00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:08 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-386-g2d247ea (34) 00:00:34 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:02:13 -!- Pleasingfungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:03:40 !tell yermak iceblast doesn't extinguish fire clouds because it's BEAM_ICE, not BEAM_COLD - similar to throw icicle 00:03:41 Pleasingfungus: You have 4 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:03:41 Pleasingfungus: OK, I'll let yermak know. 00:04:38 Yeah, it's technical reason. But from the gameplay point of view? 00:04:38 Yermak: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:04:57 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 00:05:05 there's a kind of consistent game logic there 00:05:11 it's too much physical and not enough cold to put out the flame 00:05:15 kind of 00:05:21 err, ok 00:05:44 maybe it's worth changing? i'll sleep on it 00:05:50 but fireball and iceblast definitely aren't fully symmetric 00:06:02 iceblast can only be partially resisted, after all 00:06:13 so there's no particular reason that the fire/cold cloud thing has to be symmetric 00:08:04 !tell brannock not sure about frogs mentioning amphib in A - it makes sense, but mf and op don't. 00:08:04 Pleasingfungus: OK, I'll let brannock know. 00:08:37 oh pf 00:08:56 that video was a primo example of high tier blinking 00:09:05 yes, that was your caption 00:09:08 can't beat those brows... 00:09:13 haha 00:09:14 mf and op have stealthy swim documented 00:09:18 what's the keyword for experimental branches? expadjsflasdf? 00:09:19 so it's indirectly mentioned 00:09:30 explrb 00:10:36 !lg * explbr=frogs 00:10:36 No games for * (explbr=frogs). 00:10:39 hrm 00:10:43 i guess it's not tracked yet 00:10:50 I guess I was just caught off guard with frogs being able to swim, going "whoa, right, they can swim". maybe it's just heritable knowledge of mf/op 00:11:05 EXPerimentaLBRanch 00:11:13 why the l.... 00:11:26 Brannock: my vague feeling is that they probably need to be amphibious at least until the name is no longer 'frog' 00:11:37 maybe i should just rename them real fast. 00:11:45 pf: how else would you differentiate it from experience branches??? 00:11:46 speaking of other mutations that aren't mentioned, aux attacks are mentioned nowhere on easily accessible screens 00:11:55 especially evidence for draconian tailslap 00:11:58 *evident 00:12:20 I was going to fix this way back, but then I got lost in the code. 00:12:31 Lost in the Code: One Coder's Story 00:12:40 haha 00:13:49 my other impression of frogs after taking one to Lair 1 (and dying to sonja) is that I think they need one more Something to really stand out. I like hopping a lot, low stats and slow movement make me consider what I'm doing carefully, but then ------... the flat aptitudes and regular hp/mp/exp leave me with not much to do other than follow whims of floorgod 00:13:58 they need one more something to really round em out 00:14:00 doesn't have to be major 00:14:03 hrm 00:14:03 imho 00:14:05 that just sounds like crawl 00:14:09 crawl is good. 00:14:43 i feel like i don't want frogs gimmicks to completely define their gameplay. something that accentuates and changes a game, but doesn't define a playstyle in itself. 00:14:52 my immediate mental comparison was to naga, who have tough skin, deformed body, poison spit, very slow movement, barding, strongly slanted aptitudes 00:15:01 not syaing they should be like naga, though. 00:15:05 yeah, idk 00:15:22 anyway I speak as a player here for the above, not as a dev 00:15:26 i will note it down and put it into the Total Feedback Bucket. 00:15:31 looking at them from a dev perspective they seem Sufficient 00:15:33 sure, player feedback is what i'm lookin for! 00:15:34 haha 00:17:06 halflings have mutation resistance 1, which is functionally inconsequential, but does give them a certain amount of flavor and "something to look forward to" beyond what they get immediately 00:17:38 similar things for tengu flight, draconian resistance upgrades, et al 00:17:45 uh 00:17:49 they get mutation resistance at xl 1... 00:17:56 yes, but it doesn't really come into play until you start seeing mutaters 00:18:00 and frogs do get an upgrade 00:18:06 you did know that, right? 00:18:08 yes 00:18:13 ok, just czechin 00:18:40 given the 2-tile fuzz on hopping, one extra tile is nice (and would have made a difference in a bunch of situations I ran into in my pre-Lair adventures) but it doesn't feel... meaty, I guess? 00:18:54 I need to play a few more frogs before I can summon the right vocabulary for this 00:19:05 i gotcha. it's not meaty, yeah 00:19:15 umami. savory. 00:19:18 lol 00:19:21 BAD IDEAS: they could gain amphib 00:19:47 QUESTIONABLE IDEAS: tongue attack, but not bad 00:19:48 (but actually frogs don't need any more active abilities) 00:19:51 I saw a joke post suggesting that they gain mutation vulnerability 00:19:54 just like irl frogs 00:21:06 lol 00:21:11 rFungus- 00:22:21 speaking of nature, http://i.imgur.com/5O3PzOm.gifv frog slays hornet 00:22:44 brutal 00:24:05 Pleasingfungus, do you have an opinion on AF_THRASH? core concept of it, anyway, since I'm probably gonna take amalloy's suggestion to just weigh water tiles over nonwater tiles instead of flat-out prioritize water 00:24:05 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 00:24:18 I had two negative opinions of it thus far and am mulling over whether to keep working on it or scrap it 00:25:02 well, I'm not sure if gammafunk's opinion was really negative, or just "it's annoying, fix that" 00:25:14 i didn't get a chance to look into it. it's something about reverse trample? 00:25:18 and water tiles 00:25:25 inspired by that, yeah 00:25:42 alligators reposition target to another tile adjacent to the gator, preferring water tiles 00:26:19 stemming from a conversation I had a few days ago with gammafunk about Swamp deficiencies and how to unify its character 00:26:24 hm 00:26:38 search devlogs for "player-repositioning" 00:26:47 if so inclined 00:26:48 i liked reverse trample, but i can see why this would be easier to make relevant 00:27:04 hm 00:29:29 another silly Swamp idea: insubstantial wisps leave behind ghostly flame (will-o'the-wisps) when they blink 00:32:35 dang, rude 00:32:50 not sure what to do with swamp worms, though 00:33:06 !tell gammafunk frogs sequell PR submitted 00:33:07 johnstein: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 00:33:26 !tell greensna1k new frogs experimental PR submitted 00:33:26 johnstein: OK, I'll let greensna1k know. 00:33:39 -!- duskshroud has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:34:46 gammafunk's complaint seems to have been that doing a little dance to get out of water, when fighting one enemy at a time especially (very common), would be kind of mindless and annoying. a 'no-brainer'? 00:34:59 contemplating how it could be made more impactful but less frequent 00:35:25 also whether that's worse than water nymph water aura, which is a similar mechanic 00:35:25 !lg * explbr=frogs 00:35:26 No games for * (explbr=frogs). 00:35:30 !lg * explbr=frogdsf 00:35:31 No games for * (explbr=frogdsf). 00:35:40 !lm * explbr=frogs 00:35:40 No milestones for * (explbr=frogs). 00:35:57 nymph aura doesn't threat to toss you into a waiting squadron of hydra/swampdrag, at least 00:36:00 just got merged. I didn't know how long it usually takes for sequell to start using it 00:36:03 idk if that's sequell or the reality... no one was playing it when i checked 00:36:10 there's been a few games 00:36:12 Brannock: does thrash? it's gonna move you like 2 tiles tops 00:36:14 there were about 5-6 players playing frogs when I died eariler tonight 00:36:17 and I always sacrifice at least one player 00:36:19 haha 00:36:25 the winrate cost...! 00:36:43 (otherwise the log/stones files are blank and that has messed up sequell in the past) 00:36:55 !gamesby cbrotest 00:36:55 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:36:56 cbrotest has played 116 games, between 2014-01-25 00:58:10 and 2016-12-28 23:38:39, won 0, high score 1554, total score 3341, total turns 31485, play-time/day 0:00:07, total time 2:06:45. 