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In my Zin verses? 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Simple to express and would make things more interesting (plus stop the "corner-bend" jkjk tactic) 06:13:20 SteelNeuron: OK, I'll let amalloy know. 06:14:37 !tell amalloy In the powers window: "Moving to your previous position stops the whirlwind" and in the combat log "Your spin attack fumbles as you walk back!" 06:14:37 SteelNeuron: OK, I'll let amalloy know. 06:15:15 -!- EuphOria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:15:26 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:16:25 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:17:19 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 06:21:26 -!- Basil is now known as Guest80425 06:24:56 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 06:26:54 -!- bgiannan1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:29:07 -!- laj1 is now known as bel 06:29:45 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:36:11 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 06:36:24 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:39:45 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:48:04 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:48:31 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:49:00 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:53:10 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:53:54 -!- circsquare has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:56:22 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 06:56:38 -!- Fixer has joined ##crawl-dev 06:59:23 -!- matp has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04:07 -!- vible has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 07:04:27 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:07:45 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:08:21 -!- vible has joined ##crawl-dev 07:12:31 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:13:00 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:14:43 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 07:19:33 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:27:21 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:35:08 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 07:40:00 Ok, so now books are listed as a throwing option for Troglodites. Very nice! But what the hell: 07:40:48 When you try to toss it, you get --more--, and that's ok. But why on earth do you get --more-- each time you move cursor?! 07:49:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:53:16 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:55:03 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:58:59 -!- Guest80425 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:49 SteelNeuron: anything that introduces tracking over multiple turns is likely the wrong solution 08:01:13 MarvinPA_: Yeah, I've been playing a game after sending you that message and I went back on my idea tbh 08:01:42 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 08:01:45 MarvinPA_: I'm getting to the opinion that whether or not substituting tab for jkjk is boring is going to come down to preference, it's not a significant burden 08:02:16 Well, it's too keys instead of one and some positioning awareness, but I've heard some people saying they prefer that over tab for every fight. Again, probably need a better sample size :) 08:02:37 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 08:06:29 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:07:06 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:07:41 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:09:17 My apologizes for my recent rant on tossing books. 08:09:42 -!- Basil is now known as Guest5951 08:09:47 For some weird reason my rc file was the reason for that. 08:10:38 <|amethyst> Yermak: hm.. do you 08:10:40 <|amethyst> oh 08:10:53 <|amethyst> I was about to ask, do you have force_more on a book name 08:11:01 <|amethyst> still weird that it does it every cursor move 08:14:10 Now I seem to remember myself being lazy setting warning for some monster that tossed something. I used only "toss" for that. 08:14:42 <|amethyst> I guess because it redraws the prompt, but (a) that seems like it would be inefficient for ssh etc when the prompt isn't actually changing, (b) there's still no reason for redrawing a prompt to trigger force_more, except that it's probably easier to implement 08:14:49 <|amethyst> so I'd still file a bug 08:15:42 ok, I'll do 08:16:00 Stable (0.19) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19.1-28-ge1247f7 08:18:09 -!- bel has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:18:31 -!- bel has joined ##crawl-dev 08:19:11 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:19:28 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:41 <|amethyst> I found a C++ library (header-only) that we need to use in Crawl: http://www.eelis.net/C++/analogliterals.xhtml 08:21:53 <|amethyst> example use: 08:22:06 <|amethyst> unsigned int c = ( o-----o 08:22:06 <|amethyst> | ! 08:22:06 <|amethyst> ! ! 08:22:06 <|amethyst> ! ! 08:22:06 <|amethyst> o-----o ).area; 08:22:43 <|amethyst> magic_resistance += I---I; 08:23:32 <|amethyst> it also supports three-dimensional literals 08:23:32 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:26:00 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:59 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:36:26 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:38:57 New branch created: pull/432 (5 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/432 08:38:57 03Hong Won Gi02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/432 * 0.17-a0-2075-g590e234: Merge remote-tracking branch 'refs/remotes/crawl/master' 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/590e2347c2f9 08:38:57 03Hong Won Gi02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/432 * 0.17-a0-2076-gf9cf925: hard coded ability name string to define for translate. 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 1 file, 151+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f9cf925f9cfd 08:38:57 03sesangsokuro02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/432 * 0.19-a0-1173-g8fadb65: 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[Quit: Page closed] 11:38:46 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:41:24 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 11:46:14 6* piety is pretty much just reserved for final one-off gifts rather than normal abilities, also that is really a completely absurd piety cost 11:46:31 can take you down from 6* to 2* i think 11:56:04 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:59:23 oh, that Korean translation is nice 11:59:28 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:00:06 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:24 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:34 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:08:55 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:09:13 MarvinPA: it can only take you from 6* to 4* 12:09:22 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:09:23 except for randomization 12:09:28 I should've made it fixed now that I think of it 12:09:29 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:09:33 i mean yes, the randomisation is a big thing that exists 12:09:40 Hm 12:09:57 Is the 6* being reserved for capstones a hard rule? 12:10:28 it's not broken anywhere else, and i don't see anything that would make this a good exception really 12:10:46 there is a reasoning for that 12:10:47 There is some reasoning behind why I did this. Maybe we can work out a solution 12:10:58 Pleasingfungus: Sorry, go on :) 12:11:03 and the most expensive abilities elsewhere cost ~30 (for eg enter the abyss), more than doubling that is pretty silly 12:11:21 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19.1-28-ge1247f7 12:11:52 trying to remember the best phrasing. it's kind of fiddly to try to maintain 6* piety for abilities 12:12:21 But that's not an issue when this ability is already meant to knock you way under the level at which you can use it, right? 12:12:38 that's part of why I moved it to 6*, it's important that it immediately stops you from using it again 12:13:11 like, for a 5* ability, you know "I can do stuff and still have access to my 5*" if you have fullish (6*) piety. (you can rest, use other abilities, w/e.) it's only once you drop to 5* that you have to think, you know, you may or may not have access to your 5* ability on any given turn, since you may be about to dip to 4*. 12:13:17 with 6*, you're always in that uncertain state 12:13:23 6* abilities 12:13:29 i think there's a better way to phrase that, probably 12:13:31 i don't think the design of lasting for thousands of turns and costing up to 90 piety is a good one 12:14:17 MarvinPA: Getting to 90 is my mistake, I meant to make it fixed, but let me try and justify why the big cost: 12:14:49 If I were to balance by reducing duration instead, the player wouldn't be as pressed to keep fighting. If you take it to the exterme, the length of a combat buff, all incentive to push you into bad situations is gone 12:15:02 making it just be a normal (but expensive-ish) 5* ability that lasts a good duration so maybe you can get a couple of fights in seems much better 12:16:08 at the huge duration end, you start penalising things like autoexplore for being inefficient and wasting your (very expensive) time with it 12:17:33 well, there might be a sweetspot in between (and I've probably really overdone the cost) but I still think it's good that it knocks you out of the range where you can use it 12:17:36 also re: fixed piety specifically, abilities should probably use the standard randomisation unless there's an especially good reason not to 12:18:12 like very low-cost things (fixed at 1, instead of 1-2) or usk abilities or whatever 12:18:14 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 12:18:32 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:19:21 I think there is a huge difference in the skill concept if you're able to use it two times in a row, and if you aren't 12:19:42 Because if you are, you're more likely to cast it every time you get to 6* (and maybe a bit more) without regard for what you're losing 12:19:53 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:58 because if you're really in a pinch later, you can cast it again 12:20:27 By becoming unavailable for a relatively long while, the investment you've made is more obvious, and justifies the fact they're very good 12:21:05 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 12:21:11 And I can only do this properly if I start at 6*, otherwise I would have to make the cost even bigger if I wanted to make sure a 5* ability isn't usable two times in a row 12:22:17 this just doesn't seem like an especially worthwhile thing to aim for 12:22:32 having it at a "normal" high cost of 20-30 means for sure you can't just use it in every single challenging fight 12:23:43 hm 12:23:45 what about this 12:23:49 low cost, as you say 12:23:54 (lower, relatively) 12:24:10 -!- destroythecore has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:24:17 But the weapon has a 300 aut duration that refreshes every time you attack 12:24:26 so you don't so much lose it with time, but only if you stop fighting 12:24:33 potentially less time if that's too exploitable 12:25:02 would that be an interesting mechanic? Otherwise I can just tone down the cost and reduce the duration by a lot to balance things out 12:25:16 -!- EuphOria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:27:59 i'm not sure how you'd communicate it effectively 12:29:07 There is already a hiden duration for these, I can give it a duration flag, and a combat log message when it's running out "The XXX will ascend back to heaven if you don't attack soon!" 12:29:29 and i think you can still get a similar effect just with a good duration (long enough for a couple of fights, but maybe not if you rest a ton in between, as with current animate dead or whatever) 12:32:19 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32:31 alright, I'll do that 12:32:59 I mean, I already had a very short grace period to make sure the sword doesn't disappear right in the middle of a fight, but it lasts a few turns only 12:33:14 so it's not like you can chain, it's mostly there to prevent just going unarmed between strikes 12:33:28 right, that's probably something small enough that you don't need explicit messaging for it anyway 12:35:49 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-507-gc86f373 (34) 12:35:55 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-508-g29864a7: Remove a few spells from Xom's spell list 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/29864a74b073 12:38:58 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:40:13 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:41:08 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/430 * 0.20-a0-517-g54bc6f1: Tweak Heavenly Blade cost and reduce its duration 10(3 hours ago, 3 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/54bc6f14d546 12:42:01 -!- Alarkh has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:44:32 (it's an amend so it's back to 5*) 12:46:10 -!- Guest5951 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:48:30 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:39 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:56:06 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09:24 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-508-g29864a7 (34) 13:12:44 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:17:13 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/430 * 0.20-a0-518-ge713dbd: Heavenly Blades are equipped automatically if it's safe to do so 10(in the future, 1 file, 18+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e713dbd277b2 13:17:13 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/430 * 0.20-a0-519-g690fc93: Can't do martial attacks while confused 10(in the future, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/690fc93d3039 13:17:13 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/430 * 0.20-a0-520-g72a7070: Remove explosive damage from lunge. 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15:08:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:09:17 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:09:26 oh, I guess it doesn't report unless something broke 15:09:49 and it had already finished when I checked, I just misread the report 15:15:10 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:16 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:32:57 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37:51 %git 0.19.2 15:37:51 07gammafunk02 * 0.19.2: Update changelogs for the 0.19.2 bugfix release 10(16 hours ago, 2 files, 18+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e1247f7a4b3c 15:38:09 gonna email aegolden about os x builds 15:38:58 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 15:44:35 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:53:01 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:59:18 hi, can someone look at this innocent title screen crash bug with pretty simple solution (resize)? https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10909 16:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:57 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07:49 <|amethyst> if large textures are a problem, then I wonder why our tilesheets don't cause the same crash 16:08:19 <|amethyst> feat.png is 1024x512 at the moment, and main.png is even bigger (but not an exact multiple of 512x512) 16:08:45 <|amethyst> I also wonder whether making it 511x511 would work 16:09:03 <|amethyst> because that would be a simpler crop than 416x416 16:09:03 yeah 512x512 is large but hardly enormous, as textures go 16:10:02 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:10:09 btw, other guy reports problem with same image - instead of crash it gets corrupted 16:10:20 he also resized it to fix the problem 16:10:47 the reports I saw were specifically 512x512 16:10:56 beyond that you'd need someone who knows the radeon driver 16:11:04 (if any exist outside of AMD) 16:11:37 i'm curious, let me crop it to 511 :) and see what happens 16:11:57 it's not a matter of "too large" or w/e, just a division by zero when handed that exact size 16:12:42 <|amethyst> so we also have to make sure that our tilesheets never come out to 512x512 too I suppose 16:12:54 <|amethyst> I think we make them 1024 wide so that's not an issue I guess 16:12:59 it may well round up to a multiple of 8, suggest you try 503/504 (latter would round up to 512) and 513 (would round up to 520) 16:13:35 so is this bug really on our side of things? is it related to a driver bug? 16:13:40 apparently minecraft uses a lot of 512x512 sheets; most of the complaints were related to that 16:13:54 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it's a driver bug 16:13:54 gammafunk, it' a bug in the ATI/AMD Radeon driver 16:13:54 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:13:54 ah 16:14:01 so it's...not actually something we should fix? 16:14:05 <|amethyst> ? 16:14:10 well, it'd be good to work around it at least 16:14:19 well I guess I don't understand why we don't tell people to upgrade their driver 16:14:23 or does this update not exist 16:14:28 <|amethyst> because the latest drivers have the problem 16:14:35 since right now anyone using crawl offline tiles on win7/win8 will hit this (probably not win10 from what I saw) 16:14:36 <|amethyst> *downgrading* drivers apparently works 16:14:41 hrm 16:15:07 so i resized that all title images to 512px to see, crash 16:15:08 <|amethyst> and upgrading ATI drivers... 16:15:17 <|amethyst> err, AMD now 16:15:23 |amethyst: we should recommend linux to all affected users, right? 16:15:26 <|amethyst> but upgrading Radeon drivers is sometimes not possible anyway 16:15:29 yeah, but nobody will downgrade drivers 16:15:32 in their minds 16:15:33 "install debian stable, problem solved" 16:15:38 <|amethyst> because they drop support for older cards in newer drivers 16:15:40 i already use last legacy amd driver 16:15:57 <|amethyst> gammafunk: IMO that's a better fix for the "don't have regular Mac OS builds" problem 16:16:06 hah 16:16:18 |amethyst: well, we do have devs on OS X! 16:16:24 they just don't want to do builds... 16:16:36 I emailed aegolden, hopefully he will do it for us 16:17:05 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:17:06 I mean, if I stopped doing linux builds, I'm not sure anyone else would make the debs either, to be fair 16:17:53 for windows we could probably bug kin to set up a build of the windows zips+installer 16:18:03 since we already have windows trunk zips auto-building 16:18:14 it'd be just the installer (or we could just distribute zips) 16:18:49 *be just the installer for which we'd need more setup 16:18:52 so i cropped it to 511x511 - no crash 16:19:04 interesting 16:21:57 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:58 The build passed. (0.19.2 - e1247f7 #7607 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/194078819 16:21:58 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 16:22:00 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 16:22:50 -!- Basil is now known as Guest62397 16:24:13 huh 16:24:13 ok, so it does give notification 16:24:18 <|amethyst> gammafunk: hm, I should upgrade dobrazupa and set up the autobuilder 16:24:19 but way after it had completed the build? 16:24:31 |amethyst: oh, that would be lovely...do you mean for linux? 16:24:33 or windows? 16:24:39 (or both) 16:24:40 <|amethyst> gammafunk: Linux 16:24:48 i'm using latest amd legacy driver, I have nowhere to update to avoid this bug, and I don't want to downgrade either 16:24:49 sure, that'd be great 16:24:50 <|amethyst> I guess I could do Windows too, but CDO is already doing that 16:25:11 |amethyst: I don't know if any of what I do would be useful/relevant, but it's in docs/develop/release/debian.txt 16:25:19 gammafunk, looks like it completed some things but not others 16:25:30 ah 16:25:35 wonder why the long delay? 16:25:36 Elapsed time 43 min 10 sec / Total time 3 hrs 4 min 47 sec 16:25:43 geekosaur: I think 16:25:46 presumably travis is loaded today 16:25:57 I think that means real-tiem versus total compute time? 16:26:02 like they were running in parallel? 16:26:29 maybe not, but it seemed to indicate completion when I checked yesterday 16:26:51 <|amethyst> it built the branch twice 16:27:05 <|amethyst> once for the update to the branch https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/193953107 16:27:12 <|amethyst> and once for the tag https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/194078819 16:27:16 ahhh 16:27:22 hrm 16:27:28 I should have done [skip ci] ? 16:27:30 on the tag? 16:27:42 anyhow I never saw the notification on the first one 16:27:49 <|amethyst> don't know if that would have done anything 16:27:51 I think since there was a build break in trunk 16:27:59 it then printed the pass message? 16:28:13 if not, no idea why the first build didn't get a travis message (I couldn't see one, at least) 16:28:32 gammafunk: I can do an OSX build if you need 16:28:43 <|amethyst> gammafunk: on_success: change 16:29:02 |amethyst: sorry, what does that mean? 16:29:04 <|amethyst> gammafunk: you didn't get one for the first build because the previous build on that branch was successful too 16:29:22 Ghost tiles have blade hands (and other odd features) 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10912 by Midn8 16:29:27 <|amethyst> gammafunk: you got one for the tag because the tag had never been built before 16:29:29 droogie: thanks, I'll wait to hear from aegolden since he did our last build and has a good understanding of the platform quirks 16:29:39 I see 16:29:40 sounds good 16:29:46 so it's a byproduct of my not tagging it 16:29:49 -!- stibbi has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:29:56 but I didn't want to tag it in case there was a travis failure :/ 16:30:05 guess it's not a big deal; just need to watch the build result 16:30:27 <|amethyst> gammafunk: we could change the setting 16:30:58 <|amethyst> gammafunk: the line I quoted is in .travis.yml (twice, once for IRC and once for email) 16:31:08 <|amethyst> could change 'change' to 'always' 16:31:14 You guys should probably just setup an ESXi box somewhere running all the build environments you need then just drop on share and have it all automated :P 16:31:29 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 16:31:29 er 16:31:33 well, they also wanted signing 16:31:38 <|amethyst> droogie: and whose dev key would we put on it? 16:31:43 I used to handle that but Apple screwed up my certs 16:32:00 we also don't own an ESXi box 16:32:14 'we' own the servers that are available, each admin runs their own thing 16:32:19 I don't own any server, for instance 16:32:23 <|amethyst> it would have to be Apple hardware anyway 16:32:32 <|amethyst> unless they changed that license clause 16:32:49 however if |amethyst can set up deb builds, then we could move towards my not having to make any build 16:32:57 if we can get the windows builds set up for stable on cdo 16:33:11 right now I just start up an aws compute instance 16:33:17 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I don't think it's something I can get time for anytime soon, but 16:33:36 droogie: or proxmox? 16:33:51 it is opensource one 16:34:34 |amethyst: yeah, if you ever do have time to set that up, I'm sure you'd do a better job making those debs (and automating it) than I have 16:35:01 <|amethyst> dist-upgrade needs to happen first, you want to do that? 16:35:07 <|amethyst> I can give your account sudo to root :) 16:35:16 heh, you want me to dist-upgrade 16:35:32 <|amethyst> I want someone who's not me to do it 16:35:36 <|amethyst> :P 16:35:43 no, I got you 16:35:46 Yea, anything really, just meant an automated cluster of various environments. I know people have gotten OSX working on ESXi but if it's an issue could always just have a mac mini plugged in too... I've just had a habit of storing so many VM's nowadays once I finally get shit working... so many different embedded devices want different toolsets with different drivers, ftdi, etc, etc... annoying 16:36:30 |amethyst: I will ping you about that later when I think I have time to try it 16:36:47 I'm sure it's not too bad, I have done dist-upgrade on an aws instance 16:36:52 <|amethyst> gammafunk: sure, I'll go ahead and add you to the sudo group 16:36:53 Well anyways, I do have a mac mini sitting here doing nothing but newsgroups, so if you need a build env in the future I can give you a shell on it gamma or I can attempt to automate it and can use that. Hopefully that other guy can just knock them out though, because I'm lazy :P 16:37:16 those default to ubuntu 14.04, and I dist-upgraded to 16.04 I think it was 16:37:43 droogie: yeah, I think aegolden will be able to help us out, but we'll keep that offer in mind, thanks 16:37:47 <|amethyst> gammafunk: this is really old debian, to be dist-upgraded to not quite so old debian 16:37:57 what version? 16:38:22 debian 6 I'm going to guess 16:38:42 I could just check myself, since I already have access 16:38:58 <|amethyst> oh, it's not as old as I remembered, apparently I upgraded at one point 16:39:03 <|amethyst> it's wheezy 16:39:41 I wouldn't do that unless you have a lot of time to burn, because I'll be amazed if I don't see "fuck, all of these packages, libraries, links, etc are broken" 16:39:56 you wouldn't do a dist-upgrade? 16:40:04 I don't think that's correct, droogie 16:40:18 dist-upgrade is a tool that's meant to help you upgrade the OS version 16:40:20 I wouldn't do it at 4pm on a Friday if I wanted to go home on time is what I'm saying 16:40:30 right, well no one was proposing that :P 16:41:00 <|amethyst> droogie: that's why I wanted someone else to do it :) 16:41:04 hehe 16:41:26 I'm not going to be doing it at 10pm, two ours before our midnight release, don't worry 16:41:30 *hours 16:42:02 there's a release happening tonight? new god finally? :D 16:42:16 <|amethyst> droogie: no, point release for the last version 16:42:30 ah ok 16:42:31 we're already mostly tin cans with strings for much of our infrastructure, dist-upgrade is the least of our worries in the end 16:42:42 -!- adelrune has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:43:31 <|amethyst> Fixer: so you said cropping to 511x511 fixed the crash for you? 16:43:38 yes 16:44:23 <|amethyst> hm, trying to decide whether to crop the top or the bottom 16:44:50 <|amethyst> the top because it's black, but I don't know whether I should reposition the logo 16:44:52 i made it 511x511 16:45:01 !commitby |amethyst Radically rework crawl's 2-D graphics subsystem (resize an image to 512x512, Fixer) 16:45:02 03|amethyst ⛐ 0.20-a0-2023-g9f1f6f1: Radically rework crawl's 2-D graphics subsystem (resize an image to 512x512, Fixer) 10(in the future, 38 files, 546+ 836-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f1f6f1 16:45:08 er 511x511 16:45:19 <|amethyst> right, but to do that you can take the row off either the top or bottom, and either the left or right 16:46:07 -!- EuphOria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:47:10 -!- Dark-Jedi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:49:12 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:50:47 will try 512x511 16:51:10 <|amethyst> Fixer: don't worry about it, I got it to 511x511 16:51:27 <|amethyst> chopped off the top row and the rightmost column, and shifted the logo down by one pixel 16:51:42 just checked, with 512x511 - no crasj 16:53:13 credit: (gimp, Fixer) 16:55:11 with this change you can probably close two tickets in one go 16:55:18 <|amethyst> Fixer: well 16:55:31 <|amethyst> Fixer: I'd like to hear from someone who had that problem whether it's fixed 16:55:51 <|amethyst> probably it's the same underlying cause, but I'd rather not assume that 16:55:56 this one https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10290 ? 16:55:58 <|amethyst> yeah 16:56:27 |amethyst: probably something similar, he resized it to 416px to fix the problem 16:56:52 <|amethyst> yeah, but maybe 511x511 doesn't work for that one and it needs to be 504x504 or something 16:57:23 -!- meff` has joined ##crawl-dev 16:57:51 03|amethyst02 07* 0.20-a0-509-ga2a529b: Work around an AMD driver crash on the title screen (Fixer, #10909) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a2a529b6adb8 16:58:13 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:44 <|amethyst> gammafunk: of course we need an 0.19.3 now :) (not really) 17:01:31 well, no builds have been made yet... 17:01:41 all I'd have to do is tag again (and notify aegolden) 17:01:46 is this a pretty common crash? 17:01:47 <|amethyst> 0.19.2.1 17:02:02 I assume it make the game unplayable 17:02:13 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it only happens when it picks that specific splash screen 17:02:26 yeah, that's not quite as bad, but still pretty bad 17:02:38 |amethyst: well, makes no difference to me since I've not spent time doing builds yet 17:02:55 checked that image, no crash, everything is good, thanks for your help! 17:02:58 <|amethyst> I guess there's no reason not to cherry-pick and retag then 17:03:09 |amethyst: would we do 0.19.2.1 ? 17:03:14 I don't know if that causes problems 17:03:26 <|amethyst> does it cause problems to force push the 0.19.2 tag? 17:03:34 hrm, I suppose not 17:03:57 well, I dunno about rebuilds on servers; those wouldn't use a tag though 17:04:02 they'd just care about the branch 17:04:05 <|amethyst> yeah 17:04:27 so I should cherry pick, push, tag, and force push tag? 17:04:49 s/tag,/retag,/ 17:04:52 -!- Jarlyk2 has quit [Client Quit] 17:05:26 I'm sure git experts would tell us this is a mistake 17:05:49 then they'd demand we buy their latest git book... 17:05:58 <|amethyst> hm 17:06:22 -!- darkschneider has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:07:02 <|amethyst> hm 17:07:18 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:07:33 as long as nobody has/is using the tag yet you can force push 17:07:46 the only problem is if someone has based local history on the existing tag 17:08:04 which for a release tag seems unlikely 17:08:16 <|amethyst> chei and travis were my concern 17:08:52 travis likely does not keep state so it'd only be a problem if it were currently doing builds on the tag 17:09:00 chei, you'd know better than I would :) 17:09:20 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-509-ga2a529b (34) 17:10:46 <|amethyst> %git stone_soup-0.19 17:10:46 07gammafunk02 * 0.19.2: Update changelogs for the 0.19.2 bugfix release 10(17 hours ago, 2 files, 18+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e1247f7a4b3c 17:11:34 -!- my has quit [Client Quit] 17:11:51 !messages 17:11:51 No messages for minmay. 17:12:15 <|amethyst> maybe calling it 0.19.3 would be simpler 17:13:32 I assume there are no other cherry picks we'd want 17:13:40 -!- fiyawerx has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:13:47 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^ 17:13:47 07MarvinPA02 * 0.20-a0-508-g29864a7: Remove a few spells from Xom's spell list 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/29864a74b073 17:13:48 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^^ 17:13:48 07MarvinPA02 * 0.20-a0-507-gc86f373: Mark Demonic Guardian as suppressed with sacrifice love 10(23 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c86f3732f80f 17:13:50 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^^^ 17:13:50 07MarvinPA02 * 0.20-a0-506-g3b0b867: Adjust pricing for some armour and jewellery unrands 10(23 hours ago, 2 files, 19+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3b0b8675feb7 17:14:55 <|amethyst> the DG and shop price things *could* go in, but I don't think it's that important 17:15:04 -!- snux has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:15:06 hey, you probably know... BUT, when I click with mouse on tutorial screen when I have some save game - it will continue that savegame, but not a tutorial 17:15:25 <|amethyst> and increasing prices in a point release might be a dick move anyway 17:15:35 Fixer, check your username 17:15:42 it is present 17:15:48 if it's the same name as the saved game, that game gets resumed 17:15:53 <|amethyst> you have to change it yeah 17:16:00 ah, yes 17:16:03 you can have only one active game at a time under a given name 17:16:04 <|amethyst> because we put tutorial and regular games in the same directory 17:16:05 i hope it is intended and not a bug 17:16:07 <|amethyst> why do we do that? 17:16:18 but it is kinda confusing 17:16:21 <|amethyst> geekosaur: but you can have sprint + regular at the same time 17:16:46 probably because tuutorial (and hints) are "normal game with some tweaks" instead of "different game" 17:16:52 say I started the game... and want to see a tutorial, but with mouse I can't start it, only via keyboard 17:17:35 Why not just use some predefined name for tutorial? 17:18:14 <|amethyst> because (a) that might be someone's real name (b) that would be a problem for servers 17:18:23 moving with keys in menu erases my name and allows to choose tutorial, moving and selecting with mouse has different behaviour 17:18:34 ok 17:18:58 it (mouse vs keyboard) just feels inconsistent in main menu 17:19:06 actually I wonder of this has something to do with servers/dgl 17:19:32 <|amethyst> geekosaur: servers have the same issue 17:19:36 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19:49 <|amethyst> geekosaur: if you start a tutorial game, save, and try to start a normal game, you're back in the tutorial 17:19:52 <|amethyst> and vice versa 17:20:12 yes, I was wondering if something about server management made that adviseable 17:20:25 <|amethyst> fixing that (putting tutorial saves in a subdirectory) would require some changes on the servers 17:20:34 or another mouse usability problem (is it?) - if you have item description with 2 pages - unable to exit it via mouse 17:20:42 seems like definitely a bug worth reporting either way 17:21:00 on mantis that is 17:21:10 <|amethyst> !bug 6996 17:21:10 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6996 17:21:15 aha 17:21:19 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:21:26 but you _can_ play it 17:21:30 just select with keyboard :) 17:21:45 sure, but "clicking on tutorial doesn't select tutorial" is definitely a bug 17:21:46 <|amethyst> Fixer: that bug was about the servers, where you can't change your name 17:21:52 ah 17:21:54 even if a workaround exists 17:21:56 <|amethyst> but the underlying cause is the same 17:22:47 <|amethyst> you might add a comment there if you have anything to add 17:23:03 https://i.imgur.com/QdR9B1J.png 17:23:09 do morgue_dir, save_dir, et al. work based on crawl_dir ? 17:23:44 <|amethyst> Fixer: right, you can have them with different names 17:23:56 03|amethyst02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19.2-1-g084e65f: Work around an AMD driver crash on the title screen (Fixer, #10909) 10(29 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/084e65fe0b3c 17:23:56 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19.3: Update changelogs for the 0.19.3 bugfix release 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 14+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/738ab35beb4f 17:23:58 <|amethyst> Fixer: otherwise, on the servers, if *anyone* were playing tutorial... 17:24:12 %git 0.19.3 17:24:12 07gammafunk02 * 0.19.3: Update changelogs for the 0.19.3 bugfix release 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 14+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/738ab35beb4f 17:24:19 added my note in that issue 17:24:28 oh I guess that always was shown in the second commit 17:24:45 this is the fastest release I've ever turned around! 17:24:50 putting that on my resume 17:26:38 do I need to report separate bug about mouse selecting of tutorial? 17:26:51 <|amethyst> Fixer: no 17:27:13 good news, I heard from aegolden that he can do the os x build (and I told him about 0.19.3) 17:27:16 <|amethyst> Fixer: it's not about mouse select vs keyboard select specifically, it's about whether the name is the same 17:27:26 <|amethyst> Fixer: when you use the keyboard, it resets the name 17:27:30 yes 17:28:06 <|amethyst> Fixer: that is deliberate, otherwise if you scrolled through some existing games then back up to (say) "Sprint", you'd always get the alphabetically first name 17:28:38 this is strange and confusing behaviour :) tbh 17:29:28 why not omit player name from that start up screen? you need to type name on new game start anyway, right? 17:29:48 <|amethyst> not if you entered it on the start up screen 17:29:56 <|amethyst> also, that's how you select an existing save 17:30:19 <|amethyst> err 17:30:27 <|amethyst> one of the ways, if you don't want to scroll through a big list 17:34:31 <|amethyst> I definitely would not mind that menu's behaviour being changed, but I don't know what the change should be 17:34:53 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:35:26 similar to keyboard? moving mouse - erases name %) 17:36:23 <|amethyst> actually, yeah, that sounds reasonable 17:36:26 <|amethyst> not erases, but 17:36:44 <|amethyst> hovering over a saved game should change the name at the top of the screen 17:37:15 it should also permit you to start a tutorial 17:37:20 or new game 17:37:43 <|amethyst> well 17:37:46 <|amethyst> you still need the keyboard 17:37:54 <|amethyst> since you have to enter the character's name at some point 17:38:01 yeah 17:38:34 at least not that confusing 17:38:52 i have no problems with keyboard at all but even I was confused 17:39:13 with that mouse behaviour 17:39:27 <|amethyst> hm 17:39:36 <|amethyst> What about the common case 17:39:38 you can't just start a new game with a mouse, you need to use keyboard on dungeon crawl button 17:39:46 <|amethyst> where I want to start a new game with the same name as my last character 17:39:57 <|amethyst> currently I can do that with just the mouse 17:40:05 <|amethyst> with your change, I would have to enter a name 17:40:20 <|amethyst> because hovering over "Dungeon Crawl" would erase the pre-filled name 17:40:27 yeah 17:40:55 <|amethyst> Fixer: maybe, hovering over a saved game should change the name at the "Enter your name:" prompt 17:41:27 <|amethyst> Fixer: and moving from a saved game to one of the game mode menus should erase the name 17:41:38 <|amethyst> hm 17:41:42 -!- exant has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:41:43 or add "use your last name" key in that last name screen 17:42:03 where it asks "what is your name today"? 17:42:12 -!- darkschneider has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:19 <|amethyst> but that's still an extra screen and an extra keypress 17:42:53 also 17:42:55 new bug 17:43:33 i'm in "what is your name today" screen, and I want to go back, so I go back with Escape (as noted) - game exits 17:43:51 it should go back to previous screen, not exit the game 17:44:53 <|amethyst> yeah 17:45:30 actually it is already reported 17:45:38 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7833 17:49:04 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:50:38 <|amethyst> oh wow 17:50:46 <|amethyst> restart_after_game doesn't actually work 17:50:56 <|amethyst> it explicitly calls end(0) 17:53:12 <|amethyst> should be game_ended() instead, which doesn't fix the bug but at least makes it not happen with restart_after_game 17:55:25 <|amethyst> oh, uh 17:55:53 <|amethyst> maybe we should rename the "end" function to something else 17:56:00 -!- meff` has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:56:27 <|amethyst> I mean, it takes an int so there isn't actually a conflict with std::end, but 17:57:16 -!- stibbi has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:57:41 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:58:45 <|amethyst> ah, and restart_after_game is on by default for tiles 17:58:57 <|amethyst> so this will fix the problem for tiles players, but not console 17:59:38 who runs cbro ? 17:59:48 <|amethyst> droogie: johnstein 17:59:51 thanks 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:01:38 and another suggestion: allow quicktravel with shift + numpads too 18:02:10 -!- epsilonhalbe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:02:11 it works with shift+arrow keys, but not shift + numkeys for quicker movement in tunnels etc 18:02:40 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:03:44 <|amethyst> it should work 18:03:57 <|amethyst> does toggling numlock change the behaviour? 18:04:17 <|amethyst> (on Linux tiles it works with either setting of numlock) 18:04:42 yes it does 18:04:53 but i'm lazy to do this each time:) 18:05:19 <|amethyst> you only have to do it once per boot :) 18:05:21 you need to toggle numlock to make it work 18:05:24 yes 18:05:30 i'm fine with this 18:05:33 <|amethyst> I mean, who uses numlock in other programs? :) 18:05:43 <|amethyst> s/numlock/the numpad/ 18:05:50 in office, regularely 18:05:57 spreadsheets 18:06:02 <|amethyst> I was being sarcastic :) 18:06:24 <|amethyst> I can't do much about that one, because I don't have a windows machine to build and test on 18:06:38 <|amethyst> (I have a Windows machine, but no dev environment) 18:06:41 at least we still have numpads and no hipsters put their hands on that yet 18:07:08 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:07:26 <|amethyst> on most laptop keyboards it's a pretty shitty fake numpad 18:07:55 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 18:08:28 <|amethyst> also, http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MLA22LL/A/magic-keyboard-us-english 18:08:32 <|amethyst> so the hipsters are working on it 18:09:14 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19.3-0-g738ab35 18:10:21 <|amethyst> At least that one still has Esc 18:10:27 * geekosaur grumpy he can't buy an external cursor keypad that isn't just an XT-style numeric keypad 18:12:28 <|amethyst> geekosaur: vikeys external keypad: http://www.storm-interface.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/k/1k041103.jpg 18:12:36 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:41 sorry for steering this into offtopic 18:14:03 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:33 -!- Hellen has quit [Client Quit] 18:15:37 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-509-ga2a529b (34) 18:16:25 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:18:00 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:19:46 ^status 18:19:46 42 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=83% (135GB) | RAM usage=36% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 18:19:46 up 29 days, 23:13, 6 users, load average: 0.70, 0.73, 0.81 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org 18:21:08 -!- stibbi has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:23:34 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:27:30 -!- Kenran has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:44 -!- eb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:27:58 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:29:18 <|amethyst> I think half our uses of our PRINTF macro are incorrect 18:30:11 <|amethyst> the first argument is supposed to be the number of arguments that precede the format string, but about half the time we use that + 1 18:31:13 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:35:30 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:37:01 would dev team be opposed to making it slightly more of a chance of finding Tm style books from drops/shops or Sif when playing a Tm? Because, man just whenever I get to the point where lair is done, D15 done and I just have two branches to work through if I haven't found another form I'm just way too squishy, but if I find like statue, dragon or maybe even hydra by then I can manage :/ 18:37:41 <|amethyst> yes, we are in general opposed to making drops depend on your character 18:38:10 ok, i guess it really only effects Fe/Op anyways 18:38:35 <|amethyst> with Sif it's not so philosophical an objection 18:41:44 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:41:50 still definitely would be if it were based on background itself 18:41:56 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:42:20 <|amethyst> right, I was thinking skill 18:43:02 <|amethyst> I could see weighting book acquirements somewhat by skills known... don't think it would necessarily be a good idea, but it's not unreasonable 18:43:23 <|amethyst> we do something similar for Veh 18:43:32 <|amethyst> btw, that something similar for Veh is done stupidly 18:43:50 book acquirement already does take your skills into account 18:44:39 <|amethyst> oh, so it does 18:45:09 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45:24 -!- Yewbacca has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7] 18:45:42 <|amethyst> FR: make veh work that way 18:45:52 <|amethyst> possibly even using that function 18:46:16 <|amethyst> rather than giving bonus weight for elemental skills but no others 18:46:34 could be reasonable yeah, i think the current thing is based loosely on a much older implementation that was focused on dealing with elemental antitraining 18:46:44 <|amethyst> yeah 18:50:30 i noticed smth on early levels: enemy minotaurs drop uncursed shortbow, but other guys drops have no such uncursed description, bug or feature? 18:50:59 if you see it swap from the shortbow to a melee weapon then you know it's uncursed 18:51:52 whereas if something just hits you with an axe you don't have any info on whether it's cursed or not 18:52:17 (and if something hits you in melee with a bow you know it is cursed) 18:52:49 ah, that makes sence, thansk 18:54:11 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 18:59:10 -!- stibbi has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02:44 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:03:05 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:05 The build passed. (0.19.3 - 738ab35 #7610 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/194095780 19:03:05 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 19:03:23 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:32 03|amethyst02 07* 0.20-a0-510-g3b403f5: Respect restart_after_game in "What is your name today?" (Fixer) 10(43 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3b403f5aec9a 19:04:44 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 19:06:38 <|amethyst> hm, looking at #10912 19:06:44 <|amethyst> I can't find the ghost in the screenshot 19:07:08 <|amethyst> oh, okay, I see it now 19:07:26 <|amethyst> are ghosts really that hard to see in tiles? 19:07:30 <|amethyst> that seems like a UI problem 19:07:46 <|amethyst> also, what's the point in having floor tiles if they just look like solid black 19:08:48 <|amethyst> maybe I just have bad gamma settings 19:09:32 <|amethyst> but I really can't tell the difference among in-LOS floor, out-of-LOS floor, and unknown squares in D 19:11:04 to some degree, nametag helps a lot 19:11:18 grey on grey in early dungeons 19:11:18 <|amethyst> yeah, the HP bar is how I found it 19:13:10 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:28:40 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:34:01 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:59 -!- Blazinghbnd has joined ##crawl-dev 19:36:35 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:41:10 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:44:27 -!- feksclaus has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7] 19:44:54 rip pizza 19:46:53 I'm assuming cockroaches being able to stand in lava is a bug ? 19:49:21 03wheals02 {GitHub} 07* 0.20-a0-511-g8067192: Remove unused setting for interrupt_eat 10(6 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/80671923d355 19:50:08 <|amethyst> droogie: they cling to walls 19:50:22 <|amethyst> droogie: so it's not a bug if there's an orthogonally adjacent wall 19:50:45 <|amethyst> it should say (clinging) if you inspect it 19:50:55 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:51:30 <|amethyst> or probably (lava, clinging) 19:54:47 -!- Hellen has quit [Client Quit] 19:58:04 ahh ok, neat 19:59:05 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:59:46 <|amethyst> droogie: applies to: spiders, leopard gecko, cockroach, demonic crawler, and dart slug 19:59:59 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:07 wheals: what was your favorite flavor 20:01:36 it'd be alright if we thought about the good times we had with pizza 20:01:49 the fabled pandemonium pizza of course 20:02:01 kudos for an all-github commit 20:02:07 oh I guess it was just one line 20:02:51 I like that GitHub gets commit credit 20:02:59 are they just farming to improve their dev stats? 20:05:07 probably, people link to their githubs on resume's a lot 20:08:57 -!- Fixer has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:09:15 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-511-g8067192 (34) 20:12:16 more devscumming... 20:16:54 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:48 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:33:25 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:33:26 The build was broken. (master - 8067192 #7612 : wheals): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/194118648 20:33:26 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:36:52 weird crash 20:38:09 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:38:37 speaking of weird crashes: http://dpaste.com/0QPD9M8 20:38:59 this happens from ./crawl -objstat Abyss,Pan,Zig -iters 1 (or any other number of iters) 20:39:07 due to a particular Zig level vault, it seems 20:39:11 a statue is placing 20:39:37 hrm, now it seems not to be a statue level 20:39:39 just a zig level 20:45:51 something about setting colors via curses? 20:48:12 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:51:24 -!- Jarlyk2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:54:15 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it's still in startup_step 20:54:18 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-512-g870a0e2: Remove a missed spell from Xom's spell list (frozenca) 10(51 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/870a0e25a55e 20:54:26 <|amethyst> gammafunk: hm 20:55:02 <|amethyst> gammafunk: oh, objstat probably doesn't init the screen 20:55:28 <|amethyst> gammafunk: not that I think it should... 20:55:36 |amethyst: yeah, I specifically had to change some things for Tiles 20:55:43 so if you build in Tiles it didn't act weird 20:55:50 <|amethyst> gammafunk: some vault's lua is killing a monster when the vault is placed 20:56:06 it's something that changed in trunk 20:56:19 since this works fine in 0.19 (or maybe it doesn't but the seed result changed) 20:56:26 so it didn't trigger in my runs 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:32 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 21:03:11 -!- stibbons has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03:35 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:55 <|amethyst> hm 21:04:13 <|amethyst> the change is the curs_set_default_colors call at the beginning of update_screen 21:04:48 <|amethyst> I'm not sure I follow the comment there either 21:04:53 <|amethyst> "// Refreshing the default colors helps keep colors synced in ttyrecs." 