00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:35 -!- meatpath has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:56 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:12:41 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:01 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:19:05 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:22:09 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:33 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:24:01 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:25:23 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29:02 !tell dpeg I wonder if part of the problem is the perceived limited diversity in amulets 00:29:02 Brannock: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 00:29:18 ??cao 00:29:18 cao[1/3]: CAO is offline as of Oct 17. until its disk issues can be fixed. It's not expected that any in-progress games will be lost, but we don't have an ETA on a fix. For US players, please try either {cbro} or {cjr} in the meantime. 00:30:11 !edit cao s/17./17,/ 00:30:18 ugh 00:30:19 I should go to bed 00:33:31 !learn e cao[1 s/Oct 17./Oct 17,/ 00:33:32 cao[1/3]: CAO is offline as of Oct 17, until its disk issues can be fixed. It's not expected that any in-progress games will be lost, but we don't have an ETA on a fix. For US players, please try either {cbro} or {cjr} in the meantime. 00:34:54 how dare people edit my punctuation 00:35:07 I'm a master of grammar and speling 00:35:26 harder to correct your punctuation when you don't use any, ofc 00:36:43 is there a way to see what title names correspond to, bot-wise? 00:37:00 !title conjurations 00:37:04 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:37:05 !titles conjurations 00:37:09 I mean the reverse mapping 00:37:15 yeah, i'm trying to remember how it works 00:37:20 ?/petrodigitator 00:37:20 No matches. 00:37:25 !title petrodigitator 00:37:39 none of those are working anyway. wonder what the command it 00:37:41 *is 00:37:53 !title is the command for skill->name 00:38:00 sequell was just slow 00:38:02 !cmd !title 00:38:03 Command: !title => .echo ${*}: $(or $(=title.title recent $*) $(=title.skill.noinv recent $*) $(=title.skill.inv recent $*) $(=title.title !recent $*) $(=title.skill.noinv !recent $*) $(.echo cannot understand ${*}.)) 00:38:11 hrm 00:38:17 conjurations: Conjurer (1-7), Destroyer (8-14), Devastator (15-20), Ruinous (21-26), Annihilator (27) 00:38:21 there we go 00:38:22 !title petrodigitator 00:38:22 petrodigitator: Earth Magic 27 00:38:23 very slow 00:38:24 ah 00:38:25 petrodigitator: Earth Magic 27 00:38:27 it does go both ways 00:38:27 Subcommand $(=title.skill.inv recent is the command for skill->name) failed: Broken query near '>name s=title fmt:"${.}" stub:""' in $(or $(=title.title recent $... 00:38:34 !title apostate 00:38:35 apostate: Invocations, Invocations (Beogh) 00:38:54 oh, the old titles rotated out 00:38:56 sweet 00:41:26 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:42:05 Azureath: Demonspawn + 27 Invocations + Evil god = "Blood Saint 00:42:20 Azureath: i want 00:42:26 blood saint is already a title 00:42:30 oh? 00:42:31 i'm nearly sure 00:42:34 !title blood saint 00:42:35 blood saint: Invocations (Makhleb), Invocations (Lugonu) 00:42:41 hm 00:43:00 oh, lol 00:43:03 it's almost exactly those conditions 00:43:31 possibly exactly those? 00:43:48 meaning only for Ds? 00:43:55 also 00:43:59 !title planerender 00:44:00 planerender: Summonings 27 00:44:02 !title summonings 00:44:04 yes 00:44:08 !title chaos champiojn 00:44:10 !title chaos champion 00:44:14 ds, 27 invo, evil god 00:44:28 summonings: Caller (1-7), Summoner (8-14), Convoker (15-20), Demonologist (21-26), Worldbinder (21-26), Planerender (27), Hellbinder (27) 00:44:30 Subcommand $(=title.skill.inv recent chaos champiojn) failed: No keyword 'champiojn' in $(or $(=title.title recent $... 00:44:33 chaos champion: cannot understand chaos champion. 00:44:37 !title black sun 00:44:38 black sun: Necromancy 6-27 00:44:45 even a chaos champion can't understand chaos champions 00:44:46 big range there 00:44:54 gammafunk, of course they can't, they were removed! 00:45:03 were they? 00:45:04 can one truly understand Removal 00:45:06 @??chaos champion 00:45:06 unknown monster: "chaos champion" 00:45:08 Brannock: because it's secretly a kiku title 00:45:09 oh 00:45:27 !gitgrep 1 [Cc]haos [Cc]hampion 00:45:28 %git HEAD^{/[Cc]haos [Cc]hampion} 00:45:28 07Brannock02 * 0.19-a0-1739-gda47fb9: Fix broken pan_disco_hall (MarvinPA) 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/da47fb9c30df 00:45:33 !gitgrep 2 [Cc]haos [Cc]hampion 00:45:33 %git HEAD^{/[Cc]haos [Cc]hampion}^^{/[Cc]haos [Cc]hampion} 00:45:33 07Brannock02 * 0.19-a0-1726-gd0de9cb: Remove chaos champions 10(3 weeks ago, 17 files, 8+ 108-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d0de9cb93ce3 00:45:35 gammafunk, I got rid of putrid demonspawn and chaos champions 00:45:57 ok, good to know 00:46:05 and since they can't be used in randomtiles, I never saw any error 00:46:08 I'm tempted to ugly thingify demonspawn bands 00:46:24 But I think they're okay (for now) 00:47:16 sorry, tempted to what 00:47:51 oh man 00:47:56 make it so Demonspawn jobs all show up as one flavor. So you'd have an entire pack of Torturous black suns, corrupters, warmongers, blood saints 00:48:03 mooon is pre-digging an ascension path for his sacrifice cat 00:48:10 and a second pack of Gelid x/y/z/a 00:48:28 r-i was talking about doing something like that. possibly exactly that 00:48:32 i was helping with the code 00:48:34 yes, we discussed the idea 00:49:02 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:49:12 well with monsters having such a wide variety of attacks 00:49:26 for most chars there's one that you're the most scared of and the rest are pretty "meh" 00:49:55 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 00:50:28 not sure seeing a pack of all the same kind will help gameplay, but maybe it will feel thematic 00:50:48 It'd help with the four flavors merging into each other, I think 00:51:05 one entire pack with spiny; another pack with double HP and extra attacks.. and so on 00:51:16 whereas if you mix them up, it becomes a slurry 00:51:20 think of cooking here 00:51:26 mm... slurry 00:51:40 you want a food item with one specific flavor and another with a different flavor. if you toss it into a blender... 00:51:40 one entire pack with spiny? 00:51:44 Torturous 00:51:55 well those things are just very secondary...oh 00:51:57 I see what you mean 00:52:03 :) 00:52:07 you're saying all will be tortouous, but the classes will vary 00:52:10 Yes 00:52:14 I was saying all the same class would be bad 00:52:28 yeah I mean those things are so relatively less important anyhow, but sure 00:53:03 I have a plan C for if the current iteration doesn't work out, or if the themed pack doesn't work out 00:53:03 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:53:08 But it's just a further bandage 00:53:12 (cutting 16 combos down to 8) 00:53:13 does zin's "protection from chaos" extend to anything other than mutations/polymorph? 00:53:23 hell effects 00:53:30 hmm 00:53:34 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:54:26 gammafunk, one thing I particularly enjoy about current Ds is that each class corresponds to a named panlord 00:54:38 I love little thematic patterns like that 00:54:51 yeah, but which one is karkat 00:55:00 well you're talking to the wrong guy 00:55:02 don't answer that. 00:55:11 ugh, I still need to finish Homestuck. I got stalled after uhh, the second reset 00:55:17 It got way too complicated even for me 00:55:50 I'm more just concerned how they play, I can appreciate theme a lot more when the monster's presence feels impactful 00:56:14 i enjoyed homestuck but i couldn't honestly recommend that someone else read it 00:56:23 it gets very very bogged down after act 4 or 5 00:56:34 people keep saying homestuck and I keep seeing "homestar" 00:56:47 but they're not the same 00:56:47 that being said, i will continue to sneak subtle homestuck references into crawl. 00:56:48 homestuck has an extremely specific audience: people born in the second half of the 80s, who grew up playing JRPGs and then read a bunch of webcomics 00:56:52 it's nearly impenetrable to anyone else 00:56:59 wrong 00:57:09 the fanbase was overwhelmingly dominated by people born in the early 00s 00:57:20 8 to 10 year olds? 00:57:24 at the time it was being released I mean 00:57:30 those 80s JRPGs had huge influence anyhow 00:57:36 er 00:57:38 those JRPGs 00:57:43 many of which were not in the 80s 00:57:43 enh, i guess late 90s, sorry 00:57:54 younger than me, so they're all the same basically 00:57:54 gammafunk: corrupter/mnoleg, warmonger/cerebov, blood saint/lom lobon, black sun/gloorx vloq 00:58:09 Brannock: if you have to explain the theme, does it really work? 00:58:11 think about it... 00:58:17 themes are... not.. jokes!! 00:58:18 blood saint isn't very lom lobonny 00:58:26 that's right. theme is just one big joke! 00:58:28 greater destruction encompasses a lot 00:58:29 ha ha ha ha 00:58:35 CanOfWorms: conjurations are lom, i guess 00:58:42 @??lom lobon 00:58:42 Lom Lobon (12&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 19 | HP: 296-463 | AC/EV: 10/20 | Dam: 4012(antimagic) | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, evil, see invisible, fly | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08cleanse++ | XP: 11001 | Sp: conjure ball lightning [06!sil], glaciate (10-132) [06!sil], tornado [06!sil], major healing (50-240) [06!sil], blink .. 00:58:51 240? wow 00:59:02 @??blood saint 00:59:02 monstrous blood saint (126) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 114-152 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 20, 21, 21 | natural, 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil | Res: 06magic(60), 13torm | Vul: 08cleanse++, 11silver | XP: 1805 | Sp: legendary destruction (3d21 / 3d25 / 3d19) [11!AM], c.chaos [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:59:03 Brannock: right but cacodemon/v. ugly thing/neqo/tmons/abom/mnoleg sun demon/balrug/brimstone/cerebov titan/annihilator/rakshasa/lom curse skull/exec/all those undead things/gloorx 00:59:10 whoa now 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:25 crawl does the "associated with" thing lots and lots since it has a billion monsters, it's not something that's ever going to change; it's always just best when the monster really feels it has a solid, unique place in the design of its branch 01:00:37 Brannock: major healing is absolutely brutal 01:00:40 @??ereshkigal 01:00:40 Ereshkigal (00&) | Spd: 14 | HD: 18 | HP: 285-400 | AC/EV: 10/30 | Dam: 4013(drain) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08cleanse++ | XP: 12969 | Sp: b.cold (3d27) [06!sil], s.torment [06!sil], sum.greater demon [06!sil], paralyse [06!sil], silence [06!sil], major healing (5.. 