00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:02:00 clear your des cache 00:04:16 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: for type string you do want 00:04:55 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: is for the C string library (which works with char *s, not the string class): strcmp, strcpy, etc 00:04:58 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:06:10 ok, my new error is: ./achievement.h:7:5: error: unknown type name 'string'; did you mean 'std::string'? 00:06:21 here's the bones of achievements: http://dpaste.com/352VZHR -- doesn't compile 00:06:37 I think there are a few problems here... 00:07:52 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: achievements.cc should #include "AppHdr.h" as its first header file 00:08:54 aha! I see that sets a default namespace 00:09:10 <|amethyst> it pulls in the std:: namespace 00:09:22 <|amethyst> also, I think achievement.h should be merged into either achievement-data.h or achievements.h, depending on whether you want it to be public 00:09:44 <|amethyst> maybe achievement-type.h as well 00:10:02 hm, nothing in docs/develop/levels for clear des cache, can I buy a vowel geekosaur :D 00:10:15 just for simplicity? 00:10:40 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: yeah 00:10:43 just delete the saves folder 00:10:47 !seen Kramin 00:10:47 I last saw Kramin at Sat Feb 18 05:17:56 2017 UTC (2w 1d 23h 52m 50s ago) saying 'aussie server or japan should be ok for SEA?' on ##crawl-dev. 00:10:49 rumflump, find the saves dir and remove its des/ and db/ subdirs 00:11:03 they will be rebuilt next time you run crawl 00:11:03 ahh, that makes sense, thanks 00:11:13 hmm? 00:11:13 Kramin: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:11:20 !messages 00:11:20 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: probably it doesn't need to be public so can just go into achievement-data.h 00:11:21 (1/1) n1 said (3d 22h 43m 7s ago): is this possible: dynamic sequell kw which maps a certain nick to all the people who have talked on irc in the last 20 minutes 00:11:50 Kramin: I made Cerebot, running on the roguelikes discord 00:11:51 yeah, it shouldn't 00:12:01 which has the old Kramell functionality 00:12:01 gammafunk, oh nice 00:12:06 so you don't have to worry about running that there 00:12:11 cool 00:12:12 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: also, you will have to write those entries in achievement-data.h differently 00:12:26 could you run it on crawl-anz too? 00:12:29 yeah.. I copied off http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/map/map/map/ but it's not working 00:12:44 yeah, I think I just need to give you the link 00:12:45 one sec 00:12:46 map map map 00:12:57 oh right I have to invite the bot 00:12:57 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: because assignment statements like the second and third lines there only work inside a function 00:14:05 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: maybe map achievements = { { ACHIEVEMENT_ENTER_LAIR, { "Welcome to the Jungle", "Enter the Lair of the Beasts" } }, { ACHIEVEMENT_FIRST_BLOOD, { "First Blood", "Kill a monster" } } } 00:14:17 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: with appropriate indentation etc 00:14:32 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: oh, and make it static 00:14:47 <|amethyst> our convention with -data.h files is that they're only intended to be #included in one place 00:14:58 i guess I can drop the std:: too 00:14:58 <|amethyst> hm 00:15:12 <|amethyst> actually, I guess you can use const instead of static, since const implies static 00:15:40 <|amethyst> also, naming suggestion: 00:16:13 <|amethyst> make enum achievement_type instead enum class achievement { enter_lair, first_blood } 00:16:30 <|amethyst> and then you'd write achievement::enter_lair instead of ACHIEVEMENT_ENTER_LAIR 00:16:51 i originally was doing that... but I changed for some reason 00:16:54 <|amethyst> you'll have to rename struct achievement 00:17:03 <|amethyst> but that can be struct achievement_data 00:17:08 oh yes, that's why 00:17:24 <|amethyst> the enum is the one you'll be using more widely 00:17:31 <|amethyst> so IMO it's the one that should have the simpler name 00:17:36 true 00:19:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:20:03 achievements.cc:11:22: error: no viable overloaded operator[] for type 'const map' 00:20:06 return achievements[cheevo]; 00:20:08 ~~~~~~~~~~~~^~~~~~~ 00:20:12 isn't the [] operator meant to be defined by default? 00:20:45 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:01 <|amethyst> what are the parameters to that function? 00:21:10 <|amethyst> achievement cheevo? 00:21:11 static achievement_data _get_achievement(achievement cheevo) 00:21:18 <|amethyst> oh, right 00:21:43 <|amethyst> with a const map you can't use [] because it has that stupid insert-if-missing thing 00:21:46 <|amethyst> hm 00:21:51 achievement is so semantically satiated rn 00:22:14 ah. find then? 00:22:35 fiddly though 00:22:46 <|amethyst> return *map_find(achievements, cheevo) is our wrapper 00:23:02 i guess for code quality reasons I should have a compile check the size of achievements and achievement is the same 00:23:04 <|amethyst> written that way it assumes it will be found 00:23:05 <|amethyst> hm 00:23:25 <|amethyst> I wonder if it might be better to make it a FixedVector 00:23:43 <|amethyst> then you'd get asserts if you accessed an out-of-bounds element 00:23:56 <|amethyst> instead of a map 00:24:01 I wanted a data structure where the order was irrelevant, wouldn't a fixedvector require iterating over elements til you find the right one? 00:24:07 ...much as we do now with this map 00:24:56 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:18 <|amethyst> ah, yes, fixedvector would require that either you require the entries in achievement-data.h be in the right order, or that you scan at least once (either every time you do a lookup, or once to build an index) 00:25:59 <|amethyst> err, that came out funny re "require" 00:26:06 *map_find(achievements, cheevo) <-- shouldn't that be achievements::find(cheevo) ? 00:26:16 I guess not: error: 'achievements' is not a class, namespace, or enumeration 00:26:28 <|amethyst> achievements.find(cheevo) does something similar 00:26:42 <|amethyst> but .find gives you the pair, not the second element 00:26:57 <|amethyst> err 00:27:00 oh, map_find is from crawl? 00:27:02 !source map_find 00:27:03 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/libutil.h#L144 00:27:11 <|amethyst> an iterator, which you dereference to get the pair 00:27:25 <|amethyst> so you need something like achievements.find(cheevo)->second 00:27:27 i was just wondering hello 00:27:52 it's... compiling! 00:28:36 pure ownage 00:30:10 enum class is much nicer than enum isnt it 00:30:27 <|amethyst> yes, unless you need to use it as an integer 00:30:37 <|amethyst> (which would be another disadvantage of FixedVector) 00:30:55 the inability to do so sounds like a good bug catcher here 00:31:21 <|amethyst> you can still explicitly cast it 00:31:39 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-830-g2c9a30d (34) 00:31:42 wow, it works! I can add achievements now 00:31:42 <|amethyst> but there is no implicit conversion to an integer type 00:31:46 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 00:32:05 <|amethyst> also, I'm sure you intended it for testing and are aware of this 00:32:15 <|amethyst> but the Lair achievement currently works for any branch :) 00:32:16 all branches 00:32:25 <|amethyst> well, almost any 00:32:46 thanks for the help here, I know a little bit more about C++ / crawl code 00:32:53 add a cheevo for getting cursed by a mummy 00:33:12 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: oh, did achievements.cc compile? 00:33:25 yes, let me dpaste the current state 00:33:31 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: I was going to say you need .c_str() on those arguments to mprf in celebrate 00:33:42 <|amethyst> or make them into const char * in the data structure 00:33:43 that one I solved myself :) http://dpaste.com/3G0MG0G 00:34:06 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: you'll want to list all the .h files in the vcxproj 00:35:13 Lots of quirks with travel exclusion zones and jianjumping 00:35:30 since this will be an april fool's patch, I'm going to try and keep all the logic for cheevos in their own file 00:35:43 which might involve some ugly use of player props and lambdas 00:35:55 you can walljump into an excluded zone without a warning, and will get a warning if you try to walljump into a wall that would be excluded if it was otherwise a floor tile 00:35:57 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: are there going to be unlocks? 00:36:20 |amethyst: is there a way to store cross-game state for online play? 00:36:28 the .prf file, I suppose 00:36:39 -!- minotaur_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:36:41 <|amethyst> or the lua persist stuff 00:37:05 if (you.achieved(kill-a-monster) 00:37:05 no idea what that is, but if it's not player editable, sounds possible! 00:37:11 qw has a persist thing 00:37:25 I mean it's not just for qw 00:37:33 but qw uses it, so it might have interesting code 00:37:39 !source force_more 00:37:40 Can't find force_more. 00:37:44 <|amethyst> it's not safe against players with clua 00:37:45 !source more 00:37:45 1/3. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/menu.h#L406 00:38:27 <|amethyst> I guess it would be theoretically possible to have a dlua-side equivalent that isn't player-touchable 00:38:30 what would be the most reliable way to colour the achievement message? I feel like updating defaults would not work if players have customised rcs neccessarily, and it's very important EVERYONE sees these messages 00:38:47 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: Blah 00:39:05 -!- yeeve has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:39:07 <|amethyst> doesn't work in all contexts, but ought to work in the message area anyway 00:39:43 <|amethyst> that will override whatever options the user has set, since the user's color tags would be nested around these 00:39:54 perfect 00:40:16 <|amethyst> hm 00:40:35 <|amethyst> the "right" way to do it would probably be a new message channel 00:40:43 <|amethyst> but that's not worth it for an AFJ 00:40:44 _Achievement unlocked! Welcome to the Jungle (Enter the Lair of the Beasts) 00:40:48 so close 00:41:03 oh, i didn't close a tag 00:42:16 vi message.cc 00:42:21 oops 00:48:25 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:42 !source make_stringf 00:53:43 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/stringutil.cc#L246 00:53:47 -!- cxr has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:53:56 oh that's a helpful one 00:54:35 hm, how did htis file get skipped int he great renaming 00:54:41 amalloy_: shouldnt stringutil.cc be string-util.cc 00:54:54 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:55:19 also: makeitem.cc 00:59:45 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:06:31 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:23 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:08:57 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:13:04 here's a branch with a few cheevos implemented: https://github.com/alexjurkiewicz/crawl-ref/tree/positive-reinforcement 01:13:38 next steps: 1) support cheevos that require internal state (kill 3 adders in a row) 2) unlockables 01:13:51 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:13:56 3) cosmetics (use some unused tiles?) 01:14:09 help appreciated 01:17:49 -!- thurin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:22:19 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-830-g2c9a30d (34) 01:27:08 -!- orbisvicis has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:33:46 -!- glaas has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7] 01:38:38 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:45:34 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:07:18 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-830-g2c9a30d 02:11:35 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:11:43 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:14:23 -!- hittemvvvmobile has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:14:25 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:15:52 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:18:25 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:21:40 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 02:22:16 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 02:26:06 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:27:50 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:28:35 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:35:12 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:40 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 02:54:48 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:55:21 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-830-g2c9a30d 02:59:23 -!- wasd64 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:06:11 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:16:09 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 03:16:45 -!- amnesiac is now known as Amnesiac 03:18:32 !messages 03:18:33 (1/3) Brannock said (12h 37m 43s ago): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/brannock/morgue-brannock-20170305-193913.txt Got my Wu Jian win on the first try. I got much more mileage out of Lunge and Wall Jump than Whirlwind. I think 70% is too large of a nerf. 80% along with higher slow would be OK. 03:19:26 !messages 03:19:26 (1/2) Brannock said (12h 37m 54s ago): Serpent's Lash and Heaven on Earth are fantastic abilities, though, and frequently saved my bacon. I felt extremely fragile around midgame before I transitioned into heavy armor. Had to frequently lash/cloud to escape bad situations. 03:19:27 !messages 03:19:28 (1/1) Brannock said (12h 35m 37s ago): If you can figure out how to get the WJC martial arts actions into the action log (see end of logfile) that would be good too. Unsure if that's possible, I haven't looked into the code myself. 03:24:36 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:27:21 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-830-g2c9a30d (34) 03:27:53 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:28:35 -!- o232k has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:32:41 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:48:20 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01:35 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 04:01:54 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:02:39 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:12:45 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 04:16:29 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:20:47 -!- tw12we has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:21:01 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:21:33 -!- cxr has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:29:50 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:54:45 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:57:46 -!- wasd64 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:07:28 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:15:32 -!- hittemvvvhard has joined ##crawl-dev 05:18:44 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:19:49 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:20:46 -!- acalycine has quit [Quit: bye] 05:38:50 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:45:16 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 05:46:36 -!- Textmode has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:49:21 -!- genericpseudonym has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:51:23 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:53:22 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:54:58 -!- freechips has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:55:39 -!- gK-1wm-su has quit [Excess Flood] 05:56:14 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:56:16 ok i'm all out of achievement ideas, suggestions welcome 05:59:55 abandon 2 gods in the same game 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:02:33 heh 06:03:09 abandon and rejoin ru after making champion 06:03:31 everyone's favorite stupid challenge 06:03:51 There should be a god you can only worship after you've pissed off at least five others 06:04:01 lol 06:04:01 these achievements will only exist for one day, they should be early game! 06:04:18 it doesn't take *that* long to make champion of ru 06:04:38 heh 06:04:38 i was doing a robin that was doing that stupid ru challenge 06:04:43 -!- yesno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:04:51 i think we got up to champion 3 times by the time we hit vaults 06:04:59 and subsequently got super murdered 06:05:08 because we had sacrificed like 18 things 06:05:30 !kw gfspeed 06:05:30 Keyword: gfspeed => name=gammafunk char=deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mffi|mfgl|mfbe|mibe|migl|musu|miwr|trck|vsie|vsfi !gfslow 06:05:44 !lg gammafunk su s=crace 06:05:44 1591 games for gammafunk (su): 1136x High Elf, 322x Deep Elf, 117x Mummy, 11x Octopode, 2x Vine Stalker, Human, Vampire, Felid 06:05:50 !lg gammafunk su s=crace month 06:05:51 No games for gammafunk (su month). 06:05:56 !lg gammafunk su 06:05:57 1591. gammafunk the Summoner (L10 DESu of Sif Muna), slain by a spectral alligator (called from beyond by a ghost crab) on Swamp:2 on 2016-12-27 19:32:18, with 4816 points after 5621 turns and 0:51:51. 06:06:08 don't dream it's over gammafunk 06:08:58 -!- agaric has quit [Quit: bye] 06:14:08 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:15:04 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:16:42 Achievement: Streaker … 06:16:42 Stairdance a bat 06:23:12 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:25:05 -!- Fixer has joined ##crawl-dev 06:25:35 -!- Ystah has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:29:05 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:31:52 -!- rumflump has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:35:11 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 06:36:02 !messages 06:36:03 No messages for TZer0. 06:36:36 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 06:36:51 -!- chris1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:37:48 Is it intended that the dragon scales inventory line is "H - +6 dragon scales (worn)" rather than "H - +6 dragon scales (worn) {rF+ rC+ rPois}"? 06:38:35 I also suggest to add an empty line between the inventory and floor interaction lists. 06:40:22 -!- dpeg has quit [Client Quit] 06:40:46 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 06:42:36 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:44:39 -!- hittemvvvmobile has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:51:05 -!- chris___1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01:22 New branch created: pull/487 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/487 07:01:22 03Floodkiller02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/487 * 0.20-a0-831-g9c347d6: Add Cyno species. 10(8 weeks ago, 22 files, 216+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c347d6d982c 07:04:48 -!- genericpseudonym has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:06:16 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 07:09:06 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 07:09:20 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:10:08 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:14:12 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:15:14 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:22:03 -!- FIQ has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 07:22:03 is the Obsidian Axe supposed to mesmerise the character towards caged monsters? (I just had that with an eye of draining behind iron grates in a ziggurat) 07:24:34 <|amethyst> hm, player::possible_beholder uses see_cell_no_trans but maybe that should be something based on LOS_SOLID_SEE instead 07:24:49 <|amethyst> to prevent mesmerising through grates, statues, etc 07:25:03 -!- FIQ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:25:16 -!- Chronozari has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:35:33 |amethyst: should I file a bug report? 07:38:50 <|amethyst> dpeg: I think so, yes 07:40:14 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 07:42:42 |amethyst, do you think that dragon scales showing as "+6 dragon scales (worn)" in inventory iS a bug (i.e. without the "rF+ rC+ rPois" other ego items have)? 07:44:59 <|amethyst> other ego items don't have that 07:45:02 <|amethyst> only artefacts 07:45:25 so I guess there was a change at some point 07:45:54 <|amethyst> I could see adding it, but that would mean {...} on lots of items 07:45:54 I think it's a little less clear now: in my opinion, gloves of strength etc. should have the inscription. But it's not a bug, I see! 07:48:19 <|amethyst> for all but a few egos that increase the length without adding information though 07:48:31 <|amethyst> +1 dagger of electrocution {elec} 07:48:47 <|amethyst> scarf of cold resistance {rC+} 07:49:12 <|amethyst> but it would be nice for consistency, at least with a (possibly default) option 07:49:36 |amethyst: for the numerical ones, the current situation makes it a little harder to add up :) 07:49:39 it's no big deal 07:49:46 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:51:31 -!- chris___1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:54:28 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:42 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:01:24 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:03:03 the obsidian axe seems to prevent me from closing doors 08:03:33 can somone have a look at cbro? 08:04:23 figured it ou 08:04:24 t 08:05:07 -!- sour has quit [Client Quit] 08:06:43 was it preventing you from closing doors dpeg? 08:06:54 it was two doors ..++.. but only looked like one :) 08:07:01 ahh 08:07:11 advil: welcome, by the way!! 08:07:21 thanks dpeg! 08:12:02 I rarely play fighters, but this BaFi with the obsidian axe was a lot of fun. I see where the people are coming from who say that high AC is overpowered... it's true. 08:17:16 I'm not sure I've ever actually used the obsidian axe 08:17:46 maybe in a sprint 08:28:09 advil: I'm sure proper play says to not use it 08:31:22 no doubt :) 08:33:15 but it's good that mesmerise gets tested 08:36:06 the item itself is pretty tactical, too: only one monster mesmerises you, and you can deal with it 08:39:57 man, watching wjc tvs is kind of dizzying 08:43:53 tvs? 08:45:20 game recording format 08:45:32 not a comment on wjc :-) 08:47:58 hehe it's ok, I was just curious 08:49:54 stuff like: 08:49:56 !lg jjjjhere cbro gh -tv:channel=debug: 5. jjjjhere, XL16 GhMo, T:22984 requested for debug: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 08:52:55 !lg jjjjhere cbro gh -tv:channel=debug: 5. jjjjhere, XL16 GhMo, T:22984 cancel requested for debug: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 08:54:42 !lg jjjjhere cbro gh x=tiles 08:54:43 5. [tiles=true] jjjjhere the Brawler (L16 GhMo of Wu Jian), slain by norplu's ghost on Spider:2 on 2017-03-06 02:12:16, with 93017 points after 22984 turns and 1:10:26. 08:59:19 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:00:08 mesmerisation (Obsidian Axe) can trigger off caged monsters 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10962 by dpeg 09:00:08 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:13:43 -!- rumflump has joined ##crawl-dev 09:17:06 ??servitor[2 09:17:06 profane servitor[1/1]: A terrible angel, with both vampiric and draining attacks, and sometimes a demon whip. Resistant to holy attacks because of its blasphemous nature! Surrounded by an unholy umbra, which cancels out halos and causes accuracy penalties (but ***+ Yred and *+ Dith worshipers are immune) 09:17:16 ??servitor[3 09:17:16 servitor[3/3]: profane butler 09:17:18 ??servitor[4 09:17:18 spellforged servitor[4/4]: Don't get between a servitor and its iood targets, especially not if invisible (FIXME: does it matter?): !lg * killer=spellforged_servitor 5 -tv:<0.3 09:27:07 %git evasion 09:27:07 Could not find commit evasion (git returned 128) 09:27:15 %git :/evasion 09:27:15 07MarvinPA02 * 0.19-a0-1656-g621c356: Reduce Riposte chance to 1/3 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/621c3562fae8 09:27:23 %git :/evasion brand 09:27:23 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-68-g331f5bf: Don't break chaos and evasion brands in mapdefs on major tag bump. 10(3 years, 5 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/331f5bf6f43c 09:27:40 %git :/remove evasion 09:27:41 Could not find commit :/remove evasion (git returned 128) 09:28:51 oh woops just realized this isnt /msg sequall sorry for the spam :P 09:33:18 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:34:38 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 09:38:36 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 09:48:14 -!- meatpath has joined ##crawl-dev 09:48:58 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:50:23 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:02:18 !splatratio chequers 10:02:19 % of xl17 chars killed recentish: 44/59x chequers [74.58%] 10:02:28 and he said his win rate was going up 10:02:53 !splatratio johnstein 10:02:54 No games for johnstein (recentish !gfspeed xl>=17). 10:07:36 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:10:43 -!- freechips has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:11:40 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:16 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:15:24 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:04 -!- Nomi has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 10:19:08 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 10:20:32 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:21:34 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:26:12 -!- surr has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:29:11 -!- sour_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:29:47 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:30:52 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:09:20 -!- sanka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:09:49 the dogs are in trunk now? gotta win one of those, too 11:15:49 they aren't, Flood was just rebasing 11:16:50 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:20:14 -!- waat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:22:36 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:31:39 dpeg, I agree pretty much 99% with your SA post 11:32:01 Even in its current form whirlwind still creates decisions as to *where* to move to 11:33:37 I think whirlwind would feel much better if it had a small damage nerf and a corresponding increase in Slow application. Unsure how to address Wall Jump. In my recent WJC win I repeatedly used Wall Jump to scoot out of bad situations and create distance between pursuers. That felt fun! And I got into trouble a bunch doing that too, it was hardly foolproof. 11:34:14 I agree that making wall jump slower would lead to unpleasant double-move finishes on characters. I originally suggested making it 150% (or something) aut with corresponding damage increase but that was probably a bad suggestion 11:34:15 SteelNeuron, you here? 11:35:41 hm, maybe I didn't actually suggest that and SteelNeuron's suggestion just got into my head 11:35:44 either way 11:36:09 Just for a few minutes :) 11:36:48 re: extra time on wall jump, I don't think it would be that bad since it's relatively easy to convey in the powers description 11:36:54 "After jumping, you take some time to recover" 11:38:54 Brannock: hey, thanks :) 11:39:07 catching up on that tavern thread now 11:39:43 SteelNeuron: no, that's not the problem -- I am not speaking of a "spoiler" issue. Even if players is aware of it, it's damn hard to take it into tactical account. 11:40:36 interestingly, it does sort of average out with the fact that you can distract the monster you're hitting 11:40:50 i.e. you would give it more auts, but also a chance to not act at all, so higher variance 11:41:12 the only immediate bad thing I can see with that, is that it would again benefit high mitigation builds 11:41:36 yeah, I went from "this is challenging" to breezing through the game once I got heavy armor wearable 11:41:44 though that's probably more a problem with heavy armor itself than WJC 11:41:45 SteelNeuron: think of it like double-move kills from randomised energy, only self-afflicted through jumping. 11:41:54 Something like that 11:42:11 Brannock: yeah, I still think a conduct that specifically harms high AC/SH characters would be welcome 11:42:18 Brannock: yes, I agree heavy armour is too strong. Last time we tried to address, it got thoroughly overnerfed :) 11:42:23 It is a problem with AC to some extent 11:42:32 but it is very much a problem of how AC and the god interact too 11:42:33 Heavy armor needs only minor tweaks imo 11:42:51 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:53 but that's another topic 11:43:25 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:43:25 SteelNeuron, spitball idea for conduct: WJC applies a multiplier to encumbrance/shield penalty 11:43:46 martial arts needs free movement of the body, after all 11:44:28 That could do 11:44:32 there are two problems with it though 11:44:37 player communication, and 11:44:39 one is that it revolves around somewhat obscure mechanics 11:44:53 and it doesn't quite affect builds that have obtained high AC through other means than armour 11:45:02 which... may be fine? I'm not sure 11:45:21 Brannock: player communication is never a problem: we can explain/highlight any mechanic as we wish 11:45:26 a % drop to AC per piety pip in exchange for some slay is still the one I like the most, but I'm open there 11:45:46 I think that would achieve the opposite effect 11:45:57 you'd want as much AC as possible to still have AC left over after the reduction 11:46:11 -!- Adeon has quit [Quit: p] 11:46:20 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:24 that would be the case with a flat decrease right? 11:46:34 a percentage decrease would hit heavy armour users the most 11:46:58 8 AC is still bad, even if the drop from 10 AC to 8 AC is 'only' 2 AC, compared to 40 AC to 32 AC 11:47:05 hm 11:47:48 Anyway, think on it. I really doubt WJC is strong enough to require urgent nerfs 11:47:53 yeah 11:47:53 And we have a few more months to go until release 11:48:00 the whirlwind one is probably worth it 11:48:11 and I'd try the auts on wall jump but I can see that one being trickier 11:48:32 fwiw I, personally, put a *lot* of value on the Crawl community receiving the god super positively 11:48:52 and because of that I'm going to be cautious about supporting any significant changes to mechanics and abilities that make the god less fun/more complicated 11:49:16 yeah, that's understandable :) and I'm happy too that it seems to be generally well received 11:58:20 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:16 -!- glaas has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7] 12:08:46 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:09:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:21:31 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:11 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 12:23:52 -!- adelrune has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:24:44 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:25:39 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-830-g2c9a30d (34) 12:32:44 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:39 -!- yesno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:38:12 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 12:56:06 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:58 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:08:32 !tell alexjurkiewicz when you hover over a player's name on cpo, it says that player is undefined 13:08:33 rumflump: OK, I'll let alexjurkiewicz know. 13:10:35 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:25:50 -!- flow has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:27:49 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32:06 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:19 -!- thurin has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:45 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:38:07 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:36 -!- Doesnty has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:43:02 -!- Doesnty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:46:11 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:47:26 -!- bhaak has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 13:47:32 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:23 -!- bhaak has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:54:35 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:04 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:55:06 -!- koboldina has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:15 in trunk do you die if you land in lava? or just get drained heavily? 13:55:50 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:57:13 like water, i can't think of any way to fall in lava in trunk anymore 13:57:48 temporary flight and transformations both cause you to enter emergency-flight mode, which drains you heavily until you get to safe land or fly some other way 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:28 i thought there was still some edge case, because the actual functionality to kill you is still around 14:00:56 maybe not and that should be removed now though 14:03:23 i bet if you get petrified 14:04:54 no, even then it gets extended 14:05:35 code may have been left around in case someone did find an edge case, since crawlcode 14:05:49 petrifying never dropped the player into lava anyway 14:05:58 only monsters 14:06:09 maybe book of air needs a new low level "cloud" spell. as a portent of what players can expect from future air magic spells 14:07:20 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:08:46 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:12:35 ^status 14:12:36 49 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=91% (135GB) | RAM usage=36% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 14:12:35 up 3 days, 19:50, 4 users, load average: 1.40, 1.19, 1.01 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org 14:17:38 -!- hittemvvvmobile has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:22:54 -!- Perryman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:28:03 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 14:29:44 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 14:38:51 -!- thurin has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 14:40:57 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:41:50 !tell PleasingFungus You should check out pr 478. I think it's worth merging but they're your species! 14:41:51 Brannock: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 14:49:01 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:55:25 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:55:51 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:19 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:57:20 -!- thurin has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04:17 -!- thurin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:27:05 Ba could stand to recommend ranged weapon roles 15:27:50 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:32:02 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:37:45 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:43:24 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 15:45:29 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 15:57:51 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Quit: I quit] 16:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:18 oh holy shit 16:02:31 if an orc priest gets a name there's a 1/51 chance for it to be Judas 16:02:37 with a comment in the file 16:02:41 # Watch out! :p 16:02:50 * geekosaur is somehow not surprised 16:02:55 ?/FONDLE 16:02:56 Matching entries (1): singing_sword[2]: apparently there is a 0.000060672 chance of any one screaming sword scream being "LET'S FONDLE THE SPERM WHALES, FONDLE THEM!" 16:04:05 geekosaur: that's my line :) 16:07:27 -!- thurin has joined ##crawl-dev 16:09:06 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:12:00 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:55 ??teleportitis 16:12:55 teleportitis[1/1]: Mutation: "Space occasionally distorts in your vicinity." Occasionally attempts to teleport you to a random spot in a (15, 30, no limit) square radius. The teleport is cancelled if there are no monsters near the target spot. {ring of teleportation} has no range limit. 16:15:14 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:15:20 -!- thurin has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:15:58 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 16:16:42 -!- thurin has joined ##crawl-dev 16:26:14 -!- flow has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:34:51 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:35:54 -!- smiler has quit [*.net *.split] 16:38:26 I cannot find the range-limiting bit of teleportation 16:38:37 kilobyte's original commit had it in main.cc 16:38:55 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e3b47de840833e9178bfdfad20c598f632d78829 16:41:41 -!- smiler has quit [*.net *.split] 16:47:13 gammafunk: yeah, titles don't work for some reason 16:47:13 alexjurkiewicz: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:47:19 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48:02 !messages 16:48:03 (1/1) rumflump said (3h 39m 30s ago): when you hover over a player's name on cpo, it says that player is undefined 16:48:09 oh, ^ rumflump 16:48:43 righto 16:48:49 -!- mobydollar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:54:10 rumflump: that's not true anymore. now, mutation level affects how often you are teleported, not how far. one level of MUT_TELEPORT is equal to half a ring of *Tele 16:54:24 (feel free to fix learndb) 16:54:47 ahh, ok, thanks. I thought I was just bad at hunting down the function 16:55:27 !learn edit teleportitis s/spot in.*s\./spot. 16:55:27 teleportitis[1/1]: Mutation: "Space occasionally distorts in your vicinity." Occasionally attempts to teleport you to a random spot. The teleport is cancelled if there are no monsters near the target spot. {ring of teleportation} has no range limit. 16:55:43 !source player_teleport 16:55:44 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#L1004 16:56:04 you can search the whole codebase for MUT_TELEPORT, which is what i did; there's not a lot to read through 16:56:55 I was looking primarily at spl-teleport.cc, but also trying some searches. didn't think to look for the MUT_ part, thanks 16:57:41 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:28 -!- mong has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:01:36 -!- mroovka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:04:42 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:56 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:18:38 -!- smiler has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:19:59 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:21:43 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 17:30:03 -!- thurin has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:48:03 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:49:30 -!- Jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:52:28 -!- hittemvvvmobile has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:54:39 would it be weird and bad to make Ice Magic unusable for lorcs? as in the MPA style "this kind of mechanic is always wrong" bad 17:55:08 is there a reason other than flavor 17:55:45 it seems like it might save people from doing the wrong thing, because your heat aura already melts (hastens the expiration of) ozo armour and ice form 17:56:15 i mean, you could just ban those particular spells 17:56:16 also you get a spell anti-enhancer at high heat. currently. maybe those things should go, but they came with the package 17:56:21 dcss doesn't like things that exist purely for flavour, also the only skill restrictions currently are ones that make completely no sense 17:56:29 eg weapon skill on felid 17:56:31 anti-enhancer for ice magic, that is 17:56:48 would removing ice magic be significantly different from -3 skill + anti-enhancer 17:57:45 it would mostly just be a safety rail to protect people from what would seem to be a really bad way to play lorcs - people who aren't aware of the melting and antihancer 17:57:46 rumflump: should we take M&F away from merfolk, because it's silly to use anything but a polearm? 17:57:54 haha, point 17:58:16 also all spellcasting skills from trolls 17:58:38 <|amethyst> re purely for flavour, see the SInv discussion yesterday-ish 17:58:49 frankly the most interseting thing would be to give them a good ice apt 17:58:56 <|amethyst> that's pretty much all flavour (and matching monsters) 17:59:03 since that encourages you in a strange direction 17:59:21 ice is a kind of rock, after all 17:59:25 just like lava 17:59:27 it's a little different from spellcasting on trolls, because ice stuff is so penalized in ways beyond the apt, but it's still a good point 17:59:29 <|amethyst> water rock 17:59:56 maybe some of those penalties are unnecessary/redundant with the bad apt 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:09 <|amethyst> apparently "Wasserstein" is a German name 18:04:38 should I remove the melting checks, and/or the antihancer maybe? 18:05:33 <|amethyst> FR: YHfLaFS reforms LO to the point where we feel comfortable putting them back into trunk 18:06:42 don't get me hopes up :P 18:07:18 New branch created: pull/488 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/488 18:07:18 03Floodkiller02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/488 * 0.20-a0-831-g172d5f8: Clean up detect_items() 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/172d5f805ec8 18:07:20 Infestation turns bribed monsters hostile, gives no warning 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10963 by Lavandula 18:08:55 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:10:00 any feedback on achievements as an AFJ? 18:10:16 I think it's cute and would support it 18:10:20 how are they displayed? 18:10:49 force_more message 18:11:03 -!- thurin has joined ##crawl-dev 18:11:10 the colours are ugly, but I think the method is good 18:11:45 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:18 alexjurkiewicz: should print in rainbow colors 18:12:27 03Floodkiller02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/487 * 0.20-a0-832-g03f3b1a: Re-add missing end of file newline to enum.h 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/03f3b1aeb6f2 18:12:29 |amethyst: how could I check the size of the achievement map in a COMPILE_CHECK? 18:12:32 ./achievement-data.h:61:53: note: non-constexpr function 'size' cannot be used in a constant expression 18:14:01 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: with a std::map<> you can't really 18:14:26 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: you can with a FixedVector or array or such 18:14:37 too bad there's no frozenmap type 18:14:56 i guess another reason to convert to array 18:15:24 <|amethyst> we should really make a template class for array-based "maps" 18:15:38 <|amethyst> with a permutation array for the indices 18:15:56 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-830-g2c9a30d (34) 18:16:20 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:16:36 <|amethyst> !tell SteelNeuron TeshiAlair @tavern says "Wall jump is the single most fun thing to happen to crawl in at least 4 years." 18:16:36 |amethyst: OK, I'll let steelneuron know. 18:16:55 looking at 488, "you.mutation[MUT_JELLY_GROWTH]" stands out to me. I think this works fine, but I can't find any other instance of 'you.mutation[' in the codebase. 18:17:21 hm, really? 18:17:21 oh 18:17:22 oops 18:17:25 I forgot to clear a search filter 18:17:25 regex :) 18:17:45 I was searching in /des/ only last night and that was still there 18:17:49 okay 488's good to go then 18:18:17 03Floodkiller02 {Brannock} 07* 0.20-a0-831-gcd1f35f: Clean up detect_items() (#488) 10(10 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cd1f35f245e3 18:18:45 <|amethyst> I would use player_mutation_level(MUT_JELLY_GROWTH) 18:18:46 what is this "achievement" stuff, and what is an AFJ? 18:18:53 april fool's joke 18:18:59 <|amethyst> amalloy: AFJ = April Foo what alexjurkiewicz said 18:19:29 <|amethyst> Brannock: not that MUT_JELLY_GROWTH can be suppressed currently, but 18:19:39 |amethyst, should all the other instances of 'you.mutation[' be converted too? 173 matches 18:19:53 oh, you mean for suppression 18:19:55 I didn't consider that 18:19:56 <|amethyst> Brannock: some of those are assignments so shouldn't be 18:20:06 <|amethyst> Brannock: the ones in tags.cc also shouldn't be changed 18:20:10 yes 18:20:11 <|amethyst> Brannock: the others, maybe? 18:20:39 how worthwhile is that? like what's the effect? 18:21:17 <|amethyst> the difference is purely form-mutation suppression 18:21:43 <|amethyst> !source _mut_level 18:21:44 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player-stats.cc#L365 18:21:51 <|amethyst> !source mutation_activity_level 18:21:51 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mutation.cc#L259 18:22:24 <|amethyst> oh, and I guess some gods suppress mutations 18:22:35 <|amethyst> e.g. Dith and Ignite Blood 18:23:05 <|amethyst> and a special case for Demonic Guardian when you have MUT_NO_LOVE 18:24:41 I just found where I got my config.py, https://github.com/neilmoore/dgamelaunch-config/blob/szorg/config.py#L522 18:24:54 with the default time out 18:26:12 is this guide still good in general? https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:server:setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles 18:26:17 -!- duvessa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:26:21 I think it's the only one, anyway :p 18:26:22 <|amethyst> Dracunos: I think so 18:26:37 <|amethyst> Dracunos: if you find errors or other problems, feel free to edit 18:27:22 I approve of calling it AFJ. it's stealthy 18:27:22 which one is nielmore anyway 18:27:34 <|amethyst> Dracunos: ? 18:27:41 <|amethyst> Dracunos: that's me, if you spell it better 18:27:59 that Twelve person probably would believe the AFJ is for serious if we keep it hushy 18:28:10 ah cool 18:28:21 Twelwe*, and they already saw the discussion yesterday 18:29:31 <|amethyst> (seriously, I have found my name gets misspelled "Niel" far more often than "Neal". I blame "I before E except after C". 18:29:34 <|amethyst> ) 18:29:49 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:31:08 also niels bohr? 18:31:31 <|amethyst> goddamn Danes 18:34:28 where's the code that deals with storing actions that are shown down the bottom of morgues? 18:35:46 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:36:27 !source _sdump_action_counts 18:36:27 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/chardump.cc#L1197 18:36:49 deals with rendering, not storing 18:36:55 <|amethyst> _count_action 18:37:02 but it points to action_count 18:37:07 <|amethyst> err, count_action I guess 18:37:14 <|amethyst> and caction_compound 18:37:33 what's that cool syntax called where a line starts with an innocuous "if" but instead of being "if condition result; else return" it's got some cool multi-if, which uses "? condition 1 : result; condition 2 : result; etc" 18:37:45 I wanna read how it works 18:37:45 ternary 18:37:57 ah groovy, thanks 18:38:19 <|amethyst> return condition ? 1 : 2; http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/operator_other#Conditional_operator 18:39:14 !source player::kills 18:39:15 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.h#L240 18:39:28 good type name 18:39:54 killing spree! godlike! 18:40:21 <|amethyst> FR: "Killmaster" as a title 18:40:39 <|amethyst> "Why would I want to master a creek?" 18:40:41 "conqueror" is sort of lame anyway 18:41:54 !source maybe_melt_player_enchantments 18:41:54 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/ouch.cc#L78 18:42:34 <|amethyst> One of my fellow lecturers was telling students about how I don't have a cell phone 18:42:52 <|amethyst> One of the students apparently asked "What, does he write letters?" 18:43:16 alexjurkiewicz: it's often called "the ternary operator", but that's pretty silly because all that means is "an operator with three arguments", and ?: isn't really the only one in the universe. that's why |amethyst's answer of "conditional operator" is better 18:43:26 <|amethyst> "No, just overwrought commit messages." 18:44:01 <|amethyst> well, to be fair, ?: is the only one in the C and C++ universes :) 18:46:49 -!- mong has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:47:06 <|amethyst> !tell Cerpin You should have seen the curse that flew right by you 18:47:06 |amethyst: OK, I'll let cerpin know. 18:48:09 -!- frd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:51:16 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:53:27 what does demonic guardian do if you sac love? 18:53:34 not spawn at all, or still friendly? 18:54:03 <|amethyst> the Demonic Guardian mutation is suppresssed entirely if you have Sac Love 18:54:36 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:40 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:58:20 makes sense 18:58:28 i don't think i've ever used ru with a ds 18:58:42 i have not, apparently 18:59:11 if you switch to a god with summons are they just disabled too? 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:37 <|amethyst> with MUT_NO_LOVE you are prohibited from joining Beogh, Jiyva, Hepliaklqana, Fedhas, and Yredelemnul 19:01:01 <|amethyst> !source player_can_join_god 19:01:01 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc#L3019 19:01:23 <|amethyst> hm 19:01:39 <|amethyst> god_pitch does not have the full list, juse BJH 19:01:45 <|amethyst> s/juse/just 19:02:22 * geekosaur thinks hep shouldn't be in that list if it;s an animated memory. mut_no_love doesn't mean yourself... 19:02:39 (although, probably the implememtation makes that Hard) 19:02:45 lore over gameplay! 19:06:26 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:09:38 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-831-gcd1f35f (34) 19:10:02 eggs over easy! 19:10:30 <|amethyst> These Yolks Don't RUn 19:10:33 <|amethyst> s/RU/Ru/ 19:11:22 alex, re: uska-orcs, part of the problem with a new heat system, is I still don't understand the old heat system... 19:11:36 the tension is pretty easy to get a feel for after a fer games 19:11:42 but the math is floats. and sqrt!! 19:11:47 why sqrt 19:12:05 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:12:25 |amethyst: I want to store a few different types of achievements. Normal achievements just have a prop name which gets set to True, but sequential achievements need soemthing to happen x times over a number of turns (and the counter might be reset). These need different sorts of data stored in the achievement_data struct. How can I put variable data in there? 19:12:26 <|amethyst> It sqrts the lava or else it gets the hose again 19:12:50 |amethyst: eg, sequential achievements need to know the number of times the action should occur to unlock the achievement 19:12:58 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: hm.. if those are the only two you need, I might just make the member an int, and treat non-zero as true when relevant 19:13:08 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:13:28 I guess you could just make the desired count 1 for all single-action achievement 19:14:28 03|amethyst02 07* 0.20-a0-832-g0f01416: Add qw persist file to .gitignore. 10(24 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0f01416bd5ef 19:14:28 03|amethyst02 07* 0.20-a0-833-gc632bec: Give better message when trying to worship Fedhas/Yred while loveless. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 17+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c632bec5d8a8 19:15:25 <|amethyst> (preemptive bug report: Beogh "does not accept worship from the loveless" even if you are a loveless human) 19:15:43 <|amethyst> (that was already the case before that commit) 19:16:50 <|amethyst> (the commit adds loveless Gargoyles trying to worship Yred, and loveless undead trying to worship Fedhas, as additional cases with bad messaging) 19:17:14 so beogh cares more about love than species is what you're saying? 19:17:51 <|amethyst> ♫ All you need is blood ♫ 19:17:59 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:18:11 he just *happens* to care a crap ton about both, so there's no way to get in on a technicality 19:19:07 -!- meatpath has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:20 imo beogh is a she 19:22:25