00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:22 hrm, that's tough actually 00:00:28 since the list of classes changes by version 00:00:39 but this entry sure is hard to edit the way this is set up 00:00:42 !lg * ce won s=name x=cdist(role) ?:N>20 00:00:44 53 games for * (ce won): 29x rast [26], 24x comborobin [24] 00:00:58 nice 00:01:04 !lg * ce won s=name x=cdist(role) ?:N>15 00:01:05 70 games for * (ce won): 29x rast [26], 24x comborobin [24], 17x Pac [12] 00:01:47 why not add 27 entries 00:01:51 ??greatrace[mi 00:01:51 greatrace[1/2]: Ce: rast | DD: WalkerBoh, elliptic, qw | DE: elliptic, johnnyzero | Dg: bmfx, clouded, minmay, Lasty | Dr: eeviac, bmfx, Sharkman1231, Lasty | Ds: elliptic, Vizer, simm, bmfx, HDA, Sharkman1231, surr, minqmay, MorganLeah, Lasty | Fe: madreisz, Yermak | Fo: HDA, Yermak | Gh: Basil, elliptic | Gr: bmfx, araganzar | Ha: elliptic | HE: bmfx, johnnyzero, elliptic 00:01:51 etc 00:02:04 that could be one way 00:02:06 or a nick 00:02:12 because most races have 1-3 wins 00:02:13 so that you'd add to it with a command 00:02:16 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:02:21 1-3 wins if fine 00:02:26 the point is that it's sane to edit 00:02:34 true 00:02:39 like to edit this you have to go splitting entries, which is just horrible 00:02:52 !greatrace ce 00:03:09 rast is a greatcentaur! 00:03:23 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 00:04:12 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:05:17 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:06:04 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:08:07 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:09:19 New branch created: pull/431 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/431 00:09:19 03alexjurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/431 * 0.20-a0-471-g40e8286: Substantially buff the necklace of bloodlust 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/40e82860d69b 00:12:41 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:13:38 hellmonk: minor nitpick, abilities still show costs of (hunger) on the a screen. This is managed by some code up the top of ability.cc iirc 00:13:54 oh, cool 00:13:58 thanks for the heads up 00:14:01 I'll delete that 00:15:06 safest thing to do might just be to replace the "hunger" string with "", there might be save compat issues? 00:16:26 ??protection 00:16:27 protection[1/1]: Bonus AC. On rings, anywhere from -6 to +6. On weapons, gives +7 AC for up to 5 turns when you successfully hit a monster that isn't {firewood}. In 0.18- gave +5 AC always when wielded. On shields, +3 AC. You could also have learned any of this by viewing the in-game item description. 00:16:42 hm, is hellcrawl deliberately missing the protection rework? 00:16:45 I think I didn't merge that brand change, in case you were wondering 00:16:57 it's not so much deliberate design as laziness 00:17:16 I think prot is boring in general, prob gonna do something with it eventually 00:17:44 all good 00:18:02 merge my old PR to add artefact properties for each skill 00:18:11 so you might find armour of +5 hexes 00:18:14 diablo style 00:18:25 split mail of hte hedge mage 00:18:32 hmm, actually that might be interesting with some limits 00:19:00 like specifically medium body armor that boosts magic skills would have a lot of potential 00:19:14 would be boring to get plate of +5 axes or w/e though 00:19:26 plate armour of +10 short blades.... 00:20:59 rejected PRs I still have a soft spot for: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/159 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/123 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/49 00:26:41 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:28:16 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:29:18 Q about portal vault placement: 00:29:29 if i understand correctly, this isnt predetermined at start of game... 00:29:59 ...rather, each time a level is generated that *could* have particular portal vaults, there is a chance of placing entrances 00:30:25 is that right? 00:33:18 es 00:33:20 y 00:34:11 alright, no more hunger cost in the ability screen 00:34:43 what the heck have you done to orb spiders you sicko 00:34:55 I have made them beautiful 00:35:08 and electric 00:35:18 one of those two things is certainly true 00:35:32 they are terrifying, i approve 00:40:21 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 00:41:19 beaulectric 00:45:36 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:49:17 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:51:11 alex, I'm having trouble finding where crawl decides what the chance of placing a portal vault is 00:51:46 is there a particular chance for portal vaults, or are the entrances just in the same bucket as all the other minivaults? 00:53:21 rast: i think it's the same 00:53:51 well, they have a higher weight, specifically see the e.chance(500) line in most portal files 00:53:53 so every time someone creates a new minivault, the chance of portal vault entrances goes down? ... meh 00:54:15 is that 500/1000 or out of what? 00:54:22 i think that's true, but gamma or amethyst would know for sure 00:54:33 more like '500 tickets in the "which vault gets picked next lottery"' 00:54:38 (default is 10) 00:54:47 oh. ok 00:55:13 sorry, this is incorrect. The rate of selection is constant ignoring other vaults 00:55:21 see the documentation fr CHANCE: in docs/develop/levels/syntax.txt 00:55:51 it's a fixed chance out of 10000, so 5% for early portals 00:55:52 thanks 00:56:06 (per level, so the total chance is higher) 00:56:09 right 00:56:42 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:59:14 thanks alex, I wasnt even searching that folder before 01:00:03 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:52 03alexjurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/431 * 0.20-a0-472-g36d5673: Give Firestarter rF∞ and reduce plus 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/36d56731e090 01:01:43 strong 01:02:20 -!- bgiannan_ is now known as bgiannan 01:03:45 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:04:38 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:09:10 really hoping to stick it to all those non-unicode terminal players 01:09:26 you're way behind 01:09:34 all you have to do for that is start up a Gr 01:09:36 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:10:02 or is it become a tree? I forget, but it shows up commonly already 01:11:21 also we're using non-ascii chars by default for things like corpses 01:14:32 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:15:33 oh yes 01:15:35 dang 01:27:52 -!- coledot has quit [Quit: coledot] 01:28:17 how you know a comment was written by a british person: 01:28:30 he uses the word "quite" three times in one sentence 01:28:42 thats quite a stereotype 01:34:20 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:40:06 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:42:48 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:45:33 -!- fiyawerx has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:47:34 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:47:58 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:48:06 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:50:48 gammaefunk i am sub 99 on youtube 01:52:50 -!- sneakyness has quit [] 01:53:52 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 01:55:17 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:57:37 quite 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:03:52 alexjurkiewicz: That's only rF+++, rF∞ would require more coding 02:07:09 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:08:44 twelwe: what do I do for my 500 twitch follower / 100 youtube sub special? 02:08:47 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 02:08:54 I made a cyc thread about it but all I got were funny jokes 02:09:15 sports 02:09:32 no sports. not even e-sports 02:09:51 i`m sorry, it was a typo. i eant console ports 02:10:06 wow, 500 twitch followers? 02:10:13 errr emulators 02:10:20 so nothing to do with sports or ports, sorry 02:10:38 i really fuck up with words sometimes 02:11:00 nintendo always does a takedown notice if you try those 02:11:18 even if you play ice climbers, which is really not a fun game 02:11:56 haha 02:12:21 i kind of liked it when i was like 7 years old 02:12:29 but i was pretty easily amused then 02:12:47 as evidenced by the fact that i also used to be engrossed by tunnels of doom on the ti-99 02:18:14 -!- blank1 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:21:35 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:23:24 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:32:56 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 02:33:20 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 02:35:41 -!- circsquare has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:45:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:46:23 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:55:57 -!- lobf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:56:17 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:56:18 -!- lobf_ is now known as lobf 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:29 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:03:34 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:07:36 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:12:01 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-494-gf50ee04 (34) 03:13:26 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 03:19:01 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 03:19:29 !messages 03:19:29 No messages for SteelNeuron. 03:21:46 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:27:40 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:29:56 -!- twelwe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:30:05 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:30:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:30:44 -!- Danei[notDanei] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:37:04 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:41:24 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:47:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:12 -!- Reverie has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 04:00:53 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:18:56 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:20:18 -!- epsilonhalbe has quit [Client Quit] 04:24:59 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:34:00 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:35:49 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 04:44:43 Qazlal is such a fun god 04:44:48 Who was behind it? 04:44:58 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:46:28 grunt 04:46:41 he designed and implemented it 04:48:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:48:41 I don't know how it's perceived generally but I like it so much. It makes a drawback out of a common mechanic and gives you very thematic powers in exchange, kinda like Chei 04:48:52 Kudos to him 04:49:01 well it's what most would call a challenge god, yeah 04:49:49 very strong conduct to the point that you become in danger upon worship 04:50:05 and then the powers try to help you mitigate this 04:50:13 Yep, it's also the nice kind of conduct 04:50:22 It's not "you can't do this" but rather "enter at your own risk" 04:50:57 I think this thinking is incorrect, to call Q's type of conduct the good kind and the others the bad kind 04:51:11 I much prefer limiting conducts 04:51:19 hm, fair enough 04:51:31 To be honest I was just parroting the recent opinion against limiting conducts, but I never minded it 04:51:56 well I think lots and lots of players (and certainly lots of devs) continue to love limiting conducts 04:52:12 and certainly lots of both groups enjoy 'challenge' conducts as well 04:52:55 I wondered for a while about a possible conduct for IJC, but since I was on the complex side I moved away from it 04:53:03 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:53:21 It could be a balancing factor later on if it turns out to be too strong 04:53:26 conducts that feel like they're really new are hard to come by, something that a few different designers are always trying for 04:54:15 yeah, I think, for challenge ones, chei is very popular and q is reasonably popular 04:54:25 xom is actually like the top 3 gods by popularity 04:54:34 so even insane conducts can work if they have that 'it' factor 04:54:47 :) well, Xom *is* a conduct pretty much 04:54:53 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:55:09 well sure, but would you have guessed it'd be 04:55:16 !lg !bot recentish !boring urune<=5 s=god% 04:55:28 1665509 games for bot (recentish !boring urune<=5): 943570x (56.65%), 147430x Trog (8.85%), 95315x Okawaru (5.72%), 77709x Lugonu (4.67%), 47211x Vehumet (2.83%), 40642x Xom (2.44%), 37770x Cheibriados (2.27%), 35013x Makhleb (2.10%), 25492x Gozag (1.53%), 24296x Ashenzari (1.46%), 23664x Sif Muna (1.42%), 21120x Qazlal (1.27%), 20228x Dithmenos (1.21%), 17670x Ru (1.06%), 16255x The Shining One (... 04:55:29 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 04:55:39 er 04:55:43 !lg !bot recentish !boring urune<=5 god!= s=god% 04:55:50 the 5th most popular god, I guess 04:55:54 721941 games for bot (recentish !boring urune<=5 god!=): 147430x Trog (20.42%), 95315x Okawaru (13.20%), 77709x Lugonu (10.76%), 47211x Vehumet (6.54%), 40643x Xom (5.63%), 37770x Cheibriados (5.23%), 35013x Makhleb (4.85%), 25493x Gozag (3.53%), 24296x Ashenzari (3.37%), 23664x Sif Muna (3.28%), 21120x Qazlal (2.93%), 20228x Dithmenos (2.80%), 17670x Ru (2.45%), 16255x The Shining One (2.25%), 13... 04:55:56 and yeah there's chei 04:56:21 Hm, kinda expected Ru to be more popular 04:56:26 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:57:52 !lg !bot recentish !boring urune<=5 god!= s=god% o=-N 04:58:03 !lg !bot recentish !boring urune<=5 god!= !experimental !pak s=god% o=-N 04:58:03 721943 games for bot (recentish !boring urune<=5 god!=): 538x Wudzu (0.07%), 844x Ieoh Jian (0.12%), 2194x Jiyva (0.30%), 4914x Zin (0.68%), 5090x Elyvilon (0.71%), 5607x Fedhas (0.78%), 7669x Yredelemnul (1.06%), 9311x Beogh (1.29%), 9464x Pakellas (1.31%), 9796x Nemelex Xobeh (1.36%), 11597x Uskayaw (1.61%), 11742x Hepliaklqana (1.63%), 13358x Kikubaaqudgha (1.85%), 16255x The Shining One (2.25%... 04:58:25 IJC already closing in on jiyva 04:58:36 708372 games for bot (recentish !boring urune<=5 god!= !experimental !pak): 2180x Jiyva (0.31%), 4897x Zin (0.69%), 5054x Elyvilon (0.71%), 5576x Fedhas (0.79%), 7658x Yredelemnul (1.08%), 9276x Beogh (1.31%), 9768x Nemelex Xobeh (1.38%), 11157x Uskayaw (1.58%), 11237x Hepliaklqana (1.59%), 13322x Kikubaaqudgha (1.88%), 16226x The Shining One (2.29%), 17633x Ru (2.49%), 20177x Dithmenos (2.85%), 2... 04:58:56 this is a bit unfair to hep and usk actually, since it's including versions they're not in 04:59:04 I think they both rank fairly well in 0.18+ 04:59:25 !lg * hep min=cv x=cv 04:59:26 12230. [cv=0.18-a] cheetah7071 the Impaler (L12 MfGl of Hepliaklqana), slain by an eight-headed hydra on Lair:4 on 2016-02-18 05:24:46, with 13981 points after 16773 turns and 0:39:25. 04:59:34 !lg !bot recentish !boring urune<=5 god!= s=god% recent 04:59:40 449821 games for bot (recentish !boring urune<=5 god!= recent): 91844x Trog (20.42%), 61018x Okawaru (13.56%), 49882x Lugonu (11.09%), 28030x Vehumet (6.23%), 24420x Xom (5.43%), 22573x Cheibriados (5.02%), 20823x Makhleb (4.63%), 15956x Gozag (3.55%), 14404x Ashenzari (3.20%), 14171x Sif Muna (3.15%), 12194x Qazlal (2.71%), 12040x Dithmenos (2.68%), 11266x Hepliaklqana (2.50%), 11175x Uskayaw (2.... 04:59:50 :) I need to learn the arcane arts of Sequell 05:00:00 I can imagine what you're looking at from context, but I have no clue what you're writing 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:23 yeah, just watching people make queries, but also see ??lg and ??lg_examples 05:00:37 How would I get an estimate for the winrate of IJC? 05:00:40 I think those hep and usk rankings are still not quite right 05:00:48 uh, do you want current or all-time? 05:00:50 since the god change 05:00:57 I think current would be best 05:00:57 -!- debo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:01:04 past two weeks or so 05:01:06 hrm, what's a commit I can use? 05:01:11 let's see 05:01:24 probably the earliest commit in the sequence of commits doing the rework 05:01:29 and we can save in a kw for later 05:01:37 oh right 05:01:48 er, never mind, you did a rebase 05:02:00 hrm, that's an interesting problem really 05:02:16 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413/commits/bf3359ac4ef0ced3420b55dc77867e7c40915afe 05:02:28 Don't worry, the experimental is based on the older PR 05:02:36 oh 05:02:43 is that in another file even? 05:02:55 probably? I'm not sure 05:03:01 heh, github doesn't even try to show the diff, nice 05:03:12 there's the old branch where I PR'd from, and the experimental is based on it 05:03:20 I rebased on a different branch to do the final, readable PR 05:03:22 !lg * god=ieoh_jian s=file 05:03:23 872 games for * (god=ieoh_jian): 872x cbro/crawl/meta/councilgod/logfile 05:03:30 ok, but they're all in the same file 05:03:35 so lets see the vlongs 05:03:38 !lg * god=ieoh_jian s=vlong 05:03:39 872 games for * (god=ieoh_jian): 99x 0.20-a0-191-g0795697, 81x 0.20-a0-548-gad3071d, 55x 0.20-a0-450-g4cf9236, 54x 0.20-a0-250-g5a49c73, 52x 0.20-a0-253-g212d612, 51x 0.20-a0-235-g8b3a786, 44x 0.20-a0-211-g4a6ff27, 44x 0.20-a0-671-g993d97e, 34x 0.20-a0-425-g5c7d01b, 30x 0.20-a0-229-gb08847c, 30x 0.20-a0-675-g770066e, 29x 0.20-a0-264-gaba7314, 21x 0.20-a0-260-g5dcb07a, 20x 0.20-a0-225-g9e35ab2, 19x... 05:04:04 !lg * god=ieoh_jian oh ok good, the commit number 05:04:05 No keyword 'oh' 05:04:05 that's the key 05:04:10 er, haha, oops 05:04:32 but the commit number increased because you made it relative to trunk, so it should be ok 05:05:49 so that relative file path, where is it relative to? 05:05:52 -!- voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:06:11 Lightli: oops, i missed the part where i did all that coding 05:06:28 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 05:06:43 the file is just a file on cbro, the point of that was to see if johnstein had the god in multiple logfiles somehow 05:07:08 so I just need to figure out which of these version numbers we actually want 05:07:35 don't worry if it's a mess :) 05:07:43 no it's fine 05:07:57 SteelNeuron: so this is the new PR, and there was an older one with the previous version of the god? 05:08:30 oh right, you probably used the same branch on your repo anyhow 05:08:31 All playable (on CBRO) versions of the god have been based on the same PR, which is the one with the commit I linked 05:08:37 as far as I know 05:09:02 ok, and when you redid the god, all that went in the same PabloMansanet:council_god branch as before, right? 05:09:13 you just made commits on top and later rebased, as I recall 05:09:38 so I just need to figure out the commit before the rework, and the first commit of the rework 05:09:43 Actually... hmm 05:09:51 I think my rebased branch is different 05:09:53 council_god_rebase 05:10:08 oh 05:10:23 right, and that's probably not being played even, is it 05:10:29 since it's just a rebase for merging purposes 05:10:39 exactly 05:10:42 that would actually make things easier, no rebase to even consider 05:11:05 Yeah I didn't want to mess with the experimental on CBRO :) 05:11:11 If it ain't broke... 05:11:22 so yeah, I'll figure that out, should just take a bit, but if you are gone I'll send you a tell 05:12:07 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 05:12:20 I'll be around for a while, at the office now :) 05:14:15 %git 350a136b0fb7468d96d8dd614a1104650695b510 05:14:15 07PabloMansanet02 * 0.20-a0-667-g350a136: Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/master' into council_god 10(9 days ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/350a136b0fb7 05:14:24 looks like going by merges 05:14:38 that is a good candidate 05:14:39 and 05:14:46 simply the head 05:14:54 %git a0108bb5d4902b1baed102862c8f173c31d00dbe 05:14:54 07PabloMansanet02 * 0.20-a0-694-ga0108bb: Merge branch 'master' into council_god 10(3 days ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a0108bb5d490 05:15:15 the first was the rework, the second did include some balance changes 05:15:26 but there's nearly a week of games between the two 05:15:40 yeah that's a great range 05:16:04 !kw ijc 05:16:04 Keyword: ijc => god=ieoh_jian 05:16:16 it's probably a very small sample size anyway but I'm interested to see how much people are winning recently 05:16:34 !kw newijc ijc vlong>=0.20-a0-667-g350a136 05:16:35 Defined keyword: newijc => ijc vlong>=0.20-a0-667-g350a136 05:16:35 -!- debo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:16:50 !kw newnewijc ijc vlong>=0.20-a0-694-ga0108bb 05:16:51 Defined keyword: newnewijc => ijc vlong>=0.20-a0-694-ga0108bb 05:17:00 obviously you could give that one a less jokey name 05:17:09 !lg * newijc 05:17:11 100. huiren the Cutter (L7 DESk of Ieoh Jian), slain by btp524's ghost on D:4 on 2017-01-17 08:13:12, with 528 points after 4513 turns and 0:19:39. 05:17:16 yeah that's pretty few already 05:17:19 !lg * newnewijc 05:17:20 19. huiren the Cutter (L7 DESk of Ieoh Jian), slain by btp524's ghost on D:4 on 2017-01-17 08:13:12, with 528 points after 4513 turns and 0:19:39. 05:17:26 only 19 for the newest 05:17:33 !lg * newnewijc !boring / won 05:17:34 0/19 games for * (newnewijc !boring): N=0/19 (0.00%) 05:17:40 !lg * newijc !boring / won 05:17:41 5/99 games for * (newijc !boring): N=5/99 (5.05%) 05:17:53 !lg * newijc won s=name,char 05:17:54 5 games for * (newijc won): Bailgrim (DsTm), grandjackal (DsMo), LostInTranslocation (VSGl), sorlin (MiMo), traveller (HOMo) 05:18:40 so typical winrate is like 1.5% maybe, but that's across everything, and these are micro samples 05:19:07 so you're not going to get any great statistics for even "how often players die with ijc", since these are just too few data points and more experienced players 05:19:08 yep, and you have to factor in unfamiliarity with the god, and the fact that people don't take experimentals that seriously 05:19:20 Thanks for digging that data though 05:19:21 yeah, right those are counterfactors 05:19:39 but basically use newijc as a kw for queries to go back to just post rework 05:19:50 and you can use newnewijc for most recent 05:19:53 awesome! 05:20:06 speaking of branch complications 05:20:24 the very latest changes (mostly based on MarvinPA's feedback) have only gone into the rebased branch 05:20:43 I'm not really supporting the older PR anymore, not to duplicate work, I suppose that's fine? 05:21:07 that works if it's getting close to ready and more player feedback isn't really needed, yeah 05:21:10 The experimental will stay where it is, but I imagine regardless of what happens with the god, the experimental is approaching the end of its life cycle 05:21:24 well more exp. branch player feedback that is 05:21:42 From my end, I think the merge-able PR is ready, there hasn't been a bug report in quite a while 05:21:57 and the difference with the experimental is just a couple messaging tweaks and a holiness check 05:23:35 yeah if a few people have looked over it and feel it's ok and there are no others strongly objecting, that's generally a sign it's ready for a merge 05:24:28 I won't have time to play it in the short term before merge, but can look at code at some point soon; I'd probably defer to what others think now the good seems closer to what I'd call 'sane' (referring to the old version) 05:25:29 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:25:40 not sure what Lasty thinks about it or even what MPA thinks still needs addressing, or if PF or Brannock have opinions 05:26:12 amalloy is probably a bit busy, so it's going to be those four mostly 05:27:42 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 05:27:50 Yep, I fully expect some discussion/review to take place :) 05:27:55 Just flagging it ready from my end 05:28:42 should I send them tells? I suppose they know it's up already 05:31:17 they do I'm sure, yeah, and we mostly go by "try pinging people every few days or so" without having expectations of response all that soon 05:32:13 -!- debo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:33:08 I will be taking a careful look at the god in a couple days regardless 05:33:19 %git 05:33:19 07MarvinPA02 * 0.20-a0-494-gf50ee04: Update some skill descs in the manual 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f50ee04efdd4 05:33:21 cheers :) I will be looking forward to your comments 05:33:27 %git stone_soup-0.19 05:33:27 07MarvinPA02 {PleasingFungus} * 0.19.1-1-g22dce08: Remove Cure Poison from some vault-defined books (#10842) 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 8+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/22dce085e39b 05:33:47 we still have maybe 5 months of release left, plenty of time! 05:33:55 4.5 maybe 05:38:41 yep, no rush. 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what? 11:04:47 Pleasingfungus: OK, I'll let alexjurkiewicz know. 11:05:01 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:09:00 -!- nattefrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:10:22 -!- Ratatosk has quit [Quit: Ratatosk] 11:14:05 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:18:47 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:26:30 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:29:02 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:14 -!- Dark-Jedi has quit [Quit: If it breaks, you get to keep both backports.] 11:35:52 -!- keipra has quit [] 11:43:55 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:55:52 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:20 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:04:03 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-494-gf50ee04 (34) 12:05:09 -!- Taraiphette is now known as Taraiph 12:05:58 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:08:04 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:07 Effect of spell power is unclear for many spells 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10906 by DivineHammer 12:12:56 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:18:46 -!- darkschneider has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:18:57 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:19:03 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:19:03 -!- darkschneider has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:10 ah cool, IJC got merged in? 12:20:45 !tell steelneuron yes, releases are twice a year 12:20:45 amalloy: OK, I'll let steelneuron know. 12:20:59 huh? 12:21:03 it's not in the commit log 12:21:37 oh i'm wrong 12:21:42 misread the backlog 12:22:06 Pleasingfungus: just keeping you on your toes 12:22:17 tricksy 12:31:26 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:35:19 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:38:31 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:38:37 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:39:47 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:22 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:28 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:53 -!- Yxhuvud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57:55 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03:16 -!- Harudoku has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:03:17 "Yeah, I didn't know what divine shield did - I thought it made me near-invincible for a few turns" 13:04:06 heh 13:04:12 i suppose the ability description is ambiguous. 13:07:00 -!- adelrune has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:08:20 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:50 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:10:28 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:50 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:18:43 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:19:37 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:39:29 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:40:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:36 -!- eady is now known as jonadab 13:42:55 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44:15 -!- Fixer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:45:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:46:35 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:56:18 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:04:33 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:07:12 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Client Quit] 14:10:35 -!- bgiannan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:15:24 -!- bannakaf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:17:44 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:19:04 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:53 -!- bgiannan has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:25:56 -!- bgiannan1 is now known as bgiannan 14:26:22 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:25 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:32:32 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:24 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:39:50 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:11 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:41:25 -!- Pleasingfungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.1.0/20161208153507]] 14:45:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:49:49 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:54:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:56:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:08:25 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:48 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:15:22 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:17:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:17:33 -!- adelrune is now known as adelruse 15:17:34 -!- matp has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:20:34 SteelNeuron: (and anyone else interested in ijc stuff) i wrote a thing: http://sprunge.us/TMYI 15:21:27 it's a notestorm! 15:21:53 apologies for many words, but that's basically everything i noticed while looking through the implementation, varies in importance 15:22:07 and i've not gotten to the martial move implementations yet 15:23:51 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:16 might work on fixing some of those if i get time, i think most of it is not too difficult to address 15:25:25 -!- coledot has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:43 Wow, don't apologize for that! Thank you, it looks super in depth 15:26:43 SteelNeuron: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 15:26:45 I'll dive into it now 15:26:47 !messages 15:26:48 (1/1) amalloy said (3h 6m 2s ago): yes, releases are twice a year 15:27:09 hm, the momentum bonus thing for divine weapons might also just be unnecessary generally, since you're already getting a ridiculously good weapon 15:27:44 but otherwise i think implementing it as a status that affects all martial attacks is possibly cleaner (both in terms of code and gameplay) 15:27:48 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:28:16 so far what I'm reading is super welcome, because you point out lots of hand wavy things that I did out of lack of experience with the code base 15:28:36 and I agree, divine weapons don't need to get extra damage after a normal move, that's an artifact from when they were stealable 15:28:52 same thing with the projected weapon cancelling, that made sense when they lasted much longer 15:29:28 yeah, having it all rebased makes it a lot easier to spot things like that that just got lost in the shuffle 15:29:42 I agree with all of the Steel Dragonfy thing, except maybe the randomized duration 15:29:54 mostly because it being fixed means you can be a bit more consistent 15:30:06 with your tricks, that is 15:31:09 will remove the traps, but why doesn't netting not work? When I tested it, it seemed to tangle you into a spider web 15:31:21 true, but that has weird interactions if you're just doing normal attacks while the weapon is out (since those might be like 0.7 or 0.8 duration or whatever) 15:31:59 you get netted for a single turn, but then because there's no actual net item or web feature, it ends as soon as you make any move (with no message) 15:32:30 gotcha 15:33:07 Yeah, I'll act on all of this, it makes sense. I didn't realize how much stuff was obsoleted 15:33:18 I can't think of a satisfying solution to the inventory issue 15:33:20 could have it create an actual web, but then that probably depends if your current tile is valid for a web (and is also a bit weird thematically) 15:33:26 other than outright prompting you what you want, when you use the ability 15:33:28 -!- cait is now known as yesno 15:33:39 whether you want an ally or a weapon (and only offering an ally if you're full) 15:34:51 maybe your current wielded weapon could just be removed from your inventory and straight-up replaced with the divine weapon (and stored somewhere for the duration, not sure the best way of doing that technically but i feel like it should be possible) 15:35:09 -!- Voker57|2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35:37 That's a possibility, but it's an issue with unarmed users that can wield 15:36:12 unless unarmed is fully ruled out, and felids banned from worshipping again (which could work) 15:37:45 could also do something hacky like add an extra inventory slot specifically for divine weapons only 15:38:32 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38:49 seems like felids could still function under the god with both actives disabled and just the passives, even if that wouldn't be a great choice necessarily (as with oka for example, where they still get the actives but no gifts) 15:38:57 -!- bannakaffalatta has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:39:15 sucks to be a felid but that's what you signed up for 15:40:59 1learn add felid <+MarvinPA> sucks to be a felid but that's what you signed up for 15:44:33 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:51:24 I mean, a more radical alternative is to completely remove animated weapons in the context of the god 15:51:29 do we really need them? 15:51:39 I like the idea of throwing a weapon somewhere, then swapping with it to gain distance 15:51:58 but it isn't an essential part of the god 15:52:15 swap with it while it's still flying through the air to gain momentum 15:52:28 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:53:24 I might be dragging Project Weapon along as a relic of past iterations, when something that works better with the passives could take its place (preferably something simple) 15:56:01 i imagine project weapon would still be really powerful just as the "do a melee attack at range" portion, without any animation afterwards 15:56:14 in terms of keeping it as something along its current lines 15:57:11 probably something that deserves a higher piety cost already 15:57:47 oh i literally just noticed that it costs hp too, that probably shouldn't be the case 15:58:41 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:33 -!- victorclf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:02:36 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:59 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:57 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:12:12 Does it? 16:12:15 It... shouldn't?? 16:12:22 I don't recall adding that, at least not consciously 16:13:51 Alternatively... Steel Dragonfly could be much simpler and just do a powerful attack at a distance, and just leave the weapon there 16:13:55 If you want it, go fetch it 16:14:23 (or boomerang back directly as you're suggesting) 16:14:54 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:47 -!- darkschneider has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:19:04 -!- darkschneider has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:37 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 16:23:15 -!- bannakaffalatta has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I got it! MarvinPA you there? 18:16:22 I need you to give me a sanity check :) 18:16:28 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:17:12 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:34 -!- scummos| has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:22:02 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:51 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:30:43 !tell MarvinPA I think I have a much more fitting substitute for Dragonfly that works better with the kit. "Focus (2 MP, 2 piety, exh, instant): Your next movement action is instant 18:30:44 SteelNeuron: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 18:31:32 !tell MarvinPA possibly two or three consecutive movements if it is too weak, or increasing the cost if it is too strong. Please let me know if that would break something 18:31:33 SteelNeuron: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 18:31:45 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:36:21 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:42:41 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:45:51 -!- victorclf has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:46:27 -!- archreplicator has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:48:08 Water nymph cannot open doors 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10907 by Qwert225 18:52:38 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:53:54 how can I check if a monster's holiness matches one of several types? 18:53:54 alexjurkiewicz: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:53:59 !messages 18:54:00 (1/1) Pleasingfungus said (7h 49m 13s ago): haste has an icon...? what? 18:54:13 !tell pleasingfungus like the little blue chevron on the player doll 18:54:13 alexjurkiewicz: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 18:54:43 (mons.holiness() & (MH_UNDEAD | MH_NATURAL)) 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00:12 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:01:35 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: if you need to do that in a situation that doesn't count as "explicitly converted to bool", you'll also need a bool() or (bool) or static_cast() or such 19:01:56 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz: fortunately, the condition of an if counts as explicitly converted 19:02:16 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:36 Wizmode: Unable to give equipment to water nymphs 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10908 by Qwert225 19:05:17 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:07:21 |amethyst: phew 19:11:04 -!- Pleasingfungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:12:01 does anyone have a strong opinion on whether water nymphs should be able to open doors 19:12:01 Pleasingfungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:12:25 @??water nymph 19:12:25 water nymph (06m) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 32-46 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 1212(drown) | amphibious, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100), 12drown | XP: 443 | Sp: waterstrike (3d17) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 19:12:46 the tile has hands, so you have no choice in the matter really 19:12:50 haha 19:13:05 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:13:19 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:14:58 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:00 i'd have assumed they'd be able to since they're ms, could very hypothetically be relevant in shoals:$ 19:15:01 MarvinPA: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 19:15:20 looks like merfolk avatars also can't, seems like those should be able to 19:17:49 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:18:13 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-495-g2241292: Let misc shoals humanoids open doors (10907) 10(62 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/22412924b8dd 19:30:04 -!- jeefus is now known as jefus 19:39:21 -!- Dix has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:41:06 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:55:10 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:55:50 -!- wheals_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:57:19 -!- Fixer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:59:35 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:06 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:02:59 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:03:00 The build has errored. (master - 2241292 #7580 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/192879848 20:03:00 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:04:41 03alexjurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/431 * 0.20-a0-471-g03c967b: Substantially buff the necklace of bloodlust 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/03c967befef1 20:04:41 03alexjurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/431 * 0.20-a0-472-g382e9ec: Give Firestarter rF∞ and reduce plus 10(12 hours ago, 3 files, 7+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/382e9ec30c33 20:04:41 03alexjurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/431 * 0.20-a0-473-g1bb5c75: Rework Finisher 10(12 hours ago, 3 files, 20+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1bb5c754c9c5 20:06:23 -!- Pleasingfungus has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:09:22 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-495-g2241292 (34) 20:09:27 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10:00 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:33 -!- anthems has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:14:02 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:20:48 -!- Pleasingfungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:27:39 -!- AngelaSmythe has quit [*.net *.split] 20:27:39 -!- snapek has quit [*.net *.split] 20:27:39 -!- minqmay has quit [*.net *.split] 20:27:39 -!- Cerpin has quit [*.net *.split] 20:27:56 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:29:12 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 20:29:13 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:39:13 archaelogists, huh 20:39:19 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 20:39:31 this is very elaborate. 20:41:12 true 20:41:32 on a semi-related topic, I'm trying Ba again. They're the last race I haven't won/one-and-won 20:43:06 that's because they're the new mummy. 20:43:16 You wish! 20:43:34 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:43:45 mummies are the new... felid. 20:44:14 oh, felids. 20:44:19 !lg lasty felid x=dur 20:44:20 11. [dur=6:27:10] Lasty the Acrobat (L27 FeCj of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2017-01-18 00:16:37, with 1329402 points after 145029 turns and 6:27:10. 20:44:34 and felids, of course, are the new ogres 20:44:35 man they take so long if you play carefully 20:44:41 and ogres are the new HE 20:44:49 yahtzee! 20:46:24 -!