03:30:51 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4217-g7c68dc2372
06:24:28 <Lantell> Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4217-g7c68dc2372
08:55:12 -!- Guest8585 is now known as twist
09:08:52 <Nivim> Point of curiosity; do we have a static terrain feature that blocks LOS with just a single tile but not movement? I remember some *band had a 'curtain' feature that did that, but guess here it would be a darker cloud.
09:37:49 <Mandevil> "Your spectral +4 spectral giant spiked club hits the wyvern!!"
09:37:56 <Mandevil> This wording is bit redundant.
09:41:48 <Discord|> <12e​bering> There is not currently a feature or cloud which is opaque but movement passable
09:52:25 <Discord|> <12Z​ureaL> Suggestion:  Put shop keepers in each of the random shops in game and give them the names of developers current and past and maybe even server operators current and past
09:58:47 <Nivim> (Shops already have random-genned names, so this would get implemented as naming shops after in-game after developers, but it wouldn't get implemented at all due how vaults are already often named internally with their maker anyway for those devs still at it, and for those devs past you wouldn't have permission to throw their username around frivolously.)
09:58:51 <Pinkbeast> Restoring a NetHack-ism to Crawl is a novel proposal.
09:59:33 <Nivim> s/shops after/shops/
10:00:30 <Cheibriados> Naga ritualist's OTR doesn't respect use_animations rc option. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12621 by Yermak
12:35:54 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.28-a0-80-g9707f7362f: fix: mark ENCH_SHORT_LIVED in monster descriptions 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9707f7362f61
12:47:45 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.28-a0-80-g9707f7362f (34)
13:07:14 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.28-a0-80-g9707f73 (34)
14:38:16 <G-Flex> hrm, desolation of salt warning messages are a bit awkwardly phrased
14:38:18 <G-Flex> "_You hear the faint whistling of a wind nearby."
14:38:19 <G-Flex> "a wind"
14:45:07 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> seems ok to me, but i’m biased :p
14:45:53 <G-Flex> as a native speaker of American English it sounds very off to me, but I don't know what speakers of other dialects (or even my own at large) would think
14:50:38 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> imo "the wind" doesn't really feel right there, since there's no ambient wind in the dungeon
14:51:40 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> you can certainly have ‘a wind’ in some cases
14:51:44 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> eg a lonesome wind
14:51:53 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> blowin down the prairie
14:53:19 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> an eerie wind blows…
14:53:23 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> faintly…
15:12:11 <G-Flex> yeah, I can't say why it sounds awkward to me
15:12:32 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> Ashenzari warns you: a wind.
15:12:39 <G-Flex> A bomb.
15:13:31 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> somebody set us up the wind
15:13:48 <geekosaur> it sounds odd to me as well. I'd leave out the article, or possibly use "the" instead of "a"
15:18:19 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> could certainly remove the article
15:19:02 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> "You hear a faint whistling wind nearby." might be less awkward if there's adjectives in between the "a" and the "wind"
15:20:49 <geekosaur> yes
15:29:07 <G-Flex> somehow it sounds less awkward that way, which makes no linguistic sense to me
15:30:20 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> we're used to hearing "the wind" because we're talking about the ambient general state of Wind, whereas "a wind" is mostly used to describe specific instances of wind conceptualized as a single thing: a lonesome wind, a mighty wind, a faint wind, etc., so "a wind" without an intervening specification sounds weird  imo
15:30:33 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> Change it to "you hear the rusting of some salt nearby"
15:30:55 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> then people will just think it's a link to <internet community where people complain about dcss a lot>!
15:31:17 <G-Flex> a synonym like "breeze" may also work better
15:39:07 <Discord|> <03w​heals> you hear the shaking of a giant salt cellar
16:27:06 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> difficult to choose just one
16:53:27 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> currently attempting to imagine an internet community that discusses dcss but doesn’t complain about it
16:53:32 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> hard to picture
16:54:03 <Pinkbeast> s/dcss/a videogame/;
16:54:07 <geekosaur> s/dcss/anything/
16:55:01 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i mean, complaining about things is half the fun
17:33:49 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> that's why there are more players this tournament
17:34:01 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> they ran out of things to complain about and are looking for new material
17:34:13 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> !tstats 4 t0.26
17:35:42 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> Stats after 4 days (t0.26): 1255 players, 431 runers, 237 winners, 496 wins, 13866 games, winrate 3.58%, total player time 296d+15:45:38.
17:35:45 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> !tstats 4
17:35:54 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> Stats after 4 days (t): 1377 players, 381 runers, 221 winners, 463 wins, 17863 games, winrate 2.59%, total player time 292d+15:04:37.
17:50:14 <Discord|> <12Z​ureaL> Oh, you just had to one-up me on the stats command, didn't you?  😛
17:51:39 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> win count is catching up
17:51:53 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> there's been more positivity around 0.27 than some releases, I've noticed
17:52:04 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> still plenty of complaining ofc
17:52:23 <Discord|> <12Z​ureaL> I still can't win a game, does that count as a complaint?
18:10:41 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> all we needed to do was make the game harder!
18:10:44 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> or something…
18:11:03 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> tbh i’ve noticed extra positivity too; no idea why?
18:15:08 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> Well if no one else is going to say it, I'll say it: it's because we removed halflings
18:15:40 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> players demand a full and complete purge of all Tolkien
18:24:38 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.28-a0-80-g9707f7362f (34)
19:11:49 <gammafunk> !nick tdt
19:11:50 <Sequell> Mapping tdt => (t0.27) devmonk gammafunk pleasingfungus wormsofcant wheals
19:11:53 <gammafunk> !nick tdt semitonal
19:11:54 <Sequell> Mapping tdt => (t0.27) devmonk gammafunk pleasingfungus wormsofcant wheals semitonal
21:01:37 <Discord|> <05k​ate> good trivia that i discovered while cleaning up trap code: apparently pacified monsters can leave the level via teleport traps, and will specifically pathfind to them if they're closer than the nearest staircase
21:17:54 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> very good
21:18:02 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i think i might have actually known that at some point
21:18:04 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> pacified code is powerful
21:18:12 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> monster ai in general, really
21:45:23 <Cheibriados> Nemelex: missing "Okay, then" after you refuse to replace your current stack. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12622 by Yermak
22:53:35 -!- bnewey_ is now known as bnewey
23:03:16 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> @ebering is there an easy way to convert your solarized values into color hex codes?
23:20:56 <Henzell> Torinski (L13 OpEE) ASSERT(you.running.turns_passed < buggy_threshold) in 'delay.cc' at line 470 failed. (Excessive delay, 500 turns passed, delay type 9999499) (D:12)
23:22:56 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> tripwire!
23:30:48 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> ...9999499?
23:30:58 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> !crashlog Torinski
23:30:59 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> 1. Torinski, XL13 OpEE, T:20560 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Torinski/crash-Torinski-20210804-032055.txt