00:27:02 -!- yesno_ is now known as yesno
00:28:16 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.21-a0-536-gdbbf329 (34)
00:56:26 -!- mibe_ is now known as mibe
01:36:09 -!- n| is now known as n1
03:21:32 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.21-a0-536-gdbbf329 (34)
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06:28:57 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
11:34:16 <advil> !tell SteelNeuron new proposal for walljump UI: (i) have two modes, one walljumps via movement with no delay (i.e. your initial version), and one walljumps using an ability + targeter, and (ii) have a pseudo-ability that toggles between the two modes in game (could still keep the rc option to set the default)
11:34:17 <Sequell> advil: OK, I'll let steelneuron know.
11:36:00 <advil> !tell SteelNeuron I think the current version could work if crawl had more things you could do in a similar way, and I have found that it reduced my accidental walljumps, but it's too far off typical crawl abilities and maybe a bit too much in-between the other two versions & isn't quite careful enough for careful players
11:36:01 <Sequell> advil: OK, I'll let steelneuron know.
11:36:24 <advil> !tell SteelNeuron Another specific concern is that it's not cancellable, which would be straightforwardly fixed in an ability version
11:36:25 <Sequell> advil: OK, I'll let steelneuron know.
11:37:48 <gammafunk> the plot thickens
11:37:57 <gammafunk> I need to ascend my dg so I can do my wu game
11:38:13 <gammafunk> if I do any balance tweaks I need to play it
11:40:03 <advil> yeah, I have a wjc game in progress right now
11:41:21 <gammafunk> !lm advil
11:41:22 <Sequell> 7312. [2017-12-14 16:16:56] advil the Slicer (L15 VSAs of Wu Jian) entered the Swamp on turn 30530. (Lair:4)
11:41:29 <gammafunk> !lg advil wu
11:41:30 <Sequell> 1. hyperadvil the Slicer (L11 HaMo of Wu Jian), blasted by a gargoyle (stone arrow) on D:10 on 2017-06-15 19:48:52, with 7031 points after 16680 turns and 2:03:09.
11:41:45 <advil> I haven't played it much before this game
11:42:57 <advil> I really need to use the advanced abilities more, my character is kind of strong enough that I haven't needed to be diligent about that
11:43:23 <advil> lunge + fast elec weapon + vs bite is a good combo
11:43:57 <gammafunk> Yeah, for playtesting I often just use Human since it's not too strong nor too weak
11:44:44 <gammafunk> VS is pretty strong (when played well)
11:44:53 <advil> yeah
11:44:56 <advil> !dump advil
11:44:56 <Henzell> http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/advil/advil.txt
11:45:56 <advil> I wonder if there would be a way to count wjc movement abilities
11:46:41 <gammafunk> wouldn't be too hard, would it?
11:46:45 <advil> probably not
11:47:07 <gammafunk> I guess heavenly storm is already tracked
11:47:18 <advil> yeah, the active ones are tracked
11:47:32 <advil> would be interesting to know how often I'm using lunge/whirlwind though
11:52:24 <advil> might need to add some dummy ability_types
12:04:39 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.21-a0-536-gdbbf329 (34)
12:11:25 <advil> hm, should they count as invocations or abilities?
12:24:59 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.21-a0-537-gd2fb950: Count WJC passive abilities in morgue files 10(56 seconds ago, 4 files, 66+ 36-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d2fb950b4bb5
12:25:52 <advil> hopefully having dummy abilities like that won't break anything, it doesn't seem like that idea has been used before that I could find
13:09:40 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-537-gd2fb950b4b (34)
15:00:27 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
18:17:37 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21-a0-537-gd2fb950b4b (34)
19:21:43 <Cheibriados> Unidentified scarf of spirit shield appears as a useless item for DS with spirit shield mutation 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11325 by Brathek
19:25:26 <amalloy> rip
19:33:16 <Cheibriados> 03amalloy02 07* 0.21-a0-538-gd16b88a: Don't leak information about unid scarves (Brathek, #11325) 10(19 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d16b88afdd90
20:09:37 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-538-gd16b88afdd (34)
20:10:16 <minmay> dear gozag vault: staff of olgreb is not worth 10,000 gold
20:17:28 <geekosaur> gozag doesn;t care what it's worth, gozag just wants gold
20:18:26 <amalloy> it's worth what the market will bear. gozag is blameless, shackled to the whims to the free market
20:33:09 <gammafunk> there's a sucker born every minute
21:17:34 <amalloy> !lg * cbro
21:17:34 <Sequell> 868178. BisonMan the Shield-Bearer (L8 GrFi of Trog), slain by a shadow on D:9 (gammafunk_temple_of_torment) on 2017-12-15 02:16:29, with 1515 points after 5108 turns and 0:09:07.
