02:46:42 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1202-ge72e49191c 10:16:03 I gave a few people a more complete flag set on this channel, happy to give it to other devs too (though now everyone who I gave these flags to can do it also I think) 10:16:05 hm 10:17:42 bh maybe when you have a sec you could do something similar for #crawl? 10:17:42 oh he's not actuall in here 10:31:46 03hellmonk02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.27-a0-1203-g6ab302a: New guarded unrand vaults. 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 485+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6ab302a81b50 10:31:46 03gammafunk02 07* 0.27-a0-1204-g4ce4c22: Clean up lua depth checks 10(2 days ago, 11 files, 59+ 59-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4ce4c228df5a 10:31:46 03gammafunk02 07* 0.27-a0-1205-g8ece3b8: Some tweaks to a few large themed vaults 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 155+ 183-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8ece3b8c5a2b 10:31:46 03gammafunk02 07* 0.27-a0-1206-g6342a01: Update some guarded unrand vaults 10(5 days ago, 1 file, 364+ 235-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6342a01c7522 10:47:31 !kw slimeicecave vlong>=0.27-a0-1125-g131cd56ac5 10:47:31 Defined keyword: slimeicecave => vlong>=0.27-a0-1125-g131cd56ac5 10:57:01 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur 12:45:12 <08nicolae> imo frostbite deserves an entire encompass vault 13:06:07 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1206-g6342a01 (34) 18:12:21 03robertxgray02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1892 * 0.27-a0-1194-g6e7419f: Fix several file accesses 10(7 minutes ago, 14 files, 24+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e7419f31266 18:38:14 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur 19:01:49 Let's be real: while casting Invisibility on your allies looks like a cool tech, nobody uses it. I suggest making the spell only self-targetable, saving one keypress per cast this way. 19:04:32 <08wormsofcan> what about the cool tech of targeting a monster with it so ranged allies will shoot at them 19:06:16 <08nicolae> why would making a monster invisible make your allies shoot it 19:06:34 It's make its allies shoot at it. 19:06:41 it'll* 19:07:18 <08nicolae> 😮 19:07:18 <08wormsofcan> only the ones that can't see it, of course 19:17:09 <10PleasingFungus> that is cool tech 19:18:16 <10PleasingFungus> but i vaguely like the idea of following yermak's suggestion for UI reasons, and moving the cool tech to something else 19:18:16 <10PleasingFungus> imagine an evocable or consumable that makes everything in LOS invisible 19:18:20 <10PleasingFungus> or an unrand 19:18:22 <10PleasingFungus> you know 19:18:28 <10PleasingFungus> chaos mode... 19:24:43 <10PleasingFungus> also probably a xom effect 19:24:56 <10PleasingFungus> but i don't like having it exclusively xom 19:25:14 <10PleasingFungus> i assume the folx who dislike monster invis are not excited about this idea 19:25:32 <09hellmonk> very excited to yell about it 19:25:35 <10PleasingFungus> haha 19:25:43 <10PleasingFungus> isn't that the whole point 19:25:50 <09hellmonk> yes 19:26:03 <09hellmonk> Need tavern 2 so i can accrue more thankses 19:26:41 <10PleasingFungus> what if i told you discord was tavern 2 19:26:43 <10PleasingFungus> and emotes are thanks 19:30:49 <09gammafunk> Some potential manual tweaks as I update stuff to refer to Libera instead of freenode: The links in "A. Overview" are a bit console-oriented in terms of linking to "how to connect" over just the home page. Was going to just have that point to the home page, at least primarily. Probably we should add the "how to connect" link to the home page somewhere. I see that under "L. Licence, contact, 19:30:49 history" we recommend the roguelikes discord. It might be good to update that to link to the reddit as well, possibly we want to only refer to github issues for now and not mantis. 19:33:20 <10PleasingFungus> both sets of changes sound good 19:33:36 <10PleasingFungus> did you want me to do some? 19:34:46 <09gammafunk> How do you feel about the info in the L section? Any should be moved to Overview instead? 19:35:30 <09gammafunk> I feel we want that section to be reasonably short, but maybe want to mention the basics. Not sure if we should link to community info in Overview beyond the website (which offers said links to this info). But we could list the community info in L under overview 19:36:08 <09gammafunk> I guess at a minimum we should link to the website under Overview since it's the best collection of playing online + download links (in addition to having community info, which I'll also update) 19:37:33 <09gammafunk> If you have strong opinions on what goes where in that regards, feel free to take a stab first. My only strong opinion is that we link to the main home page initially in overview 19:39:08 <09gammafunk> I will probably also remove the blurb about crawl variants under L. that I think very few people have heard of. I do like the history section otherwise. 