00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:08 you'd want to use vlong 00:01:22 %git :/Two 00:01:22 07regret-index02 * 0.20-a0-5-ge13d182: Seperate and revise hell effects 10(7 weeks ago, 3 files, 290+ 121-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e13d182dfca6 00:01:26 newp 00:01:32 %git :/ogre 00:01:32 07Brannock02 * 0.20-a0-284-g0034d1e: Buff ogre mage bands 10(34 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0034d1e37b75 00:01:42 !gitgrep 2 ogre 00:01:43 %git HEAD^{/ogre}^^{/ogre} 00:01:43 07Brannock02 * 0.20-a0-282-g4a29806: Buff two-headed ogres 10(34 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4a298068cf70 00:01:51 It's like 00:01:58 "Inherit the will of the basajauN" 00:02:11 %git :/inherit 00:02:11 07Rast202 {GitHub} * 0.20-a0-268-g90ebc63: Improve ogre spell school apts 10(9 days ago, 1 file, 8+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/90ebc63c97b3 00:02:16 damnit! 00:02:22 I just pulled it up, no? 00:02:26 "Buff two-headed ogres" 00:02:31 Oh you wanted the monsters 00:02:31 or are you talking about something else 00:02:34 Not the player race 00:02:35 My bad 00:02:41 yeah that one is 00:02:47 !gitgrep 2 Ogre 00:02:47 %git HEAD^{/Ogre}^^{/Ogre} 00:02:47 07MarvinPA02 * 0.20-a0-294-g8e39459: Increase Ogre spellcasting apts, decrease M&F apt 10(5 days ago, 4 files, 24+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8e39459e6cb5 00:03:04 why '2'? 00:03:19 !kw newogres vlong>=0.20-a0-294-g8e39459 00:03:19 Defined keyword: newogres => vlong>=0.20-a0-294-g8e39459 00:03:21 the first arg is how many matches back to look 00:03:31 if you want the last match, just use %git :/ 00:03:32 !gitgrep Ogre 00:03:32 %git HEAD^{/} 00:03:32 07Brannock02 * 0.20-a0-299-gec7c366: Remove Nemelex evocations reference (10847) 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ec7c366be5b3 00:03:55 Okay, _that_ I don't understand 00:03:56 although :/ does match branches, so you can use !gitgrep 1 if you want to make sure to match only trunk 00:04:08 No 'Ogre' in that entry as far as I can tell 00:04:13 no you did it wrong 00:04:16 !gitgrep 1 Ogre 00:04:16 %git HEAD^{/Ogre} 00:04:16 07gammafunk02 {MarvinPA} * 0.20-a0-295-gab3cf41: Remove High Elves 10(3 months ago, 29 files, 54+ 164-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab3cf41a3731 00:04:28 need the first arg, the number of matches back you want 00:04:34 oic 00:04:40 so 1 is the last commit matching "Ogre", 2 is the second to last etc 00:05:32 !lg * vlong>=0.20-a0-282-g4a29806 cikiller~~two-headed_ogre 00:05:33 32. BlueFish the Destroyer (L9 DrCj of Sif Muna), mangled by a two-headed ogre (a +2 dire flail of protection) on D:8 on 2016-12-15 04:52:03, with 3563 points after 10260 turns and 0:24:33. 00:06:16 -!- nefhilion has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:08:05 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:12:07 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:20:04 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:20:59 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:29:04 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:30:29 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:31:31 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-299-gec7c366 (34) 00:44:53 ^status 00:44:53 johnstein: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:44:53 32 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=92% (135GB) | RAM usage=34% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 00:44:52 up 762 days, 11:03, 5 users, load average: 0.83, 0.66, 0.58 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org 00:46:49 -!- valrus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:52:01 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:55:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:05:28 92% seems high 01:05:29 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:08:12 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 01:10:50 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:11:20 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:14:58 -!- Bammboo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:21:31 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:46:17 Death scarabs from infestation spell turn hostile 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10848 by papilio 01:57:13 -!- Blazinghbnd has joined ##crawl-dev 01:58:08 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Quit: help im not good computers] 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:05:21 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:06:02 -!- Blazinghbnd has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:07:28 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 02:09:23 -!- Blazinghbnd has joined ##crawl-dev 02:12:33 -!- Taraiph has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:16:33 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:31:56 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:32 -!- Brannock has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:07:29 -!- concrocotta has quit [Quit: Ciao] 03:13:58 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:21:25 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:25:17 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-299-gec7c366 (34) 03:31:18 -!- WangHW has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:34:05 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:45:08 -!- Blazinghbnd has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:49:06 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:49:55 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 03:52:58 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:53:40 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:53:51 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 04:00:08 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:33:17 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:40:19 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:45:54 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:47:27 -!- sneakyness has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:47:39 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:48:52 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:03:46 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:08:25 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 05:16:55 can vampiric brand not have this weird rN interaction 05:17:05 hp_boost = resist_adjust_damage(defender, BEAM_NEG, hp_boost); 05:18:20 so you get half the hp boost if the monster has rN+, 20% of the hp boost if it has rN++ 05:19:20 oh, or actually maybe you get 0 hp boost if it has any rN at all 05:22:06 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:26:20 nope, it definitely just reduces the healing a bunch 05:27:13 i guess this is for "consistency" with vampiric draining but it's still really weird because it doesn't affect the actual damage... 05:28:19 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:54:38 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:54:50 -!- tcsc has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:55:41 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:57:47 -!- tcsc has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:32 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:03:12 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:03:28 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:05:18 -!- bel1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:10:48 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:45:04 -!- BlackrayJackFros has quit [] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:07:50 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:08:10 -!- FunkyGnoll has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:08:11 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:14:47 -!- FIQ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:22:48 -!- bel1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:25:22 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:25:43 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 07:29:21 -!- bel1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:30:29 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:32:21 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 07:41:03 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:48:53 -!- sneakyness has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:49:31 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 07:55:38 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:59:16 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:15:15 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:14 -!- MadCoyote has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:35:27 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:38:13 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:39:26 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:39:27 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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You go to a level with him. (as usual) he dies out of your sight (no matter if you find out the body or not, he is dead ad does not recall). bug -> The level gets annotated about his presence. I think that beogh unique followers should not annotate a level. 09:31:45 the annotation actually appear on his death or related to that event 09:33:42 the other bug about followers i'm still checking, i would like to have a pointer to the gift code, cause i suspect that there are cases not covered when upgrading equipment 09:33:56 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:35:40 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:37:57 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:38:04 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 09:38:34 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:39:03 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:54 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:40:30 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:45:00 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-445-g3385dae: Make IJC play nice with shield wearers 10(in the future, 3 files, 21+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3385dae9279d 09:45:16 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:45:31 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:47:00 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:54:21 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:13 -!- snux has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:07:22 |amethyst: A bunch of my 0.19-a wins are doubled on CAO scoring, is that a known issue: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/gammafunk.html 10:14:05 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:14:43 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:11 cjr 10:20:22 zibudo messed something up back when we were updating versions 10:20:43 it's already fixed on CJR, but CAO scoring needs to be rebuilt to clean these up 10:21:04 and as alexjurkiewicz is moving the scoreboard to CDO no one saw a pressing need to do it 10:21:33 scoreboard to CDO? 10:21:42 https://scoreboard.crawl.develz.org/players/Brannock.html 10:21:48 yeah but it's not moving to CDO 10:21:49 ugh 10:21:56 why is the broken url still in my bookmarks 10:21:58 it's just a hostname off the domain 10:22:34 I have been deceived, then 10:23:02 I seem to recall the need for a CAO rebuild, now that you mention it 10:23:33 was just surprised when my win count was 70 on CAO, which due to how the games were duplicated matche the number of wins I have including experimentals 10:28:14 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:40:25 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:01 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:45:57 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:14 -!- Telnaior has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:06:02 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 11:06:37 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:07:46 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:12 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 11:17:42 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:25:17 -!- mroovka has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.0.2/20161129173726]] 11:26:59 .gfgk -log 11:27:00 132. Lasty, XL21 DsSu, T:76691: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Lasty/morgue-Lasty-20161214-021812.txt 11:28:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:28:50 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:29:45 Lasty: I finally watched that tv, and I'm amazed that you didn't kill that Su^Sif earlier. Afterwards I realized you had cast SGD and I was like "Oh no...Lasty and Summon Greater Demon is a dangerous combination..." 11:31:41 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:33:05 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-446-gdbb5916: Add one handed divine weapon options and fix generation when wielding shield 10(in the future, 10 files, 91+ 29-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dbb591640384 11:44:27 Ah, I'm so happy with this patch 11:44:38 I think it solves the last puzzle I had with IJC with the current version 11:45:01 the "Oh, I have a very powerful unrand, now I don't really feel like walking into weapons" problem :) 11:51:45 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 11:57:09 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:21 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:03:46 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:05:59 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:06:17 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:12:14 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:22:57 -!- xnavy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:24:39 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:24:45 -!- saty has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:26:18 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-299-gec7c366 (34) 12:30:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:36:17 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:56:03 -!- Thorbinator has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:56:37 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:39 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:01:28 -!- elan_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:02:30 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:04:21 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:05:08 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:11 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:09:42 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:11:18 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:13:36 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:49 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:19:27 -!- rj54x has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:29:34 -!- chan20 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:29:57 -!- bel1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:32:49 -!- purge has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:47:34 -!- hyperbolic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:51:27 -!- hyperbolic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:26 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:54:53 -!- bel1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06:32 -!- harambe has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:10:07 -!- Bammboo has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 14:12:12 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:18:46 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Client Quit] 14:19:16 -!- removeelyvilon has joined ##crawl-dev 14:23:07 which one a yall came up with the dance god usk? 14:28:08 looks like Corin Buchanan-Howland's handywork 14:28:28 who can say, really? 14:28:45 It's possible that I single-handedly invented and coded all of dcss's gods 14:28:48 no one can be sure 14:28:55 nobody, but the point is moot... I have led you all astray. 14:29:44 the change of ogre M&F has set off a chain of events that will destroy all of crawl. the masses are in Robespierre-levels of crazy! 14:29:50 And I am the one to blame. 14:32:52 It made me realize how hard your job must be. How fragile the whole thing is. How everything hinges on even the smallest details. But that insight came too late 14:34:36 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:49:52 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 14:52:31 wow, my commit message 14:52:34 it really went viral 14:52:47 %git :/High Elv 14:52:47 07gammafunk02 {MarvinPA} * 0.20-a0-295-gab3cf41: Remove High Elves 10(3 months ago, 29 files, 54+ 164-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab3cf41a3731 14:53:07 you know it's like that with all the great artists 14:53:18 you can't really tell when you're writing a masterpiece 14:54:28 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:56:16 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:58:33 gammafunk: You are internet famous now. Rack in that twitch dollars 14:58:43 big money baby...big money 14:58:51 !lg . 14:58:52 3894. gammafunk the Slayer (L27 OgAs of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-12-15 00:53:13, with 1381276 points after 107350 turns and 9:34:08. 14:59:09 is that the new ogre? 14:59:11 I won old ogres and helped make them unwinnable! 14:59:16 classic dev trolling 14:59:19 yeah that's 0.19 14:59:31 I will be doing a new ogre soon enough, but probably not for a couple chars 14:59:38 may need to step up my twitch streaming a bit 14:59:44 !lm . 14:59:51 21855. [2016-12-15 03:40:54] gammafunk the Destroyer (L13 GrIE of Hepliaklqana) reached level 6 of the Lair of Beasts on turn 24524. (Lair:6) 14:59:55 this god I'm worshiping makes the game unwinnable, I'm told 14:59:58 so who knows if I'll get there 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:18 is ba experimental still up 15:00:29 no only council god 15:00:31 i thought hep was op and bullshit, maybe. 15:00:33 deng 15:00:36 i need to get more memes 15:00:38 RIP Wudzu 15:00:50 <|amethyst> hm.... "%s is ready to forgive your sins." sounds misleading 15:00:58 <|amethyst> at least it should be "almost ready" 15:01:00 what is with all this hair removal 15:01:04 what are we, barbers???? 15:01:05 I went battlemage since twitch voted for that 15:01:16 it makes no sense! why does twitch chat never make sense 15:01:26 it's twitch chat 15:01:41 you're right, these are the people who do serial requests of bagpipe music 15:01:45 what was I thinking 15:02:07 lol 15:02:10 have you ever seen twitch plays pokemon? my hope for humanity died that day 15:02:12 you could say I'm a... 15:02:14 serial kilter 15:02:19 lol 15:02:21 no. 15:02:25 also why aren't you streaming 15:02:36 I just did last night, that ogre 15:02:47 I'm not a 24/7 streaming machine, like amalloy 15:02:54 maybe you should be 15:03:05 transcend the mortal coil 15:03:25 amalloy is now more machine than man... 15:04:10 I have a dank propositon for crawl 15:04:41 what if young poisoner's handbook contained spider form? 15:05:05 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:25 gammafunk: see if you can get someone to buy you one of those 24/7 wearable recording devices for the holidays 15:05:30 removeelyvilon: well, what if it did? 15:05:40 gammafunk i wanted a real answer 15:06:03 amalloy: your company makes special eyewear for that, I recall 15:06:15 time to send the dev team some freebies 15:06:37 PleasingFungus with a bit of UC and dodge training it doesn't fare too bad against poison resistant/immune enemies which there are a lot of even in the early game. Maybe that's enough to make that dreadful "remove poison" meme die finally 15:06:39 tbh google glass is too hip for you. i was envisioning something backpack-sized with a shoulder-mounted camcorder 15:07:00 that would absolutely not be enough to kill the 'remove poison' meme. 15:07:00 late-90s bleeding-edge stuff 15:07:13 but it would be dank regardless don't you think? 15:07:21 jokes on you, that's actually great exercise, walking around with that weight 15:07:22 i guess the question is, do we want venom mages to lean toward uc? 15:07:44 removeelyvilon: yph is already quite dank with meph cloud, the dankest of all spells 15:08:16 ture enough. memetic cloud 15:08:21 true* 15:09:34 phase shift is the dankest of all spells, its like when you feel like your face is a foot in front of where it really is 15:09:47 unconvinced that having access to spiderform will make venom mages want to go towards uc if they otherwise weren't inclined to 15:10:29 also unconvinced that spider form in YPH is a good idea 15:10:34 I'm unconvinced of many things 15:10:46 take a leap of faith 15:11:08 I guess you are inclined as vm to train a weapon quickly, might as well be UC 15:11:20 TrVM... 15:12:31 is that what synergy looks like? 15:13:27 and now you can even worship TSO! 15:14:36 Why would venom mages train UC? 15:14:51 If you're going to train a little of some weapon, UC is definitely the wrong choice 15:15:10 twelwe: I made Usk 15:15:26 Lasty_: the context is "what if we gave spider form to vm" 15:15:30 oh ah 15:15:37 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:15:42 PleasingFungus: what VM really needs is an L2 spell 15:15:53 does spider form get short blade tier stab bonuses? 15:15:54 And maybe a version of Sting that doesn't have Conj 15:16:04 yes it is "optimal" choice. You might never find a weapon, but you can always find your hands. unless you are really drunk. also spider form which is in the poison school. the plan is failproof 15:16:28 we should just make a new spider magic school and move the spell there 15:16:40 Lasty_, "Spread Poison" maybe? If target is poisoned then poison targets around it 15:17:06 +CanOfWorms no I think only felid claws can UC stab unless you have boots of the assassin 15:17:08 well, for L2 I think the idea is that it'd have pretty broad applicability 15:17:14 ??young poisoner's handbook 15:17:14 that spell would be very situational 15:17:14 young poisoner's handbook[1/1]: Sting, Mephitic Cloud, Olgreb's Toxic Radiance, Alistair's Intoxication, Venom Bolt 15:17:18 Brannock: The other day I was thinking it might be good to replace Sting w/ a smite-targeted spell that adds a small amount of poison. 15:17:20 plus OTR is at level 3 15:17:32 yeah otr would kind of cover it 15:17:33 OTR is very good, by the way 15:17:40 isn't otr level 4 15:17:44 I dunno? 15:17:47 ??otr 15:17:48 OTR is L4, unless that recently changes 15:17:48 olgreb's toxic radiance[1/2]: L4 Poison. Poisons creatures in LOS (including you prior to 0.19) multiple times over several turns. Ignores the caster's rPois, unless fully immune to poison. Casting it multiple times in a row will make it stronger! Before 0.19, damage decreased with distance from the caster. 15:17:50 *changed 15:17:57 and it's a very good L4 15:18:21 It got a lot better when distance stopped mattering 15:18:27 My last VM used it a lot 15:18:36 yeah mine used it as well 15:19:19 Brannock: it's hard to know what a good L2 poison spell would do. If L1 can poison the target, L2 will have a hard time improving on it unless it poisons different/more targets or does something other than poisoning. 15:19:38 gammafunk: i think it's fine for a L2 spell to be very situational, maybe even good 15:19:58 I suppose one way to do it would be to make the L1 essentially "poison freeze" and L2 "poison smite" or a weak poisonball or something like that 15:19:59 no I mean, it's fine for any level of spell to be that, tbh (maybe not L1 I guess) 15:20:05 but I think in terms of whatever problem with VM 15:20:09 that people are trying to solve 15:20:12 yeah, yeah, fair 15:20:24 ??young poisoner's handbook 15:20:24 young poisoner's handbook[1/1]: Sting, Mephitic Cloud, Olgreb's Toxic Radiance, Alistair's Intoxication, Venom Bolt 15:20:42 lots of multi-school spells 15:20:45 -!- nino_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:00 roid rage: poisons yourself and berserk 15:22:54 -!- PleasingFungus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:58 could make meme dreams come true and add a l2 poison/hex (pure poison?) 'corrosion' hex 15:23:03 !lg * t vm / xl>=10 15:23:04 249/1375 games for * (t vm): N=249/1375 (18.11%) 15:23:08 !lg * t !vm / xl>=10 15:23:13 17484/84705 games for * (t !vm): N=17484/84705 (20.64%) 15:23:35 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:23:39 -!- PleasingFungus_ is now known as Pleasingfungus 15:23:52 !lg * t mage s=cls o=% / xl>=10 15:24:17 3054/18384 games for * (t mage): 392/1869x Earth Elementalist [20.97%], 535/2631x Fire Elementalist [20.33%], 228/1232x Air Elementalist [18.51%], 249/1375x Venom Mage [18.11%], 581/3416x Conjurer [17.01%], 314/1864x Ice Elementalist [16.85%], 172/1268x Summoner [13.56%], 350/2838x Wizard [12.33%], 233/1891x Necromancer [12.32%] 15:24:27 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:24:35 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:24:37 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:24:58 -!- master_j has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:25:05 so their early game performance seems fine to me, compared to other mages 15:25:12 so any new spells probably don't need to make VM better 15:25:20 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:25:29 we really need to buff IE 15:25:29 so it becomes a question of improving the design 15:25:35 and summoner 15:25:47 gammafunk, you're our summonings expert 15:25:54 what do you suggest???? 15:25:57 CanOfWorms: Sif Muna on T0 15:26:07 -!- saty has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:26:08 Su becomes a zealot 15:26:27 <|amethyst> More turret summons 15:26:36 |amethyst: Summon Cyberdemon 15:26:37 greater demon more intelligent 15:26:54 <|amethyst> removeelyvilon: more intelligent? 15:27:01 about not blasting you 15:27:04 <|amethyst> removeelyvilon: that's not because they're unintelligent 15:27:07 <|amethyst> quite the contrary 15:27:12 demons need to have fun, removeelyvilon 15:27:23 so do I 15:27:28 eh... 15:27:30 it's a conflict of interests 15:28:07 there's a post on reddit saying that speed brands are leaked in the weapon delay 15:28:19 and it looks like it's true? 15:28:27 oh, if you xv it? 15:28:29 yeah 15:28:32 <|amethyst> maybe if you didn't summon and temporarily enslave sentient beings... 15:28:50 summon celestial tree sloth... 15:28:55 the dream lives on 15:29:55 what we clearly need are more Australian animals 15:29:55 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: hm, how are you testing? 15:29:58 Summon Drop Bear 15:29:59 wizmode 15:30:00 &I 15:30:03 <+|amethyst> you don't need to enslave demons, they WANT to be summoned so they can move into our world. so they can wreak havoc. but most of them cannot plane shift on their own so that's where you come in 15:30:16 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: oh, it's only when you're holding the item 15:30:34 aha 15:30:40 <|amethyst> removeelyvilon: but first they have to kill you so that they're not bound to your will 15:30:46 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: I was testing on the ground 15:31:00 I do think Venom Mage is the weakest of the mages, but I don't think it's because "poison is bad". I think it's because they have a weak and unreliable L1 spell (Sting is dual school, can miss, and can hit but still fail to poison) and no L2 spell 15:31:01 good ol' pentagram should do the trick 15:31:03 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: looks like only mindelay too 15:32:48 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: hm, I'd guess that when it's in inventory you're using the original item instead of an item_info copy 15:33:19 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: but when it's on the floor you get an item_info because that's what's stored in the stash 15:34:00 venom form? http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiecexfairytail/images/6/67/GifthC3B6lle2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120502025153 15:34:11 -!- hyperbolic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:34:17 In terms of VM spell progression, I suppose what they need on L2 is something that's reliable. If they did have a smite-targeted, full-LOS spell that always inflicts non-zero poison, they'd gain a reliable damage-dealer that doesn't need two schools to function. I think that might be enough to boost them up. 15:34:46 Also, it could have a small chance to splash or chain to nearby monsters perhaps, based on spellpower. 15:34:47 It might be a little too one-dimensional, tho. 15:35:03 In that all it does it let VM poison things more/better 15:35:16 contagion? 15:35:49 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:37:50 <+Lasty_> better = more max stacks? 15:37:50 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:37:51 -!- hyperbolic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:39 No, I'm not proposing that we change the stack rules right now 15:39:17 -!- Lightli_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:39:30 I got nothing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:40:12 I should mention that I personally always found very good success with the OTR + Ignite Poison combo 15:40:23 i'm told that's currently OP 15:40:40 Lasty_: Throw Poions? 15:40:41 *Poison 15:40:46 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:40:55 it's probably the best overall way to handle the V:$ ambush at any rate 15:40:58 -!- Lightli_ is now known as Lightli 15:41:02 Pleasingfungus: sure, but then we need to rename Venom Bolt to Bolt of Venom and add Poison Storm 15:41:22 would it be unthinkable to add a high level miasma spell? 15:41:31 cloud of miasma 15:41:38 hey, iron bolt is enough precedent for venom bolt :P 15:41:39 !banish Brannock 15:41:40 Lasty_ casts a spell. Brannock is cast into Hell! 15:41:54 Pleasingfungus: what's iron bolt? 15:41:58 Brannock: what would the design be? 15:42:00 |amethyst: would it be simple enough to put a known check in _append_weapon_stats? 15:42:07 *the design goal 15:42:15 like, why would crawl be better with a high-level miasma spell? 15:42:19 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:34 Lasty_: iron shot, in ancient times. 15:42:36 something like 15:42:42 you could throw a can of monster energy drink that stuff is pretty toxic 15:42:43 (it was never actually a bolt, hence the current name) 15:42:50 ahh 15:42:59 !source describe.cc:847 15:42:59 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/describe.cc#L847 15:43:10 Iron Arrow, not to be confused with silver arrows . . . 15:43:11 ??boris[iron 15:43:11 boris[1/3]: A unique lich who has an awesome habit of staying undead. Spells: bolt of cold, invisibility, animate dead, iron shot, iood. 15:43:15 ??boris[2 15:43:15 boris[2/3]: IRON BOLT DRAIN CRYSTAL SPEAR LOL HI IM BORIS 15:43:21 weapon_min_delay(item, ) / 10, 15:43:37 haha 15:43:38 (note that boris has never had crystal spear or bolt of draining.) 15:43:51 ((imo that only makes the quote better)) 15:44:01 boris is a lich of many talents 15:44:02 people probably assume he has alich spells 15:44:04 Jeff should mention the 9 (?) d something ood 15:44:04 No, he clearly had DRAIN CRYSTAL SPEAR 15:44:09 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:44:16 removeelyvilon: i'm pretty sure that quote is from before iood existed. 15:44:24 which steals all the crystal spears from the player 15:44:31 including the artefact??? 15:45:41 someday i'm gonna bring back the artefact... maybe after ranged reform? 15:46:05 Pleasingfungus: ONLY the artefact 15:46:14 I guess Leda's Liquefaction performs a similar role as miasma, though without doing damage 15:46:30 Transmutations/Earth/Poison 15:46:37 And Metabolic Englaciation 15:46:37 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: yeah, probably that would work 15:46:42 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 15:49:25 gammafunk: so, whatcha think re: my CRD email? 15:49:44 Lasty_: I saw it, but haven't sat down to read it 15:49:53 will do and either respond or at least send you a tell 15:50:01 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: but... 15:50:05 woo 15:50:14 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: I want to understand why it's working the way it currently is 15:50:32 your hypothesis sounds right 15:51:50 well I guess it's not clear why the brand isn't being copied when the item is on the ground 15:52:40 <|amethyst> because get_item_info only sets the brand if item_type_known(item) 15:53:40 <|amethyst> though I'm not convinced that works correctly for artifacts that you've seen a monster use 15:53:46 <|amethyst> s/tif/tef/ 15:54:44 another... idea... forming in my head... advanced version of beastly appendage... turtle shell. dream sheep wool. stag beetle pincers. tentacles. ostrich legs. my head... I CANNOT CONTROL IT 15:55:09 <|amethyst> (and the relevant call to get_item_info is in update_item_at I believe) 15:55:14 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:55:44 what's the syntax for creating a monster with a weapon 15:56:21 proabbaly gnoll_halberd.exe 15:56:42 gnoll ; halberd 15:56:46 &mgoblin ; hand axe 15:56:48 and then . to add more gear 15:56:49 <|amethyst> &mgoblin ; any weapon randart ego:speed 15:57:48 crawl trivia: |amethyst's invocation can create a speed weapon 'of cheibriados's favour' or such 15:57:57 <|amethyst> but it does seem to work right (I was worried the delay would show up incorrectly before identifying the item, but it does seem to show up right 15:58:24 yeah 15:58:31 <|amethyst> but that's probably something to test to make sure your change, and particularly using item_type_known, doesn't break it 15:58:46 <|amethyst> item_type_known on weapons makes no sense to me, but it is what it is 15:59:26 is that what checks for brands? 15:59:28 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:59:41 <|amethyst> yes 15:59:56 <|amethyst> but it is *also* the thing that checks whether you know a particular type of potion 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:37 <|amethyst> but with an artefact, ISFLAG_KNOW_TYPE is supposed to be the artefact name 16:01:36 <|amethyst> and you need artefact_known_property(item, ARTP_BRAND) 16:01:43 <|amethyst> but it seems to work nonetheless? 16:02:14 -!- bgiannan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:35 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:03:54 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:04:05 yeah just using item_type_known breaks artefacts 16:04:30 <|amethyst> ah, good 16:04:39 <|amethyst> so I'm not crazy, just bad at testing things :) 16:04:48 <|amethyst> item_ident(item, ISFLAG_KNOW_TYPE) 16:04:48 <|amethyst> || is_artefact(item) 16:04:51 <|amethyst> && artefact_known_property(item, ARTP_BRAND) 16:05:00 should be a shorthand for that. 16:05:09 <|amethyst> yes 16:05:14 <|amethyst> that code already exists around describe.cc:246 16:05:23 !source describe.cc:246 16:05:23 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/describe.cc#L246 16:05:30 <|amethyst> so should be made into a function 16:06:08 <|amethyst> oh hey 16:06:15 <|amethyst> also in attack::apply_damage_brand 16:06:44 <|amethyst> (that one does use item_type_known in the non-artefact case instead of item_ident; I think either would be fine as long as you don't call it on things like potions) 16:06:57 <|amethyst> another copy inside do_curse_item 16:07:13 <|amethyst> for detecting whether it should identify holy wrath 16:07:23 <|amethyst> all spelled somewhat differently 16:07:26 nice 16:07:33 <|amethyst> but you should be able to pull some positive millimarvins out of this 16:09:20 <|amethyst> I would suggest refactoring the three existing uses first, then doing the _append_weapon_stats fix 16:09:40 <|amethyst> but I guess doing them in the other order would work too 16:10:02 <|amethyst> hm 16:10:08 We will meet again... 16:10:16 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:10:19 <|amethyst> I guess the other order would be easier for cherry picking into 0.19 16:10:36 <|amethyst> or we could cherry-pick both commits 16:14:01 alright, I'll poke at it later tonight 16:14:06 time to learn git properly... 16:14:16 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 16:14:44 Amid all the bullshit talk on tavern, there has been one really good interface idea: 16:15:50 Thread: "Show how much "damage" Flay is currently applying", by milski 16:16:33 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:16:48 This is my take on it: 1) indicate flayed off HP in health bar, and HP display (this e.g. like rotted HP) 16:16:50 <|amethyst> I don't know about showing it in the status line, and I definitely don't like showing it in the messages 16:16:57 <|amethyst> hm 16:17:02 2) xv-ing flayers shows how much this monster has flayed off you 16:17:20 worth noting that we don't really support multiple flayers 16:17:21 <|amethyst> what if you're rotten and flayed? 16:17:23 killing one flayer restores everythng 16:17:36 <|amethyst> I wouldn't show it in the same way, because rotting and flaying work differently 16:17:44 someone in the thread said that you can be multiply flayed 16:18:01 <|amethyst> but at the very least it should be in @ like poison amount 16:18:10 <|amethyst> and in the HP bar 16:18:26 |amethyst: yes, that would be a big help, and make the monster/interface much more clear 16:18:51 VeryAngryFelid (this is Sandman) suggests to also have a log line 16:19:06 <|amethyst> a log line? 16:19:11 <|amethyst> oh, message area 16:19:18 for ?: 16:19:22 <|amethyst> err 16:20:02 <|amethyst> ?: doesn't even show when you take real damage unless you're down to low HP, why would it show flay damage 16:20:36 <|amethyst> taking 50 real damage is more significant an event than taking 50 flay damage 16:21:22 yes, not my idea, I just wanted to relay it 16:21:29 but 1) and 2) would be good 16:23:36 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:23:49 -!- bgiannan1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:23:59 <|amethyst> (2) implies a buff to flaying, because of what PF pointed out 16:24:08 <|amethyst> currently we don't track who did the flaying 16:24:23 <|amethyst> and killing a single FG removes all flaying 16:24:48 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:24:48 <|amethyst> all flaying except for allies of the monster 16:24:49 <|amethyst> hm 16:24:50 <|amethyst> I wonder 16:26:05 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:26:05 -!- darkschneider has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:26:31 <|amethyst> oh, I see 16:26:32 -!- darkschneider has joined ##crawl-dev 16:26:35 <|amethyst> charming a FG also removes wounds 16:26:54 <|amethyst> I was worried it would leave you flayed with no way to remove it 16:27:58 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:28:51 yes, I guess (1) dominates (2): if we can see flayed damage in HUD, then that's certainly good enough for me 16:29:23 CanOfWorms: if you have any questions, just send us some pngs of your diffs 16:32:10 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:35:36 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:41:58 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:46:34 -!- gressup has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:46:56 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48:21 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:51:42 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:52:04 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:23 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:15 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:08:49 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:12:00 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:12:39 -!- axujen has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:12:55 -!- tsujin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:13:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-300-gcb9538e: Don't allow resting while on fire (UsaSatsui) 10(42 seconds ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb9538ead801 17:16:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-301-g264e157: Clarify a misleading penance message (|amethyst) 10(21 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/264e157b161f 17:16:46 there's something quintessentially crawl in that commit 17:17:04 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:17:48 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:50 the first one, i assume? 17:18:01 yep 17:18:02 !messages 17:18:02 No messages for SteelNeuron. 17:18:09 i confess, i enjoyed typing "you are on fire!" 17:18:17 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:29:51 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:30:22 I got lots of Pleasingfungus prose in my last game 17:30:25 "It is so." 17:30:43 i prefer the term 'prosody' 17:30:43 and something about Art Garfunkle definitely being a better name 17:30:52 I mean that ruined immersion right there 17:31:12 *Garfunkel 17:31:25 good thing someone in twitch chat suggested it and I didn't try to spell it myself 17:32:11 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:32:37 it would have saved me a LOT of time if i'd just implemented name customization to begin with, instead of silly things like 'choosing different abilities' or whatever. 17:33:19 heh 17:33:21 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:28 it'd be pretty funny to have a kind of april fool's hep 17:33:39 that like gave you total customization 17:33:46 memorize spells for your ancestor 17:33:48 equip gear 17:33:59 "Your ancestor needs food badly!" 17:34:27 it's two characters in one! 17:35:09 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:35:22 Power Crawl 2727 could be a great april fools if we put effort into it 17:35:47 implement twelwe's Hulk species, put all gods into maximum overdrive 17:35:53 i wasn't joking about saving time, btw. i really wanted to make people get attached to their ancestors, but it turns out the way to do that was just to give them names! 17:36:38 I made a joke during that stream that the only reason you implemented Hep was so that you could have ally naming 17:36:41 or something like that 17:36:53 blame amalloy for that :P 17:36:59 he pestered me into it! so that he could name all of his ancestors the same thing... 17:37:07 that sounds pretty amalloy 17:37:17 one of the default names, even! can you imagine? 17:37:24 i wonder how many people use the default names 17:37:29 the name I got by default was actually pretty cool 17:37:32 but I can't remember it 17:37:36 !lm . ancestor 17:37:37 2. [2016-12-15 02:13:43] gammafunk the Destroyer (L9 GrIE of Hepliaklqana) remembered their ancestor Art Garfunkel as a battlemage on turn 10386. (D:7) 17:37:41 !lm . ancestor -2 17:37:42 1/2. [2016-11-10 03:35:44] gammafunk the Stinger (L8 MuVM of Hepliaklqana) remembered their ancestor Woat voted Trump as a hexer on turn 10443. (D:6) 17:37:48 oh 17:37:51 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:38:04 I'd have to go back and see, but it was neat 17:38:05 probably there's some terrifying sequell query you could use to find out what ancestor names people use 17:38:15 !kw ancestor 17:38:16 Keyword: ancestor => verb=ancestor.class|ancestor.special 17:38:32 yeah a regexp_replace() 17:38:32 !source dat/database/monname.txt 17:38:33 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/monname.txt 17:38:47 starts on line 268, if you wanted to skim and see what looks familiar 17:39:20 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:39:37 Ankherfenedjef... now that's a name 17:40:02 Marduk-asir 17:40:09 reminded me of something from Dune 17:41:05 i really love the old mesopotamian names 17:41:08 both in and out of context 17:42:02 a city named Ur? this shit is epic 17:42:03 *that 17:42:10 hell ya 17:42:20 we even have a whole mesopotamian portal vault! 17:42:49 technically 17:43:21 needs a ziggurat 17:43:41 oh maybe that's what you meant 17:43:46 ya 17:47:49 !kw ancestor 17:47:50 Keyword: ancestor => verb=ancestor.class|ancestor.special 17:48:12 !lm gammafunk ancestor x=verb,noun 17:48:13 2. [2016-12-15 02:13:43] [verb=ancestor.class;noun=remembered their ancestor Art Garfunkel as a battlemage.] gammafunk the Destroyer (L9 GrIE of Hepliaklqana) remembered their ancestor Art Garfunkel as a battlemage on turn 10386. (D:7) 17:48:18 !lm gammafunk ancestor x=verb,noun -2 17:48:19 1/2. [2016-11-10 03:35:44] [verb=ancestor.class;noun=remembered their ancestor Woat voted Trump as a hexer.] gammafunk the Stinger (L8 MuVM of Hepliaklqana) remembered their ancestor Woat voted Trump as a hexer on turn 10443. (D:6) 17:48:36 !lm * verb~~ancestor s=verb 17:48:37 8160 milestones for * (verb~~ancestor): 7509x ancestor.class, 600x ancestor.special, 51x ancestor.deathswap 17:48:47 no milestone for name 17:48:48 :( 17:48:54 too spammable 17:49:14 ..ancestor.deathswap? 17:49:17 how can I run stat tracking on it then!! 17:49:23 !lm * ancestor.deathswap 17:49:23 No keyword 'ancestor.deathswap' 17:49:28 or perhaps, store it once per game 17:49:32 !lm * verb=ancestor.deathswap 17:50:13 that was back when you could customize the effect that triggered when an ancestor died or was Transferred 17:50:21 51. [2016-03-05 01:43:24] Lasty the Basher (L15 FoCj of Hepliaklqana) remembered their ancestor The cast of Rent's slow death on turn 23332. (Lair:8) 17:50:35 back before the death effect was removed and the transfer effect was changed to always be Drain 17:55:09 also, i feel like that milestone should be in some learndb entry, somewhere 17:55:15 the cast of rent's slow death... 17:57:48 wonder if that was a *cost typo or some reference i'm not getting 17:57:56 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:58:08 it's a reference to the famous musical, Rent. 17:58:20 ah 17:58:37 they die of AIDS. it's actually kind of tasteless, now that i think of it 17:58:46 lol 17:58:49 ya think 17:58:59 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:06 for some reason, i was thinking of Friends earlier 17:59:06 i think ancestor identity is the 4chan of dcss. But please don't remove it 17:59:22 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:59:28 i mean, i don't think lasty anticipated he'd create that exact phrase 17:59:37 the slow death part 17:59:47 sort of an unfortunate combination 18:00:00 he's always been a troublemaker 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:40 -!- master_j has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:00:48 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:01:04 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:01:07 -!- dpeg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:01:09 the accuracy of flame tounge is pretty high 18:01:16 tongue? 18:01:23 it's pretty rare to miss bats 18:06:14 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-301-g264e157 (34) 18:06:29 -!- Pleasingfungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:07:22 -!- bannakaffalatta has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:08:02 how does it compare to the accuracy of magic dart or freeze? 18:09:25 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-301-g264e157 (34) 18:10:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 18:14:11 -!- kdrnic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:14:25 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:17:27 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:19:39 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:33:31 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:33:50 -!- rwork has joined ##crawl-dev 18:34:00 I would like to register a complaint about minmay 18:34:29 first of all, he's a dick on the forums 18:34:40 secondly he's not letting me edit learndb 18:36:07 minmay isn't a developer 18:36:15 how is he preventing you from editing learndb 18:36:33 -!- loveman has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:36:36 gammafunk: !learn add lies we tend to take a conservative/incremental approach to major design changes 18:37:29 and then he deleted it brutally 18:37:39 for joke entries in learndb that aren't your personal entry, basically you got to deal with the community just deleting it (or modifying it) 18:37:50 that entire topic is joke entries 18:37:58 right 18:38:00 and its one of the better ones 18:38:12 so the community will just up and edit/remove entries 18:39:03 and by "the community" you mean... 18:39:11 people in the community 18:39:12 <|amethyst> other people in IRC 18:39:45 it helps if what you add isn't something directed at a specific person 18:39:53 stuff like that is much more likely to get deleted 18:40:02 either by that person or by a person who knows that person 18:40:03 ??lies 18:40:03 lies[1/27]: Eustachio says, "Summoning is fun!" 18:40:08 ??lies[5 18:40:08 lies[5/27]: it's fun! which is what crawl is supposed to be 18:40:19 hmm 18:40:29 sure, so Pacra might just delete that (or maybe Pacra added it himself) 18:40:33 anything like that can happen 18:40:42 turns out, minmay deleted that entry about lasty 18:40:45 just how it goes! 18:40:53 ??truth 18:40:53 I don't have a page labeled truth in my learndb. 18:40:58 OF COURSE 18:41:05 there is no truth. 18:41:15 crawl is a kingdom of lies 18:41:19 amen 18:41:23 fun fact: German turky = TRUTHahn 18:41:29 *turkey 18:43:25 I am absolutely fine with the Og changes, just one question: it was my idea to give them good Spc and really bad other magic aptitudes. The goal was to have a species where Spc carries a lot more casting than for other species. Is that a flawed concept, or could it work on some species? 18:44:04 dpeg_: MarvinPA was a fan, although I'm not sure what the intended playstyle of it is 18:44:13 more miscasts and spell casts, but enough MP to do so? 18:44:58 training spellcasting is a fairly poor way to increase success rate and spellpower 18:45:19 dpeg_: it might work better on a species interested in more than about 4 schools, which Og isn't 18:45:28 dpeg_: DE already are kinda like that if you don't hit conjurations hard 18:45:39 are there species with good magic apts but bad spc? 18:45:42 !apt spellcasting 18:45:42 Splcast: DE: 3!, Sp: 2, Og: 1, Dr[purple]: 1, HE: N/A, Fo: 0, Ko: 0, VS: 0, Te: -1, Op: -1, Fe: -1, Mu: -1, Vp: -1, Dr: -1, Ds: -1, Na: -1, Hu: -1, Gr: -1, Mf: -1, Gh: -2, Dg: -2, DD: -2, HO: -3, Ce: -3, Ha: -3, Mi: -4, Tr: -5* 18:45:46 yes 18:45:50 !apt dg 18:45:51 Dg: Fighting: -1, Short: -1, Long: -1, Axes: -1, Maces: -1, Polearms: -1, Staves: -1, Slings: -1, Bows: -1, Xbows: -1, Throw: -1, Armour: -1, Dodge: -1, Stealth: 0, Shields: -1, UC: -1, Splcast: -2, Conj: -1, Hexes: -1, Charms: -1, Summ: -1, Nec: -1, Tloc: -1, Tmut: -1, Fire: -1, Ice: -1, Air: -1, Earth: -1, Poison: -1, Inv: N/A, Evo: -1, Exp: -2*, HP: 1, MP: 2! 18:45:51 or are dabbling in a lot of different spell types (ie playing badly but having fun) 18:45:58 hm which ones 18:45:58 but ultimately spellcasting and spell schools do the same thing so a disparity between them tends to not matter much 18:46:00 <|amethyst> !cpt ce 18:46:04 <|amethyst> !apt ce 18:46:05 Ce: Fighting: 0, Short: -1, Long: -1, Axes: -1, Maces: -1, Polearms: -1, Staves: -1, Slings: 1, Bows: 3!, Xbows: 1, Throw: 1!, Armour: -3*, Dodge: -3*, Stealth: -4, Shields: -3*, UC: 0, Splcast: -3, Conj: -1, Hexes: -1, Charms: -1, Summ: -1, Nec: -1, Tloc: -1, Tmut: -1, Fire: -1, Ice: -1, Air: -1, Earth: -1, Poison: -2, Inv: 1, Evo: -1, Exp: -1, HP: 1, MP: 0 18:46:10 DD has -2 spellcasting and like +3 earth 18:46:15 ce of course... 18:46:27 keep in mind that "good magic apt" is not a high bar 18:46:29 <|amethyst> !apt ho 18:46:30 HO: Fighting: 2, Short: 0, Long: 1, Axes: 3!, Maces: 1, Polearms: 1, Staves: -1, Slings: -1, Bows: -1, Xbows: -1, Throw: -1, Armour: 1, Dodge: -2, Stealth: -1, Shields: 1, UC: 1!, Splcast: -3, Conj: 0, Hexes: 0, Charms: -1, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: -2, Tmut: -3, Fire: 1, Ice: -1, Air: -2, Earth: 0, Poison: -1, Inv: 3!, Evo: 0, Exp: 0, HP: 1, MP: 0 18:46:31 gammafunk,minmay,rwork: thank you! 18:46:58 DE casting is carried by int much more than it is carried by spellcasting skill 18:47:26 dpeg_: MarvinPA mentioned something about maybe making Mu into the the thing that had this 18:47:37 like give them +2 or at least +1 18:47:47 but that's already similar to what Og currently have 18:48:02 since we're going to be nerfing minmay by removing heal wounds 18:48:41 it seemed more than relevant to discuss the age-old topic of mummy buffs 18:48:43 nerfing minmay, Freudian :) 18:48:59 tbh the trog and sif nerfs were bigger nerfs to minmummies than removing wand of heal wounds will be 18:49:09 whold on, is minmay a mummy or an elf 18:49:16 a mummified elf 18:49:17 so both 18:49:38 why do you think he wants to lick elves so much? 18:49:46 remember the elven skin he once had... 18:50:04 thank you for this horrifying image, I will treasure it always 18:50:19 it's no real until someone makes a webcomic 18:50:23 *not 18:50:50 what about a 1,188 word fanfiction 18:51:16 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51:26 anyway I leave that as an ambiguous matter. I have dreamt of being an elf and I have dreamt of being a mummy 18:51:53 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:52:40 FR: half-X species 18:52:59 we have half-ling, isn't that enough 18:53:29 no, but half-halfing should be a thing 18:55:03 half-elf half-mummy 18:55:10 all stone cold killer 18:56:18 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:56:29 <|amethyst> Dungeon Crawl: Husbandry Simulator 18:57:29 there's gotta be octofelid fan art out there already 18:58:17 <|amethyst> amalloy: isn't that the github logo? 18:58:37 dang. do we sue them? 18:58:45 "octofelid" i hate everything 18:59:07 *snrk* 18:59:38 <|amethyst> 72 lives! 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:04 somehow that sounds a bit more like hydrafelid to me 19:01:04 ??stats[op 19:01:04 starting_stats[2/3]: Ce 10,7,4 | DD 11,8,8 | DE 5,12,10 | Dg 11,12,11 | Dr 10,8,6 | Ds 8,9,8 | Fe 4,9,11 | Fo 12,7,6 | Gh 11,3,4 | Gr 11,8,5 | Ha 8,7,9 | HE 7,11,10 | HO 10,8,6 | Hu 8,8,8 | Ko 6,6,11 | Mf 8,7,9 | Mi 12,5,5 | Mu 11,7,7 | Na 10,8,6 | Og 12,7,5 | Op 7,10,7 | Sp 4,9,11 | Te 8,8,9 | Tr 15,4,5 | Vp 7,10,9 | VS 10,8,9 19:01:19 why do op get stats so slowly? 19:01:59 ??stat gain[op 19:01:59 stat_gain[2/2]: Ce sd/4 | DD si/4 | DE i/4 | Dg choose2/3 | Dr sid/4 | Ds sid/4 | Fe id/5 | Fo si/4 | Gh s/5 | Gr si/4 | Ha d/5 | HE id/3 | HO s/5 | Hu sid/4 | Ko sd/5 | Mf sid/5 | Mi sd/4 | Mu sid/5 | Na sid/4 | Og s/3 | Op sid/5 | Sp id/5 | Te sid/4 | Tr s/3 | Vp id/5 | VS sd/4 19:02:16 no joke, this wouldn't be a horrible species: 19:02:19 "Hybrid" 19:02:33 /5 is slow, but Op are hardly the only race with /5 19:02:37 after you pick it, you pick two real species and then ou are a mixture of their aprts, size, restrictions, etc 19:03:34 just seems weird to be slower than Hu 19:04:14 they have to devote a lot of muscle mass and brainpower to controlling all those tentacles, of course. less left over for hitting stuff hard 19:07:19 alexjurkiewicz: stats aren't usually a thing Op have a problem with 19:07:27 since they wear a lot of rings 19:09:35 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:09:49 i bet if we had a logfile field "nrings", its average value would be higher for minotaurs than for octopodes 19:10:05 :) 19:10:44 ouch 19:11:03 !rg * recent op 19:11:05 !rg * recent op -log 19:11:09 55801/67264. petzl the Sneak (L1 OpWn), quit the game on D:1 (evilmike_arrival_fibonacci_small) on 2016-11-16 16:58:51, with 0 points after 0 turns and 0:00:01. 19:11:10 24833/67264. kawaks, XL2 OpAs, T:599: http://webzook.net/soup/morgue/trunk/kawaks/morgue-kawaks-20160813-062214.txt 19:11:20 !rg * recent mi -log 19:11:22 74836/88587. ForceOfMortality, XL2 MiBe, T:322: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/ForceOfMortality/morgue-ForceOfMortality-20161203-003510.txt 19:11:38 all 0s. survey inconclusive 19:11:48 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:54 !lg * op|mi s=race x=median(xl) 19:12:19 796520 games for * (op || mi): 448670x Minotaur [6], 347850x Octopode [4] 19:12:55 wow octopodes are inexplicably popular 19:13:04 is it because of that japanese painting? 19:13:06 -!- nino_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:13:22 they're weird and silly, and also you can play them 50% faster than you play a minotaur 19:15:16 people like playing distinctive races 19:15:21 !lg * s=crace 19:15:27 6625298 games for *: 802757x Demonspawn, 522366x Deep Elf, 448672x Minotaur, 347851x Octopode, 312778x Draconian, 305168x High Elf, 297414x Spriggan, 273313x Hill Orc, 269299x Mummy, 263926x Gargoyle, 226548x Merfolk, 210827x Troll, 209860x Human, 186337x Tengu, 183981x Vampire, 177713x Naga, 176454x Formicid, 175921x Kobold, 174017x Ogre, 169029x Vine Stalker, 126955x Demigod, 118371x Felid, 1154... 19:15:30 like mountain dwarf 19:15:42 -!- Orange_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:16:06 'random mutations', 'pure mage', 'pure fighter', 'eight rings', 'random mutations v2', everything else 19:18:08 !lg * thisyear s=crace 19:18:11 1533432 games for * (thisyear): 236618x Demonspawn, 121249x Minotaur, 98526x Octopode, 87173x Deep Elf, 84994x Gargoyle, 84925x Draconian, 67393x Vine Stalker, 67318x Formicid, 65070x High Elf, 63689x Hill Orc, 55417x Spriggan, 52907x Mummy, 47311x Troll, 45444x Human, 44990x Merfolk, 40042x Ogre, 36977x Naga, 33482x Tengu, 32390x Vampire, 28042x Felid, 26926x Kobold, 25685x Deep Dwarf, 24286x Cen... 19:19:00 alexjurkiewicz: tonight I have more time for discussing fun than yesterday, if you feel like it 19:19:35 sorry, i'm dressed up as steve irwin and practicing my "Crikey!" 19:21:00 -!- rwork has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:22:26 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:23:17 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:32:25 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 19:32:39 quick question 19:37:00 if you look at those numbers, HE Sp HO Mu Gr really aren't far from some of those more popular ones you listed 19:37:17 I don't think "everything else" is an appropriate description 19:37:57 I mean even Hu is more than 50% of the Op games 19:38:16 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 19:38:16 also you're looking historically 19:38:23 we don't use popularity as a metric ever, right? 19:38:24 which is weird for a lot of those species 19:38:52 I think popularity is just a consideration, one thing among many 19:39:39 !lg !bot !boring xl>=3 playable recentish s=crace% 19:39:50 1139071 games for bot (!boring xl>=3 playable recentish): 130909x Demonspawn (11.49%), 117647x Minotaur (10.33%), 80430x Octopode (7.06%), 77746x Gargoyle (6.83%), 70574x Deep Elf (6.20%), 62273x Draconian (5.47%), 58598x Formicid (5.14%), 56470x Vine Stalker (4.96%), 56192x Hill Orc (4.93%), 47594x Troll (4.18%), 39695x Mummy (3.48%), 37825x Merfolk (3.32%), 36290x Spriggan (3.19%), 34307x Ogre (... 19:40:40 !lg !bot !boring xl>=3 playable recentish title:"" s=crace% 19:40:50 130909x Demonspawn (11.49%), 117647x Minotaur (10.33%), 80430x Octopode (7.06%), 77746x Gargoyle (6.83%), 70574x Deep Elf (6.20%), 62273x Draconian (5.47%), 58598x Formicid (5.14%), 56470x Vine Stalker (4.96%), 56192x Hill Orc (4.93%), 47594x Troll (4.18%), 39695x Mummy (3.48%), 37825x Merfolk (3.32%), 36290x Spriggan (3.19%), 34307x Ogre (3.01%), 33422x Human (2.93%), 26424x Tengu (2.32%), 24802x... 19:42:05 it's a pretty reasonable spread 19:44:27 -!- oseph has quit [Quit: okbyebye] 19:50:01 Has cjr lost saved games recently? 19:50:09 I'm trying to load: 19:50:10 !lm makmorn trbe x=src,cv 19:50:11 407. [2016-09-07 21:40:29] [src=cjr;cv=0.19-a] Hector the Heavyweight Champion (L27 TrBe of Trog) reached level 5 of the Realm of Zot on turn 69899. (Zot:5) 19:50:27 But get prompted to start a new game 19:56:13 Grammus ^ 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:03 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 20:01:49 -!- bannakaffalatta has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 20:06:41 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:07:59 MakMorn: I believe it may have lost some trunk games during the setup of 0.19, but Zibudo may be able to help you restore 20:08:02 ??cjr 20:08:02 cjr[1/2]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks:8081/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks) and Grammus. SSH login info: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html. 20:08:10 MakMorn: you can contact him at that email 20:08:30 Thanks 20:09:11 are you accidentally trying to start a game on 0.19 instead of on trunk, perhaps? 20:09:57 no, I checked 20:15:51 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:27:16 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:31:22 -!- nino_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:33 -!- adelrune has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:37:44 -!- vev has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:48:35 Lightli: what was the question 20:50:06 the flay thread now has some more UI ideas 20:59:04 gammafunk: excellent metapost <3 20:59:08 ty 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:05 you're aiming to kick from the MD throne, eh? 21:00:08 *kick me 21:01:23 dpeg_: I think MPA actually is, since there's probably more actual outcry from Og modification 21:01:48 but I guess HE generated more memes 21:02:15 removing MD would be more equivalent to something like removing Mi or maybe DE 21:02:17 hint: my explanation dev blog message helped a lot to soothe players! 21:02:29 hint^2: DS is a killer target!! 21:02:40 DS? 21:02:50 Demonspawn 21:02:50 what about them? 21:02:57 oh, removal since they're popular? 21:03:00 yes 21:03:00 yeah that's a bold move 21:03:04 them or octopodes 21:03:17 but yeah, Mi would also be bold 21:03:50 it's always funny when/if players get so worked up about something 21:04:01 oh woops 21:04:14 quick question 21:04:57 if Og having a +3M&F apt was considered such a big problem that it needed to be nerfed 21:05:02 how come HO still has a +3 Axe apt 21:05:18 or Mf has a +4 polearms apt 21:05:44 Lightli: you assume more, or higher, consistency than is present. 21:06:18 mf getting a change there has certainly been brought up more than a few times 21:06:25 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:06:25 Lightli: the answer is that I'm comin' for them all. Soon all apts will be +0 21:06:33 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: MaxFrost] 21:06:36 for HO they have +1 in the other weapons, so it's not so extreme 21:06:38 Lasty: unduly player buff, cannot have that 21:06:46 dpeg_: true; -2 21:07:33 I do also find it a bit weird how Ogres were supposed to be the better race at using giant clubs/giant spiked clubs than trolls 21:07:59 but now they're tied in weapon apts in M&F and Tr has the Strength advantage 21:09:07 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:12 !apt og 21:09:12 Og: Fighting: 3!, Short: -3*, Long: -3*, Axes: -3*, Maces: -1, Polearms: 0, Staves: 0, Slings: -3, Bows: -3, Xbows: -3, Throw: 0, Armour: -2, Dodge: -1, Stealth: -2, Shields: -1, UC: -1, Splcast: 1, Conj: -1, Hexes: -1, Charms: -1, Summ: -1, Nec: -1, Tloc: -1, Tmut: -1, Fire: -1, Ice: -1, Air: -1, Earth: -1, Poison: -1, Inv: 1, Evo: -2, Exp: 0, HP: 3!, MP: 0 21:10:51 -!- wheals__ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:10:52 !seen PleasingFungus 21:10:52 I last saw Pleasingfungus at Thu Dec 15 23:06:28 2016 UTC (3h 4m 23s ago) quitting, saying 'Remote host closed the connection'. 21:12:39 gammafunk: where my feedback at? 21:12:54 you can't rush this stuff 21:13:07 gammafunk: true, since it will be solid gold 21:13:16 yeah I need to have a mystical dream to show me the way 21:13:44 alright let's fix up this min delay stuff 21:13:51 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:14:02 good time to quit, wheals 21:14:13 we're going to be seeing a lot of pngs of diffs 21:14:18 Lasty: Feedback about what? 21:14:29 hell, maybe an mp4 of commit 21:14:43 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:14:47 Lasty: yes, I'm hoping for feedback every day 21:14:50 Lightli: about you! 21:14:56 hi 21:14:57 Lasty made a post to crd about some future things for crawl 21:15:02 thanks 21:15:05 reading it now 21:15:05 which you should read, because basically 21:15:08 ??c-r-d 21:15:08 c-r-d[1/2]: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/crawl-ref-discuss 21:15:08 Lasty: never clear if people don't care or disagree, but not enough to bother writing 21:15:09 it's part of the 0.20 plan 21:15:21 ah, nice :) 21:16:19 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:30 dpeg_: gammafunk ust admitted we're doing this! 21:16:35 *just 21:17:12 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:17:30 tho my real goal is to get someone else to work on one of those projects :D 21:17:45 Lasty: well, first we have to settle on the design 21:17:56 nope, nope, nope, let's just do it 21:18:53 flay(xx) seems like a good way to handle it 21:19:59 Brannock: yes, that's okay too. I like extra colouring of HP number, and indicating missing HP on the bar. Then all the information is on the main screen. 21:23:41 Lasty: Your first point is a really huge proposal since it would be directly changing how the game was played, and would also strip Mu of the one thing it has over other races due to removing hunger. 21:24:33 Not against it, but it would definitely want a lot of discussion, good documentation, and an experimental before going into trunk 21:25:28 Lightli: Cool, I'm pushing it to trunk tomorrw 21:25:42 then I'll be playing trunk tomorrow 21:25:45 -!- WangHW has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:26:46 Lightli: I'm kidding of course. But surely you understand that I know that it's a big proposal, right? 21:26:54 yeah 21:26:56 my proposal is smaller! 21:27:04 <-- is a lot more realistic than Lasty :P 21:27:22 Mu's biggest advantage over other species is not lack of hunger 21:27:23 second point is overdue, third point is fine even if I'll miss killholing Elf:$ 21:27:38 ever since 0.6 Mu being foodless has barely been significant 21:27:52 its biggest advantage right now is not dying to adder/kobold poison 21:28:09 dpeg_'s proposal is a much more modest but still innovative proposal 21:28:09 Lasty: I'd reply because I have something to say about your points (for example, prioritising), but I wanted to hold out until someone else goes first... 21:28:54 minmay: so you say doom clock shouldn't worry about Mu? I guess that's a bit like the (hopefully pending) top-tier wand removal shouldn't care either. 21:29:30 Mu is eternal 21:29:34 that's, like, logic 21:29:38 only issue with those is that DD needs a replacement for their /hw 21:29:51 I think MPA is working on that 21:29:58 dpeg_: good plan, I think 21:29:59 probably some kind of innate ability 21:30:03 let's let gammafunk go first 21:30:07 gammafunk: you got a "I hate you" reply. If you start getting death threats, I'll concede the point to you: Master of the masses! 21:30:49 Fourth point is fine, although I would like to have super-massive levels still happen every once in a while 21:31:26 MPA can gather more brownie points with this removal, I am quite envious 21:32:05 Lasty: you realize my reply is just going to be "first" 21:32:12 gammafunk: I would have it no other way 21:32:46 gammafunk: I know your reply needs condiseration and careful thought, but could you go fast? 21:32:54 wait, is HE removal the new MD removal to the playerbase 21:33:07 or was it more like a "about time" reaction 21:33:17 dpeg_: I'm not posting anything tonight, probably by end of tomorrow, so feel free! 21:33:25 don't worry, we have time :) 21:33:34 I think MD was a way bigger deal than HE 21:33:45 but the crawl community is also a bit biger and has better communication 21:33:49 *bigger 21:34:03 Lightli: a few players are vocal, and angry. They only know about MD from hearsay, and now they're finally part of the unique Devteam Ruins My Game experience. Exciting! 21:34:10 HE was reasonably popular but not MD popular 21:34:18 wasn't MD like the most popular species at the time? 21:34:23 !lg * md x=cv 21:34:27 97275. [cv=0.9] DavionFuxa the Slayer (L27 MDSt of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2013-04-08 02:27:01, with 1502204 points after 166322 turns and 23:02:36. 21:34:38 definitely up there at any rate 21:34:41 If it helps, I still like the idea of removing minotaurs 21:34:42 !lg * cv<=0.9 s=crace% 21:34:42 gammafunk: so you say Gimli > Baladur? (I'm never sure with these Tolkien names.) 21:34:46 1385283 games for * (cv<=0.9): 191000x Deep Elf (13.79%), 154410x Demonspawn (11.15%), 95898x Mountain Dwarf (6.92%), 88832x Spriggan (6.41%), 81826x Mummy (5.91%), 81399x High Elf (5.88%), 61442x Merfolk (4.44%), 55365x Kobold (4.00%), 50881x Sludge Elf (3.67%), 50849x Human (3.67%), 48127x Minotaur (3.47%), 46357x Hill Orc (3.35%), 45362x Draconian (3.27%), 45085x Vampire (3.25%), 44439x Tengu (... 21:34:54 Lasty: I don't! 21:34:58 yeah, not sure when MD came into being 21:35:02 but they seem to be no. 3 overall 21:35:25 Lasty: And replace them with what? 21:35:25 interesting how DE have fallen 21:35:37 !lg * cv>0.9 s=crace% 21:35:46 5240407 games for * (cv>0.9): 648430x Demonspawn (12.37%), 400597x Minotaur (7.64%), 342407x Octopode (6.53%), 331381x Deep Elf (6.32%), 267450x Draconian (5.10%), 263936x Gargoyle (5.04%), 226967x Hill Orc (4.33%), 223775x High Elf (4.27%), 208587x Spriggan (3.98%), 187479x Mummy (3.58%), 176478x Formicid (3.37%), 172481x Troll (3.29%), 169052x Vine Stalker (3.23%), 165125x Merfolk (3.15%), 15902... 21:35:50 gammafunk: interesting lists 21:35:55 !lg * cv<=0.9 name!=sebi s=crace% 21:36:01 1286572 games for * (cv<=0.9 name!=sebi): 154409x Demonspawn (12.00%), 104797x Deep Elf (8.15%), 95897x Mountain Dwarf (7.45%), 88825x Spriggan (6.90%), 81826x Mummy (6.36%), 77686x High Elf (6.04%), 61442x Merfolk (4.78%), 55365x Kobold (4.30%), 50736x Human (3.94%), 48087x Minotaur (3.74%), 47415x Sludge Elf (3.69%), 46356x Hill Orc (3.60%), 45362x Draconian (3.53%), 45073x Vampire (3.50%), 3931... 21:36:08 heh 21:36:43 ??sebi 21:36:43 sebi[1/4]: Legendary start scummer who has dethroned Meow in terms of quitting|leaving. Personally responsible for over half of all games ended by leaving the dungeon. 21:36:52 Lightli: I'd replace Mi with a new race called Hill Orcs 21:37:09 just as they murdered MD, so now they murder Mi 21:37:15 the circle of life 21:37:27 and then he'd replace Deep Elves with a new race called Lava Orcs 21:37:30 I'd do anything to keep Mi and HO in the game. 21:37:47 pretty much every race will be some kind of orc 21:38:08 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: witty quit message goes here] 21:38:10 dpeg_: why Mi? 21:38:41 irrational sentiments, I don't wanna talk about it, but it's really serious to me 21:41:14 * dpeg_ touches his horns 21:41:23 -!- doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:44:42 okay gammafunk 21:44:46 how do I commit properly 21:45:11 git add -p is usually a good way 21:45:32 if you think it should be two commits 21:45:46 it's going to be a two part commit 21:45:50 add the stuff relevant to the first commit, hitting s to skip the stuff you'll put in the second 21:46:00 it prompts you for each hunk 21:46:25 after the parts you want are staged with add -p 21:47:41 git commit and make the commit message have the title-newline-body format with 72-char max for title, 75 max for body, and you can use lower limits 21:48:02 then repeat for second commit etc 21:48:07 ok 21:48:41 I thought it was 70 21:48:56 no, we use 72-max title, 75-max body 21:49:10 but people are welcome to use lower limits if they want 21:49:13 just not higher ones 21:49:26 so 70 is fine 21:50:47 I actually just use 72 for both since it's easier 21:51:59 !greatrace lasty hu 21:52:03 lasty is a greathuman! 21:52:12 hmm, checks out 21:52:21 Aw, shucks! 21:52:28 It's not every day I get called a great human. 21:52:44 not as impressive as my streak 21:52:47 !streak hypergammafunk 21:52:49 hypergammafunk has 70 consecutive wins (HEFi, OpTm, DsDK, DsNe, VpIE, DrMo, HaCj, OpDK, GrDK, GhEE, FeCK, OgAr, KoHu, HEIE, DgWn, SpEn, TrWr, MuGl, TeAE, DDHe, FoAK, VSWz, HuSu, MfSk, CeAM, NaVM, HOFE, DEAs, TrHu, KoEn, HEWr, SpEn, OpTm, VSFi, HaAr, DrNe, GhMo, HuSk, GrWn, DDGl, HOAs, FeCj, VpSu, OgAK, HaAM, TrCK, KoAr, SpWr, NaAE, MfWz, DgEE, FoVM, MuIE, TeFE, DrTm, KoMo, SpHu, CeAr, VSCj, DEEn, ... 21:52:59 !nick hypergammafunk 21:52:59 Mapping hypergammafunk => (won) gammafunk 21:53:02 :p 21:53:13 yeah, I won every single one 21:53:21 impressive 21:53:22 I mean nbd, but yeah I did that 21:54:45 You must be the world's greatest hero. And lover. 21:54:49 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:55:16 -!- Snarg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:55:54 hero...that does kind of make me sad how we removed high elves 21:56:23 what if we added Roasters or Rockomancers or something 21:56:24 High Elf Ronin? 21:56:27 exactly 21:57:43 Lava Orc VEnommage 21:58:04 a new Vegan class 21:59:14 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:59:38 gammafunk: I assume the vegan class can't worship Fedhas? 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:29 hopefully their addition would coincide with the removal of Fedhas 22:01:07 maybe we could add a Meatlord god from meatsprint in F's place 22:01:13 I was surprised at how much weaker fedhas felt w/ piety decay 22:04:36 I have a really hard time enjoying fedhas 22:05:13 I'm not sure what would make the god more fun for me though 22:05:57 maybe streamlining some of the turret creation and a bit more of that as a focus 22:06:42 sounds solid to me 22:06:53 I also don't like spamming sunlight 22:07:01 agreed 22:07:10 it's a god with some of the best god flavor, too bad it feels unfun to play 22:07:22 just wait til we add farmers 22:07:28 you'll love the scythe action 22:07:44 will that involve worshiping F with the new council god wrath? 22:08:02 oo, nice 22:08:03 I think Fedhas' plants should become normal over time (e.g. oklob plant --> plant) 22:08:03 good idea 22:08:27 ok I have the commit message, I'm not sure how to actually confirm it 22:08:33 confirm? 22:08:40 git log 22:08:42 I can't leave the "enter commit message" window 22:08:45 shows you the commits 22:08:56 oh, well I'm not sure how you're commiting 22:09:03 or rather what is your editor 22:09:18 is it time... for pngs??? 22:09:28 well what is your environment, msys2? 22:09:29 CanOfWorms: vi? 22:09:34 yeah, msys 22:09:36 http://puu.sh/sR6hu/76112c261f.png 22:09:36 :wq 22:09:45 ah, there we go 22:10:10 oh, yeah, and you'll want to use vim's autowrap 22:10:16 I imagine you wrapped that text yourself? 22:10:21 yes 22:10:43 oh, I already exited the commit and I'm in the middle of the second commit 22:10:51 should I go back and fix it then? 22:11:00 hrm, how are you in the middle of the second commit? 22:11:05 you mean you've started work on it? 22:11:12 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:11:17 yeah I add -p'd it and am writing the message for it 22:11:21 ah ok 22:11:29 yeah for that, you can do a rebase 22:11:41 just finish your commit and then you can rebase to edit the previous commit message 22:11:44 ok 22:12:01 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:14:08 okay, how do I rebase 22:14:54 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:14:54 so with rebase, you tell it what you rebase relative to, which in this case origin/master will do 22:14:56 the command is: git rebase -i origin/master 22:15:20 so it will show you a list of commits in vim that are in your HEAD but not in origin/master 22:15:27 this will be your two commits 22:15:34 yeah 22:15:45 each commit is on a line, and you edit the first word of each line to say what you want to do to each commit 22:16:03 for the one you want to tweak the message of, replace that first word with "r" for reword commit 22:16:12 there are instructions in the vim buffer there for you 22:16:23 don't edit the commit message in that buffer though 22:16:27 you're just saying what you want to do 22:16:44 so once you change that word to r, you do :wq 22:16:56 it will then reopen in vim with the commit message 22:17:10 since you told it to (r)eword commit 22:17:39 you can also fully modify the commit using other actions like 'e', and it sends you back to shell to make commit changes 22:17:50 but in this case you're just changing the commit message 22:18:07 so once the message is editied, you can just :wq again 22:18:13 and in git log you should see your changes 22:18:32 if something gets weird, do git status and see if you're still rebasing 22:18:39 and you can do git rebase --cancel 22:18:44 yeah, looks like it's fixed 22:19:10 one thing I like to do with commits is look at the full diff + message 22:19:14 before I push 22:20:05 git format-patch --stdout origin/master > mystuff.patch 22:20:30 which says make a patch file relative to origin/master, sending it to the file mystuff.patch 22:20:33 then you look that file over 22:20:40 shows you each commit with associated diff 22:20:44 and the commit message 22:20:59 alternately you can do git show for the commits in question to see the diff 22:21:13 if it all looks good, you can push 22:21:20 but do a test compilation before you push 22:21:34 hopefully you have ccache set up so that will be fast 22:21:38 I did a test compilation before I even committed!!! 22:21:56 unless a test compilation means something other than just make 22:22:13 you do it before, you do it after rebases etc 22:22:19 ah okay 22:22:45 I mean, one day you'll make a commit that breaks things, it's not the end of the world 22:22:53 just helps to minimize it 22:23:07 but yeah, set up ccache when you have the time, really helps 22:28:43 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:33:55 compilation looks good 22:33:59 so I just git push now? 22:34:32 git branch? 22:34:40 make sure you're on master 22:35:03 if it says (master) that means I'm on master? 22:35:06 yes 22:35:12 good, good 22:35:52 03CanOfWorms02 07* 0.20-a0-302-geba3175: Don't leak speed brand when examining inventory 10(31 minutes ago, 3 files, 9+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eba3175d130d 22:35:52 03CanOfWorms02 07* 0.20-a0-303-g575bbf7: Update some code to item_brand_known 10(26 minutes ago, 3 files, 3+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/575bbf731dbd 22:36:35 small point, but you generally don't need to list variable names and function names 22:36:46 "Refactor brand code" or "Update brand code" 22:39:06 ah 22:39:17 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:39:19 mostly just in the commit title 22:39:27 in the body you can put more details if that seems helpful 22:39:47 looks like your commit message didn't get wrapped for the first one 22:40:12 oh 22:40:14 hrm 22:40:28 -!- Pleasingfungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:49 -!- jefus has quit [Client Quit] 22:40:49 uh oh 22:40:57 and now a fungus has spotted it 22:41:07 it's all over for you, CanOfWorms 22:41:13 fungus has sprouted it 22:41:16 oh oooo 22:41:19 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:41:20 *noooo 22:43:42 I think the vim I use doesn't have autowrap enabled by default? 22:46:04 :se wrap wm=8 22:46:16 or some such 22:46:16 fr: leak brand 22:46:16 (wm = wrapmargin) 22:46:27 when you hit a monster with the weapon, a liquid comes out depending on the type of monster 22:46:40 are you saying... you want to return monster bleeding? 22:46:49 blood if its a human, water if its a water elemental, etc 22:46:51 it never left... 22:47:03 pee if it's cerebov 22:47:47 geekosaur: it doesn't seem to have any effect 22:48:19 hair gel if it's ilsuiw 22:48:54 hm, does here. note that it appliues only to insert mode, it won't automatically rewrap existing text 22:49:14 jelly if it's a jelly 22:49:31 yeah I tried both ways and there isn't a noticeable difference either way 22:50:11 BITD we did that with 1G!Gfmt 22:50:50 (top of file, pipe to end of file through "fmt" and replace with the result) 22:52:05 /qiot 22:52:07 -!- dpeg_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:53:54 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 22:54:51 geekosaur: fmt is not a recognized command 22:55:01 figures :/ 22:55:11 I'm on mint and it came preinstalled 22:56:16 hm, part of coreutils 22:56:34 platform? 22:56:47 windows 22:56:59 I'm using msys for committing 22:57:00 that'd do it :/ 22:57:22 Possible bug: If i right click on an item in my inventory once, then I escape the screen with esc, then i right click again on that item and press again esc, then monsters will take a turn and make their actions 22:57:44 ok, try: 1GgqG 22:57:54 CanOfWorms: I select the area I want to wrap by hitting V 22:58:03 another thing I guess the vim folks absorbed.. 22:58:20 and then hilighting the lines I want 22:58:23 :gq 22:58:35 sorry 22:58:36 just gq 22:58:39 not :gq 22:59:25 (the turn counter will not increment, but will report that last action duration was (0.0) but naturally in that 0.0 monsters did all what they want) 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:24 fr: ghosts leave ectoplasm spatters, like blood spatters 23:02:52 looks like gq works 23:06:03 darkschneider: sounds like a bug, all right! mind putting it up on mantis? 23:06:05 ??mantis 23:06:05 mantis[1/2]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 23:09:15 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-303-g575bbf7 (34) 23:12:10 Pleasingfungus, yep i wanted confirmation from someone else, i hunted this and another that may actually be related, cause under some similar circumstances, it really happens that my char takes a step to left, but i did not discovered the combo for it 23:12:45 are you on windows? 23:12:48 i'll open the report tomorrow cause it's 5am :D 23:12:55 fair enough! 23:13:08 * darkschneider finds the question a little insulting :P 23:13:17 it's important to know! 23:13:28 there are known windows-specific tiles bugs... 23:13:29 sadly 23:13:37 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 23:13:37 The build has errored. (master - 575bbf7 #7394 : x0_000): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/184437341 23:13:37 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 23:13:47 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:13:58 WHAT 23:14:06 j/k :P i'm not ;) 23:14:18 yes, i'd figured that out by now :) 23:14:20 CanOfWorms: not your fault 23:14:26 travis issue 23:14:45 also need to change my nick when I'm committing with msys... 23:16:39 lol :D i trigger bugs :D it's my spirit. anyway more serious there is some unit tests for beogh gifts to orcs? i really suspect there is something there, but i checked the code and looks fine, but there is something i can loop a bit to test all combinations (i.e. generate 100 mock random orcs, give a lot of gifts and see if confirms my suspect) 23:17:09 <|amethyst> unit tests 23:17:13 <|amethyst> this guy's hilarious 23:17:32 * |amethyst weeps silently 23:17:58 darkschneider: what do you suspect? 23:18:03 yep ;) i did not asked for proper one, but maybe someone set up a "mock"/test system already 23:18:13 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 23:20:04 we have a test system, but it's only really suited for integration tests & basic data validation 23:20:12 grain of salt helps ;) The chances of beogh actually giving an item to some mepty handed and no armored orcs are strange. Indeed i tested with a large band of orcs and after some time those that started with weapons had quite some enchantments and upgrades, but those empty handed where more or less still so. Looking at the code it should really give the item immediately before the upgrade 23:20:36 !source godblessing.cc 23:20:36 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/godblessing.cc 23:20:42 (sorry i'm now to crawl source as you see) 23:20:49 oh, no need for apologies 23:20:57 what you probably want to do is spawn an orc in wizmode 23:20:59 &morc 23:21:07 yep the code looks fine i already checked it, that why i wanted to test with numbers 23:21:26 cursor over it with x, and then use P to apply divine blessing 23:21:30 that what i did :D and the suspect came, but the source looks fine 23:21:50 'and that made you suspicious', you mean? 23:21:58 ho sorry yes 23:22:04 again, no worries 23:22:07 just making sure i understand 23:22:18 that's proper english 23:22:27 (could alternately use 'and the suspicion came', though that's a bit poetic/unusual) 23:22:43 (maybe i was intending some suspect entered my room :P ) 23:23:16 (tx ;) ) 23:23:35 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:24:48 enh, it's English. it'll survive :p 23:25:08 so, thanks again, will have a look with rested brain and check again my claims ;) 23:25:51 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:26:12 !source ctest.cc 23:26:12 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/ctest.cc 23:26:19 ^ here's a place to add a call for a test 23:26:33 make_name_tests() is probably closest to what you want 23:26:45 then you can invoke it from the command line 23:26:50 gammafunk: demise is visiting the moon in DECj part 7 19:50 23:27:13 you wanna know a fact? 23:27:27 there are no australians on the moon 23:27:27 ALSO no canadians 23:27:34 !!! 23:27:52 no jews. i checked the other day,since people were talking about moon jews 23:28:43 looking at the .20 plan 23:28:57 lair going to just 4 floors seems a bit extreme 23:29:16 i'm personally not excited by it, but i'm retired 23:31:46 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:33:10 -!- wheals__ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:33:57 CanOfWorms: tell him he skipped the acquire_any item behind the statue 23:34:06 he didn't kill the statue 23:34:16 right 23:34:23 but he was lookign for loot 23:34:33 in all the wrong places 23:34:34 yeah he was confused by the autoexclud 23:34:37 statue would have been a trivial kill for him 23:34:47 I think he just didn't notice it 23:34:49 somehow 23:34:57 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 23:35:03 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:35:27 I should make every tile excluded when you enter 23:35:30 individually 23:35:47 really spell out the danger 23:35:53 helpful to people checking for traps! 23:35:57 exactly 23:36:09 just unmark tiles as you walk on em 23:42:55 -!- concrocotta has quit [Quit: Ciao] 23:46:44 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:49:49 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:50:18 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:50:35 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:51:04 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 23:52:52 wow, a earth elemental kill 23:52:54 that's somethinig 23:53:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:53:11 -!- saty has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:53:18 http://i.imgur.com/ylbtIkb.png 23:53:20 courtesy of 4ch 23:54:15 nice strats 23:56:06 .gfgk 23:56:07 133. lossjpg the Hoplite (L20 GrFi of Okawaru), blasted by a moon troll (bolt of acid) in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2016-12-16 02:33:27, with 293460 points after 40942 turns and 3:18:06. 23:56:17 as I was watching this tv, I noticed his weapon 23:56:19 +1 mace of the Thing {crush, rN+ Str+6} 23:56:21 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 23:56:42 I guess the moon troll wasn't impressed by that strength 23:58:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host]