00:03:29 <Eksell> Stable (0.20) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20.0-14-g326068f
00:22:17 <minmay> I know I've complained about this already but  a - [Snake:4] a robe (167 further duplicates)
00:22:24 <minmay> does every single naga really need a robe
00:25:32 <koboldina> silly
00:25:54 <hellmonk> naked snake
00:38:34 <Doesnty> no
00:38:41 <Doesnty> if a snake gets a barding it doesn't wear a robe
00:38:53 <Doesnty> they can only cover their upper or lower body
01:00:05 <gammafunk> give monsters every slot, let them wear scarves dangit
01:37:26 <alexjurkiewicz> I think stairs are things that many players don't realise take >1.0 auts
01:37:52 <alexjurkiewicz> although maybe the game could add QoL by preventing leathal poison damage :>
01:41:17 <alexjurkiewicz> !source mon_enchant
01:41:17 <Sequell> 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-ench.cc#L2186
01:41:17 <alexjurkiewicz> !source mon_enchant 2
01:41:17 <Sequell> 2/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-ench.h#L11
01:43:32 <alexjurkiewicz> hm, i think you can do it in there somewhere
03:12:37 <Rotatell> Stable (0.20) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20.0-14-g326068f
03:14:34 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.21-a0-47-g7c8f537 (34)
05:39:43 <Cheibriados> High score crash and "nimbled to death by software bugs" caused by ASSERT(birth_time) in 'hiscores.cc' at line 1922 failed. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11093 by d3k0
06:16:26 <gammafunk> query Sequell .gfgk
06:22:47 -!- nattefrost_ is now known as nattefrost
06:35:15 <miserium> gammafunk: looks like android builds are good again. Thanks!
08:45:16 <TZer0> !messages
08:45:17 <Sequell> No messages for TZer0.
08:57:04 <wheals> nimbled to death
08:58:48 <wheals> that's what happens when your dex value overflows and statdeath occurs
11:13:20 <nikheizen> Really unwield h - the +4 dire flail "Dragon's Tongue" {protect, Fragile +Fly rN+++ Str+3}? The +4 dire flail "Dragon's Tongue" {protect, Fragile +Fly rN+++ Str+3} crumbles to dust! The +4 dire flail "Dragon's Tongue" {protect, Fragile +Fly rN+++ Str+3} goes still.
11:13:34 <nikheizen> so the dust goes still?
11:22:12 <geekosaur> it still had the flight magic for a moment
12:05:30 <nikheizen> Fragile message spam and prompts are really bad right now in general
12:29:19 <Cheibriados> "Fragile" Randart Property Prompt Spam 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11094 by nikheizen
12:40:04 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir
13:21:10 <Cheibriados> Polearm and ranged tabbing is broken when 1-9 keys are bound to CMD_TARGET_* 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11095 by moxian
14:38:55 <Cheibriados> Information leak about armour of poison resistance with poisonous vapours 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11096 by moxian
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16:32:55 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/545 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/545
16:32:55 <Cheibriados> 03Bill Christian Tyros02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/545 * 0.21-a0-48-g05d3eec: Add *_command_keys.txt file for the Workman keyboard layout 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 81+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/05d3eec007b1
16:38:06 <Cheibriados> 03Bill Christian Tyros02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/545 * 0.21-a0-49-ga441810: Fix typo 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a441810e9fef
18:45:40 -!- thurin_ is now known as thurin
18:52:30 <Eksell> Ge0ff (L27 MiTm) ASSERT(!invalid_monster(&mons)) in 'mon-death.cc' at line 1887 failed. (Tar:7)
19:26:26 <Lasty> %git a94d5ab7b7ba6168665dc288095cc9f791d610d0
19:26:26 <Cheibriados> 07Lasty02 * 0.18-a0-1641-ga94d5ab: Slow down the Throwing trolley 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 3 files, 37+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a94d5ab7b7ba
19:26:27 <Sequell> Lasty: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
19:34:37 <Lasty> !tell kramin it is indeed late, but still appreciated! Thanks!
