00:21:58 03PleasingFungus02 07[fore] * 0.29-a0-531-ge56eaf00cf: More WIP 10(11 seconds ago, 8 files, 107+ 207-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e56eaf00cfc5 00:50:31 03PleasingFungus02 07[fore] * 0.29-a0-532-ga16d6505dc: erase 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a16d6505dce8 00:50:31 03PleasingFungus02 07[fore] * 0.29-a0-533-gdc5f936ab2: Correct comment 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dc5f936ab23d 00:52:09 <10PleasingFungus> fairly baffled by this tbh 00:52:20 <10PleasingFungus> no idea why my changes make icons vanish 00:52:49 <10PleasingFungus> i confirmed that the code in tiledgnbuf is running & seeing icons 00:53:32 <10PleasingFungus> will sleep on it 01:03:37 04Build failed for 08fore @ dc5f936a 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/2426100477 03:01:47 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.29-a0-541-gaf1fc19f1b (34) 03:46:29 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4719-g50af30713d 06:22:37 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4719-g50af30713d 08:29:10 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.29-a0-541-gaf1fc19 (34) 09:13:52 <06advil> hm, I checked webtiles because of one of these bugs, and umbra and halo look very strange 09:15:13 <06advil> oh, maybe it was just a tilesheet out of sync 12:05:03 <06advil> wtf mac terminal, your os doesn't have numlock 12:05:03 <06advil> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/981951588094586880/Screen_Shot_2022-06-02_at_12.04.38_PM.png 12:06:54 <06advil> (what this means in practice is that clear on a mac keyboard enables application mode in Terminal.app, til) 12:09:54 <06advil> I sometimes wonder if there is a way to package with iTerm2 instead 12:31:40 I found out just yesterday that using keyboards with Print Screen, Scroll Lock, and Pause Break on macOS (what the heck is that?) are actually just F13–F15 12:46:48 break was the official way to ctrl-c in dos 1.x I think 12:46:55 nobody's cared since 13:03:36 <06advil> can someone on linux using a non-obscure terminal with a numpad do "printf '\033[?1061h\033='; cat -v", hit the numpad = key, and tell me both what the output is and what your terminal is? 13:03:51 <06advil> (that code just enables "application mode") 13:07:09 <10PleasingFungus> hm, @advil , the palentonga -> meteoran player says our fix also wiped out all their Ru sacrifices..?! 13:07:16 <10PleasingFungus> something about the way we validate/cleanup innate muts..? 13:07:20 <06advil> lol 13:07:23 <06advil> also ouch 13:07:27 <06advil> maybe just doh 13:07:34 <10PleasingFungus> could always be doh 13:07:39 <10PleasingFungus> looks like this was bank error in their favor 13:07:41 <10PleasingFungus> since they kept piety 13:10:04 <06advil> ah, yeah that makes sense 13:10:06 advil, numpad = key? 13:10:18 <06advil> the "=" key on the numpad, I guess if you have one 13:10:40 I've never seen a numpad = key, either on the one in front of me or on photos I just looked up 13:10:55 <06advil> m, maybe this is a mac thing 13:11:22 oops you're right. 13:11:35 My magic keyboard is upstairs so I'll tell you in a bit if I remember 13:11:52 <06advil> well, I know what it does on mac 13:12:12 <06advil> I guess a magic keyboard plugged into linux could be different 13:12:30 is Terminal/iTerm2 an obscure terminal? 13:12:57 <06advil> no, but they are ones I have already tested myself if that's what you mean 13:13:23 Ah, I thought that's what you were asking for, lol :P 13:13:33 <06advil> it is linux info that I need 13:13:42 ah 13:25:23 <06advil> huh, my old ms natural keyboard does have an =, also parens (that don't work) 13:26:48 03advil02 07[menu-commands] * 0.29-a0-517-g4857cc2238: fix: tweaks for ncurses keycode handling 10(26 minutes ago, 4 files, 64+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4857cc22388c 13:29:23 03advil02 07[menu-commands] * 0.29-a0-517-g4f1688b199: fix: tweaks for ncurses keycode handling 10(28 minutes ago, 4 files, 64+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4f1688b199c2 13:47:12 03advil02 07[menu-commands] * 0.29-a0-517-gd462247f71: fix: tweaks for ncurses keycode handling 10(46 minutes ago, 4 files, 69+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d462247f7109 14:24:02 <09gammafunk> rats, it seems I don't have a numpad = key despite having a numpad! 