00:01:20 <10PleasingFungus> bang 01:47:16 PleasingFungus, if Yred no longer dislikes unliving, maybe remove Statue Form ban? 02:19:32 New branch created: pull/1847 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1847 02:19:32 03RojjaCebolla02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1847 * 0.27-a0-733-g928a651: Give away all of Bilbo's toys 10(8 minutes ago, 3 files, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/928a651c45ce 02:49:11 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.27-a0-732-ga892ba84f6 (34) 02:50:38 03bstrie02 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-733-gc3177a8: Use https rather than git protocol for submodules 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c3177a88c8c0 02:54:45 !kw newsnake cv>=0.27-a0-720 02:54:46 Defined keyword: newsnake => cv>=0.27-a0-720 02:54:53 !lg * newsnake Snake s=killer 02:54:54 No games for * (newsnake Snake). 02:55:28 !lg * newsnake 02:55:29 No games for * (newsnake). 02:55:32 oop 02:55:36 !kw newslime 02:55:37 Keyword: newslime => vlong>=0.27-a0-619-ge6a60533fa 02:55:57 !kw newsnake vlong>=0.27-a0-720 02:55:57 Defined keyword: newsnake => vlong>=0.27-a0-720 02:56:05 !lg * newsnake Snake s=killer 02:56:06 No games for * (newsnake Snake). 02:56:11 !lg * newsnake 02:56:12 270. floober the Sneak (L3 OpBr), succumbed to an adder's poison on D:2 on 2021-03-23 06:54:24, with 40 points after 1511 turns and 0:02:53. 03:02:58 <12ebering> would have liked a bit longer exp for dj; its probably fine but if I find something not fine that requires save compat I'll be sad 03:04:12 03Aliscans02 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-734-g3579b8c: Make autoexplore/travel wait for barbs to time out. 10(24 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3579b8c60df3 03:05:17 03Aliscans02 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-735-g06f963a: Add a relevant debug statement for blocking AUTOMATIC_HIT bolts. 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 21+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/06f963a17731 03:05:17 03Aliscans02 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-736-gaf063e7: Change a comment to show the power of the warlock's mirror correctly. 10(23 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/af063e712715 03:09:31 03WhiteShark02 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-737-g0a99b99: Update to Blade Hands description 10(4 days ago, 2 files, 23+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0a99b990b4ef 03:32:04 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-737-g0a99b990b4 (34) 03:40:03 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4091-gb6155e04b6 03:46:04 Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.03-211-g2b7ad2140f 04:43:32 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:43:46 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-738-g6942c2d: Changelog through 0.27-a0-737 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 46+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6942c2d06337 06:01:40 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-738-g6942c2d063 (34) 07:08:01 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-739-g640f5e8: Don't let Djinn mutate poison resistance 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/640f5e82da85 07:08:01 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-740-g4d3ab90: Let wisp/statueform players worship Yred (Yermak) 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4d3ab90b7fcb 07:16:49 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-740-g4d3ab90b7f (34) 07:39:11 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-741-g9bdce53: Don't let the staff of Wucad Mu activate for Djinn 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9bdce53276e8 07:39:11 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-742-g8cfd130: Adjust formatting 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8cfd13017ff1 07:46:56 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-742-g8cfd13017f (34) 07:57:49 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-743-g2db2cc2: Add a message when equipping Wucad Mu as a Djinn 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2db2cc27440f 08:01:58 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-743-g2db2cc2744 (34) 08:10:09 <13due> i'm trying to work out how many familiar devs there are from when i was around 08:10:09 <13due> and i realised that's like... 9-10 years ago 08:10:11 <13due> it always hits me super crazy 08:10:35 <13due> also i am so bloody smug that cheibriados got picked out of all the stupid names i came up with 08:10:42 <13due> and stuck! 09:20:22 <09gammafunk> it's a good name 09:58:49 <09gammafunk> @advil looks like cao chroot disk is full again. Sadly /chroot/cores is empty, so no help from that 10:08:28 <06advil> huh 10:08:51 <06advil> I really don't understand the +/- on this disk, it was at 6GB three days agao 10:14:24 Webtiles server stopped. 10:18:25 Webtiles server started. 10:18:25 <06advil> I've clawed back 2.4G by aggressively pruning old trunk versions and stripping binaries 10:18:30 <06advil> it may well happen again soon though, that's not much, I just don't have much time right this moment to do anything better 10:18:56 <09gammafunk> thanks. Can I use the usual dgl commands to do that myself if it comes up? 10:19:35 <09gammafunk> and presumably stopping/restarting webtiles 10:20:12 to force-upgrade old saves I use a script I got from floraline, it's in my home directory as ~advil/floraline-saves-cron.sh 10:20:23 needs to be run as root 10:21:08 uses dgl commands to upgrade saves, keeping (currently) the last 70 trunk versions, which is about 2 months given rebuilds 10:21:16 previously I was doing 80 trunk versions 10:21:42 then run `~crawl-dev/bin/clean-trunks` to clean up the now-empty trunk versions 10:22:02 some day[tm] I will finally get to figuring out a better solution to this problem... 10:22:15 <09gammafunk> thanks 10:22:57 to strip binaries I just do that manually, sort /chroot/usr/games by size and just run `sudo strip` on everything but the current one 11:08:40 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-744-g2d21d9d: HACK: semi-fix Freeze death message 10(51 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2d21d9d4bd72 11:10:59 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-745-gfadad42: Display ooze freeze damage on xv 10(21 seconds ago, 1 file, 14+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fadad42f2258 11:14:30 anyone know what's up with URLs like `https://termcast.shalott.org/ttyrecs/crawl.akrasiac.org/ttyrec`? 11:15:05 they're in sequell sources but 404 11:16:03 (The question I really have is if you list multiple sources, does it try all of them, but I suspect it does) 11:17:28 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-745-gfadad42f22 (34) 11:21:23 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-746-g1ccb5b4: Dj: guarantee new spells on level up (ardl) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1ccb5b4bd327 11:21:23 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-747-g32f27e8: Gargoyle Jiyva max Invo title: Rockslime (hellmonk) 10(34 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/32f27e8180b0 11:28:08 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-748-gdd9af0c: Fix Veh Dj power display bug 10(30 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dd9af0c1c529 11:32:23 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-748-gdd9af0c1c5 (34) 11:39:47 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-749-g4f19927: Drop Dj weapon apts by 1 (nikheizen) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4f19927427e5 11:47:14 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-749-g4f19927427 (34) 11:59:22 <10PleasingFungus> > Both kinds of contribution can be submitted on our GitHub repository, either as an issue or a pull request, if you don’t have a mantis account. If the documents seem a little old, they’ll be getting updates in the coming month. 11:59:23 <10PleasingFungus> !? 12:05:40 <12ebering> just me signing up for public shaming if I don't update some of the contrib docs 🙂 12:06:10 <10PleasingFungus> lol 12:06:26 <10PleasingFungus> tyvm for upwrite uppost 12:06:36 <10PleasingFungus> i approve of the black torch 12:06:41 <10PleasingFungus> that’s classic lore 12:07:34 <10PleasingFungus> did you have an opinion on the great dj sif/veh/kiku question? 12:08:09 <10PleasingFungus> i don’t like banning gods, but players are confused 12:08:30 <10PleasingFungus> and those gods do extremely little for dj 12:09:49 <12ebering> I would say that the wizardly triumverate should refuse them; Veh is the one possible exception since wiz and range are nice... but those alone do not a god make 12:11:17 <12ebering> also was thinking that kiku should refuse ex-ruites who sacrificed necro 12:14:29 <10PleasingFungus> heh 12:15:22 Guys, could you test how much damage character without rElec takes from monster Ball Lightning and tell if that's intended? I suspect it's not. 12:23:24 <10PleasingFungus> yermak: seems low right now? 12:23:34 yeah 12:23:47 <10PleasingFungus> hm 12:24:02 it's not right now, really, it's been like that for very long time, 12:24:17 <10PleasingFungus> sure 12:24:20 <10PleasingFungus> @??ball lightning 12:24:21 <04Cerebot> ball lightning (*) | Spd: 20 | HD: 1 | HP: 1-2 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 5 | non-living, fly, unbreathing | Res: will(invuln), fire+++, cold+++, elec+++, poison+++, drown, miasma, neg+++, torm, tornado, napalm | XP: 0 | Sz: little | Int: brainless. 12:24:24 <10PleasingFungus> oh hd 1 haha 12:24:27 <10PleasingFungus> should be... higher 12:24:49 <10PleasingFungus> i'll try to fix it later if no one else does 12:24:57 <10PleasingFungus> not sure what a good number is, depends where people use these 12:25:04 <10PleasingFungus> think there's only a few lateish vaults? 12:25:16 Lom Lobon 12:33:11 <10PleasingFungus> ah 12:33:23 <10PleasingFungus> those really should set hd 12:33:28 <10PleasingFungus> maybe they don’t 12:48:08 aand now cao is back up to nearly 6GB 12:48:44 the bzip script was running when I initially restarted everything, is it possible that its effect was that large? 13:04:56 <05kate> blocking veh and kiku for Dj seems reasonable to me, we do have precedent in blocking not-strictly-useless gods in that you can't go yred with sac love just for damage mirror and drain life 13:08:07 <08nicolae> what's changed with Dj that would require forbidding certain gods, i haven't been following much of the djinn discourse (djinncourse) lately 13:09:08 |amethyst are your ttyrecs a thing you would care about? (asking just because you're someone in the top 150 that I can easily ask) 13:09:14 <05kate> nothing's changed, they're just not able to receive spell gifts or train spell schools other than spellcasting 13:09:43 I think the only thing veh does for them is extend range? 13:09:59 <05kate> extended range and wizardry for blasty spells, yeah 13:10:10 ah right, spellpower too 13:20:16 <08nicolae> when i ask what's changed, i mean "what's different from how i remember the last implementation of djinn back in 1936, where i mostly just remember they have the same hp and mp". i didn't read all the commits from when pf put in the latest version. i guess the real question is "how do djinn do spells different from other species" 13:21:45 <05kate> ah right, i thought you just meant recent in-development changes yeah. they can't learn spells from books (or from god gifts), and automatically learn a random set of spells as they level up 13:22:33 <05kate> and can't train any spell skills, spellcasting alone covers all their spell success rates/power 13:23:50 <08nicolae> oh that's wild, are the sets of spells themed as you get levels (like are they biased towards some random spell school chosen at chargen) or is it just a random grab bag 13:23:58 <03wheals> and if they're a book start, the random set includes all spells in that book 13:24:21 <08nicolae> makes sense 13:25:45 <05kate> a random grab bag, just with restrictions on spell level so the first spells you get are l1/2 and the ones you gt at xl27 are l8/9 etc 13:27:10 <08nicolae> idea: put a chance of some discontinued spells that players want back into the grab bag so that the djinn can grant their wishes 😎 13:28:33 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.27-a0-749-g4f19927 (34) 13:37:17 <10PleasingFungus> definitely need some wish thing lurking around somewhere 13:37:22 <10PleasingFungus> even if it's only a novelty skill title 13:37:28 <10PleasingFungus> lamps also impotant 13:41:35 <10PleasingFungus> @??gnoll 13:41:36 <04Cerebot> gnoll (g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 10-16 | AC/EV: 2/9 | Dam: 6 | weapons, items, doors | Res: will(10) | Corpse | XP: 14 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:42:50 <10PleasingFungus> one gn is about 2/3rds the average xp of d:1, iirc 13:42:50 <10PleasingFungus> #gnfacts 13:44:15 <08nicolae> at xl 9, 18, 27 you get to read a scroll of acquirement 13:45:04 <10PleasingFungus> a wish come true 14:32:44 03Goratrix02 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-750-g10b8fb2: Supress a compiler warning on Windows 10(28 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/10b8fb2fd0e7 14:47:05 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-750-g10b8fb2fd0 (34) 15:14:15 <12ebering> @advil if you're around could you pin https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/mbbcip/trunk_updates_23_march_2021/ please? 16:54:19 03Aliscans02 {wheals} 07* 0.27-a0-751-g82d5626: Sort items in a shop in a more predictable order when using ORDER_DEFAULT. 10(10 days ago, 1 file, 24+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/82d5626f1fa8 17:02:27 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-751-g82d5626f1f (34) 18:04:17 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-752-gc320528: Skip permanently useless potions with Gozag petition 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c3205288ea5f 18:06:16 -!- kate-- is now known as kate- 18:17:11 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-752-gc3205288ea (34) 19:22:48 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.27-a0-752-gc3205288ea (34) 20:44:59 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-753-g5a20dcc: Fix monster Freeze damage display 10(62 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5a20dcc000e8 20:47:12 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-753-g5a20dcc000 (34) 21:05:08 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-754-g7c41658: Ban Dj from Kiku and Veh 10(69 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7c41658a7123 21:17:27 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: BTW, just noticed djinni and palentonga are switched in the manual vs charsel 21:17:27 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-754-g7c41658a71 (34) 21:18:24 !tell Yermak I talked with gammafunk for a while about CBL. We agreed we don't want monster ball lightning to do significant damage for now, silly though it is. 21:18:25 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let yermak know. 21:18:53 <10PleasingFungus> |amethyst: oops 21:19:57 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-755-gd7be909: Fix Dj/Pa manual species order (|amethyst) 10(26 seconds ago, 1 file, 26+ 26-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d7be90942dd0 21:30:46 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-756-g2394d0f: Rename ooze -> endoplasm 10(40 seconds ago, 26 files, 55+ 55-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2394d0fbd4b6 21:31:55 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-755-gd7be90942d (34) 22:04:00 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-756-g2394d0fbd4 (34) 22:12:31 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-757-gfceadbd: Clarify !attraction (Pekkekke) 10(77 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fceadbd91f79 22:17:10 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-757-gfceadbd91f (34)