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00:33:56 is cheese basically a dish invented to keep the food from rotting away 00:33:58 *isn't 00:35:59 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:41:05 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:42:29 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:47:26 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:48:08 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:54:40 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:56:23 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:40 -!- FiftyNine55043 has quit [] 01:07:13 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:12:27 Okay, gammafunk, I need your help 01:13:05 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:16:37 Somehow my msys console's home '~' is getting injected into the installer's save directory, and I tried removing all the '~'s in the SAVEDIR= parts of the build scripts in the makefile, but it's not having any effect on the error 01:16:46 Save directory "C:/Users/Dracunos/AppData/Roaming/C:/msys64/crawl/saves/" does not exist and I can't create it. 01:17:01 When trying to launch the installed game from the windows installer 01:17:22 Besides that, I don't really speak makeneese 01:17:51 And besides, it's only one guy who wants the gnollcrawl offline install, can I just zip up a regular tiles make? 01:18:03 Or will that mess up the save directories if you move it around 01:18:53 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1201-gda63bca (34) 01:21:21 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:27:10 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:28:31 -!- joy1999 has quit [Quit: Http://www.ZeroIRC.NET ¢Æ Zero IRC ¢Æ Ver 2.9G] 01:29:00 -!- koboldina has joined ##crawl-dev 01:31:59 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:33:42 is it true that the mindelay of a dancing weapon determines its move speed 01:39:20 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:43:50 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:45:29 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:47:18 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:47:26 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:47:54 koboldina: the delay, i believe 01:47:57 could be wrong 01:48:28 update: i'm right 01:54:51 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1201-gda63bca 01:55:00 :O 01:56:37 -!- joy1999 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:56:51 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:57:48 -!- mibe_ is now known as mibe 01:58:16 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01:03 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:11:42 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:12:15 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:13:48 hey pleasingfungus hepl ancestors are still considered insubstantial right 02:13:58 should be 02:13:59 why 02:14:39 -!- eb has quit [] 02:16:20 knowing koboldina it is for nefarious reasons 02:16:42 koboldina will do naughty things to her ancestor 02:16:42 what like the ghost bj scene in the original ghostbusters 02:16:46 or was that ghostbusters 2 02:16:49 shrug 02:17:00 (the plan is to cast shatter a lot) 02:17:07 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 02:17:25 if you can spam shatter i feel like you can afford to damage your ancestor 02:19:24 what if I don't want to harm my beloved grandpa 02:20:14 shoulda been a seamstress 02:20:21 just petrify him first 02:20:36 won't get hurt while his abs are ROCK HARD 02:21:01 he seems to be immune to petrification 02:21:08 I wanted to petrify him and then lrd him to kill monsters around him 02:21:10 and the game would not let me 02:21:33 try getting more spellpower 02:21:54 no no it just says he's "unaffected" which I'm p sure means he's immune 02:21:59 -!- glosham has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:22:10 what if you had 40000 spellpower though 02:22:14 it'd probably work then 02:22:24 ALWAYS_PETRIFY 02:23:21 unaffected means immune generally 02:23:40 and your ancestor is intangible, so it'd be immune to petrify anyway 02:23:46 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:27:29 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:31:56 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:42:24 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:43:06 it's in the original ghostbusters 02:43:11 at a really weird place in the movie too 02:48:19 -!- sneakynesss has joined ##crawl-dev 02:48:22 -!- Rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev 02:49:27 -!- bh_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:49:41 -!- johnny0_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:49:42 -!- shmup_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:49:50 -!- greensnark has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:15 -!- ZanniqlcKzxkq has joined ##crawl-dev 02:51:07 -!- johnny0 has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:51:11 -!- johnny0_ is now known as johnny0 02:51:52 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1201-gda63bca 02:52:51 -!- Weretaco_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:54:38 -!- Kenran has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:39 -!- flappity has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:39 -!- minmay has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:39 -!- Rast- has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:39 -!- Vesto has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:39 -!- namad7 has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:39 -!- sneakyness has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:39 -!- Kintak has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:40 -!- greensna1k has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:40 -!- timbabwe has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:40 -!- Xjs|moonshine has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:40 -!- bh has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:40 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:40 -!- tw_ has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:40 -!- buki has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:40 -!- shmup has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:40 -!- lvh has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:40 -!- Weretaco has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:41 -!