00:33:03 -!- _krator44 is now known as krator44 01:11:24 yo, something's messed up w/ hellcrawl on berotato, not sure what's going on there but can somebody try to rebuild? 01:11:34 seems to be working on the other servers 02:15:35 -!- Rast- is now known as rast 02:46:01 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-322-g60b3cfd 03:53:57 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 06:15:58 -!- johnsteinVPS is now known as johnstein 07:54:12 Ghosts with the amulet of the acrobat get the EV+15 bonus. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11434 by NormalPerson7 08:10:09 Stacked deck shows different title when examined on the floor to all other times. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11435 by NormalPerson7 10:16:52 -!- error is now known as Guest81699 11:44:02 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 11:46:47 til that github wikis are open by default 11:47:21 I guess the old wiki was editable by anyone with a mantis account 11:48:23 but somehow the repo wiki seems more official, I guess I'm inclined to think that it shouldn't be editable by anyone 12:52:57 it's not really a wiki then 13:00:44 -!- Mandevil_ is now known as Mandevil 13:29:55 I don't think a wiki has to be editable by anyone 13:31:12 I mean, it's not like the formatting / linking system changes if we click the editable by people with push access button 13:33:05 basically the question is whether stuff like this is really a good fit for the crawl repo wiki (as opposed to a gist, forums, a wiki on a fork, etc): https://github.com/crawl/crawl/wiki/Sif-Muna-Rework-Brainstorm 13:33:12 I certainly don't object to that existing somewhere 13:56:19 -!- boozer45 is now known as jelly_fish 16:28:33 -!- Adeon_ is now known as Adeon 17:01:51 -!- uprime is now known as nobaudy 17:20:57 -!- gresshopper is now known as gressup 17:35:55 -!- nobaudy is now known as uprime 18:08:35 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 18:54:54 is anyone around who can rebuild on cbro 18:55:58 I can do it 18:56:04 cool 18:56:18 something went wrong w/ the hellcrawl build, not sure what 18:56:29 it's working on cpo 18:56:41 "Nothing new to install at the moment: you asked for 5.1-346-g4a05093 and it's already installed, aborting. 18:56:41 Failed: returned 1" 18:56:50 huh 18:56:58 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 18:57:03 got to be sth wrong with the setup then 18:57:19 what's it doing? 18:57:47 won't run 18:58:53 hmm seems to be hanging on startup 18:59:13 cpo works fine, so it's gotta be something on cbro 19:01:01 on console I see: /crawl-master/crawl-hellcrawl-cbro/data/dat/des/branches/bazaar.des:98: Map named 'bzr_entry_dummy' already loaded at /crawl-master/crawl-hellcrawl-cbro/data/dat/des/portals/bazaar.des:100 19:01:34 ok, so the portals file needs to be deleted 19:01:43 yeah, one of them 19:02:02 yeah, the one in portals 19:02:11 cpo might handle that error differently, it's sort of non-optimal that it hangs webtiles 19:02:37 cpo doesn't use DGL, I think? that might lead to the difference 19:03:21 well, the des file in question was deleted in one of my commits 19:03:31 so I'm not sure why it still exists on the server 19:04:54 did you double check the version in the rebuild error? 19:06:22 yeah, that version has my most recent commit and that file does not exist anymore 19:07:36 I wonder if a rebuild doesn't fully refresh the data directory 19:07:49 maybe 19:07:56 I seem to recall this happening once before 19:09:25 johnstein: do you know if a rebuild on CBRO will correctly handle deleted files under data? 19:09:32 not sure when he'll be around 19:11:06 I guess if you want to hack it so it works for a while you could try renaming everything in that file in the new location slightly, but that sounds dumb now that I've typed it out 19:12:01 advil: I was the one who allowed the wiki to be editable by anyone so that it could be like our previous "official" Doku wiki, which allowed this 19:12:13 ah ok 19:12:18 it's fine, I'll just wait until johnstein has time to fix it 19:12:28 It's certainly something that we don't have to allow, but we basically used this system previously with the Doku wiki and didn't have issues 19:12:53 it's true it could be very annoying if random people just started making edits to pages when we didn't want them to 19:13:14 for that specific sif page I mentioned to Realz that he could make it, so he even asked permission there 19:13:24 ok 19:13:33 what we could do is disallow direct editing and ask people to host pages on their own wiki? 19:13:46 and we could look to said pages if we felt they were relevant 19:14:10 it's probably fine, especially since they asked 19:14:43 I see des files not getting deleted properly when I do my own stuff 19:14:43 but not 19:15:02 but normal builds usually clean that stuff up properly and automagically 19:15:24 huh, very strange 19:15:45 I’m assuming that non-standard experimentals for some reason don’t clean up properly sometimes. I can delete the file at home tonight 19:15:53 I don’t pretend to understand 19:15:55 that would be great, thank you! 19:16:18 experimentals use the scripts to update and install stable versions 19:16:33 <|amethyst> hm, I bet the same problem would exist with stable builds if we deleted a .des file in a point release 19:16:51 <|amethyst> trunk gets a new deployment directory for every version, so it wouldn't happen there 19:16:55 yes, I believe you discovered this problem once before in 2012 even 19:17:07 so from my perspective there should be ZERO differences. but this has happened enough times that I’m convinced, without hard evidence, that it’s “just an experimentals thing” thing 19:17:22 ah ok 19:17:52 |amethyst: I can see how that could happen. yay my spidey sense is properly tuned! 19:19:30 <|amethyst> you could fix it probably by modifying copy-data-files in dgamelaunch-config/chroot/sbin/install-stable.sh , but 19:20:02 I will just stop moving des files around I think 19:20:02 <|amethyst> there would be a race condition if you just deleted it there 19:20:02 ez fix 19:24:49 yeah, `cp -r source/dat docs settings $DATADIR` 19:24:54 will not remove things 19:26:57 could use rsync I suppose 19:27:48 <|amethyst> I guess whatever you do, you'll be racing with crawl processes just starting up 19:33:50 would you have to have some sort of lock where new crawl processes had to wait until the lock was released? 19:33:56 and the new dir moved into place, I guess 20:51:15 -!- johnsteinVPS is now known as johnstein 21:34:44 -!- gammafun1 is now known as gammafunk 21:59:29 Amulet of the Acrobat cancels EV bonus with non-actions 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11436 by Siegurt 22:24:23 -!- b0g_ is now known as b0g 22:31:24 Skill costs ignore sacrifice skills 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11437 by Pekkekke 22:33:55 -!- nikheize1 is now known as nikheizen 23:19:14 -!- _krator44 is now known as krator44