00:37:02 well, thrash makes it that a safe position isn't really safe, and in Swamp I frequently find myself hunkering down in one spot and letting enemies come to me (vs Shoals where I'm repositioning frequently to break LOS) 00:37:05 !hs cbrotest 00:37:06 116. cbrotest the Skirmisher (L8 HEFi), slain by a shadow imp on D:5 on 2016-10-02 22:20:12, with 1554 points after 6639 turns and 0:18:08. 00:37:13 D:5! further than usual 00:37:27 so my Intention is that alligators are suddenly scary threats that sprint at the player. whether this is the reality might be another matter 00:37:27 !streak 00:37:29 johnstein has 2 consecutive wins (GrBe, MfTm; VSBe, OgWr). 00:37:36 %git thrash 00:37:36 07Brannock02 * 0.20-a0-373-gbc3c903: Adjust Swamp spawns 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bc3c903f4b4d 00:37:38 !streak explbr= 00:37:39 johnstein (explbr=) has 3 consecutive wins (VSBe, OgWr, HuFi). 00:37:51 does check ac, good 00:37:55 Pleasingfungus, that's what happens when I forget which account is logged in :/ 00:38:14 sacrificed a LEGIT JOHNSTEIN 00:38:18 explbersdrs don't count anyway. 00:38:22 in the middle of a streak! 00:38:27 it does for !streak 00:38:45 but yea, I think others also reminded me that cao doesn't count that way 00:38:46 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:40:22 !hs * explbr=frogs 00:40:22 16. Brannock the Cleaver (L10 FrFi of Okawaru), succumbed to Sonja's curare-tipped needle on Lair:1 on 2016-12-29 00:33:23, with 5919 points after 12826 turns and 0:35:37. 00:40:32 hurrah 00:40:39 rest in za 00:40:51 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:40:55 Pleasingfungus, let me know if you'd like different 'explanation text' 00:40:56 !lm * explbr=frogs max=xl 00:40:57 88. [2016-12-29 03:35:52] jink69 the Cleaver (L14 FrBe of Trog) killed Josephine on turn 23448. (Lair:5) 00:41:02 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:41:08 unless you think "Frogs! (Slow species that can Hop!)" is sufficient 00:41:16 ribbit 00:41:27 johnstein: it'd be nice if Hop wasn't capitalized 00:41:36 oK 00:41:55 -!- glaas has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 00:43:02 looks like console was already ok. I'll reboot webtiles sometime later tonight when it's less busy 00:44:10 -!- saltylicorice has quit [] 00:45:40 Brannock: i think i agree with gamma that the basic concept doesn't sound that fun to fight, though can't say for sure without fighting. the basic concept could be usable, maybe, but i'm not excited by your implementation as described 00:45:58 the goal of more mechanical theme/synergy in swamp is cool 00:46:03 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:12 also 00:46:13 one note 00:46:22 you shouldn't make any changes to the description 00:46:23 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:46:29 the alligator description 00:46:34 why not? 00:47:24 it'll end up looking like: "It thrashes around victims that it bites. Attacks: hits to deal up to 30 and thrash around..." 00:47:31 a bit redundant 00:47:39 ah, I forgot about these changes 00:47:44 :) 00:47:47 minor! 00:47:57 I was like "I should let the player know in some way that it thrashes" 00:48:26 what if thrash prioritized nearby enemies? would that make it too much like guardian serpent? 00:48:38 ? 00:48:41 like, moving toward them? 00:48:43 yeah 00:48:47 it's only moving you like 1 tile. 00:48:50 no, guardian serpents move monsters to you 00:48:52 i don't understand 00:48:54 and usually while you escape :v 00:49:05 CanOfWorms: surely it'd be more like drac shifter :P 00:49:06 except 00:49:07 given Swamp tends to send swarms instead of an 1-by-1 trickle 00:49:08 only 1 tile 00:49:18 alligators aren't band monsters 00:49:25 sure, but they show up with other monsters 00:49:32 pf: don't they come... in pairs... 00:49:35 not especially 00:49:38 CanOfWorms: iirc 'sometimes' 00:49:42 aw 00:49:45 alligator bands are weird 00:49:45 hang on 00:50:03 alligators could be pretty brutal if they showed up with a hydra and thrashed you into melee range 00:50:18 that was the original conception, yeah 00:50:24 but I doubt I succeeded at this 00:50:43 I wanted to make swamp water relevant but apparently it just ended up being optimal to move out of water 00:51:11 though there are situations where you can't move out of water without killing enemies first -- not sure if these situations are common enough to be worthwhile 00:52:31 !lg * br=shoals status~~sleep 00:52:35 1. ASSMAN the Fetichist (L15 DsAs of Ru), succumbed to Aizul's bolt of poison on Shoals:1 on 2015-03-17 08:58:44, with 95188 points after 22605 turns and 1:16:48. 00:52:41 good ol ASSMAN 00:52:47 good title 00:52:49 i wonder if it'd be more interesting with constrict 00:52:59 that was actually something I considered 00:53:02 but I thought it'd overload it 00:53:08 pull them into water; constrict 00:53:11 like real gators 00:53:18 I wanted to be conservative with the AF 00:53:42 could be two afs.... idk 00:53:58 thrash; if in_water, constrict? 00:54:00 ehh 00:54:08 why restrict it to being in water 00:54:24 more true to irl alligator I guess 00:54:48 native terrain is water, they either kill prey via thrashing or drowning it 00:55:26 crocodiles too, but acceptable power progression 00:55:37 bring back baby alligators =p 00:55:49 no more baby murder 00:55:49 this isn't tome! 00:55:53 hah 00:55:58 i should try to play that again 00:56:04 to remind myself why i never finished it 00:56:19 also, i always wondered why gators were stronger than crocs in crawl 00:57:05 the baby murder zone was removed from tome a while ago 00:57:23 I'm pretty sure crocs are meaner irl 00:57:28 they do take on bigger prey 00:57:30 minmay: someone linked me to the old thread where people were defending it 00:57:34 it still has all the old gross shit though 00:57:38 yes, that's why i wondered why it was opposite in crawl 00:57:38 so it was fresh in my mind 00:57:40 s/old/other 00:57:51 ProzacElf, it's because of the australian lobby 00:57:57 ahhhh 00:57:58 of course 00:58:20 heh, i'm going to go out on a limb and say there's a reason why alligator farms exist and crocodile farms don't though 00:59:06 people say dcss takes place in australia but i am pretty sure its actually florida 00:59:36 i'm pretty sure i ran into joseph the last time i was in florida 00:59:53 or at any rate i saw a drunk guy with a stupid hat and a staff 01:00:01 and what may or may not have been a sling 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:09 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:12 I think the croc/alligator split is also partially because alligators vastly prefer swampy areas, and, well, Swamp 01:00:27 while crocs coexist alongside large hooved mammals in Lair 01:00:37 but this is a retroactive explanation 01:00:47 I have no clue what whoever was thinking when they added these two monsters 01:00:58 I mean you could just remove crocodiles since they pretty much do nothing 01:01:03 alligators were added long after crocodiles 01:01:31 yeah, crocodiles are just about the most boring lair monster anymore 01:01:41 i mean, yaks are boring but at least they come in packs 01:01:42 !lg * ikiller~~crocodile recent 01:01:44 1465. Dolanko the Basher (L9 GrFi of Makhleb), slain by a crocodile (kmap: david_lair_generic) on D:8 on 2016-12-29 00:09:32, with 2837 points after 6932 turns and 0:12:42. 01:01:49 !lg * ikiller~~yak recent 01:01:50 9090. atb the Fighter (L11 DrMo of Sif Muna), slain by a yak on D:10 on 2016-12-29 03:21:15, with 10784 points after 14588 turns and 0:42:24. 01:01:51 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:01:59 crocodile is pretty much a basilisk without petrify 01:02:04 @??basilisk 01:02:04 basilisk (06l) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 29-43 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 20 | cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(20) | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 192 | Sp: petrify [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: animal. 01:02:06 @??crocodile 01:02:06 crocodile (07t) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 5 | HP: 22-32 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 20 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(20), 12drown | XP: 106 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 01:02:16 wow 01:02:20 wow it really is 01:02:25 i didn't realize basilisks did that much damage 01:02:32 it's because petrify reduces damage taken 01:02:41 and basilisk almost never get to punch you without petrifying you first 01:02:48 yeah, i was about to say i guess it's becaue they only melee me when i'm stoned 01:02:48 also because 20 damage on an hd 6 monster is not actually very much 01:03:55 rename it to "baby crocodile" to justify it being weaker than an alligator 01:04:08 rename it to removed monster 01:04:16 gottem 01:04:38 hahaha 01:04:53 fwiw crocodiles live in swamps too 01:05:25 or they could be caimans 01:05:35 then ontoclasm could have fun redesigning the tile 01:05:38 hellmonk: the fanfic is almost done 01:05:46 cool, can't wait to see it 01:06:54 caimans aren't a bad idea, but I've done enough renamings for 2016 01:07:03 and most players aren't wildlife experts 01:07:31 caimans 01:08:43 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:09:00 neil caimans 01:09:06 they have an ability that doubles their melee damage 01:11:21 argh, it wasn't the assert causing the issue 01:12:56 neil caiman wrote an episode of doctor whom 01:14:11 I'll just have to figure out what specific lines I need for skill limiting since I can't just change the value of MAX_SKILL_LEVEL 01:15:50 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:20:42 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:21:33 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 01:21:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:25:34 -!- Pleasingfungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.1.0/20161208153507]] 01:28:38 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:32:32 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:33:01 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:35:33 !kw frogs 01:35:33 No keyword 'frogs' 01:35:43 !lg * file~~frog 01:35:44 20. fooot the Slasher (L6 FrFi of Gozag), mangled by an ogre (a +0 giant spiked club) on D:4 on 2016-12-29 06:16:28, with 301 points after 2638 turns and 0:06:02. 01:35:47 !kw fr 01:35:48 No keyword 'fr' 01:35:57 !kw fr crace=frog 01:35:58 Defined keyword: fr => crace=frog 01:36:12 !kw ogre 01:36:12 Built-in: ogre => char=ogre 01:36:18 heh 01:36:22 !kw felid 01:36:22 Built-in: felid => race=felid 01:36:32 !kw frog race=frog 01:36:33 Defined keyword: frog => race=frog 01:36:38 !lg * frog won 01:36:39 No games for * (frog won). 01:36:43 !hs * frog 01:36:44 19. Brannock the Cleaver (L10 FrFi of Okawaru), succumbed to Sonja's curare-tipped needle on Lair:1 on 2016-12-29 00:33:23, with 5919 points after 12826 turns and 0:35:37. 01:36:49 wow, n00b 01:37:10 I excluded her then she woke up :( 01:37:13 dang 01:37:17 no hex wands? 01:37:22 I had slowing 01:37:34 !tell PleasingFungus fyi frogs are already in sequell can query with fr or frog keywords 01:37:35 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 01:38:05 !lg . !gfspeed cikiller=sonja 01:38:06 No games for gammafunk (!gfspeed cikiller=sonja). 