19:47:44 <10PleasingFungus> i extremely want to know about Ax-Crawl 19:47:48 <10PleasingFungus> i have never heard of it anywhere else 19:48:12 <10PleasingFungus> the huge paragraph about history is good but needs to be split up into probably 3-4 grafs 19:48:20 <10PleasingFungus> no rush though 19:48:38 <10PleasingFungus> agree with your plan; happy to let you take the lead on this 19:51:08 <09gammafunk> ok. For the history, it might be nice to have a shorter summary and link to darshan's nice writeup we have on wordpress 19:51:08 <09gammafunk> guess I'll take a tab at it and people can tweak if they like 19:51:11 <09gammafunk> ??ax crawl 19:51:11 <04Cerebot> I don't have a page labeled ax_crawl in my learndb. 19:51:14 <09gammafunk> ??ax-crawl 19:51:14 <04Cerebot> ax-crawl ~ x-crawl[1/1]: A 'democratically driven' crawl fork developed on the {CXC} Discord. Playable on https://x-crawl.de/#lobby or https://crawl.project357.org/ Repository: https://github.com/Vajrapani/X-Crawl 19:51:20 <09gammafunk> well, not that 19:52:15 <09hellmonk> eggs crawl 19:52:27 <10PleasingFungus> "Console text roguelike game based in Dungeon Crawl 4.0.0 beta 23, but with lots of enhacements" 19:52:37 <10PleasingFungus> "interface changes, managment of savegames, more items, more customizable, multilanguaje, etc" 19:52:42 <09gammafunk> huh 19:52:55 <10PleasingFungus> there's a download on sourceforge (first google result) 19:52:58 <10PleasingFungus> i'm not clicking it 19:53:09 <10PleasingFungus> there's *also *PirateLord Ax - Lizard Crawl (Original Mix) by PirateLord Ax 19:53:16 <09gammafunk> Let it be known that I officially have a beef with the ax-crawl dev 19:53:21 <09gammafunk> Reason: maces guy 19:53:31 <10PleasingFungus> is this about the best way to split a chicken 19:56:48 <10PleasingFungus> hrm 19:57:24 <10PleasingFungus> it is impossible to cast a mass enchantment other than charm (lol) or frenzy (discord) on anything but living creatures 19:58:08 <10PleasingFungus> nonliving creatures are also specifically immune to ENCH_FEAR, except i don't think they could ever get hit by it 20:03:21 <09hellmonk> rip control undead 20:08:01 <10PleasingFungus> yeah we still have control undead code around like 5 years after it was removed? 20:08:09 <10PleasingFungus> it's been maintained! someone added SAC_LOVE support in there 20:08:42 <10PleasingFungus> my assumption is that whoever added that didn't understand what the code they were editing was actually for (quite reasonable!) 20:18:32 <08nicolae> unrand that lets you control undead 20:56:08 <09gammafunk> Want to really have your mind blown? 20:56:14 <09gammafunk> *??elemental wellspring 20:56:15 <04Cerebot> elemental wellspring (E) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 52-71 | AC/EV: 8/8 | non-living, regen, unbreathing | Res: will(invuln), elec, poison+++, drown, miasma, neg+++, torm | XP: 1454 | Sp: primal wave (3d24) [!sil] | Sz: Big | Int: brainless. 20:56:22 <09gammafunk> elemental wellsprings have extra regen!!!! 20:57:59 <09hellmonk> its so they die slower from their primal wave casts 21:12:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-1207-g72385e2: Fix pet AI / non-beam spells (ardl, dang3rdave) 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 10+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/72385e2e4b92 21:12:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-1208-g6385558: Simplifiy Invisibility (Yermak) 10(2 hours ago, 7 files, 20+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6385558a29ec 21:12:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-1209-gd1902e2: Fix missing dancing weapon / gozag death message (split) 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d1902e2d21d9 21:12:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-1210-gc6d2f85: Rewrite cause fear code (vt) 10(68 minutes ago, 11 files, 28+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c6d2f85da4ec 21:12:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-1211-g8faf1ed: Add message for manual for maxed skill (Yermak) 10(58 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8faf1edda156 21:12:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-1212-g5b7f721: Warn for a rare Ash/holy/necromut issue 10(44 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5b7f72125b41 21:12:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-1213-gd0ff78f: Don't allow wearing items over Lear's 10(36 minutes ago, 3 files, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d0ff78f834a8 21:12:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-1214-g373bd8b: Fix more Lear/merfolk/form bugs 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 35+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/373bd8bca11a 21:12:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-1215-g08c3841: Remove Okawaru's friend conduct 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/08c3841fb2f9 21:12:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-1216-ge08c5e1: Make the Amulet of the Air enhance air (hellmonk) 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 7+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e08c5e17fd96 21:38:12 <08wormsofcan> are you going to remove the good god friend conducts too 21:46:00 <09gammafunk> @hellmonk I don't think they take damage from that any more 21:46:24 <09gammafunk> they used to spawn water elementals, which damaged them, as I recall 21:47:20 <09hellmonk> how tf are they still elemental wellsprings if they don't spawn elementals 22:13:12 <10PleasingFungus> maybe? i have some other ideas but i'm out of steam now 23:09:21 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-1217-g8a41f32: Nerf peacekeeper bands in Vaults 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8a41f320e8e4