19:34:38 <Sequell> Lasty: OK, I'll let kramin know.
19:47:00 <minmay> Lasty: thanks for inadvertently showing me another throwing bug
19:47:25 <Lasty> minmay:  haha, is that a literal bug or just the weirdness of two conflicting systems?
19:47:43 <minmay> Lasty: no, not that
19:48:29 <minmay> Lasty: when you're wielding a weapon (or at least a launcher) its to-hit bonus applies to anything you throw
19:48:37 <minmay> Lasty: so you can wield sniper to make your large rocks never miss
19:49:15 <minmay> looks like it's only launchers, not melee weapons
19:49:19 <Lasty> minmay: whoa, really? That's a huge issue.
19:49:23 <minmay> yeah uh
19:49:27 <minmay> it is
19:49:32 <Lasty> Hooray, we found the bug of 0.20!
19:49:45 <Lasty> Just in time to abuse it before the tournament ends :p
19:50:02 <Lasty> ironically, I have a character currently in progress that has probably been accidentally abusing this
19:50:07 <minmay> It's not nearly as bad as when it applied the weapon's *damage* to your throwing, at least
19:50:16 <Lasty> heh, true
19:51:20 <minmay> a lot of people have probably been inadvertently using this since wielding a launcher is the easiest way to make autofight work with throwing :P
19:51:32 <Lasty> yeah
19:51:42 <Lasty> plus if you're using throwing you really should be using slings too
19:52:27 <Lasty> minmay: where in code does this happen? I should push a fix.
19:53:12 <minmay> idk, i wielded a launcher to test throwing damage in fsim b/c of your post
19:53:23 <minmay> and i thought "hey wouldn't it be funny if the launcher's enchantment applies to the throwing"
19:53:34 <minmay> and tried giving the longbow some enchantment
19:53:35 <Doesnty> wow
19:53:36 <minmay> and the rest is history
19:53:42 <Doesnty> so large rock crossbows are
19:53:45 <Doesnty> actually a thing already
19:54:18 <Lasty> minmay: lol, huh. I wonder if that's a fsim-only issue? Have you tried the sniper test?
19:54:27 <amalloy> it works
19:54:28 <Lasty> (outside of fsim)
19:54:32 <minmay> It is only to-hit (and the base accuracy of the launcher applies too), not damage, so this is still probably not as broken as using a longbow to fire arrows :P
19:54:32 <Lasty> dang
19:54:39 <minmay> yeah I tested it outside of fsim
19:54:53 <minmay> pretty easy to confirm when wielding sniper and throwing stuff always hits ereshkigal even though all your skills are 0
19:54:57 <Lasty> well, time to track it down :-\
19:55:10 <Lasty> thank you for reporting it
19:56:15 <minmay> ...at least, I *think* the base accuracy applies
20:00:18 <Cheibriados> 03Bill Christian Tyros02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/545 * 0.21-a0-50-g36c0b2f: Switch key replacements for better usability 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/36c0b2f60a96
20:01:26 <Lasty> !source using_weapon
20:01:27 <Sequell> 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/melee-attack.cc#L3493
20:03:40 <Lasty> bool ranged_attack::using_weapon()
20:03:40 <Lasty> {
20:03:40 <Lasty> return weapon && (launch_type == LRET_LAUNCHED
20:03:40 <Lasty> || launch_type == LRET_BUGGY // not initialized
20:03:40 <Lasty> && is_launched(attacker, weapon, *projectile));
20:03:41 <Lasty> }
20:03:57 <Lasty> I guess that must evaluate to true when throwing and holding a launcher?
20:04:29 <Lasty> it should be LRET_THROWN, but maybe it could be LRET_BUGGY?
20:04:53 <Lasty> if we don't initialize it first
20:06:51 <Lasty> !source is_launched
20:06:52 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/item-prop.cc#L2131
20:07:12 <amalloy> Lasty: it's LRET_BUGGY
20:07:18 <Lasty> ah, interesting
20:07:40 <Lasty> it looks like we initialize it on line 39 of ranged-attack.cc
20:08:19 <Lasty> That's the constructor, right?
