00:03:21 <floraline> i can't figure out why the new trunk executables don't work, and i'm out of time tonight
00:03:30 <floraline> i'll hopefully have time over the weekend to take a look at it
00:24:58 <floraline> i've disabled all builds on cko for the time being
00:25:13 <floraline> so 0.27 will at least stay working
01:34:39 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.28-a0-265-g048bc9fd10 (34)
01:55:51 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.28-a0-265-g048bc9fd10
02:17:03 <Discord|> <12e​bering> @nicolae there are plenty of new hell monsters for you to do horrid things with
02:25:47 <Cbrotell> Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.28-a0-265-g048bc9fd10 (34)
02:53:51 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.28-a0-265-g048bc9fd10
04:17:42 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur
05:02:55 -!- mhcerri3 is now known as mhcerri
06:09:59 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-272-g104c488357: feat: new monster, wendigo 10(84 minutes ago, 10 files, 147+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/104c48835755
06:09:59 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-273-g6522729d0b: feat: new monster, nargun 10(12 minutes ago, 5 files, 31+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6522729d0bd4
06:09:59 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-274-gbe3ff1a176: wip: coc monster table 10(15 seconds ago, 1 file, 20+ 32-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/be3ff1a1764e
06:10:01 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/2064 updated to be equal with hot-hells: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2064
06:22:55 <Lantell> Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4305-g797f4774c3
08:13:20 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur
10:11:06 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> nargun!
10:17:19 <Kelbell> Webtiles server stopped.
10:18:01 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> lots of cryptids lately
10:20:26 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> oh i haven't done much with the new hell monsters, i wasn't sure if they'd be staying
10:21:45 <Kelbell> Webtiles server started.
10:23:30 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> "seracfall" i learned a new word today
10:24:28 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/2095 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2095
10:24:28 <Cheibriados> 03robertxgray02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2095 * 0.28-a0-262-g5390923d6f: Fix Djinni spell icons on desktop always dimmed Closes #2091 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5390923d6f2e
10:26:54 <Discord|> <12e​bering> @nicolae they might get iterated on still yeah
10:30:07 <floraline> trunk on cko should be fixed
10:30:41 <floraline> i had upgraded the system to buster and left the chroot on stable, so crawl was compiling with new packages and running with old ones, specifically libncursesw5 vs 6 i think
10:32:10 <floraline> s/stable/stretch
10:49:19 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> aha good catch, I think that happened once on old cbro
11:04:30 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-266-g5cbfc9617c: refactor: abstract corrosion to a method 10(2 weeks ago, 7 files, 19+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5cbfc9617c24
11:04:30 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-267-gdbb16a754b: feat: persistent hell effects: rust dis 10(2 weeks ago, 5 files, 13+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dbb16a754b4e
11:04:30 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-268-gb146ba1654: feat: persistent hell effects: freeze cocytus solid 10(2 weeks ago, 5 files, 19+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b146ba1654e6
11:04:30 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-269-gf43089998e: feat: persistent hell effects: fill gehenna with acrid smoke 10(2 weeks ago, 5 files, 9+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f43089998e25
11:04:30 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-270-gadc034caf2: feat: persistent hell effects: rot tartarus (Lici) 10(2 weeks ago, 5 files, 18+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/adc034caf202
11:04:30 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-271-g16b58cc7a7: feat: shift timed hell effects to do more strategic damage 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 12+ 125-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/16b58cc7a737
11:04:30 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-272-ga677b8f2f4: refactor: move padded_bounds to a layout library 10(2 weeks ago, 4 files, 21+ 30-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a677b8f2f454
11:04:30 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-273-gffcfadd4be: fix: resolve a todo in zonify mapping 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 10+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ffcfadd4bef4
11:04:30 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-274-g2b0db27726: feat: separate builder_bounds and max_bounds 10(13 days ago, 4 files, 28+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2b0db2772685
11:04:30 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-275-g7cb96b18b2: feat: shrink Hell subbranches on floors 1-6 10(13 days ago, 15 files, 85+ 68-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7cb96b18b2f6
11:04:30 <Cheibriados> ... and 26 more commits
11:04:32 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/2064 updated to be equal with hot-hells: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2064
11:04:42 <Discord|> <12e​bering> sorry, force push
11:04:57 <Discord|> <12e​bering> @gammafunk hot-hells is in a state ready for an experimental I thinnk
11:10:13 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> @ebering ok I can put it up some time today
11:10:24 <Discord|> <12e​bering> ❤️ thanks!!
