00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:21 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-513-g02c11fc (34) 00:00:46 Should I submit a patch/PR for that? 00:02:11 Stable (0.19) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19.3-0-g738ab35 00:06:59 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:12:05 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:17:11 -!- frd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:26:35 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:53 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:37:28 Lasty: can you give me a quote Usk would say about 'dancing through memories'? 00:37:34 for the bugfix release post 00:38:18 I guess I'll just go with "Uskayaw says: Don't stop dancing through memory..." 00:38:40 kind of a weird computer science vibe there 00:38:43 <|amethyst> "Some dance to remember, some dance to forget>" 00:38:48 <|amethyst> s/>/./ 00:39:09 <|amethyst> -Eagles, "Hotel California". 1977. 00:39:24 <|amethyst> err, 1976 (1977 was the single) 00:39:52 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:40:44 nice 00:42:57 that's a pretty great quote for that release 00:43:01 shame we didn't include it somewhere 00:43:14 well, I'm including it here, at least 00:44:20 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:44:24 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/0-19-3-bugfix-release 00:44:33 will update when we get the OS X builds 00:45:10 also added a link to the trunk builds page 00:45:25 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:53:23 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:03:51 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:09:56 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19.3-0-g738ab35 (34) 01:10:40 is there a public repository of saves somewhere for testing purposes? 01:11:04 fiddling with a change that breaks requires handling on load and want to make sure i get things right 01:11:24 er, breaks saves, requiring handling on load 01:15:20 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:19:10 no such repository I'm aware of, no 01:19:30 most of the time people create a save in the previous version and try to load it 01:19:39 and the changed version, that is 01:19:59 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-513-g02c11fc (34) 01:20:28 alright, thanks 01:21:16 (i didn't think when i set out to give joseph a hat that i'd need to touch saves but i do) 01:22:42 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 01:25:25 (technically i don't *need* to but it's the less hacky solution) 01:26:41 hrm, I'm not sure why joseph having a hat would involve save compat 01:27:07 because there's no hat slot 01:27:16 the monsters that have hats cheat 01:27:22 gastronok wears his hat as body armor 01:27:27 and robin wears her hat as a shield 01:27:51 i can't put it in the shield slot for joseph because quarterstaves are two-handed 01:28:10 i could repurpose the apparently unused alt-missile slot but instead i'm just giving them a bunch of slots so things can be where they belong 01:28:30 -!- Guest61955 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:28:53 i could also put it in joseph's misc. slot if i wanted him to just drop it but i'd like it to be visible when you examine him 01:30:07 also it simplifies the process of getting these items to actually do something; atm they don't actually work properly anyway 01:30:26 robin's helmet doesn't give her AC because the game doesn't expect the shield slot to give AC and thus doesn't check there 01:32:45 hrm, yeah it may be that just giving monsters a hat/helmet slot would be best 01:33:00 other devs might have more comments about the technical details there; I haven't looked at that code 01:42:50 -!- exant has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:43:16 -!- Beargit has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:48:47 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:49:36 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:52:31 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:54:35 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:57:05 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-513-g02c11fc 01:57:34 gastronok wears his hat as body armor 01:57:34 and robin wears her hat as a shield 01:57:46 remind me what the password is for @crawlcode 01:58:13 also nikola wears his gloves as a shield 01:58:22 well that makes sense 01:58:27 a shield is basically a really big and unwieldy glove 01:58:34 yeah, it's less funny 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02:47 -!