00:00:02 -!- omarax_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:04:10 fedhas piety decays now? 00:07:24 %git fad57b4 00:07:24 07MarvinPA02 * 0.19-a0-1143-gfad57b4: Give Fedhas and Cheibriados piety decay 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fad57b473fa9 00:07:32 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:08:45 -!- halv has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:09:56 rip Fedhas 00:10:26 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:10:29 -!- eb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:13:36 alas 00:19:36 -!- Goblin1989 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:20:13 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:20:20 -!- halv has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:20:20 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:27:49 -!- halv has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:31:34 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1920-g83281cb (34) 00:38:02 the bot spam tavern thread kinda bugs me. it's stupidly simple to make an adjustment to the bot code. I just like keeping in sync with the other servers. in the past, seemed like it was elliptic or |amethyst making the call on setting new thresholds, and I'd just cherry-pick the commit or manually edit it 00:39:07 what will it take to make a decision on this? or do I need to be proactive with this? Seems like such a minor thing to me, but if it's actually causing people to actually leave the chatroom because of it, then sure, it can be adjusted. 00:41:06 if anyone is around 00:41:09 https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScJuQWMNx0v0yFMHyE4kx9uiTp3mpentPz6LdcAz4KrzA7ciA/viewform 00:41:12 is the current survey 00:41:38 I've made some edits and it seems to be in a decent state, but if people have suggestions 00:41:58 let me know, since I'll want to check with chequers and then send this to our translators soon 00:42:18 I don't know how to answer "how often do you play" 00:42:36 oh, since it varies? 00:42:39 yeah 00:42:53 I guess for longtime players like us, that's a tricky one 00:43:15 rchandra: suggestion on an option that would cover your play habits? 00:43:31 "I only play with weird glyph mappings for death cobs" 00:43:31 johnstein: ##crawl really doesn't look very spammy to me except at the times when someone is scumming abyss and entering and exiting a ton for no reason 00:43:31 elliptic: You have 5 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:43:34 -!- halv2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:43:37 when I get in a crawl mood, I play daily. When I don't, it can be months 00:44:08 I guess a few times a year covers that 00:44:09 gammafunk: why wouldn't they be % like other food 00:44:20 rchandra: because then you mistake them for actual food!!! 00:44:36 feature 00:44:38 johnstein: I'm certainly not opposed to reducing the messages, but I think the people who are complaining about it will only stop complaining when there is only one message per hour or so 00:45:23 gammafunk: you could phrase it in games or hours per year 00:45:32 hrm 00:45:48 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:33 I threw my hat into Kramin's court 00:46:42 I think we should create ##crawl-announcements 00:46:54 and all bots just announce everything. then relay bots pare it down 00:47:25 it's the simplest solution for me, personally, and should be easier to scale 00:47:30 and keep synchronized 00:48:03 and who runs the "relay bots"? where are they relaying messages to? 00:48:30 I would assume there'd be a single bot for ##crawl 00:48:42 probably a version of Krammell 00:48:44 the only relay bot I know of is Krammell 00:48:53 OCTOTROG is also a relay bot 00:48:59 that's what we use 00:49:08 but easier to config a single bot 00:49:22 than try to get all server admins to synchronize 00:49:42 elliptic: kramell has this feature where it can have a group of users you set with the bot and the bot will join a specific channel, I think 00:49:54 since it's a single person. dunno who that person is, but we are all volunteers, so probably doesn't really matter. as long as they are reachable and reasonable 00:49:54 I agree that it would be good if there was only a single configuration to tweak 00:50:11 gammafunk: I know, but does it actually filter milestones by type at all? 00:50:17 or just by name 00:50:19 I don't know if Krammell can be filtered 00:50:26 yeah, Kramin would have to comment 00:51:05 I don't think OCTOTROG filters anything, cept for name 00:51:22 ??krammell 00:51:23 krammell ~ kramell[1/6]: Allows you to get announcements for your clan in a private channel. It will also allow you to query Sequell or Cheibriados from your private channel. 00:51:27 ??krammell[git 00:51:28 I don't have a page labeled krammell[git in my learndb. 00:51:41 filtering the current output in any sort of smart way similar to what ##crawl currently has sounds pretty annoying 00:51:42 ??kramell[git 00:51:43 kramell[6/6]: Source: https://github.com/Kramin42/Kramell/blob/master/server.js 00:51:58 ??bots 00:51:59 bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Lantell (CUE, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^), Eksell (CXC, |), Jorgrell (CJR, =); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 00:52:16 ??sizzell[git 00:52:16 sizzell[2/2]: Source at https://github.com/crawl/sizzell 00:52:20 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:52:22 could change the output to something more parseable if it was just being sent to ##crawl-announcements of course 00:52:30 yea 00:52:35 how about keeping a priority ordering of milestones by type 00:52:37 good point 00:52:49 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:52:53 and the bot relays them all, but not the lower ones if volume is currently too high 00:53:09 so during a tournament there would be only higher level milestones 00:53:22 the extra annoying part for me is whatever change I make for ##crawl, I have to make the inverse change on my other bot that relays the ignored stuff in #octolog 00:54:10 so we get a full set. I need to just start announcing in ##crawl-announcements with one that does everything, but then there's 3 bots. then factor in the other two for dev stuff. I have a lot of crawl bots connected to IRC atm 00:54:51 priority level sounds ok. till you need to add intermediate levels :P 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:05:12 ok I set up ##crawl-announcements 01:05:29 so if anyone wants to do some testing, we have live data 01:06:23 I just immediately return 1; in newsworthy(). I might dial that down a smidge to still ignore the badusers at some point if this goes official 01:07:32 in the long run it might make sense to just relay the raw milestone/logfile lines there (probably with a prefix to indicate which type it is) and let relay bots do all the parsing/filtering/formatting 01:10:07 yea. agreed. hoping that this gets the discussion moving forward 01:12:29 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:15:17 johnstein: are you seeing issues with cbro in recent days due to players coming from cao? 01:15:20 ^vps 01:15:23 CBRO disk usage=68% | RAM usage=31% | uptime/CPU= 01:15:22 up 709 days, 10:34, 8 users, load average: 3.58, 4.02, 3.17 01:15:35 4 is about max 01:15:46 so yea. I think I'm feeling it 01:15:48 I see, so we can't get many more 01:16:06 it kinda feels like tourney time right now according to that ^vps 01:16:17 but earlier it was better I think 01:16:47 but yea. I'm actually really worried about tourney with the current load 01:17:05 there's a huge spike usually. especially first few days. 01:17:30 and I can't upgrade anymore (I don't think) 01:20:03 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1920-g83281cb (34) 01:21:32 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:26:08 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:42:55 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 01:43:00 -!- blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:43:04 I'm not sure how to get people to play on cjr more 01:43:26 I think cjr is getting some of those users, but clearly not as many as it could 01:43:38 -!- halv has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:49:52 -!- halv has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:51:36 how many players do you think don't play on cjr because of its "unique" qualities 01:52:17 I can't imagine too many, but dwarf language by default is maybe a problem 01:52:31 maybe we can get zibudo to turn that off 01:53:21 the zany home page and the cursor are not a big deal, but that one is pretty aggravating 01:54:30 -!- halv has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:54:51 i've moved over to cjr 01:54:57 haha, dwarf is default? 01:55:27 i've been using dwarf for like 2 years anyway, but i did think it was strange when i was moving my rc over and looked at the one i was copying over 01:55:31 you really think the home page and cursor are not a big deal? 01:55:42 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1920-g83281cb 01:55:46 the homepage isn't 01:55:58 the cursor is cute, but it might be weirdd 01:55:59 doesn't the homepage play some awful song or something? 01:56:10 oh, if it does that might be annoying 01:56:14 i've never had my volume on 01:56:15 i sent a cjr link to someone who doesn't play crawl and she was horrified and closed it instantly 01:56:47 yeah it plays an awful midi song 01:56:50 the mouse cursor thing fucked with me because for some reason it came up while i was in lair a while ago and appeared right in a tile 01:56:55 I mean, sure it is 01:57:01 and i was like "WHAT THE HELL IS JORGRUN DOING IN LAIR?" 01:57:12 but other than that i don't think that part is a big deal either 01:57:15 that's a way bigger issue to me than the mouse or dwarflang 01:57:17 but what are we going to do, demand zibudo run his server the way we want 01:57:37 well I think dwarflang is by far the biggest issue, since that affects every message in a game 01:57:40 making it harder to read 01:57:47 the home page is only seen if you're not in the lobby 01:57:58 but yeah, honestly i switched to cjr because cbro got uncomfortably laggy after cao went down 01:58:05 or does that play on the lobby? 01:58:11 again, i don't know 01:58:12 it doesn't play in the lobby i think 01:58:13 i can check 01:58:18 yeah, I don't hear it on the lobby 01:58:36 but i think a lot of "potential players" never make it that far 01:58:39 haha 01:58:54 huh, never knew about any of that (except the cursor as Elf mentioned it before) 01:58:57 ok, the song on the homepage is not good, but i can't imagine it's terrible enough to drive people off either 01:59:11 when you go directly to game places, and have an rc etc, it doesn't come up 01:59:16 i would see the homepage and conclude, oh huh, i guess this page i thought was a crawl server is infected by weird music malware 01:59:31 yeah, ok, i could see that 01:59:37 well again I think we'd give people the link to the lobby 01:59:40 and not to the home page 01:59:47 and it's not really presented in a friendly way 01:59:49 ??cjr 01:59:49 cjr[1/2]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks) and Grammus. SSH login info: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html. 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:07 most players aren't reading learndb to get to their first game of crawl 02:00:16 sure 02:00:21 but that link could be updated as well, of course 02:00:37 if you want to request a change to zibudo, feel free! 02:00:39 he likes memes though 02:02:07 heh 02:08:29 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 02:10:39 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:16:40 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:21:20 -!- Vall has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:23:05 !tell chequers I've made some final reorganization/edits to the survey. I think it's in a pretty reasonable state. Let me know if it's ready to send to translators 02:23:05 gammafunk: OK, I'll let chequers know. 02:30:54 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:31:37 -!- destrovel has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:39:28 -!- Codrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:44:39 -!- scotchmint has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:50:56 gammafunk: where is the survey 02:51:55 crap 02:52:06 https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScJuQWMNx0v0yFMHyE4kx9uiTp3mpentPz6LdcAz4KrzA7ciA/viewform 02:52:10 minmay: ^ 02:53:35 amalloy: cjr is an altogether awful experience, and it takes time to build a resistance to the memes 02:54:19 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1920-g83281cb 02:54:21 I wouldn't ever present it to someone as their first impression of crawl 02:54:47 hey, if someone wants to set up a memeless, safe server, they're welcome to do so! 02:55:13 neil offered to let someone admin cszo, but no one really had the time I think. Or maybe he changed his mind 02:56:17 yay, i contributed 02:56:48 also, i really don't think it's that awful an experience, but i also knew what i wanted to do and didn't bother with most of the bs on cjr 02:57:12 i guess if i were just presented with the web address i probably would have loaded it up and been like "what the shit is this?" 02:59:10 we should have a cjr skin for scoreboard 02:59:17 it will feature grids 02:59:24 I know Kramin is down 02:59:36 ??scoreboard 02:59:36 scoreboard[1/2]: {cf. http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/overview.html } 02:59:42 ??scoreboard[2 02:59:42 scoreboard[2/2]: https://crawl.project357.org/scoreboard/ 03:00:00 that needs updating 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:11 !learn set scoreboard[2] New scoreboard in testing: https://scoreboard.crawl.develz.org/ 03:00:12 scoreboard[2/2]: New scoreboard in testing: https://scoreboard.crawl.develz.org/ 03:00:24 I would put them both in [1 03:00:35 hrm, I'm not sure about that learndb thing in 1 03:00:35 I might be biased 03:00:44 is that some kind of learndb hyperlinking 03:01:34 oh, chequers updated the hosted version 03:01:50 the age groups on the survey are making me sad 03:01:57 as a 26 yo, yes 03:02:06 Age: even older than nicolae 03:03:45 !learn set scoreboard[1] CAO scoring: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/overview.html ; New scoreboard: https://scoreboard.crawl.develz.org/ 03:03:45 scoreboard[1/2]: CAO scoring: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/overview.html ; New scoreboard: https://scoreboard.crawl.develz.org/ 03:03:51 !learn del scoreboard[2] 03:03:52 Deleted scoreboard[2/2]: New scoreboard in testing: https://scoreboard.crawl.develz.org/ 03:03:53 ??score 03:03:53 score[1/4]: modified XP + runes * (runes + 12) * 1000. For winners, add 254000 + 2000 * runes + 6250000000 * runes^2/turns. 03:03:56 ??score[2 03:03:56 score[2/4]: Modified xp = 0.7 * xp up to 250,000 + 0.4 * xp between 250,000 and 1M + 0.2 * xp between 1M and 3M + 0.1 * xp above 3M. For an XL27 character, this works out to roughly 0.5M + XP/10. Note that there is an XP cap of 9M (but not in 0.16). 03:03:58 ??score[3 03:03:58 score[3/4]: As of 0.9, inventory value no longer contributes towards your score. 03:03:59 ??score[4 03:03:59 score[4/4]: This doesn't matter. 03:04:10 woah cool 03:04:20 ??scores 03:04:20 I don't have a page labeled scores in my learndb. Did you mean: score, scoring. 03:04:38 !learn del score[3] 03:04:39 Deleted score[3/4]: As of 0.9, inventory value no longer contributes towards your score. 03:04:50 !learn del score[3] 03:04:50 Deleted score[3/3]: This doesn't matter. 03:05:07 I forgot to say aut scoring was the best way to improve DCSS 03:05:36 !learn add score see {scoreboard} 03:05:36 score[3/3]: see {scoreboard} 03:05:39 ??score[3 03:05:39 scoreboard[1/1]: CAO scoring: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/overview.html ; New scoreboard: https://scoreboard.crawl.develz.org/ 03:07:47 gammafunk and others: scoreboard now has slightly tighter spacing, and rank #s 03:11:26 you put that in the scoreboard changelog, zxc 03:12:00 gammafunk: huh? 03:12:15 I want input on whether it's better or not, now 03:12:27 oh, I wasn't sure why you were telling me 03:12:32 let me take a look 03:13:04 should I look on a player page 03:13:16 main pages, player page too 03:13:36 I guess I'd have to check an updated page 03:13:51 the spacing looks nice on the main page 03:14:27 stripes were also darkened 03:14:39 yeah, I see 03:14:49 is that issue with table expansion addressable? 03:14:56 how I click on "show remaining N wins" 03:15:05 yeah, if you check my page it's the updated vers 03:15:08 oh 03:15:18 but we're going to switch it again to kramin's PR with datatables 03:15:25 allowing filtering and sorting by column 03:15:29 !nick zxc 03:15:30 Mapping zxc => zzxc 03:15:49 looks good 03:15:50 someone had zxc on cao already 03:16:00 and the ranking on wins is nice, that was a thing I wanted 03:16:08 (bring on central auth!) 03:16:15 what about the sorting based on date? 03:16:19 currently the oldest win has the highest # 03:16:25 which is the opposite of cao 03:16:48 hrm, yeah 03:16:50 that I don't like, but we want to highlight more recent stuff over less recent 03:17:03 I guess that number is a tad misleading in that it means "Nth row of table" 03:17:06 but not "Nth win" 03:17:24 that's kind of a problem then, so I can't look at a row and go "that's my Nth" win 03:17:32 I have to do Wins-N logic 03:17:47 I guess that's not really a big concern though 03:17:53 I do agree seeing more recent ones is better 03:18:17 zxc: maybe at some point there can just be sorts on sortable columns? 