00:00:40 ok I see what it's about, I'll try that 00:13:37 the bind worked, thanks for pointing that out, I read it, but never worked with bind mounts before so I went with the other option, now if I can just figure out why I can't get the webserver to start 00:15:33 I can't for the life of me find any useful log information thought that explains the problem 00:26:30 bind mounts are more like symlinks done right. (if you track backwards through a symlink, you are doing so relative to where it points, not where you are --- this matters for symlinks to directories. bash tries to hide this from you, but the result can be even more confusing.) 00:39:15 is tornado supposed to be in the install instructions? 00:40:03 and I see thanks for the clarification 01:10:58 any idea what's going on here? there's no log entries: https://pastebin.com/63aLuADM 01:12:52 Huene`: that's a permissions error of some kind 01:13:05 make sure the permissions on that directory are right (i don't know what "right" means here) 01:17:24 unfortunately there was a few places in the instructions that were a bit hard to follow, so I'm not terribly certain what right means here either, I am able to run it as root, but it exits out without leaving any log info so I have no idea why it's failing 01:19:21 that is permissions, but not file permissions. the chroot system call requires superuser permissions or granting the appropriate linux capability (to the python executable, so I don;t recommend it unless you have a custom python with appropriate permissions) 01:22:37 @geekosaur, is webtiles supposed to launch as root? 01:23:07 anything in /etc/init.d is normally run as root 01:23:29 and yes, if it's doing chroot, it expects to be running as root 01:25:11 the only reason I set it up as chroot is because I didn't fully understand how dgl associated with webtiles, so I tried to follow the instructions to the letter, that said I personally would have been happier without it 01:26:52 to your knowledge does tornado write a log file other than the one that's in the webserver/run/ directory? 01:46:13 Huene`: webtiles writes to that webtiles.log (I think that's the filename) file only I think 01:46:24 the tornado library doesn't have any special logfile 01:46:38 ok so if it doesn't launch there's no way to know why? 01:52:36 Huene`: are you trying to launch it from the init.d script? 01:52:52 I recall there are various problems that can pop up, like if your config.py is bad for some reason 01:53:06 so what I'd try to do is run it not through the init.d script and see what output it has 01:53:39 you just have to run it as root or through sudo 01:53:41 I did that and it does the same thing, if root, it returns 0 without actually doing anything 01:53:53 oh, and you have to turn off daemon mode 01:54:22 it's probably failing early on 01:54:30 that might be why I can't see anything where is that daemon mode switch 01:54:33 in config.py I think there's a variable 01:54:52 k checking ty 01:55:06 yeah in config.py, set daemon = False 01:55:26 there's a line for that already, it should be set to True, so just edit that 02:00:10 what's th erecommended version of python? I'm getting two different errors depending on which I run, 2 or 3.5 02:03:47 this is however what I'm getting on 3.5 https://pastebin.com/4NtZfjf2 02:07:23 webtiles doesn't support python3 02:07:27 it's python2 only 02:11:42 ok no problem, differnet error then, I'm getting this https://pastebin.com/KwGiWNQe 02:13:24 I did adjust the bind ip, and the port is not in use 02:16:10 that error is because there's a patch you need 02:17:09 oh yup I know which one you're talking about, saw it earlier 02:27:27 gammafunk: this FeAE has been a ride and a half. i literally ate my last ration because the only thing keeping me alive was shadow creatures at max hunger bars 02:27:48 (in spider and swamp, so very few chunks) 02:28:23 i had to like, invis+haste ninja the swamp rune to get myself into vaults where i could start eating again 02:38:45 same for snake, you get only meat from anacondas and shock serpents 02:39:20 actually swamp is less of a problem, there are plenty of swamp worms, and those are "edible"? 02:40:07 yes, i got to eat a few swamp worms and spriggans and the like. but when you have to cast a spell at ####### hunger three times to win every fight, that's not enough :P 02:40:43 haha 04:26:01 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:31:09 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 05:43:32 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 09:58:43 hey all, i have a question regarding constriction. i just lost a really promising SpEn to Cigotuvi's monster on a stealth kill attempt that didn't do the job 09:58:43 espais: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:58:47 http://141.210.25.156/morgue/erik/morgue-erik-20180116-142752.txt 09:59:08 the issue is that it seems like there were three or four turns that i didn't have the possibility to do anything...if i was constricted shouldn't i at least have had the option to blink? 09:59:35 all i kept getting were more... messages that i was getting pummeled, but if you look at the turn count in theory i should have at least had control to try and escape somehow 09:59:38 !messages 09:59:39 (1/1) geekosaur said (4d 6h 41m 15s ago): real ginger beer is fermented and has alcohol 10:00:17 !tell geekosaur well it seems a new realm of opportunity awaits me then :) 10:00:17 espais: OK, I'll let geekosaur know. 10:00:44 in the US you can find it in specialty stores. in Jamaica it's probably everywhere :) 10:00:44 geekosaur: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:01:21 btw true root beer is also alcoholic. which my parents discovered the hard way after neighbors gave them a cask 10:02:27 well til 10:02:46 and im sure it's not like that awful dad's root beer 10:02:53 nope 10:04:02 but then, very little that is commercially bottled is anything like the real thing. 10:05:23 true 10:05:27 (also, proper even non-alcoholic ginger beer / ginger ale is pretty damn good. I've had the non-alcooholic Jamaican variety --- and I still miss the original Vernors from the US 10:08:48 there is some decent stuff coming out in stores at least 10:08:51 non-alcoholic 10:09:03 man i'm from michigan so vernor's is our thing here :D 10:09:37 my comment may be an age check, then. :) 10:09:48 Vernors changed a lot when it sold out and went national distribution :( 10:10:03 Cleveland was on the edge of the original regional distribution. 10:10:18 i had some vernor's the other day, it was ok but now i'm sad that apparently i missed out on the real stuff 10:11:51 gotta be honest though, i'm more of a canada dry fan myself 10:12:47 vernor's is too sweet for me 10:16:07 -!- Snuva is now known as surr 10:21:10 that was one of the things that changed, the original was less sweet. they dumped massive amounts of corn syrup into it when it went national 10:21:39 well, the original was sweeter than canada dry. but it was *balanced* 10:26:17 we used to drink it as a flu-recovery strategy 10:26:25 now i like mixing canada dry with whiskey 10:34:52 hmm does !tell work through cerebot? 10:40:29 you can PM sequell if you want to test it 10:41:58 Yeah I tried it after asking, which for the record it doesn't. Okay so I applied the connection_timeout patch to tornado, and webtiles is still failing to start with the same issue, is there some missing command that isn't included in the instructions? in step 12.6 10:47:25 Huene`: just curious as i'm on a conf call at the moment, are you trying to setup webtiles normally or with dgamelaunch? 10:48:01 dgamelaunch 10:48:08 with* 10:50:12 and you went through all the headache with the user creation, chrooting, etc? 10:50:25 yeah 10:51:08 this has been like a 3 day venture, but we're getting there slowly 10:52:43 problem is I don't typically use several of the technologies used in crawl, so I'm learning as I'm going, I almost never chroot, rarely work with mutliple users for the same process and have no experience iwth python :) so I'm growing leaps and bounds, it's just a slow process 10:53:21 yea, it took me a while to get through the instructions 10:55:10 what OS are you using 10:55:24 Centos 7 10:57:12 so in addition to not knowing what I'm doing, I'm also trying to translate debian instructions :D 10:57:35 thankfully once I figured out the correct way to go almost nothing has failed on me until this tornado thing 10:57:57 ech 10:58:05 cent has to be my least favorite, lol 10:58:15 if i'm going RHEL based i like scientific ;) 10:58:21 hmm 10:58:39 I'd rather use solus, but it's a dedi on the other side of the planet, so I can't be picky 10:59:02 so when you look at running services, is webtiles there at all? 11:01:52 the list-unit-files or whatever that command is 11:02:10 I don't see it running 11:04:56 what is the exact error you see when you try to start it? 11:06:55 https://pastebin.com/nkuZAqiR as crawl-dev 11:07:40 I did modify the file to sudo in the script, because for some reason it wasn't executing as root, but I can take that modification out and regenerate the error if you want, it is a different error 11:11:15 but it's basically saying that it can't execute os.chroot, which is why I modified the script 11:14:50 you mentioned this is rented? 11:14:59 do you have root access? 11:15:28 yeah I can do everything except physically touch the machine 11:15:54 mmm 11:15:54 the issue wuth chrooting is troubling 11:17:20 what verseion of tornado/python? 11:18:23 i seem to recalll having to downgrade tornado 11:18:53 the thing with chrooting and creating the users is mainly related to securing the server, you should be able to run it as normal root 11:20:12 python2, but I have 3.5 installed as well, as for tornado I'm not sure how to check, there's no executable for it, and I was under the impression it was already part of the download in the webserver directory, but I could be wrong 11:20:33 oh duh, so you're running python 2.7 and tornado is at 3.2.2 11:20:36 yeah but since I'm unfamiliar with it, I'm not terribly certain what I can exclude from the instructions which is why I decided early on to follow it to the letter 11:20:41 tornado is usually from the OS, not bundled with crawl. it's a python library 11:20:52 tornado is effectively acting as the webserver 11:21:11 also if you removed the os.chroot then *everything* after it will fail 11:21:21 sure but that won't cause the tornado call to die though 11:21:31 that sounds like a versioning issue 11:21:53 yeh. I'm no pythonista though, can't help much 11:22:01 I didn't remove os.chroot, I modified the init.d to sudo executing server.py to get around the os.chroot permission thing 11:22:23 Huene: did you notice the comment in the dgl guide? 11:22:33 Troubleshooting Notes: -Tornado error: File ”/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/tornado-3.0.1-py2.7.egg/tornado/httpserver.py”, line 153, in init TypeError: init() got an unexpected keyword argument 'connection_timeout' Need to install edlothiol's patch for Tornado. As crawl-dev, from /home/crawl-dev: ~$ fetch git://github.com/flodiebold/tornado.git into /home/crawl-dev/tornado ~$ git checkout http-timeouts-2.4 ~ 11:22:51 I applied that 11:22:55 at least as listed, 11:22:58 it didn't do anything 11:23:09 and you're running as crawl-dev 11:23:12 which is why I asked earlier if there was more steps that arn't listed 11:23:14 correct 11:23:15 do you sudo to start webtiles or not? 11:23:37 I've tried both, normal user fails os.chroot, sudo throws connection timeout 11:23:40 (i'm just running through my internal checklist) 11:23:51 it's all good I appreciate the extra eyes 11:24:17 my guess is that: 11:24:26 a) the tornado patch is getting applied to crawl-dev's tornado instance 11:24:43 b) the chroot failure is causing crawl-dev to not work 11:24:53 I had that thought as well, but without knowing python, I'm not sure how to apply it globally 11:24:53 c) running as sudo is running as the root user so you wouldn't use crawl-dev's tornado instance 11:26:33 I wonder if it's as simple as just sudo python setup.py build 11:26:58 give it a shot 11:27:17 I'll let you know in a few minutes 11:27:21 like geekosaur said though, chroot is required for all this multiple user activity 11:27:39 not exactly. it's a security measure. 11:27:47 sure, mentioned that 11:28:01 but running stuff as crawl-dev isn't necessarily going to work well without chroot though right? 11:28:10 all crawl users use the same directory structure, and in theory you could remove the chroot and possibly change the paths afterward. 11:28:20 yea but he's got to be using the paths as is 11:30:02 actually re-reading...did you not do the setup.py build after the tornado patch? 11:30:25 I did 11:30:41 ok 11:30:44 it just didn't do anything so like you said I think it's just updating it locally and not globally 11:31:04 ah 11:33:43 nope same thing as building as root, still connection timeout 11:35:11 what if you uninstalled tornado and then installed the same version as mentioned in the guide 11:35:17 (i hope you're using pip for this by the way) 11:35:36 I can give it a shot 11:35:46 maybe the newest version of tornado doesn't play nice with the patch 11:38:32 well that was interesting 11:39:57 I removed tornado, and for the hell of it tried to launch and it launched, I'm getting errors in webserver.log but that makes sense if it's underversion (it is at 2.4) so we might be on to something does anyone know off hand how to specify version in pip? 11:40:29 pip install ==x.x.x 11:40:41 ty 11:40:51 https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5226311/installing-specific-package-versions-with-pip if you need more detail 11:41:04 sudo if you want to do it sys-wide 11:43:27 okay that was bizarre 11:43:51 sudo pip install tornado==3.0.1 #completed successfully 11:44:11 sudo pip search tornado #installed version 4.2.1 11:44:28 i'd compeltely uninstall tornado 11:44:35 pip freeze tells you the version of everything installed 11:45:37 okay I did it 3 or 4 times and it finally said it's not installed, now installing 3.0.1 11:48:54 huh 11:50:33 there were serveral tornado versions 11:50:40 I took them all out 11:50:43 then reinstalled 3.0.1 11:50:53 that'll happen 11:51:00 still didn't work :/ 11:51:03 bah 11:51:05 same issue connection timeout 11:51:14 you reapplied the patch too i assume 11:51:24 yeah 11:51:40 both as crawl-dev, tried it, connection timeout, and as root, tried it connection timeout 11:56:53 I even deleted and redownloaded the patch because it was part of that step 11:57:52 hmm 12:04:30 so what has worked for me in the past, sadly 12:04:37 is to nuke everything and start from scratch 12:04:44 delete all users, folders, etc 12:04:59 but that's probably worst-case scenario 12:07:15 I'm trying to avoid that only due to it being a 3 day project alredy, but it did cross my mind 12:09:05 yea, i'm running low on ideas 12:09:09 :/ 12:10:30 i'm not sure if there's some particularity with cent that is causing it to not work 12:10:37 hmm, is SElinux enabled? 12:10:46 could try disabling that, restarting, and see if that helps 12:11:01 sometimes with rhel that masks problems 12:15:22 SELinux status: disabled 12:15:25 good thought though 12:34:17 poot 12:34:24 i've got to run, but good luck 12:36:14 thanks for your help 12:49:48 man, crawl server installation is such a mess 12:50:01 yes 12:50:37 we go through something like this every time someone installs a server. and request and often get updates to the dev wiki, but there's always gaps remaining 12:51:10 this is why people were trying to get e.g. docker containers to work 12:51:23 Huene`: it sounds like you just don't have tornado installed with the patch applied yet 12:51:31 *the right version of tornado installed 12:52:12 I am using 3.0.1 with the patch commands run, but I don't think I know of anyway to check to see if it applied correctly 12:52:21 I didn't get an error though 12:52:29 which version is ideal I can try another version 12:52:29 run python, import tornado 12:52:44 then check the version, I think it sets a variable in the module 12:52:57 "python import tornado"? 12:53:19 no, just python to start the interpreter 12:53:24 then `import tornado' 12:53:35 then `tornado.version' 12:53:36 okay no error no return, 12:53:42 ugh 12:53:44 4.2.1 12:53:51 even though it says elsewhere 3.0.1 12:53:55 alright one moment 12:53:58 so, when you've been testing this, how have you been running the server? 12:54:18 has it been as root? from the chroot? 