- diazepan has quit [Quit: diazepan] 02:07:51 @??orb of fire 02:07:52 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 120-172 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 11silver | XP: 8544 | Sp: b.fire (3d40) [06!sil], fireball (3d43) [06!sil], malmutate [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: human. 02:09:06 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:35:01 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:40:56 -!- heyyy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:41:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:49:52 -!- aegolden has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:19 gammafunk: Mac builds of 0.19.3 are here 02:50:25 tiles: http://aaronegolden.com/Dungeon%20Crawl%20Stone%20Soup%20-%20Tiles%20.19.3.zip 02:50:39 great 02:50:40 console: http://aaronegolden.com/Dungeon%20Crawl%20Stone%20Soup%20-%20Console%200.19.3.zip 02:50:55 nice url encoding 02:51:01 lol 02:51:08 I assume you've tested these 02:51:16 just made sure they ran 02:51:20 gotcha 02:51:28 let me copy them now 02:51:40 on my machine 02:51:49 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:51:52 amalloy_: are you around? can you test those OS X binaries? 02:52:01 also applies to anyone else in channel on a mac 02:52:11 I'll get them on cdo right quick 02:52:31 I did pull in a master change to the Makefile, because the 0.19.3 tag didn’t include the recent stuff about building on later versions but targetting earlier versions of the OS. 02:52:49 ah, right 02:52:57 hrm, was that a commit that's in trunk? 02:53:03 if so, I probably missed it 02:53:09 I believe these will run as far back as 10.7, but I have no way to test that :( 02:53:29 yeah, I have no os x system at all 02:53:44 thanks a lot for making those 02:53:59 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:54:07 oh, 404 on get...oh right 02:54:08 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-513-g02c11fc 02:54:11 probably need to escape that 02:54:31 aegolden: http://aaronegolden.com/Dungeon%20Crawl%20Stone%20Soup%20-%20Tiles%20.19.3.zip gives me 404 02:54:38 oh 02:54:41 missing 0 maybe? 02:54:54 yes 02:54:58 got it 02:55:02 er, yes 02:55:09 I really should have named those better 02:55:26 the Makefile commit hash is aebe03603bdc0f21a5c9be7f111b3ec895b5fc45 02:55:35 %git aebe03603bdc0f21a5c9be7f111b3ec895b5fc45 02:55:35 07aegolden02 {PleasingFungus} * 0.20-a0-234-gaebe036: Change Mac OS X build arguments 10(9 weeks ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aebe03603bdc 02:55:39 ah, ok 02:55:50 yeah we missed that one 02:56:10 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:06:05 ok, download page updated 03:14:38 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 03:21:52 ??objstat 03:21:52 objstat[1/2]: Run with "crawl -objstat" in a build of crawl with EXTERNAL_FLAGS_L=-DDEBUG_STATISTICS in your make command (or full debug with "make debug") to generate item/monsters statistics. See crawl -help for the argument details. 03:21:52 ??objstat[2 03:21:52 objstat[2/2]: Spreadsheets for all releases: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8&usp=sharing ; See the README for details: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D5mFqVi8ghz_nzvVmDUc3unx8VanVBWfgvZ8xCHaiJo/edit?usp=sharing 03:22:54 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:24:00 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:24:40 Experimental (councilgod-PR) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-520-g72a7070 03:25:41 -!- Bammboo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:25:43 -!- Bammboobies is now known as Bammboo 03:26:36 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 03:30:29 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:21 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:33:29 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 03:34:29 -!- Blazinghbnd has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:39:44 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19.3-0-g738ab35 03:40:38 -!- matp has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:52:29 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 03:54:21 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:54:29 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-513-g02c11fc (34) 03:54:36 -!- chan20 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:55:17 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:23 !messages 03:55:24 No messages for SteelNeuron. 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:04:06 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:12:01 -!- dextur has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:12:10 hey SteelNeuron 04:12:26 is there going to be an experimental for archeologist? 04:12:29 or do you know? 04:13:25 ProzacElf: I asked johnstein about it! At the moment there are quite a few experimentals, and he'd have to work out first how he wants to handle them :) 04:13:42 I don't think Ac is ready yet for public consumption though, even as an experimental 04:13:52 heh 04:14:00 So I'll ask him again when a couple experimentals get taken down and I've had time to work on it a bit further 04:14:12 well, frogs should be coming down soon 04:14:27 i would think 04:14:32 since they're actually in trunk and all 04:14:33 (and so should be IJC at some point, hopefully for the right reasons!) 04:14:48 i haven't tried that one in a while 04:15:06 since the animated weapon version? 04:15:12 yeah 04:15:20 at least that long 04:15:47 It has changed a lot since then 04:15:48 -!- meff` has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:16:22 yeah, i'm just trying to work through some other things and didn't want to deal with a god that keeps changing =p- 04:16:39 but i did think it seemed cool if rough early 04:19:04 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:19:06 i suspect that archeologist is probably not going to make it to trunk, for various reasons 04:19:20 but we had several bad races that got a fair shot =p 04:24:33 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:29:17 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:54 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:57 -!- bannakaffalatta has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:33:29 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:33:53 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:34:03 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:38:52 ProzacElf: I don't really have an intention to push Ac as hard as IJC, honestly 04:39:12 It is just something I threw together for myself, but it turned out to be fun and wanted people to experience it 04:39:25 I'd still hear your view on those reasons though :) 04:47:28 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 04:50:23 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:52:44 oh, i just thought arch sounded fun 04:53:04 i'm sure you've been working harder on IJC 04:53:44 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 04:53:54 i just thought getting a janky manual and an unrand would be fun 04:57:36 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:59:05 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:59:50 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:06 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:06:18 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 05:12:35 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:13:48 -!- bgiannan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:14:11 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:14:42 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:25:02 If it is to have a semblance of a chance to end up in Trunk, I'll have to reduce the chance for an unrand start by a lot 05:25:08 probably less than 20% of the starts 05:26:12 other start ideas I'm shuffling is SK_ARMOUR -> a heavy armour piece and STR jewelry, or fire magic -> staff of fire + 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[turn=1] testcore the Shield-Bearer (L1 HOFi), got out of the dungeon alive on 2006-12-13 18:57:02, with 193 points after 1 turn and 0:00:04. 19:12:17 -!- Basil is now known as Guest64224 19:12:48 !kw t1boring boring turns<=1 19:12:48 Defined keyword: t1boring => boring turns<=1 19:12:55 !oneandwon . spen !t1boring 19:12:57 No chars won on first try for gammafunk 19:13:00 hrm 19:13:04 !lg . spen 1 19:13:05 1/4. gammafunk the Vexing (L1 SpEn), quit the game on D:1 (minmay_entry_shattered_statue) on 2013-11-30 04:13:52, with 0 points after 0 turns and 0:00:39. 19:13:13 !lg . spen 2 19:13:14 2/4. gammafunk the Ninja (L26 SpEn of Dithmenos), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2014-05-20 06:10:39, with 2081891 points after 83608 turns and 9:55:40. 19:13:48 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:43 -!- diazepan has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 19:18:35 I guess the learndb entry makes it sound like loops are intended 19:23:14 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:34:17 -!- Guest64224 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:34:54 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 19:39:26 -!- bgiannan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:41:25 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:44:14 -!- bgiannan1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:44:26 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:45:13 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:46:35 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:50:05 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:53:14 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:47 -!- Fixer has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:28 -!- Pleasingfungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:01:32 https://www.reddit.com/r/roguelikes/comments/5pg9rb/for_the_detractors_which_specific_patch_do_you/ 20:01:42 good complaints on things that have "made dcss worse" 20:02:04 "The poison flavor conduct for TSO" 20:02:14 "lava/deep water not auto killing" 20:02:21 need to phrase that so they end up fighting each other over which thing made it worst :p 20:02:48 (Sun Tzu on dev expectation management :p ) 20:03:30 "If you let me slow monsters, every monster in the game except 1 should be susceptible to it. If you let me confuse monsters, every monster in the game except 1 or 2 exceptions should be susceptible to it." 20:07:08 well, in any case I think the patch I uploaded here fixes the DEAD MONSTER with pain bond messages: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10472 20:08:00 basically any call to "hurt" or "inflict_damage" may lead to a monster that is not just <1hp, but MONS_NO_MONSTER 20:08:07 because of pain bond 20:10:44 tso's poison conduct was good flavor 20:10:51 it's just really pointless 20:11:17 brutal na^tso nerfs 20:11:22 !lg . urune=15 won 1 20:11:24 1/7. PleasingFungus the Naga Porcupine (L27 NaSk of The Shining One), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-01-12 23:50:20, with 11956794 points after 136555 turns and 15:52:49. 20:11:27 ^ clearly needed! 20:12:39 i actually had a hell effect cancellation over water recently 20:12:45 two turns after i quaffed flight 20:12:51 so i am glad drowning is gone 20:13:01 i didn't even know cancellation was a hell effect 20:13:16 i think it's actually purple draconian breath 20:13:20 probably 20:13:23 poster "internet kraken" is annoyed that we removed pizza before handling the important issues, like glow from hell effects 20:13:58 cancellation is a charms miscast 20:14:03 tier 3 20:14:10 it was in cocytus if that matters 20:14:41 removing pizza was an important issue 20:14:41 now if you'd just remove the rest of the food 20:14:54 should have asked to put all the other foods as toppings on pizza first 20:15:03 i'm kind of bitter that pizza got removed and not royal jellies 20:15:10 but it is a step in the right direction 20:15:30 when lasty's doom clock gets implemented, name it pizza clock and graphically represent it by slices and toppings 20:15:43 !!! 20:15:45 hell yeah 20:15:51 talk about flavour.... 20:15:57 uh oh, I'm at 2 slices of pepperoni and one of supreme, maybe I should dive this floor 20:16:10 you have 8 slices of hawaiian 20:16:13 you're in the deep end now...... 20:16:14 ^q 20:19:41 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:23:05 -!- epsilonhalbe has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:29:47 -!- Pleasingfungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:29:50 CanOfWorms: people love terrible things 20:30:24 there's a guy in that thread lamenting the loss of victory dancing 20:31:16 also i love the "THEY ONLY REMOVE THINGS NEVER ADD" rheotric 20:31:47 when 0.20 has more species, more monsters, more spells, and like twice as many gods as the ~golden days~ 20:34:29 the golden days of secret doors, 27 dungeon floors, alter self, summons not disappearing after killing the summoner.... 20:36:17 tbh for all of the shitposting I do crawl now is still a million times better than any other roguelike I could waste my time playing 20:36:47 -!- Pleasingfungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:36:55 and crawl 0.19 is approx a thousand times better than old crawl 20:38:40 hellmonk: but it doesn't have [incredibly dull and unimportant mechanic] which was THE ONLY THING I LIKED ABOUT CRAWL 20:39:06 the game was ruined for me specifically when you stopped being able to throw clubs 20:39:28 bring back the crystal spear unrand!!! 20:41:52 i think it's good to stay self-critical 20:42:04 to be able to review and evaluate what changes were good and what were bad 20:42:08 like shadow traps, which were good 20:42:18 and removing mass confusion in favor of alistair's, which was bad 20:45:05 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 20:52:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:53:29 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:43 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 21:07:21 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 21:07:52 Pleasingfungus: I thought both were bad 21:08:02 who can say 21:10:37 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:21:50 so, this is like the third time i've ran into a dithmenos statue not creating smoke, is it just random or did someone introduce a potential bug ? 21:22:01 what is a dithmenos statue. 21:22:09 oh 21:22:12 er, i mean altar 21:22:13 items store where they are, right 21:22:24 there's like 21:22:28 one dith altar that has smoke 21:22:33 a special vault 21:22:44 it's not an innate property of the god or w/e 21:22:50 oh, i like always see it then, this is a vault that doesn't have one, maybe i was just expecting it 21:23:00 well, he makes you pour out smoke too =p 21:23:21 imo this vault should at least have smoke :P 21:23:23 &watch droogie 21:23:25 http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-droogie 21:23:39 would help with LOS since it's so open 21:24:20 oh, i like that vault 21:24:27 i think it looks good without smoke. 21:24:28 it doesn't need smoke i think 21:24:39 ok fine :P 21:24:48 notice how from the altar, none of the white walls are visible 21:24:57 i'm biased since i ran into Borc and it would've helped me 21:25:01 blork 21:25:06 lol 21:25:29 oh, yea that is kinda cool 21:25:32 i didn't notice that 21:31:31 not like it matters: pizza removal is where I draw the line 21:31:36 I will never play crawl again 21:31:39 for the next five minutes 21:42:43 hellmonk: don't be made about my elite tavern-post-fu technique that artfully defeated your Beogh removal suggestion 21:43:36 I respectfully disagree wrt there being enough gameplay differences to justify having both yred and beogh 21:43:52 don't you see that thing that beogh tries to do 21:44:20 I mean that's the only really unique gameplay concept the god has (old yred kind of could do it with letting allies wear stuff though) 21:44:25 yeah but I don't think it succeeds nor do I think that it's a good thing to do in crawl 21:44:37 the arguments for it not being a thing in crawl are basically 21:44:44 the same arguments for just removing permanent allies period 21:44:56 which are valid, but that's not a step dcss is prepared to take imo 21:44:58 I think one permanent ally god is sufficient and yred does it in a much less annoying way (that's still pretty annoying!) 21:45:01 i like ontoclasm's old yred posse suggestion 21:45:06 -!- feksclaus has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7] 21:45:10 yeah, I referenced said posse suggestion 21:45:17 i think beogh's ally gifting mechanics are bad and should be reworked 21:45:33 move yred more into "work with the gifts you get; you're a death knight with some punchy actives and some undead friends" 21:45:33 since, once you're spoilered, they encourage really dumb gaming tricks 21:45:34 hellmonk: did you ever remove beogh in hellcrawl 21:45:48 I did as of yesterday, but it's not live yet 21:45:50 and move beogh more into "you make an orc attack squad" or w/e 21:45:52 nice 21:46:04 Build Your Own Orcs 21:46:17 yeah, starting with dehydrated orc powder 21:46:20 as good as the real thing. 21:46:44 :) 21:47:03 tbh you could probably make beogh work if you changed enough of the mechanics, but I don't see the point in doing so for a god you can't even take with 25/26 species 21:47:17 just to have "muh evil messiah" 21:47:17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ln0tWJ4L6s < this, except with orcs instead of dinosaurs 21:48:38 Pleasingfungus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWWXXgg8IrA 21:48:46 jesus. 21:49:21 imo a dinosaur god letting you manage dinosuars with this level of detail could work 21:49:27 I like the little bit of green play-doh at the start 21:49:30 reminds me of http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net/images/4/8/merle-the-moose-poop-pal-10-stuffed-plush-moose-unique-novelty-gag-gift-new-7695d5cabcd68b296c5b59dd63bd7ac9.jpg 21:49:34 oh, roctavian confirmed he no longer has time (at the present) to work on my Draconion tile, so if either CanOfWorms or ontoclasm wants to draw up a multicolored onion that I can add as a joke rare fruit tile for the few months before we officially remove food ... 21:49:40 which i got my dad for a gift many years ago 21:50:26 we have a novelty snack here in Wisconsin, chocolate droplets called cow pies 21:51:02 -!- Boatshow has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:52:04 Brannock: multocolored? 21:52:07 *multicolored? 21:52:17 is this a reference to something? 