11:45:17 <Cheibriados> 03robertxgray02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2095 * 0.28-a0-262-gfef2940bb2: Fix Djinni spell icons on desktop always dimmed Closes #2091 10(89 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fef2940bb2f5
11:45:53 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> this time it only took me about 10 minutes to reconstruct what file to update on cdo for 0.28 trunk builds, rather than about a week like last time
11:45:56 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> progress
11:47:10 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> also, it does look like cdo never got 0.27
12:08:35 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> yeah I never heard bat from napkin about it
12:31:43 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> i was about to be like "hell yeah, experimental hells, now i can try it without screwing around with git branches" but then i remembered you can't do wizmode on online 😭
12:34:33 <Discord|> <12e​bering> well hopefully gammafunk will enable wizmode on the experimental online
12:34:37 <Discord|> <12e​bering> since that can be done
12:35:54 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> oh nice
12:36:13 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> of course i also can't test vaults that way but i can get a feel for the new monsters
12:44:26 <Discord|> <12e​bering> yeah
13:49:33 <Cbrotell> simcity (L27 OpCj) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:15)
13:49:55 <Cbrotell> simcity (L27 OpCj) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:15)
14:23:00 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> @nicolae I can make you a dgl admin if you register an account
14:23:29 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> I'm a little reticent about enabling global wizmode but have been thinking about adding a special dgl "wizards" group for case by case basis
14:24:12 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> @nicolae but yeah, register on CDI and give me your account name (I presume nicolae?) you might need to have your account registered on every server, by the way
14:24:42 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> @advil thanks for fixing the cdo trunk builds. I forget if we have that in our release instructions or not, but if so, I forgot to do it (and don't remember how)
14:24:56 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-302-g1cc9924967: vaults: make hangedman_mysterious_dungeon_monster_house 098 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 30-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1cc99249679a
14:24:56 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-303-g66781767a6: vaults: adjust non-end Dis vault monsters and cleanup 10(75 minutes ago, 1 file, 26+ 45-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/66781767a6f5
14:24:56 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-304-g0e4b379e18: vaults: Dis end vault monster set adjustments 10(68 minutes ago, 1 file, 21+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0e4b379e189e
14:24:56 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-305-g61609bfe2f: vaults: adjust Gehenna vault monsters 10(42 minutes ago, 1 file, 30+ 37-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/61609bfe2f21
14:24:56 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-306-g277ca60c81: vaults: adjust monsters in Cocytus vaults 10(27 minutes ago, 1 file, 76+ 86-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/277ca60c81f2
14:24:56 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-307-gfefa69566a: vaults: adjust Tartarus vaults for new monsters 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 44+ 50-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fefa69566aaa
14:24:56 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[hot-hells] * 0.28-a0-308-g20dc95b06f: text: add some newlines (PleasingFungus) 10(11 seconds ago, 1 file, 12+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/20dc95b06f1d
14:24:58 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/2064 updated to be equal with hot-hells: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2064
14:41:03 <Cheibriados> 03hyperactiveChipmunk02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.28-a0-266-g36ea832cf1: Don't ever consider books evil 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/36ea832cf17e
14:43:28 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[dying_flame] * 0.28-a0-305-g26d39318c5: Fix fire champion messaging 10(13 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/26d39318c55a
14:43:30 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/2069 updated to be equal with dying_flame: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2069
14:46:28 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-267-g1c0f7aac2b: Fix Dj spell icons on local tiles 10(34 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1c0f7aac2be9
14:48:09 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-266-g36ea832cf1 (34)
15:03:33 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-267-g1c0f7aac2b (34)
15:10:33 -!- ProzacElf is now known as DealsElf
15:17:31 <Discord|> <12e​bering> @PleasingFungus have you thought more about adding "approximate uses remaining" to the ability descs for ignis
15:17:36 <Discord|> <12e​bering> probably won't fit on the a screen under a cost
15:17:44 <Discord|> <12e​bering> (maybe in short form as ~n remaining)
15:19:09 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> (n left)
15:19:21 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i’m undecided
15:19:27 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> esp as costs have dropped
15:19:38 <Discord|> <12e​bering> well if you don't I'm gonna be looking at my action table and doin a spreadsheet
15:19:38 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> so the built in ui is a little better
15:19:47 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> will that help?
15:19:57 <Discord|> <12e​bering> haven't tried it with the new lower costs
15:20:01 <Discord|> <12e​bering> maybe its not such a deal anymore
15:20:07 <Discord|> <12e​bering> that's a plan for tomorrow
15:20:14 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> to be clear, you know costs vary by up to 50%
15:21:10 <Discord|> <12e​bering> yes, which is why I was suggesting in the desc where a range could be displayed and all the caveats exposited
15:21:26 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> so if you see you’re at 4* and have used an 8-12 cost ability 3 times
15:21:32 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> what have you learned?
15:21:37 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> ??**
15:21:38 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> ****[1/1]: 100-119 piety
15:21:50 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> hrm
15:21:55 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i guess 4 times?
