00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:26 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-214-gb74cb0e (34) 00:03:16 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:20:53 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:26 -!- Caw_ has quit [Client Quit] 00:35:10 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:38:08 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:45:40 whose hilarious idea was it to have a vault (i assume) that will show up on d:7 with a death knight, freezing wraith, and phantasmal warrior? 00:45:51 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:45:53 is this an actual vault? 00:46:03 or just an unlucky coupling of OOD monsters? 00:47:10 no vault, ad=s he had no kmap 00:47:42 yeah, just a bad ood spawn 00:47:45 s/d=// 00:47:56 hahaha 00:47:59 past about D:7 (or on D:7 itself) you should start expecting nasty spawns 00:48:11 Dungeon itself has a very uneven spawn table... we're looking at adjusting that 00:48:12 ok, i feel better knowing that it didn't come from a vault 00:48:22 adders can spawn very late and that's probably dumb 00:48:26 yeah, i ran into an ugly thing on d:6 not very long ago 00:50:13 !lg . current killer=hornet d s=place o=place 00:50:14 No games for rchandra (current killer=hornet d). 00:50:22 !lg * current killer=hornet d s=place o=place 00:50:23 633 games for * (current killer=hornet d): 81x D:9, 187x D:8, 141x D:7, 55x D:6, 39x D:5, 36x D:4, 28x D:3, 2x D:2, D:15, D:14, D:13, 5x D:12, 22x D:11, 34x D:10 00:50:24 hmm 00:50:26 while we're at it 00:50:27 !lg * ikiller~~acid_dragon 00:50:28 3. Azru the Basher (L8 MuFi of Okawaru), slain by an acid dragon on D:7 on 2016-11-26 23:02:01, with 1869 points after 7913 turns and 0:15:14. 00:50:32 only three in four days? 00:50:49 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:51:57 three in four days is pretty impressive 00:52:49 -!- Ragnor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:53:16 !lg * ikiller~~mottled_dragon t 00:53:17 49. glosham the Sneak (L3 SpWr of Makhleb), slain by a mottled dragon on D:9 on 2016-11-20 15:25:41, with 39 points after 946 turns and 0:08:15. 00:59:07 !lg * ikiller~~dragon g=ikiller 00:59:08 39642 games for * (ikiller~~dragon): 14897x a komodo dragon, 4484x an ice dragon, 4397x a steam dragon, 2622x a fire dragon, 1997x a bone dragon, 1822x a dragon, 1502x a storm dragon, 1501x a mottled dragon, 967x a shadow dragon, 692x a swamp dragon, 680x a golden dragon, 574x a quicksilver dragon, 265x an iron dragon, 260x a golden dragon simulacrum, 176x a komodo dragon zombie, 153x a quicksilve... 00:59:27 rip dragonkind 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:08 !lg * ikiller~~dragon g=ikiller xl>14 01:00:20 7242 games for * (ikiller~~dragon xl>14): 971x a storm dragon, 887x an ice dragon, 786x a shadow dragon, 736x a fire dragon, 642x a golden dragon, 567x a dragon, 542x a bone dragon, 456x a quicksilver dragon, 435x a swamp dragon, 241x an iron dragon, 209x a golden dragon simulacrum, 128x a pearl dragon, 96x a komodo dragon, 30x a storm dragon simulacrum, 29x a quicksilver dragon simulacrum, 27x a ... 01:00:20 !lg * ikiller~~wyvern 01:00:20 13895. ReaperX666 the Carver (L11 HOFi of Beogh), slain by Sonja the wyvern on D:10 on 2016-11-27 00:20:03, with 7802 points after 9067 turns and 0:16:46. 01:00:40 not the most representative… 01:00:40 !lg * ikiller~~dragon g=ikiller xl>14 t 01:00:40 157 games for * (ikiller~~dragon xl>14 t): 30x a golden dragon, 25x a fire dragon, 19x a storm dragon, 18x a quicksilver dragon, 16x a shadow dragon, 12x a swamp dragon, 10x an ice dragon, 6x a bone dragon, 6x a golden dragon simulacrum, 4x an iron dragon, a komodo dragon (shapeshifter), a komodo dragon, a golden dragon skeleton, an ice dragon (shapeshifter), an ice dragon (glowing shapeshifter), ... 01:02:34 interesting that shadow rates so highly 01:02:41 given what people try to whisper into my ear otherwise 01:03:16 !lg * ikiller~~dream_sheep 01:03:17 81. DEFE the Nimble (L14 KoGl of Okawaru), slain by a dream sheep on Lair:6 on 2016-11-24 09:06:33, with 32942 points after 16793 turns and 0:27:13. 01:03:25 I really should figure out that sleep thing, ugh 01:03:32 !tell Brannock pester PF about the sleep code this week 01:03:33 Brannock: OK, I'll let brannock know. 01:05:44 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:47 !tell gammafunk Pester Brannock about pestering PF bout the sleep code this week 01:07:47 gammafunk: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 01:10:26 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:11 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 01:15:01 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:36 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:19:00 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-214-gb74cb0e (34) 01:20:56 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 01:21:36 -!