21:52:19 one different draconian color per layer 21:52:24 huh 21:52:27 no it's just an incredibly dumb pun I thought was funny 21:52:39 i don't even remember what the drac colours are these days 21:52:39 ??draconian 21:52:39 draconian[1/4]: As a player draconian, you are given a random colour you didn't want upon reaching level 7, usually granting a breath attack and a resistance, and changing your aptitudes. See "?? draconian" for details -- red, white, green, yellow, grey, black, purple, mottled, pale. Enemy draconians are bad news and found mostly in Zot. 21:52:39 after seeing a bug report that misspelled draconian as draconion 21:52:43 ahhh 21:53:53 -!- feksclaus has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7] 21:53:55 !learn edit draconian s/ mottled,// 21:53:56 Use: !learn edit draconian[NUM] s/// 21:54:01 !learn edit draconian[1 s/ mottled,// 21:54:01 draconian[1/4]: As a player draconian, you are given a random colour you didn't want upon reaching level 7, usually granting a breath attack and a resistance, and changing your aptitudes. See "?? draconian" for details -- red, white, green, yellow, grey, black, purple, pale. Enemy draconians are bad news and found mostly in Zot. 21:54:58 I should start making commits again for crawl. 21:55:04 I took a few weeks off to focus on other stuff 21:55:44 taking a few weeks off...!? 21:55:46 REMOVE 21:57:12 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:57:48 -!- circsquare has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:58 since you were gone we remove Depths and Zot, added crafting, and reworked Cheibrodos to be the god of hasting 22:02:05 *Cheibriados 22:02:23 gives you haste, lowers your stats 22:03:19 http://i.imgur.com/M3u3Y38.png 22:03:26 not sure this one quite worked out 22:03:52 it's a masterpiece 22:03:56 * geekosaur misread ...god of hashing 22:05:09 penance: your hashes collide more frequently 22:06:22 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:07:03 you work your way up from md4 to aes512, enemies get progressively less able to figure out what you will do. penance = they get all your keys and know everything you do (admittedly that overlaps Ash) 22:07:20 hashenzari 22:10:06 #define ITEM_IN_SHOP 32767 22:10:20 this is an important number i guess 22:13:06 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 22:17:00 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:18:47 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:21:07 !lairendkills lairtemple2 22:21:08 Lair End kills (lairtemple2): 40x cheibrodos_lair_end_hotspot (14.13%), 40x minmay_lair_end_frog_pond (14.13%), 32x evilmike_catoblepas_cave (11.31%), 31x gammafunk_lair_ancient_temple (10.95%), 25x wormcave (8.83%), 23x hangedman_lair_tendril_chambers (8.13%), 20x evil_forest (7.07%), 17x grunt_lair_end_beastmaster (6.01%), 15x guppyfry_lair_end_dragon (5.30%), 15x hangedman_lair_in_review (5.30%... 22:21:21 -!- ArentBrandon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:28:09 !abyssendkills 22:28:12 !cmd !abyssendkills 22:28:12 No command !abyssendkills 22:28:44 !cmd !lairendkills 22:28:44 Command: !lairendkills => !lg * title:"Lair End kills ($*)" $* lair-end s=kmap% 22:29:01 !cmd !abyssendkills !lg ${1:-.} abyss kmap~~abyss_rune $* s=kmap% title:"Abyss rune vault kills ($*)" 22:29:01 Defined command: !abyssendkills => !lg ${1:-.} abyss kmap~~abyss_rune $* s=kmap% title:"Abyss rune vault kills ($*)" 22:29:06 er 22:29:12 !cmd -rm 22:29:13 !cmd: Define custom command: `!cmd ` to define, `!cmd -rm ` to delete, `!cmd ` to query, `!cmd -ls` to list. 22:29:19 !cmd -rm !abyssendkills 22:29:20 Deleted command: !abyssendkills => !lg ${1:-.} abyss kmap~~abyss_rune $* s=kmap% title:"Abyss rune vault kills ($*)" 22:29:54 !cmd !abyssrunevaultkills !lg ${1:-.} abyss kmap~~abyss_rune $* s=kmap% title:"Abyss rune vault kills ($*)" 22:29:55 Defined command: !abyssrunevaultkills => !lg ${1:-.} abyss kmap~~abyss_rune $* s=kmap% title:"Abyss rune vault kills ($*)" 22:30:00 !abyssrunevaultkills 22:30:01 No games for gammafunk (abyss kmap~~abyss_rune). 22:30:05 er 22:30:07 right 22:31:51 !cmd !abyssrunevaultkills !lg * abyss kmap~~abyss_rune $* s=kmap% title:"Abyss rune vault kills ($*)" 22:31:52 Redefined command: !abyssrunevaultkills => !lg * abyss kmap~~abyss_rune $* s=kmap% title:"Abyss rune vault kills ($*)" 22:31:55 !abyssrunevaultkills 22:31:56 Abyss rune vault kills (): 99x nicolae_abyss_rune_star_stuff (9.47%), 90x nicolae_abyss_rune_left_handed (8.61%), 72x grunt_abyss_rune_wretched_hive (6.89%), 70x grunt_abyss_rune_twisted_forest (6.70%), 61x evilmike_abyss_rune_tso_outpost (5.84%), 55x evilmike_abyss_rune_ettins (5.26%), 55x hangedman_abyss_rune_macabre_mess (5.26%), 48x grunt_abyss_rune_the_horror (4.59%), 38x nicolae_abyss_rune_c... 22:32:09 !abyssrunevaultkills recentish 22:32:10 Abyss rune vault kills (recentish): 85x nicolae_abyss_rune_star_stuff (11.60%), 80x nicolae_abyss_rune_left_handed (10.91%), 53x grunt_abyss_rune_wretched_hive (7.23%), 46x hangedman_abyss_rune_macabre_mess (6.28%), 44x evilmike_abyss_rune_tso_outpost (6.00%), 38x grunt_abyss_rune_forest_and_sorcery (5.18%), 34x grunt_abyss_rune_twisted_forest (4.64%), 28x evilmike_abyss_rune_elephants_shrine (3.8... 