- us17 has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 20:46:37 !lg * barachian s=god 20:46:38 2178 games for * (barachian): 1301x, 314x Trog, 144x Cheibriados, 79x Lugonu, 77x Okawaru, 44x Xom, 31x Makhleb, 21x Ashenzari, 19x Hepliaklqana, 18x Sif Muna, 18x The Shining One, 18x Gozag, 15x Qazlal, 14x Ru, 12x Vehumet, 11x Yredelemnul, 7x Uskayaw, 7x Kikubaaqudgha, 5x Dithmenos, 5x Jiyva, 4x Fedhas, 4x Zin, 4x Elyvilon, 3x Ieoh Jian, 3x Nemelex Xobeh 20:46:54 !lg * barachian s=god won 20:46:56 32 games for * (barachian won): 7x Trog, 6x Cheibriados, 3x Ashenzari, 3x Okawaru, 2x Vehumet, 2x Xom, 2x Kikubaaqudgha, Yredelemnul, Uskayaw, Hepliaklqana, Gozag, Elyvilon, Dithmenos, 20:47:21 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:51:36 hooray, another Ba down 20:57:03 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:04 bafi... more like ba-ring! (pronounced 'boring') 20:59:28 . . . don't tempt me to agree! 20:59:35 :P 20:59:46 So far my experience is that mage-y Ba are just awful, but people seem to have no trouble with tanky ones 20:59:50 so I'm trying that 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03:24 my bacj and basu seemed fine 21:03:28 but that's a sample size of 3 21:04:42 well, Su 21:09:45 -!- firemonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:12:56 are su not mage-y? 21:13:23 don't forget yr hops :) 21:14:05 Su aren't magey because they can constantly interpose summons 21:14:09 they have an escape route 21:14:23 i guess i don't know what 'magey' means! 21:14:58 In this case I'm using it as short-hand for "characters that die if they run out of MP while there are monsters faster than them around that aren't dead" 21:15:09 which describes most book backgrounds in the very early game 21:15:38 hrm 21:15:54 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:21 and hops are great when they work out, but you can easily "hop" one tile 21:17:07 (or is it two tiles minimum? anyway, not far) 21:17:40 !lg pleasingfungus ba -log 21:17:42 2. PleasingFungus, XL1 BaSu, T:386: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/PleasingFungus/morgue-PleasingFungus-20170108-164724.txt 21:17:44 if you're aiming at the edge of range, minimum is 2 21:17:52 oh, i frogot about those games 21:17:56 i was thinking of the offline test games 21:18:00 (doesn't count!) 21:18:01 &dump 21:18:02 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:03 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/PleasingFungus/PleasingFungus.txt 21:18:12 ^ current froggo 21:18:12 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:20:26 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:20 !hs * ba fedhas 21:21:21 4. mopl the Carver (L10 BaSk of Fedhas), slain by a two-headed ogre (a +0 giant spiked club) on D:9 on 2017-01-09 17:45:12, with 4647 points after 12141 turns and 0:22:45. 21:23:15 Lasty: why do you keep autoexploring on a level with grinder on it 21:23:20 also, why do you keep trying to fight grinder 21:23:34 I was testing whether I could kill him safely w/ plants 21:23:36 answer: no 21:23:41 rip... 21:23:45 but I keep autoexploring into him 21:23:51 I think I'd better just go down stairs 21:23:54 yes 21:24:03 ouch 21:24:17 well, that worked 21:24:19 haha 21:24:27 it works surprisingly often :P 21:25:02 -!- Boatshow has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:25:02 i was thinking, "i don't see gnoll zombies very often", and then i realized... they don't spawn outside vaults these days... 21:25:11 yeah 21:25:19 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26:19 -!- matp has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26:29 those poison clouds are brutal 21:26:48 they're solid 21:26:55 they're actually less damage than a good sting hit 21:26:58 but they do always hit 21:27:52 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:28:33 right now the duration is... 1-5 turns at max power? 21:28:38 yeah 21:29:34 would've been a good use of brill, there 21:29:43 or haste 21:30:34 hm, should we allow < for shops? 21:30:37 yeah, haste could have worked, but he got a lot of shots while fleeing 21:30:46 I thought he'd go down faster to !might 21:30:52 I think so 21:30:56 er I think we go 21:30:57 *do 21:31:06 i was wondering about the 'you can't go up here' 21:31:11 i guess you weren't standing on it? 21:31:22 oh, maybe we don't 21:31:26 will test 21:31:42 yeah, we do allow it 21:33:46 Edmund says to your wandering mushroom, "I may not be good at magic, but i can still crush you!" Your wandering mushroom releases spores at Edmund. Edmund dies! 21:33:57 he's not, you know 21:34:05 good at magic? 21:34:09 yup 21:34:16 hard to say. we never see him try! 21:34:22 he casts Spammals! 21:34:25 and imps 21:34:34 that's... eustachio. 21:34:39 er, right 21:34:49 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:35:04 I was just fighting Eustachio, so I just assumed 21:35:09 you were just fighting edmund 21:35:13 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 21:35:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 21:39:57 huh... bees 21:40:07 yeah, shouldn't have angered that whole hive 21:40:08 that was silly 21:40:18 i looked away for a little bit and saw you surrounded 21:40:40 even with OTR, a whole hive is a bit much for 16 mp 21:40:43 heh 21:40:55 quite a party here... meph unreasons? 21:41:17 wow, 0 fighting 21:41:22 -!- GraemeLion has joined ##crawl-dev 21:41:27 no, just bees buzzing 21:41:41 I actually did a typo instead of a meph that would have resolved that cleaner :p 21:41:46 rip... 21:41:49 fighting for hp is extremely overrated 21:41:53 hey, any battle you can hop away from 21:42:06 -!- eb has quit [] 21:43:23 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:44:30 man, OTR is so much worse when you're slow. I forgot about that . . . 21:46:51 wow, another monster appearing during a 1-on-1 fight? this does NOT happen in MY crawl 21:46:56 hahaha 21:47:04 esp not when using /lightning 21:47:36 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:50:00 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 21:50:02 !log 21:50:04 4062. Lightli, XL10 KoHu, T:9934: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Lightli/morgue-Lightli-20170117-234211.txt 21:50:13 !log 21:50:14 4063. 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