01:37:45 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.25-a0-265-g7af84ae (34)
02:08:55 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.25-a0-265-g7af84ae
02:58:41 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-443-g80245de
03:12:55 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.25-a0-265-g7af84ae (34)
03:30:54 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-2777-g6b872f2bae
05:21:14 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
10:39:37 <advil> ebering: thanks! that looks good
10:40:01 <advil> one thing I've learned from watching all these discussion is how few people knew how to use even old cflame
11:23:04 <Lantell> Stable (0.23) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23.1-91-gf373564dc4
12:05:22 <ebering> advil: heh yeah
14:01:41 <advil> "Terence the shock serpent (glowing shapeshifter)"
14:01:41 <advil> can xom effects turn a unique into a shapeshifter??
14:01:51 <advil> I've seen it happen for named orcs, so I guess maybe it's possible
14:03:02 <advil> Sigmund the swamp dragon (glowing shapeshifter)
14:03:09 <advil> sounds like a rough way to go
14:03:50 <geekosaur> Xom can and does do that, yes
14:03:59 <advil> https://crawl.kelbi.org/crawl/morgue/Skeletonkrew/morgue-Skeletonkrew-20191014-035834.txt <- this one doesn't have xom
14:04:12 <advil> maybe there was a chaos cloud
14:04:23 <advil> oh g - +2 dagger (chaos)
14:04:31 <geekosaur> yes
14:04:38 <geekosaur> just saw that one
14:05:51 <advil> !learn add chaos Sigmund the glowing shapeshifter changes into a swamp dragon!
14:05:51 <Sequell> chaos[2/2]: Sigmund the glowing shapeshifter changes into a swamp dragon!
14:06:26 <advil> !learn add chaos_brand Sigmund the glowing shapeshifter changes into a swamp dragon!
14:06:26 <Sequell> chaos brand[19/19]: Sigmund the glowing shapeshifter changes into a swamp dragon!
14:06:31 <advil> !learn del chaos[2
14:06:32 <Sequell> Deleted chaos[2/2]: Sigmund the glowing shapeshifter changes into a swamp dragon!
14:07:30 <advil> !learn set chaos_brand[19 You hit something. Sigmund appears out of thin air! Reactivating autopickup. Sigmund the glowing shapeshifter changes into a swamp dragon!
14:07:31 <Sequell> chaos brand[19/19]: You hit something. Sigmund appears out of thin air! Reactivating autopickup. Sigmund the glowing shapeshifter changes into a swamp dragon!
14:15:17 <gammafunk> what's the max hd thing siggy could turn into?
14:15:35 <gammafunk> oh I guess glowing shapeshifter is pretty up there already
14:15:38 <gammafunk> @?glowing shapeshifter
14:15:39 <Gretell> glowing shapeshifter (06m) | Spd: 7-18 | HD: 10 | HP: 16-83 | AC/EV: 5/7 | Dam: 1212(drown) | 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(80), 12drown | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 531 | Sp: (random) | Sz: Medium | Int: human.
14:15:45 <gammafunk> oh nm those don't have much hd after all
14:35:42 <advil> not sure if @? represent hd for shapeshifters correctly
14:36:12 <advil> glowing shapeshifters can be e.g. juggernauts depending on the rolls
14:36:36 <advil> no idea how initial hd would be set on the chaos shapeshifter effect with sigmund as a starting point though
14:37:04 <advil> may not really be based on the base monster?
15:17:24 <gammafunk> advil: it might be just a special chance for a polymorph to turn a monster into a regular/glowing shapeshifter, yeah, but if it happens like for other monsters, then the base hd would be relevant, I think
15:17:31 <KurzedMetal> I think I found something weird that could be considered a minor targetting bug: Poisonous Vapours don't let you cast it over skeletons, but I have Ignite Poison, so I actually wanted to try vapour+ignite for fire clouds
15:18:39 <gammafunk> wow, discord has been down a while now
15:19:06 <KurzedMetal> it is gamma, they an have issue with google services
15:20:23 <KurzedMetal> And if the Vapours not working on skeletons is intended, trying to cycle targets (or picking initial target) with Poisonous Vapours goes over skeletons, which doesn't make much sense (can't remember if other spells behave like this)
15:21:12 <KurzedMetal> I think they don't let you even get to targetting if there's no valid target around (with z), Vapours actually does
15:21:29 <KurzedMetal> but still don't let you generate the cloud if the target is a skeleton
15:22:09 <KurzedMetal> IDK, I find all that a bit weird
16:13:17 <advil> satisfying despite being somewhat pointless: I've been rewriting the db loading stuff in cao scoring to use bulk inserts and deletes, and I'm so far at a 7x speedup
16:20:44 <advil> of course some of that now depends on caching in a way it didn't before, so who knows (yet) if it will translate to the full scoring db
16:24:28 <advil> but loading my test set of cko trunk, cjr trunk, cjr 0.20 used to take me 20+ minutes, now it takes 3 minutes
16:26:05 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
16:26:05 <advil> and I'm not even done!
16:26:41 <bh> gammafunk: and it's still out
16:27:23 <gammafunk> bh: I blame you because apparently it's a google cloud outage!!! fix it!!!!!!
16:27:29 <gammafunk> advil: nice
16:28:13 <bh> gammafunk: blame zannick
16:28:29 <gammafunk> adding some names to my blame.txt file
16:29:41 <Zannick> git blame
16:35:00 <advil> of course, db loading code that works this way is very much not simpler, but at least when I introduce bugs it'll be possible to do a full reload much more easily!
17:40:40 <Cheibriados> For alive vampires, flay status light is greyed out as if ineffective 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12147 by vt
18:23:06 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.25-a0-265-g7af84ae0ac (34)
18:38:16 <Henzell> DeForestationKelley (L13 VpVM) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Lair:2)
18:41:08 <advil> !crashlog
18:41:29 <Sequell> 21478. DeForestationKelley, XL13 VpVM, T:11687 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/DeForestationKelley/crash-DeForestationKelley-20191207-233815.txt
19:01:51 <gammafunk> advil: I'm adding some things to the changelog that will likely just get mentioned in the 0.24.1 changelog, but mentioning this to you if you end up writing the point release changelog
19:02:04 <gammafunk> so you can feel free to remove those from the trunk portion of the changelog
19:02:47 <gammafunk> not sure if we're waiting on much before making 0.24.1 aside from assembling a new set of ghosts and some cherry-picking
22:08:35 <ebering> hm. looking at spl-miscast.cc
22:10:47 <ebering> this will be another big project
22:16:54 <gammafunk> are you hopting to reform miscasts in general?
22:26:41 <ebering> well, I'd like spell miscasts to be simplified
22:26:53 <ebering> but looking at the code it is in dire need of a refactor
22:27:46 <ebering> since a lot of things that aren't spell miscasts have been shoehorned into it
22:35:38 <gammafunk> yeah
22:40:34 <ebering> there also seem to be a bunch of vestigal references to miscasting in attack.cc and its children
22:40:34 <ebering> but as best I can tell the miscast_level is never set to one where it would trigger?
22:42:17 <ebering> ah
22:42:26 <ebering> I removed it when I merged alexjurkiewicz chaos patch
22:42:51 <gammafunk> doesn't happen with spellbinder?
22:43:02 <gammafunk> guess that would live in the artefact effect header
22:43:27 <ebering> yes, spellbinder, plutonium sword, and curses ask for their own miscasts elsewhere