20:09:29 <amalloy> https://gist.github.com/amalloy/04b8d3d9182734b706325df6cda3e619 if that is useful
20:09:37 <amalloy> !src ranged-attack.cc
20:09:39 <Lasty> thanks
20:09:43 <amalloy> er, i forget
20:09:47 <amalloy> !source ranged-attack.cc
20:09:49 <Sequell> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/ranged-attack.cc
20:09:59 <Lasty> and we shouldn't be able to exit is_launched() without defining a non-buggy lret
20:11:02 <amalloy> !source is_launched
20:11:03 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/item-prop.cc#L2131
20:11:09 <Lasty> amalloy: wait, it looks like we have another lret coming out of is_launched
20:11:12 <Lasty> in your dump
20:11:33 <Lasty> LRET_THROWN is correct there
20:11:52 <Lasty> I'm just gonna throw a bunch of debugging statements around and see what's up
20:12:10 <amalloy> Lasty: er, is it? that gets coerced to a bool
20:13:11 <amalloy> so i think you want to change line 333 to && is_launched(attacker, weapon, *projectile) == LRET_LAUNCHED);
20:15:13 <Lasty> ah, hmm
20:15:16 <Lasty> that makes sense
20:15:19 <amalloy> yes, that fixes it
20:15:22 <amalloy> will commit
20:15:24 <Lasty> thank you!
20:16:04 <Lasty> and thanks again to minmay for the report
20:16:18 <Lasty> amalloy: we should probably cherrypick it back to 0.20
20:16:21 <Cheibriados> 03amalloy02 07* 0.21-a0-48-g2d4c0a5: Don't let equipped-weapon accuracy affect throwing accuracy (minmay) 10(22 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2d4c0a5d2e13
20:16:29 <amalloy> should i cherry-pick?
20:17:59 <amalloy> i can cherry pick it to the branch easily, but i'm not excited about tagging/building a release for it
20:18:35 <Lasty> Yeah, that doesn't exactly sound fun
20:18:48 <Lasty> but we should do it -- it's a biggish bug
20:20:29 <amalloy> does it need anything more than a tag named 0.20.1 to get it to the servers?
20:20:41 <amalloy> i don't mind doing that part as long as i don't have to build the offline releases :P
20:21:52 <gammafunk> you don't need to tag a release
20:21:59 <gammafunk> servers rebuild stable like they rebuild trunk
20:22:02 <amalloy> cool
20:22:20 <gammafunk> most do, at least, some will not update for some time, but that wouldn't really depend on tagging either
20:22:54 <Cheibriados> 03amalloy02 07[stone_soup-0.20] * 0.20.0-15-g7f486f2: Don't let equipped-weapon accuracy affect throwing accuracy (minmay) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7f486f25589b
20:24:12 <Lasty> amalloy: woo, thanks again
20:25:38 <Lasty> I triggered some rebuilds
20:26:01 <amalloy> c-- btw for implicitly converting int enums into bools
20:26:18 <Lasty> haha fair
20:26:21 <amalloy> if we used an enum class here we couldn't have made this mistake
20:27:17 <Eksell> Stable (0.20) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20.0-15-g7f486f2
20:28:43 <Henzell> Stable (0.20) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20.0-15-g7f486f2
20:29:40 <Lasty> cbro rebuilds slowly
20:30:29 <Warrigal> 'Morning, everyone.
20:31:01 <johnstein> ^status
20:31:01 <Rotatell> 65 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=94% (135GB) | RAM usage=55% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 20:31:00 up 98 days,  1:09,  8 users,  load average: 3.05, 2.75, 2.21 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org
20:31:27 <johnstein> wonder if I'll get through the tourney without having to rsync ttyrecs
20:32:17 <Lasty> that's some big disk usage
20:36:06 <Warrigal> Been a while since I last looked at Crawl development...
20:37:08 <Warrigal> I think that in the meantime, I've gotten a new job, moved into an apartment, bought a car, and moved back out of the apartment.
20:37:39 <Warrigal> Anyway, I assume this is the main repository? I haven't actually found anything on the wiki saying so. https://github.com/crawl
20:38:11 <gammafunk> Yes, that's the repo
20:41:30 <Warrigal> I used to find the Crawl repository big and intimidating. Then I got a job fixing bugs in the entire code base of Priority Health. :D
20:41:43 <Rotatell> Stable (0.20) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20.0-15-g7f486f2
20:42:34 <amalloy> man. trying to make launch_retval into a scoped enum so the compiler will prevent the other mistakes like this that we're making. i have encountered _mons_has_usable_ranged_weapon and have a question: should a monster with stones count as having a usable ranged weapon?
20:43:14 <amalloy> i think the answer is no, because it looks like this is used to determine if the monster should try to take wide corners like a centaur to get extra shots at you
20:43:21 <Lasty> ah, yeah, probably not
20:44:03 <amalloy> otoh this function is also used to decide if a monster should throw across obstacles at you?
20:44:04 <Warrigal> If Crawl turns out to be more complicated than our EDI system, I'll be very impressed...
20:44:55 <Lasty> amalloy: sounds like we might need to separate that into two things
20:45:03 <Lasty> "has ranged weapon" versus "acts like has ranged weapon"
20:45:10 <amalloy> indeed
20:45:32 <gammafunk> amalloy: well, I suppose logically it might want to consider stones as ranged weapon. I suppose stones are simply too weak and the seperation Lasty just mentioned might be better
20:45:37 <gammafunk> but there are much stronger things like wands
20:45:48 <amalloy> gammafunk: we're looking at specifically missiles here. tomahawks too
20:45:51 <gammafunk> that's perhaps not even considered in this case, since it's not a rnaged_attack
20:46:07 <gammafunk> yeah, tomahawks and javs are pretty strong
20:46:10 <amalloy> i'm going to do this refactor while only changing behavior that is an obvious bug; stuff that is nebulous i will assume is working as intended until someone else tries to find it
20:55:31 -!- MaxFrosty is now known as MaxFrost
20:57:10 <Cheibriados> 03amalloy02 07* 0.21-a0-49-g7bf2ba4: Convert launch_retval to an enum class 10(4 minutes ago, 10 files, 48+ 47-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7bf2ba42c2f5
21:00:56 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
21:09:55 <Jorgrell> Stable (0.20) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20.0-15-g7f486f2
21:19:28 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-49-g7bf2ba4 (34)
21:26:18 <Warrigal> Well, I'm only getting 531 build errors, that's not too bad.
21:44:55 <bokgo> hey so my games bugged it keeps crashing when i try to enter d13 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/sleeves/sleeves.txt
21:45:15 <bokgo> somebody said someone here might b able to help
21:45:41 <bokgo> also thanks for the iron troll azure jelly and centaur warrior on d8
21:45:44 <bokgo> i appreciated that
21:46:11 <geekosaur> !lm sleeves crash
21:46:13 <Sequell> 7. [2017-06-09 01:30:09] sleeves the Covert (L14 FeWr of Sif Muna) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 1081: no upstairs on D:13??? (D:13)
21:46:30 <geekosaur> and not reported in here, implying it crashed again while making the crash report
21:47:53 <geekosaur> !crashlog sleeves
21:47:54 <Sequell> 7. sleeves, XL14 FeWr, T:53932 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/sleeves/crash-sleeves-20170609-013009.txt
21:48:54 <geekosaur> hm, that doesn't look broken. wonder if crash reporting is failing for cbro for some reason
21:49:09 <geekosaur> I mean, doesn't look like a double crash
21:51:44 <advil> save backup would help for that
21:52:22 <advil> !crashlog -2
21:52:23 <Sequell> No milestones for -2 (crash).