03:18:37 would require some javascript but not super hard 03:18:39 gammafunk: see kramin's PR 03:18:44 ok, cool 03:18:52 which involves jquery datatables 03:18:58 however, I want to use vue.js or something 03:18:59 well that's all the FR's I have, I guess 03:19:09 let me send this to a seasoned winscummer 03:19:32 !tell elliptic Any comments on layout of new scoring player pages? https://scoreboard.crawl.develz.org/players/elliptic.html 03:19:33 gammafunk: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 03:19:56 gammafunk: https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/2109690/19624464/73fdf4ce-9953-11e6-8c27-73a3d034afb0.png 03:20:10 very cool, but question 03:20:20 how are you guys showing combo/species/class high scores of the player? 03:20:21 yes there will be grids 03:20:25 :P 03:20:30 Will that be under the cheevo display? 03:20:33 no grids! 03:20:41 !flip grids 03:20:42 (╯°□°)╯︵spᴉɹƃ 03:20:50 had to use a *real* bot that doesn't go down! 03:20:51 -!- PElf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:20:53 oh, elliptic's page is messed up, though 03:20:59 !flip $(!always use grids) 03:21:00 (╯°□°)╯︵¡SpIɹפ ƎS∩ S⅄∀M˥∀ ¡spᴉɹפ ǝs∩ sʎɐʍl∀ ¡spᴉɹפ-פ ¡ǝs∩-∩ ¡sʎɐʍl∀-∀ ¡פ∩∀ 03:21:15 I am not sure on when pages are getting updated right now 03:21:20 you need to be playing games I believe 03:21:21 chequers said something about when a new game is played 03:21:30 but maybe chequers updated my page manually, which can be done 03:21:53 zxc: did you see my ? above about high scores on the player page? 03:21:59 yep, I am not sure 03:22:06 suggestions welcome, so long as they don't involve grids 03:22:12 hrm 03:22:18 well, CAO doesn't use a grid for those 03:22:24 it just puts them in a list in a box 03:22:28 is that a grid? 03:22:38 debatable 03:22:52 I mean your cheevos there for elliptic are... 03:22:57 I'm going to say it....a grid... 03:23:11 yeah, because I didn't do em 03:23:14 grids! 03:23:19 sneaky people adding grids everywhere 03:23:19 you said it, Kramin 03:23:40 Kramin aced linear algebra 03:23:44 all those matrices are just grids 03:23:55 Kramin acid liner algebra you mean 03:24:00 matrices ftw 03:25:35 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1920-g83281cb (34) 03:27:44 I think we should have some 2 dimensional lists 03:27:50 not grids 03:27:53 ok 03:28:01 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:28:01 would never suggest a grid 03:28:38 we can call that a 'dirg' 03:28:43 sure 03:28:44 lol 03:28:52 !flip dirg 03:28:53 (╯°□°)╯︵ƃɹᴉp 03:29:03 nearly 03:29:04 !flip grid 03:29:04 (╯°□°)╯︵pᴉɹƃ 03:29:21 a pᴉɹƃ 03:29:29 !flip pᴉɹƃ 03:29:30 (╯°□°)╯︵ƃɹᴉd 03:29:39 oops 03:29:40 I am dissapoint 03:29:57 I can fix that, but man I need a better flip system 03:30:07 that automatically makes the mappings two-way 03:30:35 need to store the last flipped thing in the db 03:30:39 -!- Zeor1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:30:39 and then have !unflip 03:30:44 which puts is back 03:30:55 then you couldn't use it in beem 03:30:59 true 03:31:12 beem can use !flip? 03:31:13 you can't edit learndb from discord, can you? 03:31:16 sure, why not 03:31:17 no 03:31:31 well 03:31:37 you can if I add it to 03:31:39 imagine the mayhem that would result 03:31:43 ??:acl:proxy 03:31:43 :acl:proxy[1/1]: Kramell 03:31:54 PElf: beem can use any command that doesn't try to write to the leardb or that is otherwise specially forbidden, like !tell and !messages 03:31:59 which I haven't for the discord one 03:32:13 yeah, probably not a great idea 03:32:14 i didn't think webtiles would support the flipped characters 03:32:25 however I've begung to wonder if maybe a common "roguelike learndb" would be good 03:32:34 since you've made kramell so general these days 03:32:37 the discord one, at least 03:33:10 Kramin: also wondering if maybe kramell could be split off to be the general discord bot, and I could have cerebot for dcss stuff in particular 03:33:17 not sure if that would really help anything 03:33:31 I guess it depends on what direction you want to take discord support 03:34:02 PElf: browser has unicode support, yeah, japanese and korean players use their languages in chat just fine 03:34:04 I only inteded it to be for proxying really 03:34:13 the vanity roles was just easy to add 03:34:52 Kramin: it still needs chei support and autorelay from sequell to chei? 03:34:58 I could probably make a PR for that 03:35:11 cogmind learndb would be nice 03:35:14 yeah 03:35:18 come to think of it... cogmind scoreboard 03:35:19 :D 03:35:25 that too 03:35:30 well then 03:35:47 I figured discord people didn't care too much about %git and such 03:35:50 but yeah 03:35:53 PR away 03:36:04 yeah it's true, just nice to have 03:36:07 just dont be too horrified at my 1 file monster 03:36:10 Kramin: the other thing is queries for old versions 03:36:13 for monster 03:36:21 esp. stable, which gretell doesn't have 03:36:30 @0.18?goblin 03:36:38 it has no support for that and 03:36:39 @?goblin 03:36:40 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 3-5 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: human. 03:36:45 @?hornet 03:36:46 hornet (08y) | Spd: 15 | HD: 6 | HP: 27-39 | AC/EV: 6/14 | Dam: 1804(paralyse) | fly | Res: 06magic(30) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 283 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 03:36:50 @?wasp 03:36:50 unknown monster: "wasp" 03:36:56 yeah both versions are just trunk 03:37:01 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.19-a0-1682-g5114f93 03:37:01 %??-version 03:37:05 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.18.1-8-gdd0e5ea 03:37:05 %?-version 03:37:51 wasp (08y) | Spd: 15 | HD: 4 | HP: 18-26 | AC/EV: 5/14 | Dam: 1304(paralyse) | fly | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 126 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 03:37:51 %0.18?wasp 03:37:56 all the way back to 03:38:02 midge (095) | Speed: 10 | HD: 2 | Health: 6-16 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Damage: 806(blink) | Flags: 05demonic, fly | Res: 06magic(8), 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 13. 03:38:02 %0.9?midge 03:38:07 Could not execute monster-0.8: No such file or directory 03:38:07 %0.8?midge 03:38:14 0.9 is oldest 03:38:42 Grinder (025) | Speed: 10 | HD: 6 | Health: 40 | AC/EV: 3/11 | Damage: 11 | Flags: 05demonic, evil, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(24), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 322 | Sp: pain (d10), paralyse, blink. 03:38:42 %0.9?grinder 03:38:53 @??grinder 03:38:53 Grinder (025) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 32-45 | AC/EV: 3/11 | Dam: 1105(pain) | 05demonic, 10items, 10doors, evil, see invisible | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08cleanse++, 11silver | XP: 276 | Sp: pain (d14) [06!sil], paralyse [06!sil], blink [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: human. 03:39:02 fixed hp 03:39:07 like zot intended 03:39:16 they buffed grinder 03:39:22 I want my money back 03:39:30 PleasingFungus hates players, and wants them to die 03:39:35 d10 -> d14 03:39:38 oh 03:39:43 not sure who did that 03:40:03 well grinder's ave hp is also a bit lower 03:40:19 which is a nerf to grinder, so nm 03:40:31 xp 322 -> 276 03:40:37 oh and he has less mr now 03:40:40 so it balances out 03:40:46 doubt it 03:41:04 !killratio grinder * trunk 03:41:11 are you kidding? silver vulnerability right there 03:41:13 you can't lose 03:41:29 grinder wins 18.63% of battles against * (trunk). 03:41:46 !killratio grinder * cv=0.9 03:41:46 grinder wins 35.24% of battles against * (cv=0.9). 03:41:52 damn 03:41:56 spoiler: players were worse at crawl at that time 03:42:15 that biases winrate results when you look by version 03:42:55 only tryhards play trunk 03:43:03 !killratio grinder * cv=0.18 03:43:07 grinder wins 17.26% of battles against * (cv=0.18). 03:43:11 ok 03:43:12 nvm 03:43:16 if you never make a mistake like me, you want the ultimate challenge, sure 03:43:39 !lg gammafunk 03:43:40 3886. gammafunk the Ruinous (L27 KoIE of Sif Muna), blasted by a red draconian annihilator (crystal spear) on Zot:4 on 2016-10-19 05:58:42, with 620198 points after 125051 turns and 10:20:42. 03:43:48 that was a hack 03:43:48 all according to keikaku 03:43:54 mysterious hacker known as gammafunk 03:44:21 I'm getting the zot deaths out of my system, that's two in trunk 03:44:34 .splatratio kramin 03:44:35 % of xl17 chars killed recentish: 21/25x Kramin [84.00%] 03:44:38 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:44:39 my god... 03:44:45