22:34:48 !seen nicolae- 22:34:48 I last saw nicolae- at Sat Jan 14 05:24:17 2017 UTC (1w 1d 22h 8m 59s ago) parting ##crawl-dev, saying 'chanpart'. 22:34:48 !tell nicolae- Congrats on your abyssal supremacy: !abyssrunevaultkills recentish 22:34:48 gammafunk: OK, I'll let nicolae- know. 22:34:48 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 22:35:07 -!- Rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:35:52 elephants shrine? i don't think i've seen that one 22:38:48 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:48:37 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:53:30 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:54:30 -!- tgcid has joined ##crawl-dev 22:55:06 -!- tgcid has quit [Client Quit] 22:55:35 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:58:17 wait, plans to remove food completely? 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:04:03 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:11:59 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 23:12:17 -!- advil has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:13:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:20:58 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:22:55 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:23:48 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:25:35 ProzacElf: it's probably the one with a bunch of dire elephants and a hellephant on a little lava island 23:25:53 which most people have seen before if they've gotten the abyssal rune a bunch 23:25:56 kind of an easy vault 23:26:10 that would make sense. i've just never run into it i guess 23:26:41 although i've been a lot less keen on getting that rune since telering stopped working in abyss 23:28:02 well people who go there usually have a bunch of extra teleport 23:28:09 I find you probably want like at least 5 23:28:46 -!- eb has quit [] 23:29:35 i'd probably say that's about the minimum. but the ring did make "spam teleport till you land in the vault" a viable strategy 23:29:43 not that i'm saying it wasn't a good idea to change that 23:30:12 yeah the ring made things so much cozier 23:31:34 hrm 23:32:31 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 23:36:18 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:36:32 heh....it hasn't happened to me in a long time, but is it still possible to get banished and land right next to the rune if you get sent to A:3 or deeper? 23:37:59 yeah I think so 23:38:17 also, a player (spectrina) reported to me that she hadn't seen a temple entrance vault in quite some games 23:38:30 was seeing just the bare temple entrance with no special vault 23:38:35 so I made 10 chars in trunk in wizmode 23:38:46 all 10 got the 'dummy' temple entrance vault 23:38:54 regardless of the level that temple generated on 23:39:01 so I think temple vault generation is broken 23:39:13 and elmdor also reports that he's only been getting such entrances 23:39:35 that is consistent with my recent experiences 23:39:59 -!- adelrune has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:48:51 hm 23:49:13 i haven't played that much recently but i've ust seen naked temple entrances the last few i can think of 23:49:18 also 23:49:59 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:50:21 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:51:14 yeah it's pretty clearly broken, I'll have to take a look when I can 23:51:14 if no one beats me to it 23:51:23 I think other branch entrances are placing fine 23:51:28 ok nikola/maurice/yiuf can wear cloaks in the body slot 23:51:40 but it looks like there is nothing stopping them from picking something else and putting it there 23:52:22 wait i can just look at the item during loading 23:52:24 recent lair entrances have ben placing normally as far as i've seen 23:52:26 to know if it should be switched or not 23:52:32 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:53:51 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:54:24 -!- acalycine has quit [Quit: bye] 23:58:07 -!- exant has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:58:19 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev