00:04:23 -!- mhcerri0 is now known as mhcerri 00:21:37 Having a hard time finding an answer, so asking here: Is there a way to block only anonymous spectators? I don't mind spectators, but the ones that never talk and just seem to stalk creep me out a bit. 00:43:17 I don't think that there is and that there should be. Playing online goes with the premise 00:43:29 "you can be watched by others" 01:03:21 <10PleasingFungus> eh 01:03:46 <10PleasingFungus> i think it's ok to want to have your stats tracked, to want to play with others, etc without wanting to see anon spectators in chat 01:04:32 <08wormsofcan> easy compromise: rc setting that makes webtiles not count anonymous spectators 01:34:32 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1312-g5cdb2b3542 (34) 01:55:24 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1312-g5cdb2b3542 02:53:02 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1312-g5cdb2b3542 (34) 02:53:44 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1312-g5cdb2b3542 03:30:52 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4217-g7c68dc2372 03:45:58 Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.03-546-g1a8806137e 04:14:10 -!- The topic of #crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | https://github.com/crawl/crawl | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to #crawl | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please 04:14:11 -!- The topic of #crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions, ??lg / !lg for play stats | PM Sequell for long queries | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV game replays: ??footv for instructions | #crawl-dev for dev discussion, #crawl-offtopic for offtopic 05:25:47 Prakerore (L27 OgIE) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (Vaults:5) 12:47:28 Hello. Could someone help me with a piece of code, please? I've added a parameter "set spell_stash" to "class player : public actor" in player.h — and it works fine, but doesn't persist through save/load. How can I make it do so? 12:48:17 tags.cc stows that sort of structure 12:48:58 Particularly enlightening is to look at past commits that change it and how they deal with savefile compatibility from old saves 12:49:19 I don't care about savefile compatibility, I just need a newly created character to be able to save this parameter. 12:50:05 You don't propose to submit a PR to vanilla? OK; but I think you'll still find such past commits helpful. 12:51:25 My fork is based on 0.14, heh. 12:52:33 I'll look into that file, thanks. But I doubt that it's what's needed for my issue... 12:53:59 actually variadic things do get stored as tags so they can be extended as needed, so it is probably what you want 12:54:28 It is. 12:54:58 Yeah, sorry, found it there. Thank you very much! 12:55:16 https://github.com/damerell/crawl/commit/88709e9936910b2feb7c44e655113428b51e5a19 is a commit where I _just_ fix my own naive assumption that this all happened automagically, which may be clearest 12:56:36 (and predates me knowing about savefile compatibility hem-hem so also leaves that stuff out) 12:57:24 Very helpful, thanks. I've seen that file before and at a glance assumed that it was only needed for savefile compatibility. 12:58:46 I'm working on a way for Djinn (yeah, added these to 0.14) to hide unwanted spells in their spellbook. It works, but couldn't figure out saving. 13:00:24 Also if you can get your thing into you.props it gets saved automagically 13:00:44 It makes saves bigger than aggressive bit-squishing but saves are tiny anyway 13:02:22 Interesting, thanks. 13:04:23 <10PleasingFungus> wow, 0.14 13:04:39 <10PleasingFungus> is this a fork you've been working on for a while? 13:05:27 <10PleasingFungus> 0.15 big changes: new ranged combat, no more weight limit, no more item destruction, temporary corrosion 13:05:28 <10PleasingFungus> do you like the feel of those old systems more? 13:05:30 Well yeah, and that's why I've chosen 0.14 as a base: I don't like most of these changes. 13:05:40 <10PleasingFungus> makes sense 13:06:05 <10PleasingFungus> what are some other changes in your fork? i'm really curious 13:06:23 What kind of crazy person would start a variant just because they don't like a handful of changes in a newer version? # (for the avoidance of doubt, the answer is "me, too") 13:07:46 <10PleasingFungus> i disliked a change once... (removal of dragon call power enhancer from dragon form) 13:08:28 Gnoll, singularity, new crosstraining, no antitraining, about half of the new demonspawn mutations, demonspawn as a job, mp/np regen in %, demonspawn as a job, things like that. 13:08:45 All of these implemented already. Working on spell library. 13:09:03 PF: And you're just biding your time to sneakily put it back in? 13:09:31 <10PleasingFungus> demonspawn as a job! so you can be an orcish demonspawn, centaur demonspawn, etc? what sort of starting skills/gear do you get? 13:09:43 <10PleasingFungus> pinkbeast: the moment that gammafunk's not looking... bam! 13:09:55 <10PleasingFungus> he'll never see it coming 13:10:07 Reverted this: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=354d479892545acbb6e81888f1663c9b8cd6cfd4 13:10:56 Bad weapons, book of conjurations, animal skin. 13:11:25 <10PleasingFungus> huh, weapons and book and mutations sounds like a pretty strong kit 13:11:28 They get apts modded by the amount Ds differs from Hu and get Ds mutations. 