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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:50:33 -!- FireSight has quit [] 02:51:34 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:38 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-706-g03de5d9 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:08 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:06:21 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:20:56 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:23:58 how is everyone 03:23:58 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 03:24:02 !messages 03:24:03 (1/1) johnstein said (11h 19m 42s ago): I took a stab at a Bound_soul icon, but it's not working. could you help me understand how it's supposed to work? https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/301 03:24:09 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-706-g03de5d9 (34) 03:24:45 guess that got fixed 03:25:14 johnstein: is it working now? if not i can help 03:26:30 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:27:47 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:28:40 -!- VoxSomniator_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:37:35 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:40:04 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:51:41 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:54:02 -!- NotKat has quit [Client Quit] 03:57:43 hm, i think when you enter a portal using < you get 'welcome back to ...' which is a bug 03:57:44 chequers: You have 1 message. 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(Depths:4) 13:02:52 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 13:03:04 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:03:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:07:30 !crash 13:07:36 14008. Krusk, XL27 MiMo, T:946110 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Krusk/crash-Krusk-20160619-170252.txt 13:07:51 it's 0.17 13:07:52 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:08:21 idk, maybe we should fix it so he stops spamming us with crash logs for several days straight 13:08:28 and i guess maybe cheating with intentional crashes? 13:08:31 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-710-g5577c47 (34) 13:10:03 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:10:17 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 13:11:37 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I assume that's intended to give a 9/100 chance of teleporting in a 9-aut turn? 13:11:57 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 13:12:38 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 13:14:03 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: or, rather, a 9/100 chance of considering a teleport 13:14:12 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 13:14:42 hrm 13:14:49 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 13:14:57 you're right, i got the logic backwards, didn't I? 13:15:01 hm 13:15:06 or, no, 13:15:15 <|amethyst> no, it's close 13:15:32 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 13:17:32 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 13:19:56 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 13:22:09 Fedhas pacifies death cobs? Has that always been true? 13:22:53 haha 13:22:56 <|amethyst> no; they only became plants recently (with multi-holiness) 13:24:29 I like how curse toes summon fungi that immediately change allegiance 13:28:17 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-710-g5577c47 (34) 13:29:03 -!- andre_1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:29:12 -!- arianwen has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:31:35 -!- Amphouse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:32:29 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-711-ge872ae3: Simplify (and improve accuracy of a chance). 10(32 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e872ae35e839 13:33:54 -!- sooheon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38:30 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:38:58 -!- andre_1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:41:14 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:42:57 ??bound soul 13:42:57 I don't have a page labeled bound_soul in my learndb. 13:45:14 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:47:08 -!- doy has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 14:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02:50 !learn add bound_soul This monster has been ensorcelled by a {necromancer} and will turn into a hostile spectre on death. 14:02:51 bound soul[1/1]: This monster has been ensorcelled by a {necromancer} and will turn into a hostile spectre on death. 14:05:01 <|amethyst> hm 14:05:22 <|amethyst> maybe "spawn" rather than "turn into" now that you can get two spectrals out of the same monster? 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16:10:03 (is there somewhere I can read up on it?) 16:11:11 <|amethyst> johnstein: the lab builder is implemented in C++ instead of Lua 16:11:31 ah ok 16:11:36 <|amethyst> !source _builder_by_type 16:11:36 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc#l88 16:11:41 <|amethyst> !source dgn_build_labyrinth_level 16:11:41 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dgn-labyrinth.cc#l485 16:12:03 -!- Crauler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:14:20 <|amethyst> johnstein: not sure why it's pure C++, unlike layout_shoals, which has a Lua wrapper around the C++ 16:14:38 <|amethyst> !source layout_shoals 16:14:38 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/layout_cc.des#l68 16:14:43 <|amethyst> !source dgn_layout_shoals 16:14:45 Can't find dgn_layout_shoals. 16:15:25 <|amethyst> !source l_dgnbld.cc:2275 16:15:25 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/l_dgnbld.cc#l2275 16:15:29 is there a way for wizmode to force the entire map to be visible? &{ is magic mapping, but I still can't see things happening outside of LoS. 16:15:29 <|amethyst> !source dgn_build_shoals_level 16:15:30 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dgn-shoals.cc#l651 16:16:04 i.e. if I want to go to a lab and watch the shifting happening in real time? 16:16:24 <|amethyst> I don't think so 16:16:38 <|amethyst> there's &V for x-ray vision, but that's still limited to LOS radius 16:16:53 hm. actually it looks like if I use &{ and it asks me if i want to make the level mappable, it might turn off the dynamic shifting? 16:17:00 my guess would be that the lab builder predates lua 16:17:00 does that sound possible? 16:17:19 I did a bunch of &{&{&{ and the map didn't change at all after like 20 16:17:30 oh nm 16:17:32 it's based on time 16:17:33 <|amethyst> are you spending turns in betwee? :) 16:17:35 ??doh 16:17:35 |amethyst[1/24]: <|amethyst> doh 16:17:40 <|amethyst> s/wee/ween/ 16:18:49 <|amethyst> hmm 16:19:53 <|amethyst> also, 20 turns is very short 16:21:06 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:21:13 <|amethyst> empirically, it seems to shift once every approx. 120 - 260 turns 16:22:00 <|amethyst> ah, between 1000 and 3000 aut according to 16:22:04 <|amethyst> !source timed_effects 16:22:04 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/timed_effects.cc#l956 16:22:47 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:25:45 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:37 -!- Schmenge has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:30:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 16:31:33 -!- halv has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:32:39 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:32:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:34:27 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:35:56 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:47:18 -!- Demise_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:48:39 |amethyst, kinda looks like your 120-260 is more in-line with what I'm seeing in-game: http://i.imgur.com/xNBwmfb.gif 16:49:15 that's basically 50 turns per second (though about halfway through it speeds up since I think I was getting impatient) 16:50:25 ??lab[2 16:50:26 labyrinth[2/7]: "You enter a dark and foreboding labyrinth." You are now in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. The labyrinth shifts and deforms out of sight. From rock, head for stone, and then metal to find the exit vault (a minotaur, loot, and escape hatch). The labyrinth is mapped, but rots at a swift rate. 16:51:44 -!- Kenran has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:52:40 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:53:45 Looks like johnstein is lost in labyrinth code because he's... 16:53:46 !glasses 16:53:47 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 16:53:51 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:53:52 ...starved for good ideas. 16:53:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 16:54:15 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:55:48 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:56:43 gammafunk, was just curious how layouts worked for labs 16:57:00 and looks like mapstat says no layouts are used. sounded mysterious 16:57:14 Don't make me employ another pun, I'll do it so help me Trog 16:58:25 I spent hours yesterday wrestling with ssl and freenode, and discovered some weird problems with asyncio and ssl 16:58:41 These don't seem to happen for its websockets module, but I don't really know how to diagnose them further 16:59:09 s/its[^,]+,/the websockets module, which uses asyncio,/ 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:45 thankfully it looks easy to extend the irc module I'm using to use ssl sockets, and I can actually implement sasl myself, since it's a very simple protocol 17:01:28 I'll use the asyncirc module's implementation as a reference, but will sadly have to throw out the code I change to port to that module, since it just seems to mysteriously drop the ssl connection after some data is received, at random 17:01:56 it gets most of the way through freenodes MOTD and then the connection closes with an exception during the ssl read 17:02:33 If I do things the usual blocking way with an ssl-based socket, it gets through the MOTD just fine, so it seems like it's something about how asyncio is handling the socket 17:03:10 -!- home_ is now known as home 17:03:12 but again this isn't a problem when using websockets + https, so I don't know why the irc transport is special; it might be a bug in ascyncirc's handling somehow 17:03:22 even though that works perfectly fine for non-ssl irc sockets 17:05:28 -!- sooheon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05:31 -!- sooheon_ has quit [Client Quit] 17:05:35 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:05:47 -!- sooheon has quit [Client Quit] 17:08:03 -!- sooheon has quit [Client Quit] 17:08:14 -!- Demise_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:11 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:11:11 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:11:36 -!- andre_1 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:16:11 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 17:20:18 -!- Celsitudo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:20:49 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:21:30 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:40 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:24:11 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:40 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:26:34 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:29:22 -!- koboldina_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:57 -!- beaky1 is now known as beaky 17:31:06 -!- wheals__ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:31:22 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:31:43 -!- wheals__ has quit [Client Quit] 17:32:04 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:48 -!- Zymurgist has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:38:22 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:51 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:44:47 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:47:01 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:15 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:54:20 -!- miek_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:54:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:45 -!- miek_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:01:11 -!- sneakyness has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:01:43 !messages 18:01:43 No messages for TZer0. 18:03:35 -!- trckry has quit [] 18:04:10 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 18:04:33 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 18:04:43 http://i.imgur.com/HvN8gJ6.png anguish 18:05:05 -!- regret-index has left ##crawl-dev 18:05:45 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:06:16 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 18:06:32 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:18 -!- Tungsten has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:08:30 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 18:12:36 -!- stev_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:13:51 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:15:01 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-713-g934ebc7 (34) 18:18:30 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:35:03 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:35:32 -!- home has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:46:39 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:52:51 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:58:13 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:18 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:59:19 -!- removeelyvilon_ has quit [Client Quit] 18:59:43 -!- removeelyvilon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:00:22 hello Sir, is spooky ghosto from new necromancer super death channel 19:00:25 a summoned creature 19:01:46 -!- Celsitudo has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:03:35 yes 19:04:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:05:34 because it lacks the purple dot and it cannot be abjured 19:06:45 !tell rax_ I've talked with the person who runs the tstbtto bot (pipel on IRC) and he says he will be more careful running it in the future (and I am quite sure breaking CAO wasn't intentional) - up to you whether you want to unban the account of course though (he's currently running the bot on a different server instead) 19:06:45 elliptic: OK, I'll let rax_ know. 19:07:52 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:13:42 yes, on Xtahua 19:17:42 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:20:12 -!- pipel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:20:31 -!- trckry has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:22:47 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:23:12 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:34 -!- sooheon_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26:16 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:26:22 -!- removeelyvilon_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:26:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 19:28:39 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:30:13 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:32:26 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:32:34 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:34:24 -!- hellmonk_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:37:46 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:52:11 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:32 -!- Rast has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:55:57 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 19:59:33 -!- Rast- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:59:55 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:02:12 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:05:47 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:14:23 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:35:16 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:35:34 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 20:38:11 |amethyst: fighting the good fight with e872ae3 20:38:42 <|amethyst> the plot of the relative error is really interesting 20:39:17 sorry i uh have to go 20:39:23 <|amethyst> heh 20:40:30 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:41:52 !seen dpeg 20:41:52 I last saw dpeg at Fri Jun 10 11:49:05 2016 UTC (1w 2d 12h 52m 47s ago) saying 'Keskitalo: oh, hi!' on ##crawl-dev. 20:42:05 !tell dpeg should bribe branch continue to work on the orb run? 20:42:06 chequers: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 20:44:54 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:45:48 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:58:14 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:58:21 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:48 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 21:04:00 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:05:03 -!- Rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:20 -!- Rast- has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:13:48 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:15:37 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:42 -!- Rast-- has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:16:24 -!- FitzyFitz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:20:02 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:28:00 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:51 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:32:04 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:32:48 -!- somebody has joined ##crawl-dev 21:34:38 Meliai are great, but... 21:34:40 FR:Please bring moths of suppression back. 21:34:45 -!- somebody has left ##crawl-dev 21:35:42 -!- destroythecore_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:37:33 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:51 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:39:32 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:41:37 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 21:46:59 -!- fufumann has quit [Quit: und weg...] 21:49:33 -!- eb_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:49:33 -!- trckry has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:49:33 -!- wheals_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:54:55 -!- Tiktailk has quit [Changing host] 21:54:57 -!- Tiktailk is now known as Tiktalik 21:56:40 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:57:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:59:27 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:00 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:01:37 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:41 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 22:08:40 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:15:41 -!- andre_1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:22:32 -!- jetnerd_ is now known as jetnerd 22:37:59 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:44:03 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:52:56 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 22:54:02 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:55:09 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:57:33 I should make lua for the request in https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=20373 22:57:40 although this is something we could maybe just put in-game 22:58:35 -!- koboldina_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:58:36 I guess something like "score if you quit now: N ; score if you ascend with the orb now: M". The former we don't really need to do 22:59:13 -!- koboldina has joined ##crawl-dev 22:59:40 hey guys 22:59:45 look at this http://imgur.com/fBSRnQl 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:09 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 23:01:33 the gastronok is adorable 23:02:42 well that's not my art, it's baconkid's creative commons splash screen, but you probably know that 23:02:44 I think he looks great on mint 23:02:48 ya 23:02:54 it's a good choice for a shirt 23:03:00 he's facing the opposite way that I intended but 23:03:04 I don't think anybody is going to care :P 23:03:43 koboldina: if someone asks for the kiku art on a t-shirt, I want you to report that person to the police 23:04:33 no way they could be sane enough to live in society 23:04:35 what does kiku look like? 23:04:36 can I take their money first gammafunk 23:04:40 yes 23:04:43 ok sure 23:04:48 I'll report them to the police 23:04:53 police report: this rad person gave me money for a shirt 23:05:05 !source title_psiweapon_kiku.png 23:05:06 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/tiles/title_psiweapon_kiku.png 23:05:13 beware that link! 23:05:43 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 23:05:56 I'm going to buy a witnesstheabsurd tank top some time and she's much worse 23:05:57 but seriously it's cool when people do renditions of the gods that has something cute/original 23:05:58 fuck the police 23:06:00 -!- regret-index has left ##crawl-dev 23:06:31 ...alright 23:06:34 gammafunk: exact score isn't currently information available to the player because it depends on xp (not that I really care about that info leak, but I'm also not sure that telling people their score is a good idea anyway) 23:06:51 elliptic: well, my thought was to simply use the XL + % to next xl 23:07:12 I take your point, however if you're tracking score it's pretty nice to just see a potential score value 23:07:34 again I can just do this as a lua thing that people could use if they want, doesn't have to go in crawl proper 23:08:14 if you do use XL + % next xl you have t account for the exp aptitude, I think, but then it's fairly accurate and there's no info leak at all 23:08:52 I guess more to the point, if it were done in clua I don't have the player's true XP available, so that's what I'll have to do, but it's not very complicated 23:09:15 gammafunk: yes it would be pretty close and you could certainly do it in lua 23:09:32 who is this for anyway? hardcore speedrunners/highscore hunters? 23:09:51 see the link above to a tavern post, but there's not much further info 23:09:56 I assume a speedrunner of some kind 23:10:07 !lg demiskeleton 23:10:08 816. demiskeleton the Cleaver (L10 HOGl of Beogh), mangled by Erolcha (a +0 giant spiked club) on D:9 on 2016-05-15 20:51:22, with 4542 points after 8231 turns and 0:13:20. 23:10:12 it seems like a very spedrunner thing 23:10:13 !hs demiskeleton 23:10:14 816. demiskeleton the Orcish Barricade (L27 HOFi of Beogh), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-05-14 00:15:36, with 1950329 points after 55791 turns and 3:56:56. 23:10:15 not that it's bad 23:10:17 mainly I just don't think that we should be emphasizing score for most players, the game already provides lots of markers to use to compare your games with each other and see your progress 23:10:19 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:10:19 yes it's really only useful for speedruns 23:10:21 e.g. runecount 23:10:22 just that i agree it's probably a luaish thing 23:10:50 or XL 23:11:12 I'm trying to spin this into an argument for aut based scoring 23:11:24 but I can't, so in conclusion: let's do aut based scoring 23:11:37 lol 23:11:41 IMO remove haste spell first (for unrelated reasons) 23:11:44 in which gammafunk preaches to the choir 23:12:28 I wouldn't be super sad to see haste go. I most love using it on speedruns anyhow, only because it's such a nice power-level and safety increase 23:12:55 *haste the spell; I suppose we could remove both the spell and the stick if we wanted 23:13:25 there was some vague idea that I sort of liked to remove haste spell and haste wand and replace them with some sort of innate ability with a very long XL-based timeout 23:13:32 Well, movement speed is powerful, attack speed is powerful, and evocation/spellcasting speed is powerful, maybe they shouldn't all of those effects shouldn't be in one ability? 23:13:33 oh right 23:13:41 it's a very elegant effect 23:13:53 i can see an argument that it should be restricted to gods or other contexts 23:14:05 or constrained in some other way 23:14:23 as long as crawl has something like aut, something like haste as an effect should probably exist in some form 23:14:33 I think it is a reasonable effect when limited 23:14:33 e.g. on potions 23:16:04 if you removed haste spell/wands, i expect you'd also remove the contam element 23:16:47 I think you could simply leave that, perhaps if for no other reason it lets contam be relevant 23:16:52 and you get the haste/invis interactions 23:17:23 I guess haste/invis/miscast interactions, but for people not using a lot of spells they'd maybe only see the first two 23:17:36 I think that if haste was just on potions (or other limited quantity sources) then I wouldn't really care whether it gave contam 23:17:52 it seems unnecessary if it's just on potions, yeah. vestigial 23:17:52 hrm, so leave it on invis because we have invis the spell? 23:17:58 as gammafunk says it would still be relevant in a few cases, but I think it isn't necessary 23:18:02 and I guess evocable invis 23:18:06 (for now) 23:18:35 so yeah it's probably not a big deal either way; I worry that the haste + long xp timer thing is just basically equivalent to "find more haste pots" 23:18:41 well I don't think you can really remove contam from invis while the spell exists 23:19:16 gammafunk: yeah, simply replacing the wand+spell with more potions is possible too 23:19:18 -!- Amphouse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:19:24 the mummy lobby would complain 23:19:29 hah 23:19:45 we remove the heal wounds wand next... 23:22:55 for the record, i'm not at all excited about removing haste spell, but w/e 23:23:29 the difference between wand of heal wounds and wand of hasting in my mind is that you usually decide whether or not to haste in a fight at the beginning of the fight and it just uses one charge 23:24:05 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:24:20 whereas with heal wounds you don't know how much you will want in a fight, could be anywhere from 0-10 generally (most often 0) 23:25:11 so it is much easier to plan out your hasting charges once you get a wand and just say "I can use this for 20-40 fights this game" and do so 23:25:45 well, what about the fact that a stack of hw potions gives you as much as you could want for any single fight, so putting mummies or people with -Potion aside, the wand is kind of just redundant with the potion? 23:25:50 but with heal wounds you still have to decide when things are bad enough to use it 23:25:51 yeah 23:25:53 hey gammafunk question 23:26:07 http://arts.crawl.develz.org/ is everything on this page creative commons 23:26:11 i kind of think that wands of haste/hw/tele are pretty redundant these days 23:26:19 koboldina: nice 23:26:20 gammafunk: a wand dramatically increases the amount of healing available in the game 23:26:23 they were useful back in the day when item destruction was a thing 23:26:31 yes it does do that, that's the primary difference in my mind 23:26:39 that and mummies 23:26:49 koboldina: are you doing them on nice tees? 23:26:54 yes 23:26:54 you find it, you just effectively found like 20 hw pots or w/e 23:26:59 depending on average ?recharge avail 23:27:03 koboldina: got a size chart? 23:27:03 http://imgur.com/fBSRnQl see for yourself chequers :) 23:27:16 koboldina: I think it is, there's the tiles project 23:27:18 ??tiles 23:27:19 tiles[1/16]: Blasphemy! Tiles do not exist! 23:27:22 dengit 23:27:23 ??rltiles 23:27:24 rltiles[1/1]: Current repository of crawl tile artwork licensed under CC0: https://github.com/crawl/tiles ; The original rltiles public domain tileset: http://rltiles.sourceforge.net/ 23:27:24 well I can't see if the tee has side seams and nice sticking/fabrice from that :P 23:27:25 gammafunk: the point is that getting access to a bunch of heal wounds potions/charges changes your behavior in a much more interesting way than finding more haste 23:27:31 no but I can whip one up for you if you like, chequers 23:27:53 you mean like all the dimensions right? 23:27:54 for each size 23:28:00 chest, neck, etc? 23:28:14 elliptic: Yeah I suppose it does, now you can handle situations that will require say, 6 hw, which you probably couldn't before, and there's not really an equivalence with haste 23:28:24 elliptic: however hasting allies is still a thing 23:28:25 yeah! that'd be ace! Probably just the M & L sizes cos I tend to fit in between for most brands 23:28:51 also as I mentioned here https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/4owp9r/dcss_shirts_now_available/ if you are a dcss game dev or web admin you get a discount so mention that in your message if you are 23:28:52 I still need to like 23:28:54 gammafunk: do people actually haste allies with the wand much? I guess with a single strong ally that is probably reasonable 23:28:57 find some way to verify this tho :P 23:29:03 but just "now you can haste every fight" is not really a good design situation, like you point out 23:29:20 I just know minqmay will request 5000 naked elf shirts and claim he's a dev 23:29:32 is that... PleasingFungus as model???? 23:29:40 no it's a friend of mine who I bribed with cookies 23:29:45 elliptic: no not a lot, I feel it's basically just a power-level increase in general since now you can haste every fight; but hasting allies is powerful (and maybe tedious) 23:30:24 btw why do you have to make up the size chart? it's not just an off the shelf tee? 23:30:38 I don't know if there's some kind of "haste ally" thing we could have in limited quantities that would recreate that use of haste the spell 23:30:39 well 23:30:43 I might be able to find it on my wholesaler site 23:30:47 doesn't sound that exciting 23:31:00 well what do you find exciting about haste the spell? 23:31:03 haste ally spell 23:31:19 hey! yes, it is in fact on the wholesaler site 23:31:21 thanks chequers 23:31:23 i like the idea of getting a nice result from high charms investment 23:31:32 I will paste this into the descriptions on the etsy listings at some point tonight 23:31:33 :) 23:31:45 right now the reason to not use it in every fight is that resting off contam is boring 23:31:51 anyway I don't think wand of heal wounds is amazing design either (and as I've said before I think DD would be salvageable without it - their wand recharging ability could be replaced by a healing ability that has a 20% chance of rotting 1 MP) 23:32:00 i've wondered for a while if there's a better way 23:32:39 well, I personally don't have an vehement dislike of haste; maybe with some tweaking it could be a lot better as a design 23:32:56 PleasingFungus: yeah, the "rest off contam" thing is one thing I dislike about it too... whenever I have the spell I feel like I should be using it a lot more than I do because I don't feel like bothering to rest off contam 23:33:10 elliptic: that sounds like a nice direction for DD 23:33:33 a version of crawl that had a real clock would not have this exact problem, since 'resting off contam' would be an actual tradeoff 23:33:41 but that's a big ask for a single spell 23:33:52 real clocks are hard to make 23:33:56 I still like the idea of DD's recharging ability being replaced with an ability to create heal wounds potions. 23:33:59 well we build an ntp server into crawl 23:34:04 atomic resolution 23:34:15 not even chequers could hack it 23:34:41 dang 23:34:52 koboldina: sorry, I didn't follow up, but did you see this link: https://github.com/crawl/tiles 23:34:59 Siegurt: would it give you a random # of potions equiv to current recharge count? 23:35:09 you siphon healing essence from your bloodstream. 23:35:12 btw I don't think a charm/summ "haste ally" spell would be unreasonable to have if we removed haste spell 23:35:18 Roughly, yes 23:35:23 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:35:42 koboldina: I guess those images aren't included in that repo, probably since it's meant to be generic tile art, and I guess splash images wouldn't be that 23:36:23 (At one point I'd suggested it create potions of ambrosia instead, and call it 'brew ambrosia' but the general feedback was that that would be too awkward) 23:36:23 koboldina: oh, I see baconkid on the list of artists that signed their work as CC0 23:36:24 Siegurt: that's an option too but I think I prefer just having the ability do the healing itself since that seems simpler 23:37:36 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:37:37 Yeah, it does reduce the flexibility of the current DD ability (It's rare, but I do use recharge to recharge things other than my /HW as a DD) 23:37:46 gammafunk: what do i currently hack about clocks 23:37:54 Which you could interpret as a good or bad thing. 23:37:56 nothing since I've secured them all 23:38:00 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:38:04 yes true 23:38:26 i have a vague feeling that the feeling of randomness from direct healing would be worse 23:38:53 i feel like 'oh, i rolled badly and got mp-rotted' is worse than 'oh, i rolled badly and didn't get many !hw'. idk tho 23:39:12 PleasingFungus: possibly, yes 23:40:18 I've never really liked the "oh I forgot to recharge my wand after the last battle dropped it low on charges" part of DD though 23:40:18 @??adder 23:40:18 adder (09S) | Spd: 13 (swim: 60%) | HD: 2 | HP: 9-13 | AC/EV: 1/15 | Dam: 508(poison:4-8) | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(10), 12drown | XP: 13 | Sz: little | Int: animal. 23:40:20 @??ogre 23:40:20 ogre (07O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 23-32 | AC/EV: 1/6 | Dam: 17 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 119 | Sz: Large | Int: human. 23:41:18 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:41:55 it feels sort of like resting and one of the nice things about DD is that you aren't supposed to have to do much of that :P 23:42:46 heh 23:43:12 I guess another option if the randomness is a problem is that we could just make the ability cost 0.2 MP (or whatever amount) 23:43:35 so if your skills and XL and such were fixed, your MP would drop every 5 uses exactly 23:45:10 (in other words, take the fractional MP given by the MP formula and reduce that by 0.2*(number of times you've used this ability) before rounding down 23:45:12 ) 23:46:02 sure 23:46:13 would need good messaging to make it clear what's going on 23:47:17 iirc I once saw someone use up all their MP on the current DD ability before realizing that it cost max MP and not just current MP 23:49:47 lmao 23:51:22 -!- timbabwe_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:51:56 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 23:52:04 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Awf3vAjCzz2STjA4hlV9sYrS0zZXaotu5_mPtDlkvo0/edit?usp=sharing pleh. 23:52:07 hey 23:52:08 before you vanish 23:52:12 did you see that comment from "someone" 23:52:16 .window close 23:52:20 farewell 23:53:01 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 23:53:02 huh, only one of my slime temples placed at all? 23:53:06 interesting 23:53:13 oh 23:53:18 no the other one is 'slimified', not 'slime 23:53:21 (my plans are on WIP_2) 23:53:33 wow, some color choices 23:54:09 I think I left it out of my notes, but I still like the idea of simplified suppression as "lock out anything using evocations or non-innate resistances" 23:54:48 unless it can be made into some kind of pan / holy enemy gimmick I'm not greatly pushing for that mess to exist again before I'm done 23:54:56 a reasonably confined scope would be key if you wanted to bring it back, yeah 23:55:53 (also, I can't figure out why the proportions for my planned functionized weights on that spreadsheet are all off) 23:57:37 lol, Grunt's tile listing in that repo is (sgrunt hypergrunt deathgrunt Steve Melenchuk) 23:57:52 because I think the guy putting that together put my joking response seriously 23:57:59 s/put/took/ 23:58:17 lol