00:50:32 <amalloy> don't leave me hanging, gammafunk. what did i do wrong?
01:00:00 <gammafunk> you didn't close a related bug!
01:00:08 <gammafunk> I'm sorry amalloy, you're fired
01:00:17 <gammafunk> don't worry, I closed the bug
01:09:52 <gammafunk> but now I need to go fix crate's bug
01:26:17 <nikheizen> do monster haste and monster slow counter eachother out or do monsters get fast+slow like players
01:27:19 <gammafunk> can you test it in monster
01:27:27 <gammafunk> @?goblin perm_ench:haste,slow
01:27:28 <Gretell> unknown ench: "haste,slow"
01:27:31 <gammafunk> @?goblin perm_ench:haste;slow
01:27:31 <Gretell> Bad item name: 'slow'
01:27:35 <gammafunk> @?goblin perm_ench:haste;slowed
01:27:35 <Gretell> Bad item name: 'slowed'
01:27:37 <gammafunk> @?goblin perm_ench:haste
01:27:37 <Gretell> goblin (15g) | Spd: 15 | HD: 1 | HP: 3-5 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: human.
01:27:42 <gammafunk> @?goblin perm_ench:haste perm_ench:slow
01:27:42 <Gretell> goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 3-5 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: human.
01:27:46 <gammafunk> seems they cancel
01:28:10 <gammafunk> @?goblin perm_ench:haste perm_ench:slow perm_ench:berserk
01:28:10 <Gretell> goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 5-8 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 6 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: human.
01:54:56 <amalloy> gammafunk: i think the question was more like, when you target a hasted monster with a Slow spell, does it become fast+slow (spd 10), or does it become neither fast or slow (also spd 10)
02:02:08 <gammafunk> well for monsters, slowness/haste is the final speed value, right?
02:02:26 <gammafunk> or I guess I'm saying, doesn't seem like there's be a gameplay difference
02:03:48 <nikheizen> yeah im not asking whether there's a gameplay difference
02:03:58 <nikheizen> would be easy to test though, which I'll do later
02:04:34 <gammafunk> monster may not even be an accurate reflection of that anyhow
02:04:53 <gammafunk> my adding slow there could just override it for all I know, well hm
02:05:01 <gammafunk> nm
02:52:27 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-142-gdd972a7
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05:00:32 <alexjurkiewicz> what is the difference for players between fast+slow and normal?
05:16:05 <gammafunk> well both durations are maintained, but not necessarily equal times
05:16:14 <gammafunk> so fast could wear off before slow, and vice versa
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12:59:57 <MarvinPA_> re: backlog stuff, monsters do get fast+slow, and the main gameplay difference between that and them just cancelling out to nothing (for players too) is if you're fast+slow, you can't make yourself fast again by hasting
13:02:59 <rast> which is a good thing imo, as monsters have a lot more hastes and slows to deal out than players do
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19:47:14 <Lasty1> amalloy: hey, you around?
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21:07:59 <amalloy> Lasty1: yes, just got in
21:09:23 <amalloy> what's up?
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22:01:11 <alexjurkiewicz> hellmonk: there's an orc ending with a pan entrance in it. after going through holypan I eited pan and returned to orc. bug?
22:01:31 <hellmonk> isnt that where it would normally take you?
22:01:58 <hellmonk> pan still functions like a regular portal, you just won't be able to go in again from the depths 3 one
22:02:25 <hellmonk> or do you mean you went from depths 3 and ended up back in orc somehow
22:02:50 <alexjurkiewicz> no, sounds like it's working fine then
22:03:13 <hellmonk> if you do manage to get into pan again, it's a bug (and the game will probably crash)
22:03:17 <alexjurkiewicz> for some reason I thought it was part of the orbrun
22:03:30 <hellmonk> nope
22:07:05 <minmay> orcrun
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23:16:17 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.21-a0-143-g1ab7d47: Add a travel color option to reduce console map ambiguity (8471) 10(21 minutes ago, 3 files, 24+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1ab7d47c5258
23:20:34 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  I read that commit title and thought it was about using a different background colour for travel trails rather than reverse video
23:23:38 <gammafunk> language was a tricky issue in general with that commit
23:24:34 <alexjurkiewicz> hellmonk: are monsters in los of where you enter removed?
23:24:46 <alexjurkiewicz> I had a funny experience
23:24:46 <alexjurkiewicz> You climb downwards.
23:24:47 <alexjurkiewicz> Duvessa screams in rage.
23:24:47 <alexjurkiewicz> Duvessa goes berserk!
23:25:14 <hellmonk> oh damn, it's that bug again
23:25:18 <hellmonk> thought I fixed that
23:26:01 <hellmonk> I'll try to fix it again later I guess
23:26:50 <hellmonk> it's supposed to check if one of them gets removed and mark the other one for removal but my code is probably wrong and it's hard to test
23:28:54 <gammafunk> you can probably just make an entry vault, weight it very high (maybe WEIGHT: 10000 or do CHANCE: 100%) that places one
23:29:15 <gammafunk> I guess you'd want the vault to be larger than LOS
23:29:22 <gammafunk> and put on in LOS, one not
23:29:48 <gammafunk> s/on/one/
23:30:18 <hellmonk> ah, good idea
23:33:35 <alexjurkiewicz> hellmonk: no no, they both get removed
23:33:47 <alexjurkiewicz> it's just that duvessa wen't berserk before she was removed
23:33:52 <hellmonk> oh
23:33:54 <hellmonk> neat
23:34:06 <hellmonk> so I can just hack away that message
23:34:46 <alexjurkiewicz> seems like the meme solution would be to remove them entirely
23:35:08 <hellmonk> yes, it would
23:45:22 <gammafunk> memes?!
23:56:04 <amalloy> !tell lasty missed your PMs monday night. i sent an email to your .mailmap address so we don't have to keep playing IRC phone-tag; just letting you know via Sequell as well in case it was the wrong email address
23:56:04 <Sequell> amalloy: OK, I'll let lasty know.
23:56:10 <amalloy> er, sunday
23:56:11 <amalloy> balls