00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:09 -!- qguv has quit [Client Quit] 00:01:41 -!- halv has quit [Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org] 00:01:48 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:02:35 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:02:52 -!- cait has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 48.0/20160726073904]] 00:03:01 would people be pissed if we redid all the coc:7 maps to not require flight 00:03:49 -!- ksagri_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:08:53 -!- qguv has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:09:30 pissed might be the wrong word 00:09:37 maybe 'ecstatic' 00:10:12 between tavern and SA, *someone* will undoubtedly be pissed. probably many noisy someones. 00:10:37 this does not mean it's a bad idea 00:10:48 -!- kramin is now known as Kramin 00:13:45 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:44 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:13 -!- Chase has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:22:28 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1057-g15bb84d (34) 00:24:36 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:27:05 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:27:27 ProzacElf: Shard1697: riposte can trigger on every monster attack, roughly 00:27:41 monsters with multiple attacks (like trolls or hydras) only trigger riposte with the first one 00:27:54 but any monster that has multiple separate turns per player turn can trigger riposte repeatedly 00:28:33 ok, so hydra "attacks" are actually just one attack 'move' 00:29:55 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:30:05 yeah 00:30:28 i should probably disable the thing where riposte doesn't chop hydra heads, since it is not really a big deal either way and special cases suck. but idk 00:31:06 I think that is a specific time where a special case doesn't suck 00:31:15 PleasingFungus: that was more or less what i thought, even if i didn't articulate it that way 00:31:31 Shard1697: playerthink! 00:31:34 it probably should cut hydra heads though, even if i like it not doing it 00:31:57 if the point is to make the player unwield long blades whenever there's a hydra around, then sure 00:32:02 but I'm not a fan of that 00:32:28 also, i swear i've had some axe attacks recently where the hydra grew two heads after i swung? 00:32:44 you mean, three heads? 00:32:53 well, yes, i suppose 00:33:06 two more heads than they had before i cut one off 00:33:33 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:07 i'll admit it could just be me not paying enough attention 00:34:19 getting some sick riposte playtesting in my offline game, with a dblade of pain and fencer's gloves 00:34:33 but i'll take specific note of it unless it's actually supposed to act that way 00:35:04 amalloy: i had a KoCK recently with a broad axe and fencer's gloves. it was awesome until xom worked me over 00:35:17 conclusion is that all 4 of those things combined are Pretty Good, just like they would be with no riposte mechanic :P 00:36:27 fencer's gloves give 50% riposte on other weapons and 100% on lblades now, right? 00:36:47 correct 00:37:27 heh. should've gone lblades on that ko 00:39:15 if a player has a hydra-chopping lblade on near a hydra, it's probably ok to chop hydra heads in response to a full power attack 00:39:33 i guess some mages with stat sticks would complain 00:39:45 actually, all players would complain, but special cases suck 00:40:11 i remember someone was talking about how happy they were at using riposte to chop hydra heads under dith 00:40:14 since with dith you can't use fire 00:40:46 tbf: that seems like a really bad way to kill a hydra 00:41:10 yeah, if you're counting on riposte vs a hydra you're probably doing a lot of other things wrong too 00:41:38 this is tru 00:42:19 i mean, g-funk likes to point out how bad at this game i am from time to time, but i can tell you exactly why i died and what stupid thing i did about 99% of the time 00:43:01 i just did that stupid thing because the optimal course of action is too tedious and i don't care that much about winning until i already have at least 2 runes =p 00:44:20 i still think riposte is good but it should probably scale with weapon skill though 00:44:38 it does scale with weapon skill. 00:44:46 oh 00:44:57 but probably not in the way you mean. 00:45:12 i meant the frequency with which it happens 00:45:16 but how does it actually work? 00:45:29 oh, i just meant accuracy & damage scaling 00:45:40 i'd buy that 00:46:04 it is true that riposte means unskilled LB is better than unskilled other weapon type 00:46:14 without large difference between weapon damage 00:46:20 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46:21 but that's not nessecarily a bad thing 00:46:28 but i've heard from a number of people in ##crawl and a couple other people who are actually good at the game that it's worth your time to equip a 0 skill long sword or scimitar just for the riposte value 00:46:37 i don't necessarily trust the ##crawl-gentsia 00:46:53 but rast and snack are both actually pretty good at this game 00:47:18 crawlgentsia, heh 00:47:32 i was hoping to coin a term there XD 00:47:38 i like it 00:47:51 if you're like, caster who hasn't skilled weapon yet, it's often better than other options 00:47:58 unless you have enhancer staff or w/e 00:48:04 idk. could do something involving scaling riposte chance lower at higher weapon delay. iirc elliptic/hyperbolic had opinions on it 00:48:10 heh, rast always tells me to throw away my starting book and take trog 00:48:21 and even he thinks that this makes lblades the best casting option 00:49:02 i'm not sure it needs a major change 00:49:14 i just think it's a little too good at 0 skill 00:50:16 make a gdd threahahaha 00:50:22 good lord man 00:50:29 i'm sorry. i didn't mean it 00:50:37 i feel bad about myself when i respond to one of those threads 00:50:41 toss a formula at me or something. i'm not committed to the current system 00:50:48 i can't bear my conscience if i start one 00:50:49 lol 00:51:08 big plus is that it's very simple but i remember chat a month or two ago that it should probably be better late-game and worse early 00:51:09 what if 0 skill -> 0% chance to riposte 00:51:26 i'm not sure i like that either ontoclasm1 00:51:54 (23 + skill)% chance 00:51:54 if only because in theory new players should be able to see the benefit of a long blade 00:52:07 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:52:10 oh, it's that simple? 00:52:15 no 00:52:21 it's 50% 00:52:23 flat 00:52:25 i was making a suggestion. 00:52:34 yeah, i thought it was flat 00:52:40 but your suggestion isn't bad 00:53:05 a flat nerf to the mechanic, ofc 00:53:11 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:51 i'm sure someone would want to throw a random2 + sqrt|skill| or some shit 00:54:05 not a lot of sqrts around. 00:54:09 but the numbers can be tweaked 00:54:32 starting it around 25% and doing a curve where it ends at around 65-75% would be good though 00:55:18 i know there's not a lot of sqrts, i was just alluding to the fact that a lot of the formulae in crawl are super complicated if you want to crunch the numbers in your head 00:56:03 spellpower, for example 00:58:47 spellpower and melee damage are probably the worst offenders, not in that order 00:59:03 haha 00:59:07 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:59:09 could do, like, (21 + sk*2)% 00:59:10 yeah, melee damage is probably worse 00:59:40 that would probably be ok 00:59:43 or (25 + sk*3/2)% 00:59:49 just numbers 00:59:58 the second one is probably better 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:25 because the first one really makes the last few levels of lblades disproportionately better 01:00:36 i mean, the second formula does too, but less so 01:00:57 i dunno, i'll think on it for a bit 01:01:05 -!- Jafet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:01:34 i spent a number of years figuring out which curve real life data should be applied to 01:01:37 if it's just to make them not quite as good early on 01:01:50 logically i should be able to do the reverse 01:01:53 heh 01:01:57 it could be starting at 25% chance at 0 skill, ramping up to a full 50% when you're at mindelay 01:02:22 Shard1697: iirc elliptic had concerns about specifically scaling based on mindelay rather than skill, though i could be misremembering 01:02:29 PleasingFungus: aha! you missed something in the code review 01:02:33 since it's very bad for e.g. 3xsword 01:02:34 amalloy: impossible 01:02:48 i used a hanging { instead of putting it on a new line 01:02:48 lol 01:02:51 well, a player with a triple sword is probably gonna be shooting for that anyhow, right? 01:02:56 NOT A HANGING { 01:03:10 that's worse thang a dangling participle! 01:03:16 "thang" 01:03:23 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:03:47 means that it's even more of a strong requirement to get mindelay skill, sort of compounding the penalty for being below mindelay skill? idk 01:04:13 also, fwiw 01:04:18 03amalloy02 07* 0.19-a0-1058-g5566a1a: Fix my use of incorrect brace style 10(40 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5566a1ab4f47 01:04:22 yeah, i would prefer to just fit some curve on 0-27 01:04:26 the suggestions we were making were partially to buff it a little bit in the late game, since i feel like it's weaker there 01:04:34 preferably being close to the max around 18 or 20 01:04:36 amalloy: the millimarvin cost! 01:05:10 i mean, there are plenty of distributions that we can work with 01:05:18 %git HEAD~ --author=malloy 01:05:18 Could not find commit HEAD~ --author=malloy (git returned 128) 01:05:22 that are different from the bell curve at the tails 01:05:44 we can basically just figure out the one that we like and fit a formula do it 01:05:50 s/do/to 01:07:38 by which i mean figure out the distribution across 0-27 and figure out a formula that outputs the riposte % that we want 01:07:53 i'm actually maybe making this harder than it should be 01:07:55 -!- Nomi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:08:13 i just have way more training in stats than programming or actual applied math 01:08:27 so i tend to come at any problem in the "wrong" way 01:08:29 =P 01:11:36 stats seems like a reasonable angle to me 01:11:46 but i think the core problem here is about figuring out what our goal is 01:12:00 e.g. mindelay vs actual skill 01:17:29 yeah, that does complicate things 01:17:49 but you could use the same curve for each weapo 01:17:50 n 01:18:17 if you want the max at mindelay 01:18:54 by which i mean the same curve but scaled for each weapon 01:19:15 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:19:24 -!- sgun_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:19:29 i'm super late here but spell damage is a worse than melee damage because the formula is different for every spell 01:20:17 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:20:27 i wasn't going to die on that hill 01:21:43 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:22:58 why do demigods have -2 spellcasting and 0 stealth, but -1 everything else? 01:23:36 -!- Lasty_1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:23:46 because all spellcasting apts were decreased by 1 and all stealth apts were increased by 1 01:24:31 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:29:07 -!- Sonata has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:29:24 -!- crate_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:29:42 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:29:43 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:31:13 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 01:31:40 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:33:33 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:35:54 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:37:18 -!- Suga_H has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:39:32 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 01:45:26 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:47:07 do people train lblades skill above 14 :D 01:50:49 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:50 The build has errored. (master - 5566a1a #6250 : Alan Malloy): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/149087057 01:50:50 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:55:57 -!- whig has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:57:41 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:58:17 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:30 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:01:03 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:02:03 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:02:21 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 02:02:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:03:22 -!- vede has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:08:05 -!- Ipsum_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:09:20 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1058-g5566a1a (34) 02:15:53 -!- homsar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:18:04 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:21:21 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:21:45 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 02:28:59 -!- dolemite99 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:32:28 -!- VoxSomniator_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:41:50 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:23 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:47:06 FR: dragon taming 02:47:14 please 02:48:15 dragon's call 02:51:04 those are fake dragons though 02:51:09 they just dissapear 02:51:58 also btw does beem limit its output? 02:52:55 yes 02:52:58 just wondering cause mibe was complaining about veiwers spamming his channel with commands with lots of output XD 02:53:01 re limiting output 02:53:20 he can type !beem unsubscribe to prevent it joining 02:53:36 but yeah it has a limit of I think 8 commands within 5 seconds 02:53:40 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:53:47 he wanted to know if there was a way to make it so only he could do commands 02:53:53 sorry, 8 in 20 02:54:01 seems reasonable 02:54:02 so 8 commands per 20 seconds 02:54:11 and yeah no way to customize further, although that would be cool 02:54:34 ??beem 02:54:34 beem[1/4]: beem is a WebTiles chat bot that sends commands to the DCSS IRC knowledge bots. For details, see https://github.com/gammafunk/beem/blob/master/docs/commands.md ; if you see beem in chat, type the following to have it watch your games on that server: !beem subscribe 02:54:38 ??beem[2 02:54:38 beem[2/4]: Source https://github.com/gammafunk/beem ; (very simple) webtiles python library: https://github.com/gammafunk/webtiles 02:56:24 not too hard to add as a user-specific setting, but that's the first request I've heard for that 02:57:18 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:58:25 how does one !beem subscribe if beem isn't even in your chat 02:58:59 presently visit the most-spectated user 02:59:05 ah 02:59:08 which beem autowaches (if there are 3+ spectators) 02:59:13 so it does it for your user 02:59:16 I see 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:06 are you using !RELAY for sequell? 03:00:09 yeah 03:00:43 nice 03:00:45 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:03:47 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:09:25 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:09:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:10:32 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 03:11:49 !cmd !RELAY 03:11:50 No command !relay 03:11:54 ? 03:14:57 it's a fake command 03:15:03 kind of 03:15:09 !RELAY !lg 03:15:10 882. Kramin the Destroyer (L10 TeCj of Vehumet), slain by an unseen horror on D:10 on 2016-08-01 08:48:15, with 6255 points after 10727 turns and 0:37:09. 03:15:20 !RELAY !RELAY !lg 03:15:58 !RELAY -nick chequers !lg 03:15:59 1793. chequers the Shield-Bearer (L1 HuFi), quit the game on D:1 (ncdulo_lavacross) on 2016-08-01 04:32:39, with 0 points after 0 turns and 0:00:01. 03:16:40 !RELAY -prefix someidcode: !lg 03:16:41 someidcode:882. Kramin the Destroyer (L10 TeCj of Vehumet), slain by an unseen horror on D:10 on 2016-08-01 08:48:15, with 6255 points after 10727 turns and 0:37:09. 03:16:52 pretty useful 03:17:21 for relay bots at least 03:20:15 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:20:45 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1058-g5566a1a (34) 03:22:34 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:31:18 -!- Dingo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:33:29 -!- _dhm has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:34:53 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:44:25 I dreamt I was playing DCSS and had 100 AC and 100 EV somehow 03:45:06 and then died to a single enemy from full HP in about 2 turns 03:45:20 and then complained about on ##crawl-dev 03:45:47 Lightli: try wizmode. i had 10000 SH last time i loaded 03:46:00 your dreams can come true 03:46:23 I've broken 100 AC in trunk before once 03:46:32 but that was with the supercharge bug 03:46:39 !log . ac>100 03:46:40 1. 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12:42:54 %git 06893fddef040b6b7a881a0782fe5dd2c5ceb26e 12:42:54 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1055-g06893fd: Filter out conflicting books from xv 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 41+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/06893fddef04 12:43:13 %git 8e4a7f34bae0fceadce1fb70812e2ecef0d4b558 12:43:13 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1053-g8e4a7f3: Track seen spells for individual mons 10(3 days ago, 4 files, 28+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8e4a7f34bae0 12:43:13 oh, 06893fddef040b6b7a881a0782fe5dd2c5ceb26e 12:43:22 and that one i guess for context, yeah 12:43:23 yes, i just found it in git log 12:43:37 that's a feature i'm happy to see 12:55:34 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:56:45 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:58:43 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:04:40 -!- sysice has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:11:46 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:15:00 -!- Zekka has quit [Client Quit] 13:17:52 -!- Zekka has quit [Client Quit] 13:21:38 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1058-g5566a1a (34) 13:23:49 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1059-gd083972: Improve some god wrath handling 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d08397283f6e 13:23:49 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1060-g2d8f189: Adjust Jiyva wrath 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 47+ 42-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2d8f18954ee3 13:23:49 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1061-gfec9346: Don't make known traps trigger as if unknown when blinking 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fec9346ed260 13:23:49 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1062-g61d329a: Don't list stealth/MR in word form on @ and % 10(73 minutes ago, 3 files, 0+ 45-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/61d329afe07c 13:23:49 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1063-g1ce6cb9: Add a message to monster descriptions when its spellset has been filtered 10(71 minutes ago, 1 file, 23+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1ce6cb924d3d 13:27:20 -!- Zekka has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:29:34 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:30:36 -!- Zekka has quit [Client Quit] 13:35:23 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:31 MarvinPA: my vague feeling is that hexes should list what they are when monsters fail to cast them against you; they already do for wands. that being said, i'm sure there are other info leaks right now 13:37:31 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:38:09 hopefully not too many; i feel like the pan lords & random spellbook monsters mostly tend to stick to more 'vanilla' spells, rather than specialized stuff like awaken vines or w/e? 13:38:21 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:40:40 -!- demok has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:46:09 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:47:40 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:48:23 -!- demok has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:40 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:53:10 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:55:20 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55:32 -!- MadCoyote has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:56:19 -!- kreedzfreak_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:56:50 -!- Kurshu has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:04:56 -!- xormask has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:39 Has anyone considered using emscripten to make webtiles client side, and then sending state updates back to the server? I would think it could make webtiles a lot more responsive and reduce lag. 14:06:03 on the other hand, it would be absolutely trivial to cheat. 14:06:19 Yeah 14:06:24 Is that a big concern? 14:06:32 i think it would be a real blow to the community. 14:06:42 if there wasn't any sense of competition or shared constraints. 14:07:17 one of the big reasons to play online is so you can show off for other people, or compare yourself to them. 14:07:35 yeah I mean I was thinking about this problem. You could still have a copy running on the server 14:07:39 maybe a stripped down one? 14:07:45 that made sure everything was consistent 14:08:32 obviously that's starting to become a lot more work though 14:08:32 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:08:36 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:37 The build passed. (master - 1ce6cb9 #6251 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/149251822 14:08:37 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:08:55 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1063-g1ce6cb9 (34) 14:09:26 yeah. 14:11:22 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:11:45 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:12:37 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:17:12 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:17:50 fwiw anything that enabled cheating would destroy my interest in the game permanently. like PF said, I like striving for the challenges and seeing who else attained that (or not!). also in my experience, ever since the div fix back in September, I haven't really noticed any meaningful lag in webtiles compared to console play. 14:18:11 some of the servers are a little slow 14:18:12 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:18:26 I played on CSZO and now CBRO 14:18:29 I haven't tried the other servers 14:18:48 jorgrun lurches pretty bad sometimes, i suspect when it rebuilds 14:18:56 beartato has ups and downs 14:19:46 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:20:19 Brannock for me webtiles is substantially slower than playing on my machine 14:20:35 PleasingFungus: would a headless version of crawl improve performance significantly? 14:20:55 headless crawl can win a game in about 2 seconds, iirc 14:20:56 ie one where it doesn't need to do console output only update state and send notifications? 14:20:58 with a bot running it 14:21:01 ah 14:21:04 that might not be your question 14:21:20 i don't think console output is a significant drag on webtiles 14:21:47 well, honestly i lied, it's not even headless crawl, it's just local console crawl 14:22:14 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:22:14 I was thinking you could have a client side javascript copy and a headless version running on the server and you send all inputs to the server copy so the server is doing the exactly same thing the client is doing 14:22:22 and all notifications points etc are based on the server copy 14:22:40 what's a notification point. 14:23:01 sorry that should have been notifications, points (like game scores) 14:23:19 by notifications I mean X has reached Vaults:5 14:23:23 oh, milestones? 14:23:32 Sorry I didn't know the official term 14:23:43 you'd need to figure out a way to reconcile games that went out of sync. 14:24:07 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1064-geb5102e: Don't try to transform already-transformed players with Jiyva wrath 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eb5102e48588 14:24:19 actually this would be really hard, since i think we're quite bad with how we use the rng, so e.g. moving the cursor around can change rng state (maybe) 14:24:29 -!- bencryption_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 14:24:38 Ahh didn't realize that the rng considered things like that 14:24:44 in principle we have two rngs 14:24:48 in theory it doesn't, there are separate rngs for a bunch of things 14:24:54 yeah 14:24:57 one for cosmetic stuff like iood animations and such, but... 14:25:47 I think desync isn't hard to deal with since if input packets aren't acked by the server you can just tell the client to reload 14:26:02 but the rng thing seems quite hard 14:26:13 I just assumed that with consistent seeds and inputs it would all be fine 14:26:25 oh, you misunderstood me 14:26:38 by 'desync' i mean "game state falls out of sync", not "packet error" 14:26:51 but how would that happen without lost inputs? 14:27:24 differences in rng, differences in floating point operations, differences in game version between client and server, bugs 14:27:26 etc etc etc 14:27:44 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:28:19 ah yeah I wonder how emscripten handles floating point 14:29:37 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:58 uh oh, emscripten FAQ: "why do I get odd rounding errors when using float variables?" 14:34:03 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:04 lmao 14:34:18 we try to avoid floats but we still use some 14:34:51 bash-3.2$ git grep float | wc -l 14:34:53 1165 14:34:54 bash-3.2$ git grep int | wc -l 14:34:56 27006 14:35:13 of course that int includes "printf" so enh 14:35:23 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:25 oh, and those floats are mostly orient: float 14:35:27 hm 14:35:33 someone else who knows grep would have to do a proper query 14:36:03 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:36:33 well it looks like they have an option to emulate them correctly so probably not a big deal 14:36:47 I honestly don't know much about floating point discrepancies between implementations 14:38:47 Like if everything is IEEE compliant they still can produce different results...? 14:39:02 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:22 -!- Bammboo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:40:02 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:48 the ieee standard is pretty loose, from what i can tell 14:41:09 i'm not an expert myself but i would not rely on floating point operations having the same results on different machines. 14:41:19 I assume the rng uses floating point? 14:41:38 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:51 I believe it uses uints. 14:42:29 Yeah, unless we have two rng implementations around (I forget if we do) 14:45:08 the abyss does something super weird and maybe uses its own rng implementation? not sure 14:45:20 name generation used to have its own rng! 14:48:20 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:03 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:50:32 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:50:34 -!- xormask has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:51:41 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:53:36 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:57:20 -!- Wye has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:58:14 -!- xormask has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:01:24 name generation? 15:01:31 like for artifacts and panlords? 15:08:51 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1064-geb5102e (34) 15:13:55 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 15:13:59 -!- Cacophony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:15:11 and shops 15:18:49 it was great. let me find it 15:19:36 %git 3723dc303b7fa5ce8a5304496c230b70d9259591 15:19:36 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-646-g3723dc3: Remove the 17-year-old bespoke make_name() RNG 10(1 year, 4 months ago, 1 file, 19+ 49-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3723dc303b7f 15:19:43 ^ look at this... 15:24:37 -!- xormask has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:25:54 lol 15:25:56 nice 15:26:44 iirc the various multipliers are primes? i think someone had a theory about how they were chosen but i forget 15:26:53 that explains why random names are just no fun anymore =p 15:26:56 heh 15:26:58 noo 15:27:14 they look like primes 15:27:28 i mean, i'm too lazy to actually check that 15:27:29 but at first glance they appear to be 15:28:03 not the first primes, though 15:28:23 { 15:28:23 - // convolute & recurse 15:28:23 - seed_rng(seed); 15:28:23 - return make_name(random_int(), MNAME_JIYVA); 15:28:23 - } 15:28:26 heh 15:28:39 "convolute & recurse" 15:28:42 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:30:12 that was from a refactor i'd done shortly beforehand, iirc 15:31:21 yeah, that was in a do/while before 15:31:31 %git 8d9ebf6625fa8b727e0c9e060729fd3fc6a49d6c 15:31:31 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-168-g8d9ebf6: Rework make_name params 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 12 files, 62+ 52-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8d9ebf6625fa 15:31:47 heh 15:32:14 the "all_cap" param increased name length by 6, because scroll names are supposed to be longer. 15:32:53 "recuse [sic] instead of ploggifying", heh 15:35:00 lol 15:35:12 "ploggifying" is a good word 15:35:31 fr: Ploggify (L9 Hexes) 15:35:44 i will attempt to use it in any remotely valid context 15:35:52 -!- Zekka_ has quit [Client Quit] 15:36:00 "OH GOD YOU PLOGGED HIM!" 15:36:03 while active, all visible creatures have a spellpower-dependent chance of becoming Plog. 15:36:40 no fair making invisible creatures immune to ploggification! 15:37:03 oh, good point. all creatures in LOS 15:37:07 Something Plogs. 15:37:08 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 15:37:24 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:01 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:38:23 lol 15:39:05 Something wicked this way Plogs 15:39:54 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:17 -!- whog has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:31 something wicked this way whogs 15:41:49 -!- FunkyGnoll has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 15:43:21 !learn add dead_monster mgrd at (20,52) points at dead monster DEAD MONSTER 15:43:22 dead monster[11/11]: mgrd at (20,52) points at dead monster DEAD MONSTER 15:45:06 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:45:18 -!- grammu has quit [] 15:59:03 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:02 -!- Cacophony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:02:27 -!- Rast- has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 16:02:41 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 16:07:42 -!- flappity_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:09:21 PleasingFungus i will never fail to be excited at people knowing of the macbeth shit 16:09:40 -!- JChrist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:10:11 i didn't recall many Whogs in shakespeare. 16:10:16 hopefully whog isn't an obscure ethnic slurg 16:10:43 "wog" is an obscure ethnic slurg and someone once got mad at me for that, but only once 16:10:44 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:10:47 i wasn't thinking of it when i chose the name 16:11:36 whog is also the name of a radio station where i live but they pronounce it hog 16:11:43 so many options 16:12:03 -!- Zekka_ is now known as Zekka 16:12:54 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:16:22 -!- grammus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:23:19 -!- whug has joined ##crawl-dev 16:23:31 -!- whog has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:27:33 they go whole whog? 16:29:07 i assume so yes 16:29:29 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 16:34:12 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:35:16 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:36:14 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:42 -!- edsrzf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:50:45 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:55:12 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:55:47 -!- Prozacelf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:45 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 17:00:59 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 17:02:43 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:04:16 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:02 -!- xormask has joined ##crawl-dev 17:06:40 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:08:15 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 17:08:23 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 17:15:30 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 17:15:59 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 17:17:27 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:28 -!- Telnaior has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:24:29 -!- Telnaior_ is now known as Telnaior 17:25:20 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:28:21 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 17:31:17 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:31:34 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 17:34:04 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 17:34:36 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 17:39:22 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:39:57 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:44:09 -!- Zekka_ has quit [Client Quit] 17:44:20 -!- Zekka has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:44:48 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:50:16 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:59:46 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:41 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:01:51 -!- tksquared has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 18:05:58 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:07:18 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:13:02 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-1064-geb5102e (34) 18:21:45 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:21:57 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:22:07 -!- eb has quit [] 18:26:49 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:33:04 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:41:17 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:43:52 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:45:04 -!- _dhm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:45:39 -!- Luterac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:56:12 -!- homsar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:56:17 anyone want to do a dev dieselrobin game? 18:56:29 s/game/team/ i guess 18:57:54 ??dieselrobin 18:57:54 dieselrobin[1/6]: Signups Open! Rules & Info: http://kramell.mooo.com/dieselrobin/rules 18:57:57 ahh, right 18:59:37 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:26 i didn't play last season cause i was feeling kinda tired of crawl, but it's the kind of thing i'd enjoy 19:00:35 i miss csdc 19:03:28 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:04:04 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:13:34 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:19:10 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:59 -!- MIC132 has quit [Client Quit] 19:22:00 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:24:41 -!- Tungsten has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:24:56 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 19:24:57 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:25:12 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:03 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:30:58 amalloy: hrm, I should take a look 19:34:17 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 19:42:15 -!- Prozacelf has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC] 19:46:04 this strangelog entry looked familiar: https://twitter.com/TheStrangeLog/status/760531357860786176 19:48:03 -!- Vektorweg11 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:04 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:49 haha, nice job PleasingFungus 19:50:40 I got disco pan my last game, sadly had no reason to go inside since I had the demonic rune and was just looking for the named pan lords 19:51:55 excellent 19:52:14 i sent a submission to those guys a while back through twitter, something from the qud guys 19:52:18 but i don't think they ever posted it... 19:52:37 i should play that again 19:53:47 -!- djanatyn has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 19:54:35 same 19:59:46 -!- durval is now known as Vall 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:22 did you know that MPA and elliptic have worked on a fork of poschengband? 20:01:25 I learned this today 20:01:48 they are two-timing on us (triple-timing if you include sil!) 20:02:02 grim 20:02:37 -!- whig has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:03:04 amalloy: I'm probably not going to join in dieselrobin since it's not a very stream-friendly or gammafunk score page friendly format, but I'll deffo check out any vids you make of it 20:03:27 first time I've really looked at the rules, and it is a pretty neat competition 20:04:00 gammafunk: i substituted for jefus last season when he vanished, so there are some videos up if you're interested 20:04:40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgWtiOE1xVE&list=PLKDpSfFMS1VRqD4P_OoSVpIPlzc-URF37 20:04:50 amalloy: my last stream just magically got 12 views overnight, leading me to really wonder where it might have gotten linked or something 20:05:00 *stream VOD 20:05:11 I guess that's one nice thing about using youtube, I assume you can track views? 20:05:15 yeah 20:05:28 break down by traffic source, geography, stuff like that 20:06:04 twitch does have a nice social media feed type thing that can also post to twitter, but no tracking afaik 20:07:53 like on saturday my MuVM playlist got a bunch of views, and since it was exactly one view per episode i conclude someone binge-watched them 20:08:58 yeah, probably it was just a bunch of people who normally watched weren't around, and wanted to see the finale of that 15-rune char 20:09:19 but I'll never know if it was in fact the result of someone making fun of me on 4chan 20:09:53 binge-watching amalloy in my pajamas, eating a roll of raw cookie dough...my ideal evening 20:10:40 you want me in your pajamas? gross 20:12:19 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:48 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:16:28 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:19:07 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 20:20:34 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:21:08 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:21:47 -!- Kaishin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:24:26 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 20:24:57 Does anyone have any opinions on Sif and Veh getting more changes? 20:26:33 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:26:40 -!- MarvinPA has left ##crawl-dev 20:27:14 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:27:19 -!- Shard1697_ is now known as Shard1697 20:28:09 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:28:52 New branch created: thaw (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/thaw 20:28:52 03PleasingFungus02 07[thaw] * 0.19-a0-1058-ge219424: Explosive Thaw: L5 Fire/Ice 10(4 minutes ago, 6 files, 50+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e219424e2279 20:28:54 I think the only major issues with sif were channel (which has been addressed, but could always see further tweaks) and possibly the spell book/library system 20:29:04 I'm not aware of any issues for veh 20:29:32 people were complaining about being encouraged to reduce veh piety to slow down spell gifts until you could learn them? 20:29:49 yeah that's something you legit can do 20:30:06 although probably very few people bother 20:30:55 it is i, the ghost of the hypothetically optimal player. post "sleep tite mummy" or your best characters will suffer avoidable deaths 20:31:25 tbh it would be cool if veh had an ability like... "view memorizable spells" and all gifted spells stay under that forever 20:31:33 ok well, we know that you're actually donald trump, since we read that commit message just now 20:31:53 ??? 20:32:14 Shard1697: isn't that just "memorizeable spells stick around until you memorize them" but with a clunkier ui? 20:32:20 like, veh-memorizeable spells, i guess 20:34:22 sorta, I'm just thinking some people would be bothered by having all the spells under the normal M header all the time... but thinking about it a bit more that's probably not a concern, since if you're hitting M as veh worshipper there's a good chance you want one of them anyways 20:35:02 you could just add them to the end 20:35:07 that way they wouldn't be so clunky 20:35:36 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=20953&sid=974ac123d1b30427a359b621902a57f3 20:36:08 My ideas for Sif and Veh 20:36:20 Straightforward, simple, and they make a lot of sense so easy to understand. 20:37:04 -!- Jafet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:40:54 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:44:55 PleasingFungus: how about a spell that puts a line of water tiles between you and your target. Like a single target liquifaction 20:45:20 sounds like a drac breath 20:45:26 new water dracs, to hang out with bai 20:46:04 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:46:45 FR playable water nymphs 20:51:03 -!- qguv has quit [Quit: bye] 20:52:40 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:52:47 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 20:57:03 -!- fufumann has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:57:59 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:59:48 I had tossed around the idea of a god of water (not steam or freezing clouds) 20:59:58 just tossed around water tiles and you could do various shenanigans with them 20:59:59 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00:34 one of the things was bolt of water, which deals damage and spawns water tiles similar to how you describe 21:00:45 promote ilsiuw to the pantheon. we've got space on i 21:00:57 the big problem crawl has is not enough bolt damage effects, imo 21:00:59 :p 21:01:39 -!- xormask has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:01:53 ah, but does it have enough beem damage effects? 21:02:00 *beam, dammit 21:02:04 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:02:19 -!- xormask has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:32 beam is beem. 21:03:46 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:03:48 ??goodcode 21:03:49 goodcode[1/13]: beem.is_beam = false 21:06:20 03PleasingFungus02 07[thaw] * 0.19-a0-1059-g7962c8e: Disallow butchering forbidden corpses (Arrhythmia) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 26-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7962c8e525c1 21:06:26 fuck 21:06:48 that's what happens when you credit Arrhythmia 21:06:52 agreed 21:07:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1065-gdac414d: Disallow butchering forbidden corpses (Arrhythmia) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 26-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dac414d021f6 21:15:56 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:00 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:34 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:19:39 -!- Vall has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:21:42 effect idea: your spells (all attacks?) can't miss, but take significantly longer. (unrand? buff spell? potion?) 21:22:36 PleasingFungus: wearable amulet: Orb of Destruction 21:23:12 heh 21:23:27 "amulet of woe" :p 21:23:43 whoa... 21:28:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:32:51 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:32:54 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:42:08 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:43:05 MORE MAPS! 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10591 by Findleman 21:45:21 dang, chance% 21:47:08 -!- ByronJohnson is now known as bairyn 21:50:26 DEPTH: 1 21:50:43 imo, as the vault master, you must give helpful advice. 21:51:01 I will take a look at those 21:51:15 hah, chance 1.01% 21:51:54 vault master is a coveted title 21:52:09 oh I remember talking to this person I think 21:52:15 they asked me how to get into making vaults 21:52:42 -!- doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:52:48 I may not get to that this evening, but will deffo give some feedback by tomorrow 21:53:43 cool 21:54:04 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:54:05 The build passed. 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