00:06:09 <alexjurkiewicz> you want a spreadsheet
00:06:11 <alexjurkiewicz> oops
00:18:25 <aidanh> overkill for just removal stats, but there are dozens of other metrics I'd like to be able to track
01:09:52 <gammafunk> one thing that would be kind of cool is to automate objstat runs
01:10:41 <gammafunk> but it's extremely cpu intentsive for 1k iterations; I have to run a 4 core EC2 instance for 8-10 hours to make the 4 spreadsheet sets
01:10:59 <gammafunk> then I have a little google app I made to convert the tdt uploaded as zips to google sheets and do some formatting on them
01:11:50 <gammafunk> maybe someday we can move stuff to a kind of "libcrawl" so I can move objstat code out of c++ and just have it be a python script, or something
01:12:09 <gammafunk> not really related to the automation, but just would be nice
01:12:45 <gammafunk> like all the c++ side would do is create a save with a fully generated dungeon (according to the levels asked for)
01:13:18 <gammafunk> oh, well, I guess that's not quite true; said library would have to provide some kind of interface to query a save
01:14:13 <gammafunk> presumably we could also have unit tests to look for weird changes in monster/item distributions, but I'm not sure about that
01:21:48 <Lantell> Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-3054-g1a545eca1e
01:51:28 -!- behalebabo_ is now known as behalebabo
02:39:48 <aidanh> that sounds good, yeah
02:40:42 <aidanh> basically what I want is a server that can run a (commit -> [stats]) function on demand
02:43:16 <aidanh> re libcrawl, I think it's doable, but it requires detangling the ui from the rest of crawl, and moving all the global variables into a crawl_game object
02:43:51 <aidanh> moving towards more unit test coverage will naturally force us to break global dependencies; its just gonna take a while
03:25:38 -!- behalebabo_ is now known as behalebabo
03:30:52 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-3054-g1a545eca1e
03:51:53 <alexjurkiewicz> unless every commit is going to generate tens of thousands of data points, I still think those tools you mentioned is overkill
03:52:14 <alexjurkiewicz> serverless file querying is extremely powerful, cheap, and low maintenance
03:52:44 <alexjurkiewicz> https://aws.amazon.com/athena/ and https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/external-data-cloud-storage
03:54:15 <Kelbell> Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.22.1-2676-g84a05d23f6
04:37:26 <Cheibriados> 03Benoit Giannangeli02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1119 * 0.25-a0-943-g6a1d48e: New morgue section `screenshots` 10(4 minutes ago, 5 files, 34+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6a1d48e2e373
05:04:40 <Cheibriados> 03Benoit Giannangeli02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1119 * 0.25-a0-944-ge0cc68f: Compatibility tag for screenshots 10(7 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e0cc68f7bff7
05:04:40 <Cheibriados> 03Benoit Giannangeli02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1119 * 0.25-a0-945-g348ac22: One screenshot a turn limit 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/348ac222aa9d
05:33:53 <Lantell> Maedhros (L27 OpFi) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Abyss:4)
05:41:59 <bgiannan> something's up with linux builds ? they were all cancelled on my PR
05:42:47 <Cheibriados> 03Benoit Giannangeli02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1119 * 0.25-a0-945-g0cdda87: One screenshot a turn limit 10(44 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0cdda87a05b4
06:28:03 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.25-a0-943-g2f7e296: Remove a spurious semicolon 10(33 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2f7e29601aee
06:28:03 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.25-a0-944-g8d05931: Rename some static tag helper functions 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 140+ 146-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8d059310dc47
06:28:03 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.25-a0-945-gec7a518: Declare some tags functions in tags.h 10(13 minutes ago, 2 files, 20+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ec7a5183416c
06:28:03 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.25-a0-946-g6709f3f: Properly declare some map functions as static 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6709f3f1eeba
06:53:32 <aidanh> alexjurkiewicz: there are hundreds of cc and h files, and if you have a hundred different metrics, per-file tracking gets you to tens of thousands
06:54:56 <aidanh> but yeah, a simpler solution is a better place to start
06:55:39 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-946-g6709f3f1ee (34)
06:55:39 <aidanh> it's just a shame that there don't seem to be any pre-existing open source tools for this
07:08:03 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.25-a0-947-gc7cb02f: Make a map function non-static 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c7cb02f7745d
07:18:48 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-947-gc7cb02f774 (34)
07:27:16 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.25-a0-948-g643b649: Correct a unit test function call 10(79 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/643b6494703c
07:32:25 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-948-g643b649470 (34)
07:59:37 <travis-ci> The build was broken. (master - c7cb02f #13214 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/684214981
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09:18:32 <bh> yes. webtiles should use proto. along with save files
09:33:55 <Bcadren> I know I've seen people directly grep/pull up old commits in the chat here...how do you do that? (or more pertinently to what I want to see: could someone pull up when the lair branches were shortened? I want to see how it did save compat)
09:34:17 <Pinkbeast> "git -S", usually
09:44:35 <advil> !vault snake_hunt
09:44:42 <advil> oh right
09:45:11 <Bcadren> huh. well in looking for commits about shortening snake I found out that subtractor snakes were a thing. I guess they never made it into stable? (Zot unique snake that had weaken, and several other debuffs)
09:45:14 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/snake.des#L1044
09:49:14 <advil> most of the time when someone does a query here, they've done the search elsewhere
09:49:14 <advil> I usually just do it in git log
09:51:47 <Bcadren> I'm trying git log --oneline | grep [searchterm] ...but I'm having no luck looking for what I need. I can make my own solution sure, but I was wondering what mainline did. (looking for when branches were shortened; because I noticed if you just do that with no catch code...any existing down stairs that go to far go to...Zig:27 for some weird
09:51:47 <Bcadren> reason; not to mention you could be cutting off some branches by shortening the core dungeon, etc.)
09:53:36 <ebering> Bcadren: `git help grep`, git has built in grep functionality
09:54:05 <Bcadren> Yea I'm using it I found that much...just not finding what I was looking for...
10:00:10 <Pinkbeast> In this case I know they were shortened in about 0.19. I also know that branch-data.h governs branch sizes. I do "git log branch-data.h" and in the first screenful is b6148b5347da93205c40feb08e93a7904c6881eb "Shorten Slime to 5 floors" which presumably does something for save compat (if anything; perhaps if you started a game with a longer Slime, you keep it)
10:04:04 <Bcadren> 248ef00ae6 New Snake spawn lists for shorter Snake
10:29:33 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.25-a0-949-gdd2af9e: Fix a bunch of basic errors with TOUCH_UI builds 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dd2af9e06e16
10:33:04 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-949-gdd2af9e06e (34)
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11:42:50 -!- MCSizzell is now known as MikeHollisJr
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12:01:46 <advil> ebering: re miscasts, I'm not sure I like the gray/white distinction as a UI thing, and at least for some categories the white color doesn't necessarily line up intuitively with what could happen
12:02:02 <advil> I wonder if it would make sense to make "mild" yellow and adjust the other colors to follow?
12:03:17 <advil> was looking at transmut in particular so maybe I'm off base for some of the other types
12:07:24 <advil> though here's a different idea about transmut: I wonder if the duration could be scaled in a more extreme fashion so that something like a 1-2 turn polymorph would make more intuitive sense for a "mild" miscast?
12:37:25 <advil> !crashlog Maedhros
12:38:57 <Sequell> 90s limit exceeded: killed !crashlog Maedhros
12:44:26 <MikeHollisJr> where can in I find any information related to websockets so that I can properly map apache via proxy,
12:44:33 <MikeHollisJr> specific to DCSS I mean
12:46:09 <MikeHollisJr> I'm basically just guessing at the path to send the websockets to
12:54:39 <|amethyst> The websocket URL path is /socket, if that's what you're asking
12:55:21 <|amethyst> There are probably other here who have experience putting a reverse proxy in front of webtiles; I do not
12:56:01 <|amethyst> s/other/&s/
12:57:16 <ebering> yeah, the tmut miscast duration is maybe not quite right
13:00:31 <advil> maybe mild should rule out stationary forms, too?
13:00:43 <advil> though I'm not sure if those are "bad" in all circumstances
13:00:45 <MikeHollisJr> I knew that, for some reason it it isn't working, does anyone have a proxypass setup on apache that I could see your websocket lines?
13:14:51 <|amethyst> !tell alexjurkiewicz have you done reverse proxy in front of webtiles or know someone who has?  MikeHollisJr was asking about it
13:15:32 <Sequell> |amethyst: OK, I'll let alexjurkiewicz know.
13:17:41 <advil> I'm not sure many public servers do that
13:17:49 <advil> maybe underhound
13:18:48 <MikeHollisJr> I've got other things on 80 and 443, and I'd prefer not to expose the ports, while it is purely cosmetic, it doesn't feel complete to me until I'm able to get that situated
13:19:27 <MikeHollisJr> oh speaking of 443, is there something I need to change in the code if I change the domain it's running on? my ssl certs arn't working anymore (yes I'm copying the new ones into the chroot)
13:22:23 <MikeHollisJr> actually it's not the certs, the ssl port seems to be timing out
13:23:32 <MikeHollisJr> er, well at least its not the certs themselves, the new certs should be in exactly the same place the old ones were though (and the game didn't switch physical machines)
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14:01:51 <MikeHollisJr> are the websockets ws or wss? or are both supported?
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17:39:48 <MikeHollisJr> gammafunk is there a way to get cerebot (my own instance) to monitor a channel instead of through msgs?
17:41:08 <gammafunk> MikeHollisJr: what do you mean by monitor a channel? a discord channel?
17:41:13 <MikeHollisJr> irc
17:41:52 <MikeHollisJr> gammafunk, I've got all my bots in one spot except for cerebot who is antisocial,
17:42:12 <gammafunk> if you mean have it send its relays through the channel, that's sort of weird since it's a lot of channel spam
17:42:29 <gammafunk> you'd have it send its queries in the channel and recieve the answer in the channel?
17:42:52 <MikeHollisJr> I already have a discord irc relay for sizzell
17:43:17 <MikeHollisJr> so that's not a huge deal and the channel will be locked down and used only to process commands when all is said and done
17:43:43 <gammafunk> yeah, it's just not what the bot was really designed for, since it doesn't make sense for typical usage
17:43:51 <gammafunk> in any case, no, you'd have to rewrite it to do that; probably not a ton of work to do so, to be fair
17:44:00 <MikeHollisJr> okay no problem I just wanted to see if there was an option already, sounds good
17:45:53 <MikeHollisJr> any idea if sequell will ignore multiple commands in quick succession? I'm trying to get sequell to ignore my discord irc bridge, so that cerebot handles it becuase I think it's getting two commands then sequelching one (the wrong one)
17:46:48 <MikeHollisJr> actually I wonder if I could just drop cerebot at this point
17:47:07 <gammafunk> yeah, you could just bridge a sequell instance
17:47:20 <gammafunk> the main issue you'd run into is that output would not be markdowned in any way
17:47:59 <MikeHollisJr> yeah I don't think I want to go that route anyway, because cerebot handles command ownership where as the bridge doesn't
17:49:29 <gammafunk> right, I guess that's a bigger issue actually
17:53:02 <gammafunk> MikeHollisJr: I don't know about sequell ignoring, but it probably has some facility for ignoring commands based on source? maybe that never came up, so greensnark never added that functionality
17:54:21 <MikeHollisJr> it's possible, sizzell runs in ##crawl though doesn't it? maybe it's not relayed I havn't checked discord in a bit
17:55:20 <MikeHollisJr> oh actually maybe not, there hasn't been any notices recently
18:02:40 <gammafunk> MikeHollisJr: sizzell isn't an issue, since sizzel responds to different commands
18:02:59 <gammafunk> s/sizzel /sizzell /
18:04:36 <gammafunk> the bots in ##crawl(-dev) don't have a problem responding to each other, but they're set up so that they largely don't overlap in commands
18:04:39 <gammafunk> !cmd gitgrep
18:04:42 <Sequell> Command: !gitgrep => .echo $(ignore $1)$(let (n $1 s $*) (concat "%git HEAD^{/" $s "}" (repeat (concat "^^{/" $s "}") (- (int $n) 1))))
18:04:49 <gammafunk> is an example of bot-bot interaction on purpose
18:11:56 <alexjurkiewicz> |amethyst: MikeHollisJr: i've set up a reverse proxy, what's your problem?
18:12:00 <Sequell> alexjurkiewicz: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
18:13:06 <alexjurkiewicz> I use nginx, not apache
18:13:06 <MikeHollisJr> alexjurkiewicz, I can't get the websockets to forward
18:13:13 <alexjurkiewicz> non-ws requests work?
