00:12:47 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.24-a0-249-g2af7e83 (34)
00:14:07 <Eksell> Stable (0.23) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.23.1-49-g05433c6
01:37:57 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-249-g2af7e83 (34)
02:08:28 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-249-g2af7e83
02:59:23 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-249-g2af7e83
03:22:52 -!- TAS-2012v is now known as TAS_2012v
03:30:52 <Kelbell> Stable (0.23) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23.1-49-g05433c6f1a
04:59:01 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
06:01:13 <Cheibriados> Constriction can continue when Bai Suzhen changes form from normal to giant size. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11954 by NormalPerson7
09:41:46 <advil> well this is weird:
09:41:51 <advil> Something appears at your feet!
09:41:52 <advil> l - 12 scrolls of identify
09:41:52 <advil> Attempting to shaft player.
09:41:52 <advil> You fall through a shaft!
09:42:07 <advil> definitely no movement actions or tiles revealed
09:42:41 <advil> As you read the scroll of identify, it crumbles to dust.
09:42:41 <advil> j - the ring of Symmetry {+Fly rPois rF+ Str+7}
09:42:41 <advil> You stumble into a teleport trap!
09:42:48 <advil> what is going on
09:56:15 <advil> oh man
10:01:56 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-250-g6074511: Initialize `you.trapped` to false 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6074511092ad
10:05:36 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[stone_soup-0.23] * 0.23.2-1-ga50397a: Initialize `you.trapped` to false 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a50397a6bc34
10:10:13 <advil> lol I think that what I said in the commit message is too weak: if you.trapped was true it skipped the roll and just did the trap effect
10:10:23 <advil> which maybe pushes that bug toward the "epic" class
10:15:36 <advil> though it's still pretty situation specific, I haven't managed to get it to happen on cbro yet
10:17:32 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-250-g6074511092 (34)
10:49:58 <Cheibriados> New branch created: gauntlet_mons_notele (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/gauntlet_mons_notele
10:49:58 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[gauntlet_mons_notele] * 0.24-a0-251-g589571c: Prevent monsters from using emergency tele in gauntlet 10(4 minutes ago, 6 files, 17+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/589571c27036
10:50:34 <advil> ^ on a branch because I didn't want ot merge it without checking with gammafunk
11:00:43 <Cheibriados> 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1030 * 0.24-a0-244-g7bba9a5: Generate job data from yaml files 10(4 days ago, 35 files, 1094+ 383-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7bba9a546bb8
11:00:43 <Cheibriados> 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1030 * 0.24-a0-245-g7055efc: Generate job groups on the character selection screen from yaml files 10(3 days ago, 30 files, 139+ 158-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7055efc2cf3a
11:00:43 <Cheibriados> 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1030 * 0.24-a0-246-g0760d71: Add documentation for background creation using yaml files 10(3 days ago, 3 files, 36+ 123-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0760d71e0bc2
11:00:43 <Cheibriados> 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1030 * 0.24-a0-247-ge9bf5a9: Move weapon_choice and job_def definitions out of job-data.h 10(3 days ago, 4 files, 35+ 24-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e9bf5a910527
11:00:43 <Cheibriados> 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1030 * 0.24-a0-248-g34fa9d0: Convert weapon_choice to an enum class and abstract the yaml field 10(3 days ago, 18 files, 41+ 41-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/34fa9d0025d0
11:00:43 <Cheibriados> 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1030 * 0.24-a0-249-gd90d05a: Move some common functions out of job-gen and species-gen 10(9 minutes ago, 3 files, 85+ 129-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d90d05af00a8
11:22:36 <Lantell> Stable (0.23) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23.1-50-ga50397a6bc
11:41:39 <freelikegnu> hello!  I'm having trouble building crawl from github with tiles, without tiles builds fine: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mgMy3cY82W/   thank you!
11:53:56 <NP7> I'm not certain, but I think this is caused by not having the submodules installed correctly
11:54:32 <NP7> so freelikegnu, I think you can fix it by running `git submodule update`
11:55:37 <NP7> this is assuming you're using git
12:01:21 <freelikegnu> thanks I had installed submodules prior to compilation and `git submodule update
12:01:28 <freelikegnu> returns nothing
12:02:19 <freelikegnu> anyways I did the needful: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/1032
12:09:45 <|amethyst> freelikegnu:  hm, so you have libsdl2-dev and libsdl2-image-dev, but
12:10:26 <|amethyst> freelikegnu:  it's using  -isystem /usr/local/include/SDL2  which sounds like you have *another* copy of SDL2 installed under /usr/local
12:10:36 <|amethyst> freelikegnu:  and you probably don't have SDL2-image installed there
12:11:48 <freelikegnu> in the pastbin is wha tI have installed, I only have my distros dev libs
12:12:26 <freelikegnu> but I'll investigate that lead
12:12:27 <|amethyst> what does   pkg-config --cflags sdl2   say?
12:12:54 <freelikegnu> $ pkg-config --cflags sdl2
12:12:54 <freelikegnu> -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/SDL2
12:14:45 <freelikegnu> ls -lra /usr/local/ | grep SDL
12:14:50 <freelikegnu> returns nothing
12:17:42 <|amethyst> hmm
12:17:54 <|amethyst> what about:  pkg-config --variable pcfiledir sdl2
12:48:39 <freelikegnu> /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig
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13:07:16 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.24-a0-250-g6074511 (34)
13:09:19 <advil> gammafunk: is disabling monster tele (just tele) in gauntlet ok with you?
13:09:19 <advil> %git 589571c
13:09:19 <Cheibriados> 07advil02 * 0.24-a0-251-g589571c: Prevent monsters from using emergency tele in gauntlet 10(2 hours ago, 6 files, 17+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/589571c27036
13:09:25 <advil> it's on a branch right now
13:11:29 <freelikegnu> |amethyst: pkg-config --variable pcfiledir sdl2
13:11:29 <freelikegnu> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig
13:11:46 <freelikegnu> $ pkg-config --cflags sdl2
13:11:46 <freelikegnu> -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/SDL2
13:11:50 <|amethyst> freelikegnu:  awesome, try building crawl now
13:15:43 <freelikegnu> w00t!
13:16:43 <gammafunk> advil: I guess there's no problem with it, but I don't think we apply those sorts of effects for monsters elsewhere, do we?
13:16:54 <gammafunk> I guess the only instance would be monsters getting delayed teleports under Orb
13:17:12 <gammafunk> which maybe they actually do have those, but I assumed not
13:17:37 <freelikegnu> thank you |amethyst !
13:18:20 <gammafunk> I guess I don't see any major problem with disallowing monster teleport in gauntlets though
13:18:52 <gammafunk> something like the teleport other spell should probably prevent the player from casting it
13:19:19 <gammafunk> that might be the only UI issue; I guess there's also high level tloc spells like dispersal/disjunction
13:19:22 <gammafunk> ??dispersal
13:19:23 <Sequell> dispersal[1/3]: Spell: All monsters that are adjacent to you will be instantly teleported away if they don't resist (via magic resistance). If a monster does resist, it will be blinked instead (even if it's immune!). Does not work on -TELE enemies such as statues.
13:20:01 <NP7> ??disjunction
13:20:01 <Sequell> disjunction[1/2]: Level 8 translocation spell; for a few turns, blinks or teleports stuff that's near you to be less near you
13:20:01 <gammafunk> those still do something to monsters who can't tele so it should be fine
13:20:23 <gammafunk> I specifically allowed monsters to tele when I made guantlets because I figured that it's fine they cheat
13:21:28 <gammafunk> but if other devs feel it helps for clarity and whatnot, don't see a problem with changing that
13:33:01 <floraline> does anyone know if webtiles supports banning users the dgl way?
13:33:35 <floraline> or any way
13:37:55 <floraline> someone signed up with an obscene username, i set their flags to 2 in the userdb but i believe webtiles doesn't check for this
13:38:17 <floraline> i'll look into it later today and you will maybe see a PR from me
13:38:27 <|amethyst> floraline:  you could just change their password
13:38:59 <|amethyst> I didn't even realise that flag existed
13:39:29 <freelikegnu> hmm I seem to be miss tiles for the web server http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/webserver/README does not mention wher I can find them
13:39:48 <gammafunk> tiles?
13:40:23 <freelikegnu> INFO: Webtiles server started! (PID: 12435)
13:40:23 <freelikegnu> 2019-04-13 10:29:42,098 ERROR: Could not open static file '/home/rachael/crawl/crawl-ref/source/webserver/static/title_baconkid_duvessa_dowan.png'
13:40:38 <gammafunk> those should be installed as part of the make install
13:40:50 <freelikegnu> apparently not :P
13:41:24 <gammafunk> well they are; did you do a webtiles build?
13:41:24 <gammafunk> that is, did you even build the tiles?
13:41:24 <|amethyst> you haven't done an install, have you?
13:41:24 <floraline> thanks |amethyst i will do that, i'll have to remove the email then since i have password reset enabled
13:41:24 <|amethyst> that looks like the source directory
13:41:26 <freelikegnu> oh perhaps I did not :*
13:41:55 <freelikegnu> no I have not done install
13:42:34 <|amethyst> hm, though I thought make webtiles  would copy the files
13:42:53 <|amethyst> (within the source directory, from dat/tiles to webserver/static)
13:43:10 <freelikegnu> oh I have to $ make webtiles    ?
13:43:22 <|amethyst> what did you run?
13:43:35 <freelikegnu> $ make TILES=y
13:43:47 <freelikegnu> oh duh I'm I dummy
13:43:49 <gammafunk> that's local tiles, not webtiles
13:43:57 <freelikegnu> I see in the README now :P
13:44:06 <gammafunk> :D
13:44:10 <freelikegnu> very sorry
13:44:42 <|amethyst> no worries
13:45:31 * freelikegnu is typical ubuntu hipster... using ubuntu since 2004 and still cannot follow instructions
13:50:19 <advil> gammafunk: that commit still allows blinking and the blinking component of dispersal
13:50:55 <freelikegnu> woohoo it works!
13:50:55 <advil> I have no problem with monsters cheating, but it's the minotaur becoming inaccessible that seems like the problem to me
13:51:04 <advil> I guess one could just special case the mino
13:52:06 <gammafunk> advil: well it's not really different than the player banishing the minotaur or drowning it or whatnot
13:52:26 <advil> well, the player has no control over it and it's really random depending on if the mino has a scroll
13:52:57 <gammafunk> yeah, but I'd say that's sort of the way things are in general with monters using scrolls/potions like that
13:53:02 <advil> incidentally your notele idea would also potentially fix this (if monster tele respects notele, which I'm not 100% sure of)
13:53:03 <gammafunk> my only concern was maybe clarity to the user (e.g. the UI issue of tele other), but if people feel it's clearer if monsters can't teleport that's fine
13:54:20 <gammafunk> you could certainly have a monster read a teleport scroll in a normal level and end up somewhere they player couldn't reach, for example
13:54:40 <advil> er, where?
13:54:42 <gammafunk> probably there is a fundamental issue with monsters using consumables like that, if randomness and lack of player agency is the general issue
13:55:00 <gammafunk> just to some area where the player doesn't have flight; or if as you suggest, they don't respect no_tele_into
13:55:19 <gammafunk> in which case they could land in a teleport closet
13:55:28 <gammafunk> I want to say that they probably do respect no_tele_into though
13:55:55 <advil> I think it must, but something when I was doing that commit gave me second thoughts
13:56:07 <advil> I can't remember ever seeing a monster in a tele closet though
13:56:43 <gammafunk> they certainly still generate in them sometimes
13:56:56 <gammafunk> that one like 4x4 water closet vault with transparent walls
13:57:27 <advil> hm maybe I have seen that occasionally
13:58:53 <gammafunk> But I am only going into any detail here to argue for consistency with other places in the game and am against reasoning along the lines of "this specific monsters using this consumable in a  gauntlet is bad" since it's probably the case that we should change monster consumable useage more generally if that is true (E.g. don't let monsters read teleport); I'm fine with disallowing teleport if people
13:58:59 <gammafunk> feel it's clearer to the player
13:59:04 <gammafunk> but it should be done for all  monsters for sure
13:59:24 <freelikegnu> 
13:59:34 <gammafunk> re: the no_tele_into thing in gautnlets, ebering proposed that originally, and the only thing I don't like about it is how the player can't really know it exists
13:59:58 <gammafunk> *gauntlets
14:00:40 <gammafunk> We could possibly give the player a notification when they enter that all teleports bring them close to the minotaur
14:00:45 <gammafunk> but it's a little awkward to say that
14:01:28 <advil> I still think that (unless no_tele_into is buggy) there's something different about gauntlets, in that parts of it are fundamentally inaccessible without shatter to the player at different times. Probably the ideal would be if tele worked but never took the monster outside what is currently accessible to the player?
14:01:46 <advil> water/lava is one thing but there is flight
14:02:06 <advil> that ideal seems really finicky to implement
14:02:48 <gammafunk> yeah, temporary accessibility seems a difficult thing to control for
14:03:42 <gammafunk> it's true that gauntlets have the change in accessiblity thing as you progress, but then again they are temporary portals in the first place
14:03:48 <gammafunk> so I guess I don't necessarilly see that as a problem
14:04:28 <gammafunk> it's even part of the intentional design of the portal; you can't go back to those other places where the monsters are, so you could argue that the mino teleport thing is thematically appropriate, I guess
14:04:48 <advil> that's the argument I'm trying to make
14:05:02 <advil> part of it
14:05:17 <gammafunk> well by mino teleport thing, I mean the fact that the mino can teleport away from you and be gone forever, so to speak
14:05:58 <gammafunk> but yeah, this is pretty subtle; I do think probably monsters using consumables or having emergency teleport is maybe the deeper issue, but it's ok if you want to add the no tele for monsters
14:06:09 <gammafunk> the only issue I can think of is the UI for teleport other
14:06:36 <gammafunk> perhaps the spell should just be disabled like golubria in guantlets?
14:06:47 <gammafunk> talking about player teleport other
14:11:28 <freelikegnu> ..now grinding away on webtiles compile on my little linode ^^
14:11:59 <Pinkbeast> freelikegnu: FWIW I found ccache a great boon
14:13:01 <NP7> I didn't think monsters read teleport
14:13:30 <NP7> I don't ever recall seeing a monster read teleport, anyhow
14:13:47 <|amethyst> it will only do that if it is caught, fleeing, or pacified
14:14:21 <|amethyst> (and meets the requirements for reading a scroll in the first place)
14:14:42 <|amethyst> // Yes, there is a logic to this ordering {dlb}:
14:14:51 <|amethyst> "But damned if I'm going to tell you what it is"
14:14:59 <gammafunk> nice
14:15:06 <gammafunk> monsters teleporting at all is one of those things that likely shouldn't exist, as I can't think of any really interesting (as opposed to merely annoying) instances of it
14:15:20 <gammafunk> but changing that involves change a few things, including distortion ego
14:18:52 <MarvinPA> i think making monsters in general not use blink/tele in emergencies would better than having that be guantlet-specific
14:19:48 <MarvinPA> since in practice that's a super rare occurence anyway that just makes cause fear etc have a weird hidden side-effect
14:20:52 <freelikegnu> Pinkbeast: welp this is the first build on the server but I will install ccache as I will no doubt be futzing with things and updating
14:21:08 <MarvinPA> letting you lose the minotaur with teleport other spell or a distortion weapon seems fine though
14:23:19 <gammafunk> right, I do agree with those points
14:24:23 <gammafunk> I wonder if monsters could ever read fear in emergencies and thus Fear the player
14:24:31 <gammafunk> seems like a thing that could have happened at one point in crawl history
14:30:56 <minqmay> do monsters still zap wands more often when they're confused?
14:33:09 <MarvinPA> %git 2f2b14e4cc6
14:33:09 <Cheibriados> 07MarvinPA02 * 0.20-a0-436-g2f2b14e: Don't let monsters zap wands while confused (#10876) 10(2 years, 3 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2f2b14e4cc60
14:33:56 <MarvinPA> it doesn't look like it before that commit either, but maybe they did at some point earlier than that?
14:51:55 <freelikegnu> hmm the crawl server runs and I can register and login, start the game but I only see some floor tiles and entrance and the minimap. I find these errors: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KtpTcK8Z6d/
14:52:10 <freelikegnu> looks like I missed something again
14:55:08 <freelikegnu> python is already the newest version (2.7.15~rc1-1).
14:55:08 <freelikegnu> python-tornado is already the newest version (4.5.3-1).
15:13:35 <freelikegnu> I'm really stumped as it works fine with localhost on my local machine but I get errors on the remote machine
15:15:12 <geekosaur> this makes me wonder if it could stat the file to get the size, but can't read it
15:15:54 <geekosaur> hm, alhtough that would imply a different setup when remote, so probably not
15:22:00 -!- aidanh_ is now known as aidanh
15:24:36 <Lantell> MarvinPA (L27 DsAr) ASSERT(attacker) in 'attack.cc' at line 354 failed. (Pan)
15:24:42 <MarvinPA> hm
15:24:48 <MarvinPA> !crashlog
15:25:07 <Sequell> 20772. MarvinPA, XL27 DsAr, T:93681 (milestone): https://underhound.eu/crawl/morgue/MarvinPA/crash-MarvinPA-20190413-192435.txt
15:25:49 <MarvinPA> oh nice, a summoned merfolk javelineer killing its summoner with a javelin of penetration maybe?
15:26:07 <MarvinPA> and then the crash when it tries to damage the next thing
15:36:06 <gammafunk> I want to say this is a longstanding issue how beams track their source
15:36:35 <gammafunk> and that we haven't made a fix because it would require a significant rework of some of the beam code
15:37:10 <MarvinPA> it seems like it'd be tricky yeah
15:37:17 <|amethyst> it's both the beam code and the attack code
15:37:52 <|amethyst> which is why we've been able to fix it for spells that had the issue, but not penetration ammo
15:39:04 <|amethyst> the attack code generally handles the monster dying during the attack, but not the monster being dead before the attack is even created
15:45:20 <advil> there's definitely a longstanding java penetration issue, usually interacting with something else like summoning
15:45:24 <|amethyst> and because of how the beam code works, it's not really feasible to create all the ranged_attack objects ahead of time and then call attack() on them in turn
15:45:34 <advil> hm so maybe monsters just shouldn't ever read tele
15:46:12 <|amethyst> afaik it happens whenever a penetrating ranged attack kills the thrower
15:46:33 <|amethyst> it can also happen from them hitting ball lightning
15:46:47 <|amethyst> not sure if reflection can do it
15:49:15 <gammafunk> advil: I'd say emergency teleport the spell is likewise not a great thing, but if you wanted to remove monsters reading teleport scrolls, that would be a simple fix to the aspect of the player not knowing a monster could do that
15:49:57 <gammafunk> with emergency teleport spell I think it's at least revealed in x-v
15:50:30 <rofl> does anyone know why CAO has a non-standard dgl-status page? it doesn't have any info on XL or cahr
15:50:31 <MarvinPA> i think emergency teleport spell has also been removed in almost all cases (maybe except maurice?)
15:51:28 <rofl> compare: https://crawl.xtahua.com/cgi-bin/dgl-status http://crawl.akrasiac.org/cgi-bin/dgl-status/index.html
15:51:31 <gammafunk> @?prince ribbit
15:51:32 <Gretell> Prince Ribbit (11F) | Spd: 14 (swim: 60%) | HD: 6 | HP: 33-46 | AC/EV: 0/16 | Dam: 20 | amphibious, spellcaster, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(40), 12drown | XP: 273 | Sp: blink [06!sil], teleport self [04emergency] | Sz: Medium | Int: human.
15:51:36 <MarvinPA> ah, maurice/ribbit/sonja
15:51:39 <gammafunk> he's one of the worst culprits, yeah
15:52:20 <gammafunk> emergency minor healing with lowish chance is a potential replacement, if people like the emergency spell idea
15:52:31 <advil> what are the dgl-status pages even for?
15:52:46 <rofl> I use them to scrape the current players
15:52:54 <advil> I can speculatethat any differences are 90% because no one even knows those pages are there
15:53:08 <rofl> heh. I believe it
15:53:35 <rofl> pretty sure it's what populates https://crawl.develz.org/watch.htm
15:53:49 <MarvinPA> i assume they were at one point used to generate this page: http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/player-status (which no longer functions)
15:53:56 <MarvinPA> oh or that one
15:54:02 <rofl> and that page is missing a bunch of data because of CAO missing it
15:54:17 <advil> huh also did not know of that page
15:54:36 <gammafunk> I think that page might function if you wait long enough
15:55:07 <advil> seems like some of the species naming is wrong in watch.htm
15:55:07 <gammafunk> maybe it's sporadic, but it loaded for me the other day
15:55:07 <advil> unless there's been a gnome comeback
15:55:07 <rofl> it's what shows current games on the homepage: crawl.develz.org
15:55:17 <rofl> gammafunk, I mean the dgl-status page loads for me, it's just missing data on the chars
15:55:35 <gammafunk> yeah it just loaded for me
15:55:37 <gammafunk> it takes a while
15:55:43 <gammafunk> yeah I see
15:56:35 <gammafunk> I wonder if CAO ever properly supplied this data
15:57:02 <rofl> I think it did... it looks like it's just broken past .23
15:57:14 <rofl> because: lokapujya#dcss-0.22#L6  DEWz, Sewer#188x41#1#0#
15:57:21 <gammafunk> ok
15:57:37 <rofl> well actually other players on .22 are missing information
15:57:39 <rofl> really werid
15:57:40 <gammafunk> right, I don't recall it having these huge gaps of info before (which are now all due to CAO being missing, as you say)
15:58:20 <gammafunk> oh, and for 0.22 cao
15:58:27 <gammafunk> some fields are present and some aren't?
15:58:32 <rofl> ya
15:58:40 <rofl> some players have data, and some dont
15:58:54 <advil> rofl: that table is populated from https://crawl.develz.org/dgl-status.json actually
15:59:21 <rofl> advil, ya that that gets parsed from the dgl-status of each webserver
16:00:27 <rofl> https://github.com/guyht/dcss-website/blob/master/dgl-status-collect.py
16:01:01 <rofl> I found where the server writes the file: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/webserver/ws_handler.py#L46
16:31:41 <freelikegnu> http://i.imgur.com/C6Mv3Iz.png
16:32:31 <freelikegnu> any idea why it wont serve up the tiles?
16:44:07 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
17:06:52 <gammafunk> freelikegnu: what kind of errors are you seeing from the webtiles log?
17:07:23 <gammafunk> you can check your browser's javascript console to see what errors your browser is getting as well
17:59:43 <freelikegnu> gammafunk: like this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KtpTcK8Z6d/
18:01:19 <gammafunk> freelikegnu: does that gamedata/8b8ff0a148e5f429110dcf4a45bdfd65cffd4ef1/gui.png file exist?
18:01:28 <freelikegnu> and ERROR: Uncaught exception GET /gamedata/8b8ff0a148e5f429110dcf4a45bdfd65cffd4ef1/floor.png (71.xxx.xxx.xxx)
18:01:30 <gammafunk> also, what do the javascript console errors look like
18:01:41 <gammafunk> those files are what are called the tile sheets
18:02:15 <gammafunk> they are single image files made from the set of individual images and are created during the build, then moved into the gamedata dir upon install
18:03:30 <freelikegnu> there are no files in the gamedata folder :P
18:03:50 <freelikegnu> I dont see and errors in th ebrowser console
18:04:30 <freelikegnu> only the two folders in the gamedata folder
18:12:32 <freelikegnu> in my local machines webserver/game_data there is nothing but the static and template folders and it is running fine
18:12:53 <freelikegnu> not sure where its really pulling those files from
18:19:44 <gammafunk> yeah, I forget the exact directory structure that gets used in a live server
18:21:22 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.24-a0-250-g6074511092 (34)
18:23:02 <gammafunk> freelikegnu: I think those urls actually don't correspond to actual files, now that I'm looking at things
18:27:55 <advil> well, I updated some species in dgl-status-collect.py at least, but I don't have write access to /usr/local/bin
18:31:47 <advil> on cdo
18:36:41 <gammafunk> ah, is that where it lives
18:38:19 <gammafunk> looks like the milestone api for sequell no longer works
18:38:44 <gammafunk> not sure that it's a great way to do that regardless
18:39:03 <gammafunk> advil: if you're sure that the script just needs to be installed there, you can ping Napkin about that
18:40:03 <advil> I'm not sure whether it needs to be, but that is where crontab is calling it from
18:40:54 <advil> maybe can try to figure out what else is going on with that script before bothering Nap.kin too much
18:45:04 <rofl> gammafunk, yeah I've stopped using that API after getting only 503s. It stopped working months ago
19:57:54 <freelikegnu> its a dirty trick that web tiles keyboard help says Ctrl-Q will quit your game without a save
19:58:09 <freelikegnu> it will close your browser :P
19:59:22 <geekosaur> there should be a warning somewhere about it (and that's linux and windows; macs use cmd, so there's no conflict between game commands and browser keys)
20:01:08 <geekosaur> and I think there's a warning somewhere in there that you want to use * instead of ctrl on various platforms
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