01:00:40 ds monsters have some gimmicks that are kind of cool, but it's a small fraction 01:00:47 I think it's neat that we have Demonspawn that could, in theory, end up becoming panlords 01:00:53 One day long long from now 01:00:58 jesus, what is this...LORE?! 01:01:01 lore..! 01:01:10 i disclaim this lore 01:01:15 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 01:01:18 but your todo... 01:01:33 implied and subtle lore is very good, imo 01:01:34 i do not endorse it or associate myself with it. i wholly divest myself from it 01:01:38 Brannock: sure! 01:01:40 2 01:01:46 i'm just not super excited about this specific lore 01:01:58 sometime i should push that silly hell lord description rewrite, maybe 01:02:01 maybe not 01:02:04 what rewrite is this? 01:02:08 I love things with lots of words 01:02:12 it's lurking near the very bottom of my TODO 01:02:22 for the last 2 years or so 01:02:31 put it in the 0.20 plan imo 01:02:34 i posted it on tavern as a joke and people liked it 01:02:35 haha 01:02:42 0.20 is a very good version 01:02:51 i'll give it another pass and see if mpa likes it, maybe. who knows. 01:02:58 i'm retired, so there's no rush. 01:03:22 Brannock: good for newcrawl (tm), you mean? 01:03:34 come on gammafunk 01:03:38 you've been working on this game long enough 01:03:42 0.27 is newcrawl 01:03:53 apparently we've hit some kind of breaking point 01:03:59 that newcrawl as a meme exists 01:04:03 people don't play "newcrawl" 01:04:23 this probably was already in existance in 0.17, but I feel I've heard it more frequently 01:04:33 ??newcrawl 01:04:33 I don't have a page labeled newcrawl in my learndb. Did you mean: ebcrawl, eocrawl, hexcrawl, ncrawl, wcrawl. 01:04:38 good variants 01:04:40 ??ncrawl 01:04:40 ncrawl[1/8]: features: poison storm, choko storm, firestorm storm, mephitic storm, iood storm, dispel storm, oklob storm, bug storm, inaccuracy storm, chaos storm, mutagenic storm, drain storm, blink storm, apport storm, hydra storm, thunder storm, porkalator storm, wall storm, xom storm, door storm, enslavement storm, deconstruction storm 01:04:51 ??eocrawl 01:04:51 eocrawl[1/3]: get rid of: (by priority) labs. (by alphabet) badforms beogh ctele extended felids gold good wands haste spell meph profane halls sirens submerging temple tso conducts zotdef. 01:04:57 ??ncrawl[3 01:04:57 ncrawl[3/8]: You see here 644 chokos. 01:05:37 !learn edit eocrawl[1] s/ctele // 01:05:38 eocrawl[1/3]: get rid of: (by priority) labs. (by alphabet) badforms beogh extended felids gold good wands haste spell meph profane halls sirens submerging temple tso conducts zotdef. 01:05:46 !learn edit eocrawl[1] s/zotdef // 01:05:46 No change: regex `zotdef ` does not match `get rid of: (by priority) labs. (by alphabet) badforms beogh extended felids gold good wands haste spell meph profane halls sirens submerging temple tso conducts zotdef.` 01:06:01 !learn edit eocrawl[1] s/ zotdef// 01:06:02 eocrawl[1/3]: get rid of: (by priority) labs. (by alphabet) badforms beogh extended felids gold good wands haste spell meph profane halls sirens submerging temple tso conducts. 01:06:13 !learn edit eocrawl[1] s/submerging // 01:06:14 eocrawl[1/3]: get rid of: (by priority) labs. (by alphabet) badforms beogh extended felids gold good wands haste spell meph profane halls sirens temple tso conducts. 01:06:25 submerging still exists 01:06:27 sort of 01:06:30 true 01:06:31 for which monster? 01:06:35 swamp worms 01:06:39 which are broken right now 01:06:41 i should fix them... 01:06:48 eoc can flame for a false edit if he likes 01:06:52 *flame me 01:07:08 oh, and 01:07:18 haste spell 01:07:18 !learn edit eocrawl[1] s/haste spell // 01:07:19 eocrawl[1/3]: get rid of: (by priority) labs. (by alphabet) badforms beogh extended felids gold good wands meph profane halls sirens temple tso conducts. 01:07:25 weird to get rid of gold, imo 01:07:37 gold is good 01:07:38 it will make shopping a lot simpler 01:07:48 gammafunk, are you working on/contemplating any particular projects? 01:08:04 gosh, the way you equate working on and contemplating 01:08:16 but yeah I have some things 01:08:42 -!- eb_ has quit [] 01:08:44 no, they don't involve hentai 01:08:56 reassuring 01:09:04 I was finally convinced it's just not the right fit for crawl 01:09:21 but I'm told furries might be 01:10:38 well, dragon's mask and scales already exist in crawl... 01:10:45 one thing I've been thinking about is essentially "passage of of golubria reform" 01:10:51 as well as dragon form 01:10:52 ? 01:10:53 not the spell, but the portal terrain feature gismo 01:11:07 basically to make passages into proper features where 01:11:12 what, creating an actual passage? 01:11:13 autotravel can work properly with them 01:11:25 they don't last that long.. 01:11:38 so that one-way (possibly also two-way, not sure if they're needed) passages can be used in levels 01:11:48 PleasingFungus: I mean as permanent features, like how we use in some wizlabs 01:12:10 currently those are bad to use extensively, since autoexplore and travel don't understand them 01:12:10 ahh 01:12:13 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:12:18 wouldn't affect the spell at all, those would work the same way 01:12:24 sounds like a fun challenge 01:12:33 yeah, adn one-way PoG for levels is nice to play with 01:12:51 could replace the 'teleporters' in ice caves? 01:12:56 yes 01:13:29 original design of moon base was going to be more interesting and feature these, but then I realized how they just break autoexplore/travel 01:13:33 but yeah that's just one thing 01:13:48 that and try to make some nice use of them outside of cute wizlab vaults 01:13:48 oh, is gammafunk responsible for Moon Base? 01:13:52 yep 01:13:56 very nice 01:13:57 I like Moon base 01:14:10 Brannock: read the hidden lore above wizlab_lehudib 01:14:14 !vault wizlab_lehudib 01:14:15 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/wizlab.des#L1781 01:14:19 the one thing I dislike about moon base is how the moon troll is "wearing" moon troll leather armor 01:14:23 my immersion...! 01:14:43 yeah shard, but that's... 01:14:50 hrm, guess it would be fixable since it's a proper monster 01:15:00 :) 01:15:03 fr unique name zhor 01:15:04 but it's also not something we do, have monsters drop unrands? 01:15:08 +d 01:15:14 you would love a way to use zhor as well! 01:15:23 what would happen if a second moon troll died? 01:15:31 jacquesderrida suggest we add some cute property based on its smelliness 01:15:49 PleasingFungus: well I think the major issue is that mtla can generate outside of the vault, no? 01:15:54 it makes you sick if you can smell? 01:15:54 imo we need a new Wizard 01:15:55 only one moon troll can place in the game 01:16:01 Brannock: actually, we don't! 01:16:03 what with Eringya et al being obsoleted 01:16:05 ??wizards_without_wizlabs 01:16:05 wizards without wizlabs[1/1]: Spell namesakes: Leda, Lee, Alistair, Ozocubu, Borgnjor, Maxwell, Olgreb, Gell, Yara. Artifact smiths: Ukta ({hat of the bear spirit}), Black/Doom Knight, Octopus King, The Captain, The Alchemist, Zhor, Cekugob. 01:16:09 if you want inspiration 01:16:14 create a permanent unbutcherable corpse named the moon troll leather armour 01:16:22 grunt also made some first-pass vaults for borg and ozo 01:16:23 if the mtla has already apppeared 01:16:30 any reason leda and lee are still different wizards? seems like they could just be merged 01:16:53 I like the name Ledas more, if that's what we do 01:16:56 Lee is maybe less exciting 01:16:57 Borg and Ozo are worthy I think, what with their implied variety. Maxwell, Gell, Yara, and Olgreb have plenty of themes to work with 01:17:04 yeah, leda's is pretty good 01:17:06 gammafunk: also