- Zannick has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:41 -!- anticore has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:41 -!- orionstein has quit [*.net *.split] 02:54:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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I've never tried to use it on windows. Since you'd only make the installer for a release, where we'd use cross-compilation 06:17:49 I can take a look at that stuff tomorrow maybe 06:18:21 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:21:14 -!- rubinko_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:22:29 I appreciate it 06:23:42 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:27:22 -!- Zymurgist1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:37:18 -!- jefus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:39:43 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:43:09 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 06:48:12 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:11:29 -!- sysice has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:12:57 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:15:57 -!- bh_ is now known as bh 07:16:22 -!- bh has quit [Changing host] 07:16:23 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 07:19:38 -!- Zappo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:25:14 -!- stanzill is now known as stanzwecha 07:36:43 -!- jefus_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:41:46 -!- ig0rb1t has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:42:12 -!- scorchgeek has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:44:52 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 07:46:34 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:48:26 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:49:09 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:51:41 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:53:12 -!- mad0wl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02:15 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 08:02:25 -!- sky_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:12:22 -!- ig0rb1t has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:13:02 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:27:41 zq 08:36:04 <|amethyst> Space distorts slightly along a thin shroud covering your body. 08:37:22 <|amethyst> should that use "form" when player::is_insubstantial() ? 08:38:02 <|amethyst> also, is it intentional that shadow form is not insubstantial? 08:38:29 <|amethyst> (the monster version uses "form" in that case) 08:39:20 <|amethyst> (err, in the insubstantial case; shadow form isn't a thing for monsters, of course, but MONS_PLAYER_SHADOW is M_INSUBSTATIAL) 08:44:00 yeah, probably so 08:44:12 Shadow form isn't insubstantial? 08:44:14 That seems wrong 08:46:53 <|amethyst> !source player::is_insubstantial 08:46:53 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#L6305 08:47:17 that seems like an oversight to me 08:47:41 maybe the thought is that since the player is still using equipment they can't be insubstantial? 08:48:20 <|amethyst> hm 08:50:08 i feel like it was maybe intentional just to cut down on the great big list of things it does 08:50:11 but not sure 08:51:21 <|amethyst> effects of player (not monster) insubstantiality: immune to Leda's, inconstrictible, immune to shatter, no damage from colliding 08:51:43 <|amethyst> all the other effects are monster-specific 08:52:28 <|amethyst> (unless one of these pieces of code I skipped over has actor *mon; or something like that) 08:52:35 also immunity to sticky flame DOT 08:52:39 right? 08:53:13 <|amethyst> nope 08:53:20 heh, hilarious 08:53:25 wisp form has sticky flame immunity separately though 08:53:28 <|amethyst> aha 08:53:40 insubstantial monsters are just more insubstantial than players 08:53:56 <|amethyst> yeah, player::is_insubstatial was just return false; before wisp form was added 08:53:58 that could be moved off the form and onto insubstantialness i suppose 08:54:16 that's what I would have expected, given how monsters interact w/ it 08:54:27 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: might have to add that to monster AI though 08:54:43 <|amethyst> hm 08:54:44 ah yeah, maybe 08:56:02 <|amethyst> No TILE defined for 'amulet of invisibility' 08:56:34 . . . did someone make an amulet of invisibility? 08:56:44 <|amethyst> as an artefact for Fedhas sprint 08:56:49 <|amethyst> %git d715d3d8 08:56:49 07MarvinPA02 * 0.19-a0-1192-gd715d3d: Change Fedhas sprint's cloak of invisibility to an amulet 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 11+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d715d3d86807 08:56:52 ahh 08:58:55 <|amethyst> !tell ontoclasm A tile is needed for amulet of invisibility (an unrand for Fedhas Sprint only: 0.19-a0-1192-gd715d3d) 08:58:55 |amethyst: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 08:59:11 The deep troll shaman calls upon its god to strengthen NO_TARGET. 08:59:19 ah yeah, i was going to make it use just one of the unid'd amulet tiles for the time being 08:59:23 And that's as a demigod, so no pain bond shenanigans 08:59:45 but forgot, and i don't remember if no tile messes with complilation or just makes it warn and show up as an error? 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:12 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: just a warning, and I guess probably a "?" icon? 09:00:18 <|amethyst> s/icon/tile/ 09:00:24 ah ok, yeah 09:01:03 <|amethyst> oh, even better 09:01:05 <|amethyst> TO 09:01:06 <|amethyst> DO 09:04:55 -!- tcsc has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:10:45 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:11:52 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:14:30 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:29:09 I'm not worshipping Ru, but: 09:29:09 The lich casts a spell. 09:29:09 The lich is devoured by a tear in reality. 09:29:24 I've been casting lightning bolt a ton, and I'm getting some weird monster targeting that may or may not be related. 09:30:38 again, not worshipping Ru or Uskayaw 09:30:58 <|amethyst> %git e9ec8d56 09:30:58 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1196-ge9ec8d5: Refactoring: _target_and_justify_spell() 10(19 hours ago, 1 file, 80+ 57-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e9ec8d56cff6 09:31:02 %git 9ec8d56cff6bc3ba17570ed74e9a0f2f9c9002e 09:31:02 Could not find commit 9ec8d56cff6bc3ba17570ed74e9a0f2f9c9002e (git returned 128) 09:31:05 oops 09:31:06 <|amethyst> I would start by investigating that and 09:31:07 but yes, that one 09:31:10 feasibly related! 09:31:12 <|amethyst> %git 0055e6a09e 09:31:12 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1197-g0055e6a: Remove _ms_low_hitpoint_cast() (7236) 10(19 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 83-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0055e6a09ef5 09:31:35 hmm 09:33:46 !tell pleasingfungus See messages between here and previous message "The deep troll shaman calls upon its god to strengthen NO_TARGET.". I'm looking into this, but I've got family here so probably won't get to look for long. 09:33:46 Lasty: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 09:34:37 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:38:43 I don't see any problems in those two commits... 09:39:09 -!- rubberturtle has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:40:04 hrm 09:40:47 actually I take that back 09:40:57 I think it's g0055e6a 09:46:39 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:53:50 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:54:27 -!- tcsc has joined ##crawl-dev 09:54:50 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:14 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06:09 -!- Sonata has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 10:07:03 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:10:31 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:17:20 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:24 -!- sage1234 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:25:04 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:28:02 -!- liquidsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:31:22 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:34:11 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:36:36 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:12 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:45:32 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Use !messages to read it. 11:37:34 it looks like i broke something with monster targetting, but i can't reproduce the problem 11:37:46 someone in sa reports a low-hp sphinx paralysing itself 11:37:56 Lasty was reporting similar things earlier 11:37:59 !seen amalloy 11:37:59 I last saw amalloy at Sat Aug 20 06:22:12 2016 UTC (9h 15m 47s ago) saying 'it'd probably work then' on ##crawl-dev. 11:38:01 yeah 11:38:03 !seen amalloy_ 11:38:03 I last saw amalloy_ at Mon Jun 27 01:27:07 2016 UTC (7w 5d 14h 10m 56s ago) saying 'oh, i never noticed that was supposed to be the geh end' on ##crawl-dev. 11:38:57 oh i can repro it 11:39:14 just wizmode x, a sphinx and it paralysed itself straight away 11:39:43 hm 11:40:23 but it doesn't seem guaranteed, it slowed me first and then itself 11:45:35 i got a whole pack of these sphinxers, but they're all behaving correctly very consistently, even when emergency casting 11:48:12 huh, very weird 11:48:50 not sure that i'm doing anything special that would cause it to trigger, just wizmoded up an xl27 human 11:49:08 mon-cast.cc:3393:17: error: use of undeclared identifier 'beam'; did you mean 'beem'? 11:49:08 -!- chan20 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:50:00 <|amethyst> 3393 is something completely different here 11:50:09 <|amethyst> %source mon-cast.cc:3393 11:50:09 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=cheibriados.git https://github.com/crawl/monster/ https://github.com/crawl/crawl/ 11:50:17 <|amethyst> err 11:50:19 <|amethyst> !source mon-cast.cc:3393 11:50:19 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc#L3393 11:50:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1203-g7dfd8ee: Maybe fix monster spell targeting 10(28 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7dfd8ee804a5 11:50:42 yeah that was just a funny line from my attempted fix 11:50:46 beem_is_beam, etc 11:50:51 seemed funny to me 11:51:51 <|amethyst> so what's the purpose of this low hp cast thing 11:51:59 MarvinPA: can you see if you can reproduce it with that commit ^ ? 11:52:08 |amethyst: that's the emergency spells code 11:52:32 <|amethyst> what makes it pick an emergency spell? 11:52:41 <|amethyst> was hspell_pass already trimmed down I guess? 11:53:06 hrm 11:53:09 actually, that's a good question 11:53:22 <|amethyst> !source _find_spell_prospect 11:53:22 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc#L3135 11:53:28 <|amethyst> hm 11:53:33 it's not trimmed down 11:54:42 right, this isn't something i changed 11:54:57 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:55:03 monsters will only cast emergency spells while in an emergency, but while in an emergency, they're willing to cast many different spells 11:55:17 including non-emergency spells 11:55:57 before 0055e6a09ef50ac26, that was limited to a specific list of spells that are emergency spells for some monsters 11:56:08 but not limited to the spells marked emergency for any given monster 11:56:12 <|amethyst> hm 11:57:24 <|amethyst> but now it seems like the only difference between a low-HP cast and a normal cast is that it ignores spell weights, is allowed to take emergency spells, is allowed to cast non-emergency spells if it is fleeing, and ignores the MON_SPELL_{LONG,SHORT}_RANGE flags 11:57:37 <|amethyst> s/difference/&s/ 11:59:04 <|amethyst> I think only "is allowed to cast emergency spells" is important or desired here ? 11:59:06 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:59:19 i could maybe make an argument for spell weights, but yeah 11:59:31 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:32 <|amethyst> hm 12:00:52 -!- Krakhan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:00:52 <|amethyst> and _find_spell_prospect already allows emergency spells if you are in an emergency 12:01:22 <|amethyst> I think you could remove this block in _choose_a_spell altogether? 12:01:37 but then how would kraken spit ink continuously 12:01:58 <|amethyst> or get closer to the original intent (I think) by both doing that, and changing the fleeing check in _find_spell_prospect to 12:02:18 <|amethyst> if (mons_is_fleeing(&mons) || mons.pacified() ||_mons_in_emergency(mons) && one_chance_in(mons.type == MONS_KRAKEN ? 4 : 8) 12:02:21 <|amethyst> ) 12:03:10 <|amethyst> which would make it ignore weights, and choose only emergency spells, but now it uses the slot rather than that hard-coded list 12:05:28 what hard-coded list 12:05:33 <|amethyst> the one you removed 12:05:36 hm 12:05:42 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:05:53 do you want to make this change? since you seem to have a clearer idea of what you want 12:06:27 <|amethyst> I wanted to check whether it's actually a good idea 12:06:51 <|amethyst> it would simplify the code, but I'm not sure which behaviour is best 12:07:23 <|amethyst> how *should* monsters behave when they're at low HP? 12:07:52 beats me 12:08:03 They should strike like ninjas, most hold back, they rush in one at a time 12:09:18 or disappear in a puff of smoke, leaving only a log behind 12:09:30 Yoshimitsu? 12:09:37 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1203-g7dfd8ee (34) 12:12:47 |amethyst: i mean, i'm in favor of simpler code and simpler behaviors 12:12:58 and also removing the stupid kraken case because it's a very dumb and counterproductive case 12:14:14 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:14:18 So, are the targets that crawl uses to look for saves put in the cflags? 12:15:58 ? 12:16:41 <|amethyst> yes 12:16:59 <|amethyst> -DSAVE_DIR_PATH=\"/blah\" 12:17:07 <|amethyst> well 12:17:09 <|amethyst> they can be 12:18:05 blah, no wonder all my makefile fumblery hasn't yielded any results :p 12:18:19 <|amethyst> make SAVEDIR=/usr/local/bin/blah 12:18:32 <|amethyst> err 12:18:37 <|amethyst> not bin obviously 12:33:23 Okay, so.. Here's my problem kinda simplified.. I changed -DSAVE_DIR_PATH=\"~/crawl\" flag in cflags gives me : "C:/Users/Dracunos/AppData/Roaming/C:/msys64/crawl/saves/" when I try to launch.. When I remove the tilde \"/crawl\" I just get C:/msys64/crawl/saves/.... So even without the tilde (creating what seems to be the proper path? But I'd prefer it was just in the same folder as crawl), 12:33:23 the way the game is building it really wants that msys homepath in there, and it's hard coded, even if I package it into the windows installer and install it, it makes the save files in the c:/msys64blah 12:33:30 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1203-g7dfd8ee (34) 12:34:52 But maybe when it doesn't see the tilde, it sticks it's own relative path in there willy-nilly, but when you put the tile it sees it properly, but when it tries to abs_path it does that weird bug where it stucks the home path inbetween what you're trying to path? 12:35:04 But that would be weird, two bugs at once 12:36:00 <|amethyst> Dracunos: what did you change exactly? 12:36:13 <|amethyst> in the Makefile 12:36:56 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1203-g7dfd8ee (34) 12:37:37 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:10 The spot where it declares the flag, to test what difference it made in the .cflags file 12:40:14 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:49 <|amethyst> this line? 12:40:56 <|amethyst> CFOTHERS_L += -DSAVE_DIR_PATH=\"$(abspath $(SAVEDIR))\" 12:41:05 The default windows building makefile part of the script does this, +$(MAKE) TILES= DESTDIR=build-win SAVEDIR='~/crawl' install 12:41:21 Which packs \"~/crawl\" into the cflags 12:41:36 <|amethyst> what are you changing it to? 12:41:43 So I went to the that line, yes, and started just changing it directly, to see how it affects that path error 12:42:22 I simply removed the tilde, and this is the difference it made in the resulting path: 12:42:37 "C:/Users/Dracunos/AppData/Roaming/C:/msys64/crawl/saves/" does not exist and I can't create it." 12:42:49 to creating the folder in "C:/msys64/crawl/saves/" 12:43:13 <|amethyst> ohh, I see 12:43:13 So that stupid msys is still getting stuck in there without the tilde 12:43:22 <|amethyst> it doesn't recognize that c:/blah is an absolute path 12:43:40 I see.. Where does it determine that so I can just temporarily force that? 12:43:41 <|amethyst> hm, but ~ shouldn't be getting expanded in the Makefile 12:44:00 No I mean it doesn't get expanded until I try to launch the exe 12:44:42 Well, I dunno that, but it's not showing up in the flags or anything 12:45:26 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:44 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:14 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:47:41 I'd like it to be a relative path, basically always in the same folder as the exe, isn't that how it normally is? 12:48:28 <|amethyst> if you specify a relative path in SAVEDIR, the prefix gets added before it 12:48:44 -!- fufumann has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:48:45 <|amethyst> because on Unix running an application doesn't change to its directory 12:49:23 <|amethyst> but /crawl is an absolute path 12:49:37 <|amethyst> which I guess is getting translated into c:/msys64/crawl ? 12:49:38 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:38 The build has errored. (master - 7dfd8ee #6385 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/153803855 12:49:39 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 12:50:13 <|amethyst> there's also the problem 12:50:25 -!- qguv has quit [Quit: bye] 12:50:25 So for this windows installer's sake do I need to have an absolute path? Or when you launch it it'll create save folders wherever you are, or something? 12:50:32 <|amethyst> that you usually can't write to the place where Crawl is installed 12:50:47 <|amethyst> if it's installed by admin, that would mean only admin can make a save 12:50:58 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:51:06 <|amethyst> and I'm not sure what other problems 12:51:07 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:51:19 Okay, so that default path for the c:/users whatever I guess is the way to go then 12:51:27 If only it didn't have that msys in it :p 12:51:49 <|amethyst> hm 12:51:57 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:53 Seems like such a simple problem 12:53:13 <|amethyst> problem is I don't know too much about the Windows build process 12:54:00 I mean, thep roblem isn't in the makefile at this point, right? Since this issue is being caused by what's in the the cflags at this point? Since before that point it's just a tilde/crawl 12:54:22 Where do these cflags get parsed? 12:56:51 -!- zhaorenw has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:57:29 <|amethyst> this one looks like it's only used directly in get_system_environment, to set crawl_dir 12:58:03 huh, I couldn't find it, guess I was searching the wrong thing 12:58:09 <|amethyst> then save_dir and morgue_dir are set by using _resolve_dir to add a suffix and replace the ~ 12:58:18 <|amethyst> most of this is in initfile.cc 12:58:34 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:59:14 -!- GauHelldragon2 is now known as GauHelldragon 13:00:06 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:24 <|amethyst> my guess is that something somewhere sees the c:/... and thinks that's relative, but I'm not sure 13:00:42 So stuff in the initfile is checked at compile time? 13:00:46 <|amethyst> that at least would explain why you got two paths concatenated C:/Users/Dracunos/AppData/Roaming/C:/msys64/crawl/saves/ 13:00:55 Thanks for your help 13:01:10 <|amethyst> Dracunos: no, the init file isn't read at compile time 13:01:29 <|amethyst> Dracunos: but SAVE_DIR_PATH, provided at compile time, is used to set the default before reading the init file 13:03:19 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:03:51 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:13 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:04:22 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:10:38 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:10:38 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:12:28 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:12:56 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:59 finally getting some debugging printouts.. I couldn't figure out echoing out variables in makefile, it kept erroring at me, horrible trying to debug without it :p 13:20:06 I swear I literally like copy pasted another @echo and it still didn't like it :p 13:21:17 -!- us17 has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 13:22:09 So, SysEnv.crawl_dir.c_str() == ~C:/msys/blah 13:24:06 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:26:10 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:27:01 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:28:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:28:32 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:33:02 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:49 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 13:44:24 -!- flappity_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:46:19 -!- bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:51:38 !tell pleasingfungus i can't repro it anymore so does look like it's hopefully fixed by that commit! 13:51:38 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:07:20 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:07:38 evidence removing book amnesia has actually made a difference: borg and ddoor are at 1% if we ever find enough amnesia to learn them 14:08:01 what an achievement 14:14:20 o hai'malloy 14:15:40 morning 14:29:17 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:03 -!- Hannobal has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:54:07 ? 14:56:26 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 14:58:29 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:41 ¿ 15:05:54 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:38 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:23:35 -!- xorxor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:26:07 we could combine them into a single spell, fewer cumulative levels that way: borg's door 15:26:33 just takes you to borg's room, a low key place to chill and rest up a bit 15:27:20 Nergalle chills defiantly in borg's door! 15:27:20 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 15:27:24 !messageds 15:27:28 !messages 15:27:28 (1/1) |amethyst said (6h 28m 32s ago): A tile is needed for amulet of invisibility (an unrand for Fedhas Sprint only: 0.19-a0-1192-gd715d3d) 15:28:40 |amethyst: i would just use the existing one for armor 15:28:58 /armour/brands/i-invisibility.png 15:29:24 i think since it's an unrand it doesn't use that handling 15:29:47 sure, but the tile exists 15:29:59 i guess more to the point: i dunno how to hook it up in code 15:31:32 -!- Telnaior has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:31:49 MarvinPA: have you seen the dream sheep PR (https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/321) ; curious if you have any thoughts on that one 15:32:20 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 15:32:35 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 15:33:03 -!- lvh_ is now known as lvh 15:33:22 no strong opinions on the idea generally but i don't like the self-summoning thing 15:34:22 (for the same reasons you already said basically) 15:34:35 yeah, ok, thanks 15:35:34 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:35:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:38:00 replacing plain sheep sounds okay, maybe shouldn't be as common as current sheep though 15:44:09 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:18 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 15:47:42 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:48:22 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:56:53 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:59:06 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:25 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:11 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:10:21 -!- Stone_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:23:19 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 16:23:52 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:24:38 -!- woodjrx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:26:48 hello 16:30:35 -!- buki_ is now known as buki 16:31:29 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:33:08 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:35:19 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:50:40 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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I'm not here, out hanging with my abombros 16:56:28 which xom face makes the best twitch emote? 16:56:34 !source xom0.png 16:56:35 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/dngn/altars/xom0.png 16:57:39 probably xom0, tbh 16:57:41 I'd say 6 16:58:09 or 2 for when you make a mistake 16:59:03 i want a function argument to indicate either "this thing is a spell that is cast", or "this thing is an ability that is used". do we already have an enum somewhere that has those values? 16:59:52 of course i can use bool is_spell, but i'd rather not introduce more boolean blindness 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:38 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:01:21 six is actually better, now that I look at it, thanks 17:01:33 -!