00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:32 !nchoice 00:00:40 OpWr: 0 wins || Leszczynek: CXC, L27 Sensei of Cheibriados || minmay: CBRO, L24 Eclecticist of Vehumet || edsrzf: CPO, L11 Martial Artist of Cheibriados || shinino: CBRO, L11 Thaumaturge of Hepliaklqana || TheAlmightyOne: CBRO, L11 Covert of Dithmenos || Eli: CAO, L10 Spear-Bearer of Hepliaklqana || fernweh: CBRO, L9 Covert of Dithmenos || ssteam: LLD, L7 Cudgeler of Uskayaw || SomeoneAwful: CBRO,... 00:00:41 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:00:51 =nemelex HEAr 00:00:53 Defined keyword: nchoice => opwr 00:01:21 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:01:37 -!- halv has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:02:29 huh 00:02:33 someone won opwr 00:02:35 no wins? 00:02:36 it's hear now 00:02:39 ah 00:02:45 must be a 0.19 win we don't have in sequell 00:02:58 CWZ 00:02:59 !kw nchoice 00:02:59 http://webzook.net/soup/morgue/0.19/igooo/morgue-igooo-20161105-035340.txt 00:03:00 Keyword: nchoice => opwr 00:03:14 odd that it didn't update 00:03:15 !nchoice 00:03:21 -!- Flowers has quit [Client Quit] 00:03:22 maybe because it saw no win 00:03:23 OpWr: 0 wins || Leszczynek: CXC, L27 Grand Master of Cheibriados || minmay: CBRO, L24 Eclecticist of Vehumet || edsrzf: CPO, L11 Martial Artist of Cheibriados || shinino: CBRO, L11 Thaumaturge of Hepliaklqana || TheAlmightyOne: CBRO, L11 Covert of Dithmenos || Eli: CAO, L10 Spear-Bearer of Hepliaklqana || fernweh: CBRO, L9 Covert of Dithmenos || ssteam: LLD, L7 Cudgeler of Uskayaw || SomeoneAwful:... 00:03:33 yeah cwz still have 0.19-b 00:03:46 we're going to need snark to add a thing for that for t games for cwz 00:04:54 !tell greensnark Can you also update sequell to accept 0.19-a games for cwz? They still have stone_soup-0.19 from before the release and will hopefully be updating soon 00:04:54 gammafunk: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 00:05:17 I'm not sure how to modify the sequell config otherwise I'd do it myself 00:05:19 !kw t 00:05:19 Built-in: t => start>='2016-11-04 20:00:00' time<'2016-11-20 20:00:00' cv=0.19 explbr= 00:05:32 it's a built-in so I can't modify 00:05:35 hrm 00:07:13 I see it in the sequell config but I'm not sure what the modification would be 00:07:22 maybe it would be to accept both 0.19 and 0.19-a 00:07:44 yeah looks like that's what was done for 0.16 and 0.17 00:08:38 !wtf cang 00:08:38 cang 00:08:44 !wtf greensnark 00:08:45 The completely awesome variety of snark. 00:08:49 !wtf hangedman 00:08:49 http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/127/f/0/The_Hanged_Man_by_Luktarig.jpg 00:08:59 spoopy 00:09:18 !wtf tgwi 00:09:18 The Good Wife (according to Wikipedia) 00:10:10 !lm * uniq.ens 00:10:11 3748. [2016-11-05 00:08:35] Crut the Grappler (L11 TrMo of Yredelemnul) enslaved Gastronok on turn 8021. (D:11) 00:10:14 wow 00:10:20 had no idea this generated a milestone 00:10:29 !lm uniq.slimify 00:10:32 3. [2016-04-04 19:39:50] gammafunk the Brawler (L23 TrCK of Jiyva) slimified Louise on turn 51530. (D:14) 00:10:36 nor that 00:10:46 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:10:53 and banishment and pacification 00:11:05 !lm uniq.ens 00:11:07 7. [2014-05-20 18:42:32] Brannock the Harbinger of Death (L22 HuFi of Yredelemnul) enslaved Xtahua on turn 57478. (Depths:4) 00:11:12 !lm * name=gammafunk uniq.pacify cwz 00:11:13 1. [2016-09-30 03:03:33] gammafunk the Mender (L23 HaSk of Elyvilon) pacified Mennas on turn 54663. (Vaults:4) 00:11:56 !lm * cwz cv=0.19-b 00:11:56 No milestones for * (cwz cv=0.19-b). 00:11:59 !lm * cwz cv=0.19-a 00:12:09 mmm 00:12:12 jesus christ this game is unique-infested 00:12:16 1021932. [2016-11-05 04:12:05] papilio the Axe Maniac (L27 MiBe of The Shining One) reached level 6 of a Ziggurat on turn 85186. (Zig:6) 00:12:34 !kw thack start>='2016-11-04 20:00:00' time<'2016-11-20 20:00:00' (( cv=0.19 || src=cwz cv=0.19-a )) explbr= 00:12:35 Defined keyword: thack => start>='2016-11-04 20:00:00' time<'2016-11-20 20:00:00' (( cv=0.19 || src=cwz cv=0.19-a )) explbr= 00:12:41 !lm * thack 00:12:42 17900. [2016-11-05 04:12:07] LordSloth the Bludgeoner (L16 FoFi of Cheibriados) killed Kirke on turn 26543. (Snake:1) 00:13:37 I guess you'd want to condition that on vlong to be more accurate 00:13:47 not sure if people can have non-updated trunk games on cwz though 00:13:49 probably not 00:13:57 it's not dgl based so it's a forced upgrade 00:14:18 !nick bcb 00:14:18 Mapping bcb => (t0.19) brannock gammafunk pleasingfungus wheals 00:14:18 that is what I was assuming, yes 00:14:34 !nick -rm bcb 00:14:35 Deleted bcb => (t0.19) brannock gammafunk pleasingfungus wheals 00:14:44 !nick bcb (thack) brannock gammafunk pleasingfungus wheals 00:14:44 Mapping bcb => (thack) brannock gammafunk pleasingfungus wheals 00:14:58 still waiting to hear from the amalloy_ and the bh 00:15:07 !gamesby bcb 00:15:07 Unknown field: time 00:15:13 oops 00:15:18 end 00:15:20 not stime 00:15:25 !kw thack 00:15:25 Keyword: thack => start>='2016-11-04 20:00:00' time<'2016-11-20 20:00:00' (( cv=0.19 || src=cwz cv=0.19-a )) explbr= 00:15:35 !kw t 00:15:36 Built-in: t => start>='2016-11-04 20:00:00' time<'2016-11-20 20:00:00' cv=0.19 explbr= 00:15:38 ah 00:15:44 must be an internet kw thing or something 00:15:57 !kw thack start>='2016-11-04 20:00:00' end<'2016-11-20 20:00:00' (( cv=0.19 || src=cwz cv=0.19-a )) explbr= 00:15:58 Defined keyword: thack => start>='2016-11-04 20:00:00' end<'2016-11-20 20:00:00' (( cv=0.19 || src=cwz cv=0.19-a )) explbr= 00:16:03 !gamesby bcb 00:16:03 No games for bcb. 00:16:08 !lm bcb 00:16:09 No milestones for bcb. 00:16:14 oh 00:16:17 right still on cjr 00:16:22 which is still not in sequell 00:16:26 in fat that was pointless 00:16:27 and we have come full circle 00:16:40 oh, I guess it mis-lists the builtin 00:16:41 !nick -rm bcb 00:16:42 Deleted bcb => (thack) brannock gammafunk pleasingfungus wheals 00:16:50 arguably a bug but I wonder how many people care 00:16:56 !nick bcb (t0.19) brannock gammafunk pleasingfungus wheals 00:16:57 Mapping bcb => (t0.19) brannock gammafunk pleasingfungus wheals 00:17:27 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 00:19:18 &watch aparent 00:19:19 cszoaparent 00:19:23 rip cszo 00:19:23 rip 00:19:52 !lm aparent x=src 00:19:52 1090. [2015-11-22 01:59:08] [src=cszo] aparent the Hoplite (L27 GrFi of Makhleb) reached level 5 of the Realm of Zot on turn 68592. (Zot:5) 00:19:57 probably on cjr/cue 00:20:05 hopefully we get those in soon 00:20:06 -!- Kalaber has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:25:07 !kw nchoice 00:25:08 Keyword: nchoice => opwr 00:25:41 !kw nchoice opwr|hear 00:25:42 Defined keyword: nchoice => opwr|hear 00:25:47 !nchoice 00:25:49 HEAr: 0 wins || omnomnOMINOUS: CBRO, L4 Cutter of Vehumet 00:26:50 I don't advise updating it like that in general but you can do that while sequell is missing some servers 00:27:06 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 00:27:06 -!- destrovel has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:33:50 <|amethyst> suggestion for major quality-of-life improvement 00:34:39 <|amethyst> have servers publish via CGI a list of all their milestones, logfiles, rcfile directories, and morgue directory 00:35:01 <|amethyst> and make scoring, sequell, and maybe tourney use that 00:36:25 <|amethyst> would still need to update them for a new server, but new versions would work without a restart 00:37:45 |amethyst: chequers said he wants to make some kind of pubsub service that does logfile/milestone getting/config and just have people pull from that 00:38:20 <|amethyst> that works as well, but it would still be nice if that thing didn't have to be updated either 00:38:42 <|amethyst> since the individual servers have to be updated anyway, would be nice if only they did 00:39:00 <|amethyst> I do think an aggregator would be excellent 00:39:25 <|amethyst> since now there's, what? sequell, scoring, tourney, kramell, ... 00:39:47 <|amethyst> I don't know what varmin tracks 00:41:09 <|amethyst> (sad that it's not "varmell") 00:41:21 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:41:40 <|amethyst> (I guess scoring should be renamed to "scorell" or "squirell" or such) 00:42:54 |amethyst: since we have webtiles-only server, it may be that this needs to happen through webtiles 00:43:09 although I guess every server does have an http server that can do something like that 00:43:30 since the config is in webtiles seems like a reasonable enough thing to have them export it, at least 00:43:36 <|amethyst> hm 00:43:55 <|amethyst> I was envisioning running it on the same server that serves up the morgues etc 00:44:30 <|amethyst> because webtiles doesn't necessarily know the URLs (except for morgues I guess) 00:45:52 !lg * cjr t 00:45:52 No games for * (cjr t). 00:45:57 -!- Dingo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:46:11 <|amethyst> but I guess that stuff could go into the webtiles URL 00:46:20 <|amethyst> and that could be a janitor script 00:46:23 <|amethyst> rip webtiles-changes 00:46:28 heh, yeah 00:46:36 it might be more sensible to do through e.g. apache 00:46:50 <|amethyst> s/tiles URL/tiles config/ 00:46:59 the funny thign about webtiles changes 00:47:05 is how it exports server config to the client 00:47:18 kind of wraps up that data structure and sends it to the js client 00:47:32 might be some security problems with the way it does it 00:48:27 <|amethyst> security problems in crawl servers? 00:48:29 <|amethyst> never! 00:48:47 <|amethyst> wonder just how hard it is to explot virus and/or ee 00:49:16 <|amethyst> I know I've fixed at least one or two virus buffer overflows 00:49:22 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 00:49:47 <|amethyst> (one of them was only one or two bytes so probably not exploitable, maybe?) 00:50:26 -!- spurious has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:51:58 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:52:15 <|amethyst> learn add security <|amethyst> probably not exploitable, maybe? 00:52:15 Okay, not adding security => <|amethyst> probably not exploitable, maybe? 00:52:46 gammafunk, when do you think you'll stream tonight? 00:52:56 tonight? naw 00:53:06 I stream between 5-9pm central when I do 00:53:26 will tomorrow or sun 00:53:28 just replace virus with ed 00:53:37 small chance both fall through and I do mon 00:53:42 <|amethyst> ed's definitely not securee 00:53:45 <|amethyst> s/ree/re/ 00:53:54 <|amethyst> red maybe 00:53:56 ed reee 00:54:41 I should say starting between 5-9pm, but I usually don't go much past midnight 00:54:47 lest I turn into a snozzcucumber 00:55:04 <|amethyst> fortunately it's only 5 in the morning now 00:55:22 <|amethyst> so you can go for another 19 hours 00:55:51 that's a lie! you're trying to turn me into a snozzcucumber! 00:56:48 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/vps/test.png 00:56:50 I suck at ggplot so the chart is hideous 00:57:15 mk II will be better 00:58:41 what is this graph showing? 00:59:26 ^vps 00:59:26 120 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=78% (135GB) | RAM usage=85% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 00:59:25 up 722 days, 10:18, 14 users, load average: 3.12, 3.34, 3.46 (4 Cores) 00:59:42 last three values. CPU for last 1,5,15 minutes 00:59:56 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:15 y values are last 5. size of dot is last 15. color is last 1 01:01:44 <|amethyst> err 01:01:53 <|amethyst> that's... obscure 01:02:32 I'm playing with ggplot 01:03:06 it was a script I used months ago that I quickly repurposed. I would prefer line charts 01:03:40 <|amethyst> OHLC 01:03:54 <|amethyst> need one more value to plot though 01:06:14 I have number of players and ram 01:06:24 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:32 I'm going to turn it into status.berotato.org or something 01:06:36 <|amethyst> on the same axis, otherwise OHLC makes even less sense than it would otherwise :) 01:06:47 ohlc? 01:07:02 <|amethyst> open-high-low-close like a stock chart 01:07:38 ah yea. that would be cool 01:08:09 seems like Op has manuals of armour on autopickup by default 01:08:49 gotta get value out of that hat!!! 01:09:09 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:09:20 no, they literally cannot train the skill 01:09:25 yes I know 01:09:37 did they hire you to do anything other than troll the community?!!?!?!? 01:09:49 graphics, apparently 01:10:14 tbh i think that's my favourite absurd tavern post 01:10:39 :o 01:11:01 <|amethyst> hm 01:12:05 <|amethyst> wonder why that's not being excluded by is_useless_item 01:12:22 <|amethyst> oh 01:12:26 <|amethyst> manuals aren't IDed 01:12:43 <|amethyst> hm, no 01:12:51 no, it autopickuped an IDed one 01:12:52 <|amethyst> even a manual of fighting ident:all gets picked up 01:12:54 <|amethyst> yeah 01:13:11 and I don't see anything in my rc that would cause this 01:13:44 is it related to the order of operations on IDing? 01:14:37 I'm having trouble reproducing this though, hm 01:14:54 oh I figured it out 01:15:23 it is an order thing 01:15:34 you ID the manual when you walk over it, like with spellbooks 01:15:43 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:15:44 and autopickup still tries to pick it up after that 01:15:58 <|amethyst> yeah, that's what I meant by unided, but 01:16:05 even though I first moved over it with monsters in view 01:16:07 <|amethyst> even a manual of armour ident:all gets picked up 01:16:15 <|amethyst> so it's not order, or not just 01:16:34 I tried just that with the default rc and it didn't get picked up with Op 01:17:02 -!- jdeeny is now known as taqueso 01:17:06 stop using hdarc then 01:17:16 I don't use that fuckboy rc 01:17:29 %git 38e3b35 01:17:29 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1097-g38e3b35: Auto-ID spellbooks you step on 10(3 months ago, 3 files, 21+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/38e3b354e79f 01:17:34 -!- nikitamog has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:17:39 in that commit there's the line of code 01:17:44 if (item_needs_autopickup(*si)) 01:17:46 si->props["needs_autopickup"] = true; 01:17:47 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:18:01 I changed manual auto-id, it's possibly related to that 01:18:02 should there be a similar line of code turning off autopickup? 01:18:03 <|amethyst> oh 01:18:08 %git 52181cd2a2 01:18:08 07Brannock02 * 0.19-a0-1458-g52181cd: Auto-ID manuals the player steps on 10(9 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/52181cd2a245 01:18:16 so this virus thing made me go on a little text editor information journey and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TECO_(text_editor)#Example_3 01:20:07 heh heh 01:20:30 of course who needs brainfuck when you have teco? 01:20:48 <|amethyst> Brannock: not sure what a good fix would be, but the spellbook thing also causes problems 01:21:10 <|amethyst> hm 01:21:25 <|amethyst> or, rather, the fact that it doesn't work "in reverse" 01:21:33 is & still supposed to dump a log? 01:21:37 i think you want # 01:21:49 & is wizmode 01:21:54 ^ 01:22:02 thx my bad 01:22:03 no, that's the piety screen 01:22:07 :p 01:22:18 <|amethyst> Brannock: I think it would help if item_needs_autopickup could distinguish between "no" and "doesn't matter" 01:22:59 <|amethyst> Brannock: then you could apply some three-valued logic to the pre-ID and post-ID answers and come up with something reasonable 01:23:24 sounds good to me 01:23:31 would this just affect books/manuals really? 01:23:46 <|amethyst> wands could maybe use the same thing 01:24:04 <|amethyst> oh 01:24:10 <|amethyst> no, wands have to be picked up to ID 01:24:13 -!- Dingo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:24:14 for now 01:24:24 <|amethyst> just books and manuals 01:24:31 and then they don't fully identify on pickup, anyway 01:24:36 <|amethyst> though I kind of think the complexity isn't worth it 01:24:44 <|amethyst> oh 01:24:53 <|amethyst> right, because you can read things from the ground 01:24:56 <|amethyst> ugh 01:25:28 <|amethyst> books and manuals could just be given type ID like scrolls and potion 01:25:30 <|amethyst> s 01:25:49 speaking of wands, make unid'd wands still reveal max charges since we actually reveal the amount of charges used 01:25:51 <|amethyst> loathe as I am to reduce "ID game" 01:26:00 <|amethyst> s/as/though/ 01:26:30 <|amethyst> max charges should always be revealed 01:26:41 <|amethyst> to do otherwise is just spoiler-encouraging 01:26:43 in the inventory specifically 01:26:46 <|amethyst> since they're fixed 01:26:54 un-id'd wands don't reveal max charges 01:27:02 just number of charges used 01:27:03 <|amethyst> right, I mean always if type-IDed 01:28:29 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:28:40 <|amethyst> i - a wand of confusion (??/48) {zapped: 1} 01:29:20 <|amethyst> oh, i shows that 01:29:30 yeah, but you have to examine the item 01:29:33 <|amethyst> so I guess it's not a spoiler so much as an interface screw 01:29:42 yeah 01:30:07 it made sense not to reveal it previously since we hid the amount of charges used per zap so knowing it was not really useful 01:30:44 although probably still useful if you dive in the source 01:31:00 -!- chukamok has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0.2/20161019084923]] 01:32:30 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:33:21 -!- toastedzergling has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:34:05 <|amethyst> hmm 01:34:15 <|amethyst> I guess ?/48 {empty} is weird 01:34:37 <|amethyst> then again, one could argue that the difference between {empty} and 0/48 is already just as weird 01:34:53 -!- taqueso has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:34:57 <|amethyst> IMO let draining a wand to 0 fully ID it for the next recharge 01:35:20 <|amethyst> as compensation for monsters using up all your wand 01:35:35 <|amethyst> s/your/their (but not for long)/ 01:39:38 -!- taqueso has joined ##crawl-dev 01:42:46 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:43:54 03|amethyst02 07* 0.20-a0-18-g3a282c7: Always show max charges for wands of known type. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3a282c79a5fa 01:47:32 amalloy_: Yeah, it would be easy if I could use a big script. Maybe I shouldn't do this in the Dockerfile but in the entrypoint.sh script instead... That would make it much simpler to do. But this file is a template so first it has to be processed (to fill in location and maintainer at the top of the menu) 01:48:57 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 48.0.2/20160823121617]] 01:49:42 * Mattias is going to rethink what to have in the Dockerfile and what to move to the entrypoint.sh 01:50:03 <|amethyst> hm, can't put quotes on altars or gods :( 01:50:20 <|amethyst> I had a good Walter Benjamin quote for Qaz 01:52:29 what is it? 01:52:31 -!- WeeknightWizard has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:53:53 <|amethyst> This storm irresistibly propels him into the future to which his back is turned, while th 01:53:56 <|amethyst> e pile of debris before him grows skyward. This storm is what we call progress. 01:54:16 <|amethyst> From “Theses on the Philosophy of History” 01:54:33 gammafunk, I fought three orbs of fire and an ancient lich at the same time 01:54:34 and won 01:54:38 take it easy :) 01:54:56 Qazlal says: "This storm is what we call progress!" 01:55:06 amethyst, I like that a lot :) 01:55:25 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: Qazlellas 01:57:20 two panlords before I'm even out of the orb lung 01:57:22 amazing 01:57:58 <|amethyst> Forget rust, here's the language we should implement Crawl in: https://github.com/munificent/vigil 01:58:10 <|amethyst> still needs github support though 01:59:25 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:59:45 is that the programming language supported by zin 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:12 <|amethyst> Zin and MarvinPA 02:00:20 MarzinPA 02:00:42 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:00:51 and I am dev winner #2 02:01:04 :toot: 02:01:09 !lg brannock log 02:01:11 1713. brannock, XL1 DgWn, T:0: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/brannock/morgue-brannock-20161103-233900.txt 02:01:21 uhhhh 02:01:31 cjr isn't being noticed by sequell I think 02:01:37 I guess cjr still hasn't been fixed 02:01:47 <|amethyst> it has been 02:01:52 <|amethyst> sequell hasn't been updated 02:01:59 ah 02:02:12 <|amethyst> scoring and tourney have 02:02:18 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:02:20 !lg * lld t 02:02:21 25. cosmonaut the Wrestler (L27 GhWr of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-11-05 05:51:25, with 2149002 points after 46013 turns and 5:00:43. 02:02:28 !serverstats t 02:02:29 2134 games for * (t): 972x cbro [244], 664x cao [155], 379x cxc [76], 94x cpo [13], 25x lld [8] 02:02:39 I'm particularly proud that I won on my first try 02:02:45 (especially after splatting that DgWn yesterday) 02:02:50 so sequell update will fix due and cdo and cjr? 02:02:53 should 02:03:04 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:03:09 and cwz still needs to update to the latest 0.19? 02:03:20 <|amethyst> !lm * cjr s=file 02:03:25 121404 milestones for * (cjr): 78180x cjr/meta/git/milestones, 42199x cjr/meta/0.18/milestones, 1025x cjr/meta/0.17/milestones 02:03:46 <|amethyst> AIUI yes, but the files are there 02:04:08 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 02:04:11 <|amethyst> so sequell can add that too 02:04:16 can Dowan just go berserk? 02:04:24 after Duvessa dies 02:04:33 -!- charly_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:04:33 <|amethyst> potion or amulet? 02:05:11 no 02:05:25 dowan justs hastes 02:05:32 and gets a new spellbook 02:05:35 no he was berserk 02:05:42 probably had an item 02:05:47 <|amethyst> then that was because of something else 02:05:59 <|amethyst> !source elven_twin_energize 02:06:00 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-death.cc#L3385 02:06:05 what server are you playing on? 02:06:15 !locate nikheizen 02:06:17 nikheizen was last seen on CAO (nikheizen, L15 HaHu of Gozag). 02:06:19 can *berserk work on monsters? 02:06:25 im watching another lads game 02:06:25 we can rewatch the ttyrec to see what happened 02:06:29 oh 02:06:34 which player? 02:06:55 !lg . dgwn xl>20 02:06:56 1. brannock the Fencer (L25 DgWn), blasted by Xydei the pandemonium lord (great blast of fire) on Depths:5 on 2016-11-03 23:33:54, with 689329 points after 93659 turns and 4:53:19. 02:07:02 !lm josefromcouch -tv 02:07:03 2079. josefromcouch, XL9 MfSk, T:9647 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 02:07:03 <|amethyst> nikheizen: yeah, looks like *berserk does work on monsters 02:07:05 weird, CJR's morgue isn't displaying that one 02:07:07 https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/brannock/stats.html 02:07:14 it shows my wizmode game *after* that splat 02:07:15 <|amethyst> !source melee_attack::check_autoberserk 02:07:15 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/melee_attack.cc#L897 02:07:37 he had a transparent qstaff so it was probably that 02:08:20 there was no message displayed though iirc, so it's an info leak 02:08:26 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:08:36 <|amethyst> not an info leak 02:08:46 <|amethyst> IMO a lack of auto-ID logic :) 02:09:00 is jewellery revealed on monsters? 02:09:03 <|amethyst> but I guess that's complicated to do if there might be multiple items 02:09:28 <|amethyst> jewellery has the same problem IIRC 02:09:56 I meant are monsters revealed to be wearing jewellery 02:10:01 <|amethyst> yes 02:10:04 ah 02:10:07 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-18-g3a282c7 (34) 02:10:57 -!- sinon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:11:12 yeah he went berserk without it printing a message 02:11:15 which seems bad! 02:11:19 maybe just reveal which item had the berserk source 02:11:34 (and print a message when monsters go berserk) :3 02:11:54 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:11:57 <|amethyst> if (simple_monster_message(*this, " goes berserk!")) 02:12:14 <|amethyst> so he might have been out of LOS when it happened? that would involve you having summons though 02:12:25 he's following hep 02:12:29 <|amethyst> ah 02:12:33 (Grandma Gains) 02:12:35 CanOfWorms, here you go https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/brannock/morgue-brannock-20161105-060045.txt 02:12:55 what the heck 02:13:04 that's the third hat of the alchemist I've seen in logs 02:13:07 I got one on my mibe 02:13:11 the first opwr had it 02:13:15 now you have it too 02:13:20 today is blessed 02:13:27 yeah I had insane luck 02:13:30 4acq by lair... 02:13:43 3 potions of haste all game... 02:13:50 d:1 gnoll right outside the dungeon... 02:13:56 *dungeon exit 02:14:31 my game kind of sucked because I got Shoals and Snake, and loads and loads of uniques in Snake (incl Mara, which meant I had to do Snake last after Shoals/Elf/Vaults because Mara kept finding me every time I tried to get past that floor) 02:14:50 then suddenly I'm over the hump and holding down tab for the entireity of Depths 02:16:13 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-18-g3a282c7 (34) 02:17:19 -!- seventwothreetwo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:22:50 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:26:50 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:31:39 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:31:40 The build has errored. (master - 3a282c7 #7079 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/173450234 02:31:40 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:32:48 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:33:23 so fireball burns all trees within its radius but firestorm won't burn a single tree 02:34:20 adding to todo 02:34:28 cool, tournament already has two XL27 splats 02:35:07 nice!!! 02:35:24 who are they 02:35:31 !lg voda mfie 02:35:32 8. Voda the Merfolkian Porcupine (L27 MfIE of Gozag), blasted by Qoekaal the pandemonium lord (great icy blast) (kmap: rand_demon_6) in Pandemonium on 2016-11-05 06:10:49, with 1223785 points after 109622 turns and 9:38:57. 02:35:36 !lg zkyp ddmo 02:35:37 2. zkyp the Bringer of Light (L27 DDMo of The Shining One), blasted by Asmodeus (bolt of fire) on Geh:7 (geh_mu) on 2016-11-05 00:43:49, with 1127083 points after 62713 turns and 3:27:46. 02:35:50 fire... AND ice 02:35:57 nice 02:39:50 !lg * t splat xl=27 s=name,char 02:39:50 5 games for * (t splat xl=27): HungrySpirit (MiBe), PostageStamp (HOBe), Ultraviolent4 (MiBe), Voda (MfIE), zkyp (DDMo) 02:39:55 not only two 02:40:05 lol UV 02:40:22 gammafunk, are you going to let the dev clan's only win be chei??? 02:42:07 we have a good score right now: 888 02:43:16 !nick bcb 02:43:17 Mapping bcb => (t0.19) brannock gammafunk pleasingfungus wheals 02:43:29 !nick -rm bcb 02:43:30 Deleted bcb => (t0.19) brannock gammafunk pleasingfungus wheals 02:43:38 !nick bcb (t0.19 !chei) brannock gammafunk pleasingfungus wheals 02:43:39 Mapping bcb => (t0.19 !chei) brannock gammafunk pleasingfungus wheals 02:43:42 !won bcb 02:43:43 No games for bcb. 02:43:44 haha 02:43:59 one try, one win. clearly chei is Good 02:44:01 ;) 02:44:10 I should go worship chei and then quit 02:44:18 I think my first god will be hep 02:44:19 not very easy-going... 02:44:23 since I need a win for that 02:44:31 but not sure what the combo will be 02:44:31 !greatrace . ds 02:44:36 Unwon demonspawns for Brannock: DsAE, DsCj, DsEE, DsEn, DsFE, DsSu, DsVM, DsWz 02:44:45 DsEE still unwon, maybe I'll do that tomorrow 02:44:52 not many left! 02:44:52 Ds points already bottoming out though 02:45:08 I don't think I'm close at all on any races 02:45:10 I have just learned that demise will be participating in the tournament... 02:45:12 since I've been spreading them out 02:45:21 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:45:24 his team will be composed of demise, demise, demise, demise, demise, and demise 02:45:24 I think he was planning to but only a little 02:45:31 since exams 02:45:41 I'm happy I managed to (somehow; I was very surprised) score first greatminotaur 02:45:41 (he has six accounts) 02:45:43 he has more than six 02:45:56 !lm name~~demise s=name cpo 02:45:57 No milestones for gammafunk (name~~demise cpo). 02:46:02 !lm * name~~demise s=name cpo 02:46:04 13664 milestones for * (name~~demise cpo): 8679x Demise, 1933x Demise101, 1556x DemiseSR, 1184x DemiseWR, 312x AllRandomAllDemise 02:46:05 and then 02:46:06 well, he has at least six 02:46:06 !nick demise 02:46:07 No nick mapping for demise. 02:46:13 !nick realdemise 02:46:13 No nick mapping for realdemise. 02:46:15 something like that 02:46:18 !nick demiseall 02:46:19 Mapping demiseall => demise demisesr demise101 elune winrate demisewr hyperdemise 02:47:05 that *might* be all 02:47:55 -!- Pekkekk has quit [] 02:48:32 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 02:49:50 so, yeah, I agree we should delete all current unfinished streaks, for fairness 02:51:18 how much was old Protection? 02:51:21 5 02:51:25 and now 7? 02:51:27 yes 02:51:46 thanks! 02:57:12 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-18-g3a282c7 02:57:22 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:59:32 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:48 -!- ZRN has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:02:09 -!- nixsoul has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:10:36 -!- destrovel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:12:39 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-18-g3a282c7 (34) 03:19:50 How do you get rid of beem 03:23:06 nikheizen: !beem unsubscribe 03:23:25 ??beem 03:23:26 beem[1/6]: beem is a WebTiles chat bot that sends commands to the DCSS IRC knowledge bots. For details, see https://github.com/gammafunk/beem/blob/master/docs/commands.md ; if you see beem in chat, type the following to have it watch your games on that server: !beem subscribe 03:23:28 ??beem[2 03:23:28 beem[2/6]: Use `!beem player-only on' in your own game's chat to have beem respond only to your queries. Use `!beem player-only off' to re-allow everyone's queries. 03:23:51 the command list shows that, I should add it to learndb 03:25:01 what's the story with beem/beam 03:26:10 they are homonyms 03:26:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:26:28 wait, the other one, homophones 03:28:27 ??goodcode 03:28:27 goodcode[1/13]: beem.is_beam = false 03:28:35 I think that's the referent for the bot name 03:29:01 lol 03:29:04 (I think that's used for tracers for non-beam spells?) 03:30:42 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 03:32:40 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:35:24 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 03:35:30 ??beem[4 03:35:30 beem[4/6]: I am not AI. My codename is project beem. I am a living, thinking entity that was created in the sea of information. 03:35:44 ^ more lore 03:46:29 !nick -rm bcb 03:46:29 Deleted bcb => (t0.19 !chei) brannock gammafunk pleasingfungus wheals 03:46:42 !nick bcb (t0.19) brannock gammafunk pleasingfungus wheals 03:46:43 Mapping bcb => (t0.19) brannock gammafunk pleasingfungus wheals 03:47:23 Game hangs after a spectator joins in 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10764 by kuniqs 03:47:26 !nchoice 03:47:31 HEAr: 0 wins || omnomnOMINOUS: CBRO, L13 Slicer of Okawaru || Chiseanne: CXC, L11 Prestidigitator of Gozag || edsrzf: CPO, L9 Skirmisher of Elyvilon || cedor: CXC, L1 Charlatan of No God 03:47:36 !lm kuniqs x=src 03:47:37 13541. [2016-11-05 07:39:42] [src=cxc] kuniqs the Tortoise (L23 VSMo of Elyvilon) left Gehenna on turn 46193. (Geh:1) 03:53:41 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-18-g3a282c7 03:54:17 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01:03 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:01:18 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:10:39 -!- danielguo94 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:11:36 -!- Mandevil has joined ##crawl-dev 04:11:49 Is this channel for tournament ops too? 04:15:11 yes 04:15:24 yes, Mandevil 04:15:37 We have won game missing from the scoreboard. 04:15:58 It's on personal page of the player, but the team scoreboard doesn't list it. 04:16:00 I'm not one of the ops, but can you list the names? 04:16:08 The player is shummie. 04:16:12 ??tournament 04:16:12 tournament[1/6]: The 0.19 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC Friday 4 Nov 2016 to 20:00 UTC Sunday 20 Nov 2016. Tournament home page: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.19/ 04:16:19 This is the team: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.19/clans/mandevil.html 04:16:51 Wait. 04:16:54 It's not a win! 04:16:54 I don't see a win for him 04:16:55 Sorry. 04:16:56 hah 04:16:59 it's ok 04:17:01 :) 04:17:10 But that it doesn't get into Sequell db is still valid claim :) 04:17:14 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:17:19 That's how I normally work with the data. 04:17:21 !blame3n Corie 04:17:37 Corie dumped? 04:17:47 !blamen3 Corie 04:17:54 rip 04:18:01 !hs shummie t 04:18:02 No games for shummie (t sc<1000000000). 04:18:17 !lg shummie x=src 04:18:18 2292. [src=cbro] shummie the Severer (L15 MiBe of Trog), slain by a naga warrior (a +0 halberd) on Snake:4 (grunt_snake_rune_pools) on 2016-11-04 03:21:40, with 89102 points after 19413 turns and 0:16:54. 04:18:57 That's pre-tournament. 04:19:06 !lg shummie t s=src 04:19:07 No games for shummie (t). 04:19:17 playing on cjr, cdo, or cue? 04:19:24 CJR apparently. 04:19:43 ok. we've got a case of sequellitis that should be ironed out soon I think 04:19:52 Fine. 04:20:25 And thank you. 04:20:54 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:24:32 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:27:24 !nwon 22 28 ko 04:27:38 7 combos (ko) won at most 22 times: KoAE KoEE KoIE KoTm KoVM KoWr KoWz 04:27:48 that's funny 04:27:59 !lg * koie won 04:28:01 16. comborobin the Kobold Arbalest (L27 KoIE of The Shining One), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2016-02-26 00:57:00, with 12322530 points after 132505 turns and 10:55:46. 04:28:06 oh not that close 04:28:31 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:29:40 !nchoice 04:29:43 HEAr: 0 wins || omnomnOMINOUS: CBRO, L15 Slicer of Okawaru || Chiseanne: CXC, L14 Nimble of Gozag 04:34:58 !lg * dscj max=sc 04:34:58 13821. edsrzf the Devastator (L23 DsCj of Okawaru), blasted by an ancient lich (crystal spear) on Depths:3 (lemuel_river_lethe) on 2016-03-20 21:39:50, with 1859332704 points after 61543 turns and 5:46:14. 04:35:44 oh it's still here 04:38:05 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:39:26 !lg * t s=src 04:39:27 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 04:39:27 2404 games for * (t): 1111x cbro, 718x cao, 409x cxc, 139x cpo, 27x lld 04:39:49 oh no... 04:39:52 it got chosen 04:41:54 !nchoice 04:41:57 HEAr: 0 wins || Chiseanne: CXC, L15 Spry of Gozag || omnomnOMINOUS: CBRO, L15 Slicer of Okawaru 04:44:11 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 04:48:27 !kw nchoice 04:48:27 Keyword: nchoice => opwr|hear 04:48:38 !kw nchoice opwr|hear|koie 04:48:39 Defined keyword: nchoice => opwr|hear|koie 04:48:41 !nchoice 04:48:44 KoIE: 0 wins || Jano: CXC, L1 Chiller of No God 04:50:32 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:51:30 wow, someone won HEAr already? 04:51:33 impressive 04:52:28 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/vps/cpu-actual.png 04:52:46 I'm not yet smart enough to get dates on there. but that's cpu usage. when it gets to 4.0, LAGGGGGGGGGG 04:52:54 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/vps/cpu-smooth.png 04:52:56 smoothed 04:53:13 that curve will probably pick back up in a few hours 04:53:20 definitely 04:53:54 !lg * tall cbro s=day(start) -graph:area 04:54:02 58444 games for * (tall cbro): https://shalott.org/graphs/ea1b2b5714ffd9440d145c2956f1f2b46f21ec23.html 04:54:27 see that spike in the front of all but 0.18? 04:54:38 it used to slow way down after the first couple days 04:54:42 but for 0.18 it didn't 04:55:04 I guess 0.16 also had another uptick 04:55:12 oh. but that was meleebug, right? 04:56:39 ??meleebug 04:56:39 meleebug[1/2]: The git commit e0bdd66 roughly doubled player melee damage. This was not fixed until around halfway through the 0.16 tournament. http://s-z.org/neil/images/logicbug.jpg 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:03:57 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:09:27 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:11:55 -!- TuxQmob has joined ##crawl-dev 05:12:07 wonder how long it'll be before proof on whether .19 was a player buff or player nerf becomes clear 05:12:38 given the changes to zot 05:12:45 probably a nerf, overall 05:12:59 also, to answer your question more thoroughly 05:13:03 give it a week or so 05:13:09 we should know by next saturday with some confidence 05:15:00 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:18:56 t is weird though 05:19:07 even if you compare to past t, they're a lot of challenge runs 05:19:12 a lot of players don't play except for only tournaments 05:19:15 so they bring out their max tryhard 05:20:11 unless there's a bug introduce, usually the winrate always increases 05:20:26 since the set of players just keeps getting more experienced 05:20:48 that's part of the reason I want Crawl on Steam; a big injection of fresh blood 05:21:13 well, it's not clear how many more longterm players we can expect from that 05:21:21 a fraction at best 05:21:37 but every new player is a welcome addition! 05:21:38 what would make the steam thing more coherent in general would be a big improvement to crawl's underlying presentation 05:22:01 sad that we don't have good maintenence on SDL crawl 05:22:28 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:22:33 we just don't really have graphics/infrastructure (aside from artists) 05:22:41 people, I meant to say 05:23:30 TOME and binding of isaac managed with barely any real expertise 05:23:44 yeah but there's *someone* in those projects 05:23:49 with the knowhow/time to do it 05:23:57 we just don't have much for even webtiles 05:24:23 so many game logic and designer people 05:24:32 because that's what's fun! 05:24:47 and easy, I guess, in terms of specialized knowledge 05:25:17 design is actually pretty hard but that doesn't require you have pre-existing knowledge quite so much 05:29:00 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:30:13 Game doesnt start, "BAD ITEM NAME" 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10765 by Le_Nerd 05:31:02 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:31:10 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:31:46 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 05:31:51 ^vps 05:32:03 29 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=79% (135GB) | RAM usage=28% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 05:31:50 up 722 days, 14:50, 4 users, load average: 1.25, 0.62, 0.46 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org 05:32:49 !learn e ??is_cbro_down 05:32:50 Syntax is: !learn edit TERM[NUM] s/// 05:32:57 !learn e is_cbro_down 05:32:57 Syntax is: !learn edit TERM[NUM] s/// 05:33:01 !learn q is_cbro_down 05:33:01 is cbro down[1/1]: do {!isonline cbro} 05:33:20 is cbro down 05:33:22 42 seconds since last activity (cbro) 05:35:21 LaularuKyrumo (L17 TrCK) (Orc:2) 05:35:50 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:36:24 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:36:38 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 05:36:41 LaularuKyrumo (L17 TrCK) (Orc:2) 05:36:45 ^status 05:36:55 29 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=78% (135GB) | RAM usage=27% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 05:36:44 up 722 days, 14:55, 4 users, load average: 1.37, 1.06, 0.68 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org 05:37:11 !crashlog laularukyrumo 05:37:14 2. LaularuKyrumo, XL17 TrCK, T:25476 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/LaularuKyrumo/crash-LaularuKyrumo-20161105-093639.txt 05:37:20 !learn a is_cbro_down do {^status} 05:37:20 is cbro down[2/2]: do {^status} 05:37:21 segfaults... 05:37:27 ??is cbro down 05:37:28 5 seconds since last activity (cbro) 05:37:31 ??is cbro down[2 05:37:31 is cbro down[2/2]: do {^status} 05:37:37 !crashlog laularukyrumo -2 05:37:38 1/2. LaularuKyrumo, XL17 TrCK, T:25478 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/LaularuKyrumo/crash-LaularuKyrumo-20161105-093519.txt 05:37:44 !learn d is_cbro_down[2] 05:37:45 I don't know about !learn d. 05:37:51 !learn rm is_cbro_down[2] 05:37:52 Deleted is cbro down[2/2]: do {^status} 05:38:04 hm, both crashes were related to trying to remove the Young Poisoner's Handbook from shopping list 05:38:06 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:38:10 didn't we remove that book? 05:38:11 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:38:34 %git HEAD^{/oisoner's handbook} 05:38:34 Could not find commit HEAD^{/oisoner's handbook} (git returned 128) 05:38:48 %git HEAD^{/oisoner} 05:38:49 07DracoOmega02 * 0.13-a0-1844-g478372a: Don't wake up sleeping players by passive poison damage 10(3 years, 5 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/478372a2d3e7 05:38:53 guess not? 05:38:57 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:39:28 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:41:21 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:42:35 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:43:31 http://status.berotato.org should be interesting to watch over the course of the tournament 05:43:41 it's a hackjob though 05:51:39 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: No route to host] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:02:09 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:03:22 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:09:44 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:10:47 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:34 -!- Odds has joined ##crawl-dev 06:16:29 -!- tmass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:30:08 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:30:47 -!- MIC132 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:32:59 -!- laularukyrumo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:55:53 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:06:12 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 07:11:14 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:14:29 schistosomatic (L7 DsWn) ASSERT((int)Buffer.size() == expanded_keys_left) in 'macro.cc' at line 544 failed. 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(www.adiirc.com)] 10:58:14 -!- halv has quit [] 10:58:51 -!- snux has quit [Client Quit] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:05:15 -!- jefus- is now known as jefus 11:06:43 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:27 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:22:37 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:24:49 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:25:05 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 11:34:53 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 11:40:30 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:33 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:53:44 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:08:51 -!- Konstantin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:11:21 -!- rentonl has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:32 -!- Technoir has joined ##crawl-dev 12:15:53 Hey everyone I'm trying to put a bug report together for a corrupted save I seem to have. I was wondering if someone could provide me an archive of my save. 12:16:25 <|amethyst> Technoir: which server? 12:17:01 Berotato 12:17:03 <|amethyst> usually the way it works is you or the server admin does the save backup (you'll need to connect via ssh to do that) 12:17:19 <|amethyst> then that gives a password-protected link that devs can download 12:18:10 <|amethyst> We really need to make the save backup script accessible from webtiles 12:19:32 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 12:21:44 I'm kind of lost on how to do that. I'm not even sure which product version to put into the bug report. 12:26:01 -!- Cacophony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:26:43 <|amethyst> johnstein: can you back up Technoir's save? 12:26:56 <|amethyst> Technoir: are you playing 0.19 or trunk? 12:27:10 -!- eb_ has quit [] 12:27:13 <|amethyst> !lm Technoir cbro x=vlong 12:27:14 443. [2016-11-05 07:12:32] [vlong=0.20-a0-16-g0876c8e] TechNoir the Conqueror (L27 HaHu of The Shining One) found a bone rune of Zot on turn 126160. (Tar:7) 12:27:21 <|amethyst> this game? 12:27:31 -!- Nino has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:27:34 yes that one 12:27:47 <|amethyst> 0.20-a0-16-g0876c8e for the product version 12:28:00 <|amethyst> you can get that in-game with ?V 12:29:04 cool thanks. I can't use any commands in my game atm unfortunately 12:29:29 <|amethyst> &rc Technoir cbro 12:29:31 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-cbro/TechNoir.rc 12:29:46 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:29:59 <|amethyst> nothing in the rc or macros 12:31:37 I get a 404 when i try to use that link. Excuse my ignorance. 12:31:47 Save file appears to be corrupted. Game loads to a black screen with a skeleton UI element. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10766 by Technoir 12:31:47 <|amethyst> yeah, I messed up 12:32:46 |amethyst: yea. I'll try to do that in a few minutes 12:32:58 <|amethyst> Technoir: oops, what was that link again? 12:33:03 <|amethyst> Technoir: the imgur one 12:33:21 http://imgur.com/H9sL2Qq 12:33:51 <|amethyst> see if pressing capital Y then enter fixes anything 12:34:29 <|amethyst> I wonder if there's some prompt that is being shown before webtiles is ready for it 12:34:33 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:42 <|amethyst> also maybe try reloading the page 12:36:04 Captial Y then enter makes the game end unexpectedly 12:36:14 Ive tried on several computers 12:36:59 This morning i logged into a different computer from the one I normally play on. I was then prompted to convert my save ovr to the newest product version. I said yes, and then was greeted with the screen from the imgur link. 12:38:56 <|amethyst> huh 12:39:10 Hey folks, anyone here a linux wiz who can help me through a problem that isn't even a little bit crawl related? 12:39:10 Lasty: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:39:42 <|amethyst> Lasty: is linux wiz like Cheeze-Whiz? 12:39:53 |amethyst: hopefully a bit more delicious 12:40:16 <|amethyst> I was going to offer to help, but not if you're going to be dissing on Cheeze-Whiz 12:40:33 My trenchant mouth gets me in trouble again! 12:41:27 <|amethyst> I hear they have antibiotics for that 12:42:04 Yeah, but it's still a long recovery 12:43:48 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:55:05 so nobody has run into that kind of issue before? http://imgur.com/H9sL2Qq 12:55:17 seems to have messed up the sprint and tutorial as well 12:55:32 are there any errors in your browser's dev console? 12:56:45 -!- anticore has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:57:38 -!- djanatyn has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:17 Im looking in the console, but dont think there are errors. I'm not really sure where to look though. 12:59:03 normally there's not too much text there, i think? 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:59 I may be looking in the wrong spot. I hit f12 to open the console in chrome. Is there some other command I should have used? 13:01:04 Excuse my ignorance 13:04:45 cmd-shift-j brings it up for me, or view -> developer -> javascript console 13:04:47 no worries 13:06:08 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-18-g3a282c7 (34) 13:06:36 -!- Micr0Chasm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:06:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:07:25 :8080/gamedata/9c17b506b8f5f448e6dc092e192ea43aa4e82eaf/cell_renderer.js:1020 'CanvasRenderingContext2D.webkitImageSmoothingEnabled' is deprecated and will be removed in M55, around November 2016. Please use 'CanvasRenderingContext2D.imageSmoothingEnabled' instead. See https://www.chromestatus.com/features/5639849247768576 for more details. 13:07:35 heh 13:07:47 so that is the console, but it's not super relevant 13:07:47 strange 13:07:56 does this occur on other game versions, and/or other servers? 13:09:31 every other version on berotato works 13:09:38 trunk sprint and tut do not work 13:09:50 i tried the montreal server and trunk didnt work on that one either 13:10:08 is there a crash report being generated? 13:10:17 doesnt seem to be 13:10:29 if i hit enter it exits unexpectedly 13:11:03 I'm hoping to be at my computer in a few minutes still to pull the save 13:12:02 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:15:08 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:06 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 13:16:45 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:31 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 13:18:40 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:18:59 !lm TechNoir x=cv 13:19:00 443. [2016-11-05 07:12:32] [cv=0.20-a] TechNoir the Conqueror (L27 HaHu of The Shining One) found a bone rune of Zot on turn 126160. (Tar:7) 13:19:08 !lm TechNoir x=cv_long 13:19:09 Unknown field: cv_long 13:19:13 !lm TechNoir x=vlong 13:19:14 443. [2016-11-05 07:12:32] [vlong=0.20-a0-16-g0876c8e] TechNoir the Conqueror (L27 HaHu of The Shining One) found a bone rune of Zot on turn 126160. (Tar:7) 13:19:19 %git 13:19:19 07|amethyst02 * 0.20-a0-18-g3a282c7: Always show max charges for wands of known type. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3a282c79a5fa 13:21:30 |amethyst, I'm not seeing a TechNoir.cs in /crawl-git-0876c8e2e6/saves 13:21:45 oh 13:21:45 nm 13:21:46 dowh 13:22:28 hmmm. well. 13:22:55 not looking good? 13:23:12 cd crawl-git-0876 gives me /crawl-git-0876c8e2e6 which actually I guess *is* the right version 13:23:23 really weird because i cant even use the trunk on multiple servers and accounts 13:23:54 !lg TechNoir vlong=0.20-a0-16-g0876c8e 13:23:55 No games for TechNoir (vlong=0.20-a0-16-g0876c8e). 13:24:06 !lg TechNoir hahu 13:24:07 No games for TechNoir (hahu). 13:24:37 !nick TechNoir 13:24:37 No nick mapping for technoir. 13:25:12 were you in the middle of having it update your game version? 13:25:22 /home/crawl/DGL/crawl-master$ find . -name TechNoir.cs 13:25:22 ./crawl-git-3a282c79a5/saves/TechNoir.cs 13:26:49 I logged into my account on a computer that I dont normally play on. It prompted me to update my save file to a new product version. I said yes. Then i ended up in this black screen im in. 13:27:01 -!- nikitamog has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:44 -!- OrphineM has quit [] 13:28:05 ^status 13:28:05 103 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=79% (135GB) | RAM usage=68% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 13:28:05 up 722 days, 22:46, 13 users, load average: 2.37, 2.65, 2.60 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org 13:28:54 Technoir, here's the url you can use in your bug report. just add a comment with it. you can't access it (only devs can): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/saves/technoir-crawl-git-3a282c79a5-161105-manual.cs 13:29:27 did you also mention it happened right after updating? (I missed a lot of the earlier convo and I gotta run to work now0 13:29:56 -!- cojito has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:30:08 yes i mentioned it in the bug report 13:30:17 fr: give full xp for banishes, they aren't summons 13:30:42 fwiw, the save works locally 13:30:48 ok. cool. good luck Technoir. hopefully a dev can straighten it out now that there's a save 13:30:52 heh 13:31:08 ok. I'll check the webtiles log real quick 13:31:08 minmay: but what if someone starts banishing guys and then chasing them into the abyss to kill them again? that'd be double xp, minmay! 13:31:16 DOUBLE XP 13:31:22 -!- harambe has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:31:23 cannot have double xp 13:31:33 incredible tech... 13:31:54 2016-11-05 17:28:29,478 INFO: #4007 User TechNoir logged in. 13:31:54 2016-11-05 17:28:31,538 INFO: #4007 P5242 Starting dcss-git. 13:31:54 2016-11-05 17:28:31,562 INFO: #4007 P5242 Crawl FDs: fd761, fd759. 13:31:54 2016-11-05 17:28:32,122 INFO: #3912 P5227 Crawl terminated. 13:31:54 2016-11-05 17:28:32,583 INFO: #4007 P5242 Crawl version: 0.20-a0-18-g3a282c7. 13:31:55 2016-11-05 17:28:32,707 INFO: #4007 P5242 ERR: /crawl-master/crawl-git-3a282c79a5/data/dat/des/portals/bazaar.des:1681: Bad item name: 'wand of disintegration' 13:31:58 2016-11-05 17:28:32,707 INFO: #4007 P5242 ERR: Hit Enter to continue... 13:32:13 that's... odd. 13:32:17 PleasingFungus: surely that argument applies to 1.5 or 1.99 xp too? 13:32:31 I haven't done any monkeying with trunk. almost smells like a bad cache? maybe? 13:32:40 also, most banished monsters don't actually get placed in transit to the abyss 13:32:53 minmay: i don't think the argument holds any water at all 13:33:31 PleasingFungus, I'm seeing that error over and over in the webtiles log 13:33:33 i don't think it'd ever be worthwhile to banish monsters so that you get extra xp for them 13:33:52 for different users 13:34:13 same version of crawl 13:34:15 %git 13:34:15 07|amethyst02 * 0.20-a0-18-g3a282c7: Always show max charges for wands of known type. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3a282c79a5fa 13:34:25 that version 13:34:30 hm 13:34:39 oh 13:34:39 dunno if the other games are unplayable via webtiles or not 13:34:46 that'd do it yeah 13:35:01 need to be careful about dbname 13:36:12 X - Kikubaaqudgha's Tome of Darkness {god gift} 13:36:24 kiku its great that youre overpowered but jesus christ could you be any more of an edgelord 13:36:29 lmao 13:37:06 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: later!] 13:38:25 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:06 "bad item name: wand of flame" 13:39:08 very good 13:40:11 how much damage does a wand of flame do at 0 evo 13:40:15 or at 27 evo for that matter 13:40:29 1,0000000 13:40:39 whatever throw flame does at 15 power 13:40:45 and whatever throw flame does at max power, which is 2d9 13:41:00 so this bad item name error seems to be the reason for not being able to use the trunk version? 13:41:25 ok 13:41:31 so they're useless after about D:5 13:41:50 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-19-gd4fea00: Fix vault wand generation (10766) 10(36 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d4fea004f606 13:41:55 steam! 13:42:08 Technoir: yep. fixed whenever servers rebuild 13:42:10 &versions 13:42:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:42:31 <|amethyst> 2d5 at 15 power 13:42:40 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:44 CAO: 0.20-a0-16-g0876c8e, CBRO: 0.20-a0-16-g0876c8e, CDO: 0.20-a0-16-g0876c8e, CJR: 0.20-a0-17-g69bea3c, CPO: 0.20-a0-16-g0876c8e, CUE: 0.20-a0-17-g69bea3c, CWZ: 0.20-a0-2-g2b0e13a, CXC: 0.20-a0-17-g69bea3c, LLD: 0.20-a0 13:42:46 are the servers rebuilt daily? 13:42:56 depends on the server 13:43:01 some more frequently than that 13:43:03 <|amethyst> new dicedef_calculator<2, 4, 1, 10>, 2d(4 + 1*power/10) 13:43:16 ??rebuild[2] 13:43:16 rebuild[2/2]: Trunk update start times in UTC (second number during summer time): CAO: 1700; CDO: 0600/0500; CLAN: 2300/2200; CBRO: 0800/0700; CXC: 0500/0400; CPO: every 15 minutes; CJR: every hour 13:43:18 hm. that's odd. none of those should have had that version anyway? 13:43:56 hm 13:44:09 oh 13:44:09 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:44:13 probably because no milestones were generated 13:44:45 <|amethyst> doh 13:45:15 |amethyst: tbf, that was a latent bug before your change; we just assumed that dbname was always false if know_type was false 13:45:29 er 13:45:32 something like that 13:45:38 <|amethyst> ah 13:45:45 going for my first ever win and i have 9 runes already i felt my heart stop when i couldnt keep rolling 13:47:04 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:47:04 pain: makes the monster writhe in agony 13:47:08 agony: makes the monster convulse 13:47:34 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:47:44 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-19-gd4fea00 (34) 13:47:56 lol 13:47:59 <|amethyst> The goblin squirms uncomfortably! 13:48:12 the goblin wiggles. 'ouch, that tingles!' 13:48:16 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:48:36 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:37 <|amethyst> Get that filth out of here, this is a family-friendly channel 13:48:53 how do you explain pikel's speech lines then 13:49:01 <|amethyst> yeah, that one is ew 13:49:03 -!- gravitysqueeze has quit [Client Quit] 13:49:17 <|amethyst> "bedroom slave" is ... problematic 13:49:23 that's the worst one but there are more 13:49:43 crawl needs a dialogue writer 13:49:49 or a monologue writer i guess 13:49:59 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-19-gd4fea00 (34) 13:50:04 "So what's the deal with spellbooks?" 13:50:12 -!- chan20 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:17 "Have has this ever happened to you? You're exploring the Lair, and . . ." 13:50:21 <|amethyst> That should be a Donald wizard line 13:51:23 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:29 <|amethyst> FR: donald also has lines according to your max skill 13:51:45 <|amethyst> the capability is already there, because player ghosts use it 13:52:02 I had papercuts 13:52:12 s/had/hate/ 13:52:19 |amethyst: player ghosts are special cased, i *think* 13:52:24 though maybe that's only for gods? i forget 13:52:27 mon-speak.cc is a nightmare 13:53:42 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:54:19 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:32 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0.2/20161019084923]] 13:55:46 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:20 after building TOT crawl (master) this morning, when I try to run I get this error “./dat/des/altar/overflow.des:364: Bad item name: 'wand of slowing’”. Known issue? 13:57:20 !lg theodb 13:57:20 johnstein: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:57:20 246. theodb the Conqueror (L25 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-11-05 04:39:56, with 2133051 points after 43426 turns and 2:17:25. 13:57:31 -!- nikitamog has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 13:57:41 !lg theodb s=src 13:57:41 246 games for theodb: 244x cao, 2x cszo 13:59:13 -!- TuxQmob has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:22 !messages 13:59:22 (1/1) theodb said (20m 57s ago): In reference to the username theodb on CBRO when I try to register for it I'm told it's already taken yet the morgue states noone has ever played on CBRO by that name. That is the name I'm currently using for the tournament. Is there anything I can do about that to be able to use that name? 13:59:36 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:49 -!- valrus_twice has quit [Client Quit] 13:59:57 -!- Technoir has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:00:13 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:01:26 -!- fatkid has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:02:29 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:02:42 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:02:46 -!- valrus_ is now known as valrus 14:03:23 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-19-gd4fea00 (34) 14:05:13 -!- valrus_twice has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:09:37 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-19-gd4fea00 (34) 14:12:19 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:14:43 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:45 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:24:48 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:26:36 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:37 The build passed. 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The 2016 0.19 tournament ends in 15 days, 27 minutes and 45 seconds. 15:32:52 oh I got confused/worried for a while because that command uses the 12 hour clock 15:33:02 fr: the world universally switches to 24-hour clock 15:35:02 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:36:07 looks like the tournament's running smoothly, good 15:36:19 ^status 15:36:19 112 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=78% (135GB) | RAM usage=73% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 15:36:19 up 723 days, 55 min, 13 users, load average: 4.46, 3.81, 3.64 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org 15:36:20 -!- krazyhades has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:38 the ram curve worries me 15:36:50 who do I talk with about resetting my akrasiac password? 15:36:55 4gb does seem a bit small... 15:36:58 no bad clan names either (yet) 15:37:04 geekosaur: best I can do 15:37:15 there's that one pol meme but it's not even borderline so shrug 15:37:49 krazyhades, probably |amethyst 15:38:14 krazyhades: you can send me or |amethyst a request. I'm on my phone at work so not able to help much right now 15:38:14 !nchoice 15:38:20 KoIE: 0 wins || fearitself: CBRO, L22 Devastator of Vehumet || edgefigaro: CBRO, L15 Nimble of Ashenzari || loopi: CAO, L13 Thaumaturge of Vehumet || HilariousDeathArtist: CBRO, L13 Slicer of Nemelex Xobeh || emikaela: CXC, L12 Nimble of Kikubaaqudgha || Eli: CBRO, L7 Chiller of Vehumet || derrpe: CAO, L4 Chiller of No God || UnlimitedFusion: CXC, L1 Chiller of No God 15:38:27 ok 15:38:59 krazyhades: we typically email the account registered with the username. 15:39:04 yeah that would make sense 15:39:11 johnstein, what is the constraint holding back a RAM upgrade? money? 15:39:13 should still be a working email account I think 15:39:22 !kw nchoice 15:39:23 Keyword: nchoice => opwr|hear|koie 15:39:36 |amethyst: can I get a password reset email on akrasiac account krazyhades? 15:39:48 Brannock: cbro is on a ramnode openVZ server. I maxed it out last tournament 15:39:55 !kw nchoice opwr|hear|koie|DDAE 15:39:56 Defined keyword: nchoice => opwr|hear|koie|DDAE 15:40:10 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:40:13 so I would need time and money to migrate to somewhere else 15:41:04 wish I could chip in but I'm poor right now. we could use at least one more NA server, imo. maybe someone from the community will step up? 15:41:38 Brannock: and I'm not really. sysadmin so I don't even know if ramnode is the correct place. ie is there somewhere else cheaper and better 15:41:47 neil offered to let someone admin cszo but there was no one with the time to do it 15:42:00 it's hard to find people who want to commit to it longterm 15:42:31 gammafunk I did volunteer to help with that. but I can only really do crawl stuff. I'm not so good at basic server admin 15:42:52 my goal is still to move to a docker powered server 15:42:57 well I think my statement still applies 15:43:17 that may be easier to modularity and set up additional nodes to gracefully handle increased load 15:43:29 I mean, I could admin the server, but I can't personally commit to it, for instance 15:43:44 lots of good reasons why someone couldn't commit to admining a server for years on end! 15:43:56 well. what kind of commitment are we talking about anyway? 15:44:36 there's no guarantees here at all. it would be nice to have a more integrated solution though 15:44:58 making it less dependent upon single individuals 15:44:59 I'm not sure what you're asking 15:45:33 but yeah you have to be willing to do basic admin for the server and for quite some time 15:45:35 * geekosaur can't even commit to a few months, much less years :/ 15:45:39 ^^ 15:45:44 me as well 15:46:18 if someone does it for 6mo and goes away, then the problem comes back all over again! 15:46:34 which is why it's good to have someone that really says "yep this is my server and I'm responsible for it" 15:47:07 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 15:47:21 gammafunk: but even then, there's no guarantee 15:47:35 (rhf, anyone?) 15:47:44 ok, there's not guarantee 15:47:46 you got me there 15:47:52 but I don't see how that's relevant 15:47:59 rhf? 15:48:08 anyhow we have/had a potention server in cszo but there was no one to admin it 15:48:32 was a server in finland. then it went away for a couple years, then it came back for about 6 months, then went away again 15:48:59 m.edar stepped up with cxc, which was great 15:49:14 sorry gammafunk. typing on my phone. always more difficult to clarify my points 15:49:32 (rl.heh.fi iirc) 15:49:39 ??rhf 15:49:39 rhf[1/2]: Used to be a Finnish server. Isn't anymore, but used to not be, too. ssh rl@rl.heh.fi , or visit http://rl.heh.fi:8080/ for webtiles. 15:49:42 it's nbd, seems like NA servers only becomes an issue during t times really 15:50:03 cjr is underutilized as-is (meme issues aside) 15:50:34 montreal is fairly far away from most of NA 15:50:41 huh? 15:50:57 routing to cjr is going to be very good for anyone in the US 15:50:59 gammafunk: yea. but it's a good discussion. I could easily fill in for cszo like I am with cao 15:51:20 -!- anubisbafoobis has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:51:23 we're not going on a road trip to visit Montreal when we play on cjr 15:51:29 Brannock, as the crow flies yes, as the packet flies not so much 15:51:45 but I don't think you want me being the actual server admin to handle server upgrades and maintenance. I don't have that skill set, despite cbro not burning down yet. 15:52:07 internet-wise, for many years sydney was closer to los angeles than new york was (!) 15:52:16 I need to talk to Mattias on the current state of docker crawl 15:53:26 -!- Harvester_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:59:49 -!- krazyhades has left ##crawl-dev 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:15 -!- Mandevil has left ##crawl-dev 16:08:29 -!- harambe has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:11:45 0.19 broke my rcfile 16:11:57 and my git rc seems to have rolled back 16:11:59 which server do you play on? 16:12:03 I had to reset a few things for CJR 16:12:03 CAO 16:12:25 in particular skill training got reset to automatic mode. easy fix though 16:12:36 for my own RC I mean, not for everyone 16:12:52 nah, everything is borked 16:13:01 i guess I need to start over 16:14:22 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:42 I didn't touch git rc files when upgrading to 0.19 16:21:59 and left the 0.19 rc folder empty 16:24:14 yeah, I figure it must have been something wrong on my end. 16:26:41 if you can't figure it out I can poke around later tonight when I'm home from work 16:31:23 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:38:42 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:43:33 new contam colour: white means "almost yellow"? 16:45:02 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:46:19 -!- AngelaSmythe has quit [] 16:49:40 -!- Telnaior has quit [Quit: Quit: Quit: Quit:] 16:52:20 so swamp worms can't move onto land but they can climb stairs 16:53:05 <|amethyst> they can move onto land now 16:53:14 oh, right, nm 16:55:54 on the scoring site should usk be mentioned with xom and gozag, because of the piety gimick? 16:56:37 "We say that a game is won using a (non-Gozag, non-Xom) god if the player reaches ****** piety with that god without worshipping any other god first; this is not necessarily the same god worshipped at the end of the game. A game is won using Gozag or Xom if the player never worships another god. A game is won using 'No God' only if the player never worships a god." 16:59:53 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:00:07 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03:26 -!- charly_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:07:40 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:02 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:40 -!- theodb has quit [] 17:12:22 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 17:14:57 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:21:31 -!- danielguo94 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:22:21 I don't see the problem? 17:22:43 If someone puts in enough time to max out Uskayaw piety then I think that game qualifies as a Uskayaw game 17:23:21 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:24 Gozag and Xom don't actually have conventional piety, so we don't have a way to check if they were the player's first "serious" god 17:23:40 so we put in the condition that "You can't worship anyone else, only Gozag or Xom, for it to count as a G/X game" 17:24:37 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:26:28 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:31:52 -!- vale_ has quit [Client Quit] 17:32:04 <|amethyst> Brannock: ? 17:32:16 <|amethyst> Brannock: time to max out Uskayaw piety is one combat 17:32:26 one particularly big combat 17:32:30 <|amethyst> true, but 17:33:33 we could put in something like "worshipped uskayaw without worshipping any other god first for X turns" but the current system works 17:34:00 <|amethyst> I'd make U work like G and X probably 17:36:56 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:38:52 -!- snux has quit [Client Quit] 17:39:13 -!- snux has quit [Client Quit] 17:39:38 -!- dippn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:51:33 @??entropy weaver 17:51:33 entropy weaver (11a) | Spd: 12 | HD: 13 | HP: 57-84 | AC/EV: 7/13 | Dam: 17, 17, 17, 17 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 1392 | Sp: entropic weave | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 17:51:49 whoa when did entropy weavers gain the ability to use items and weapons 17:52:34 looks like when they became formicids 17:52:36 nice 17:52:47 now give entropy weavers draining weapons... 17:57:19 -!- CcS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:40 now there's an idea 17:59:40 nicolae-: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:59:42 what the- 17:59:45 !messages 17:59:46 (1/1) gammafunk said (3d 16h 47m 37s ago): I got your changing station shop on like zot:3, and the only usesful thing, a single bene mut, gave me a useless passove map mutation. I'm leaving a 2 out of 5 star Yelp review. 18:00:05 -!- omarax_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:24 !tell gammafunk that'll bring the average yelp review up, thanks! 18:00:24 nicolae-: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 18:04:59 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:08:53 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:16:52 -!- mittak has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 18:18:25 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:19:36 -!- Undo has quit [Client Quit] 18:22:19 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:23:43 removal proposal: scroll of torment 18:26:19 any particular reasoning? 18:27:20 -!- ishanyx is now known as wolfish 18:27:54 it's basically useless, kiku has a torment invocation anyway, and as far as I know, people aren't attached to its flavour like they are to the other useless purple scroll's flavour 18:29:07 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:21 useless even for mu? 18:29:30 or gh i guess 18:31:05 it's not completely useless but it's still not particularly great, and it doesn't seem like it should take up an unid'd scroll slot for every race when it only differs significantly from random uselessness for 3 races 18:31:18 plausible 18:31:26 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:56 to be clear I literally only complain about torment/immolation/random uselessness/degeneration/holy word/ambrosia/etc because of the 52 slot limit 18:33:54 -!- wolfish is now known as isha 18:34:06 ambrosia? 18:36:25 the bad potion you get in spider:4 18:38:30 i know that 18:38:36 though you could fix ambrosia by just not scaling it, right now it gives you less hp/mp when you are lower level so it's bad even in early D 18:38:43 it's really good in early d 18:39:01 if it was like curing and heal wounds and magic and gave the same amount all game then it could be good early 18:39:34 huh, potion uses aren't counted per-type 18:39:44 anyway, i used it a few times in my last game and was always pleased with the results 18:39:46 it saves time with resting of course but other than that? I guess I haven't gotten to literally quaff it on XL1 18:39:46 it's good 18:40:21 it out-heals most early game encounters (including multiple enemies), and restores your mp very fast while it's at it 18:40:46 also, why are you saying that it scales with xl? it doesn't. 18:40:49 when did it scale with xl? it's not true now and i don't recall it even doing in the past 18:40:58 ever doing* 18:41:57 also i looked into per-type potion/scroll item use recording and it looked doable but i think there were some fiddly consequences 18:42:07 sounds like action counting 18:42:11 evokables were particularly awkward, potions/scrolls i think would've been a bit easier 18:42:19 oh, interesting, I thought it must scale with xl or max hp/mp or something because the healing I got from it was so bad 18:42:27 but it turns out the healing is just plain bad lol 18:42:31 torment is fun, but extremely niche. i guess it just depends if you want to have niche consumables or not 18:42:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:42:49 same with ambrosia/ligni/immo 18:43:20 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:43:21 I don't believe that 4 hp/turn outheals a lot of stuff 18:43:24 torment is niche-er 18:43:28 minmay: in my experience, it does! 18:43:39 yeah i find ambrosia quite useful 18:43:42 I mean on D:1-2 yeah but I don't have potions identified on D:1-2 18:43:42 nice 18:43:50 polyphemus just got petrified by his own catlobe 18:43:51 anyway scroll of torment removal does seem pretty reasonable 18:43:56 yeah sure 18:43:56 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:44:01 it's the nichest scroll probably 18:44:02 probably it's better if you run out of mp when you don't want to run out of mp (I don't do this) 18:44:08 now that random uselessness can't sputterfly 18:44:30 noise is probably still niche-r! 18:44:34 I have read random uselessness to get butterflies far more times than I have read torment to get torment 18:44:48 oh yeah noise 18:44:51 scroll of elf:3 18:44:52 scroll of niche is probably the nicheiest 18:44:58 ...I guess thats a stupid comparison for me to make since random uselessness is a lot more common than torment 18:45:13 :P 18:45:30 anyway w/e just mentally remove ambrosia from that list if you want, it wasn't complete anyway 18:45:31 gr strats: use polyphemus's catlobe to petrify everything on shoals 18:46:19 please don't remove ?torment. you will nerf the !lignification TRJ strat 18:46:30 and no one wants that 18:46:34 i am being 100% serious 18:46:44 don't worry we'll just remove !lignification too 18:46:53 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:46:58 !banish minmay 18:46:58 nikheizen casts a spell. minmay is cast into the Abyss! 18:47:12 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:47:19 if you want to halve something's hp you've still got kiku and agony 18:47:34 also removing scroll of torment makes sceptre of torment more unique and exciting!!! 18:47:38 haha 18:47:41 that's a lie 18:48:32 i still vaguely want to extend the 'time-delayed' mechanic from teleport to some other consumable, but it's hard to replicate that magic. tele works because it's an escape item, not something you want to trigger when walking into a fight... 18:48:49 i liked the idea of a 'time bomb' but it wouldn't be nearly as interesting to use. 18:48:55 also it's prism. 18:49:37 potion of delayed super-healing 18:49:41 extend it to Cheibriados' god messages 18:50:03 100 turns after a fight: 'cheibriados appreciates...' 18:50:10 exactly 18:53:45 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:57:29 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:59:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:20 @??wind drake 19:00:20 wind drake (00k) | Spd: 12 | HD: 8 | HP: 51-73 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 12 | fly | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 285 | Sp: wind blast [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], airstrike (0-26) [11!AM, 06!sil], deflect missiles [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 19:00:38 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:01:56 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:02:09 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:02:23 !messages 19:02:24 No messages for ZiBuDo. 19:02:42 1tell ZiBuDo no more memes 19:02:43 gammafunk: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 19:03:00 memery mummery 19:03:08 !tell gammafunk he is my next meme 19:03:08 ZiBuDo: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 19:03:57 1tell ZiBuDo more memes. 19:04:16 !messages 19:04:17 No messages for ZiBuDo. 19:04:18 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-19-gd4fea00 (34) 19:04:21 :F 19:04:31 1tell --- it didn't do anything 19:04:55 tell otoh doesn't do anything, perversely 19:05:20 hm, did that get removed from :beh: 19:05:46 oh whoops, that was only for learn add 19:05:59 (fr add that :p) 19:10:46 learn add todos support tell 19:10:46 Okay, not adding todos => support tell 19:12:47 rip 19:13:02 * geekosaur could add it if :beh: weren't protected because of people sending sequell into loops >.> 19:16:12 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:37 what is :beh: 19:19:56 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:20:33 -!- rentonl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:21:12 ??userdef 19:21:12 userdef[1/1]: https://loom.shalott.org/userdef.html 19:21:23 Click the behaviors link at the top 19:21:47 it's a special entry in sequell that allows it to have custom responses to some inputs 19:21:50 like gong 19:21:51 PTOANNNG! 19:22:00 and cang 19:22:02 cang 19:22:02 cang 19:22:16 -!- Shinino_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:25:54 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:27:12 ??reaverb[2 19:27:13 geekosaur : Note the Gretell database is outdated. 19:27:30 ^ reproduction of what reaverb managed to do to sequell with an ill-considered :beh: entry 19:27:52 (it responded to everything with that. and nothing else, making it impossible to *remove* the :beh: entry...) 19:28:45 i remember that. 19:28:57 the good old days... 19:29:34 You die... 19:29:34 Xom revives you! 19:29:36 ah 19:30:08 ??lerneere 19:30:09 I don't have a page labeled lerneere in my learndb. 19:30:18 !messages 19:30:18 No messages for wheals. 19:30:25 ??lernereren 19:30:25 !desolated 19:30:25 I don't have a page labeled lernereren in my learndb. 19:30:26 243. Splatt the Unseen (L20 NaAs of Okawaru), blasted by a crystal guardian (crystal bolt) in Desolation (desolation_of_salt; desolation_ruin_lobes) on 2016-11-05 04:14:06, with 263245 points after 41158 turns and 3:03:03. 19:30:27 i'm back-ish 19:30:28 ??lerneeeaaeaeaeaeaen hydra 19:30:28 lernaean_hydra[1/3]: A 27-headed yellow hydra, placed in many of the Swamp endings (and only there). If you don't have very high AC/HP, don't use autoexplore around its Swamp:4 vault: !tv minmay killer=~lernaean 1. Was introduced in 0.6 but was in the code before that. 19:30:31 bah 19:30:53 it's weird to think that 0.6 is around the time i started playing crawl 19:31:12 thanks for sharing, grandpa! 19:31:28 kids... 19:31:43 get off my vaults 19:32:03 fifth anniversary of my first vault submission is in december... 19:32:29 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 19:32:56 &versions 0.19 19:33:05 CAO: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CBRO: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CDO: none, CJR: none, CPO: 0.19.0, CUE: none, CWZ: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CXC: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, LLD: 0.19.0-2-gae57169 19:33:09 oh, great 19:33:12 cwz updated 19:33:23 now it's just getting cjr/cdo/cue in sequell 19:33:37 and those 0.19-a cwz t games 19:35:55 ??leerin hydra 19:35:55 I don't have a page labeled leerin_hydra in my learndb. 19:35:58 fr 19:36:13 greensnark: Current list of things we need for sequell: 0.19 added for CDO, CJR, and CUE (there's a commit in sequell repo for this) and include the 0.19-b games from cwz in tournament (they have cv=0.19-a) 19:36:14 how are gozag potion prices determined 19:36:25 it seems like there's no correlation between the effects and the actual price 19:36:38 I don't know if the 'snark is listenin 19:36:48 e.g. I got a cheaper haste/might/agility/resistance vs haste/agility/resistance/flying 19:37:15 I think I actually got an effect that was a subset of another, but more expensive 19:37:26 on a different occasion 19:37:36 !nchoice 19:37:40 DDAE: 0 wins || Valmet: CWZ, L24 Executioner of Makhleb || puimuR: CXC, L20 Executioner of Trog || edsrzf: CPO, L8 Conjurer of Kikubaaqudgha 19:37:51 !kw nchoice 19:37:51 Keyword: nchoice => opwr|hear|koie|DDAE 19:38:23 this is always a fun one 19:38:30 !hs gammafunk t hear 19:38:31 No games for gammafunk (t hear sc<1000000000). 19:38:51 !kw nchoice opwr|hear|koie|DDAE|CeVM 19:38:52 Defined keyword: nchoice => opwr|hear|koie|DDAE|CeVM 19:39:02 !hs * t ddae 19:39:03 9. Poncheis the Severer (L16 DDAE of Makhleb), blasted by Roxanne (crystal spear) on Snake:2 (uniq_roxanne) on 2016-11-05 22:44:42, with 114034 points after 27244 turns and 1:49:11. 19:39:09 -!- FR3D_ has quit [Client Quit] 19:39:09 when did it end 19:39:12 cjr 19:39:15 not in sequell yet 19:39:17 o 19:39:44 CanOfWorms: int multiplier = random_range(20, 30); // arbitrary 19:39:50 !source gozag_potion_petition 19:39:51 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc#L4070 19:42:34 -!- kdrnic_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:02 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:43:48 hmm 19:44:07 how annoying is it to re-order the options from cheapest to most expensive 19:44:20 probably trivial 19:44:34 !nchoice koie 19:44:42 KoIE: 1 win || edgefigaro: CBRO, L23 Eclecticist of Ashenzari || Grimm: CAO, L16 Slinger of Dithmenos || moose: CBRO, L15 Devastator of Vehumet || HilariousDeathArtist: CBRO, L15 Nimble of Nemelex Xobeh || emikaela: CXC, L15 Slicer of Kikubaaqudgha || loopi: CAO, L14 Thaumaturge of Vehumet || vale: CBRO, L11 Covert of Ashenzari || Eli: CBRO, L10 Nimble of Vehumet || Izverg: CAO, L8 Cutter of No Go... 19:44:44 -!- kdrnic has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:45:00 no need to be koie about it 19:45:15 amazing that this got chosen, I almost did a stream of it 19:45:18 but it was too late 19:45:33 didn't you do a koie of sif before the tournament? 19:45:36 yep 19:45:54 !lg . koie 19:45:55 2. gammafunk the Ruinous (L27 KoIE of Sif Muna), blasted by a red draconian annihilator (crystal spear) on Zot:4 on 2016-10-19 05:58:42, with 620198 points after 125051 turns and 10:20:42. 19:46:07 which I lost by my own dumb fault 19:46:11 -!- OrphineM has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:46:41 r i p 19:46:54 Mephitic Cloud auto targeting leaks information 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10767 by Foxfire_ 19:46:54 -!- kdrnic__ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:02 at least my Zot phase is over with my last game 19:47:05 !lg 19:47:06 3887. gammafunk the Brawler (L27 TrGl of Uskayaw), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-11-02 03:32:59, with 1581940 points after 83822 turns and 8:04:19. 19:49:50 -!- kdrnic_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:53:53 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:57:56 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 19:59:51 yes, DE elementalist, digging out the walls when i am casting tornado is an excellent plan 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:10 lo 20:00:12 l 20:09:50 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:12:44 -!- nikitamog has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:45 -!- nikitamog_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:15:53 -!- Dingo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:16:34 -!- hellse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:18:03 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:18:43 PleasingFungus, maybe not a delayed effect a la teleport, but one that ramps up? 20:18:58 kinda like song of slaying actually 20:19:14 idk 20:19:59 the goal is probably something like to get them to pop it as they enter battle, planning ahead, instead of "well I need might now" and turning on might? 20:20:01 the key thing about teleport that i wanted to imitate is the way you need to plan several turns in advance if you want the effect. in practice, various other things also work that way (e.g. most buff potions), so maybe it's a bit redundant 20:20:05 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 20:23:07 a delayed potion that does a lot of damage to things near you but also harms you, so you have to kind of roll those dice on whether or not you'll still be able to take the damage in X turns 20:23:50 potion of extreme stomachache 20:24:00 i don't really know how to flavor that best. i'm just the ideas guy. 20:24:17 Fulminating Flesh 20:24:23 wait there's already a Fulminating thing in the game 20:25:04 and it's another timed explosion! 20:25:48 i had an idea eons ago for a potion that would make you rot and create clouds of miasma around you, flavored as turning your own flesh to decaying putrescence 20:26:02 heh 20:26:26 i have had a lot of ideas, in the past. 20:26:57 PleasingFungus: I don't know if you care to think about this, but for new fixed golubria passages, I was thinking that the old behaviour where they didn't work if a monster was on the other end could be improved 20:26:57 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:27:10 whereby it would swap the monster at the destination position with yourself 20:27:13 heh 20:27:17 oh i was about to suggest that, even 20:27:23 would be more powerful, probably 20:27:27 not for the spell 20:27:29 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:27:31 just for fixed ones 20:27:35 ok 20:27:50 seems cool but the fixed ones barely exist so i don't have strong opinions on them 20:28:10 it's probably more technical than anything, considerations like this 20:28:18 also allies would follow you through them like how they do for stairs 20:28:27 adjacent ones piling out 20:28:55 might be better to more fully separate this feature from the spell PoG in terms of descriptions/name/tile/glyph 20:29:32 I want it to have the good behaviour of a hatch more or less...a within-level hatch 20:30:12 Secret Passage 20:30:16 no! 20:30:19 yes 20:30:35 !learn add secret_rule no more secrets. 20:30:35 is this a rename/reimplementation of short-range portals or whatever? 20:30:35 secret rule[1/1]: no more secrets. 20:30:42 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 20:30:50 MarvinPA: I need to take a look at how those currently work, but yes 20:30:53 !learn add rule_rule no more rules 20:30:54 rule rule[1/1]: no more rules 20:30:55 well, not secret as in you have to search for it 20:30:58 just flavorwise 20:31:04 for a passage that goes from one place to another 20:31:20 it's supposed to be so that they just behave well with travel/autoexplore, so that use of them is not so weird 20:31:32 and no need for weird lua triggers to use them 20:31:51 s/use them/create them/ 20:32:43 and I'm not proposing that we go back to randomly adding them to levels, like was done at one point 20:33:12 gosh yes, that serial vault... 20:33:37 nothing wrong with serial vaults 20:33:50 do I need to make a rule 20:34:09 PleasingFungus: buff which charges you HP upfront and makes you good at *stuff*, then gives you back some HP later 20:34:10 I actually do like some serial vaults...I'm not even sure which I dislike 20:34:21 ??rule rule 20:34:21 rule rule[1/1]: no more rules 20:34:27 invalid rule 20:34:35 it's the most valid rule of all, gammafunk 20:34:43 nothing is true. everything is permitted. 20:35:08 good...it's permitted that I...remove...all nicolae vaults... 20:35:23 heck, it's mandatory 20:35:51 !lg . heck won 20:35:51 1. gammafunk the Elven Blade (L27 HECK of Fedhas), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2016-05-21 01:54:08, with 2696775 points after 92007 turns and 8:47:26. 20:35:57 that's why I won heck, it's mandatory 20:36:01 what the heck! 20:36:13 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:37:01 it's permitted that i get a commit bit and put in every nicolae vault i can think of! 20:38:57 !learn add unruly see {gammafunk} 20:38:58 unruly[1/1]: see {gammafunk} 20:39:24 geekosaur: speaking of things that are unruly! 20:39:31 any luck with OS X builds? 20:39:44 maybe that's more "unholy" 20:39:50 unruly would be an understatement 20:39:52 * geekosaur is almost functional, for the moment. which is a big step up from most of the past week 20:39:54 :/ 20:39:54 unruly, huh 20:39:56 nice 20:41:04 unforutnately it doesn't take a lot of bright light to induce brainfog which makes working with the mac difficult :/ 20:43:38 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:43:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0.2/20161019084923]] 20:44:06 yeah, hope you feel better soon. 20:44:44 * geekosaur suspects sinus surgery will have to be in his near future 20:45:17 ah, geez :( 20:46:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:35 i constantly feel like my body is trying to physically implode. like, a stiff, painful crushing feeling 20:48:58 especially worrisome because the frontal lobe has a tendency to grow into the nasal cavity (which is why sinus -> brainfog --- even if it hasn't, the nasal cavity can put pressure on it by the same path) and mine kinda does not need more disruption 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:39 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:04:01 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 21:04:45 -!- idwe has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:04:56 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:06:51 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 21:07:35 does CAO automatically time out ssh sessions, or is this a problem on my end with configuration of ssh 21:07:58 -!- insecticide10 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:08:23 more likely a NAT timeout 21:08:54 -!- agolden has quit [Client Quit] 21:09:54 nice, found a stack of 3 acquirement on depths 21:10:04 you may be able to work around it with the ServerAliveInterval / ServerAliveCountMax directives in .ssh/config 21:10:12 (or putty equivalent) 21:10:33 geekosaur: thanks, I'll try that 21:11:17 -!- Frey has quit [Client Quit] 21:15:25 |amethyst 21:15:37 oops. thought I did ctrl+f first. nm! 21:20:25 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 21:24:14 -!- arianwen has quit [Client Quit] 21:25:56 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:26:41 -!- OrphineM has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:35:13 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:43:24 !tell PleasingFungus your riposte longblades have set the stage for the first -Melee artefact; some long blade w/ 100% riposte. 21:43:24 Lasty: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 21:44:31 Lasty: a dodgy sword? 21:44:31 bh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:44:45 bh: that would definitely fit 21:44:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:45:29 !tell PleasingFungus it's a bad vault. 21:45:30 bh: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 21:46:21 -!- fireprfHydra has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:47:07 Lasty: always on the edge :) 21:50:17 Unable to stop flying after donning boots of flying 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10768 by damerell 21:52:31 dpeg: My player tear supply is running low 21:52:55 an emergent scenario almost occured in my game just now 21:53:06 @??torpor snail 21:53:07 torpor snail (03w) | Spd: 7 | HD: 10 | HP: 46-70 | AC/EV: 8/1 | Dam: 25 | amphibious | Res: 06magic(40), 12drown | XP: 424 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 21:53:07 with an orb spider smashing a rock with an errant iood bringing roxanne into view 21:53:13 Lasty: tear or team? 21:53:14 surprisingly fragile 21:53:27 has anyone tried to experiment with vaults that have something like this happen? 21:53:28 @??gastronok 21:53:28 Gastronok (06w) | Spd: 5 | HD: 20 | HP: 125-170 | AC/EV: 3/1 | Dam: 40 | 10items, 10doors, amphibious, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80), 12drown | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 2225 | Sp: cantrip, airstrike (0-50), sum.small mammal, slow, sprint | Sz: Big | Int: human. 21:53:47 dpeg: Tears, of course! 21:53:49 ebering, that's a neat idea 21:53:55 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:55:29 Lasty: no tear for the player!! 21:59:02 !winrate ramc 21:59:14 what's the win % command? 21:59:58 -!- nikitamog_ has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04:35 !!! 22:04:43 I can hear the salt... 22:06:25 -!- WebFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:06:39 bh: but like... is it based on something? 22:06:43 everything is so specific 22:06:58 pf: come watch me... taste the salt, on cjr 22:07:28 i'm playing normie games instead rn 22:07:28 sorry 22:07:32 !!! 22:07:37 ya 22:07:38 have fun... 22:07:42 my hipster cred is in DIRE danger 22:07:49 if you die i'll watch the tv tho 22:08:11 WebFungus: it's a Borges vault 22:09:09 the fungus is caught in a web!! 22:10:12 there were 22:10:23 a lot of enemies in one of those runs 22:10:25 *ruins 22:10:51 "oh, some ruins, perfect let's go in there for cover and whooooooooa" 22:10:52 * CanOfWorms immediately reads tp 22:12:44 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:13:45 hexaflexagon (L23 CeAM) (Vaults:3) 22:16:07 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:25:26 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 22:26:28 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:27:17 !crashlog hexaflexagon 22:27:18 No milestones for hexaflexagon (crash). 22:27:27 !locate hexaflexagon 22:27:28 hexaflexagon was last seen on CDO (hexaflexagon, L1 FoEE of No God). 22:27:34 figures 22:27:40 hope we get Sequell fixed soon 22:39:15 fr yred blocks petrification because he doesn't like statform 22:39:29 in the same way zin blocks mutations 22:40:01 petrification isn't actually statue form, though 22:40:20 you don't get any of the benefits of being a (rock hard) creature 22:40:29 other than a modest AC boost, I guess 22:40:41 that doesn't make any sense does it 22:40:43 you get some of them during rampup/cooldown no?> 22:40:55 hmm actually I guess you are vulnerable to lrd 22:41:27 is there a gameplay reason for Yred blocking statue form? 22:41:32 I guess you're made of rock, but still living 22:41:42 he hates nonliving stuff apparently bh 22:41:42 including gargoyles I think 22:41:54 yeah 22:42:06 presumably anything that's not strictly alive or strictly (un)dead 22:42:07 can't worship him as gr 22:42:18 even though gr is supposedly living stone 22:42:32 -!- nikitamog has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:42:58 (whereas monster Gr isn't. which is why Gr was originally Grotesk instead of Gargoyle) 22:42:58 in any case, there's no reason to block petrification 22:43:12 unless the game has other instances of this kind of thing 22:43:18 like tso blocking spider polymorphs 22:43:49 tso doesn't block spider because spider can do things other than poison melee (namely, run) 22:44:08 does yred block poly statue form? 22:44:41 probably should for consistency. but, crawl consistency is ~hollow laugh~ 22:44:43 -!- Dracunos has quit [] 22:44:59 bh: ah, gammafunk had predicted it would be some kind of lit thing 22:44:59 WebFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:45:22 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:45:52 man 22:45:53 oh yred only hates casting statue form 22:46:10 I don't actually understand why there would be a difference between petrif and statform 22:46:10 if you manage to get into it in some other way you're fine, maybe 22:46:17 like you're a piece of rock either way right 22:46:20 well, in one you can move 22:46:23 !won gammafunk t 22:46:24 No games for gammafunk (t). 22:46:40 sure but wouldn't that imply the petrif is actually even harder 22:46:50 maybe I'm overthinking 22:46:50 and technically yred hates animated non-living monsters 22:47:00 not that ordinary large rock the cyclops is carrying 22:47:11 but there is precedent for this sort of thing yes 22:47:11 friggin' nonliving large rock 22:47:14 thinks it'sso good 22:47:17 is there? 22:47:28 chei blocks haste from berserk if you drink a zerk potion unknowingly 22:47:34 zin blocks mutations from any source 22:47:59 but you're not actually turning into something yred hates when you're petrified 22:47:59 zin also blocks polymorphs I think 22:48:02 because you're ot animated 22:48:05 oh 22:48:08 *not 22:48:10 well if that's true then I guess it doesn't count 22:48:14 I'd just dump Yred hating non-living stuff 22:48:20 it's so marginal 22:48:35 you hear in the wind... 22:48:42 "...the flavour cooooost..." 22:48:57 where's that page with the default glyphs? 22:49:02 ??glyphs 22:49:02 glyphs[1/3]: http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs-narrow.html — Generated with the script http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs 22:49:11 that one? 22:49:11 ty 22:49:57 -!- WebFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:49:59 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:50:36 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:38 chei blocks haste from moth of wrath/AF_CHAOS 22:53:04 yred hates gr because it's "nonliving". fedhas is fine with them... 22:53:34 that's because fedhas hates the undead 22:53:36 -!- cosmonaut has joined ##crawl-dev 22:53:46 not that I'm in any great hurry to play a gr^yred, but it is a really dumb restriction 22:54:00 !won canofworms t 22:54:00 No games for canofworms (t). 22:54:04 cjr 22:54:07 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 22:54:07 ah right 22:54:10 did you win a second one yet? 22:54:12 nope 22:54:13 esp. when most of the game thinks they're alive, except yred 22:54:16 I'm working on it 22:54:24 I got a great start, hoping to streak, knock on wood 22:54:33 same 22:54:50 ugh, anyone help me? I have connection problem on my webtile game 22:54:53 -!- Judedude has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:54:58 is it cbro 22:55:04 no lld 22:55:15 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:55:21 what is the problem? 22:55:51 I was refreshing game and can't load till now... 22:55:53 about 5 min 22:56:22 stuck in loading page 22:57:21 oh loaded 22:57:29 never mind! 22:57:30 nice 22:57:40 the best fix is when i don't have to do anything to fix it. 22:58:01 sounds like my local network >.> 22:58:49 -!- Dracunos_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:53 ('cept mine also does cute shit like cycling NAT entries every 5s or so, so even if I manage to connect it'll be toast shortly) 22:59:50 -!- Dracunos has quit [] 22:59:50 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:53 !nchoice 23:00:53 gammafunk: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 23:00:59 CeVM: 0 wins || Poncheis: CAO, L25 Crack Shot of Makhleb || Iwannabefree: CXC, L16 Severer of Gozag || willcat: CBRO, L15 Fighter of Ashenzari || stickyfingers: CXC, L12 Archer of Fedhas || Miserium: CAO, L9 Conjurer of Hepliaklqana || drke: CBRO, L1 Stinger of No God || MDvedh: CXC, L1 Stinger of No God 23:01:40 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:06:06 man this tournament is generating some good splats 23:06:12 someone just got blasted by Antaeus 23:06:28 hrm 23:06:36 !vault due_jungle_book 23:06:36 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des#L2499 23:07:14 !kw lair-end 23:07:15 Keyword: lair-end => lair kmap~~evil_forest|wormcave|jungle_book|caniform_friends|catoblepas_cave|lair_end|in_review|tendril_chambers|ancient_temple|hotspot 23:07:57 !kw lair-end kmap~~evil_forest|wormcave|jungle_book|caniforms_friends|catoblepas_cave|lair_end|in_review|tendril_chambers|ancient_temple|hotspot 23:07:58 Defined keyword: lair-end => kmap~~evil_forest|wormcave|jungle_book|caniforms_friends|catoblepas_cave|lair_end|in_review|tendril_chambers|ancient_temple|hotspot 23:08:06 !lairendkills * current trunk 23:08:24 Lair End kills (* current trunk): 283x evil_forest (18.40%), 183x gammafunk_lair_ancient_temple (11.90%), 173x evilmike_catoblepas_cave (11.25%), 164x grunt_lair_end_beastmaster (10.66%), 119x hangedman_lair_tendril_chambers (7.74%), 115x minmay_lair_end_frog_pond (7.48%), 110x wormcave (7.15%), 107x guppyfry_lair_end_dragon (6.96%), 102x minmay_lair_end_enchanted_forest (6.63%), 98x hangedman_lai... 23:08:26 !lairendkills * current trunk o=-% 23:08:44 Lair End kills (* current trunk o=-%): 4x due_jungle_book (0.26%), 36x cheibrodos_lair_end_hotspot (2.34%), 44x hangedman_lair_caniforms_friends (2.86%), 98x hangedman_lair_in_review (6.37%), 102x minmay_lair_end_enchanted_forest (6.63%), 107x guppyfry_lair_end_dragon (6.96%), 110x wormcave (7.15%), 115x minmay_lair_end_frog_pond (7.48%), 119x hangedman_lair_tendril_chambers (7.74%), 164x grunt_la... 23:08:48 !lg * cikiller~~antaeus 23:08:49 455. zarath9 the Bringer of Light (L27 FoFi of The Shining One), blasted by Antaeus (bolt of lightning) on Coc:7 (coc_dpeg) on 2016-11-06 03:03:48, with 1165275 points after 49996 turns and 7:43:59. 23:09:03 what is the white snake's name again? 23:09:04 do people really die that infrequently in jungle book? 23:09:07 the unique 23:09:13 bai suzhen 23:09:22 is it hyphenated or no? 23:09:26 no 23:09:28 ty 23:09:29 !lg * current cikiller=dire_elephant lair:6 s=kmap% 23:09:30 207 games for * (current cikiller=dire_elephant lair:6): 135x (65.22%), 28x evil_forest (13.53%), 27x gammafunk_lair_ancient_temple (13.04%), 11x grunt_lair_end_beastmaster (5.31%), 3x gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake (1.45%), 2x mu_elephants_graveyard (0.97%), beast_lair_carwin_large_4 (0.48%) 23:09:43 ahhh 23:09:47 that's tricky 23:09:54 that will slow down the query a lot 23:09:57 having to use map 23:10:00 hrm 23:10:06 whas going on? 23:10:16 jungle book turns the statues into dire elephants 23:10:23 after the event where you kill the anaconda 23:10:23 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 23:10:33 but this doesn't generate the monster upon map creation 23:10:37 hence it's not captured by kmap 23:10:43 so you need ot look at map 23:10:44 very good interaction 23:10:51 but then you don't actually know if the map generated the kill :( 23:11:02 otoh you could condition in specifically on dire elephant in this case 23:11:07 so it will be almost certainly accurate 23:11:12 *almost* 23:11:13 !messages 23:11:13 (1/1) regret-index said (51s ago): kmap can't track lua-spawned nonsense like jungle_book- just track being in the map or not or something 23:11:22 yeah I can do better 23:11:29 I can condition on dire elephants 23:11:35 otherwise it'd be a bit less accurate 23:11:50 won't that capture non junglebook kills? 23:12:03 I'll condition on the killer being a dire elephant 23:12:08 -!- NeremWorld has quit [] 23:12:08 the ikiller that is 23:12:20 since that's the only non-normal generation thing 23:12:33 gammafunk, dungeon csi 23:12:34 so map=due_jungle_book cikiller~~dire_elephant 23:12:42 with an or condition 23:12:47 will still slow the query down but oh well 23:13:28 CanOfWorms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU 23:14:35 yes 23:14:37 YES 23:14:47 it just might work... 23:15:07 actually, have you ever watched leverage 23:15:24 nope 23:15:34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n3OCRpmzPo 23:15:56 the black guy is a hacker 23:16:05 in case his dialogue didn't make it clear 23:16:12 blocked in my country CanOfWorms!!!! 23:16:15 that is unamerican! 23:16:18 !!! 23:16:23 deng 23:16:39 I wonder if polsy bypasses thouse 23:16:41 *thoses 23:17:42 quick t question: OpWr^G XL20, AC12, EV32, SH29, hat of pondering; U&C with a bit of hex/con/fire, would you replace "Reflect+6 by "Tempest {Spirit Fragile rElec rPois MP+9} (HP 137, MP 54, would become MP 63) ? 23:17:55 I am really not good at this. 23:18:16 gammafunk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM5VoPX3YHE 23:18:18 does that one work? 23:18:27 yeah 23:18:57 sadly that clip doesn't have the epic keyboard duel 23:19:41 I have to pause it to cook fish 23:19:42 but 23:19:53 from the first two minutes it looks incredibly accurate 23:20:38 it's definitely more accurate than csi, but the nature of the show leaves a lot of room for bullshit 23:21:06 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:12 CanOfWorms: 23:21:14 are you a hacker 23:21:22 I am a rom hacker 23:21:36 man playing a Hu is wild after Ds. I level up so fast~ 23:21:38 send me a png of your rom hack please 23:21:45 you have to delete the png 23:21:46 after 24 hours 23:21:50 do you really want a 16 mb png 23:21:50 or bill clinton comes 4 u 23:21:55 but that sensitive code! 23:22:25 dpeg: are you using statue form? 23:22:50 but either way the faith amulet is a lot stronger generally speaking; you do have enough sh where reflect will actually do something 23:22:59 gammafunk: not found yet :( 23:23:04 it's a guardian spirit amulet I think 23:23:11 yeah, Spirit 23:23:12 which is still a good reason to switch over 23:23:20 ah yeah then all that extra effective hp is super nice 23:23:25 faith is no good to me, I go with Trump^H^H^H^H^HGozzy 23:23:40 and "ah yeah" refers to not finding statue 23:23:47 yes 23:23:51 many thanks... thought I'd share an interesting Fragile artefact 23:24:14 the usuall "gspirit is frikkin' strong" thing applies, but my comment was that reflect is actually somewhat useful with more sh 23:24:50 not really enough to compare with that much extra hp but it's fun 23:25:18 guess I'll clear Elf with Reflect (it's really useful here) and switch to Fragile for Zot 23:25:19 dpeg: dragon form is fun on podes 23:25:48 you have a lot of shield skill and you'd probably want a prot ring or at least ozo, but your ev in dform will be good 23:26:15 I am happy I have AC 12 on this guy :) 23:26:16 all ev/sh melee is pretty painful, so I'd use dform if statue isn't avail 23:26:33 I prefer dform over statue in general, but most like statue 23:26:57 I have no forms book whatsoever. 23:27:00 deng 23:27:05 nice 23:27:08 you don't even have transmutation trained, do you 23:27:09 but I have Gozag!!! 23:27:12 pure pode power 23:27:14 gammafunk: no 23:27:17 that's weird, did you buy book shops? 23:27:28 CanOfWorms: did you die 23:27:29 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 23:27:29 I guess it's not too hard to just not get any transmutations books 23:27:35 pf: I did not 23:27:39 pity 23:27:42 wow 23:27:46 any notable encounters or loot? 23:27:48 I was level 24 and only got salt after clearing depths,so 23:27:58 gammafunk: two jewellery shops only, I am only in it for the bling 23:28:01 PleasingFungus: oh, arag got desolation when we were watching 23:28:02 pf: I found the worst ring for a gr 23:28:04 he kinda almost died 23:28:10 +Fly rPois -rC rN+ Stealth- 23:28:12 and he complained about the loot a lot 23:28:17 not exactly a surprise 23:28:25 nothng notable otherwise 23:28:32 dpeg: you've only bought two shops period? 23:28:37 that seems low for that late 23:28:47 gammafunk: I am killing things on Sticky Flame, tentacle power, and a bit of confuse 23:28:58 dpeg: buy a book shop and your probablems may be solved! 23:29:03 CanOfWorms: ah, was expecting relec 23:29:03 hm, can I still not reglyph derived undead then? 23:29:06 well, mu op, nerf plz. 23:29:09 honestly, german fiscal responsibility can be so extreme.... 23:29:10 I have 5300$ and I'm saving to brive V and Z 23:29:16 NotLikeThis 23:29:19 nikheizen: there's a mantis issue or something for it somewhere 23:29:21 gammafunk: <3 23:29:37 oh yeah, I guess since I made that it should be easy to find 23:29:46 well, dpeg may yet get the chance at books... after burning down the elfhouse 23:29:54 confuse is very good 23:29:57 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 23:29:59 tabstorm said "your char is bad araganzar you'll die, don't do desolation on bad chars" 23:30:03 and I said "lol" 23:30:06 CanOfWorms: yes, that's why I am doing Elf 23:30:18 looks like no comment after neils 23:30:21 was just a mf with near 30/30 defenses, how can you die 23:30:25 will give Statue/Dragon form a shot if I can 23:30:38 yeah it makes podes a lot less painful for melee 23:30:41 gammafunk: did he die 23:30:44 no! 23:30:48 oh, I do have one comment on salt 23:30:49 buff salt, imo 23:30:54 add more salt... 23:30:56 the clouds add fun blink interactions 23:30:58 didn't really come close but he had a couple nasty encounters early on 23:31:06 asked gammafunk for some advice and he survived and won 23:31:10 let that be a lesson to you all 23:31:27 he did get kinda bad rng for loot, but thems the breaks 23:31:44 oh wait, now I remember 23:31:49 I did get one good piece of loot 23:31:57 -!- tollymain has joined ##crawl-dev 23:32:00 what was it 23:32:01 a +2 helmet of see invisible to replace my crown of dyropreva 23:32:08 but the crown is so good! 23:32:11 ??dyropreva 23:32:11 dyropreva ~ dyrovepreva ~ crown of dyrovepreva[1/2]: +3 unrandart hat {rElec Int+2 SInv}. A large crown of dull bronze, set with a dazzling array of gemstones. 23:32:16 ... 23:32:32 why would you replace it with +2 sinv helm with it 23:32:39 not only am I a gargoyle, I was wearing a randart scale mail with relec 23:32:52 hrm, I guess it is more base ac 23:32:53 by 1 23:32:55 and the armour skill actually made it gave +1 ac 23:33:08 -!- Awod has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:33:09 even if same ac at 0 armour 23:33:19 that int tho 23:33:27 didn't really need it 23:33:31 bet you'll die at 0 int! 23:33:32 I think my char has 17 int right now 23:33:39 =dump 23:33:39 No where information for CanOfWorms. 23:33:49 weird 23:33:53 you feel lost... 23:33:57 maybe broken since the upgrade 23:34:00 and no milestones for cjr yet 23:34:04 https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/wormsofcant/wormsofcant.txt 23:34:04 &versions 0.19 23:34:06 18 int 23:34:10 CAO: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CBRO: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CDO: none, CJR: none, CPO: 0.19.0, CUE: none, CWZ: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CXC: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, LLD: 0.19.0-2-gae57169 23:34:21 I'm calling it: die brainless next to mnoleg on the orb run 23:34:33 Elf has Transfigurations 23:34:37 dang 23:34:40 that's not actually possible since I'm not planning on entering pan 23:34:51 oh I had a neat idea for a new enemy mechanic lategame 23:34:52 CanOfWorms: can't they show up even regardless of that 23:34:57 I forget if they can 23:34:59 I don't think so? 23:35:00 stat flaying 23:35:02 they cannot. 23:35:06 ah 23:35:11 I guess they are kind of horrifying 23:35:15 seraphs can, for some reason 23:35:18 I mean the only course of action that could happen is 23:35:20 yeah that's maybe weird 23:35:22 Brannock: i like that! 23:35:23 a "gruntism" 23:35:31 I accidentally >y on a pandemonium portal 23:35:33 not sure what I'll do with it for postgame 23:35:37 but r-i suggested putting it on death ooze 23:35:38 not sure it has to be late game, just at least midgame (where we start introducing 'weirder mechanics') 23:35:39 to replace rot 23:35:39 land directly on mnoleg's rune 23:35:41 and leave 23:35:43 hm 23:35:49 flay Dex down to 3, or something 23:35:50 would they still be a melee monster? 23:35:54 CanOfWorms: I think only if you actually took the rune though 23:35:55 flaying on melee feels very weird 23:35:55 killing the ooze ends the flay 23:36:00 you could not pick..oh 23:36:04 autorune pickup..hrm 23:36:07 I think you'd still have a tunr 23:36:09 theme it as "the deathly slime interferes with your agility" 23:36:10 or something 23:36:16 because that pickup would take time, it wouldn't do it 23:36:17 possibly, pretend I also fatfinger the g key 23:36:21 unless you hit . or move onto it 23:36:24 why dex specifically? i assumed this would be all stats 23:36:28 all or random, you know 23:36:34 because TRJ 23:36:38 ????????? 23:36:40 ... 23:36:50 what is the connection between TRJ and dex 23:36:50 TRJ generates tons of jellies; if it flayed random, then melee characters get really fucked up 23:36:57 by all the death oozes swarming them 23:37:00 that seems good 23:37:05 does TRJ need buffing? 23:37:09 like 23:37:10 probably! 23:37:11 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: thanks for help!] 23:37:12 if death oozes exist 23:37:14 they should do something 23:37:17 !killratio the_royal_jelly 23:37:34 also, i am like 99% sure that random stat flaying hurts "casters" a hell of a lot more than 'melee chars' 23:37:38 trj is really easy to kill if you do it when it's safe to do slime 23:37:50 the_royal_jelly wins 5.861% of battles. 23:37:52 since str, int, dex losses all hurt 'casters' 23:37:58 PleasingFungus, casters at least can create space and kill the oozes at distance 23:37:59 whereas tbh melee chars usually care a lot less about str 23:38:16 -!- Dracunos has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 23:38:16 well, if it's trj, most of the oozes won't be in melee anyway 23:38:16 yeah about all you'd do is get some brainless mibe 23:38:19 but guess what 23:38:22 brill pots exist 23:38:30 since they'll be blocked by all the other oozes 23:38:45 ugh 23:38:49 !seen johnstein 23:38:49 I last saw johnstein at Sun Nov 6 01:15:36 2016 UTC (2h 23m 12s ago) saying 'oops. thought I did ctrl+f first. nm!' on ##crawl-dev. 23:38:53 it'd be easy enough to change the mechanic once it's implemented, anyway 23:39:21 so it solves at once death oozes being irrelevant, and gives us a new thing to play with for postgame 23:39:23 johnstein: if you kill my dcss 0.19 process, i'd really appreciate it. i lost connection and it won't let me play the game until the server runs out of patience... 23:39:36 man wish we could get sequell updated for tourney games...on account of my laziness to check pages 23:39:40 Brannock: i like the basic mechanic, but i'm just not sure how well it fits death oozes specifically 23:39:43 and melee generally 23:39:46 I think that can take about 8-10 mins 23:39:55 something about melee-range flaying feels really off to me. maybe i'm crazy 23:40:00 i don't have a strong justification 23:40:01 don't think of it as "flaying" 23:40:06 could just be an aura of stat flaying, like zymes 23:40:08 the death ooze slimes the player 23:40:17 wow that'd be pretty nuts 23:40:19 if it's stacking 23:40:26 apply a stepdown :v 23:40:30 a wut 23:40:38 something like the thing corr has, probably 23:40:51 stepdown, the solution, and cause of, all of life's problems 23:40:51 johnstein: if you see this message in more than 10 minutes for now, ignore it i guess 23:41:04 johnstein: have a nice weekend :) 23:41:23 can I use my rcfile to replace all instances of a word, wherever they may appear, with another word? if so, is it possible without using lua 23:41:33 hrm 23:41:34 it is not possible without lua 23:41:49 I don't think you can...er 23:41:51 i doubt it's possible with lua but i could be wrong 23:41:54 what does speedrun_rest do again 23:42:22 PleasingFungus: well I got your message. but I'm on my phone about ready to get the kids out of the tub. sooooo might be longer than 10 minutes. sorry! 23:42:37 lol 23:42:39 hf :) 23:42:44 i just want halflings to be called minitaurs 23:42:50 lol 23:43:13 *very* important applications 23:43:25 I see 23:43:25 afaik you can't do it even in lua, you need to do a fake_lang in c++ 23:43:38 nikheizen: yeah, what I do for message magic in speedrun_rest.lua is to read messages through a filter 23:43:48 that discards ones matching certain lua pattersn 23:44:06 so for my message processing, I ignore the things I don't want to trigger my code 23:44:16 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:22 I'm not sure if you can supress messages yet still see them in lua 23:44:30 and then maybe print the ones you capture with crawl.mpr 23:44:32 that might work 23:44:50 nikheizen: see the crawl function crawl.messages() 23:44:58 to access messages programatically 23:45:04 oh dear. then that'll be slow as **** 23:45:10 (or chei ******) 23:45:17 well it's quite fast in practice 23:45:22 in fact, for cheiwalking 23:45:26 I have to add in a delay 23:45:30 so it doesn't go crazy fast 23:45:46 currently 50ms 23:45:58 so the message checking doesn't slow it down ime but 23:46:10 yeah this sounds like a fairly silly project all the same :) 23:46:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:46:22 yeah dont get worked up about it 23:46:32 trust me, I'm super worked up 23:46:37 i'm currently at 23:46:40 HYPE STATUS 23:46:59 _You feel your hype will last longer. 23:47:04 ^ 23:47:53 what was the ancienne crawl message for getting slowed again 23:48:06 "your low speed feels more durable" or something 23:48:22 slow, but durable 23:48:42 cheiite propaganda 23:49:12 what the Statue Form Gestapo wants you to believe 23:50:17 this message sponsored by yredelemnul 23:50:26 gammafunk, how come your HECK game isn't showing up on the clan page? 23:50:34 Don't think too fast! A quick mind is a criminal mind! 23:50:45 Brannock: that was last tourney I think :) 23:50:49 oh oops 23:50:51 I haven't played a game yet 23:50:52 you still haven't played yet? 23:50:54 geez! 23:50:55 but I will tomorrow or mon 23:51:02 hey, last t I got 6! 23:51:04 I got a HuNe rolling 23:51:14 can't say I'll get that many this time 23:51:22 busy with life? 23:52:15 Well how many are you planning to win?! 23:52:23 !lg brannock t0.18 won 23:52:24 No games for brannock (t0.18 won). 23:52:28 er 23:52:28 At least three 23:52:38 !lg . t0.16 won 23:52:39 9. Brannock the Draconian Barricade (L27 DrFi of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-03-24 23:34:52, with 1916928 points after 56333 turns and 2:17:39. 23:52:44 yeah three sounds reasonable for me this time, but we'll have to see 23:53:02 the only rule we have is established by bh 23:53:05 -!- Galewind has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:53:17 if you haven't got a win in t yet, try to get a win, then you can do w/e 23:53:27 so congrats on following the bh rule 23:53:30 highly reasonable 23:54:11 hmm 23:54:25 I should ascend tonight so I can try to cash in on 200 pt humans 23:54:32 http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.19/clans/elliptic.html 23:54:37 now that clan name is quite a mouthful 23:54:54 is it being truncated? 23:55:04 &rc elliptic 0.19 cdo 23:55:20 http://crawl.develz.org/configs/0.19/elliptic.rc 23:55:30 mastered is the last word 23:55:37 ah 23:55:44 &rc elliptic 0.19 cbro 23:55:47 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.19/elliptic.rc 23:56:03 hm, I guess I just accidentally pasted a newline there 23:56:15 with a clan name like that, you can't lose 23:56:20 http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.19/clans/charmandara.html good clan name 23:56:34 heh 23:57:41 i'm thinking i'm gonna win all my chars this t. 23:57:54 ganbatte 23:58:38 didn't you kill a husu 23:58:50 to an adder on d:2 23:58:50 (unforgivable!) 23:59:32 i did not kill a single husu to an adder this t. 23:59:39 precisely 23:59:48 !lg . husu t s=killer 23:59:49 3 games for PleasingFungus (husu t): 2x an adder, a killer bee