00:26:04 <Cheibriados> 03Cyprian Gascoigne02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1781 * 0.27-a0-488-g1c83c13: Update crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/swamp.des 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1c83c135addf
00:26:04 <Cheibriados> 03Cyprian Gascoigne02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1781 * 0.27-a0-489-g2ad66b1: Update crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/swamp.des 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2ad66b1ecd3c
00:26:04 <Cheibriados> 03Cyprian Gascoigne02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1781 * 0.27-a0-490-g559a460: Update crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/swamp.des 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/559a4605b321
00:26:04 <Cheibriados> 03Cyprian Gascoigne02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1781 * 0.27-a0-491-ge9ee600: Update crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/swamp.des 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e9ee6006ae28
01:34:50 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-531-gb72ec1a1b6 (34)
01:56:32 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-531-gb72ec1a1b6
02:16:50 <Cbrotell> Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.27-a0-531-gb72ec1a1b6 (34)
02:22:21 <Cheibriados> 03kippig02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1781 * 0.27-a0-492-ge47e883: Added more random aesthetics, changed the guardian to be more random and added delayed decay 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 27+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e47e8839e68f
02:22:21 <Cheibriados> 03kippig02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1781 * 0.27-a0-493-gdb76de1: remove test WEIGHT 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/db76de162c66
02:28:57 <Discord|> <03w​heals> @advil because of the weird history, i hadn't realized that MUT_MIASMA_IMMUNITY actually existed anywhere besides foul stench, fwiw gargoyles are immune for yet another reason (they're nonliving)
02:30:51 <Discord|> <03w​heals> i think the mutation should just be removed, gargoyles already have a long enough mut list and other species with miasma immunity (undead) don't explicitly say so
02:43:38 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
02:54:06 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-531-gb72ec1a1b6
03:30:50 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-3944-gcf420f87c6
07:05:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
11:43:16 <advil> what is up with MUT_STOCHASTIC_TORMENT_RESISTANCE
11:43:25 <advil> well, other than it being very old
11:50:23 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> it's a mutation representing stochastic torment resistance
11:57:14 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> perhaps, not just representing stochastic torment resistance, but even conveying stochastic torment resistance
12:06:25 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> 🤔
12:06:25 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> semiotic torment resistance
12:06:37 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.27-a0-531-gb72ec1a (34)
13:27:11 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-532-gcc1c95e: Clean up miasma immunity 10(2 hours ago, 7 files, 11+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc1c95e81f0b
13:27:11 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-533-g1d33414: Remove some miasma save compat 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 24-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1d33414dbe85
13:27:11 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-534-g117a7a4: Clean up rTorment muts a bit 10(72 minutes ago, 8 files, 20+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/117a7a415130
13:31:34 <advil> oh hm maybe that save compat commit was a bit over-aggressive
13:36:36 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-535-g7eaf864: Partially revert "Remove some miasma save compat" 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7eaf864cf98e
13:46:30 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-534-g117a7a4151 (34)
13:53:43 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08master @ 7eaf864c 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/625341486
14:02:11 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-535-g7eaf864cf9 (34)
14:25:37 <Discord|> <02|​amethyst> MONS_ROLAND_BARTHES
14:26:13 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> hold on, let me hit up wikipedia real quick to see if that's funny
14:26:15 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> yeah that's a good one
14:26:25 <gammafunk> MONS_NO_MONSTER_THE_MONSTER_IS_YOU
14:26:57 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> i mean, really, those goblins were doing just fine before you came through and utterly upended their whole society
14:41:38 <Discord|> <02|​amethyst> gammafunk: reminds me of the comment in the Nethack source about why there were only three riders
14:47:02 <Discord|> <02|​amethyst> @advil You mentioned MUT_NIMBLE_SWIMMER 2-level was cleaner, but would you change your mind if I said "demonspawn facet"?
16:16:40 <G-Flex> Are there currently two different potions of degeneration? Somehow?
16:16:49 <G-Flex> I have a save file here with two potions of degeneration, but in separate inventory slots.
16:17:02 <G-Flex> I had one, possibly unID'd, then I bought another from a shop
16:17:19 <G-Flex> I want to drop them but I figured someone might want to take a look at it first
16:24:28 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> think there’s a bug where items are being id’d but not stacked together
16:24:30 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> maybe
16:24:36 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i’ve seen similar reports
16:26:16 <G-Flex> anything I should do about it, or just leave it?
16:34:45 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i have no requests
16:35:56 <G-Flex> Okay, thanks!
16:36:28 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> thank you for reporting it! and sorry for the trouble
16:37:32 <G-Flex> no trouble, easy to drop items
16:51:35 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> not sure -- as in, those muts could be part of a Ds facet?
16:59:40 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> not sure how explicit I was but the immediate alternative it seemed cleaner to me than was something like separateMUT_STEALTHY_SWIMMER (Op,Mf)  and MUT_FAST_SWIMMER (Mf)
17:02:41 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i assume |amethyst was suggesting that, now that this is a 2 level mut, it could turn into a 3 level ds swimming facet
17:02:57 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> do it
17:03:04 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> waterspawn
17:05:06 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> right, as far as internal mut coherence goes there's a huge jump between level 1 and level 2, so as a mut set on its own terms it would make more sense as a 3-level mut
17:05:33 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> not sure I'm a huge fan of the move speed bonus on level 3 going to other species though (or even necessarily on Mf)
17:05:46 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> *hypothetical level 3
17:06:40 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> sure
17:06:44 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> I just mentioned that alternative with two muts to say what meant in terms of, cleaner than what
17:07:56 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> give demonspawn a lava swimming facet
17:10:39 <Discord|> <02|​amethyst> advil: aha, I was thinking instead you meant separating the EV bonus and the speed bonus into levels 2 and 3
17:11:07 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> yeah, on its own terms that makes sense but there's no current use for the middle level
17:11:31 <Discord|> <02|​amethyst> hence giving it to demonspawn 🙂
17:16:07 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> maybe!
17:16:15 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> I don't have a good handle on ds mut balance
17:16:24 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> accurate commenting: // This only handles lava orcs going statue -> stoneskin.
17:17:10 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> next line, if (you.species == SP_GARGOYLE), in a place where I'm pretty sure that can't even be satisfied
17:17:15 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> nice
18:04:50 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> missed flavor opportunity: https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/frogs-use-their-eyes-to-push-food-down-while-swallowing
18:23:30 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.27-a0-535-g7eaf864cf9 (34)
18:54:29 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> dcss is an open source game that anyone can add to!
20:53:32 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-536-g4bdaa1e: Remove a shopless bazaar (beargit) 10(88 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4bdaa1e8bab4
21:02:12 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-536-g4bdaa1e8ba (34)
21:09:58 <dcss-ci___> 04Build failed for 08master @ 4bdaa1e8 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/626245011
21:15:09 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-537-g817a5d4: Make Swamp loud 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/817a5d48fcba
21:15:09 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-538-g15ff5c5: Quiet husks down 10(49 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/15ff5c5295f7
21:17:20 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-538-g15ff5c5295 (34)
21:29:40 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08master @ 15ff5c52 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/626282757
22:51:17 <Discord|> <08n​icolae> hm. you know, i don't think i've ever made a rune vault. i should do that.