15:22:03 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> math is hard
15:22:16 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> no, 3 works
15:24:43 <Discord|> <12e​bering> yeah, so if I use it 3 times I know that my piety is at least 114, and I can then put that number into my spreadsheet to get a lower bound on the range of uses I have left
15:24:43 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> you know at that point that you’re somewhere between 112 and 119 piety
15:24:43 <Discord|> <12e​bering> 150-36 is 114?
15:24:43 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> oops
15:24:43 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> look i’m not the mathematician here
15:24:43 <Discord|> <12e​bering> indeed 😉
15:24:43 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> so that gets you slightly more precision than the *s
15:24:43 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> but not hugely
15:25:25 <Discord|> <12e​bering> at the higher costs I was definitely looking at my action table and making decisions based on "high 3 *" vs "low 3 *"
15:25:27 <Discord|> <12e​bering> ??***
15:25:28 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> ***[1/1]: 75-99 piety
15:25:35 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> could drop costs a little more & add a small fuzz penalty when crossing * barriers to compensate
15:25:43 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i wonder how exactly that’d work
15:25:54 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> maybe it wouldn’t
15:26:34 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> could also try fuzzing costs more aggressively, but not sure how much you could fairly do there
15:27:37 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> if the counter in thr a screen is based on true piety, not stars, you want to check it again after every use, which is also sucky
15:28:14 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> not sure how different this is from other gods really
15:28:22 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> piety decay isn’t very fast
15:29:01 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> esp at star boundaries, a redcarpet style player could be confident about more than stars tell you
15:29:07 <Discord|> <12e​bering> I'll bother you again after I give it another test with the lower costs
15:29:18 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> a rug salesman
15:29:37 <Discord|> <12e​bering> well, piety gain and decay are randomized and there's piety hysteresis at the * boundaries to catch that traveling salesman
15:30:42 <Discord|> <12e​bering> so yes, a redcarpeter could give you a more accurate estimate of the true piety but not by much. compared to igni with no gain or decay and piety only changing in one direction so the hysteresis mechanic doesn't kick in
15:37:17 <perryprog> redcarpeter?
15:37:34 <Discord|> <12e​bering> ??red carpet
15:37:35 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> I don't have a page labeled red_carpet in my learndb.
15:37:37 <Discord|> <12e​bering> rip
15:37:38 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> rip
15:37:39 <Discord|> <12e​bering> ?/red carpet
15:37:41 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> No matches.
15:37:44 <Discord|> <12e​bering> wow
15:37:47 <Discord|> <12e​bering> ??optimal
15:37:47 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> optimal[1/9]: what do you even mean, turn optimal? time optimal? resource optimal? safety optimal? sanity optimal? opportunity costs easily make this term mean nothing.
15:37:54 <Discord|> <12e​bering> ??optimal[trap
15:37:55 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> I don't have a page labeled optimal[trap in my learndb.
15:38:52 <Discord|> <12e​bering> ??optimal[2
15:38:53 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> optimal[2/9]: http://i.imgur.com/W21bVe8.jpg
15:38:56 <Discord|> <12e​bering> ??optimal[3
15:38:57 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> optimal[3/9]: http://i.imgur.com/q6HaDoE.png
15:39:26 <Discord|> <12e​bering> manually (or with lua) using the travel exclusion system to minimize the number of tiles stepped on
15:39:36 <Discord|> <12e​bering> in the old trap system this could be used to avoid traps
15:39:49 <Discord|> <12e​bering> this is optimal
15:39:52 <Discord|> <12e​bering> this is not good gameplay
15:40:57 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> so you say!
15:59:34 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> it would be useful to separate out wizmode/rebuild from "full admin" as we add more admin features
16:00:37 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> yeah
16:01:39 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> I will probably do something somewhat hacky based on extending dgl db to get that functionality but maybe I can add it as a proper commit
16:16:27 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> !crashlog simcity
16:16:29 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> 16. simcity, XL27 OpCj, T:753183 (milestone): https://cbro.berotato.org/morgue/simcity/crash-simcity-20210827-174954.txt
16:37:19 -!- cyanbird is now known as tiobot
17:15:32 <perryprog> PleasingFungus, I just realized that normally the summon death message is that the thing goes poof
17:15:59 <perryprog> E.g., "The orc's corpse disappears in a puff of smoke!"
17:17:30 <perryprog> I'll add that in. It seems to make sense. Also /pretty/ sure that comment is correct in that mons.is_summoned should work fine, since I can't imagine any situation a summoned dancing weapon to actually "create" an item.
17:20:02 <perryprog> Hm, and that's in addition to a puff of purple smoke stuff.