12:54:28 probably not from the chroot I'm guessing 12:54:37 by from I mean you've actually done a chroot 12:54:53 Huene`: which version of python started when you did that 12:54:57 you probably started python3 12:55:01 I didn't execute from within the chroot, but the webtiles init.d script seems to do that 12:55:03 I should have said `python2' 12:55:06 2.7.5 12:55:08 ok 12:56:33 Huene`: you installed with pip? 12:56:38 Huene`: do pip --version 12:56:40 everything I could 12:56:57 what python is it 12:57:01 in that output 12:57:08 9.0.1 with python 2.7 12:57:12 ok, good 12:58:11 yeah, on my system if I do: pip2 install --user tornado==3.0.1 12:58:15 I'm doing a user install here 12:58:22 then I run python and import tornado 12:58:25 I get 3.0.1 12:58:38 now you're not doing a --user install probably 12:59:01 let me try a system-wide 12:59:15 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:01:01 yeah it seems to work either way for me 13:01:44 Huene`: actually, using pip here isn't even desirable, since we have you use that patched version 13:02:09 Huene`: those instructions in 12.6 have you run setup.py yourself 13:02:33 yes, and I did 13:04:28 Huene`: did you run the python setup.py install 13:04:30 command? 13:04:35 yse 13:04:36 yes 13:04:42 both as crawl-dev and as root 13:05:00 oh wait install 13:05:00 well that works for me for doing an install 13:05:01 hang on 13:05:12 I hope it's that simple 13:05:15 yes, if you only build, it won't work without the env var 13:05:23 that's all that's listed on the page 13:05:33 no, it's a comment a bit further down 13:05:34 that's why I kept asking if there was any other commands to it 13:05:44 oh I must have missed that 13:05:47 NOTE from johnstein: ”/etc/init.d/webtiles sets PYTHONPATH for this, so you shouldn't need to install this, but I wasn't able to make it work and needed to ~# python setup.py install” 13:06:05 ugh I thought that was a seperate issue 13:06:06 so you either have to set that PYTHONPATH to include this checkout or just install it 13:06:06 lol 13:06:09 that's probably it 13:06:15 yeah, try running the install as root 13:06:43 then any user should see it, so as root or not-root, try doing the python/import tornado/tornado.version thing to see 13:07:02 I tried that yesterday actually, but it was the wrong tornado at the time 13:07:21 well this is installing tornado 13:07:30 so the current tornado you have is not relevant 13:07:38 this is installing a patched 2.4 13:07:46 now it says 2.4 13:07:50 there we go 13:07:52 try to launch? 13:07:56 no try running webtiles, yeah 13:08:04 that's what I meant 13:08:06 k one moment 13:08:10 still outside of daemon mode though 13:08:13 so you can see output 13:08:15 yeah iut 13:08:17 it is 13:09:13 we should port webtiles to a more recent tornado 13:09:17 I did this for webtiles-changes 13:09:43 recent versions have the connection_timeout arg (although it's a slightly different function signature) 13:10:11 if that's proper terminology for python, since I don't think it has a notion of function signatures 13:10:30 due to how it already has variable arg processing 13:11:03 well it launched but there's no console output, it didn't exit there's just no feedback, and the website is giving a ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE 13:11:18 if there's no console output, it sounds like you're in daemon mode 13:11:33 it shouldn't be unless something I did turned it off one sec let me check 13:11:54 daemon = False 13:12:20 checkign the log one sec, since it actually finally launched 13:12:32 Huene`: well check the process 13:12:34 is the process running 13:13:04 yes it's definnitely running 13:13:07 I assume you ran it something like `python webserver.py` 13:13:12 so you shoudl see that process 13:13:18 oh, yeah 13:13:22 if it has the logfile set 13:13:27 maybe it makes no console output at all 13:14:34 https://pastebin.com/BSvQcQj7 13:14:49 yep, it's running alright 13:14:57 but the website itself is still coming back as empty response 13:15:17 possibly you have a firewall config issue? 13:15:18 can I paste the url here for diagnostic purposes or is that frowned upon? 13:15:31 you can, but not sure we'll be able to access it 13:15:34 we can see the IP already 13:15:41 http://crawl.mcbadwolf.com 13:15:45 well that's what it's doing 13:15:54 yeah, I think you have a firewall issue probably 13:16:07 oh hang on once I tried to access it I have log info one moment 13:16:07 namely, do you have 8080 allowed to the outside world? 