14:24:11 <09gammafunk> I assume numrow = wouldn't be useful for you 14:25:00 application keypad mode wouldn't apply to that, no 14:25:16 <09gammafunk> rip 14:25:23 dec terminals didn't have keypad= either so it may simply be undefined 14:31:04 <06advil> it seems fairly uncommon, turns out the whole world doesn't have magic keyboards 14:31:27 <06advil> the code I used worked for two distinct keyboards plugged into a mac with numpad = at least 14:43:11 the whole world should have magic keyboards tbf 15:01:54 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-542-g075992c915: fix: don't wipe out Ru muts with change_species_to 10(22 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/075992c915aa 15:02:07 <09gammafunk> I did a google search for "numpad -" and I saw pictures of external numpads (of mikee fame!), so maybe they're common on those 15:02:24 <09gammafunk> sort of makes sense, if you're paying for that external numpad, you want a bunch of keys on it 15:02:52 <09gammafunk> sorry, that was a search for "numpad =" 15:07:09 <06advil> yeah, makes sense 15:07:32 <06advil> I realized at some point that the apple designers just put exactly the keys you'd need for a basic regular calculator 15:08:06 <06advil> plus enter 15:08:40 <06advil> which maybe historically was the idea, except that probably kp enter was used as =? 15:11:13 <10PleasingFungus> heh 15:11:21 <10PleasingFungus> @advil ty for the mut fix! 15:16:34 <09gammafunk> @advil wow, that Bracket-H person 15:17:04 yep, dealt with though! 15:17:12 I am still kind of laughing at "Why are there Orcs in a hexagram?!" 15:17:31 <09gammafunk> after that last message, more strongly get the feeling it was trolling 15:17:58 yeah, pretty sure it was a hamhanded attempt to provoke something that could be copypastad as dev hypocrisy or w/e 15:18:03 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-542-g075992c915 (34) 15:23:36 <08nicolae> so i'm looking at artefact.cc, as one does, and it prevents bardings from being generated with sInv or rPois, because they conflict with naga innates. but naga-specific bardings aren't a thing anymore, so palentongas can wear them, so they could be generated with rPois now 15:23:46 <08nicolae> (palentongas also sInv so i guess that one can stay) 15:24:32 <09gammafunk> seems reasonable 15:24:48 <08nicolae> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/075992c915aa0668813ea7fa4245c2af4b72dd7f/crawl-ref/source/artefact.cc#L555 18:24:46 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.29-a0-542-g075992c915 (34) 19:37:07 I ran into a tentacle segment zombie, this should be a bug, no? 19:37:12 -!- kiedtl is now known as cot 20:22:36 <10PleasingFungus> definitely 20:54:07 <09gammafunk> lol, nice 22:01:08 Unfortunately, (and speaking from experience from interacting with many people similar to this one) that person is very likely not trolling 22:01:31 But regardless, it looks handled quite well to me. 22:02:15 (That type of personality/behavior crops up a fair bit in Wikipedia stuff, especially at the support/help desk venues.) 22:50:21 <09gammafunk> They were concern trolling, aggrieved because of previous instances of "censorship". It's a tactic we've seen a couple times in the past. I didn't even see the extent of their response initially, because I saw the issue report summary via email, which cut off part of it. Then when I looked at the issue, advil had already handled the moderation, so their full comments were hidden by default 22:50:41 <09gammafunk> but when I saw the entirety of there comments, it was clear 22:51:03 <09gammafunk> *their comments 22:52:41 <09gammafunk> Definitely wasn't obvious at first, because their language was relatively tame and only became over the top when it was clear they'd not get what they wanted 23:08:49 <10PleasingFungus> agree w gamma, but also think further discussion is just serving their ends 23:08:53 <10PleasingFungus> not a super interesting case 23:14:38 Deep Dwarfs still have an entry in the ?% aptitudes table 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12704 by MainiacJoe