01:38:12 hmm 01:38:20 !lg . cikiller=sonja 01:38:21 1. gammafunk the Thaumaturge (L9 DEIE of Sif Muna), succumbed to Sonja's curare-tipped needle on D:12 on 2013-11-22 08:56:32, with 2911 points after 5002 turns and 0:42:02. 01:38:24 amazing 01:38:41 only ever once when I was speedrunning 01:38:52 surprised tbh, since she can have ...hrm 01:38:59 !lm . banished 01:39:01 86. [2016-11-20 06:38:01] gammafunk the Sneak (L2 OgAs) was cast into the Abyss! (goblin) (D:1) 01:39:13 what field is that? 01:39:14 she can banish you the turn she enters LOS if she's lucky 01:39:22 !lm . banished milestone~~sonja 01:39:23 No milestones for gammafunk (banished milestone~~sonja). 01:39:29 ah, guess that's never happened 01:39:42 !lm . banished milestone~~sonja 01:39:43 1. [2016-08-27 20:55:23] Doesnt the Fighter (L10 DrCK of Xom) was cast into the Abyss! (Sonja) (D:10) 01:39:49 guess so 01:41:27 xnavy: sorry multitasking at work.. frogs seem ok so far 01:41:28 xnavy: would be nice to be able to hop more often, otherwise they are kinda bland 01:41:57 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:44:20 !lm gammafunk banished s=noun 01:44:20 86 milestones for gammafunk (banished): 7x a deep elf sorcerer, 7x the severe capriciousness of Xom, 5x Louise, 5x a Zot trap, 4x a distortion unwield, 4x an ogre mage, 4x the power of Zot, 3x the capriciousness of Xom, 3x ogre mage, 3x Xom, 3x drawing a card, 3x an ancient lich, 3x is cast into the Abyss!, 2x hell knight, 2x vault guard, 2x a wizard, 2x merfolk impaler, 2x a deep elf demonologist... 01:44:30 !lm . banished s=noun 01:44:31 67 milestones for amalloy (banished): 13x a deep elf demonologist, 12x a deep elf sorcerer, 7x was cast into the Abyss!, 6x an ogre mage, 3x ogre mage, 3x a Zot trap, 2x vault warden, 2x the Enchantress, 2x spriggan defender, 2x hell knight, 2x an ancient lich, 2x Louise, 2x deep elf sorcerer, eveningstar of distortion, a distortion unwield, naga, Piginabag's ghost, Wiglaf, a lich, miscasting Summ... 01:45:03 ah, it is noun 01:45:07 interesting that our numbers for demonologists differ so much 01:45:13 hrm, those 7x was cast.. ones are weird 01:45:19 !lm . banished s=noun 01:45:20 86 milestones for gammafunk (banished): 7x a deep elf sorcerer, 7x the severe capriciousness of Xom, 5x Louise, 5x a Zot trap, 4x a distortion unwield, 4x an ogre mage, 4x the power of Zot, 3x the capriciousness of Xom, 3x ogre mage, 3x Xom, 3x drawing a card, 3x an ancient lich, 3x is cast into the Abyss!, 2x hell knight, 2x vault guard, 2x a wizard, 2x merfolk impaler, 2x a deep elf demonologist... 01:45:46 !lm . banished s=noun o=-N 01:45:47 86 milestones for gammafunk (banished): necromancer, orc knight, orc warrior, greater naga, halberd of distortion, wizard, vampire knight, merfolk, miscasting Summon Ice Beast, a lich, purple draconian shifter, was cast into the Abyss!, goblin, a card of wild magic, Erolcha, ettin, gnoll, chaos spawn, 2x orc wizard, 2x hell knight, 2x a deep elf demonologist, 2x merfolk impaler, 2x a wizard, 2x va... 01:45:57 ooh, ice beast miscast 01:45:58 v. nice 01:46:06 !lm gammafunk banished noun~~cast s=noun,cv 01:46:07 5 milestones for gammafunk (banished noun~~cast): 3x is cast into the Abyss! (3x 0.16-a), miscasting Summon Ice Beast (0.13), was cast into the Abyss! (0.18-a) 01:46:21 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:46:31 !lm . banished noun~~cast s=noun,cv 01:46:32 8 milestones for amalloy (banished noun~~cast): 7x was cast into the Abyss! (3x 0.19-a, 2x 0.17-a, 2x 0.16), miscasting Summon Hydra (0.17-a) 01:46:37 -!- Naeroon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:46:43 i wonder what gives that message 01:46:59 !lm . banished noun~~cast_into_the_abyss 01:47:00 4. [2016-03-27 03:55:54] gammafunk the Shatterer (L16 OgAK of Lugonu) was cast into the Abyss! (Swamp:1) 01:47:05 ah 01:47:07 lucy probably 01:47:18 self-banish? 