21:52:28 <advil> !crashlog * -2
21:52:30 <Sequell> 17748/17749. sleeves, XL14 FeWr, T:53935 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/sleeves/crash-sleeves-20170609-012932.txt
21:52:36 <advil> !crashlog * -1
21:52:37 <Sequell> 17749. sleeves, XL14 FeWr, T:53932 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/sleeves/crash-sleeves-20170609-013009.txt
21:52:38 <advil> !crashlog * -3
21:52:40 <Sequell> 17747/17749. sleeves, XL14 FeWr, T:53878 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/sleeves/crash-sleeves-20170609-012900.txt
21:52:41 <advil> heh
21:52:44 <advil> !crashlog * -4
21:52:45 <Sequell> 17746/17749. sleeves, XL14 FeWr, T:53876 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/sleeves/crash-sleeves-20170609-012749.txt
21:52:46 <advil> !crashlog * -5
21:52:48 <Sequell> 17745/17749. sleeves, XL14 FeWr, T:53900 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/sleeves/crash-sleeves-20170609-012716.txt
21:52:50 <advil> !crashlog * -6
21:52:51 <Sequell> 17744/17749. Ge0ff, XL27 MiTm, T:76372 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Ge0ff/crash-Ge0ff-20170608-225208.txt
21:54:29 <advil> pain bond + shadow creatures, I guess
21:54:40 <advil> +irradiate
22:00:26 <johnstein> !crash * cbro
22:00:35 <johnstein> !crashlog * cbro
22:00:42 <Sequell> 1312. sleeves, XL14 FeWr, T:53932 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/sleeves/crash-sleeves-20170609-013009.txt
22:00:42 <Sequell> 1312. sleeves, XL14 FeWr, T:53932 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/sleeves/crash-sleeves-20170609-013009.txt
22:00:56 <johnstein> !crashlog * cbro name!=sleeves
22:00:58 <Sequell> 1307. rogsnak, XL14 DsFE, T:26154 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/rogsnak/crash-rogsnak-20170607-011023.txt
22:01:50 <advil> doesn't appear that that got reported either
22:02:13 <johnstein> does Rotatell or Sequell report crashes?
22:02:19 <johnstein> probably Rotatell
22:02:29 <johnstein> !cmd !crashlog
22:02:30 <Sequell> Command: !crashlog => !lm ${*:-*} crash -log
22:02:52 <johnstein> or maybe not
22:04:21 <advil> Rotatell does report crashes, but the last one I see is from 5/21
22:04:22 <gammafunk> johnstein: crashes are reported by the bot for the server where it happens
22:05:55 <gammafunk> I assume by report you mean the crash message in this channel
22:06:06 <advil> yes
22:06:11 <advil> at least, that's what I mean
22:06:17 <gammafunk> crashes have a special field in the milestone entry so sequell can look them up
22:06:22 <johnstein> ok. how do you force a crash?
22:06:32 <gammafunk> & ctrl-c iirc
22:06:38 <gammafunk> look in the wiz command help
22:06:53 <Rotatell> cbrotest (L1 GrCj) ERROR in 'wizard.cc' at line 78: Intentional crash (D:1)
22:06:57 <gammafunk> rip
22:07:02 <johnstein> that was trunk
22:07:38 <johnstein> !lm cbrotest -log
22:07:40 <Sequell> 156. cbrotest, XL1 GrCj, T:12 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/cbrotest/crash-cbrotest-20170609-020644.txt
22:07:44 <johnstein> er
22:07:50 <johnstein> !crashlog cbrotest
22:07:51 <Sequell> 4. cbrotest, XL1 GrCj, T:12 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/cbrotest/crash-cbrotest-20170609-020644.txt
22:07:54 <johnstein> hm
22:08:10 <gammafunk> is there a problem with crash reporting?