18:13:18 <MikeHollisJr> if you use apache any chance I could see your relevent lines
18:13:18 <MikeHollisJr> yes
18:14:51 <alexjurkiewicz> you should make sure the Connection and Upgrade headers are being sent through to the backend
18:15:04 <alexjurkiewicz> if connections are failing to upgrade to websockets, that's probably the cause
18:15:09 <alexjurkiewicz> in nginx, i write:
18:15:12 <alexjurkiewicz> proxy_set_header Upgrade $http_upgrade;
18:15:14 <alexjurkiewicz> proxy_set_header Connection "upgrade";
18:16:04 <alexjurkiewicz> i'll be around more later if you still have problems
18:17:50 <MikeHollisJr> I've got a bunch of other sites that run, and have been using apache for years, so I'm still with apache and these are my relevent lines which I THINK are correct https://pastebin.com/CPceC9Vh
18:24:00 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.25-a0-949-gdd2af9e06e (34)
18:55:39 <alexjurkiewicz> i think you might be a little ocnfused about how webtiles server works. You don't need to explicitly support websocket protocol, you just need to pass through the Upgrade header and ensure Connection is set (this helps get around dumb forward proxies in the wild, it's not required AIUI)
18:56:09 <alexjurkiewicz> you forward all traffic for your vhost through to the single webtiles server, which is probably listening over http on localhost
18:56:52 <alexjurkiewicz> here's my full proxy configuration
18:56:53 <alexjurkiewicz> location / {
18:56:56 <alexjurkiewicz> proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8080;
18:56:58 <alexjurkiewicz> proxy_http_version 1.1;
18:57:00 <alexjurkiewicz> proxy_set_header Upgrade $http_upgrade;
18:57:02 <alexjurkiewicz> proxy_set_header Connection "upgrade";
18:57:04 <alexjurkiewicz> proxy_set_header Host $http_host;
18:57:06 <alexjurkiewicz> proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Proto "https";
18:57:08 <alexjurkiewicz> proxy_read_timeout 7200;
18:57:10 <alexjurkiewicz> }
18:58:06 <alexjurkiewicz> my webtiles server config.py contains these lines:
18:58:09 <alexjurkiewicz> bind_address = "127.0.0.1"
18:58:11 <alexjurkiewicz> bind_port = 8080
18:58:42 <MikeHollisJr> no I know that I just need to pass it along, but if i take websockets traffic on /socket and forward it to ws://domain/socket it just says it can't  establish a websocket connection, or something similar, but if I add the port and ignore the proxy it works fine
18:59:16 <MikeHollisJr> and thank you for that, I'll see if I can tranlsate it
18:59:17 <alexjurkiewicz> you don't need to do anything about forwarding /socket specially
19:00:01 <gammafunk> doesn't websocket work via normal http(s) port and issue some kind of command to turn the connection into a websocket?
19:00:05 <alexjurkiewicz> webtiles server can be treated like any other backend service that listens on http. The only difference is you need to ensure Connection and Upgrade headers are set on the requests sent through to it
19:00:08 <gammafunk> so yeah, you'd not need any special support for that
19:00:15 <alexjurkiewicz> that's right, gammafunk
19:00:45 <MikeHollisJr> then I'm completely at a loss
19:10:21 <MikeHollisJr> this is my complete virtualhost, you can tell I've been experimenting with things half of it is commented out, https://pastebin.com/cQCKin11  but connecting with that config I get "WebSocket connection to 'ws://localhost:8180/socket' failed: Error in connection establishment: net::ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED" Now if undo the proxy and use a redirect, it works.
19:13:21 <MikeHollisJr> comment out 48 & 49, and uncomment 46 and it works
19:18:42 <MikeHollisJr> but also doing that I have the port number visible which I'm not crazy about
19:19:30 <MikeHollisJr> I don't want people to have a reminder to go looking for more services
19:24:56 <alexjurkiewicz> well, the site seems to work for me
19:24:58 <alexjurkiewicz> I can start a game
19:26:19 <MikeHollisJr> I had a redirect on 80 to 8180, instaed of proxying
19:26:28 <MikeHollisJr> give me one sec to put it the other way
19:27:27 <MikeHollisJr> ok reverted, make sure the intial request is on 80 rather than 8180 and you'll see what it's doing
19:31:13 <MikeHollisJr> alexjurkiewicz, connect on 80 and it should break, yet bypass the proxy and connect to 8180 and it'll work the way I've got it configured now
19:34:51 <MikeHollisJr> ??options
19:34:51 <Sequell> rcfile[1/4]: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/options_guide.txt
19:43:10 <alexjurkiewicz> sorry, not around for a few hours
19:43:57 <MikeHollisJr> no worries, thank you for your input though, I'm going to bring the site back online for now
20:16:31 <twelwe> those bastard scientists in the US made Formicid a registered trademark for ant killer
20:17:26 <twelwe> on more phd level research, its the EU not US. so its 0-1 for them but they could own you guys bigtime if they enforce their trademarks like the popsicle corp
23:22:03 <gammafunk> advil: wasn't TOUCH_UI added specifically for android support, which I presume is still defunct
23:22:58 <gammafunk> yeah, looks like was added with the initial android port by frogbotherer
23:42:54 <AJTJ> heya, how do I get involved with the development of crawl?
23:43:13 <ebering> chat in this channel ;)
23:43:36 <ebering> we've got detailed info on our github page, one sec the bot will pull up the link
23:43:39 <ebering> ??patch
23:43:40 <Sequell> patch[1/2]: For details about how to discuss and submit a patch or pull request, see: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/develop/contribution-process.md
23:43:47 <ebering> that's the long form guide
23:43:51 <ebering> ??repo
23:43:52 <Sequell> github[1/1]: The site that hosts the crawl git repository at https://github.com/crawl/crawl
23:44:01 <ebering> the readme.md has the section "how to help"
23:44:38 <ebering> I will at some point soon in the development cycle post a devblog post identifying good low hanging fruit bugs if you're not sure where to start
23:46:05 <AJTJ> ebering: oh thanks
23:46:17 <AJTJ> I've been playing off and on for years and I figured I'd really like to help out
23:47:51 <AJTJ> ebering: so, following the devblog is a good place to learn about low hanging fruit bugs?
23:48:09 <AJTJ> Seems like the kind of thing to start with, for sure.
23:48:56 <AJTJ> where do I find the devblog?
23:49:00 <ebering> AJTJ: well, it isn't usually, but I'm planning to make a post soon specifically about that
23:49:19 <ebering> http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/
23:52:32 <alexjurkiewicz> this might be a good low hanging fruit bug? https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/1385
23:56:20 <ebering> that one's actually a flavor bug
23:56:20 <ebering> tarantellas bite is AF_CONFUSE and not resisted by any form of poison resistance or immunity
23:56:24 <ebering> @??tarantella
23:56:24 <Gretell> tarantella (13s) | Spd: 15 | HD: 8 | HP: 24-33 | AC/EV: 3/14 | Dam: 1913(confuse) | web sense | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 09poison | XP: 214 | Sz: small | Int: animal.
23:57:23 <AJTJ> is there a lead developer for crawl?
23:57:32 <ebering> no
23:57:46 <ebering> everyone with +v in the channel has commit access to the repo
23:57:52 <ebering> but there is no formal "head"
23:58:05 <AJTJ> huh, is there a core team?
23:58:08 <gammafunk> yes
23:58:11 <gammafunk> ??credits
23:58:12 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled credits in my learndb.
23:58:14 <gammafunk> er
23:58:22 <gammafunk> the CREDITS.txt file lists the dev team
23:58:29 <ebering> !source CREDITS.txt
23:58:29 <gammafunk> anyone in this channel with voice is on the dev team
23:58:40 <gammafunk> I swear we had an entry for it already
23:58:45 <gammafunk> ??dev team
23:58:49 <Sequell> dev team ~ devteam[1/27]: Official list: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/CREDITS.txt | Dev Wiki page: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:admin:devteam
23:58:53 <gammafunk> there we go
23:59:04 <Sequell> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/contrib/sdl2/CREDITS.txt
23:59:10 <AJTJ> ah cool, so its just open source and community built then? Anyone been here since the beginning?
23:59:11 <gammafunk> !learn add credits https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/CREDITS.txt
23:59:21 <Sequell> credits[1/1]: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/CREDITS.txt
23:59:33 <AJTJ> how did crawl start?
23:59:40 <gammafunk> well, the founding devs aren't active, although greensnark wrote Sequell and maintains it
23:59:44 <gammafunk> see this post
23:59:57 <gammafunk> http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/the-dawn-of-stone-soup