21:18:18 <gammafunk> a fair death, I can't complain about that one
21:18:22 <amalloy> !lg bisonman cbro 1
21:18:23 <Sequell> 1/16. BisonMan the Skirmisher (L1 BaFi), succumbed to a kobold's poison on D:1 on 2017-12-13 18:48:52, with 4 points after 33 turns and 0:00:09.
21:19:18 <amalloy> !tell |amethyst is something wrong with cao/cbro scoring? https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/7jwkx9 reports that games on cbro are not being scored, and eg !lg bisonman cbro 1 was days ago but bisonman has no scoring page at all
21:19:19 <Sequell> amalloy: OK, I'll let |amethyst know.
21:20:17 <gammafunk> I recall he restarted cao scoring last time cao went down (because of a reboot)
21:35:22 <|amethyst> hm
21:36:13 <|amethyst> !lg bisonman cbro 1 x=file
21:36:14 <Sequell> 1/16. [file=cbro/crawl/meta/git/logfile] BisonMan the Skirmisher (L1 BaFi), succumbed to a kobold's poison on D:1 on 2017-12-13 18:48:52, with 4 points after 33 turns and 0:00:09.
21:36:16 <|amethyst> that game is there
21:36:20 <|amethyst> !lg bisonman cbro x=file
21:36:21 <Sequell> 16. [file=cbro/crawl/meta/git/logfile] BisonMan the Shield-Bearer (L8 GrFi of Trog), slain by a shadow on D:9 (gammafunk_temple_of_torment) on 2017-12-15 02:16:29, with 1515 points after 5108 turns and 0:09:07.
21:36:32 <|amethyst> !lg bisonman cbro x=file 11
21:36:33 <Sequell> 11/16. [file=cbro/crawl/meta/git/logfile] BisonMan the Carver (L10 MiFi of Uskayaw), blasted by a starcursed mass (accursed screaming) on Abyss:1 on 2017-12-14 19:13:49, with 4022 points after 7375 turns and 0:13:02.
21:36:39 <|amethyst> that's the last one listed
21:36:42 <|amethyst> !lg bisonman cbro x=file 12
21:36:42 <Sequell> 12/16. [file=cbro/crawl/meta/git/logfile] BisonMan the Blocker (L11 MiFi of Okawaru), slain by qqqbard's ghost in Bailey (bailey_axe_bossmonster_kennysheep) on 2017-12-14 23:51:29, with 13909 points after 12209 turns and 0:34:59.
21:36:49 <amalloy> oh, i see. i tried http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/BisonMan.html which doesn't exist
21:36:54 <|amethyst> lowercase
21:36:56 <amalloy> right
21:36:58 <|amethyst> hm
21:37:21 <|amethyst> so it's missing about 3 hours it looks like?
21:37:21 <gammafunk> oh, woopsie
21:38:46 <amalloy> is a 3-hour lag typical?
21:38:53 <|amethyst> no
21:40:03 <|amethyst> 2017-12-14 19:19:44,907 [DEBUG] player_DIRTY: BisonMan (+1) => 24   20 minutes ago
21:40:16 <|amethyst> so why didn't the player page update?
21:40:37 <|amethyst> hm
21:40:50 <|amethyst> it didn't say "Updating player page for BisonMan" though
21:41:01 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
21:45:02 <|amethyst> yeah, best-players-total-score has a higher total score, counting 16 games, than what is listed on the individual player page
21:45:20 <|amethyst> I have no idea why the player page wouldn't be updating, but I don't know that part of the code very well either
21:46:43 <|amethyst> oh, apparently there is some kind of threshold for dirtiness?
21:46:54 <|amethyst> below which it won't update the player page
21:46:58 <|amethyst> but I'm not sure how that works
21:47:30 <|amethyst> # Pages update at least once in 30 minutes if dirty.
21:47:30 <|amethyst> DEFAULT_DIRTY_THRESHOLD = 30
21:47:30 <|amethyst> PLAYER_DIRTY_THRESHOLD = 30
21:47:33 <|amethyst> hm
21:47:44 <|amethyst> I think the logic might not be right there?
21:51:28 <|amethyst> I'm not sure why it's (+1), it seems like that should be (+31) from the code
21:52:45 <|amethyst> oh
21:52:58 <|amethyst> it's dirty_page that would be +31, but this is dirty_player
21:54:54 <|amethyst> looks like it takes a lot of low-scoring games (30 or so) to make the page update?
21:55:08 <|amethyst> I was not aware it did that
21:55:21 <|amethyst> and particularly that it doesn't flush them out periodically
21:56:41 <|amethyst> or maybe it's supposed to?
21:56:56 <|amethyst> in any event, if BisonMan keeps playing, the new games will show up eventually
22:18:28 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
22:20:31 <amalloy> sadly bisonman is (afaik) not the player who reported the bug
22:22:09 <|amethyst> oh
22:23:02 <amalloy> the player doesn't mention his username, so i just grabbed a random player on cbro to see if it was happening for everyone
23:25:50 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan