00:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:04 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:01:32 -!- buki has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:04:59 -!- rossi__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:08:22 someone crashed on CPO and made gdb infinite loop :O 00:08:30 !crash deadpool 00:08:30 No milestones for deadpool (crash). 00:08:45 gdb? 00:09:16 oh, might have been dcss-ca related 00:09:33 Brannock: when crawl crashes it has a handler that launches hdb and generates this filehttps://crawl.project357.org/morgue/deadpool/crash-deadpool-20160826-212146.txt 00:09:43 %git 00:09:44 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1254-gb9c29c0: Add some salt floors to Desolation entries (r-i) 10(20 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b9c29c0abe15 00:09:48 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1254-gb9c29c0 (34) 00:10:31 hmm 00:10:33 quality loop 00:10:42 pf, how hard would it be to overlay two floor tiles 00:11:01 was that commit meant to go to master? 00:11:03 like if I have a floor tile that's transparent so part of the second is visible 00:11:35 hmm I guess portals and shops are basically that 00:11:48 desolation was merged last night iirc 00:11:57 into trunk only I thought 00:12:23 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 00:12:23 (well night my time) 00:12:24 -!- muravey has quit [Client Quit] 00:12:32 master is trunk. ("trunk" is a holdover from when crawl was in svn) 00:12:37 oic 00:14:27 -!- Brickman has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:15:08 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:15:08 for what reason did crawl switch from svn to git? 00:16:55 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:50 probably because git was overall better 00:19:45 sigh. no shorthand for the commit *after* something 00:21:28 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:23:17 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:23:24 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:03 -!- helsbecter1 is now known as helsbecter 00:28:16 wow 00:28:43 I just noticed that FOOD named his ancestor wheals 00:28:43 !locate FOOD 00:28:43 FOOD was last seen on CBRO (FOOD, L27 GrIE of Hepliaklqana). 00:28:47 <|amethyst> geekosaur: it's prone to do the wrong thing with nonlinear history, but that's the problem with "commit after something": next() { git rev-list "$1"..HEAD --reverse | head -n 1; } 00:28:49 actually my guess is that it was related to the move from sourceforge (which liked svn at the time) to gitorious 00:29:21 are ancestor names recorded in milestones anywhere? 00:29:41 <|amethyst> gammafunk: not in an easy-to-get-to way 00:29:56 <|amethyst> but the ancestor job milestone contains the name 00:30:07 it is 00:30:09 "7989 | Lair:1 | Remembered your ancestor Appia as a hexer" 00:30:11 which verb is that? 00:30:12 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1254-gb9c29c0 (34) 00:30:19 !lm * ancestor.job 00:30:19 No keyword 'ancestor.job' 00:30:20 <|amethyst> !lm * verb~~ancestor s=verb 00:30:22 4711 milestones for * (verb~~ancestor): 4060x ancestor.class, 600x ancestor.special, 51x ancestor.deathswap 00:30:27 <|amethyst> !lm * verb~~ancestor.class 00:30:27 4060. [2016-08-27 03:30:27] momplestiltskin the Frost Mage (L10 DrIE of Hepliaklqana) remembered their ancestor JamesTCoolguy as a knight on turn 9982. (D:8) 00:30:34 !lm * ancestor.class 00:30:34 4060. [2016-08-27 03:30:27] momplestiltskin the Frost Mage (L10 DrIE of Hepliaklqana) remembered their ancestor JamesTCoolguy as a knight on turn 9982. (D:8) 00:30:35 <|amethyst> I guess all the ancestor milestones contain it 00:30:41 !lm FOOD ancestor.class 00:30:42 1. [2016-08-13 00:58:13] FOOD the Twirler (L8 GrIE of Hepliaklqana) remembered their ancestor PleasingFungus as a hexer on turn 5113. (D:6) 00:30:45 !lm * ancestor.class milestone~~gamma s=milestone 00:30:47 haha 00:30:48 One milestone for * (ancestor.class milestone~~gamma): remembered their ancestor gammajunk as a hexer. 00:31:04 <|amethyst> I think there's a kw or something that parses it out? 00:31:10 <|amethyst> probably a command, not a kw 00:31:18 yeah a command, but a hacky command iirc 00:31:35 <|amethyst> !ancestorpopularity 00:31:35 4060 milestones for * (verb=ancestor.class): 1657x hexer (40.81%), 1445x knight (35.59%), 958x battlemage (23.60%) 00:31:45 <|amethyst> oh, that does the other part 00:31:55 !lm * name~~gamma s=name 00:31:56 21527 milestones for * (name~~gamma): 21341x gammafunk, 45x FUCKYOUGAMMAFUNK, 42x gammaFactor, 24x gammaflux, 21x hypernotgammafunk, 21x omegagamma314, 18x Gamma1987, 7x GammaGM, 4x gammadist, 2x Gammax, gammaskunk, uvgamma 00:32:17 nice 00:32:43 uvgamma, what a science nerd 00:33:22 <|amethyst> Sounds like you need some 00:33:24 <|amethyst> !glasses 00:33:25 ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) 00:33:27 <|amethyst> gamma correction 00:35:09 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:35:50 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:51 The build failed. (master - f169493 #6436 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/155518248 00:35:52 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 00:40:40 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:45:02 oh ho ho 00:45:02 i'm surprised battlemage is that comparatively unpopular 00:45:06 does it still have stigma from how bad it originally was? 00:45:34 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:45:40 PleasingFungus: is the desolation entrance guaranteed? 00:46:25 PleasingFungus: oh i see now, no 00:46:34 I tried! 00:47:27 so always in elf:1? 00:49:15 almost always 00:49:16 mostly 00:49:48 the set of elf:1s that doeesn't have an entrance has measure 0, basically 00:49:56 well, no 00:50:01 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:50:52 time to go to elf i guess 00:51:11 ProzacElf, I think part of it is battlemage tends to be suicidal. the three ancestors have similar winrates though 00:52:09 -!- eb_ has quit [] 00:55:57 heh 00:55:57 but *now* it's suicidal and does decent melee damage 00:56:11 before, it was suicidal and did garbage damage whenever it wasn't casting 00:58:50 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:59:02 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:24 made it in... at XL13 01:01:34 -!- adibis has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 01:04:33 !lg x=place 01:04:34 1803. [place=Desolation] chequers the Grappler (L13 TrTm of Ru), demolished by a saltling in Desolation (desolation_of_salt) on 2016-08-27 05:03:20, with 33188 points after 15491 turns and 0:50:26. 01:04:44 Desolation as shortname not Salt? 01:04:53 hmm, actually don't change it, that will just make more work for the scoreboard :P 01:04:57 i didn't even think of salt 01:05:16 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:05:40 you didn't? 01:05:47 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:05:50 are you keeping it a single level portal while it's in testing, but the goal is to be a multilevel elf replacement, right 01:05:52 I immediately thought of that given the documentation suggesting it was intended to become an alternate branch 01:06:01 s/s s/s s, e.g., 01:06:22 I suppose as a swap for elf though, you don't need the 's' prefix 01:06:51 desolation is more descriptive in that case 01:07:57 desaltation... 01:10:06 -!- Guest70780 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:10:42 don't give the fungus ideas... 01:12:17 -!- eki has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:12:47 we have a salt branch now, where's the hash and sugar branches 01:15:40 -!- mattitk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:20:02 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1254-gb9c29c0 (34) 01:22:38 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:22:39 The build passed. 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(master - 66f0180 #6438 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/155520369 01:59:10 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:13 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 02:04:21 -!- rossi__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:04:31 pleasingfungus: another desolater on akrasiac 02:04:47 if you have beastly appendage active and you get a racial mutation that overrides it, the form stays active 02:07:59 looks like i missed most of it 02:08:02 any excitement? 02:08:15 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:08:30 nearly died to a crystal golem (~20 HP) 02:08:33 nice 02:08:37 that's good 02:08:38 *guardian 02:08:47 heh, temple with sand floor 02:08:49 funny 02:09:01 also isn't burning books and I think they dropped two scrolls of summoning in the portal?! 02:09:19 nice 02:09:46 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:20:20 is salt going to remain a portal vault, or is it planned to be a full-sized branch eventually? 02:22:03 the original intent was a full branch (elf alternate) but we'll see how it goes 02:24:33 ah 02:24:50 i feel like the game could use some alternates for lair and/or orc tbh 02:25:06 like 99%+ of wins see both orc and lair 02:25:46 you can't have an alternate for orc really 02:25:54 I agree with PE. variation will help player interest as well 02:25:58 PleasingFungus, why not? 02:26:02 beogh 02:26:06 oh, right 02:26:07 hmm 02:26:58 lair you could in principle have an alternate for, but that's one of our bigger branches still; it'd be a lot of work 02:27:14 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:27:30 lair has, what, more than two dozen monsters and a load of vaults? 02:27:39 and all these monsters interact in unique ways 02:27:47 not sure that last thing is totally true 02:27:47 and the layout itself is rather unique as well 02:27:49 but the rest ya 02:27:59 tbf desolation's layout is closer to lair's than most branches 02:28:26 very open 02:28:26 well you have torpor snails, basilisks, catoblepae, rime drakes, and now dream sheeps.. 02:28:37 wolves, spiny frogs, ugh what's the name of the black purple snake 02:28:41 moccasin++ 02:28:58 black mamba 02:29:00 thank you 02:29:05 im here 4 u 02:29:07 ! 02:29:10 blink froggers 02:29:17 yaks, death yaks, giant frogs 02:29:22 elephants 02:29:26 but all of these affect heavily how the player decides what to do, what abilities to use, what consumables to burn 02:29:33 maybe not yaks/giant frogs 02:29:37 :) 02:29:41 green rats 02:29:43 i mean river rats 02:30:03 I actually think monsters like river rats could stand to have band size doubled or something 02:30:23 it'd make them an interesting problem for single-target casters and non-axe fighters 02:30:30 hard to weave your way through a carpet of rats 02:30:45 could make ?fear more attractive 02:30:54 that sounds like an exceptionally bad idea 02:31:28 at a certain point, more of a popcorn monster just wastes more time rather than being more of a threat 02:31:32 perhaps because there are so few monster-band options in the game 02:31:44 you know 02:31:59 well I was envisioning a situation where a swarm of river rats blocks off your retreat while you're dealing with, e.g., torpor snail and some death yaks 02:32:19 turning river rat swarms into a linked HP pool single monster, wherein each member of the swarm has something like blink 02:32:29 ?fear, ?teleport, lamp of fire, fan of gales, ?blink... 02:32:29 might plausibly be interesting 02:32:35 rat king??? 02:32:39 yes 02:34:11 but that feels like it has a lot of overlap with blink frogs, though, so maybe not 02:34:11 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:35:49 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 48.0.1/20160817112116]] 02:37:44 a rat king unique could be interesting 02:38:19 quasi-tentacled starspawn. kill multiple rats to kill the tail 02:38:32 probably not all that mechanically meaningful 02:39:19 tentacled ratspawn 02:54:15 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1254-gb9c29c0 02:54:24 like the one out of the pratchett book 02:54:41 which was of course taken from some sort of legend or myth 02:56:18 hmm! alternating salt and orc ! 02:58:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:04:28 no 03:05:01 orc mines..... salt mines....... 03:06:51 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:07:36 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:09:37 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:09:52 -!- kogasa has joined ##crawl-dev 03:09:52 -!- n1k has joined ##crawl-dev 03:10:51 -!- zxc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:14:15 so, you're sending pf to the salt mines? 03:14:20 -!- rax has joined ##crawl-dev 03:14:40 -!- ZanniqlcKzxkq has joined ##crawl-dev 03:14:52 -!- helsbecter1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:16:52 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:16:53 -!- helsbecter has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:16:53 -!- rax_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:16:54 -!- Goncyn_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:16:54 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:16:54 -!- isha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:16:54 -!- zxc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:16:54 -!- johlstei__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:16:54 -!- Doesnty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:16:54 -!- n1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:16:55 -!- Zannick has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:16:55 -!- escu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:16:55 -!- us17_ is now known as us17 03:17:33 -!- miek_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:17:53 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:18:36 -!- miek_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:22:10 -!- isha_ is now known as isha 03:22:14 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 03:22:15 The build passed. (master - b9c29c0 #6440 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/155521456 03:22:15 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 03:23:59 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:25:01 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 03:26:15 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1254-gb9c29c0 (34) 03:27:00 so I haven't been able to log into webtiles lately 03:27:22 and when I first refresh literally no one is playing 03:27:36 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:28:36 this is on chrome by the way, on firefox it works completely fine 03:29:31 which server 03:29:34 CBRO 03:29:44 do you have a proxy configured 03:29:49 ??cbro 03:29:49 cbro[1/4]: Server in Georgia, US: crawl.beRotato.org -- ssh port 22, username crawler, keys at http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/keys (no password access). In case of DNS problems, use crawl.boylecraft.net. Webtiles at: http://crawl.beRotato.org. Use glyph/sigil ^ for bots 03:30:17 chequers: No, I don't 03:30:27 tried CAO webtiles, that doesn't even make it to the lobby 03:31:48 ??servers 03:31:48 servers[1/3]: USA: {cao}, {cbro}; CAN: {cjr}; EU: {cdo}, {cue}, {cxc}; KR: {cwz}; JP: {lld}; AU: {cpo} 03:31:51 ??cxc 03:31:51 cXc[1/2]: Server in France: CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM -- ssh port 22, username crawl, uses CAO key (available at http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/keys/). Webtiles address: http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM 03:32:04 or CXC 03:32:09 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:32:13 ...or cbro anymore 03:32:18 I can't log into webtiles anywhere 03:34:01 CBRO is the only server that I can even make it to the lobby 03:34:03 and logging in doesn't work 03:34:50 odd. chrome here, just went to cao's lobby and logged in 03:34:59 ??cao 03:34:59 cao[1/2]: Crawl server, located in Phoenix, AZ. USA, http://crawl.akrasiac.org/ or crawl.akrasiac.org ssh port 22 ssh-username:joshua ssh-password: joshua. Runs the latest stable release, trunk, and robotfindskitten. Further information on the website and ??putty entries for Windows users. Also see http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto 03:35:13 it's been getting worse for a while 03:35:25 note that the lobby is on port 8080 03:35:26 yesterday it started disconnecting me completely from the server at random 03:35:59 webtiles still works completely fine on firefox 03:36:34 sounds like your chrome is having problems with websockets 03:36:42 what about cpo? 03:36:56 ??cjr 03:36:56 cjr[1/2]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks). SSH login info: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html. 03:37:00 and cjr 03:37:38 gammafunk: it seems so 03:37:40 how do I fix that 03:37:53 chequers: No good on either of those either 03:38:24 no idea, not sure what could have changed; it doesn't sound like you've disabled websoket support 03:38:28 although that's possible 03:39:17 very strange. it is probably not a network issue in this case 03:39:17 ahve you tried disabling all extensions? 03:39:18 (well I just got disconnected but that's not chrome's fault. local wifi, not under my control, cycles NAT ports faster than a pulsar rotates...) 03:39:20 Lightli: you might try looking at the js inspector and seeing if you get any errors 03:39:43 js inspector? 03:39:48 Tools->Developer Tools 03:40:04 on the lobby page 03:40:35 did so, how do I find errors 03:40:38 Errors are indicated with a little red circle with an x 03:40:55 at the top menu thingie in the interface that appears 03:41:17 if you click console you should see any 03:41:47 in which subsection 03:41:52 is it in network? 03:42:20 Console 03:42:29 if you don't see anything listed, no errors 03:42:40 no socket errors 03:42:48 no errors at all? 03:42:54 console is blank 03:42:58 ok, yeah 03:43:56 looking at the network tab apparently the time for the socket to load is "pending" 03:44:09 which seems like it literally never loaded 03:45:02 mine says this as well 03:45:05 but is working 03:45:43 so I don't know that it's any problem 03:45:58 it started acting up a day or so ago with random disconnects from the server 03:46:04 but now it just won't let me connect at all 03:46:22 anything change about your chrome installation? 03:46:28 I know chrome autoupdates 03:46:35 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:46:38 nothing but autoupdates 03:46:47 Also, have you restarted chrome recently? Has your chrome been running continuously since then? 03:47:05 It has a background widget, so unless you've closed that, it could be running for all that time 03:47:27 which isn't a problem, but if you want to properly restart it without a computer restart, you need to close that thingy 03:47:29 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:49:11 ...no I haven't restarted chrome recently 03:49:36 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 03:50:10 I would try a full shutdown and restart of chrome, yeah 03:50:49 k 03:50:51 be back in a few 03:52:20 -!- Lightli_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:52:44 ok that worked 03:52:47 webtiles now works again 03:55:39 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:56:34 -!- Lightli_ is now known as Lightli 03:59:32 let it be known that my solution was in fact *way* more technical and deep than "restart your browser" 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:17 I could explain further but I'd have to go into lambdas, category theory, and universal Turing machines 04:01:57 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:04:04 -!- rossi__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:04:24 translator's note: restart your browser 04:04:52 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 04:06:36 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:12:21 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:18:02 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:22:05 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:23:30 !lm * br.enter=elf won recent x=avg(xl) 04:23:42 9822 milestones for * (br.enter=elf won recent): avg(xl)=19.33 04:23:49 !lm * br.enter=elf won recent x=avg(urune) 04:23:51 9822 milestones for * (br.enter=elf won recent): avg(urune)=1.53 04:26:46 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:29:16 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:51:53 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:10:06 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:13:37 -!- vale_ has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 05:37:42 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:39:34 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:56:06 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:03:35 -!- rossi__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:15:13 !tell pleasingfungus http://i.imgur.com/9FK4nRD.png here's a starter block for salt mines 06:15:14 CanOfWorms: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 06:21:46 -!- escu_ is now known as escu 06:26:26 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:34:47 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:36:45 !tell pleasingfungus http://imgur.com/a/PcbSa some starter floor tiles too 06:36:45 CanOfWorms: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 06:38:21 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 06:39:25 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Changing host] 06:39:26 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:42:19 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:57:25 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04:19 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:05:51 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:13:27 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:38 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 07:28:37 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:36:24 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:40:20 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Changing host] 07:42:36 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:04:31 -!- rossi__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:11:02 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:18:16 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:20:02 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:12 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:42:27 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:10:49 -!- tcsc has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:17:23 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:18:35 -!- nezrel has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:22:04 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:23:08 -!- kogasa is now known as Doesnty 09:29:51 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:54:21 -!- tcsc has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:33 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:04:30 -!- rossi__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:14:58 -!- Brannock_ is now known as Brannock 10:20:03 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 10:21:30 !lm * br.enter=desolation 10:21:31 26. [2016-08-27 14:00:39] kuniqs the Tortoise (L15 MiFi of Trog) entered the Desolation of Salt on turn 20935. (Shoals:1) 10:21:41 !locate kuniqs 10:21:43 kuniqs was last seen on CUE (kuniqs, L15 MiFi of Trog). 10:24:17 !lg * ikiller~~dream_sheep 10:24:18 No games for * (ikiller~~dream_sheep). 10:33:14 -!- zxc_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39:18 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:33 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04:03 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:39 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:05:55 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 11:14:51 -!- sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:17:33 -!- Lantell has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:18:54 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:20:38 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 11:24:01 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:22 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:32:51 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:56 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:45:20 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:38 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:25 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:59:55 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03:23 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:03 -!- rossi__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:04:17 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:09:04 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:15:12 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:26:25 !tell PleasingFungus '5' seems to take extra long to process in Desolation 12:26:25 Brannock: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 12:46:08 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:53 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:04 Brannock: i'm not shocked 12:58:04 PleasingFungus: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 12:59:03 I had a rest that took 11 turns total, that took about two seconds to pop. could just be cbro acting up though 12:59:23 didn't get an opportunity to test it more thoroughly. I imagine it's not noticeable on a local build 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:49 -!- Implojin has left ##crawl-dev 13:11:16 -!- sysice has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:20:37 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1255-g3c3cda1: New salt floor/wall tiles (CanOfWorms) 10(32 seconds ago, 8 files, 4+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3c3cda166b55 13:22:49 Brannock: worrying! 13:23:30 after this character is done I'm trying out cjr and I'll see how desolation performs there 13:24:02 !tell canofworms I had to darken your floor tiles, since they were blinding, but salt clouds are a little low contrast against them now. peacekeepers are much better though http://i.imgur.com/vR1d5aM.png 13:24:03 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let canofworms know. 13:25:28 is there a way to weigh particular tiles 13:25:42 that one tile with the rift/ridge should be rarer than the other two I feel 13:26:25 though I guess it'd create a neat wave effect with multiple of them in diagonals 13:26:36 probably 13:26:41 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: do pillars of salt have any place in Desolation? 13:27:14 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1254-gb9c29c0 (34) 13:27:37 |amethyst: thematically, yes 13:27:40 <|amethyst> hm 13:27:46 oh, totally unrelated thought 13:28:05 <|amethyst> I wonder if you can actually place one that isn't a pillar of salt shaped pillar of salt 13:28:11 did you have a chance to glance at https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/328 again? the missing else for the mindelay thing was added 13:28:14 <|amethyst> which is what &mpillar of salt gives you 13:29:44 looks like: not at present, i think 13:29:50 zombies, dracs, and ds let you play with base type 13:34:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1256-g95fae04: Experiment: tweak salt floor weights 10(30 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/95fae04478ba 13:34:32 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:38:53 I hope that works because being able to weight floor tiles opens up some avenues for visual design 13:38:58 -!- Shard1697_ is now known as Shard1697 13:39:07 where is the new portal currently showing up? 13:39:12 elf 1 13:39:16 90% chance 13:39:23 "you hear a distant wind" 13:41:40 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:41:45 btw-I had a weird silence bug on tomb a bit ago? after the spell wore off, on the stairs I had cast it on I would still be silenced 13:41:47 it can also show up in lair branches 13:41:49 but nowhere else 13:42:01 Shard1697: good bug! report it, maybe 13:42:04 that soudns like a fascinating bug 13:42:08 lots of weird silence/halo bugs lingering around 13:42:15 and once i cast silence again it went away 13:42:18 will do 13:42:31 were you actually prevented from casting, or was it just the silence tile halo/status effect? 13:42:46 I was prevented from casting 13:42:47 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:53 and a red 'Sil' showed up 13:42:59 isn't it purple? 13:43:02 but, no actual halo on the tile 13:43:03 not a visual bug then 13:43:05 oh, huh 13:43:41 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:45:50 PleasingFungus, should Transference wake monsters? 13:46:30 I suppose Dithmenos shadowstep does a similar effect for stabbers, and it does have a piety cost 13:48:10 dith is stab god, tho 13:59:01 -!- elan_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:59:33 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:57 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:58 The build has errored. (master - 3c3cda1 #6441 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/155609996 14:01:59 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:02:14 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:24 packages again 14:02:35 hmm, do claws and talons both use "you claw the foo!" messages? 14:02:54 wonder if that c/should be differentiated 14:03:20 rake at, possibly 14:03:53 -!- rossi__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:04:52 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:06:29 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:07:49 that was my thought as well 14:07:57 I'll probably make a commit once I take a break 14:08:43 nice relaxing crawl commit breaks 14:08:55 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1256-g95fae04 (34) 14:18:54 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:24:24 -!- home has quit [Client Quit] 14:27:13 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:28:10 http://i.imgur.com/rj4Qq43.png this seems like something that shouldn't happen 14:29:18 it's a closet 14:29:21 lol 14:29:24 very compact 14:29:47 I have an ancient bug report about odd doors somewhere 14:30:11 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:30:22 !bug 8495 14:30:23 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8495 14:31:17 so, is there a vault nearby? 14:31:31 full-level vault on Snake:$ 14:31:34 naga huts 14:31:42 I'll attach a screenshot of minimap too 14:32:59 hut hut! 14:33:09 if it's a full-level vault, then surely that's a vault problem, not a layout problem 14:33:19 http://i.imgur.com/tRSU7xF.png 14:33:48 let's see if I can recognize this vault in snake.des... 14:34:38 hmm, I see grunt_snake_rune_pools but nothing for the rest of the level 14:34:55 that doesn't look full-level, that looks like two vaults 14:34:58 the one on the left is also a vault 14:35:01 I've been tricked! 14:35:33 far left looks like nicolae_snake_biting_tails rotated 14:35:38 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:36:49 -!- mibert has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:37 plausible 14:37:46 anyway looks like layout issues, but not necessarily vault related 14:38:45 I feel like snake could use a few extra vaults 14:41:35 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:46:32 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:48:20 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:52:29 !mantis 10634 14:52:29 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10634 14:52:39 this is good, it turns out basically every monster with a death trigger is broken in the same way 14:53:31 I'm surprised that bug took until now to crop up 14:53:37 when were phantom mirrors implemented? 14:53:45 i think you could get two borises alive at once by killing a phantom boris and then leaving the real one behind and carrying on exploring 14:54:49 only one or two versions ago 14:54:55 not one version. two or three, i guess 14:55:10 %git 83d1d28874efe5d587f101e742ca489fbdde6b74 14:55:11 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-1777-g83d1d28: Evokable: the phantom mirror. 10(1 year, 10 months ago, 12 files, 115+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/83d1d28874ef 14:55:24 three. i'm gonna call that success 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:11 "If only clerics were a background, then you could take your NaCl to Salt " 15:04:40 !lm * br.enter=desolation 15:04:41 35. [2016-08-27 18:46:09] fantismo the Warrior (L16 MiFi of Okawaru) entered the Desolation of Salt on turn 26726. (Elf:1) 15:04:50 roughly 1 a hour 15:04:54 seems lowish? 15:04:58 !lg * br=desolation 15:04:59 3. fantismo the Warrior (L16 MiFi of Okawaru), blasted by a crystal guardian (crystal bolt) in Desolation (desolation_of_salt) on 2016-08-27 18:51:39, with 162730 points after 27075 turns and 2:14:50. 15:05:02 r i p 15:05:04 !lg * br=desolation -2 15:05:05 2/3. chequers the Grappler (L13 TrTm of Ru), demolished by a saltling in Desolation (desolation_of_salt) on 2016-08-27 05:03:20, with 33188 points after 15491 turns and 0:50:26. 15:05:08 lmao 15:05:09 chequers! 15:05:13 level 13 a little low, yeah 15:05:21 I went in at 15 and didn't feel comfortable at all 15:05:26 this DsIE is very fragile though 15:05:30 it's aimed around 18 or so 15:05:41 !lm * br.enter=snake recent x=avg(xl) 15:05:51 24387 milestones for * (br.enter=snake recent): avg(xl)=16.03 15:05:54 mm 15:06:04 !lm * br.enter=desolation recent x=avg(xl) 15:06:05 35 milestones for * (br.enter=desolation recent): avg(xl)=17.29 15:06:16 of course, portal branches should always be a bit more challenging than whatever they're in 15:06:16 !lm * br.enter=elf recent x=avg(xl) 15:06:18 otherwise where's the fun? 15:06:19 I agree 15:06:27 pressure and risk create tension and excitement 15:06:33 32362 milestones for * (br.enter=elf recent): avg(xl)=17.92 15:06:48 i worry that the rewards might be a little low 15:06:56 are there only the three huts? 15:06:57 haven't seen complaints about that yet, but people might still be getting used to the enemies 15:06:59 yeah 15:07:27 could always add more later 15:07:27 desolation seems perfect for a ruined_temple type vault 15:07:40 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-1257-gb6b82fb: Unbrace. 10(34 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b6b82fb6e867 15:07:40 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-1258-g4ecb747: Enforce minimum 0.2 attack delay even when hasted (GenericPseudonym) 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4ecb74722be2 15:08:00 -!- sysice has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:08:00 !vault ruined_temple 15:08:00 Can't find ruined_temple. 15:08:00 !source lair.des 15:08:00 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des 15:08:00 !vault wheals_shoals_ruined_temple 15:08:00 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/shoals.des#L928 15:08:17 -!- snakers28 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:09:01 hmm, I thought braces were omitted for single lines? 15:09:13 oh, it's because of the comments? 15:09:27 <|amethyst> yeah, the unbrace script treats that comment as part of the same block 15:09:33 <|amethyst> because of its indentation 15:10:07 <|amethyst> (as long as it's indented as much or more as the sleep_pow = 0; line, unbrace treats it as the same block) 15:10:13 gotcha 15:20:06 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:21:34 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1259-g4fc3c0a: Fix some monster death effects being triggered by illusions (#10634) 10(2 minutes ago, 4 files, 60+ 59-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4fc3c0a62d21 15:26:00 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:29:10 I wonder how old that code was that MarvinPA just rewrote/replaced 15:30:59 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:59 i didn't do much other than indent it an extra tab, but it's a pretty wide range! 15:31:12 i guess the boris handling is probably the oldest bit, natasha the newest 15:31:48 oh I didn't look too closely at what was changed and split view misled me, oops 15:33:25 new food item https://66.media.tumblr.com/59aa997dbcd219e12335db82c867fbb6/tumblr_o1a74v6g6I1r7aucxo1_1280.jpg 15:33:53 some sort of.. pastry, with ice cream in it? 15:33:57 looks tasty 15:34:49 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:35:01 Brannock: that question mark implies that you think I know what the hell this is. I don't 15:38:18 don't overthink it 15:39:29 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:38 |amethyst: do you use NerdTree or netrw? 15:41:50 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:05 I've been toying with the latter, but its bookmark system is kind of bad, so I might move to the former 15:42:38 there's a cdargs plugin but it only changed the working dir, so it's kind of cumbersome 15:46:58 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:48:03 -!- mibert has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:49:42 -!- eb is now known as eb_mobile 15:49:46 -!- eb_ is now known as eb 15:49:59 oh, right, hepliaklqana gives you -10% hp 15:50:05 i was wondering why I felt so fragile this game 15:50:09 lol 15:50:10