a very good point, yes! 01:17:17 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:17:17 re mtla generating outside 01:17:31 also i just figured out 10663, i think, and it is a VERY VERY good bug 01:17:34 also the doom knight was the sword that was recently removed, right 01:17:47 !bug 10663 01:17:47 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10663 01:17:57 oh! 01:17:58 !learn edit wizards_without_wizlabs s/Black\/Doom Knight,// 01:17:58 wizards without wizlabs[1/1]: Spell namesakes: Leda, Lee, Alistair, Ozocubu, Borgnjor, Maxwell, Olgreb, Gell, Yara. Artifact smiths: Ukta ({hat of the bear spirit}), Octopus King, The Captain, The Alchemist, Zhor, Cekugob. 01:18:02 chei asked me about that again 01:18:10 what's happening? 01:18:11 noo brannock 01:18:15 you killed the black knight... 01:19:14 Maxwell's Silver Hammer is gone 01:19:18 !learn set wizards_without_wizlabs Spell namesakes: Leda, Lee, Alistair, Ozocubu, Borgnjor, Olgreb, Gell, Yara. Artifact smiths: Ukta ({hat of the bear spirit}), Black Knight, Maxwell, Octopus King, The Captain, The Alchemist, Zhor. 01:19:19 wizards without wizlabs[1/1]: Spell namesakes: Leda, Lee, Alistair, Ozocubu, Borgnjor, Olgreb, Gell, Yara. Artifact smiths: Ukta ({hat of the bear spirit}), Black Knight, Maxwell, Octopus King, The Captain, The Alchemist, Zhor. 01:19:19 Is it just Maxwell's armor that remians? 01:19:27 s/remians/remains 01:19:29 my last TrCK goes the warlock's mirror :( 01:19:31 *got 01:19:32 apparently etheric cage is also maxwell's 01:19:34 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:19:45 So Maxwell is some legendary artificier 01:19:49 it was their really weird looking thing that looked like some kind of cyber implant 01:19:53 so I was confused at first 01:20:01 That's a potential theme there 01:20:15 Some sort of experimental lab where artefacts are forged 01:20:19 Too bad Tukima's got nixed 01:20:36 oh, should tukima's be re-added 01:20:42 Brannock: making wizlabs is fun since you have much more freedom than for making most vaults, but it's also hard to come up with late-game threats that feel different enough 01:20:47 if you want to try 01:20:48 well, not the same vault, since it was bad 01:20:52 I mean, in the list 01:20:59 oh, sure 01:21:00 the power is yours 01:21:02 and eringya 01:21:04 You are a dev now! 01:21:15 I don't even need to be a dev!!! 01:21:22 also does eringya actually still have a reference? 01:21:25 eringya was actually someone copying a garden blueprint they saw at some museum 01:21:27 ??eringya 01:21:27 eringya's formal garden[1/1]: Centaurs, vine-covered earth elementals, fruit traps, troublesome fungi, thorn hunters. Removed in 0.17. 01:21:31 gammafunk, in full honestly I'm much more interested in earlygame than lategame, it's just that everyone whispering in my ear nowadays is lategame oriented 01:21:41 oubliette... oubliette... 01:21:45 !learn set wizards_without_wizlabs Spell namesakes: Leda, Lee, Alistair, Ozocubu, Borgnjor, Olgreb, Gell, Tukima, Yara. Artifact smiths: Ukta ({hat of the bear spirit}), Black Knight, Maxwell, Octopus King, The Captain, The Alchemist, Zhor. 01:21:45 (mournfully, like a wraith) 01:21:45 wizards without wizlabs[1/1]: Spell namesakes: Leda, Lee, Alistair, Ozocubu, Borgnjor, Olgreb, Gell, Tukima, Yara. Artifact smiths: Ukta ({hat of the bear spirit}), Black Knight, Maxwell, Octopus King, The Captain, The Alchemist, Zhor. 01:21:49 ah, well early portal work is fun as well! 01:21:51 (french wraith?) 01:21:52 I apparently am responsible for removing the last remnant of Eringya's Garden 01:21:57 I've not done an ossuary or sewer or anything 01:22:02 I could have fun making a sewer 01:22:09 lot of monsters you can pull there 01:22:09 fun ossuary work: remove traps 01:22:12 god 01:22:13 *mechanical traps 01:22:25 that's the other thing chei was making fun of me for 01:22:31 %git HEAD^{/[Ee]ringya] 01:22:31 Could not find commit HEAD^{/[Ee]ringya] (git returned 128) 01:22:32 the item disappearing bug and mechanical traps 01:22:40 the item disappearing bug is so, so good. 01:22:44 but in zot:5 01:22:47 what is it? 01:22:49 %git 6dcb786 01:22:49 07Brannock02 * 0.19-a0-1743-g6dcb786: Fully remove an Eringya leftover 10(3 weeks ago, 2 files, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6dcb7864a8ea 01:24:04 gammafunk: the ring of fire is being swapped with the stack of ID scrolls that are being used to ID the ring 01:24:12 lol 01:24:17 it swaps *before* the ID scroll stack quantity is decremented 01:24:31 so the ID completes, and then the scroll-reading code happily decrements the ID scroll stack's old slot 01:24:37 dang 01:24:43 i honestly am not sure how to fix it 01:24:49 ring of fire became the used id scroll 01:24:55 sort of 01:25:00 sort of 01:26:15 is this because of the id stuff off the ground feature? 01:26:20 totally unrelated 01:26:34 wow 01:26:39 actually, iding stuff on or from the ground would avoid this feature 01:26:42 bug? w/e 01:27:35 oh, and even better is that this is due in part to chei's use of gammafunk.rc 01:27:42 since I have slot mappings for all jewel types 01:27:47 !learn set wizards_without_wizlabs Spell namesakes: Alistair, Borgnjor, Gell, Leda, Lee, Olgreb, Ozocubu, Tukima, Yara. Artefact smiths: The Alchemist, Black Knight, The Captain, Maxwell, Octopus King, Ukta ({hat of the bear spirit}), Zhor. 01:27:47 wizards without wizlabs[1/1]: Spell namesakes: Alistair, Borgnjor, Gell, Leda, Lee, Olgreb, Ozocubu, Tukima, Yara. Artefact smiths: The Alchemist, Black Knight, The Captain, Maxwell, Octopus King, Ukta ({hat of the bear spirit}), Zhor. 01:27:51 so good, glad I removed chei's items 01:28:01 did someone nerf chei?? 01:28:14 chei nerfed chei, needed to take it easier 01:28:14 !greatrace cheibrodos mu 01:28:18 Unwon mummys for cheibrodos: MuAE, MuAr, MuCK, MuEE, MuFE, MuFi, MuIE, MuSu, MuVM 01:28:22 not quite 01:28:48 PleasingFungus, Gell's Lesser Beckoning? 01:29:02 if it brings your heart joy 01:29:18 what about... maxwell's mirror 01:29:24 what was my alien wizard name that mpa hated 01:29:27 my vague thought was that 'lesser' replaced the need for a wizard name 01:29:41 Gell's Greater Beckoning is clearly Disjunction 01:29:43 when i was naming the spell; it was originally going to be 'so-and-so's beckoning', and then i decided that 'lesser' was funnier 01:30:31 ??hat of the bear spirit 01:30:31 hat of the bear spirit[1/2]: +2 hat with {Spirit +Rage rN+ MR++}. 01:30:34 ??hat of the bear spirit]2 01:30:34 hat of the bear spirit2 ~ hat of the bear spirit[1/2]: +2 hat with {Spirit +Rage rN+ MR++}. 01:30:37 ??hat of the bear spirit[2 01:30:37 hat of the bear spirit[2/2]: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/713ZNpTTy3L.jpg 01:30:45 that is a very good image 01:33:30 @??dancing weapon 01:33:31 dancing weapon (06() | Spd: 12-18 | HD: 15 | HP: 22-34 | AC/EV: 11/18 | Dam: 30 | 11non-living, fighter, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 882 | Sz: small | Int: brainless. 01:33:36 @??dancing long sword 01:33:36 unknown monster: "dancing long sword" 01:34:06 @??dancing weapon ; long sword 01:34:06 dancing weapon (11() | Spd: 16 | HD: 15 | HP: 28 | AC/EV: 9/18 | Dam: 18 | 11non-living, fighter, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 904 | Sz: small | Int: brainless. 01:34:12 thank you 01:37:14 yeah, not super intuitive 01:37:41 * geekosaur just remembers a description somewhere "a dancing weapon wielding the specified weapon" 01:37:49