01:34:33 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1359-ga2a4dfd6fd (34)
01:55:31 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1359-ga2a4dfd6fd
02:49:46 <Cheibriados> 03robertxgray02 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-1360-g4cf9878: Allow zoom in via ctrl-'+' The key combination ctrl-'=' doesn't work in some European keyboards like Spanish or German. 10(10 weeks ago, 2 files, 6+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4cf9878b8b85
02:53:45 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1359-ga2a4dfd6fd
02:54:13 <Cbrotell> Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1359-ga2a4dfd6fd (34)
02:59:40 <Cheibriados> 03Nikolai Lavsky02 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-1361-g234f4a1: Fix Dj's hair on the species selection menu 10(7 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/234f4a1dcd8e
03:04:04 <Cheibriados> 03Goratrix02 {GitHub} 07* 0.27-a0-1362-ge7c6b52: Add Archmagi as a randart property 10(9 seconds ago, 7 files, 27+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e7c6b5271d3d
03:06:53 <Cheibriados> 03Alexei-Barnes02 {GitHub} 07* 0.27-a0-1363-ge0d888d: Corrects the description of Tin of Tremorstones 10(10 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e0d888d9677e
03:30:11 <Cheibriados> 03Skrybe02 {GitHub} 07* 0.27-a0-1364-g9667eb7: Update special_room_magic_class (#1961) 10(12 seconds ago, 1 file, 14+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9667eb783e23
03:31:21 <Cheibriados> 03dilly02 {GitHub} 07* 0.27-a0-1365-ge71e8f7: Add Wr and AM for Ba recommends (#1994) 10(11 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e71e8f7681a2
03:35:12 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> ebering gone wild
03:59:57 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1364-g9667eb783e (34)
04:10:16 <Lantell> freidrichen (L18 DjVM) ERROR in 'spl-book.cc' at line 144: ASSERT failed: book of 47 out of range 0 (0) .. (int)ARRAYSZ(spellbook_templates) (43) (Spider:4)
04:11:15 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> !crashlog freidrichen
04:11:17 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> 3. freidrichen, XL18 DjVM, T:42293 (milestone): https://underhound.eu/crawl/morgue/freidrichen/crash-freidrichen-20210628-081014.txt
04:11:28 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> old
04:11:47 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> should upgrade imo
04:13:46 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4217-g7c68dc2372
04:24:16 <Kelbell> Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.03-577-g5fe2148c7f
04:33:40 <Lantell> martbhell (L18 MiBe) ERROR in 'spl-book.cc' at line 144: ASSERT failed: book of 47 out of range 0 (0) .. (int)ARRAYSZ(spellbook_templates) (43) (Spider:3)
04:33:48 <Lantell> martbhell (L18 MiBe) ERROR in 'spl-book.cc' at line 144: ASSERT failed: book of 47 out of range 0 (0) .. (int)ARRAYSZ(spellbook_templates) (43) (Spider:3)
04:34:29 <Lantell> martbhell (L18 MiBe) ERROR in 'spl-book.cc' at line 144: ASSERT failed: book of 47 out of range 0 (0) .. (int)ARRAYSZ(spellbook_templates) (43) (Spider:3)
04:35:26 <gammafunk> !crashlog martbhell
04:35:27 <Sequell> 3. martbhell, XL18 MiBe, T:27084 (milestone): https://underhound.eu/crawl/morgue/martbhell/crash-martbhell-20210628-083428.txt
04:44:10 <Lantell> martbhell (L18 MiBe) ERROR in 'spl-book.cc' at line 144: ASSERT failed: book of 47 out of range 0 (0) .. (int)ARRAYSZ(spellbook_templates) (43) (Spider:3)
04:49:23 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> gammafunk: someone needs to trigger cue rebuild
