00:00:43 <10PleasingFungus> nice bug 00:05:30 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1378-gdefffd1ff6 (34) 01:41:37 <12ebering> @PleasingFungus what needs to be done on the reading_rainbow branch to merge? just rebase to master and the tweaks in the PR commentary or did you do other things. I'm antsy to get it merged but also recognize that your available time is now 0 01:41:44 <12ebering> (0.0 aut) 01:41:53 <12ebering> so offering a helping hand 01:56:48 <11nikheizen> When is feature freeze? Is it known? 01:57:00 <12ebering> July 16 or 23 02:08:53 <11nikheizen> Thanks! 02:10:07 <10PleasingFungus> book descriptions, alphashops, and other vaults. i have a local commit that’s about 2/3rds of the way through book descriptions 02:10:46 <10PleasingFungus> vaguely hopeful i can somehow sneak in time to push that at least to the branch in the next day or two 02:10:54 <10PleasingFungus> i’m always hopeful 02:12:45 <12ebering> It’s good to be hopeful 02:15:12 <10PleasingFungus> if you want to slap up a commit that updates alphashops or other vaults, that’d be wonderful 02:15:29 <10PleasingFungus> by other vaults i mean vaults that award elemental themed books or similar 02:15:44 <10PleasingFungus> and also arenasprint (?) which has a fixed bookshop 02:37:57 <12ebering> 👍 can do 02:40:48 <10PleasingFungus> i putzed with the relevant sprint earlier on that branch but suspect the bookshop is abit lighter than intended rn 02:54:04 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1378-gdefffd1ff6 (34) 03:52:26 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4217-g7c68dc2372 09:41:41 <09gammafunk> are there a lot of vaults with book listing that need updating? 09:41:46 <09gammafunk> I would imagine there would be 09:42:54 <09gammafunk> oh you already talked about that 10:11:43 <09hellmonk> todays teens will go in vault for broad axe but won't go in vault for book 10:11:46 <09hellmonk> Sad 10:23:02 <10PleasingFungus> mom can you give me money? to buy book? 12:38:14 shummie (L21 PaGl) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4686: Invalid item: (quantity: 0) gold piece (Elf:3) 13:09:54 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-1379-ge6a161a: refactor: consolidate some reading code 10(3 hours ago, 3 files, 104+ 147-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e6a161afd285 13:09:54 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-1380-gf508b8f: feat: range checks for various scrolls 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 94+ 23-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f508b8f85182 13:26:04 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1380-gf508b8f851 (34) 13:28:54 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1378-gdefffd1 (34) 14:46:56 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-1381-g81fdcbf: fix: update quiver on item adjustment 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 31+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/81fdcbfb2352 15:17:09 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur 15:46:33 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1381-g81fdcbfb23 (34) 16:11:13 <10PleasingFungus> !crashlog shummie 16:11:14 <04Cerebot> 34. shummie, XL21 PaGl, T:92056 (milestone): https://crawl.kelbi.org/crawl/morgue/shummie/crash-shummie-20210629-163748.txt 16:12:18 <10PleasingFungus> weird and faintly ominou 16:12:36 those happen from time to time 16:14:50 ??impossible 16:14:50 devteam[5/27]: sadly that bug is literally impossible to fix by which i mean i tried like once and then gave up 16:15:29 though I might have tried more than once 16:16:36 looks like it goes back to about 2015? It's an error that gets fixed up I believe, so we don't tend to get reports about it (surprised that I can't find a mantis for it) 16:22:39 c++ question: if I have something like `vector>` I can't seem to polymorphically use that in place of `vector>`. (I tried it and get candidate function not viable errors on vector stuff, so I think this is about vector / stdlib containers). Is there any convenient way to do this, does anyone know? 16:34:45 advil, allowing that would be unsound because you could push something to the vector that isn't a SubClass 16:35:15 one option is to add a type parameter to the function that needs to accept either kind of vector 16:35:22 oh, I see 16:36:18 I don't know whether there is something to do covariant type parameters in C++ 16:38:30 I'll look into that, though this probably means I'm making things too complicated and should simplify elsewhere 16:38:49 thanks 17:26:52 oh man, I've just got to say, Octopode Air/Transmuter rocking storm form, wereform and Maxwells with an acrobat amulet is probably the best combo not wearing armour I've ever seen, and maybe the best overall. That's a long ways from my usual stance about AC. The synergies are amazing. Blinkbolt in the mix used well is freaking amazing with those other tools. 17:27:27 You can blink in on a hard target, maxwell it, then the acrobat ammy works while using "." to wait, and everything else just falls down dead to UC melee. 17:28:49 the only caveat I see so far - it's tedious to end form/recast storm form over and over. 17:29:29 sorry *wereblood, not wereform 17:30:20 and every skill you train compliments each other, fighting/uc/dodging/spellcasting/air/transmutations... nothing is wasted 17:31:19 torment and mutations are well countered by blinkbolt and the extreme killing speed. I chewed it over and over and finally just opted to forgoe necromut - on a caster build. It works. 17:34:01 I'm still hesitant to declare it overpowered, because I suppose you could still go splat with a couple unlucky rolls and torment, especially compared to axe wielding gargoyles, etc. but, it's very fluid gameplay, fast-paced and exciting. 17:34:46 please, please, please do away with transmutations by spell expiring. that would be so nice. TIA 17:38:29 Oh and one last bit of feedback, having tested Maxwell's in a real game so far, I feel that the suspense while waiting for it to go off (watching to see what manages to hit you and having a decision to either cut losses in time and run, or hold out) is successfully suspensful in a way that A0 wasn't. I think it's a good spell. It's not really overpowered either since a lot of other things like melee attacks from extreme 17:38:29 builds can one-two shot a lot of stuff also. 17:39:06 Mine is going off in three turns, which is probably on the fast side. It seems reasonable. 17:48:53 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/2006 18:11:10 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-1382-ga7dfd5e: feat: options for controlling spell/ability quivering 10(14 minutes ago, 7 files, 223+ 65-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a7dfd5ec23cb 18:23:29 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.27-a0-1381-g81fdcbfb23 (34) 18:47:21 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-1383-gbd6db1e: Adjust spacing in spellbook descriptions 10(85 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bd6db1e6d948 18:49:01 <05kate> thanks to the new longest spell name breaking descriptions, i also discovered a fun special-case that LCS gets manually abbreviated to just "Crystal Spear" on monsters, had never noticed that before 18:49:38 <05kate> so in the unlikely event that M0 becomes a monster spell that would also need special handling there 18:54:29 (Are pghosts supposed to get Portal Projectile if they can't ever do anything with it?) 18:54:57 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1382-ga7dfd5ec23 (34) 19:01:15 Nivimer: probably that should go to a blank slot 19:05:21 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1383-gbd6db1e6d9 (34) 19:06:50 <10PleasingFungus> that’s newish 19:07:11 <10PleasingFungus> i added it when i added monster spell damage dice 19:28:54 03PleasingFungus02 07[reading_rainbow] * 0.27-a0-1357-g1afc00e: Adjust randbook sizes 10(13 days ago, 4 files, 11+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1afc00e653d8 19:28:54 03PleasingFungus02 07[reading_rainbow] * 0.27-a0-1358-g07210f9: Increase book generation rates 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/07210f92c58c 19:28:54 03PleasingFungus02 07[reading_rainbow] * 0.27-a0-1359-gf09daf7: Split fixed books into smaller sizes 10(13 days ago, 10 files, 328+ 120-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f09daf72a70f 19:28:54 03PleasingFungus02 07[reading_rainbow] * 0.27-a0-1360-g9cd62a3: Fix ozo's name 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9cd62a3514aa 19:28:54 03PleasingFungus02 07[reading_rainbow] * 0.27-a0-1361-gb6c90f8: Adjust book costs 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 7+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b6c90f801b44 19:28:54 03PleasingFungus02 07[reading_rainbow] * 0.27-a0-1362-g589cb78: Boost book gen weight further 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/589cb78d0e01 19:28:54 03PleasingFungus02 07[reading_rainbow] * 0.27-a0-1363-gcd011e0: PR fixes/tweaks 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 12+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cd011e039d4a 19:28:54 03PleasingFungus02 07[reading_rainbow] * 0.27-a0-1364-g173e801: WIP 10(2 days ago, 4 files, 107+ 35-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/173e80114463 19:28:54 03PleasingFungus02 07[reading_rainbow] * 0.27-a0-1365-gf48f517: Book descriptions & name fixes 10(26 seconds ago, 4 files, 153+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f48f5170cea2 19:29:56 <10PleasingFungus> @ebering ok, i've pushed up all the stuff i was working on, so vaults & incorporation of maxwell's long spell name are the last things to do 19:48:29 04Build failed for 08reading_rainbow @ f48f5170 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/984476079 20:16:23 <10PleasingFungus> linters……. 20:16:45 checkwhite 21:07:06 ok I got something about the new Maxwell spell, I don't know if this is intended or not, but I cast it and got the Charge flag... waited, then silence went off, and the charge flag didn't go away so I kept waiting for it to see what would happen - it failed to work. Seems a little odd, I mean the spell was cast out of silence. Just an FYI anyhow. 22:14:51 svendre I can't replicate that, was there anything else in the scenario that seems relevant? 22:15:17 what happened to the charge status, did it just stay? 22:24:03 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-1384-g1422d76: feat: autofight for wait spells 10(4 minutes ago, 4 files, 38+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1422d76b99f5 22:25:53 <06advil> that commit will benefit from a shorter form of Maxwell's name if that's what this means, it's too big for the quiver 22:26:18 <10PleasingFungus> oh 22:26:28 <10PleasingFungus> i just meant putting it in the new books 22:26:36 <08nicolae> it only has a longer name because i pointed out that just "Maxwell's Coupling" would lead to jokes, but maybe you can just flavor maxwell as a perv 22:26:45 <10PleasingFungus> possibly the name should be shorter regardless 22:26:58 <10PleasingFungus> does it really have to be maxwell’s? 22:27:09 <10PleasingFungus> we have so many other max things already 22:27:17 <08nicolae> Maxwell's Hearty Zap 22:27:19 <06advil> I don't mind just showing it in short form in the quiver fwiw 22:28:01 <08nicolae> Maxwell's Short Circuit 22:28:32 <08nicolae> Maxwell's Painful Discharge wait no 22:29:00 <06advil> there's one or two other quiver descriptions that get a bit hacked, like "sling bullets" => "bullets" 22:29:57 <06advil> probably should do something for whatever the other long spell name is that someone mentioned 22:29:57 <08nicolae> LCS i thought 22:30:06 <06advil> yeah, actually LCS just fits 22:30:46 <08nicolae> Maxwell's Zot 22:31:49 <06advil> it's worse because I changed the verb to Continue: when it has been started, but even without that it still looks like Cast: Maxwell's Capacitive Coupling (1 at 80 cols 22:32:42 <06advil> oh, also, I do think this UI would benefit from showing +s like searing ray, I realize the implementation isn't really geared for that in the same way 22:40:26 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1384-g1422d76b99 (34) 23:01:27 <09hellmonk> cast: absolute maxwell