22:08:29 <johnstein> that's what I thought I read above
22:09:06 <geekosaur> bokgo/sleeves had 5 crashes in a row, !crash / !crashlog shows them fine, they were not reported
22:09:12 <Rotatell> cbrotest (L1 GrCj) ERROR in 'wizard.cc' at line 78: Intentional crash (D:1)
22:09:25 <johnstein> the crashed on 0.20 aren't reporting. trunk is
22:09:28 <johnstein> crashes
22:09:34 <johnstein> it's probably me forgetting to do something again
22:09:53 <Rotatell> cbrotest (L1 HuFi) ERROR in 'main.cc' at line 728: Intentional crash (D:1)
22:09:53 <geekosaur> was wondering if maybe an 0.20 config issue
22:10:00 <Rotatell> cbrotest (L1 HuFi) ERROR in 'main.cc' at line 728: Intentional crash (D:1)
22:10:08 <johnstein> that was 0.19 both times
22:12:59 <Rotatell> cbrotest (L2 BaSk) ERROR in 'wizard.cc' at line 78: Intentional crash (D:1)
22:13:01 <gammafunk> yeah I see those milestone/logfile lists in sizzell.pl
22:13:05 <johnstein> there we go
22:13:12 <gammafunk> BaSk in the bugs
22:13:14 <johnstein> I forgot to add 0.20 to sizzel
22:13:23 <johnstein> sizzell.pl
22:13:36 <johnstein> and since Kramin has Postquell doing announcements, I never realized it
22:14:02 <johnstein> Rotatell asked me its purpose. "You serve us crashlogs"
22:14:25 <johnstein> and I guess dumps too
22:14:36 <johnstein> we are good now.
22:14:41 <johnstein> !crashlog * cbro t
22:14:43 <Sequell> 11. cbrotest, XL2 BaSk, T:626 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/cbrotest/crash-cbrotest-20170609-021251.txt
22:14:44 <gammafunk> I don't think it's even needed for dumps
22:14:50 <johnstein> ^dump
22:14:50 <Rotatell> http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/morgue/johnstein/johnstein.txt
22:14:51 <gammafunk> !cmd &dump
22:14:52 <Sequell> Command: &dump => !lm ${1:-.} fmt:"\$(=morgue_link ${2:-${src}} \$(if \$(match -a ${3:-${cv}}) trunk ${3:-${cv}}))/${name}/${name}.txt" stub:"No milestones for $(name_fixup ${1:-${user}})."
22:15:04 <gammafunk> yeah but that can just come from the sequell command
22:15:04 <johnstein> yea, if you use &
22:15:06 <johnstein> &dump
22:15:10 <Sequell> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/johnstein/johnstein.txt
22:15:12 <johnstein> so much slower
22:15:20 <gammafunk> the thing is everyone uses &dump
22:15:22 <johnstein> &whereis
22:15:23 <Sequell> ^whereis johnstein
22:15:23 <Rotatell> johnstein the Severer (L23 MiGl), a worshipper of Uskayaw, saved on Crypt:3 on 2017-06-08 after 90200 turns.
22:15:26 <gammafunk> because remembering those prefixes...
22:15:35 <gammafunk> also you can query trunk vs 0.20
22:15:38 <gammafunk> not sure if you can with ^dump
22:15:40 <johnstein> you don't have to remember prefixes if you always play on the same server
22:15:45 <johnstein> hm
22:15:50 <johnstein> ^dump 0.19
22:15:50 <Rotatell> No where information for 019.
22:15:53 <johnstein> probably not
22:15:56 <gammafunk> FeelsBadMan
22:16:00 <johnstein> ^watch
22:16:00 <Rotatell> No current CBRO game for johnstein.
22:16:02 <advil> there's only one place for a current morgue, no?
22:16:08 <johnstein> &watchlink
22:16:10 <Sequell> http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-johnstein
22:16:16 <gammafunk> yeah that's more a thing for morgues, what I said, true
22:16:30 <gammafunk> &watch
22:16:32 <Sequell> http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-gammafunk
22:16:34 <johnstein> ^watch knows you aren't playing. &watchlink doesn't (but &watchlink isn't case sensitive)
22:16:34 <Rotatell> No current CBRO game for knows.
22:16:35 <gammafunk> is what I use
22:16:38 <johnstein> &watch
22:16:40 <Sequell> http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-johnstein
22:16:54 <johnstein> I'd like the two commands to be merged but I'm too dumb to know how
22:17:04 <johnstein> ^watch Axe
22:17:04 <Rotatell> Watch Axe at: http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-Axe
22:17:04 <gammafunk> I don't forward all those individual commands to bots in beem/cerebot
22:17:10 <johnstein> ^watch AXE
22:17:10 <Rotatell> No current CBRO game for AXE.