13:12:17 Basically, something like a demonspawn reaver (if you remember that old job, heh) 13:13:52 <10PleasingFungus> of course i do 🙂 13:13:59 <10PleasingFungus> just a fun name for a fun hybrid setup 13:14:03 I've seen a variant of this in BcadrenCrawl and loved it. Going to lift a bunch of other ideas from there too, it's the best fork I've played. Still not perfect for me, thus this project. 13:18:21 BTW PleasingFungus, BcadrenCrawl has a draconian god that gifts you +wiz for all the spells in book of the dragon. 13:18:30 And the book itself. 13:20:00 <10PleasingFungus> very thematic 🙂 13:28:49 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1312-g5cdb2b3 (34) 15:12:56 <09gammafunk> A fork based on 0.14 15:13:03 <09gammafunk> I think I've seen it all now 15:13:28 <09gammafunk> At least until someone makes a 4.1a fork, saying they don't like the changes in dcss 0.1 15:17:11 <09gammafunk> @PleasingFungus it occurred to me that the book changes might require some systematic vault adjustment, instances where they list things like "ice themed book rewards" etc. 15:18:46 <09hellmonk> Need a vault based on that one meme where today's teens are lining up for a movie and nobody is in line for book 15:20:03 <09gammafunk> wonder how you depitc a movie playing in a crawl vault 15:27:07 <08nicolae> well as long as randbooks still exist those would still work 15:27:21 <08nicolae> unless you're taking out randbooks and i just missed that part because i didn't scroll back all the way 15:28:27 <09gammafunk> @nicolae but there are still fixed ice books, no? why do we need to use randbooks 15:29:13 <08nicolae> oh, i misread, you can theme a randbook on a specific school so i thought that's what you meant by "ice themed book rewards" 15:29:34 <09gammafunk> right, those are fine (and are often in such lists) 15:30:12 <08nicolae> if fixed books are removed entirely, i don't know if you can specify both a level range and a theme for the same book, but maybe just like "mid-level ice book" 15:32:15 <09gammafunk> well, no, I'm not commenting on a hypothetical change, but on PF's breanch 15:32:44 <09gammafunk> the one you see in scrollback, reading_rainbow 15:32:55 <09gammafunk> was pushed a couple of days ago 15:33:38 <09gammafunk> fixed books still exist, but there are more of them 15:33:40 <08nicolae> yeah, that one 15:33:45 <09gammafunk> so any lists of thematic books need to be adjusted 15:33:53 <08nicolae> not it 15:34:37 <09hellmonk> Need a vault that places a "complete works" or "definitive compilation" randbook with like 9 spells 15:34:54 <09gammafunk> I feel there even is a book vaguely like that 15:35:06 <08nicolae> randbooks go up to 8 15:35:07 <09hellmonk> Possible 15:35:16 <08nicolae> i've thought about it 15:38:37 <09gammafunk> I'm not sure that the two types of randbooks we have are the best possible types either 15:40:47 Of all the books I've seen, the best one had been "of greatest utility" with a single spell inside. Tornado. Probably a fixed vault book, never checked. 15:42:09 <08nicolae> i've had thoughts about other algorithms for generating randbooks but since i wasn't planning on implementing them i haven't posted much about them 15:48:34 <09gammafunk> "greatest utility" is in fact a potential randart weapon name, but apparently not one for book, nor is there any vault that makes a random book containing the word "greatest" 15:48:42 <09gammafunk> possible that the randbook names have changed over time 15:57:06 <09gammafunk> for types of randbooks, schools and level are the two primary aspects of spells, so I guess having two randbook types based on these aspects is pretty natural, now that I think a little more about it. I could see just having one type and allowing the specification to work a little differently, allowing you to specify both schools and spell level ranges, with both aspects being optional. Possibly 15:57:06 you'd want to let the school listing be an arbitrary list so your spell level restriction wouldn't be too restrictive. To some extent, though, with a larger set of fixed books there's less of a need to lots of randbook flexibility. 16:00:25 <10PleasingFungus> yes, that’s mentioned in the pr 16:01:05 <09gammafunk> yeah, I should probably read the pr 16:01:05 <09gammafunk> but then again, reading is difficult.... 16:02:26 <08nicolae> reading is a fraud, it was invented by hollywood for silent movies so they wouldn't have to pay for sound recording technology 16:03:08 <10PleasingFungus> wow 16:06:35 <09gammafunk> I hear ya brother. taps shoulder been tired a reading. that's why I finally went out and got the vaccine. figured it was time for an upgrade to that there fancy HD, might as well just let the government pay for it. 16:13:37 Can be misremembering it, been long ago. There's "The @book_noun@ of Greatest Risks and Utility" in the list.