13:16:34 oh ok 13:16:46 you can tail -f that file btw 13:16:55 it will update it in realtime 13:17:37 I never knew that was a thing, I used to watch tail, awsome thanks for the tip 13:17:51 https://pastebin.com/7x5rp0sW 13:17:55 there's the last bit of it 13:18:42 ah, yep 13:18:55 see that note in the wiki from zibudo 13:19:11 er 13:19:49 I forget what the fix is for that 13:20:00 I think you need a proper locale setting 13:20:04 I was just wondering that 13:20:12 I need to find out how to set it on centos7 13:20:23 If latin1 encoding error: edit the final file in the trace and change 'latin1' to 'UTF-8' 13:20:29 I did it in the chroot 13:20:37 any idea what they mean by the final file? 13:20:50 in your error 13:21:04 it's referring to one of the tornado 2.4 files installed 13:21:13 ahh ok I see what you mean 13:21:59 looks like it's httpserver.py 13:22:30 we really need to port webtiles to a recent tornado I guess 13:23:48 Okay now this makes no sense: LookupError: unknown encoding: UTF-8 13:24:08 I wonder if I need en_GB.UTF-8 to match the system 13:24:10 sounds like you missed the quotes 13:24:32 what does the final line you edited look like? 13:24:33 data = native_str(data.decode('UTF-8')) 13:24:35 ok 13:24:36 I was just getting it 13:24:48 it was data = native_str(data.decode('latin1')) 13:24:49 and yeah not sure about that 13:24:52 you could try 13:26:33 didn't work 13:29:09 data = native_str(codecs.latin_1_decode(data)[0]) 13:29:32 oh, you might need ot import codecs with that one 13:29:56 yeah 13:30:02 what you posted that's your line? 13:30:09 yeah that is a workaround 13:30:16 but you need another edit to that file you edited 13:30:24 near the top, you need a line with `import codecs' 13:30:34 that's the whole line? 13:30:37 any line near the other import statements 13:30:38 yeah 13:30:45 what's a comment in python? 13:31:09 Huene`: under `import time' 13:31:19 # sign 13:31:21 k one moment and ty 13:32:16 Huene`: another thing, I wonder if it's actually 'utf-8' 13:32:19 not 'UTF-8' 13:32:30 it's not I tried that already 13:32:35 welp 13:33:32 hrm, I hope that latin_1_decode function returns an n-tuple or something 13:33:51 okay it passed the file but got hung up on another 13:34:10 oh hang on this one references it as utf8 let me undo those changes and try it without the - 13:34:35 yeah 13:34:46 it might just be the name of the encoding we have wrong for utf-8 13:35:11 nah it failed, putting it back to your workaround and looking at the next file 13:36:51 there may be a problem with my fix in that it may be only unencoding one char of a message 13:36:57 so let me try this myself 13:37:39 okay holdinf off on the next file 13:39:03 hmmm, so I don't get any problem even with 4.5 13:39:05 now why is this 13:41:11 nice, ok 13:41:22 Decodes the object input and returns a tuple (output object, length consumed) 13:41:28 re the codec function workaround 13:41:39 so we do want that first element only 13:41:47 ok, so that workaround *should* be ok 13:41:59 Huene`: you say you get more latin1 errors even with that change? 13:42:02 if so, can you pastebin 13:42:27 no once I apply that and add the import it works fine on that file but it stucks on the next one one sec 13:42:48 yeah, I men latin1 errors in other files 13:43:20 https://pastebin.com/6w3ys4c7 13:43:40 looks like you still have a utf8 change 13:43:43 you've made 13:44:04 in escape.py ? 13:44:09 I didn't make any changes in here, but this is the stock line in question: return urllib.quote_plus(utf8(value)) 13:45:25 ok, so maybe you really just don't have the utf8 stuff properly installed on your system 13:46:23 I suppose it's possible but it would definitely not be expected, since the stock locale is en_gb.utf-8 13:46:49 I wonder if it's being thrown off by it being the british locale 13:49:59 changed the system locale to en_US.utf8 and it didn't help 13:50:56 Huene`: which python2 are you running? 13:51:13 full version I mean 13:51:14 I don't understand the question 13:51:18 2.7.5 I think 13:51:21 one sec 13:51:36 yeah 13:51:44 yeah I have 2.7.14 13:53:35 -!- illusion is now known as Guest85706 13:53:38 I think if you can get your python to have those UTF-8 decoders 13:53:40 you'll be good 13:54:05