04:49:31 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> there’s a fix for that on master
05:08:20 <gammafunk> @PleasingFungus The rebuild url is currently broken for cue but I asked TZer0 for a rebuild (and about the rebuild url)
05:10:37 <gammafunk> TZer0 is doing a trunk rebuild now
05:32:50 <Lantell> AarnesTheHuman (L17 MiBe) ERROR in 'spl-book.cc' at line 144: ASSERT failed: book of 47 out of range 0 (0) .. (int)ARRAYSZ(spellbook_templates) (43) (D:11)
05:32:58 <Lantell> AarnesTheHuman (L17 MiBe) ERROR in 'spl-book.cc' at line 144: ASSERT failed: book of 47 out of range 0 (0) .. (int)ARRAYSZ(spellbook_templates) (43) (D:11)
05:33:06 <Lantell> AarnesTheHuman (L17 MiBe) ERROR in 'spl-book.cc' at line 144: ASSERT failed: book of 47 out of range 0 (0) .. (int)ARRAYSZ(spellbook_templates) (43) (D:11)
05:33:19 <Lantell> AarnesTheHuman (L17 MiBe) ERROR in 'spl-book.cc' at line 144: ASSERT failed: book of 47 out of range 0 (0) .. (int)ARRAYSZ(spellbook_templates) (43) (D:11)
05:33:39 <Lantell> AarnesTheHuman (L17 MiBe) ERROR in 'spl-book.cc' at line 144: ASSERT failed: book of 47 out of range 0 (0) .. (int)ARRAYSZ(spellbook_templates) (43) (D:11)
05:34:12 <Lantell> AarnesTheHuman (L17 MiBe) ERROR in 'spl-book.cc' at line 144: ASSERT failed: book of 47 out of range 0 (0) .. (int)ARRAYSZ(spellbook_templates) (43) (D:11)
05:34:22 <Lantell> AarnesTheHuman (L17 MiBe) ERROR in 'spl-book.cc' at line 144: ASSERT failed: book of 47 out of range 0 (0) .. (int)ARRAYSZ(spellbook_templates) (43) (D:11)
05:34:29 <Lantell> AarnesTheHuman (L17 MiBe) ERROR in 'spl-book.cc' at line 144: ASSERT failed: book of 47 out of range 0 (0) .. (int)ARRAYSZ(spellbook_templates) (43) (D:11)
05:34:31 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.27-a0-1365-ge71e8f7681 (34)
05:35:13 <Lantell> AarnesTheHuman (L17 MiBe) ERROR in 'spl-book.cc' at line 144: ASSERT failed: book of 47 out of range 0 (0) .. (int)ARRAYSZ(spellbook_templates) (43) (D:11)
06:03:36 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1365-ge71e8f7681 (34)
07:20:00 <ebering> hello friends it\s me could I get the good bits thanks
07:20:36 <Discord|> <12e​bering> That’s the real deal, the good bits please when someone has a moment
08:28:31 <gammafunk> in theory I know how to do that
09:37:20 <svendre> I may have found a storm form bug
09:39:11 <svendre> I'm not entirely sure about replicating it, but it's happening in my current game. I'm in snakes branch right now. Basically my AC/EV is going to 20/38 when casting storm form. At some point AC is shifting to 18/38 and remaining there, even if the spell is extended. Waiting until it ends and re-casting causes it to go back up to 20/38. I haven't confirmed, but I suspect it may be related to constriction.
09:43:49 <svendre> just got constricted by an anaconda.. that didn't do it - it was something else
09:47:55 <Discord|> <12e​bering> When reporting a (possible bug) please include a char dump or if possible a save backup
09:48:13 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Without that it’s very hard for us to try to replicate things
09:57:56 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> !dumpplease
09:57:56 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> Press # in-game to do a character dump. If online, then say &dump [your crawl nickname] in chat. If offline, then follow the displayed link to find your dump and post or pastebin it in chat. This will let people look at your character so they can answer your question.