22:17:14 <gammafunk> so anyone in those is using the sequell command as well
22:17:15 <johnstein> &watch AXE
22:17:17 <Sequell> http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-Axe
22:17:36 <johnstein> yea. better to not have to rely on the server bots too much
22:18:00 <gammafunk> well, server *is* kind of slow for a lot of queries and gets so much traffic
22:18:10 <gammafunk> but yeah there's some redundancy between server bots and sequell
22:18:20 <gammafunk> ser
22:18:25 <gammafunk> *er, s/server/sequell/
22:18:36 <gammafunk> sequell is a server too...
22:19:03 <gammafunk> fr: sequell_lang, all messages look like sequellese
22:20:12 <Cheibriados> 03Bill Christian Tyros02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/545 * 0.21-a0-52-g1d17876: Merge remote-tracking branch 'refs/remotes/crawl/master' 10(2 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1d178762f444
22:26:05 <johnstein> server bots can scan inprogress directories
22:27:09 <johnstein> %git :/minmay
22:27:09 <Cheibriados> 07amalloy02 * 0.20.0-15-g7f486f2: Don't let equipped-weapon accuracy affect throwing accuracy (minmay) 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7f486f25589b
22:27:33 <johnstein> that probably wasn't the smoking gun for the slight win % increase was it?
22:27:52 <johnstein> !tstats 11
22:27:59 <alexjurkiewicz> i can't imagine accuracy is that important
22:28:01 <johnstein> !tstats 12
22:28:06 <johnstein> agreed
22:28:06 <alexjurkiewicz> how often do people throw?
22:28:10 <Sequell> Stats after 11 days (t): 2614 players, 928 runers, 451 winners, 1214 wins, 53573 games, winrate 2.27%, total player time 3y+90d+3:49:43.
22:28:30 <Sequell> Stats after 12 days (t): 2704 players, 961 runers, 474 winners, 1294 wins, 57632 games, winrate 2.25%, total player time 3y+182d+3:20:55.
22:28:32 <johnstein> but figured that if you hit from ranged more that's fewer enemies that can hurt you
22:28:52 <gammafunk> !tstats 12 t0.19
22:28:54 <gammafunk> !tstats 12 t0.18
22:29:14 <johnstein> we might be on day 11
22:29:32 <gammafunk> sequell is using UTC right
22:29:34 <johnstein> oh maybe not
22:29:45 <johnstein> I can never get t right
22:30:22 <johnstein> I wish I could do a programmatic call to sequell for tstats. I thought Kramin's API might do it but I don't think it can
22:30:22 <Sequell> Stats after 12 days (t0.19): 2815 players, 892 runers, 448 winners, 1086 wins, 60569 games, winrate 1.79%, total player time 3y+109d+20:14:13.
22:30:58 <johnstein> almost 80 more days of playtime
22:31:07 <johnstein> maybe crawlers are just more cautious
22:31:22 <Sequell> Stats after 12 days (t0.18): 2427 players, 780 runers, 403 winners, 1007 wins, 52284 games, winrate 1.93%, total player time 3y+31d+9:45:45.
22:31:33 <gammafunk> !calc 2.25 / 1.79
22:31:34 <Sequell> 1.26
22:32:09 <bokgo> k ima just kill that felid game then since i doubt its gonna get fixed anytime soon
22:52:35 <nicolae-> agreed
22:57:27 <gammafunk> nicolae-: I wasn't sure at first, but you've convinced me
22:57:39 <nicolae-> i'm glad
22:58:05 <gammafunk> The cash delivery you sent also made the choice easier
22:58:30 <gammafunk> I'll take a look at that vault bug when I get a chance, have been busy these last few days
22:58:44 <nicolae-> no hurry, as i also have been busy and have not had the energy to stare at vaults
22:59:00 <gammafunk> look at what tedronai has been working on
22:59:05 <gammafunk> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/205316046230388737/322474427277115403/unknown.png
22:59:47 <nicolae-> lol, is the gimmick that all the caged monsters can still do things through grates
23:00:10 <gammafunk> most can't through silence
23:00:31 <gammafunk> but yeah after silence is gone
23:00:35 <nicolae-> silence?
23:00:42 <nicolae-> oh, is the ghosty lady in the middle there a silent spectre
23:00:42 <gammafunk> look carefully!
23:01:02 <gammafunk> yes
23:01:07 <nicolae-> lollin
23:01:09 <nicolae-> that's rough
23:01:10 <gammafunk> and you can see the purple silence field
23:01:11 <nicolae-> i love it
23:01:21 <nicolae-> ah! yes, there it is
23:02:52 <nicolae-> transporters are pretty great imo
23:03:23 <nicolae-> i'm trying to think of things to use them for besides cordoning off challenge areas (chareas)
23:03:32 <gammafunk> they have some issues I need to fix in 0.21, but they are fun to play with
23:03:40 <gammafunk> one thing I want to do, if you have any ideas for this
23:03:55 <gammafunk> is a transporter-themed shoals end that also isn't about just sealing things aways
23:04:04 <gammafunk> but a bit more about using them for mobility
23:04:12 <nicolae-> i've had ideas of that sort, yeah
23:04:43 <gammafunk> working with the shoals layout presents a challenge if you don't want to go encompass, but it's nice to use the layout if possible
23:04:49 <nicolae-> one idea i had was a sort of big room with a big monster in it and transporters along the edges so you can continually change location, so you get chased and then suddenly put a bunch of distance between yourself
23:05:06 <gammafunk> oh, yes, have you seen the_bubble_gammafunk_roulette?
23:05:11 <gammafunk> !vault the_bubble_gammafunk_roulette
23:05:13 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/the_bubble.des#L116
23:05:20 <gammafunk> it's that idea, just as a smaller scale
23:05:25 <gammafunk> *at a
23:06:34 <nicolae-> nice
23:07:03 <gammafunk> nothing particularly fancy, in part since not tons of room to work with in that vault
23:09:14 <nicolae-> is roulette going to get messed up if you implement distinct landing-space tiles
23:09:56 <gammafunk> it will need adjustment, yeah
23:10:04 <nicolae-> rip
23:10:13 <gammafunk> but the vault concept will still be fine
23:10:20 <gammafunk> I'll just put landings next to each teleporter
23:10:36 <gammafunk> so they have to move one square over to get to the transporter
23:11:39 <nicolae-> yeah, it's just a little thing
23:11:44 <nicolae-> but the aesthetics...
23:12:44 <gammafunk> rework the vault to feature transporter mimics
23:13:48 <nicolae-> *kisses fingertips* bellissimo
23:17:17 <minmay> v   fire vortex (dormant)
23:17:18 <minmay> anyone want to explain why this is on lair:5
23:18:09 <gammafunk> there's a vault that places those
23:18:22 <gammafunk> try to guess the theme of the vault
23:18:30 <minmay> red monsters
23:18:37 <gammafunk> FIRE
23:32:31 <gammafunk> =nemelex VSVM
23:32:34 <Sequell> Defined keyword: nchoice => DEAM|DDAK|HOCj|BaEn|FoEn|MiVM|HaIE|VSEE|FeNe|GhWz|CeFE|SpTm|MuAM|TeWr|VpSk|KoAE|GrSu|OgEE|BaHu|MfCj|VpFE|DEAs|HOSu|BaAr|HaAE|FoWz|TeIE|VSVM
23:34:17 <gammafunk> !kw newogres
23:34:18 <Sequell> Keyword: newogres => vlong>=0.20-a0-294-g8e39459
23:34:25 <gammafunk> %git 8e39459
23:34:25 <Cheibriados> 07MarvinPA02 * 0.20-a0-294-g8e39459: Increase Ogre spellcasting apts, decrease M&F apt 10(6 months ago, 4 files, 24+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8e39459e6cb5
23:47:30 <koboldina> if josephine is half undead shouldn't she be vuln holy