- Zekka|2 is now known as Zekka 01:26:35 sophia (L15 GrFi) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1978 failed. (Zot (ZotDef)) 01:56:20 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-214-gb74cb0e 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:08:22 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:33 !kw ieoh 02:10:33 Keyword: ieoh => god=ieoh_jian 02:15:09 is it feasible to reach max sif piety while training anything else at all? I've been training 50-80% magic and wearing faith, and haven't gotten to 6* for 20k turns, not using the abilities. I had another character (without faith) in a similar spot for more like 50k turns, but that one was a cat so always resting/running/taking forever to kill things 02:25:26 in wizard mode, is there a way to generate an entrance to the desolation of salt? 02:25:42 aegolden: do you really want an entrance, or do you want to go there? 02:25:58 the simplest way would be to use &P or &L to place a desolation entry vault 02:25:58 oh actually I just want to go there 02:26:07 then just & 02:26:13 where is the one listed for desolation 02:26:26 it's a long list, desolation would be listed towards the end 02:26:30 right, totally forgot I could just magic teleport there 02:26:43 I just wanted to check out the new area 02:26:51 rchandra: what do you mean "training anything else at all" 02:27:08 if you're asking if you have to train 100% magic, then no, you don't have to 02:27:18 keep in mind that reaching max piety gets you nothing in particular for sif 02:27:55 it does give you a little better miscast protection, but aside from just having more piety, that's all you'd get 02:28:12 gifts begin at 5* 02:30:22 except you get gifts more often the higher your piety is 02:31:56 it would be cool if, in the desolation of salt, you could find an altar to the “minor god of wind and whispers” referenced in the servant of whispers flavor text. 02:32:09 gammafunk: and those tournament ponits 02:32:36 I guess I haven't had a problem with getting book gifts my sif games 02:33:04 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:33:08 as someone who probably uses channel more than most players 02:33:26 and tournament points, pff! 02:33:31 let the tournament players suffer 02:33:32 there's also the feedback side, if you never reach max you get discouraged from using them 02:33:45 using the abilities, that is 02:33:47 dicouraged? 02:33:52 *discouraged 02:34:01 because you clearly aren't gaining enough piety as is 02:34:13 well that's not how the higher piety levels really work 02:34:14 so you feel you have to save save save 02:34:23 if what you say is true then people must not be using finesse either 02:34:30 people don't use finesse 02:34:36 people do though 02:34:36 -!- anthems has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:34:51 only winners, not people 02:35:01 right, if you play poorly, you won't use finesse 02:35:12 you do, and i do, because we don't value god gifts as much as most players 02:35:24 I mean if you want to say that the way piety levels work is innately bad, I won't really argue 02:36:08 i'm not saying that. i'm saying that " keep in mind that reaching max piety gets you nothing in particular for sif" is completely wrong because it gives you more gifts 02:36:35 I'm just saying it feels bad. especially when I told myself I 'd take of faith for something I wanted more on reaching 6*, never reached after that long, and died doing something dumb 02:36:38 (as it does for okawaru and trog) 02:36:56 rchandra: I don't get "on reaching 6*" really 02:37:22 I guess if this is an argument for god gifts, then ok, perhaps they shouldn't depend on piety in that way 02:37:47 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:38:02 gammafunk: most players think in terms of "on reaching 6*" or "on reaching 5*" or whatever because crawl tries to hide your exact piety 02:38:14 I didn't have any real problem with the gifts 02:38:32 every once in a while a book would show, a couple timse it had something great, what more can I ask? 02:38:47 minmay: is it even possible to see your exact piety? 02:38:50 obviously it makes more sense to take off faith at the exact piety level where you don't lose abilities you care about (when it makes sense to take off faith at all, which is rarely) 02:39:03 but most players aren't willing to keep track of their exact piety level (if they even know how) 02:39:07 even I don't keep track of my exact piety level 02:40:17 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:40:18 !lm . sif god.maxpiety x=turns 02:40:19 373. [2016-10-19 01:52:36] [turn=81098] gammafunk the Devastator (L22 KoIE of Sif Muna) became the Champion of Sif Muna on turn 81098. (Vaults:2) 02:40:27 81k 02:40:29 you are correct that players shouldn't care about reaching 6* specifically, but DCSS goes to great lengths to hide the information needed to come to that conclusion organically 02:40:57 rchandra: just don't splat before 81k, surely you can manage 02:41:06 !lg . cat sif 02:41:07 1. hyperrchandra the Spry (L15 FeEE of Sif Muna), mangled by a black mamba (kmap: nicolae_snake_springs) on Snake:3 on 2016-11-12 01:48:17, with 89395 points after 54753 turns and 3:50:14. 02:41:14 not good enough 02:41:16 lol 02:41:24 wow, 89k and xl15 02:41:31 yeah, that was painful 02:41:40 well cat 15, so more like 19 or 20 02:41:55 because they needed more suffering 02:42:17 twitch will make me play a cat again soon, I had a dream about it the other day 02:42:41 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:43:06 ^status 02:43:07 31 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=88% (135GB) | RAM usage=33% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 02:43:05 up 744 days, 13:01, 4 users, load average: 0.56, 0.59, 0.47 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org 02:46:06 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:52:11 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-214-gb74cb0e 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:09:36 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:15:29 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:32:56 -!- glaas has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 03:46:53 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:48:38 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01:41 -!- aegolden has quit [Quit: aegolden] 04:02:30 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:04:41 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(Depths:4) 09:37:31 -!- Wolpertinger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:39:19 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:21 -!- d72 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:02:05 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:07:25 -!- Alarkh has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:23:21 -!- CrawlWall has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:26:22 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:29:39 -!- anthems has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:39:08 -!- advil has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:28 hi, I have an "is this a bug or a weird jiyva thing" question: http://imgur.com/a/Cmjxc 10:44:35 also, how do I get rid of trees 10:49:59 <|amethyst> advil: it is a bug. You can burn it down with "Fire" spells or wands (not "Flame"), or with lightning bolt 10:50:30 ok, should I file a report? 10:51:02 hope I can find something that will actually work, there's not many items left 10:51:26 would disc of storms work? 10:51:30 <|amethyst> if you don't have spells, wand of lightning bolt or lamp of fire is probably your best bet, ctrl-f those 10:51:33 <|amethyst> hm 10:51:44 <|amethyst> not sure if disc works 10:51:50 <|amethyst> let me test 10:51:52 lamp of fire in shop 10:52:10 <|amethyst> let me test that too 10:52:13 thanks!! 10:52:36 I haven't cleared vaults 5 so undoubtedly if I had to I could get something there on this char 10:53:20 <|amethyst> disc will start fires, but only the beams, not the explosions 10:53:24 <|amethyst> so it might take a few tries 10:53:44 ok great, thanks...I'll maybe clear the level before trying 10:54:02 should I file a mantis report? 10:54:19 <|amethyst> lamp of fire doesn't seem to work when I just tested... the flames spread out rather than hitting trees 10:54:31 also would you want a savegame? 10:54:35 <|amethyst> checking whether there is an existing report 10:54:43 <|amethyst> yes, that would be useful 10:54:57 <|amethyst> it would let us see which vault is responsible for doing that 10:55:17 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:55:19 it looks almost intentional, given the symmetry 10:57:32 -!- graymark has quit [Client Quit] 10:57:47 <|amethyst> I don't see any existing reports that are really apropos... #10522 is vaguely related but probably different (there, each of the segments had a stair, but here you don't have a stair on the other side of the trees) 10:57:54 <|amethyst> so I'd start a new report 10:58:26 <|amethyst> it's definitely not intentional... the Hall of Zot vault doesn't even contain the part with the trees, so it must have been that one vault got overlaid atop another 10:59:00 ah I see what you mean 10:59:08 ok, I'll do that...how do I get the save file? Does johnstein do that? (it's a cbro game) 10:59:18 <|amethyst> advil: since you use ssh 10:59:51 <|amethyst> advil: back in the menu for this version, do (A)dvanced -> (B)ackup then when it asks, say (n) for normal 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:11 <|amethyst> advil: that will give you a URL; you can't download the save, but devs can, so put that URL in the bug report 11:00:56 <|amethyst> advil: (if you were using webtiles, the instructions would be the same, except they would start with 1. get an ssh client :) 11:01:08 haha thanks, that's easy 11:04:56 -!- chcl3 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:06:51 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:07:00 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 11:08:26 Trees blocking the hall of zot entrance 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10828 by advil 11:09:23 sorry, slightly mangled html 11:09:28 but it mostly works 11:10:00 <|amethyst> I'll edit that 11:11:31 thanks for your help |amethyst 11:12:16 -!- frd has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:12:24 <|amethyst> hm 11:12:28 <|amethyst> np 11:12:45 <|amethyst> I don't think it's a vault.. maybe layout_gridlike did that? 11:14:13 <|amethyst> added a note 11:23:11 -!- chcl3 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:25:25 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:26:08 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 11:27:07 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32:46 Door connected to nothing on D:2 http://pastebin.com/Uz7UEdjE 11:38:02 -!- toalpaz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:49:40 -!- chcl3 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03:16 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:05:45 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-214-gb74cb0e (34) 12:06:02 -!- Tungsten has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:07:24 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:44 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:18:29 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:38:21 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:45:58 -!- chcl3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57:17 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:05:48 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 13:07:37 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-215-ga0e9fd5: Fix pizza syntax 10(46 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a0e9fd510a49 13:10:26 -!- Kaishin__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:11:49 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:11 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:15:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:16:35 -!- Dracunos_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:04 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:17:16 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos 13:18:01 -!- advil has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:23:37 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:25:11 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Client Quit] 13:25:54 -!- kr4n3x has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:30:45 -!- newtant has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:31:44 1learn a create_save_backup get an ssh client 13:32:24 I keep thinking I should add a tip page on that 13:32:38 for webtiles 13:32:52 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 13:36:09 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:36:48 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:28 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:02 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:44:31 -!- Kranix has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45:54 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:46:33 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:00:03 -!- omarax_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02:13 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-216-g962fb7d: Remove obsolete Nemelex/sac artifice handling 10(71 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/962fb7dd74fe 14:02:13 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-217-g17e8ceb: Adjust a god worship message 10(31 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/17e8cebab72d 14:09:28 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-215-ga0e9fd5 (34) 14:20:09 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:20:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 14:27:56 -!- aegolden has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:26 !messages 14:32:26 No messages for aegolden. 14:32:28 bgiannan_, for what it's worth that has been happening forever, as far as I can tell it's just a weird corner case of level generation 14:32:32 -!- Kenran has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:35:45 -!- Kenran has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:56 -!- Kenran has quit [Client Quit] 14:35:56 -!- saitcho has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:19 got a dumb issue on a server im running at bo-crawl.cloudapp.net 14:36:31 milestones for non-trunk versions are not updating in DGL menu 14:36:43 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:36:45 dglwhere is working and shows player loc/specs/level but not showing the milestone 14:36:49 -!- Kenran has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:06 i've poked around but cant find where dgl is reading milestones from. milestones all linked in meta properly for all versions 14:48:19 sophia (L15 GrFi) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1978 failed. (Zot (ZotDef)) 14:52:37 -!- aegolden has quit [Quit: aegolden] 14:54:37 -!- aegolden has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:38 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:55 saitcho: you mean in the lobby? 15:04:42 saitcho: if so, remember to restart the inotify script after adding new versions 15:05:05 saitcho: this assumes you are following dgl[2 wiki instructions 15:05:33 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:08:29 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:21 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-217-g17e8ceb (34) 15:15:08 johnstein: i did restart the inotify script. most of inotify is working its just milestone column that isnt getting updated 15:17:12 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 15:17:44 milestone gets updated for trunk games but not stable games 15:18:15 i checked the versions db and noticed that its got entries for trunk versions but not stable. not sure if that would have anything to do with it or not 15:18:17 when the milestone column isn't being updated in the lobby it's always been fixed by restarting inotify. I can take a look later through my notes to see if I ran into some other issue 15:18:35 are you using the standard update scripts/process? 15:18:44 or do you have any customizations? 15:18:46 yes 15:18:51 its just standard, following wiki 15:19:46 dumb question. the milestone field isn't updated until after the next milestone I think. have you ensured there's been a milestone since the inotify restart? 15:19:57 (this happened to me once) 15:20:02 (on a slow day) 15:20:09 yes, i created several new games on each stable version 15:20:16 which should have the "Begun the quest for the orb" milestone 15:20:21 yup 15:20:25 which does work on trunk 15:20:52 I'll take a look at home. !tell me what you did to look up the versions in the db. it's been a while since I looked at that 15:21:03 I can at least tell you how cbro looks 15:21:07 -!- toalpaz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:21:32 !tell johnstein i used sqlite3 to open the crawl-versions.db3 file and did select * from versions 15:21:33 saitcho: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 15:26:59 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:31:22 -!- Grammus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:35:25 Not sure how the database works, but could someone please update the entry of ??ieoh jian so it points to this forum post? https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22336 15:35:29 thanks :) 15:36:40 !learn set ieoh_jian[1 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22336 15:36:41 ieoh jian[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22336 15:37:05 cheers :) 15:39:01 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:34 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:42:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:49:04 !tell johnstein hmm, if you have a chance coudl you also tell me what you have in your config.py file for the milestone_file setting? 15:49:05 saitcho: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 15:50:52 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:52 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:26 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:06:14 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:06:30 -!- kr4n3x has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:06:59 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:44 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 16:14:30 would any server admins present mine sharing their config.py milestones_file entry? 16:14:48 i am troubleshooting why webserver isnt updating milestones for stable versions but its working fine for trunk 16:23:13 saitcho, here's the current cbro dgamelaunch-config repo: https://github.com/neilmoore/dgamelaunch-config/tree/cbro 16:23:14 johnstein: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 16:23:31 !messages 16:23:31 No messages for saitcho. 16:23:56 !tell nicolae- You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:23:56 nicolae-: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:23:56 nicolae-: OK, I'll let nicolae- know. 16:24:03 !messages 16:24:03 (1/2) regret-index said (2w 2d 17h 38m 14s ago): I personally marginally nerfed phyte_club a few months ago due to difficulty-jumpiness but if there was maybe seven large non-vaults for each lair branch I'd probably let the cruelty standard marginally rise 16:24:07 ah ha 16:24:13 !messages 16:24:14 No messages for saitcho. 16:24:14 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:24:20 !messages 16:24:20 (1/1) nicolae- said (25s ago): You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:24:35 saitcho, there's a chance that the wiki is a bit out of date or wrong with things. (SMALL CHANCE!) so please please update if you find anything honked up 16:25:26 !tell johnstein thanks a ton 16:25:26 saitcho: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 16:26:04 !tell regret-index seven large non-vaults for each lair branch. what do you mean by a non-vault here. 16:26:05 nicolae-: OK, I'll let regret-index know. 16:28:06 !messages 16:28:07 No messages for saitcho. 16:29:42 !tell saitcho here is a message for you :) 16:29:42 nicolae-: OK, I'll let saitcho know. 16:30:06 it's interesting to me that Sequell lets you send messages to yourself 16:30:15 i guess it works as a reminder? 16:31:47 saitcho, here's the output of the versions in the db. but I suspect I'm missing some stuff since I don't see any v0.13 stuff in there... 16:31:47 johnstein: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:31:47 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/misc/version-dump.txt 16:34:16 thanks john. i think the database only has versions of trunk and not stable 16:34:16 saitcho: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:34:33 and my issue was that my milestone_file entry in config.py was incomplete. its resolved now 16:34:35 thanks for all your help! 16:37:14 cool! 16:37:53 always nice to know other people who've slogged through dgamelaunch crap 16:39:29 I almost ALWAYS forget to add this comma when I update new versions. see: 16:39:30 https://github.com/neilmoore/dgamelaunch-config/commit/4e8e2666eaede2926ca46710d2952227cf7b6bc3 16:39:35 https://github.com/neilmoore/dgamelaunch-config/commit/4d70e6bccbc52d6cbc578ecdbfbc2d782657df27 16:39:39 https://github.com/neilmoore/dgamelaunch-config/commit/7f12cf6f2971c6e7067a0c61ee8f546682faef36 16:40:06 it's such a horrible neat little system 16:42:15 ive made that same mistake 16:42:18 johnstein: does CBRO keep chat logs? 16:42:35 just curious 16:45:45 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:48:44 sophia (L15 GrFi) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1978 failed. (Zot (ZotDef)) 16:49:07 -!- aegolden has quit [Quit: aegolden] 16:49:23 -!- aegolden has joined ##crawl-dev 16:49:56 -!- aegolden has quit [Client Quit] 16:50:20 -!- aegolden has joined ##crawl-dev 16:50:20 -!- aegolden has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:50:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:53:06 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:56:08 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:58:23 SteelNeuron, don't think so 16:58:53 pretty sure any logs would be in the dump/morgue files for players who allow that output vi rc file settings 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:32 I don't see anything in the webtiles logs 17:02:17 looks like /var/mail has console messages. but there's not much there. 17:03:44 there's very very little there 17:04:51 no problem, thanks johnstein :) 17:05:12 Someone left me some useful feedback, next time I'll make sure to capture it! 17:06:09 !hs * !ijc !god= 17:06:10 Broken query near '= max=sc sc<1000000000' 17:06:14 !lg * !ijc !god= 17:06:15 Broken query near '=' 17:06:33 !lg * ijc 17:06:34 250. LogicNinja the Carver (L9 MiMo of Ieoh Jian), mangled by Snicker's ghost on D:9 on 2016-11-27 21:44:01, with 3828 points after 6866 turns and 0:11:17. 17:06:41 !lg * ijc !god=iwc 17:06:42 Broken query near '=iwc' 17:06:45 !lg * ijc !god=ijc 17:06:46 Broken query near '=ijc' 17:06:52 !lg * ijc god!=ijc 17:06:53 250. LogicNinja the Carver (L9 MiMo of Ieoh Jian), mangled by Snicker's ghost on D:9 on 2016-11-27 21:44:01, with 3828 points after 6866 turns and 0:11:17. 17:07:09 -!- saitcho has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:07:11 /kick johnstein to ##crawl-sequell 17:07:52 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:12:46 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:19:39 Ofeo (L25 MiFi) (Slime:1) 17:19:45 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 17:20:12 Ofeo (L25 MiFi) (Slime:1) 17:20:26 !crash Ofeo 17:20:27 2. Ofeo, XL25 MiFi, T:70228 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Ofeo/crash-Ofeo-20161127-221956.txt 17:22:52 ruh roh 17:32:34 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:35:04 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:37:27 -!- Ofeo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:39:58 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:40:05 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:41:25 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:48:42 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:49:47 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:32 -!- Vitalus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:54:15 -!- Vitalus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:57:10 750 rsponses!! 17:57:41 -!- kr4n3x has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:58:12 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:58:44 -!- vic has quit [Client Quit] 17:59:42 -!- Vitalus has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:51 -!- Taraiph has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:01:11 -!- Vitalus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:40 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-217-g17e8ceb (34) 18:04:12 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:04:37 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:05:48 -!- shas has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:09:25 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:12:05 invisibility being a xom and chaos effect is the worst thing ever 18:12:20 !source wield_weapon 18:12:21 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/item_use.cc#L449 18:13:16 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:14:52 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:14:58 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:17:21 chequers: how many responses in the previous version? 18:18:22 !source item_is_wieldable 18:18:22 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/invent.cc#L1968 18:18:25 johnstein: can't recall 18:23:48 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:30:17 New branch created: pull/416 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/416 18:30:17 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/416 * 0.20-a0-218-g83542ca: Don't let the player wield useless items 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/83542ca9c00a 18:31:34 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:35:54 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:40:10 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:46:23 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 18:52:06 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:52:39 -!- chcl3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:57:05 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:57:33 -!- Xiberia has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:58:06 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:59 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 19:02:30 -!- frd has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:05:06 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:14:37 -!- toalpaz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:16:43 Don't let Nemelex give decks of summoning for ones sacrificed Love 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10829 by papilio 19:18:56 I don't think nem should care really 19:19:17 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:38 -!- aditya has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 19:22:36 gods can be inconsistent about this sort of thing 19:22:54 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:23:37 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:23:59 it's god wrath, it has bad consequences. And less summoning means more other decks, which could be a situationally good consequence 19:26:00 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:40:14 other gods adapt to sac love though 19:40:35 probably either all the applicable gods should, or none should 19:40:45 (the latter is a lot easier) 19:42:03 <|amethyst> you mean things like Yred not dumping hostile undead on you? 19:42:42 well if you sac love you can't expect gods to love you any more 19:44:43 -!- Grammus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:15 |amethyst: yes 19:59:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:55 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:05:39 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 20:14:05 can you even worship yred after sacrificing love? I forget exactly which gods don't let you join 20:16:41 I think simply preventing worship is fine for gods that are really ally-based, but changing how the god functions to accommodate sacrificing love seems bad 20:23:23 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:44 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 20:54:39 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:15 -!- Xiberia has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 21:07:20 -!