09:58:03 <Pinkbeast> FWIW from the ttyrec it seems to happen when recasting to extend the duration
09:58:08 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> ooh
09:58:47 <Discord|> <12e​bering> My bet: plus int or archmagi gear is melded
09:59:01 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Defenses are power scaling
09:59:12 <Pinkbeast> Staff of air
09:59:24 <Discord|> <12e​bering> There ya go
09:59:34 <Pinkbeast> Well, there svendre goes, anyway
09:59:37 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Meld your enhancer = no more enhancing
10:08:31 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> an unfortunate side effect of the way form spells function (this can also happen with ice form or statue form ac fwiw)
11:15:09 <Cheibriados> 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-1366-gd924e93: Fix Archmagi and +MP randarts never generating 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d924e931ac42
11:15:09 <Cheibriados> 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-1367-gc7843cd: Fix spacing 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 40+ 40-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c7843cd938be
11:15:09 <Cheibriados> 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-1368-g229a95b: Make Archmagi affect randart pricing 10(51 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/229a95b9f4f1
11:20:27 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1368-g229a95b9f4 (34)
13:28:59 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1368-g229a95b (34)
14:12:04 <Cheibriados> 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-1369-g1ea4197: Remove obsolete code for Pakellas' Device Surge 10(2 hours ago, 10 files, 22+ 225-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1ea419760f30
14:47:07 <Cheibriados> 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-1370-g58471f6: Remove Pakellas ability tiles and descriptions 10(32 minutes ago, 5 files, 0+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/58471f690d5d
14:47:58 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> rip pakellas
14:54:21 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1369-g1ea419760f (34)
14:55:12 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> pakellas will never stop giving the gift of removal
15:22:28 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1370-g58471f690d (34)
15:26:19 <svendre> Sorry I had to go afk earlier, here's the dump:
15:26:19 <svendre> http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/svendre/svendre.txthttp://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/svendre/svendre.txt
15:26:49 <svendre> http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/svendre/svendre.txt
15:27:48 <svendre> storm form on an octopode based mainly on an air build is pretty fun by the way
15:28:18 <Pinkbeast> svendre: IDK if you saw it was diagnosed
15:29:22 <svendre> Pinkbeast: oh I see it now.. interesting, so the staff of air wasn't benefiting the transformation after the first time
15:30:58 <svendre> so is there any plan about this? Now I understand why it happened, but it means, you potentially always have to wait for the form to expire before recasting it if you want "optimal". I guess I don't care that much for the hassle for a couple AC
15:31:30 <Discord|> <12e​bering> you can use an ability to end transformation
15:31:48 <svendre> I was going to suggest a proposal to revisit transformations - to just make them stay on when player-cast...
15:32:19 <svendre> I know it's a power bump, but currently you can set triggers and just re-cast it all the time - it's frustrating knowing you can, and that it's the best thing to do, but tedious
15:32:57 <svendre> on until ability to end transformation is used... still timed when from wands
15:33:37 <svendre> I don't think transformations on the whole would suddenly be overpowered. It'd make fun times for people to play with storm form in the next tourney
15:35:19 <svendre> you could have it lower max mana if it seems too powerful, but I don't think it would be a big deal if it didn't
15:37:14 <Cheibriados> New branch created: time-warp-again (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/time-warp-again
15:37:15 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[time-warp-again] * 0.27-a0-1371-g681f993: feat: Make Lehudib's Crystal Spear cast quickly 10(26 hours ago, 3 files, 12+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/681f9936d4d1
15:37:15 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[time-warp-again] * 0.27-a0-1372-g79a56a9: feat: New Spell: Maxwell's Coupling Level 8 Air magic 10(25 hours ago, 16 files, 246+ 27-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/79a56a9a6a53
15:38:48 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> maybe Maxwell's Capacitative Coupling to slightly minimize the innuendo jokes
15:39:59 <svendre> cool, new l8 air spell - I'm reloading to check that out
15:40:39 <svendre> oh I guess it's not deployed to the server yet :/
15:40:41 <advil> that's in a branch
15:41:00 <svendre> advil, wanna reload cao? :D
15:41:20 <advil> someone would have to merge it to trunk
15:43:57 <Discord|> <05k​ate> double speed LCS with no other changes to it seems like a pretty substantial buff to an already good spell, i don't really see the justification for it personally
15:44:53 <Discord|> <05k​ate> like, it could be an interesting spell gimmick but i'm not sure LCS is really the place for it? the flavour feels like a little bit of a stretch to me too
15:45:12 <svendre> That will be painful coming from monsters. I had a recent death in elf due to a triple LCS cast against me.
15:46:08 <svendre> I think the advantage that LCS should have over iron shot is that it could work like a polearm reach attack, or maybe give it piercing like a javelin
15:46:51 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> there are no remaining interactive non-cancellable scrolls, right?
15:47:06 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> seems like acq reform eliminated that mechanism
15:48:34 <svendre> advil: I don't think you can cancel blink once you read it (?) if that applies to what you're asking.
15:48:36 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> blinking is definitely listed as uncancellable in the code
15:48:38 -!- Psymania_ is now known as Psymania
15:48:44 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> er
15:48:46 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> cancellable
15:48:57 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> haven
15:49:04 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> haven't checked if that is implemented correctly
15:49:18 <Discord|> <05k​ate> there's no uncancellable ones in the sense that acquirement used to be (where it saves the state if you quit the game and then reloads it), i'm pretty sure
15:50:32 <Discord|> <05k​ate> if you read-id blink/amnesia/ea/ew then cancelling them still spends the turn+scroll, that's the closest thing left to being uncancellable i think
15:52:28 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> maybe _is_cancellable_scroll means literally the opposite of what I thought
15:52:52 <Discord|> <03w​heals> looks like draw 3, stack 5, pot pet, and call merchant still use the uncancellable code, but no consumables
15:54:03 <Discord|> <05k​ate> those are scrolls that (once you've identified them) give you a prompt that you can cancel out of to abort the scroll without using it up or spending a turn, yeah. scrolls not on that list are ones that spend the scroll and turn immediately no matter what
16:04:24 <Discord|> <12e​bering> LCS is good but based on player feedback received at various time and my own perceptions its rare for LCS to be sufficiently better than Iron Shot to be tempting
16:05:54 <Discord|> <12e​bering> also the earth spells are still the most uniform, really only differentiated by damage and range numbers
16:07:06 <Discord|> <05k​ate> it's definitely always felt sufficiently better than iron shot to me, and if nothing else i'd say it's in the more interesting design space of the two spells with the range limitation to work around. making those two spells more distinct definitely sounds like a reasonable thing to do but double speed casting feels like far too much for LCS to me
16:10:44 <Discord|> <05k​ate> crystal elsewhere has the existing flavour of being bouncy/reflective i guess, although that wouldn't make much sense without it also being piercing and steps on air magic's toes
16:10:44 <svendre> I agree with kate. I prefer LCS over iron shot after I'm able to cast it with ease. Having extra damage matters as it's primarily used as a big-threat-killer, worth closing the range for strategically. Being able to "unload" it faster could make it do more damage at close range, but it's not really interesting beyond making it hit harder, but adds a great concern about damage spikes from monsters for one of the most
16:10:44 <svendre> difficult damage sources to manage.
16:12:29 <svendre> maybe it could have an LDS effect on impact or something like that to spice it up.
16:12:57 <svendre> shrapnel
16:15:07 <Discord|> <12e​bering> @hellmonk is typing
16:15:13 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> lol
16:16:06 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> I think that lcs is usually not good unless you either are going to get shatter or have servitor online already
16:16:09 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> dunno about this speed casting thing though
16:17:03 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> it's like what, probably 3x the xp of iron shot for less range, more mp per cast, and somewhat more damage
16:18:09 <svendre> if you're training for earth spells, in extended, the extra xp mile to go from iron shot (where you've already invested some in conj presumably) to get lcs reliable seems pretty trivial.
16:18:28 <svendre> even if that means 3x the xp of iron shot
16:19:27 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> sure, in extended you might as well
16:19:28 <svendre> I'm not saying it shouldn't be substantially better than iron shot, just saying that I'd still use it over iron shot for the long hauls
16:19:59 <svendre> I don't think it's 3x more powerful than iron shot (if the measure is based solely on xp, which isn't linear so.. really shouldn't be)
16:20:39 <svendre> iron shot is pretty freakin good, honestly, I'd roll with iron shot/lcs and shatter and what else do you even need
16:21:59 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> yeah, part of it may be that iron shot is just a really good, fairly efficient single target conjuration
16:22:15 <Discord|> <12e​bering> ok, second offer
16:22:17 <Discord|> <05k​ate> the other common LCS suggestion is to make it smite-targeted and flavour it as a stalagmite/stalactite i guess, which feels more reasonable to me in terms of power level but does take away from the positional aspect
16:22:26 <Discord|> <12e​bering> ironshot casts slow
16:22:30 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> lol
16:22:35 <Discord|> <12e​bering> the iron is heavy
16:22:54 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> iron shot casts using your throwing speed
16:24:04 <svendre> how about iron shot pushes you back 1 square in a random direction (180 degrees)
16:24:29 <svendre> might help, or might screw you up
16:24:34 <Discord|> <05k​ate> i do think like, flavourwise you could argue for casting speed to be an earth magic thing, maybe! like, fast shrapnel stuff and slow single-target stuff or something like that
16:24:41 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> make iron shot earth/tloc GIGA FORCE LANCE
16:24:54 <Discord|> <05k​ate> LRD even has "rapid" in the name!
16:25:06 <Discord|> <12e​bering> yeah, it's an idea I've had stewing
16:25:10 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> lee's speed 10 deconstruction just doesn't have the same ring to it
16:25:24 <Discord|> <12e​bering> it
16:25:31 <svendre> that's what I meant, LRD at the impact location of LCS (not LDS or whatever I said)
16:25:34 <Discord|> <12e​bering> it's rather easy to implement these time bends
16:28:40 <svendre> or, how about if LCS has a chance to knocks the target out cold for a turn (instead of the speed cast)
16:28:52 <svendre> so it is concussive
16:29:38 <svendre> or some other kind of stun effect, maybe not like paralysis, but somehow disabling
16:29:46 <MakMorn> Lehudib's Concussive Shard
16:30:12 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> as long as it doesn't apply to monster lcs that seems fun
16:32:51 <Discord|> <12e​bering> well I'll shelve the earth-time-ideas for further marination on the idea of spell timing
16:33:40 <svendre> fast casting seems like a good ability for sif or veh
16:37:06 <Discord|> <12e​bering> what about M0
16:38:37 <svendre> MO?
16:38:41 <Discord|> <05k​ate> was just going to say yeah, i do think channeling could be an interesting implementation for it, i'm curious to try that out
16:39:04 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Maxwell's Coupling
16:39:09 <Discord|> <12e​bering> name might need some bikeshedding
16:39:35 <svendre> so, it builds up while you wait and then kills 1 target, right?
16:39:55 <Discord|> <05k​ate> it being air feels maybe a little arbitrary, but it's probably fine to flavour it for wherever fits best in terms of gaps in spell levels
16:41:13 <Discord|> <05k​ate> i was thinking there were more high-level air spells but the other one is just CBL now i guess
16:41:25 <svendre> Is it supposed to be air that is doing the killing? Something like air pressure is building up, or maybe it suffocates the target. So, call it Void something..
16:41:28 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Storm Form!
16:41:38 <svendre> or call it Suffocate
16:41:54 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> tloc flavor ducks
16:41:58 <Discord|> <05k​ate> i was thinking about conjuration-style things i guess but yeah, stormform too now
16:42:03 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> absolute poison
16:42:23 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Olgreb's Five Point Exploding Heart Technique
16:42:27 <svendre> hahaha
16:43:35 <svendre> actually, that's interesting - some version of Barbs that actually kills you if you move before it wears off
16:44:02 <Discord|> <12e​bering> dpeg will come out of retirement if we add a high level poison spell
16:44:53 <svendre> the poison spell I'd like would be "contagion" where one poisoned monster poisons another one +1 each time it steps near it
16:45:10 <svendre> and it could potentially kill off an entire pack passing it about depnding on the movements
16:45:23 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> til that scroll of silence's initial radius is random
16:45:41 <Discord|> <05k​ate> i guess it would definitely weight air a bit more highly towards high-level damage spells than the other elemental schools, since they each have one L7-8 and one L9, air would have all three of L7, 8 and 9
16:45:44 <svendre> (or fizzle out if you were unlucky)
16:47:22 <svendre> the real issue with air is that the l5 (lightning bolt) is so terribly unreliable, it barely feels worth investing in conj for it, and ball lightning is really powerful but too easy to kill yourself with ... very situational in terms of space.. that you're going from shock to air-strike to chain lightning and anything else in-between
16:48:03 <svendre> I think freezing cloud is the best thing you can cast as mid level air (over mid level air spells)
16:49:05 <svendre> if you have l9 chain lightning, I don't think a multi-turn to get 1 kill spell level 8 would even be used much
16:49:22 <svendre> because in several turns, if you can chain lightning, it'll likely be more effective. late game, you end up getting life-on-kills from the extra monsters around the boss you're trying to kill
16:50:24 <Cheibriados> New branch created: shoals_encompass (3 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/shoals_encompass
16:50:24 <Cheibriados> 03hellmonk02 07[shoals_encompass] * 0.27-a0-1286-g75845fd: Encompass shoals ending: lost city 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 76+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/75845fd0cc99
16:50:24 <Cheibriados> 03hellmonk02 07[shoals_encompass] * 0.27-a0-1287-g6896210: Storm Palace shoals encompass ending 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 271+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/68962109010a
16:50:24 <Cheibriados> 03hellmonk02 07[shoals_encompass] * 0.27-a0-1288-gf08d354: Minor adjustments, syntax cleanup and checkwhite 10(71 seconds ago, 1 file, 13+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f08d3544d20f
16:51:55 <Discord|> <05k​ate> oh wow, storm dragon shoals wasn't just an empty threat
16:52:12 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> (there is already a shoals vault that can place a titan fwiw)
16:53:43 <Discord|> <05k​ate> yeah, i guess it's not totally unreasonable or anything, also good to differentiate shoals ends a bit from just swarms of high-tier merfolk probably
16:54:09 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> yeah, trying to add some rune vaults that are lower density but have more dangerous boss threats
16:54:47 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> though the density on these might need to come down even more since they don't prohibit regular monster gen
16:56:05 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/2003 (3 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2003
16:56:05 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/2003 updated to be equal with shoals_encompass: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2003
17:06:07 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Planning to merge M0 with nicolae's suggested name change
17:06:23 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Capacitive will become the next Liquefaction
17:12:56 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08shoals_encompass @ f08d3544 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/980406396
17:21:51 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> @hellmonk request you remove the _encompass bit from the vault name to maybe cut down the name length a bit, don't think that really communicates much. since subvaults are involved the name gets pretty long. We typically also put vault author names in subvaults, but I suppose we can just consider that implicit since you're the parent vault author
17:22:01 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> if I add a subvault to it, I can use my name
17:22:09 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> ok
17:22:26 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> nice to see more shoals end, will be fun to take a look at those
17:22:38 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> still wrapping up touches on ice cave crap, keep finding stuff to tweak
17:23:02 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> you'll be happy to know that random cloud placement is gone and they place only in designated areas that make reasonable sense now
17:23:43 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> to the extent that reasonable sense and cloud generator can be a thing, at least
17:24:51 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> oh huh, seems like there's a shoals end check in fulldebug that fails with the new ends
17:25:01 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> guess I'll have to look at that
17:25:48 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> @hellmonk unforgivable sin, run checkwhite you literal monster
17:25:48 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/859182820445257778/unknown.png
17:26:25 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> huh, thought I did that
17:26:42 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> w/e I'll make fixes before I push it
17:26:46 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> need feedback anyway
17:26:57 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> maybe you fixed that in the fix commit
17:27:09 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> oh yeah, sorry, I see that
17:27:44 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-1371-g6e4aca1: feat: quivering spells/potions 10(31 hours ago, 3 files, 139+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e4aca117473
17:27:44 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-1372-ga08111d: refactor: generalize and unify some quiver boilerplate 10(30 hours ago, 1 file, 119+ 211-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a08111df00bd
17:27:44 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-1373-gea054b7: feat: add static targeters for several scrolls 10(17 minutes ago, 10 files, 233+ 45-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea054b796db6
17:28:17 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> I wonder if weight 2 is a bit too aggressive downweighting
17:28:25 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> I guess there are just not a lot of shoals ends right now even with these
17:28:47 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> the total weight of every other shoals end vault is 28 iirc
17:28:48 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> but also not sure how much harder/easier these are, which is another factor
17:29:07 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> these are each half the weight of the open shoals end, which is half the weight of the others
17:29:19 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> would be willing to make them like weight 3 or sth
17:29:35 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> but I would prefer to keep them fairly rare
17:29:55 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> initially it'd actually be nice if they had a little higher rate to get feedback, but then again we don't really do that much with vaults, even endings like this
17:30:01 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> since it's ultimately not super critical
17:41:55 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08master @ ea054b79 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/980519349
17:47:21 <Discord|> <12e​bering> @advil you have angered the shaggy compiler
17:49:23 <advil> hm
17:50:07 <advil> include order stuff I guess
17:51:58 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-1374-gc14e5d3: fix: missing header? 10(24 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c14e5d39220c
17:53:47 <advil> @PleasingFungus btw did you consider working that targeting description stuff into targeter objects somehow?
18:12:47 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-1375-g4b199c8: feat: New Spell: Maxwell's Capacitive Coupling 10(28 hours ago, 18 files, 251+ 27-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4b199c8bd326
18:16:49 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1373-gea054b796d (34)
18:24:11 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.27-a0-1374-gc14e5d3922 (34)
18:59:20 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> sorry, what stuff?
18:59:26 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> @advil ^
19:15:23 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1375-g4b199c8bd3 (34)
20:20:26 <Cheibriados> 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-1376-g3820e56: Don't allow activating the Sceptre of Asmodeus with Sac Love 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3820e560760f
20:21:17 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> i like that the message rhymes
20:27:14 <Discord|> <05k​ate> hah yeah, i guess the new message makes the rhythm slightly off
20:27:23 <Discord|> <05k​ate> too many syllables...
20:28:12 <|amethyst> Thou art hated, yea by all / And not a soul will heed thy call
20:29:02 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> You are still hated by all, and nothing will answer your call  some dactyls for ya (YOU are still HAted by ALL (and) NOthing will ANswer your CALL)
20:33:23 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> desc_filter additional_desc = _targeter_addl_desc(spell, powc, flags, evoked_wand, hitfunc.get()); etc
20:34:06 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> I realize you didn't add the direction chooser get_desc_func api so were probably just working with that
20:34:49 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> but a lot of those calculations seem like more fine grained versions of what targeters do, you can see it that way in the commit where I added scroll targeters
20:35:38 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1376-g3820e56076 (34)
20:35:53 <|amethyst> Higgedly-piggedly / Sigmund and Edmund will / Slaughter the players who / Haven't a clue / So will the Grinder, whom / Is preordained to doom / Excruciatingly / Thou to thy doom
20:36:14 <|amethyst> need a better word in the last line, I know
20:37:19 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> thou in this room maybe
20:37:19 <|amethyst> Needs to rhyme whith "clue"
20:37:41 <|amethyst> Thou on D:2
20:37:57 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> yeah i was about to say something with D:2, clearly that means it's the best option
20:38:06 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> both of us were dipping into the collective unconscious
20:38:20 <|amethyst> Also, it's probably too risqué, but I will advocate for this as a title splash:
20:38:23 <|amethyst> https://i.redd.it/t49u5j1znn471.png
20:38:42 <|amethyst> courtesy lIl_IIl_lIlI
21:30:18 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> lol
21:30:23 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i think it’s great art
21:30:34 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> but i don’t think it should be a splash
21:30:45 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> call me a prude if you will…
21:30:49 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> sigmund flexes. you are confused, sexually
21:31:55 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i’m operating on significantly too few hours of sleep to respond to this intelligently and will simply assume that you’re right
21:32:01 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> in whatever you’re saying
22:02:54 * |amethyst calls PleasingFungus a prude
22:10:40 <Pinkbeast> !cmd earlygod .echo $(let (x (!lm ${1:-.} $* god.worship  place=(d:1|d:2|d:3) xl<9 won x=cdist(gid) fmt:"${x}" stub:"0") y (!lm ${1:-.} $* god.worship place=(d:1|d:2|d:3) xl<9 x=cdist(gid) fmt:"${x}" stub:"0") player (name_fixup ${1:-.})) "${player}$(argst $*) has won after using a pre-d:4 altar $x out of $y times: $(int (/ (* 100 $x) $y))%.")
22:10:41 <Sequell> Redefined command: !earlygod => .echo $(let (x (!lm ${1:-.} $* god.worship place=(d:1|d:2|d:3) xl<9 won x=cdist(gid) fmt:"${x}" stub:"0") y (!lm ${1:-.} $* god.worship place=(d:1|d:2|d:3) xl<9 x=cdist(gid) fmt:"${x}" stub:"0") player (name_fixup ${1:-.})) "${player}$(argst $*) has won after using a pre-d:4 altar $x out of $y times: $(int (/ (* 100 $x) $y))%.")
22:10:51 <Pinkbeast> Gah, sorry!
22:11:13 <Pinkbeast> !earlygod .
22:11:15 <Sequell> Pinkbeast has won after using a pre-d:4 altar 3 out of 39 times: 7%.
22:11:42 <Pinkbeast> I think that was just an (inadvertent) redefining of the command to itself.
22:24:09 <|amethyst> !earlygod .
22:24:11 <Sequell> |amethyst has won after using a pre-d:4 altar 1 out of 1877 times: 0%.
22:24:54 <|amethyst> !lg .
22:24:54 <Sequell> 16747. Neil the Chiller (L8 VpIE of Vehumet), slain by a vampire on D:7 (minmay_misc_feat_iff) on 2021-06-29 02:19:51, with 1600 points after 6171 turns and 0:20:01.
22:25:42 <|amethyst> D:<4 altar 11% of the time
22:26:30 <|amethyst> remind me, what is the Sequell modifier for non-quitting, non-wizmode, etc. games?
22:29:09 <|amethyst> (also, I am very upset that zsnes is crashing on me when I take the last teleporter to fight X-Death in FFV; I suppose I should try another emulator, assuming they have the same save format)
22:34:55 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> !lg |amethyst !boring
22:34:57 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> 15261. Neil the Chiller (L8 VpIE of Vehumet), slain by a vampire on D:7 (minmay_misc_feat_iff) on 2021-06-29 02:19:51, with 1600 points after 6171 turns and 0:20:01.
22:40:07 <|amethyst> hmm, kind of surprised thatr only 1487 / 16747 of my games are !boring
22:40:22 <|amethyst> was expecting it to be significantly higher
22:40:32 <|amethyst> s/thatr/that
23:07:43 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> !earlygod .
23:07:45 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> hellmonk has won after using a pre-d:4 altar 41 out of 55 times: 74%.
23:08:55 <svendre> wow, storm form at higher power is impressive
23:09:01 <svendre> it seems like the damage has increased with spellpower - or is that my imagination? How much is based on unarmed combat vs the spell power?
23:10:55 <svendre> !earlygod
23:10:57 <Sequell> svendre has won after using a pre-d:4 altar 72 out of 235 times: 30%.
23:12:42 <svendre> hmm just 10% higher than my average
23:13:44 <svendre> !lg svendre !boring
23:13:45 <Sequell> 1264. svendre the Fighter (L11 DjAM of Gozag), slain by an orc knight in Bailey (bailey_axe_2) on 2021-06-27 16:44:16, with 6856 points after 12200 turns and 1:49:13.
23:15:15 <svendre> oh, that game.. that was more like !annoying. That orc knigh was almost dead, double poisoned, I had quaffed a healing potion and merely stepped away. It move+hit in the same turn on me, doing 17 damage through 17AC in chain mail (pretty high AC for early on)
23:17:05 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> some of each, though only uc determines attack speed
23:18:06 <svendre> I'm finding some interesting tactics with blinkbolt, I originally thought of it as some kind of escape tool, but I'm finding it's a much better offensive move.
23:19:00 <svendre> My octopode hasn't trained stealth, and the spell is quite loud, but if re-cast before encounters, I've essentially sort of sleep-stabbed a lot of things. It would be extremely interesting with the assassin's hood and training stealth to see how that worked.
23:21:54 <svendre> I think it could have some potential tedious cheese if used with summon allies forced to retreat before engaging as a blink-escape move, but that would be pretty awful to play an entire game that way.
23:42:22 <Kelbell> Eugor (L8 DECj) ERROR in 'spl-damage.cc' at line 3015: ASSERT failed: you.attribute[ATTR_SEARING_RAY] of 0 out of range 1 (1) .. 4 (4) (D:6)
23:50:57 <Cheibriados> 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-1377-g9e2facc: Don't crash when cancelling a Searing Ray 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9e2faccc22bf
23:50:57 <Cheibriados> 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-1378-gdefffd1: Staticify a function 10(80 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/defffd1ff6d8