21:05:41 -!- stibbi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:06:20 -!- zhiyi_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:06:22 <|amethyst> if there were some way to ask "have colors been inited in the first place?" 21:08:10 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:09:16 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-512-g870a0e2 (34) 21:09:24 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:42 oh, so part of console changes from johnny0 ? 21:09:59 seems like 21:11:08 check value of COLORS (hack) 21:11:26 will likely be 0 or possibly -1 before start_colors() 21:12:50 <|amethyst> actually, since we do initscr in the same function as start_color 21:13:05 <|amethyst> is there a way to tell whether curses has been initialised 21:13:49 <|amethyst> if not, we can set a flag ourself 21:14:28 check if COLS and/or LINES are nonzero 21:14:35 and yes, COLORS is 0 before start_color() 21:15:30 hm, except there's a comment that ncurses doesn;t define them until the first refresh(), sigh 21:15:45 <|amethyst> what about stdscr? 21:15:46 could also check if stdscr == NULL 21:15:50 heh 21:18:15 -!- zhiyi_ has quit [Quit: -a- Connection Timed Out] 21:18:18 <|amethyst> also, I wonder why this isn't in an #ifndef USE_TILE_LOCAL 21:18:22 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:23 (COLORS is also 0 before initscr() fwiw) 21:18:26 <|amethyst> I mean, even the refresh(), which is old 21:20:55 * geekosaur hopes that comment about refresh and COLS/LINES is false, lots of times you'd want to know them right after initscr() and well before you ever call any refresh 21:21:13 <|amethyst> oh, right, gui has its own version of update_screen 21:21:34 <|amethyst> the USE_TILE_WEB was faking me out, but of course that one does both 21:22:40 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:23:17 <|amethyst> gammafunk: okay, this fixes it for me 21:24:01 -!- filthy has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:24:07 -!- DubDrop is now known as filthy 21:24:17 * geekosaur suddenly wonders if various things could be optimized by using a pad instead of a window for the map... 21:25:58 03|amethyst02 07* 0.20-a0-513-g02c11fc: Don't set curses colors if we never initialized curses. 10(47 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/02c11fcf27df 21:26:11 although come to think of it that'd end up being an information leak if you did X on a new level (currently you don't get much indication of where you are if you haven't seen anything outside of current LOS) 21:26:58 <|amethyst> do we even use windows? 21:27:03 <|amethyst> I mean, more than one 21:27:08 no 21:27:25 which is part of what made me wonder; various things could usefully be either windows or (likely better) pads 21:28:53 like, the messages could be a pad and then you have one thing tracking the messages usable for both the main display and ^P. or even potentially enable scrolling the "live" message area 21:29:40 hm, guess making the map a pad also loses because of LOS shadowing 21:29:43 pity 21:30:58 mm, pads also don't wrap so that may lose for messages >.< 21:31:15 <|amethyst> we do our own line breaking 21:31:50 right, my point is it differs for the main message area and ^P, so they can't usefully share a pad 21:33:36 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 21:34:20 -!- meff` has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:15 <|amethyst> port crawl to libtcod 21:37:44 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:38:33 -!- Boatshow has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:41:47 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:41:48 The build is still failing. (master - 870a0e2 #7613 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/194127406 21:41:48 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:41:48 -!- darkschneider has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:42:08 -!- darkschneider has joined ##crawl-dev 21:44:09 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:45:38 <|amethyst> wonder about this intermittent crash in fulldebug tests from inside los_csc.lua 21:46:42 <|amethyst> it's happened two out of four times in the last two builds, once in webtiles fulldebug and once in ascii fulldebug 21:47:20 <|amethyst> two out of eight times, because it didn't happen for the clang builds 21:49:00 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 21:53:02 |amethyst: thanks, that fix works for me as well 21:53:56 I have my .crawlrc setting crawl_dir but crawl can't seem to find `defaults/autopickup_extensions.txt` even though I have the `defaults` dir in `/settings/` and `/dat/` 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:38 -!- matp has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:09:13 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-513-g02c11fc (34) 22:19:56 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:57 The build was fixed. (master - 02c11fc #7614 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/194131488 22:19:57 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:24:32 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 22:24:52 -!- ssteam has quit [Client Quit] 22:29:17 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:31:49 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:32:11 -!- snapek has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:36:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:42:07 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49:22 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:49:29 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:49:55 -!- feksclaus has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7] 22:51:08 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:59:22 hrm 22:59:29 status.cc: In function ‘std::__cxx11::string _ray_text()’: 22:59:29 status.cc:118:8: warning: no previous declaration for ‘std::__cxx11::string _ray_text()’ [-Wmissing-declarations] 22:59:32 string _ray_text() 22:59:46 !source _ray_text 22:59:46 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/status.cc#L119 23:00:02 wonder if this is missing static in stable 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:32 indeed it is 23:00:50 must have happened when I cherry-picked those three ray-commits 23:01:02 probably got fixed later 23:08:34 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 23:10:25 -!- Maxrmk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:26:01 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:28:35 -!- dondy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:29:06 has `CMD_OPEN_DOOR_*` been removed from the `cmd_type` enum? 23:29:32 the Dvorak and Colemak keymap labels refer to those commands, but I don't see them in the cmd_type symbols in enum.h 23:29:50 I see only `CMD_OPEN_DOOR` 23:30:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:43:40 -!- meff` has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:44:24 -!- meff` has joined ##crawl-dev 23:45:24 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/815f63789a76b0ad2f22b60d717593194d7f660f <-- that commit got rid of the CMD_OPEN_DOOR_ actions, but the keymap binds still have them