17:21:09 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> there's a function that does that
17:21:18 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i believe that it should already happen elsewhere
17:21:24 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> the code here just handles what happens to the item
17:22:57 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> since normally, when a monster dies, it drops its items, but if that item was summoned we want the item to poof instead, and otherwise if we're under Gozag then we want the item to vanish entirely instead (with a message about being 'turned to gold', but really the gold comes from the dancing weapon monster)
17:22:58 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> (maybe? not sure about that very last clause)
17:27:14 <perryprog> Yea, but summoned dancing weapons should also have the cloud effect, while also dropping no item or gold (cloud effect is what's missing)
17:29:31 <perryprog> Looks like it might be another bug that's causing that to happen somewhere around
17:29:31 <perryprog> !source mon-death.cc:2914
17:29:31 <perryprog> BUT I have to go eat pizza so I will push that fix later
17:29:32 <Sequell> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-death.cc#L2914
17:29:54 <perryprog> !sourec mon-death.cc:2694
17:29:59 <perryprog> !source mon-death.cc:2694
17:29:59 <Sequell> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-death.cc#L2694
17:30:00 <perryprog> I'm cursed
17:35:15 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> rip
17:50:41 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.28-a0-268-g3f656e82c2: Reinforce transparent stone tiles 10(31 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3f656e82c281
18:07:25 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-268-g3f656e82c2 (34)
18:23:55 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.28-a0-268-g3f656e82c2 (34)
18:27:59 <floraline> i'm seeing some new errors come up preventing trunk from starting, anyone know if this is on my end?
18:28:02 <floraline> 2021-08-27 22:27:29,707 INFO: #700   P1051  ERR: /crawl-master/crawl-git-3f656e82c2/data/dat/des/branches/dis.des:227: unfinished string near ''human corpse / human skeleton,
18:28:05 <floraline> 2021-08-27 22:27:29,708 INFO: #700   P1051  ERR: '
18:30:52 <gammafunk> floraline: oh, interesting
18:30:57 <gammafunk> let me check
18:32:44 <gammafunk> hrm, that line number doesn't seem to match
18:34:08 <gammafunk> I think I see which line it's referring to, but that's actually line 196
18:34:35 <gammafunk> and the line in question seems fine
18:34:49 <gammafunk> it seems to be thinking that the line continuation isn't right
18:35:19 <gammafunk> compiling trunk just to verify
18:36:31 <Cheibriados> 03Perry Fraser02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2092 * 0.28-a0-261-ge5a9f5aba6: Make summon death effect happen for non-corpse monsters and simplify dancing weapon corpse logic 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e5a9f5aba6dc
18:37:21 <perryprog> Possibly bold change. (Read: likely has unintended consequences in what it affects.)
18:38:53 <perryprog> But it doesn't really make sense to me that if leaves_corpse is false the thing won't make the "poof" effect that you get when killing normal summons
18:40:24 <perryprog> Is it customary to squash PRs or should I leave as-is?
18:40:49 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> generally better to only squash right before merge
18:40:53 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> or after a rebase
18:41:07 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> just to simplify discussion
18:42:35 <floraline> i'm seeing some levcomp warnings in my build that i don't recognize, i may still be missing the right packages
18:42:57 <perryprog> I mean you could just squash and merge if it's relevant for the PR, right?
18:43:24 <floraline> https://pastebin.com/beebmtHq
18:43:37 <floraline> are these normal warnings i should expect to see in my build?
18:43:57 <perryprog> Oh there was a ticket for that.
18:44:13 <perryprog> floraline: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/2031
18:45:11 <floraline> thanks, i do see at least one of them in that issue which suggests it is benign
18:46:18 <floraline> i'm just seeing some notes in INSTALL.md which suggests levcomp is responsible for des files which are where i'm having the issue
18:56:11 <floraline> i recompiled trunk and i seem to be able to start it again... i think i changed from flex-old to flex
18:59:00 <floraline> i'll have to wait and see if it's still good when its kicked off by the cron job
18:59:05 <floraline> someone check something in
19:02:59 <floraline> oh nevermind i forgot to put the script back to normal, it's rebuilding the same commit
19:09:20 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> @ebering so i'm in hot-hells in gehenna and for some reason sun demons and red devils still spawn, even though they're not in the spawn tables, where are they coming from?
19:10:11 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> oh, nvm
19:10:14 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> balrug buddies
19:12:50 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> i suppose red devils are pert much your archetypical hell monster flavorwise, shame they're chaff at those levels
19:18:32 <floraline> i wonder if i should just bite the bullet and upgrade again to bullseye while i'm troubleshooting anyway
19:45:31 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> apparently if you place the entrance to a hell inside of a hell instead of the vestibule things don't immediately break
22:46:59 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> re: making hellvaults: also should i stick exclusively to the monster lists established in mon-pick.whatever or is it okay to give 'em the occasional executioner, cacodemon, etc.
23:23:32 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> I don’t think that all of those lex warnings are expected, especially the -Wundef ones