00:56:37 <suomi> hey, do you guys take kindly to pull requests?
01:02:58 <gammafunk> yes suomi
01:03:17 <gammafunk> feel free to make one, we'll make comments and possibly merge
01:03:27 <gammafunk> you might want to discuss your pull request here first depending on the nature of the change
01:03:59 <gammafunk> particularly for gameplay changes; if it's a more a technical change or bugfix, that might not need much discussion
01:04:06 <suomi> Well okay. It's like literally 4 lines. It really bugs me when trog and oka give you gifts and you can't tell if its ammo or an weapon / artifact
01:04:18 <suomi> so its just a change to specify which in the grants gift message
01:04:52 <nikheizen> good name pekka
01:06:47 <nikheizen> grants you a gift of ammunition vs. ...?
01:07:11 <suomi> it's the same as before
01:07:33 <suomi> I couldn't really think of what would be a better message
01:09:18 <suomi> equipment maybe?
01:09:25 <nikheizen> grants you a new armanent/weapon or equipment for oka yeah
01:09:55 <Doesnt_> it would be nice if the message said what it was
01:10:12 <Doesnt_> sometimes you get a gift while you're standing on a pile of junk
01:10:28 <Doesnt_> which is annoying to look at if you have a full inventory
01:10:49 <Doesnt_> since the game won't even let you search the pile with ,
01:16:29 <suomi> I'm pretty sure you can look at piles even with a full inventory. Any equipment would be marked as a gift, no?
01:17:27 <nikheizen> you know whats under you so you can ctrl+x i believe
01:24:15 <minmay> IMO: "Okawaru grants you a glowing falchion {god gift}" instead of "Okawaru grants you a gift/weapon/armour/ammunition/beer"
01:25:25 <minmay> I'd also like it if god gifts were pre-identified - in particular a non-randart launcher god gift can't have distortion, and won't be cursed because it's a god gift, so there's no downside to wielding it and identifying it
01:27:49 <suomi> The issue with that, as far as I can tell the acquirement function doesn't actually return what it created, it just indicates that it created something
01:28:49 <minmay> It manages to inscribe it with {god gift}, so...
01:30:39 <gammafunk> did you mean to say "non-randart/launcher god gift"?
01:31:01 <minmay> no, I meant a launcher that is not a randart
01:31:19 <minmay> because it cannot be cursed, it cannot be distortion or even vamp, it cannot have *drain, it cannot have *curse
01:31:21 <nikheizen> rqandart launchers can be cursed
01:31:49 <gammafunk> yeah it was just your immediately talking about disto that confused me
01:31:51 <minmay> so the only reason not to wield-ID it is that you want to save 2 player turns and 10 aut
01:32:19 <minmay> if it is a randart launcher, or not a launcher, you can at least say "oh but its a DECISION!!! because you might want to use identify instead of wield-IDing it in case it has distortion or *Drain!!!"
01:32:47 <minmay> in defense of leaving god gifts unidentified
01:33:18 <minmay> but that defense doesn't work for launcher gifts that are not randarts, although you could make it work for them by allowing acquirement to produce cursed items
01:33:19 <suomi> I think gifts can still have like *slow or *contam
01:33:36 <minmay> suomi: find me a non-artefact god gift wtih *drain or *contam
01:34:05 <suomi> Oh, I see now
01:35:10 <gammafunk> you'll find them when I add my scroll of starring
01:35:36 <gammafunk> bad scroll that adds star properties to mundane equipment, part of the identification minigame
01:35:46 <minmay> new shoals monster: starfish, adds *contam and *drain to your items when it bites you
01:38:04 <minmay> _x - the +1 pair of gloves of Dithmenos's Favour {-Cast Int+7}
01:38:11 <suomi> we have the technology
02:21:03 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/565 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/565
02:21:03 <Cheibriados> 03suomenusko02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/565 * 0.21-a0-95-g15fb341: Change oka and trog acquirement texts to be more informative 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/15fb34163f3c
02:30:53 <gammafunk> http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/0-20-1-bugfix-release
02:33:13 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.20] * 0.20.1-1-g8b1a95d: Fix some typos in the changelog 10(49 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8b1a95d66d7d
02:53:20 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-94-gdd6ab6a
03:10:22 <Jorgrell> Stable (0.20) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20.1-1-g8b1a95d
05:11:10 <gammafunk> !seen ontoclasm
05:11:11 <Sequell> I last saw ontoclasm at Sun May 14 21:54:24 2017 UTC (6w 6d 11h 16m 46s ago) parting ##crawl-dev, saying 'chanpart'.
05:17:38 <kenran> !messages
05:17:39 <Sequell> No messages for kenran.
05:48:41 <Eksell> poirepourri (L17 SpEn)  (D (Sprint))
08:20:12 <Lightli> why the hell is Ko stat growth still sid
08:20:29 <Lightli> (for that matter, why are they even a playable race still)
08:32:32 <advil> !crashlog
08:32:34 <Sequell> 17612. PublicChat, XL1 TrCK, T:1 (milestone): https://webzook.net/soup/morgue/0.19/PublicChat/crash-PublicChat-20170701-200001.txt
08:32:39 <advil> !crashlog -2
08:32:39 <Sequell> No milestones for -2 (crash).
08:32:48 <advil> !crashlog poirepourri
08:32:49 <Sequell> No milestones for poirepourri (crash).
08:39:56 <advil> !crashlog poirepourri sprint
08:40:02 <Sequell> 4. poirepourri, XL17 SpEn, T:5710 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/poirepourri/crash-poirepourri-20170702-094814.txt
09:14:40 <advil> gammafunk: os x 0.20.1 builds in https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mjk2xoklkhmyg2n/AAAfljuzOz4nC3-wYZ4qdZMEa?dl=0
09:15:48 <advil> I've even tested on my brand new mbp with sierra
09:15:58 <advil> touchpad esc is very weird
09:16:04 <advil> *touchbar
09:18:20 <advil> also the default touchbar settings keep trying to give me man pages for things in crawl :D
09:26:42 <advil> sadly, adding touchbar support looks pretty non-trivial, though may be (eventually?) doable in a more straightforward way for safari webtiles
10:41:06 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/566 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/566
10:41:06 <Cheibriados> 03panicbit02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/566 * 0.21-a0-95-g67959be: Add neo command keys 10(11 minutes ago, 2 files, 109+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/67959be160bd
14:56:37 -!- bh is now known as bhickey
15:03:55 <Lantell> Stable (0.20) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20.1-1-g8b1a95d
15:52:11 <gammafunk> advil: cool, thanks
15:53:44 -!- bhickey is now known as brendan_
15:53:46 -!- brendan_ is now known as bh
17:05:09 <Cheibriados> 03suomenusko02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/565 * 0.21-a0-96-gf8cd129: Update force more for changed god gift texts 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f8cd1299ea45
19:07:23 <gammafunk> Napkin: looks like the cdo trunk development page at http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/ isn't getting updated with the latest links. I don't have permissions to read the update script to see why
19:07:36 <gammafunk> but if you have time to take a look and fix that, would be appreciated
22:12:20 <minmay> A pair of horns grows on your head!
22:12:20 <minmay> The +0 Maxwell's etheric cage {RegenMP+ *Contam rElec MP+4} falls away!
22:12:20 <minmay> Mutagenic energies flood into your body!
22:12:26 <minmay> good to know that wearing this ever is still a mistake
22:12:49 <gammafunk> nice
22:14:55 <minmay> why is it even a helmet instead of a hat in the first place, anyway
22:17:59 <gammafunk> probably just for flavor reasons
22:20:29 <n1> is that the only fixedart helmet?
22:21:54 <minmay> yes
22:22:08 <minmay> imo *contam/*drain on a helmet is really mean
22:22:37 <minmay> especially on an artefact that is already worse than a regular +2 helmet
22:24:21 -!- Grammu is now known as Gramm
22:24:26 <minmay> I didn't even realize that mutating off the item would trigger the *Contam
22:27:20 <checkers> hahha that interaction is great
22:27:37 <checkers> I have an open PR to make helms and hats have the same fitting requirements btw
23:00:45 <checkers> transporters are great
23:02:03 <checkers> it's significantly more deadly
23:02:37 <checkers> can I forget the level layout completely in wizmode?
23:04:13 <checkers> I guess the problem with transporter trap vaults is you can just teleport out once you're in
23:04:28 <checkers> I guess for this unrand it's in zot so that's not so safe
23:07:56 <gammafunk> you can't really forget the level layout, no
23:22:06 <Wander> hello
23:22:40 <checkers> hi
23:23:34 <checkers> gammafunk: when writing a transporter vault I'd like to sometimes swap the entrance and exit transporters. How can I write this in des syntax?
23:23:36 <Wander> anyone know much about making vaults? and would be willing to answer a few questions
23:23:53 <checkers> I am thinking it's something like `: if coinflip() \n SUBST: ????? \n : end`
23:24:07 <checkers> Wander: don't ask to ask :)
23:24:07 <gammafunk> checkers: no, you'd just do a shuffle probably
23:24:09 <gammafunk> they're just normal glyphs
23:24:28 <gammafunk> the only thing you have to keep in mind is that that the markers are made where the glyphs are at the time of the MARKER statment
23:25:01 <Wander> ah, ok. If anyone has the time, I made a thread here: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=23895
23:25:57 <gammafunk> checkers: so just pretend that the two relevant glyphs are like features you sometimes wwant to exchange
23:26:13 <gammafunk> you generally would do this using a shuffle that happens before the marker statement
23:26:22 <checkers> ah shuffle, i forgot it exists
23:30:47 <amalloy> Wander: one obvious problem with your vault is that it is impossible to have monsters in the player's LOS when the game starts
23:32:37 <checkers> Wander: i think you need to mark T in your FTILE line
23:32:52 <Wander> oh, even ones deliberately placed? I thought it was only the case for randomly generated mons
23:33:23 <checkers> what are you trying to do with the KFEAT line?
23:34:41 <Wander> trying to place the toadstools on a floor that has been changed to floor_grass
23:35:26 <checkers> i think you can remove KFEAT and add T= floor_grass to the FTILE line
23:39:41 <Wander> thank you, checkers! that worked
23:40:30 <checkers> the secret is (as you can now see) that just because a letter is used to spawn a monster doesn't mean it can't be used by non-monster things too
23:41:02 <Wander> mhm, that's good to know
23:45:47 <checkers> oh nice, crawl/crawl PRs now default to split diff display
23:45:49 <checkers> good for vaults
23:45:58 <checkers> gammafunk: feedback appreciated on the PR i just opened
23:47:12 <gammafunk> will take a look and get back to you in next day or so
23:50:01 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/567 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/567
23:50:01 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/567 * 0.21-a0-89-g9a0e999: Upgrade mask of the dragon guarded vault 10(32 minutes ago, 1 file, 31+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9a0e999c6473
23:56:43 <Eksell> Stable (0.20) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20.1-1-g8b1a95d