01:47:23 !lm . banished noun~~cast_into_the_abyss s=god 01:47:24 4 milestones for gammafunk (banished noun~~cast_into_the_abyss): 4x Lugonu 01:47:26 indeed 01:48:06 noun should be improved, probably 01:51:38 -!- xnavy__ is now known as xnavy 01:54:31 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:08:07 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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ZZZzzz…] 11:17:59 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:05 !tell brannock i figure out how to solve ALL of frogs' problems. 11:18:06 Pleasingfungus: OK, I'll let brannock know. 11:25:25 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:27:34 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:59:27 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:09 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:44 -!- LordSloth has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:29 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:03:07 -!- adelrune has quit [Client Quit] 12:06:07 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-386-g2d247ea (34) 12:12:38 -!- chan20 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:15:50 -!- yuastnav has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19:02 don't just tease brannock with lies like that 12:19:29 it's a brilliant fix, though. flawless 12:19:37 i'm excited, what is it? 12:19:43 does it break fundamental laws of crawl as we know it? 12:19:51 okay so 12:20:19 right now we have an amphibious, jumping race, called "frogs" or possibly 'anurians' 12:20:21 but 12:20:23 what if 12:20:33 we called them 'vrekekex' instead? 12:20:45 it's greek for 'ribbit'. 12:21:42 lol 12:21:55 what's the plural form? 12:22:14 uh 12:23:13 they won't listen when I tell them how those fancy names are unintuitive. they don't heed the words of the basajaun 12:23:42 fr: rename all species to all-caps 4-letter or fewer words 12:23:45 basajaun? what are those? never heard of em. 12:23:54 -!- CacoS has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:24:38 CAT DOG SNEK ELF MAN DRAK HOP ORC OGAR 12:24:57 likewise with classes 12:26:06 Brannock: as far as i can tell, to be true to greek, the plural would also be 'vrekekex' 12:26:51 why HOP instead of FROG? 12:26:57 FIRE ICE ERF SICK PAL HIT MISS SKEL WAND ZAP 12:27:09 ideas for class names 12:27:17 I guess frog but go for flavor as well 12:27:18 someone should make a crawl demake 12:27:24 i like SICK 12:27:34 excited to play as DOG SICK 12:27:51 what is transmuter 12:28:00 ODD 12:28:39 FISH ODD 12:28:57 hrm, I guess 'jumping fish' is not going to go anywhere 12:28:58 be is of course MAD 12:29:02 yes 12:29:19 gl is NET 12:29:32 FISH NET 12:29:56 that's better than MISS, I guess 12:35:11 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:35:15 -!- ahahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:35:18 !hs * frog 12:35:20 51. fooot the Champion of Chaos (L21 FrFi of Makhleb), blasted by a deep elf annihilator (crystal spear) (kmap: minmay_elf_hall_not_hex) on Elf:3 on 2016-12-29 14:37:56, with 302229 points after 45280 turns and 2:05:35. 12:38:02 ??frogs 12:38:03 frogs[1/2]: Possible new species, see https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e6dfa7886a9f and the frogs branch 12:41:08 clearly frogs are underpowered 12:41:21 !lm * frog max=xl 12:41:21 278. [2016-12-29 14:33:14] fooot the Champion of Chaos (L21 FrFi of Makhleb) left the Vaults on turn 43946. (Vaults:1) 12:44:00 i think you'd want class before race in this exciting new world 12:45:00 yeah, i was getting that feeling 12:45:05 ARMR ANT 12:46:34 what do you call mummies and ghouls? all i can think of is DEAD for both, which doesn't even really fit the noun theme 12:46:58 BNDG 12:47:04