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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 01:54:26 !messages 01:54:27 No messages for TZer0. 01:56:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:57:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:19:23 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-903-g7e3609c (34) 02:20:08 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:22:18 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:22:35 n1, that line is in more than just dilbert 3 02:22:35 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:22:58 yes I know but it's weird that I just saw the line the other day 02:25:16 dilbert 3 is brilliant but im mad that it gets credit for that line instead of the original source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRgh9YiEbC0 02:27:27 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:38:29 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:39:30 what's a dilbert 3? 02:47:07 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:49:27 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:49:45 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:51:56 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:57:31 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:58:37 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-903-g7e3609c 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:06:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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Can slow enemies. 16:15:49 !learn edit whirlwind s/it. .*/it./ 16:15:50 No change: regex `it. .*` does not match `see {wu_jian[3]}` 16:16:06 !learn edit wu_jian[3] s/it. .*/it./ 16:16:07 wu jian[3/8]: Whirlwind: Triggered by moving from a tile adjacent to an enemy to another tile adjacent to it. 16:17:20 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:17:27 -!- mobydollar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:18:53 -!- rax_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:55 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:22:18 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:23:47 -!- Elsi_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:24:28 -!- tcsc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:25:10 -!- amalloy_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:10 -!- eb has quit [*.net *.split] 16:29:11 -!- yesno has quit [*.net *.split] 16:29:11 -!- jefus- has quit [*.net *.split] 16:29:11 -!- rumflump has quit [*.net *.split] 16:29:11 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [*.net *.split] 16:29:11 -!- staplegun has quit [*.net *.split] 16:29:11 -!- M-bbigras has quit [*.net 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0.19-a0-674-g9f24bd5: Remove item interactions from shafts (Rast). 10(9 months ago, 5 files, 0+ 80-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9f24bd514912 19:43:39 !blame2 wheals 19:43:39 wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 19:43:49 (actually wheals mentions that there are no others callers) 19:44:01 good job, wheals 19:44:46 don't worry, +wheals, this was done by a different person 19:45:03 !praise wheals 19:45:04 Did you mean: !blame wheals 19:45:05 The +wheals I know would always fully investigate and prune code 19:45:15 nice command 19:45:17 Sequell is harsh 19:45:44 I'm going to guess that the shaft thing there was the only use left of item transit 19:45:53 probably 19:46:11 unless items associated with transiting monsters use it 19:47:08 -!- Pleasingfungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:48:57 wasn't there something abount unrand generation 19:48:59 in Pan 19:49:37 that's probably not done this way if so 19:49:48 unrands don't generate in pan 19:50:10 -!- dextur has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:50:32 well no one go try to steal these millimarvins from me then 19:50:47 these are all mine you locusts! 19:50:50 !tell alexjurkiewicz i' 19:50:51 Pleasingfungus: OK, I'll let alexjurkiewicz know. 19:50:53 fuck 19:51:08 also hi all 19:51:11 he got told 19:55:06 -!- n_crm has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:56:24 -!- Shimatora has quit [Quit: nap] 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:36 You offended me 20:01:38 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:11:37 -!- veid has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:11:49 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:13:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:18:31 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 20:22:09 -!- manman has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:28:06 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 20:28:45 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:29:59 You must have discussed this over here: who's tweaking WJC? 20:30:16 I have some ideas and don't know where to put them. 20:37:54 -!- 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Use !messages to read them. 20:59:04 !messages 20:59:05 (1/3) Pleasingfungus said (1h 8m 14s ago): i' 20:59:59 Pleasingfungus: i'll check out the update. are you posting source code btw? 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:18 ah, i don't think i've uploaded the update 21:00:34 going to make a fresh windows build shortly... can upload a new version of then 21:01:16 source code is currently private because i'm excessively paranoid, though i can share it if there's a reason - why do you ask? 21:02:40 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 21:06:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:10:59 -!- Fixer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:13:31 -!