02:09:06 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.25-a0-356-g7c9d860
02:48:26 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-443-g80245de
03:11:51 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.25-a0-356-g7c9d860 (34)
03:32:06 <Kelbell> Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.22.1-1919-g70dc8bcef7
06:00:22 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
10:28:48 <ebering> https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/ejcto3/cheibriados_tattoo_ideas/
11:22:56 <Lantell> Stable (0.23) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23.1-91-gf373564dc4
12:10:05 <Cheibriados> 03Emily02 {kate-} 07* 0.25-a0-357-g7e26dd5: Remove the Regeneration spell 10(4 weeks ago, 19 files, 29+ 89-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7e26dd5d7586
12:10:05 <Cheibriados> 03kate-02 07* 0.25-a0-358-g9e2f79d: Don't make Trog's Hand increase passive hunger rate 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 1+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9e2f79d0c62e
12:10:05 <Cheibriados> 03kate-02 07* 0.25-a0-359-g9f54f11: Fix spacing 10(52 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9f54f116a772
12:11:45 <ebering> kate-: nice
12:16:28 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.25-a0-360-g05e59b5: Reveal floor traps when magic mapping (12167) 10(21 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/05e59b54bc00
12:37:38 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
12:42:17 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.25-a0-361-g519431e: Fedhas protects plants from Ignite Poison (12161) 10(39 seconds ago, 1 file, 12+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/519431ee42cb
13:02:10 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-359-g9f54f116a7 (34)
13:19:33 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-361-g519431ee42 (34)
15:48:15 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
15:50:09 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1250 * 0.25-a0-363-g0e28135: Update msys2 Python instructions (Goratrix) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0e28135495f1
16:05:04 <ebering> Hey team, I'm going to tweak the repo to disable open commenting on the commits before things get out of hand
16:05:25 <ebering> If possible I will limit it to contributors since occasional nice feedback comes in via that chaannel
16:11:45 <ebering> hm, seems like this feature can't be disabled
16:11:45 <ebering> only github wide locks :/
16:11:53 <ebering> it also seems someone already moderated the comment
16:12:59 <kate-> ah i was wondering why i had a seemingly blank notification on github
16:14:04 <kate-> i guess someone got to it quickly then yeah, github comments on commits have always seemed very rare to me even for stuff that people complain about a lot elsewhere
16:15:42 <kate-> oh we can lock the individual conversation if needed, also
16:15:54 <ebering> yeah
16:26:24 <Cheibriados> 03Nikolai Lavsky02 {ebering} 07* 0.25-a0-362-g90ccd6a: Fix an information leak about Mara and rakshasa clones 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 15+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/90ccd6aac3cd
16:33:56 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-362-g90ccd6aac3 (34)
17:36:21 <alexjurkiewicz> controversial pr incomin
17:37:36 <ebering> close without comment before the fights start
17:41:33 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/1251 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1251
17:41:33 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1251 * 0.25-a0-363-g0f0d85e: Re-add Regeneration spell with tweaks 10(35 minutes ago, 19 files, 87+ 26-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0f0d85e92cd9
17:51:18 <alexjurkiewicz> I also think this makes regeneration like a little brother (sister?) to borg's revivification
17:51:49 <alexjurkiewicz> regen gives you regen at the cost of temporary rot. borg's gives you all your hp at the cost of permanent rot
18:23:49 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.25-a0-362-g90ccd6aac3 (34)
18:33:01 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
19:05:46 <kate-> fwiw rot-on-cast had been brought up as a potential regen downside previously, i think that works a lot better for borg where you can do a more substantial downside with the strong effect though
19:06:40 <kate-> especially with rotting being like, something more of a consumable tax
20:20:07 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.25-a0-363-gbb0aff5: Prevent allies from swapping with foxfire (12153) 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bb0aff56fe3b
20:20:07 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.25-a0-364-ge76b031: Don't trigger ball lightning and foxfire on firewood (pblur, 12154) 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 8+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e76b031baf53
20:33:57 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-364-ge76b031baf (34)
20:56:17 <alexjurkiewicz> it's a nice tradeoff IMO. Heal a bit now instantly with ?curing or more over time and then unrot with ?curing
20:56:45 <alexjurkiewicz> It certainly makes the spell much more situational. You wouldn't cast it very often in a game. And that's an unusual spot for a low level spell to be in dccss
21:37:43 <gammafunk> I think one issue with it is that you want to cast this spell more and more towards the end of the game
21:37:57 <gammafunk> so it's a low-level spell you'd be using a lot more in endgame
21:39:23 <gammafunk> not just due to stockpiling !curing (you can tell alex doesn't play console :), where you could be using more of that throughout the earlier, more dangerous parts of game and might actually end up with not that much due to this spell
21:39:48 <gammafunk> but also because the rot cost is proportionally less and less of your mhp
21:40:51 <gammafunk> it's not a terrible proposal, but it sort of feels like it's probably wanting to be a higher level spell to some degree
21:41:19 <gammafunk> I'm not particularly attached to regen and would love to see a more decisive charms reform, which re-adding this spell might get in the way of to some degree
21:41:27 <gammafunk> we might be able to just find more interesting effects+tradeoffs
21:41:38 <gammafunk> but that said, we don't have a definitive charms reform proposal
22:04:25 <alexjurkiewicz> yeah, that's true. You would want to keep this spell up for most of the orb run for example
22:06:10 <alexjurkiewicz> sdy suggests statrot. Which I didnt' like at first (too easy to pay the cost). But if the rot is high enough...
22:06:23 <alexjurkiewicz> it does get around the issue of rotting that it matters less towards the end
22:58:22 <ebering> contam as a brake on haste didn't work so well, it was still too good
23:00:17 <ebering> the int loss on XXX doesn't matter all that much;
23:08:15 <Bcadren> Brain Feed is deadly to berserkers because int is a dumpstat. The int loss on XXX is negligible because things casting it will have focused Int super heavily...now if XXX drained Str (assuming that's a summoner's dump stat) it might be riskier? (Just a thought)