00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:03:22 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 00:03:29 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:05:52 -!- timbabwe_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:05:59 geekosaur: awesome 00:06:24 wow, such C style python 00:07:21 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:21 You hear the crackle of arcane power. 00:07:21 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:07:21 You hear a distant wind. 00:07:21 decisions, decisions 00:07:59 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 00:08:58 wow, it works 00:09:06 &watch gammafunk 00:09:07 unknowngammafunk 00:09:18 !lm gammafunk x=src 00:09:19 21376. [2016-09-02 04:06:23] [src=cjr] gammafunk the Impaler (L20 NaWn of Uskayaw) entered the Vaults on turn 49395. (D:14) 00:09:21 ??cjr 00:09:21 cjr[1/2]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks). SSH login info: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html. 00:09:38 THAT SONG 00:10:02 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 00:13:52 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:14:32 -!- Nomi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:17:00 -!- Urienaiph is now known as Brokraiph 00:23:08 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:26:17 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:47 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:12 -!- nezrel has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:30:12 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1365-gb34f4cb (34) 00:33:29 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:33:43 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:35:27 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:37:38 nicolae- 00:37:42 oh no he left 00:37:52 I missed a chance to shill shirts to someone who hadn't heard of them yet :( 00:40:04 -!- bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:42:25 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:43:47 if you have discord you should consider shilling shirts to demise 00:47:57 -!- Twinge has quit [] 00:50:40 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:50 -!- asdssdf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:53:15 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:53:35 isn't discord like 00:53:37 the alternate skype or whatever 00:53:40 what's demise 00:55:26 australian crawl player 00:55:39 he has the speedrun record iirc at 48 minutes or something? 00:55:43 also very salty 00:55:56 discord has a hearthstone server with chat and shit, so presumably they do something similar with crawl 00:55:59 ? 00:55:59 then he should love the desolation of salt 00:56:03 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktSSD4aN9HM 00:56:04 hohoho 00:56:11 watch his ascent of this vpne 00:56:13 it's 00:56:15 amazing 00:56:26 when I say ascent I specifically mean when he has the orb 00:56:43 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS2Kq-uRv3U 00:56:50 dat mennas 00:56:55 this video is also excellent 00:57:57 what 00:57:57 this isn't an ascent 00:57:57 he dies 00:57:57 yeah, that's why it's good 00:57:57 man 00:57:57 he just tries to walk away from an oof 00:58:04 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:58:25 actually watching him clear zot:5 is also pretty good 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:34 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:01:53 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:04:09 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 01:04:11 ok so trying to zerk down desolation early doesn't work 01:04:21 because you just end up dragging the entire level to you and then die 01:05:55 starting to think it's not worth trying unless you get the portal very late and have a truly absurd character right now 01:07:21 on paper Elf:$ is probably nastier in terms of enemies, but the effective lack of walls and the fact that you can't stairdance it or the like mean it's much nastier 01:07:38 were you playing in sentinel salt or convoker salt? 01:07:40 !lm lightli br=desolation 01:07:41 5. [2016-09-02 05:02:43] Lightli the Severer (L15 HOWn of Trog) entered the Desolation of Salt on turn 27560. (Elf:1) 01:07:48 XL15 is very low for Salt 01:07:51 yeah 01:08:05 I did XL19 on my recent HOMo win and won comfortably 01:08:09 in salt, I mean 01:08:15 with the rest of the portal vaults unless it's like tomb wizlab I can bruteforce it at that level 01:09:12 the fact that making noise is a very bad idea means berserk doesn't really help 01:09:12 ironically vault sentinels wouldn't have been an issue, with hand up I had +++++ MR 01:09:12 I almost exclusively pick up axes in my games, though, so the cleaving helps quite a bit against saltlings 01:09:16 I was swinging around a +4 battleaxe 01:09:24 with a battleaxe it takes 3-4 swings to clear out a saltling pack 01:09:28 it's just 26/20 defenses are not good enough in desolation 01:09:37 !lm . br=salt 01:09:38 No milestones for Brannock (br=salt). 01:09:42 !lm . br=desolation 01:09:44 2. [2016-09-01 22:10:30] brannock the Severer (L19 HOMo of Hepliaklqana) entered the Desolation of Salt on turn 37683. (Vaults:1) 01:09:46 and guardian serpents are incredibly bullshit in the desolation 01:09:47 well saltlings were nerfed recently 01:09:49 !tv . br=desolation 01:09:49 No games for Brannock (br=desolation). 01:09:52 argh 01:10:06 CanOfWorms, mostly relevant for casters though 01:10:20 CanOfWorms, did you see my message about Salt portal tile vs Salt terrain tiles? 01:10:26 yeah 01:10:37 since you're here, can you take a screenshot of how it looks 01:10:46 sure, lemme generate it in wizmode h/o 01:11:32 congrats, there is now something I want to change about a portal vault more than those horrible freezing clouds in ice caves 01:11:59 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:17 guardian serpents are miserable just about anywhere 01:12:31 guardian serpents for zot:5! 01:12:51 my favorite guardian serpent appearance is in that one lair:$ vault where they basically just do not belong 01:12:58 I have a hard time believing anybody finds that vault for the first time and doesn't die 01:13:11 you can say that for a lot of vaults tbh 01:13:36 -!- hieropants has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:13:37 did you watch that fene video btw 01:13:44 no, should I 01:13:53 yes 01:13:55 it is 01:13:56 peak dcss 01:13:58 koboldina: No, the thing is the ways you can make them more tolerable generally do not exist in the desolation 01:14:49 http://i.imgur.com/iViqOXn.png CanOfWorms 01:14:49 since there are basically no walls 01:14:51 see what I mean about it looking so starkly different? 01:15:14 also, desolation floor tiles look very 'regular' thanks to the two salt balls lining up precisely. not sure there's a way to fix that with only two non-ridge tiles though 01:15:42 I'm sure PleasingFungus would be happy to add more floor tiles though, if that's what it took to help noiseify the floor tiles 01:16:26 yes 01:16:30 I need to make more salt tiles 01:16:35 I just gave pf the bare minimum 01:17:06 that aside I think your color choices are excellent 01:17:24 And I like what you can see inside the portal arch. it's very "mysterious-thing-over-that-hill" creepy-ish almost 01:18:01 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:18:09 yeah it's very ozymandiasish 01:18:23 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:20:26 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1365-gb34f4cb (34) 01:20:26 sadly moon base won over doing the salt portal 01:20:26 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 01:20:26 if it hadn't been a top tier wizlab I'd have left for desolation, though 01:21:17 gammafunk's wizlab ranks: S: moon base C: everything else F: dorokhle's tomb 01:21:30 dorkhole is fun! 01:21:35 that's A tier 01:21:38 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:21:46 it's fun, but dumb 01:21:52 I don't think it's dumb 01:21:54 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:22:17 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:22:28 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 01:22:42 all wizlabs are spoilery, which is unfortunate perhaps, but they're fun when they throw you out of your comfort zone 01:23:09 I think spoilery is acceptable if A. the player has tools to deal with it B. the player doesn't get ambushed without warning 01:23:13 I feel like most of the rest are significantly less spoilery 01:23:18 wizlab show up late enough that A. fits 01:23:24 B. is true for most of them 01:23:32 well dorkhole gives you warnings 01:23:46 eg moon base is pretty good. at any time you can reun backwards, and in the final room a teleport will almost certainly take you to safety 01:23:49 doroklohe is a big surprise but if you slow down and puzzle it out it's there 01:24:14 many crawl players don't slow down though! 01:24:15 take it easy, 01:24:16 yeah, going into dorkhole the first time, you know you're in a dangerous portal and are taking it slow 01:24:16 dorkhole has some obtuse lua messages, and suddenly walls vanish! 01:24:25 also just noticed the actual portal image lol 01:24:25 well that's not right either 01:24:33 they don't all vanish, some do 01:24:39 yeah I guess I need to not use the black border 01:25:08 in short I think it's an acceptable design that could be improved a bit, but giant killchamber that's well constrained with a fallback area and some los-breaking tombs 01:25:18 it's reasonable enough 01:26:12 it does have a similar problem to the initial version of desolation with the entry area but at least dorkhole is not like 80x80 01:26:16 !tell PleasingFungus https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/343 oops 01:26:17 Brannock: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 01:27:02 man I really want to make transition salt tiles and have pf implement them for the entrance 01:27:04 it would be cool to see a more elaborate design that did the monster drip thing perhaps a bit more subtlely 01:27:08 it would look extremely sick 01:27:12 S I C C 01:27:27 transition tiles? 01:27:43 rock to glass sorta thing? interesting idea 01:27:49 CanOfWorms, I was thinking part of the problem was different color palette for arch and ground tiles, but upon reflection you probably don't want them to be similar, else they'd blend in? 01:27:51 let me mock it up 01:28:10 oh, like shifting from clear to solid 01:28:13 looking at the lua, I think every tomb opens at once 01:28:22 every tomb opens at once eventually 01:28:25 you just get three warning messages first 01:28:28 isn't it sequential outside-to-in? 01:28:31 but until that event some open over time 01:31:31 New branch created: pull/343 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/343 01:31:31 03Brannock02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/343 * 0.19-a0-1366-g9bd07a1: Fix Desolation portal description 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9bd07a15c96d 01:31:42 http://puu.sh/qX5rb/ec7a3eb52e.png 01:31:42 something vaguely like this 01:31:42 ah so each box has its own timer of 50-100 turns, and once any box hits its timer three times all the other walls come down too? 01:31:43 complex des 01:31:44 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:25 I like the transition tiles 01:32:40 could be a bit noisier on the bottom right corner 01:32:44 not sure how much that matters 01:32:51 basically to do it properly pf would have to implement them like blood or fountain features, I think 01:32:59 or water, maybe? 01:33:00 can it be overlaid on top of the.. yeah, you'd have to feature it on top 01:34:23 03Brannock02 07* 0.19-a0-1366-g9bd07a1: Fix Desolation portal description 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9bd07a15c96d 01:34:23 03PleasingFungus02 {GitHub} 07* 0.19-a0-1367-g87b5bc6: Merge pull request #343 from isloat/gateway-fix 10(16 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87b5bc6488e4 01:34:49 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:34:49 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:35:24 hey pf, are you up to doing that salt overlay thing I mocked up earlier 01:35:40 this would just be for entry vaults? 01:35:40 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 01:35:45 yeah 01:35:51 doubt it 01:35:53 sorry 01:35:57 no problem :v 01:36:08 tbh i'm not sure how i'd go about it at all 01:36:15 tiles code is still largely a mystery to me 01:36:20 I imagine stealing the code that handles water 01:36:36 blood spatter 01:36:38 since it has to place the transitions for those 01:36:52 the hard part isn't the overlay, it's figuring out which transition tile to use 01:36:57 unless pf wants to manually do that :v 01:37:16 I guess you could just hardcode 8 transition features 01:37:26 for NW N NE E SE S SW W 01:37:30 depending on how the entrances are generated it could be more than 8 01:37:45 for example if you have a non-salt surrounded completely by salt 01:37:51 that's another variation 01:38:11 there's 16 in total (based on which of the 8 surrounding tiles are salt or nonsalt) 01:38:16 er, not 16 01:38:19 64 01:38:27 well, I was thinking the simple case 01:38:29 no wait 16 is enough 01:38:35 you just care about the 4 orthogonal tiles 01:38:43 is this some sort of thing that could use bh's fabled domino code? 01:38:47 no 01:38:47 but 16 seems doable. It's probably like double the current number of features though :V 01:38:50 rip 01:38:57 it's whatever the water code uses to do the transitions between water/non water 01:39:01 e.g. shoals 01:40:58 !source tileview.cc:1334 01:40:59 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/tileview.cc#L1334 01:41:01 might be relevant 01:44:50 -!- asdsadsf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:46:38 -!- asdf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:48:56 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 01:50:05 ok I found the code that figures out the transitions 01:50:16 !source tileview.cc:575 01:50:16 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/tileview.cc#L575 01:50:43 // Not much to do here... 01:51:03 we already have a few haloes 01:51:42 used in bazaars, iirc 01:52:01 also, what's the deal with 01:52:06 !source tileview.cc:320 01:52:07 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/tileview.cc#L320 01:52:34 oh wow this is 01:52:41 // torches are more common on D:14... 01:52:52 spooky! 01:52:54 // ...and on Depths:$ 01:53:17 nice 01:53:22 !source tileview.cc:435 01:53:22 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/tileview.cc#L435 01:53:27 "this should never happen" 01:53:30 yep 01:54:09 that's crazy 01:54:23 why would you scale tiles variations by depth. Has anyone noticed this ever? 01:54:37 pf needs to include that bit of trivia in the next trunk update 01:55:04 !source tileview.cc:1209 01:55:05 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/tileview.cc#L1209 01:55:08 good out of context code 01:55:27 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1367-g87b5bc6 01:56:36 chequers: i honestly appreciate it 01:57:19 the idea of the dungeon getting darker and spookier as you go deeper... that's legit 01:57:19 but... it's the exact opposite... 01:57:19 more torches, not less 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:32 no but the tiles used also change 02:00:36 not just the torch thing 02:00:39 hence that comment that confused you 02:00:43 showing which tiles are used on which floors 02:01:04 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 02:01:30 ah 02:01:54 PleasingFungus, it literally does get darker and spookier too. Depths walls have a significant shadow to them 02:02:04 not sure who's responsible for that but I love it 02:02:05 i knew about that bit 02:02:19 it goes away for Zot though :( 02:02:56 also I just realized that comment is outdated 02:02:56 zot is oddly bright and cheery for the Deepest Level 02:02:56 if (depth == brdepth[BRANCH_DUNGEON]) // torches are more common on D:14... 02:03:53 zot is a silly place 02:03:59 bring back subtractor snakes, imo 02:04:33 they'll subtract... your life 02:05:42 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:07:05 hrm 02:07:16 @??goblin hd:30 spells:dispel_undead.200.priest 02:07:16 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 30 | HP: 97-142 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil | Vul: 08holy | XP: 4462 | Sp: dispel undead (3d40) [11!AM] | Sz: small | Int: human. 02:07:23 @??goblin hd:10 spells:dispel_undead.200.priest 02:07:24 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 32-48 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil | Vul: 08holy | XP: 568 | Sp: dispel undead (3d18) [11!AM] | Sz: small | Int: human. 02:07:36 what are you checking? 02:07:57 HD effect on spell damage? 02:08:33 it's dice_def(3, min(6 + power / 10, 40)) 02:08:33 trying to figure out when that min comes into play 02:08:33 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:08:33 power = 12 * hd, but should be capped at 200, which would be 3d26 02:08:33 right? 02:09:02 minimum of 6 + 20/10 or 40 02:09:03 so yes 02:09:11 oh, it's not capped 02:09:15 *200 02:09:24 that's cool 02:09:43 @??goblin hd:72 spells:dispel_undead.200.priest 02:09:43 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 72 | HP: 219-345 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil | Vul: 08holy | XP: 52170 | Sp: dispel undead (3d40) [11!AM] | Sz: small | Int: human. 02:09:49 yowza 02:09:53 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1367-g87b5bc6 (34) 02:10:03 the deadliest goblin... 02:10:07 ijyb... 02:10:29 @??goblin hd:72 spells:fireball.1.wizard 02:10:29 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 72 | HP: 219-345 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | XP: 56144 | Sp: fireball (3d93) | Sz: small | Int: human. 02:10:33 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:34 @??goblin hd:30 spells:fireball.1.wizard 02:10:34 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 30 | HP: 97-142 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | XP: 4766 | Sp: fireball (3d43) | Sz: small | Int: human. 02:10:36 huh 02:10:56 this is the mummy murder hour 02:11:31 rest in 'za 02:14:10 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:15:13 the oven of flaming heat 02:15:41 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:22 wow, we have three different effects called "primal wave" 02:16:23 that's great 02:16:34 tribal, primal, primitive wave 02:16:38 barbarian wave 02:16:43 are these genres 02:16:46 uncivilized wave 02:18:27 http://previews.123rf.com/images/cthoman/cthoman1506/cthoman150600419/41655032-A-happy-cartoon-caveman-waving-and-smiling--Stock-Vector.jpg 02:18:32 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:19:46 aww 02:19:46 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:22:23 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:23:12 !lg * kaux~~"elemental w" 02:23:13 I wonder what the most trivial bug ever found was. Not counting textual typos and stuff along these lings 02:23:14 lines 02:23:22 3. TZer0 the Fetichist (L23 DgCj), shot themself with a flood of elemental water on Abyss:4 on 2014-08-24 22:57:36, with 529552 points after 87316 turns and 7:40:52. 02:23:25 pro 02:23:54 high evocations skill, too! 02:24:31 inspiring 02:25:22 !tv tzer0 dgcj br=abyss 02:25:22 1. TZer0, XL23 DgCj, T:87316 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 02:25:39 -!- asdfdsf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:26:08 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:26:26 i missed it. was it exciting 02:26:42 he got blasted by starcursed mass then (apparently?) suicided 02:27:07 i figured 02:27:22 !lg * killer~~starcursed_mass 02:27:23 6034. glosham the Ducker (L1 SpAK of Lugonu), blasted by a starcursed mass (accursed screaming) on Abyss:3 on 2016-09-01 20:28:35, with 0 points after 288 turns and 0:04:42. 02:27:33 !lg * killer~~starcursed_mass xl>3 02:27:34 3285. glosham the Covert (L6 SpAK of Lugonu), blasted by a starcursed mass (accursed screaming) on Abyss:2 on 2016-09-01 20:05:21, with 478 points after 326 turns and 0:08:31. 02:27:45 2800 AK deaths to scm.. 02:28:01 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:28:06 !lg * killer~~starcursed_mass xl>7 02:28:07 3027. kmckee24 the Fighter (L9 MiFi of The Shining One), blasted by a starcursed mass (accursed screaming) on Abyss:1 on 2016-09-01 11:38:38, with 2354 points after 5226 turns and 0:15:34. 02:30:59 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:33:25 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:33:38 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 48.0.1/20160817112116]] 02:35:54 plefair enough 02:35:56 derp 02:36:35 -!- Hapless has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:39:14 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 02:42:31 did foxfire get changed so it's not crap anymore 02:43:10 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:57 foxfire has been decent for a while i thought? 02:48:10 koboldina: i think yes, as part of the invo nem change? 02:49:39 -!- asdfsdf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:49:42 I summoned a bunch of wasps and half of them didn't kill me, it was a pleasant surprise 02:51:20 rip giant fireflies 02:54:09 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1367-g87b5bc6 02:59:51 -!- asdfdsfsd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:04:11 03amalloy02 07* 0.19-a0-1368-g41a3d51: Invert awkward negative boolean condition 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/41a3d51acf7f 03:11:36 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 03:14:08 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:14:51 -!- asdfgfddf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:24:52 -!- scorchgeek has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:25:00 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1368-g41a3d51 (34) 03:28:04 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:31:27 -!- eb has quit [] 03:40:03 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:44:28 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:06:18 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 04:07:03 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:07:34 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:09:08 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1368-g41a3d51 (34) 04:10:01 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:10:50 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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(www.adiirc.com)] 12:11:19 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:11:25 %git cc390b852004c86346b21af8bb9989e556c7ef73 12:11:25 07regret-index02 * 0.19-a0-719-gcc390b8: Thorough Temple edits/clean-up, some new maps, altar average 12.15 -> 14.41 10(2 months ago, 1 file, 2468+ 3005-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc390b852004 12:11:40 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:12:37 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:22:02 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:27:25 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:28:41 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:37:43 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:34 how/where is placement of unique monsters controlled? 12:39:02 it's not in mon-pick-data.h which was my first assumption to check in 12:39:19 dat/des/builder/uniques.des 12:39:35 oh cool I didn't know about this 12:39:53 it's secret tech 12:40:03 they used to be able to appear in the middle of vaults and replace doors, things like that 12:40:06 i forget if they still can 12:42:12 ah I see how this works now I think. unique monsters are actually treated as special one-tile vaults that also places a monster (the unique, clearly) there 12:42:17 created at level generation 12:42:26 ya 12:43:19 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 12:47:37 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:51:49 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:38 -!- carlobar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:54:51 likely nobody knows; at least one, probably several bugs, were exposed by Forest and became hidden again when trees stopped being semitranslucent (that is, block LoS like rock instead of needing 2 of them to do so) 12:56:12 (although at least one of those bugs was *caused* by semitranslucence, so that one at least was fixed) 12:59:12 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:59:15 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:09 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:46 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:09:05 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1368-g41a3d51 (34) 13:14:29 -!- nxtlvl has quit [Client Quit] 13:15:00 -!- AndChat-596400 has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:17:01 -!- Elynae has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:22:39 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:29:53 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:31:05 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:31 -!- LaularuKyrumo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:35:38 -!- Kranix has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:59 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:38:04 -!- Kranix has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:44:15 -!- sneakyness has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 13:47:15 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:48:45 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:50:45 decks.cc is an endless source of opportunities to clean up code 13:52:41 s/decks.cc/crawlcode 13:54:17 what determines how deep a portal is placed? especially for wizlabs, is there anything that controls which wizlabs get spawned at which depths, or are all of them fair game? 13:54:26 where the entry vaults place 13:54:50 !source dat/des/portals/wizlab.des:360 13:54:51 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/wizlab.des#L360 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:04:39 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:06:21 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:10:53 -!- carlobar has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:14:07 there's a fragment i can rewrite to either of: if (god != NEMELEX_XOBEH && divine_retribution(god)) {...}, or (if (god != NEMELEX_XOBEH) {if (divine_retribution(god)) {...}}. i'd happily choose the former except that divine_retribution is mostly for side effects, not mostly for its boolean value. does anyone care either way? 14:15:15 former is |amethyst-style 14:15:36 i could go either way myself 14:15:39 I don't understand the distinction 14:17:49 there's no difference in logic, it's just style 14:17:52 which distinction? between values and side effects? 14:18:07 right, both versions are mechanically the same 14:18:52 Oh, that's why I didn't understand 14:24:28 some functions in decks.cc have weird code in place to handle the possibility of card power level exceeding 2, and others just handle the actually-possible cases (0,1,2). any reason i shouldn't remove the cases to handle impossible power levels? 14:24:33 along with, say, adding an assert in _get_power_level that the result is in [0..2] 14:28:19 follow yr heart 14:32:55 -!- toastedzergling has quit [Client Quit] 14:40:02 -!- smee has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:46:02 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:15 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:48:49 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:50:06 mangosteen... 14:50:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1369-g6082783: Simplify is_player_same_genus() 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/60827837e15e 14:50:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1370-gf9d70b7: Use a better spell skill constant 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f9d70b7c6753 14:50:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1371-g8dc3556: Deduplicate some hex boilerplate 10(22 minutes ago, 1 file, 34+ 155-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8dc3556e5eed 14:50:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1372-gb7d0e92: Re-prioritize player spellcasting logic 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 15+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b7d0e92fe45b 14:50:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1373-g933b6c9: Move various monster spells into zaps 10(13 hours ago, 4 files, 61+ 56-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/933b6c96a206 14:50:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1374-g5371f7f: Move beam-targeted mons hexes into data 10(2 hours ago, 4 files, 168+ 140-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5371f7f663d3 14:51:09 i think that's someone else's heart. 14:51:35 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:53 you may be wondering, "why would it matter if a player ghoul was the same genus as a necrophage or rotting hulk (RIP)? 14:54:57 you probably aren't 14:55:02 but the answer is, as far as I can tell 14:55:07 hm. spl-util.h contains: typedef function monster_func;, which i'd like to make more globally visible, since it doesn't seem spell-related at all and i want it in decks.cc. what file does this actually belong in, though? 14:55:12 (a) different dialogue if you enslave them 14:55:28 (b) if you follow zin, he'll punish you for eating them 14:55:55 amalloy: that's a weird return type. int? 14:56:05 dangerously generic 14:56:46 PleasingFungus: i agree 14:56:46 i think it gets used as a boolean? 14:56:53 if so i would change it to an actual bool 14:56:55 it's currently only used in apply_monsters_around_square(), which also seems not especially specific to spells 14:57:08 i *think* it's part of our creaky old pre-c++11 code 14:57:20 -!- SolDaresha has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:57:33 oh, no, apparently it's not 14:57:42 well, i mean, it's not depending on anything else 14:57:43 -!- Grammus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:57:44 yes, in every case the only return values are 0 and 1 14:57:58 oh, but i see 14:58:00 yeah 14:58:07 it was intended to allow you to accumulate, but that was never used 14:58:08 it's not being used as a bool; it lets you count up the sum of something across all monsters 14:58:29 but that's not ever used 14:58:30 it is used, kinda, in cast_dispersal 14:58:38 but it could as well be a bool 14:58:39 not really 14:58:40 yeah 14:59:00 -!- grammu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:00:01 i'd be inclined to make it a template for any monoid type, but that is a pointless complication and we might as well specialize it to bool 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:15 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 15:01:24 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:39 -!- _FR3D has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:04:47 imo it should be as made as specific as possible, yeah 15:05:06 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 48.0.1/20160817112116]] 15:09:33 -!- Grammus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:14:42 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:10 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:29:38 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 15:29:40 The build was broken. (master - 5371f7f #6524 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/157176487 15:29:40 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 15:34:05 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:35:20 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:35:59 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:59 geekosaur: did you ever happen to get the copy of ycrawl? 15:36:09 sorry, was if fcrawl 15:36:12 *was it 15:36:14 ??fcrawl 15:36:14 fcrawl[1/3]: https://bpaste.net/raw/e2ddcb955f92 15:36:18 yeah, fcrawl 15:36:38 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:41 um, you even acked it 15:38:15 oh sorry, that was chequers' reply. I really was out of it 15:38:21 but then you did not receive a !tell 15:39:05 -!- muravey has quit [Client Quit] 15:39:08 [02 03:50] !tell gammafunk I'm sick as a dog today, but https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/fcrawl.py from 2013 15:44:18 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:44:42 oh, sorry! thanks, and hope you're feeling better 15:45:10 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:45:19 def g_orbchamber(self): 15:45:20 # thanks HangedMan 15:46:19 fr: any new branches/portals/monsters/vaults that get merged first need a working fcrawl implementation 15:46:28 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:33 now I just need to find a good place to host this 15:47:52 maybe just on my github; it has no license, but I can put a note for the author that I'll take it down if they show up and have a permanent hosting site 15:48:10 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 15:49:02 nice, just saw a salt end with 3 phantom mirrors 15:49:03 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:49:06 in one vault 15:49:20 honestly I'm not sure to call this dcss or not; maybe just hedge my bets with "Dungeon Crawl" 15:52:48 wow, vintage fcrawl 15:52:48 it still has classes! 15:52:48 -!- smee_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:52:48 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 15:53:37 MarvinPA: dang, is there a more recent one? 15:53:43 MarvinPA: do you have a more recent copy? 15:53:45 yeah, although i don't think i have a copy 15:53:48 rats 15:53:55 welp, hopefully one will turn up 15:54:01 -!- CaptainFruitcake has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:04 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:54:08 MarvinPA: do you know if it was originally by rwbarton? 15:54:35 I want to say that I heard that, but it may just be the learndb entry that I'm referencing 15:54:38 -!- neofelis has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:33 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:55:40 -!- CaptainFruitcake is now known as CanOfWorms 15:55:47