- koolguydude has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:09:07 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:14:27 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:44 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:10 Ofeo (L27 MiFi) ERROR: range check error (-1 / 52) (Zot:1) 21:20:32 !tell pleasingfungus more damage string suggestion: s/beats armour/penetrates armour/ (or 'causes damage'?) 21:20:32 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 21:33:51 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:12 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:36:21 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:39:10 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:40:16 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:48:43 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:50:37 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 21:59:50 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:11:47 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:19:23 !crash 22:19:24 16022. Ofeo, XL27 MiFi, T:86384 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Ofeo/crash-Ofeo-20161128-021659.txt 22:19:42 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:19:46 !lm ofeo x=vlong 22:19:47 296. [2016-11-28 03:18:28] [vlong=0.20-a0-235-g8b3a786] Ofeo the Swordmaster (L27 MiFi of Ieoh Jian) found an icy rune of Zot on turn 92512. (Coc:7) 22:23:32 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:24:15 -!- Codrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:38:34 Ofeo (L27 MiFi) ERROR: range check error (-1 / 52) (Pan) 22:39:01 !crash 22:39:02 16023. Ofeo, XL27 MiFi, T:94540 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Ofeo/crash-Ofeo-20161128-033825.txt 22:39:14 -!- Barfbag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:39:37 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:47:32 !tell SteelNeuron "project weapon" ability seems bugged? http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Ofeo/crash-Ofeo-20161128-033825.txt unrand_reacts() with (formerly wielded?) weapon = 0x0 22:47:32 geekosaur: OK, I'll let steelneuron know. 22:50:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:51:58 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:16 transmutations wanderers are as likely to get book of geomancy as they are to get book of transmutations 23:00:18 this seems silly 23:00:22 er, book of changes 23:00:42 since geomancy only has two tmut spells now 23:07:26 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:16:10 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:25:36 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 23:34:07 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:37:01 !kw mage 23:37:01 Keyword: mage => AE|Cj|EE|--FE|IE|Ne|Su|VM|Wz 23:37:03 !kw battlemage 23:37:04 No keyword 'battlemage' 23:37:12 ??kw 23:37:12 I don't have a page labeled kw in my learndb. Did you mean: *w, ew, gw, hw, k, ke, ko, qw, rw, tw, w, xw. 23:37:19 what's the list of kws again 23:37:31 !kw 23:37:31 !kw: Define keyword: `!kw ` to define, `!kw -rm ` to delete, `!kw ` to query, `!kw -ls` to list. 23:37:35 !kw -ls 23:37:36 User keywords: --he, abyssrun, adventurer, agilediesel, agileoctane, alive, alive_all, all, allcaps, alldam, allt, ancestor, ancestor.class, annihilated, arenasprint, atheist, ba, badchar, badform, banished, banishment, bat, bird, blacklist, blah, boggle, book, boring, brainless, branch.enter, buggygods, casualchar, cat, cehe, ceru, champion, clumsy, cobbed, collapse, color, colour, console, crate... 23:37:39 it's a long one 23:40:23 -!- flappity_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:41:50 <|amethyst> chequers: https://loom.shalott.org/userdef.html#keywords 23:42:13 <|amethyst> though I guess that doesn't include built-ins 23:42:54 !kw shooty --hu 23:42:55 Defined keyword: shooty => --hu 23:43:50 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:45:22 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:46:06 !kw mage 23:46:07 Keyword: mage => AE|Cj|EE|--FE|IE|Ne|Su|VM|Wz 23:46:09 !kw warriormage 23:46:10 Keyword: warriormage => Sk|Tm|Wr|AM|En 23:46:14 !kw warrior 23:46:15 Keyword: warrior => Fi|Gl|Mo|--Hu|As 23:46:33 hm... warrior doesn't include Be? 23:46:49 !kw zealot 23:46:49 Keyword: zealot => Be|AK|DK|CK|Pr|--He 23:47:35 rip 23:49:54 -!- Wolpertinger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:50:58 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:52:29 zealots aren't warriors 23:52:37 these classes come from the dcss class selection screen 23:53:26 well, these categories, calling them classes is a bit confusing 23:55:04 did any of the historic zealots start with Invoc? or do any of the current ones? 23:56:47 !lm * ak begin -log 23:58:05 lanetrain, XL1 SpAK, T:0 (milestone) has no matching game 23:59:59 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-217-g17e8ceb (34)