01:13:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-411-gf845f52a54: Make zot death messages more exciting 10(43 minutes ago, 3 files, 25+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f845f52a54b4 01:13:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-412-gfc8527a98e: Warn while resting and bezotted 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fc8527a98e64 01:13:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-413-g559d8e5bd9: Fix felid zot death message 10(33 minutes ago, 3 files, 8+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/559d8e5bd964 01:13:41 New branch created: stellar-work (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/stellar-work 01:13:41 03PleasingFungus02 07[stellar-work] * 0.29-a0-414-g1314998bc4: New species: Star 10(56 minutes ago, 15 files, 131+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1314998bc4ae 01:15:03 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-411-gf845f52: Make zot death messages more exciting 10(43 minutes ago, 3 files, 25+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f845f52a54b4 01:15:07 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-412-gfc8527a: Warn while resting and bezotted 10(27 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fc8527a98e64 01:15:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-413-g559d8e5: Fix felid zot death message 10(34 minutes ago, 3 files, 8+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/559d8e5bd964 01:21:34 New branch created: stellar-work (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/stellar-work 01:21:35 03PleasingFungus02 07[stellar-work] * 0.29-a0-414-g1314998: New species: Star 10(63 minutes ago, 15 files, 131+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1314998bc4ae 01:23:44 <10PleasingFungus> they call it not chei, but it’s slower than chei… makes u think 01:31:36 04Build failed for 08master @ 559d8e5b 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/2322999237 03:32:35 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4664-g6ac40a12b4 06:22:56 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4664-g6ac40a12b4 07:23:03 03kate-02 07* 0.29-a0-414-g5075937ec3: Fix compilation 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5075937ec3bc 07:27:30 03kate-02 07* 0.29-a0-414-g5075937: Fix compilation 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5075937ec3bc 07:32:25 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-414-g5075937ec3 (34) 08:09:23 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.29-a0-414-g5075937 (34) 09:48:16 <10PleasingFungus> oops 09:53:06 <05kate> re: stars, i'm still not super convinced that designing around speedrunning is a good approach. mayflytaur just immediately breaking the score record is a pretty big mark against it imo 09:59:44 <10PleasingFungus> it is 09:59:56 <10PleasingFungus> i don’t want to blow out the high score table again, but 10:00:07 <10PleasingFungus> ultimately, high scores aren’t what we design for 10:00:18 <10PleasingFungus> we design for people having fun while trying to win 10:00:27 <10PleasingFungus> and reception was super positive 10:00:42 <10PleasingFungus> non scorechasing players seemed to really enjoy mayflytaurs 10:01:44 <10PleasingFungus> my hope is to square the circle and achieve both 10:01:54 <05kate> i mean that's not super surprising because they had absurd apts and stats, players are pretty likely to enjoy playing with that 10:01:59 <10PleasingFungus> sure 10:02:37 <10PleasingFungus> anyway, not merging this without much more polish and playtesting 10:02:55 <10PleasingFungus> just wanted to get the important things out there 10:03:09 <10PleasingFungus> by which i mean custom skill titles 10:03:40 btw (unless I missed it) you're missing some sort of morning star vs evening star thing 10:07:32 <10PleasingFungus> as opposed to just morning star? 10:08:29 <10PleasingFungus> i figured morning star was the best pun for an m&f title, since that's a real weapon 10:09:53 well eveningstar is too no? but no Frege's puzzle allusion is complete without both 10:10:15 <10PleasingFungus> i'm nearly sure that eveningstar is a crawl original 10:10:18 <10PleasingFungus> not a real life thing 10:10:33 it is quite literally a reference to Frege's puzzle 10:10:44 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frege%27s_puzzles#The_first_puzzle 10:11:07 I guess in terms of real *weapons* yeah 10:11:34 <10PleasingFungus> i'd never heard of that! 10:11:40 <10PleasingFungus> anyway, not opposed to having an evening star title somewhere 10:11:53 <10PleasingFungus> also considered pulsar (pull-sar, tloc?) and red giant 10:12:20 <10PleasingFungus> perhaps should figure out how and if they can be balanced. maybe if we make the titles worse, people will play them less? 10:12:26 better link: https://plato.stanford.edu/archives/fall2014/entries/frege/#FrePuz 10:12:29 er 10:12:46 https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/frege/#FrePuz 10:23:48 <06advil> I'm not sure if this is in bounds for what kind of silliness is ok for titles but my immediate thought was that the M&F title could be evening vs morning based purely on a coinflip from seed (e.g. stupid implementation, use the low bit of the seed) 10:24:22 <10PleasingFungus> simply use the system clock 10:27:21 <06advil> lol 10:27:41 <06advil> I like it 10:35:02 <06advil> I guess I'm going to turn off notchei 10:36:19 <06advil> @|amethyst if you're around at some point it would be useful to know your plans for Cheibriados, right now I'm not even 100% sure that the bot came back on purpose. Also it might be good to incorporate notchei's logs from the time when it was the only one into the cszo logs? 10:38:16 I guess technically the szo logs 11:16:40 New branch created: pull/2543 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2543 11:16:40 03Zhang Kai02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2543 * 0.29-a0-415-g33b593de70: Update items.txt 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 892+ 243-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/33b593de70cd 11:53:02 thrilhelm (L27 DgAE) ASSERT(you.running.turns_passed < buggy_threshold) in 'delay.cc' at line 473 failed. (Excessive delay, 2000 turns passed, delay type -4) (Coc:2) 12:42:02 <05kate> !crashlog 12:42:04 <04Cerebot> 24374. thrilhelm, XL27 DgAE, T:181237 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/thrilhelm/crash-thrilhelm-20220514-155300.txt 12:44:14 <05kate> nice: HP: 1/1 12:44:22 <05kate> is that just a really long interlevel travel, somehow? 15:15:51 <06advil> oh interesting 15:16:12 <06advil> 2k turns is a lot for interlevel travel, it looks kind of like it got into a loop in coc 15:17:41 Oh that is interesting 15:19:00 <06advil> I think this is the very first travel crash since I added that assert 15:19:24 <06advil> they tried to use interlevel travel to go somewhere from coc:2, but never made it out of that level, as far as I can tell 15:20:38 I was watching a really interesting bug in nethack that also caused a loop in pathfinding. Ended up being pretty interesting, though I doubt it's similar to what could've happened here. (https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/1d78d3c and https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/c763e26) 15:25:10 I convinced paxed that 1d78d3c won't cover all possible oscillations and only keeping track of what you've stepped on previously will ensure that you won't loop. 15:36:24 <06advil> we've had some loops before but I don't remember anything quite like this 15:36:29 <06advil> %git 0dbc5c1aff 15:36:38 <06advil> comes to mind semi-recently 15:36:54 <06advil> oh oops, I guess that cerebov is still wired to notchei 15:37:00 07advil02 * 0.26-a0-1146-g0dbc5c1aff: Don't feel safe on hexers trapped in grates (12371, #1651) 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0dbc5c1afff6 15:37:00 %git 0dbc5c1aff 15:41:27 these are my favorite kinds of bugs 15:42:23 fun fact: the quality of a bug is directly proportional to the length of the commit message that fixes it, and inversely proportional to the size of the change that fixes the bug. 15:58:06 <06advil> possibly depends on who is writing the commit message 18:23:44 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.29-a0-414-g5075937ec3 (34) 18:40:36 Weird question, but does anyone happen to know why STDFLAG (-std=c++11) in the makefile is not part of ALL_CFLAGS? 21:01:59 <08wormsofcan> morning star > tso, evening star > yred or kiku, red giant > mahk, supernova > veh 21:02:13 <08wormsofcan> evening star could also be dith 21:03:21 <08wormsofcan> also have all star and super star title options 22:07:28 <10PleasingFungus> lol 23:35:12 <09gammafunk> shooting star for oka?