- mordieth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:02:12 oh maybe i want like MON_SPELL_WIZARD 17:02:23 vs MON_SPELL_NATURAL? 17:02:23 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:02:51 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:02:54 xom3 is pretty strong 17:02:59 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:03:42 PleasingFungus: well i'm working on _booktype_header 17:03:50 !source _booktype_header 17:03:50 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/describe-spells.cc#L101 17:03:53 which currently distinguishes between MON_SPELL_WIZARD vs everything else 17:04:08 so i am gonna just reuse that distinction 17:04:09 using the existing flags sounds reasonable 17:04:52 -!- wannabe_wallaby has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:05:09 -!- woodjrx has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05:38 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:05:53 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:09:27 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:13:50 Good god, have I finally figured this out 17:13:58 And of course it's hilariously simple 17:14:11 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:14:39 It worked for me, so I'm pretty sure it works, but I'm still holding out on being happy until that guy actually tries to install and it works 17:14:42 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 17:14:47 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:28 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:16:32 03amalloy02 07* 0.19-a0-1204-g250f30a: Use correct pronouns in describing deduced monster spellbooks 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 24+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/250f30af71b2 17:18:07 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:25:02 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:25:09 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:31:00 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:32:28 -!- arcanemastermind has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:40:04 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:40:17 gammafunk, this commit kinda highlights the issue I was having and how I solved it. It was as simple as turning ~/crawl into ~//crawl for SAVEDIR. What do you think about adding some information somewhere in case someone has a similar problem? I'm not completely sure if this is always required or just an issue in my own environment, though, given my inexperience. https://github.com/Dracun 17:40:17 os/gnollcrawl/commit/a8ffd03080715e6321eadab873c62b14f58ff646 17:44:50 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:48:14 initfile.cc:728 is where the '~' gets turned into a good windows path, but even before that point the sysenv has C:/msys stuck in it 17:50:54 Thank you guys for your help, btw 17:52:48 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:04 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:59:42 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:50 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:03:13 -!- devesine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:21 -!- zeroDivisible has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:21 -!- joy1999 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:21 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:21 -!- Cham has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:22 -!- knu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:23 -!- devesine has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:24 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:24 The build passed. (master - 250f30a #6386 : Alan Malloy): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/153846144 18:03:25 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:03:38 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:39 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:39 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:39 -!- Medar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:39 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:40 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:40 -!- XVar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:40 -!- surr has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:40 -!- GoatMann has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:59 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:59 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 18:05:15 -!- Medar has joined ##crawl-dev 18:06:32 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-1204-g250f30a (34) 18:07:03 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:08:42 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:08:56 -!- XVar has quit [Changing host] 18:09:22 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1204-g250f30a (34) 18:11:09 -!- FIQ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:32 -!- GiantOwl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:17:42 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:44 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 18:21:05 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:22:36 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:26:34 ontoclasm: I went to crop and scale natasha.png so its max dimension is 28 pixels to make an emote, but after doing that I see there's a problem that the image's shadow should be removed 18:26:52 I think I can do that for most of the image, but that back leg is a bit of a problem 18:31:11 what is the significance of the natasha emote? 18:31:12 just a sec 18:31:14 what does natasha connote? 18:31:25 uhoh spoilers 18:31:28 -!- Dracunos has left ##crawl-dev 18:32:10 -!- Kranix has quit [Client Quit] 18:32:53 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:34:15 cheeky way of telling someone to go die several times 18:34:21 s/cheeky/catty/ 18:34:32 gammafunk: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/natasha28.png 18:35:07 PleasingFungus: it connotes CUTE CATS 18:35:35 fr: felid mummies 18:35:42 obviously if you ask such questions, you have no idea how to maximize twitch stream revenue like I do 18:35:54 ontoclasm: oh, thanks! 18:35:55 ohh, twitch 18:35:59 for some reason i was thinking about tavern 18:36:09 well, it's meaningless on twitch as well 18:36:13 but people like cats 18:36:38 ontoclasm: I just realized that the back purple bit in the original was her other hind leg! 18:36:48 I was wondering what that was there for when looking at it zoomed up 18:36:52 tmyk 18:37:13 GfGastronokSalty 18:39:35 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:41:50 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:43:28 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9n26s56cigsbnff/AADSGLE4D9VdgGZPSW5wRG3sa?lst 18:43:48 Those are the 9 emotes with the emote text being the filename (minus .png) 18:44:06 if anyone has suggestions for image changes/emote renames 18:45:06 To make most I just cropped surrounding pixels not in the image, scaled and cropped to get the max dimension <= 28; they don't have to be square 18:46:01 wow, those file size variations 18:46:18 I should mention that the guidelines are here: https://www.frankerfacez.com/emoticons/submit 18:46:50 haven't seen how they look on both #F2F2F2 and #19191F backgrounds yet 18:47:31 fr: crawl where only god choices are trog, makhleb, xom 18:48:49 a purer crawl... 18:49:11 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:53:33 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:58:29 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:58:47 -!- jerkstore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:58 -!- Findleman has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:01:49 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:45 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:13:46 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:14:34 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:21:10 -!- rubberturtle has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:23:20 If I get a weapon of pain but don't have any necro spell online then I cannot train necro - expected? 19:26:50 yes 19:27:33 my gargoyle carrying an amazing +9 dwhip of pain, with ~15 books with no necro spells, curses you. :-| 19:28:07 damn - the only necro spell I have access to is sublimation of blood which I cannot memorize. grrrr 19:28:22 the price of playing gr imo 19:28:52 MarvinPA: I heard you had a modified sil version - what happened to it? 19:30:52 it still exists, https://github.com/MarvinPA/mpa-sil/ 19:31:14 the sil-1.3.0 branch is the up-to-date one 19:32:26 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:32:38 -!- koboldina_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:51 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:43:51 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 19:46:34 MarvinPA: you should mod tome 19:47:20 i did a bit, in the very distant past! i shrunk all the western dungeons a bunch, and i forget what else 19:48:02 MarvinPA: i believe you had a changelog entry saying "remove that stupid dream volcano" but really the entire thing was the dream volcano and it was your dreams 19:50:29 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:51:19 i didn't even know there was a dream volcano! 19:52:16 i do remember some dream forge ability tree which i guess it is related to, i think i stopped following dev around that time though 19:52:17 minmay dreaming about marvinpa's dreams of dream volcanos 19:52:49 "we have to go deeper" 19:52:51 it's dream volcanos all the way down, or something 19:53:15 -!- Siegurt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:55:00 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:36 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:05 ??ztome[2 20:01:05 ztome[2/2]: <+evilmike> he probably has something like "remove that stupid dream volcano" in the change log, but really the entire thing is the dream volcano, and it's his dreams 20:01:13 I have had dreams about having dreams though 20:01:16 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:20 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:26:15 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:31:13 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:36:33 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:39:07 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:40:54 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:53 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:47:02 03amalloy02 07* 0.19-a0-1205-g95eeff9: Factor out a common sub-expression 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/95eeff9c06b4 20:48:18 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:58:21 -!- staplegun has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:02 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:02:37 03amalloy02 07* 0.19-a0-1206-g6bcb79c: Follow up on a TODO by using some lambdas 10(20 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6bcb79cb0d14 21:03:06 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 21:05:20 fr: Lambda Spell 21:05:39 s 21:05:55 summon lambdas 21:07:42 spell cast by the guardian of rune #16, the lithpy rune 21:08:54 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1205-g95eeff9 (34) 21:13:41 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:14:54 as opposed to destroy lambdas, cast by the guardian of the Cish rune 21:15:59 (also, arguably delayed fireball is fireball + lambda :p ) 21:20:50 -!- Zymurgist has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:28:41 there is a continuation leading upcall here, spattered with blood. 21:32:38 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:34:20 the mad theorist shouts "ημ"! the higher order executioner hits! 21:35:39 _you feel categorically bound. 21:42:20 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:45:58 CanOfWorms: I submitted HappyFeet along with 8 other emotes for my frankerfacez channel 21:46:46 !!! 21:46:48 also included dissolution but I went with natasha, lom, and gastro 21:47:01 what are the other 4 21:47:02 aka CatToy, Time4Magic, and TakeItEasy 21:47:16 altar emotes for GoTrog GoMakhleb and GoXom 21:47:29 HappyFeet and MoreTentacles (tmons) and ... 21:47:40 ah 21:47:45 EyeSeeMuts (shining eye) 21:48:04 :O 21:48:19 -!- morgenmantel has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:48:47 CanOfWorms: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9n26s56cigsbnff/AADSGLE4D9VdgGZPSW5wRG3sa?dl=0 so you can make fun of the scaling/cropping I did 21:48:53 onto had to help me clean up natasha 21:49:10 I can submit more (up to 25 in your channel), but this seemed a good starting set 21:49:19 gotta save space for sif 21:49:34 oh, that gastro one isn't the one I uploaded, which was a bit better 21:50:10 yeah, I didn't upload sif since we have a master artist at work on it right now! 21:55:21 -!- punpun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:58:48 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 21:58:51 hi 21:59:07 i see what you guys did for solving the read/quaff from inv or floor thing 21:59:11 i like it 21:59:28 that reminds me, at some point soonish i'll want some youtube channel art but i don't really have anything i love. would it be hard to get something like the dungeon crawl title text in 2560x1440? 21:59:41 that is their recommended size, anyway 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:10 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:08:54 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1206-g6bcb79c (34) 22:09:21 yeah, was trying to figure out what to use for that 22:09:27 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:09:28 The build has errored. (master - 6bcb79c #6388 : Alan Malloy): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/153868261 22:09:28 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:09:33 shhhh 22:10:20 amalloy: I think there's an svg of it in the repo, so it shouldn't be hard to rescale? 22:10:28 if you mean that new logo 22:11:11 oh that's the cauldron 22:11:52 i mean, i don't really know what i want. i just want something unobtrusive but banner-shaped that's vaguely related to rawl without looking too tiley 22:12:59 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:14:51 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:18:17 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:19:27 amalloy: one of the god tourney banners? 22:19:40 oh, that's an interesting idea 22:21:49 CanOfWorms: yeah, i like that. how would i go about getting, say, the slow & steady 1 banner with the text "amalloy" instead? 22:22:21 if I still have the svgs on my computer I can render an image on my end 22:23:42 yup, still got it 22:24:02 thanks! 22:24:12 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:24:19 now to remember what the slow and steady colours are 22:24:41 CanOfWorms: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/images/banner_cheibriados1.png ? 22:24:45 if that helps 22:27:23 do you want amalloy without any capitalization or "Amalloy" 22:27:27 no caps please 22:27:27 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:27:50 i always get a weird shiver of hatred when i see "Amalloy's ghost" 22:28:28 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:31:41 -!- bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:32:37 -!- Hiffwe has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:32:58 alright, how big do you want the banner 22:35:12 CanOfWorms: youtube seems to be asking for 2560x1440, at 4MB or less 22:35:43 that sounds like, really absurdly huge but what do i know 22:36:01 well I'll give you 2560x800 since that's the rough size of the banner 22:36:10 if that doesn't work I can re-render :v 22:36:13 okay 22:36:45 http://i.imgur.com/4kci50B.png 22:38:04 CanOfWorms: they require at least 2048x1152 apparently 22:38:32 didn't tell me that until i tried using yours, which seems like crappy UX 22:39:03 heh 22:39:04 http://i.imgur.com/la9GYjJ.png 22:41:27 a banner with your name on it....your channel already shows your name, amalloy! 22:41:45 Might has well have it say, "Hello, My Name Is: amalloy" 22:41:56 you need a catchphrase 22:42:17 huh. now they're showing me how it's going to look on pc/tv/mobile, and on all three it looks ass because they crop weird parts of the image, and i can't figure out how to fix that 22:42:23 like..."Slow and Ready Wins the Race" 22:42:38 hmm 22:42:38 I can add some padding 22:43:27 or "The Deep One. Elves 4 Lyfe" 22:44:00 http://i.imgur.com/COaHEgp.png 22:44:02 try this one 22:44:20 CanOfWorms: http://imgur.com/a/AHeWe is how they're cropping btw, in case that is helpful 22:44:39 nice. 22:45:32 is that with the latest one? 22:45:42 no, that was the earlier one 22:46:07 latest it...doesn't crop the "amalloy" out at least, but you can't see the shape of the banner at all, it's just text on a solid cyan 22:46:17 i can't believe how inflexible they are about the cropping 22:47:15 added how the new one looks to that same album 22:47:17 http://i.imgur.com/NtNFpeT.png 22:47:20 try this 22:48:15 oh that looks pretty decent i think 22:48:53 yeah, i'll take it 22:48:57 cool 22:49:05 thanks again 22:53:08 I'll have to make one for myself with some XXX action 22:53:16 now that I'm so good at *cropping* and *scaling*, the sky is the limit 22:53:59 i had to crop a video today, because when i thought i was recording myself exploring a .des file in emacs i was actually recording a static image of some boring work code 22:54:21 haha 22:54:34 do either of you use avisynth 22:54:41 so i zoomed in on the like 20%-size mini-window of crawl 22:54:42 no 22:55:07 I've used ffmpeg recently and some of openshot and pitivi 22:55:14 it's used to write scripts to edit videos 22:55:48 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:55:51 yeah ffmpeg is a command-line tool, but I've only done trimming and a simple crop; it can do a lot, but the syntax is complicated 22:55:54 it's pretty useful for slicing out parts of footage or cropping things and doing a bunch of effects 22:56:10 gammafunk: you might want to try avisynth, it's probably similar? 22:56:28 http://avisynth.nl/index.php/Script_examples 22:57:41 CanOfWorms: looks like windows only, probably not great running it through wine/vm 22:57:48 ah 22:58:23 openshot and pitivi are pretty slow even for video trimming, but all three seemed slow when I did a crop 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:10 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:02:53 -!- royiv has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:03:39 -!- vible has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:04:53 -!- daek_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:06:26 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:09:32 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:59 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:18:43 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 23:22:36 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 23:26:28 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 23:26:29 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:34:28 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:38:45 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:43:51 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:44:52 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]