- Barfbag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:13:52 dpeg: yes 21:14:16 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:16:38 minmay: I am happy with Zin no longer being "go there to cleanse yourself" 21:19:37 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:54 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:21:21 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 21:21:46 minmay: but I am not sure how or when to use the one-off power now 21:22:59 dpeg: I don't think zin was really ever for that? sanctuary is the main attraction; cure all mutations is seldom useful since cure mut potions have always existed 21:23:48 minmay: yes, I agree. Could also ask the other way around: is the CM power still sensible? 21:23:50 of course cure all mutations is even less useful now, hard to imagine how it could be changed though 21:24:26 minmay: cure all and then 100% guaranteed no mutations incoming (so you stay pure if you stay with Zin) 21:24:29 the suggestion to make zin just remove your mutations as you gain piety is a lot better mechanically but it's also a big disadvantageous conduct on a god that doesn't really need more disadvantages 21:24:34 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:25:07 ...that's pretty much what Zin has now, since you get full non-Contam mutation immunity at high piety 21:25:30 unless you mean Zin should make you immune to Contam mutations too 21:25:52 didn't mean that, and don't think that's desired 21:26:20 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:27:15 I'm tempted to say that removing mutations isn't robust enough to be such a big part of a god at all - it's already quite easy to avoid any meaningful mutation as an atheist character 21:27:19 that would actually be un-desireable? 21:28:08 ProzacElf: not caring about contam is ghouls' gimmick, though it's a lot less noticeable now that haste spell is gone 21:28:24 so I guess current Zin is okay, if you removed mutations at full piety and take care of when you expend piety 21:28:47 (as far as "Zin the mutation controlling god" goes) 21:28:51 haha 21:29:19 i thought ghouls' gimmick was "terrible stats but heal by eating" 21:29:37 It is kind of weird that worshippers of the anti-mutation god can no longer quaff the anti-mutation potion 21:29:43 I agree with that 21:29:43 because unless you're with chei, you're probably valuing armor and hitting dudes 21:29:51 a lot more than "casting spells" 21:29:53 ProzacElf: a species can have more than one distinguishing feature 21:30:00 ah right 21:30:12 for example high elves were good at air magic and they were also tall and pretty 21:30:46 centaurs are fast and they're also fast 21:33:04 -!- Boatshow has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:33:45 oh also this idea to merge WJC and uskayaw is great 21:33:58 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:35:09 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 21:40:26 if they do merge, I like WJC as a name more than usk 21:40:32 minmay: yes, I wanted to ask Lasty on this one 21:40:50 Floodkiller: bikeshed! On 3, 2, 1... 21:43:55 -!- Pleasingfungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50:43 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:56:23 -!- gclaugus has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7] 21:58:25 -!- WebFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:05 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: sleep] 22:12:10 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:12:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:17:04 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:18:49 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:19:38 minmay: is the proposal to replace Stomp w/ the martial moves? I thought about that, and I kinda like it. 22:19:38 Lasty: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:20:57 !tell rumflump Ru applies a piety fuzz before assigning piety. I don't know if in trunk it happens during estimation or after, but if it's after, then that's why 22:20:57 Lasty: OK, I'll let rumflump know. 22:22:44 Lasty: this is the source https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=23300 22:23:17 Lasty: mainly the gods are trying to do the same thing and gating martial attacks with usk piety would solve a lot of their problems 22:23:33 yep 22:26:24 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 22:26:29 -!- adventuro has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:30:42 hm merging like that sounds potentially interesting, could maybe keep lunge on 1* (with no bonus effects or anything) too since with usk-style piety it'd work without encouraging kiting or whatever 22:39:29 -!- orbisvicis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:41:01 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:54:05 If we merge them, I think we'd want to remove all the extra damage and statuses 22:54:19 both because they'd be unnecessary and because the god is powerful enough without them. 22:54:38 And also because the god gives a context to the abilities that makes them interesting/compelling w/o gimmicks 22:54:55 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:57:24 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:58:25 -!- WebFungus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:47 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 23:03:02 man, people are really salty over the wew jean changes 23:04:09 man, people are really salty. 23:04:14 FTFY 23:11:58 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:12:01 -!- DarkwingDuck has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:18:36 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:20:24 -!- DarkwingDuck_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:37:04 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 23:49:00 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev