00:00:00 -!- Bcadren_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:09 <|amethyst> /chroot/var/mail needs to be owned by the crawl user and group, with mode 2775 00:00:16 ah 00:00:26 <|amethyst> probably the 2 (setgid) isn't actually important? 00:00:55 ZiBuDo: can you check the permission/ownership on DGL/var/mail ? 00:01:00 yea in a sec 00:01:01 I don't know the full path 00:01:04 <|amethyst> hm 00:01:09 <|amethyst> on CAO it's just 755 00:01:17 ah, so I see it in the instructions 00:01:35 <|amethyst> so maybe just make sure it is owned by the user that runs crawl 00:01:43 interesting, does it actually write things to a mail spool? 00:02:00 <|amethyst> not really 00:02:09 well isnt crawl the base user that runs crawl? 00:02:27 PleasingFungus: oh, i guess they just killed the salamanders fast enough that i didn't really notice 00:02:37 yeah, ti's the same user 00:02:39 <|amethyst> ZiBuDo: probably, but that can be changed in your config 00:02:45 mhm 00:02:46 <|amethyst> on CAO it's 'games' 00:02:47 but it's in the chroot 00:03:21 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it doesn't use RFC 2822 or anything like that 00:04:00 this is so much unix I'm growing a greybeard right now 00:04:16 How To Grow Your Own Greybeard 00:04:33 Thanks for looking into this, guys 00:04:33 spoilers: yiuf is a unix admin 00:04:46 I know console cjr players are a tiny minority but I appreciate it! 00:04:55 n1: we're the only good thing on that server 00:05:03 it's probably me, my alt, gammafunk 00:05:07 and that's it 00:05:15 no there are a few others 00:05:18 and wheals 00:05:19 !lg cjr !tiles s=name 00:05:20 No games for cjr (!tiles). 00:05:24 !lg * cjr !tiles s=name 00:05:25 242 games for * (cjr !tiles): 105x gammafunk, 43x wheals, 36x Barfbag, 14x n1000, 10x EriktheRed, 7x Teryn, 6x nikheizen, 4x glaas, 3x neil, 2x beem, 2x Sprort, Ouro130Ros, itaibn, monkeytor, mspang, Gramm, n1000MPH, qwqw, Jaeger, raskol, Toenail 00:05:36 I mean, you know of the great Barfbag, I hope 00:05:42 of course 00:06:09 wait isn't jaeger that old-old-school speedrunner 00:06:22 !lg jaeger 1 x=cv 00:06:22 !gamesby jaeger 00:06:23 jaeger has played 2455 games, between 2007-10-05 17:21:36 and 2016-06-02 18:58:32, won 46 (1.9%), high score 14637738, total score 153781923, total turns 20746555, play-time/day 0:21:01, total time 46d+4:34:34. 00:06:23 1/2455. [cv=0.2] Jaeger the Miscreant (L1 SpSt), quit the game on D:1 on 2007-10-05 17:22:31, with 14 points after 13 turns and 0:00:27. 00:06:25 yes if it is the same person 00:06:28 wow, 0.2 00:06:30 not a rare name 00:06:37 gammafunk: i've changed the mail dir in /var/mail in the chroot dir to be 775 and owned by crawl, could you try sending the thingy again 00:06:41 !lg jaeger cjr 00:06:42 sure 00:06:42 1. Jaeger the Conjurer (L5 DrCj), blasted by an orc priest (nerve-wracking pain) on D:3 on 2016-06-02 18:58:32, with 140 points after 3480 turns and 0:08:15. 00:06:44 !lg jaeger s=src,cv 00:06:45 2455 games for jaeger: 2340x cao (1030x 0.7, 518x 0.5, 347x 0.6, 288x 0.4, 24x 0.18-a, 21x 0.17-a, 19x 0.9, 17x 0.10, 17x 0.13-a, 12x 0.16-a, 11x 0.17, 10x 0.14, 10x 0.14-a, 5x 0.9-a, 3x 0.8, 3x 0.3, 2x 0.16, 0.11, 0.2, 0.15-a), 63x cdo (43x 0.8-a, 12x 0.8, 3x 0.11-a, 2x 0.6-a, 0.7-a, 0.4, 0.10-a), 51x cszo (38x 0.12-a, 13x 0.11), cjr (0.19-a) 00:06:46 hm 00:06:59 _Your messages: gammafunk: hi gorgeous! 00:07:02 huge success! 00:07:13 I guess CAO jaeger did play fairly recently so it might be the same 00:07:24 ZiBuDo: thanks for fixing it 00:07:29 gammafunk: nice 00:07:35 now wheals and I will have plenty of good conversations 00:07:38 thanks zibudo! 00:07:46 but the footv is fine too? 00:07:53 yep 00:08:02 !nick slyshy 00:08:03 Mapping slyshy => sly shy slyshy jaeger hyperjaeger 00:08:05 alright ill work on the reverse thing when i get a chance and let you guys know what it works 00:08:11 when* 00:08:33 !hs jaeger 00:08:34 2455. Jaeger the Fencer (L24 DgFE), escaped with the Orb and 14 runes on 2010-12-14 04:26:36, with 14637738 points after 90684 turns and 7:35:23. 00:08:46 !lg jaeger win min=turn 00:08:46 !lg jaeger won min=dur 00:08:47 46. Jaeger the Bewitcher (L14 SpEn), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-29 03:40:24, with 3366558 points after 18688 turns and 2:46:56. 00:08:47 46. Jaeger the Bewitcher (L14 SpEn), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-29 03:40:24, with 3366558 points after 18688 turns and 2:46:56. 00:08:54 quite nice 00:09:03 !lg jaeger won 00:09:04 46. Jaeger the Conqueror (L27 GrMo of Okawaru), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2016-01-28 22:24:31, with 13084982 points after 123469 turns and 9:03:56. 00:09:08 hm 00:09:19 !lg jaeger won min=dur x=src 00:09:20 46. [src=cao] Jaeger the Bewitcher (L14 SpEn), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-29 03:40:24, with 3366558 points after 18688 turns and 2:46:56. 00:09:21 oh man, 123469 turns 00:09:25 !lg jaeger won x=src 00:09:26 46. [src=cao] Jaeger the Conqueror (L27 GrMo of Okawaru), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2016-01-28 22:24:31, with 13084982 points after 123469 turns and 9:03:56. 00:09:31 interesting 00:09:37 I've have tried to ascend in 123456 00:09:38 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-503-g45a6586 (34) 00:09:47 he never particularly did allrune speedruns 00:09:59 good man 00:10:13 !lg * won turns=123456 00:10:13 1. Castanova the Metallomancer (L27 SEEE of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2011-08-18 23:39:44, with 1286011 points after 123456 turns and 11:31:22. 00:10:21 !lg * won turns=78291 00:10:21 1. hyperelliptic the Halfling Catapult (L27 HaHu of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2011-02-17 20:14:11, with 1499181 points after 78291 turns and 7:22:53. 00:10:25 haha 00:10:28 :) 00:11:03 !lg * won s=turns 00:11:11 43405 games for * (won): 6x 100072, 6x 75926, 5x 74669, 5x 88378, 5x 115904, 5x 75042, 5x 84093, 5x 107571, 5x 74220, 5x 86842, 4x 63630, 4x 72656, 4x 68536, 4x 87133, 4x 76689, 4x 83526, 4x 102842, 4x 75221, 4x 67391, 4x 84252, 4x 73835, 4x 68088, 4x 105122, 4x 107882, 4x 87253, 4x 84366, 4x 77154, 4x 109273, 4x 61885, 4x 87916, 4x 88594, 4x 92053, 4x 75170, 4x 93732, 4x 71588, 4x 105268, 4x 9275... 00:11:11 er... 00:11:19 !lg * win dur=7:82:91 00:11:20 1. LordSloth the Ghoulish Aeon (L27 GhFi of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 9 runes on 2016-01-04 22:02:31, with 5914535 points after 112156 turns and 8:23:31. 00:11:35 8:23:31 00:11:36 hah 00:11:40 wow, sequell knows what 7:82:91 means 00:11:43 huh 00:11:51 yes I'm happy with that 00:12:22 !lg * won dur=78291 00:12:23 No games for * (won dur=78291). 00:12:44 I suppose if we went to aut scoring, we'd still use increments of 10 aut 00:12:59 gammafunk: for what? 00:13:07 oh, I guess I mean for aut 00:13:12 but we already have that! 00:13:14 !lg . won x=aut 00:13:15 62. [aut=747652] gammafunk the Slayer (L26 DsFi of Ukayaw), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-05-30 10:06:06, with 1595452 points after 76239 turns and 6:52:58. 00:13:19 you mean 10 aut for 1 turn in the current formula? 00:13:23 I see, so that's unscaled 00:13:34 yeah 00:13:39 re what n1 said 00:13:42 formula will be screwed up anyway if I have anything to say about it >_> 00:13:52 regret-index: because of 15 -> 10 runes? 00:14:15 11! 00:14:16 screwing up the formula will be fun and exciting imo 00:14:16 or 11! 00:14:17 but yes 00:14:18 haha 00:14:20 I assume, although we could adjust the scoring to make the points awarded equivalent, no? 00:14:29 new 11 runes as many points as old 15? 00:14:35 <|amethyst> solution: make runes 12-17 available on the orb run 00:14:41 11? what is the proposal that gives 11 00:14:51 putting demonic rune in hells too? 00:14:52 purgatory / demonic 00:14:52 but will new 11 runes take a similar number of turns? I don't think the equivalence is obvious or easy to get right 00:14:58 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Client Quit] 00:15:04 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:15:06 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:10 oi in the game we're spectating this shows up every so often: http://puu.sh/phdz5/f18bd049f4.png 00:15:13 is this meaningful 00:15:13 elliptic: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:dungeon:branch:propose:purgatory 00:15:28 clearly you make people clear every level of the hells instead of diving to make up the turn difference 00:15:28 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:15:30 grammus: oh, that's a bug, yeah 00:15:31 grammus: seems like a bug, to me 00:15:35 gammafunk: hi... 00:15:35 <|amethyst> n1: we didn't do anything to the scoring formula when cutting levels from S branches or vaults or ... 00:15:41 yea i figured as much 00:15:58 it means your game is sick. it'll have to be put down. i'm sorry 00:16:05 <|amethyst> grammus: abyss and/or beogh by any chance? 00:16:08 |amethyst, right, and I don't think new scores are really "equivalent" to the old ones (which is totally fine with me) 00:16:14 nah hes centaur of dith in normal d 00:16:17 <|amethyst> hm 00:16:21 interesting! 00:16:23 showing scores by version would be a great thing to have in the new scoring scripts 00:16:26 he gon lose 00:16:34 filters! 00:16:38 toggles! 00:16:40 buttons, switches! 00:16:41 ZiBuDo: I lost a speedrun basically to your meme unique 00:16:41 <|amethyst> oh, and that's a pile 00:16:48 messing up my swamp:4 00:16:48 LOL 00:16:53 <|amethyst> oh, x:0 y:0 00:16:55 ...???? 00:16:55 with his meme shatter 00:16:57 !tell chequers whatever happened to your new exciting scoring pages, with cheevos etc??? 00:16:57 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let chequers know. 00:16:57 beautiful 00:16:59 oh 00:17:01 did you shut the cursor off 00:17:03 that makes him mad 00:17:06 haha 00:17:08 ^ 00:17:11 I didn't actually 00:17:31 zibudo will be excited to actually have had someone die to him at least 00:17:36 !lg gammafunk cikiller=asterion 00:17:37 No games for gammafunk (cikiller=asterion). 00:17:41 it's a stat on my server 00:17:49 no way can my son kill me 00:17:54 !lg * cjr ikiller=jorgrun 00:17:54 No games for * (cjr ikiller=jorgrun). 00:17:56 does asterion kill anyone 00:18:05 !killratio * asterion recent 00:18:07 !lg pleasingfungus cikiller~~rime_drake|howler_monkey 00:18:07 No battles for * and asterion (recent). 00:18:07 No games for pleasingfungus (cikiller~~rime_drake|howler_monkey). 00:18:11 sorry! 00:18:12 he does better than some uniques 00:18:18 !killratio asterion * recent 00:18:21 asterion wins 1.083% of battles against * (recent). 00:18:23 a rime drake really spooked me once 00:18:24 does that count 00:18:33 !killratio jorgrun * recent 00:18:43 jorgrun wins 1.250% of battles against * (recent). 00:18:43 spooked me real good 00:18:45 btw I have no clue what howler monkeys are supposed to do after playing a bunch of games with them in the game 00:18:49 be loud 00:18:56 this tends to be a sign that the monster isn't really working 00:19:28 <|amethyst> IMO a sign that we should provide a visualisation of noise 00:19:30 are they just loud then? that was my guess, but it didn't seem noticeable 00:19:40 I have my reservations about them as well 00:19:41 |amethyst: well, if noise isn't really doing anything then I don't see the point 00:19:41 clearly I should take a break from gauntlet, make storm clouds less spikey, and then push bai suzhen 00:19:41 |amethyst: +1 00:20:01 elliptic: they have the vault sentinel spell that isn't mark 00:20:05 I think dart slugs are sort of okay, I don't die to them a lot but they feel like they're maybe more notable 00:20:17 possibly they should have a louder version! 00:20:28 @??howler monkey 00:20:28 howler monkey (09h) | Spd: 12 | HD: 3 | HP: 16-21 | AC/EV: 1/11 | Dam: 3, 2 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 54 | Sp: warning cry [11!AM, 08breath] | Sz: small | Int: animal. 00:20:29 @??vault sentinel 00:20:29 vault sentinel (12p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 42-59 | AC/EV: 6/12 | Dam: 15 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 446 | Sp: warning cry [11!AM, 08breath], sentinel's mark | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:20:39 how noticeable is the vault sentinel warning cry compared to their mark 00:20:55 I do guess vaults is, well, tightly packed 00:20:57 PleasingFungus: hm, okay, I wonder if sentinels feel louder because of layouts 00:21:01 possible 00:21:07 (and mark helps) 00:21:18 it's 25 noise for each, so more than a fireball, less than a lightning bolt? 00:21:23 i mean, monsters also have a limit on the distance they can follow you from 00:21:31 vaults has more intelligent monsters than early d 00:21:33 hm, same as a lightning bolt 00:21:41 <|amethyst> solution: merge warning cry and mark 00:21:45 I kind of wanted to just remove spectral weapon from asterion and maybe give him greater servant like the original plan 00:22:05 such a desire on so many fronts to shrink levels 00:22:10 |amethyst: that's the opposite of the point!!! 00:22:14 just have a cap on the summons so he can onlyhave one active 00:22:21 |amethyst: I don't think sentinels would play as well then 00:22:45 it is nice that when a sentinel marks you, you still have incentive to kill the sentinel asap 00:22:51 (if it hasn't already woken everything up) 00:22:58 if asterion loses spectral weapon can something else get it 00:23:05 regret-index: players? 00:23:11 <|amethyst> @??maud 00:23:11 Maud (05@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 96-136 | AC/EV: 9/7 | Dam: 32 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(80) | XP: 1739 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:23:11 :P 00:23:13 I guess so, do you have any ideas for where it's really good on a monster? 00:23:21 * regret-index shrugs. 00:23:29 from what I've seen it sometimes gets him a bit of extra damage 00:23:35 could use them for my planned de knight change 00:23:36 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:52 it might work better on more disposable things 00:24:01 -!- FatShack has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:17 also, i don't want to think about monkeys marking things 00:24:30 I'll think about it for you...mmmmmmm.... 00:24:33 okay there, playgroundfungus 00:24:51 @??howler monkey 00:24:51 howler monkey (09h) | Spd: 12 | HD: 3 | HP: 16-21 | AC/EV: 1/11 | Dam: 3, 2 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 54 | Sp: warning cry [11!AM, 08breath] | Sz: small | Int: animal. 00:24:53 @??giant frog 00:24:53 giant frog (03F) | Spd: 15 (swim: 60%) | HD: 4 | HP: 18-25 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 9 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(20), 12drown | XP: 90 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 00:25:03 that damage 00:25:09 @??jackal 00:25:09 jackal (07h) | Spd: 14 | HD: 1 | HP: 4-7 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 3 | XP: 2 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 00:25:18 I sort of feel like howler monkeys should be at least a little more capable of damaging the player on their own 00:25:28 ya i might've gone overboard on the damage 00:25:29 like closer to frog level 00:25:31 or, uh, underboard 00:25:37 Yeah I don't like the feel of them being just total popcorn that maybe has their mechanic do something impactful if they're lucky 00:25:38 constriction? 00:25:40 (: 00:25:43 <|amethyst> @??giant frog 00:25:43 giant frog (03F) | Spd: 15 (swim: 60%) | HD: 4 | HP: 18-25 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 9 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(20), 12drown | XP: 90 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 00:25:48 could just increase damage a bit 00:25:49 @??hound 00:25:50 hound (08h) | Spd: 15 | HD: 3 | HP: 14-19 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 6 | see invisible | Res: 06magic(10), 08blind | XP: 42 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 00:25:52 constrict to teleport 00:25:53 this was the reference point 00:26:12 i will make the change. someone tell me: 8 or 9 damage? 00:26:29 oh, also 00:26:39 <|amethyst> hm 00:26:46 <|amethyst> they have the same depth as hounds 00:26:51 { 4, 14, 335, SEMI, MONS_HOWLER_MONKEY }, 00:26:52 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:26:56 <|amethyst> I guess the speed is still a distinction 00:26:59 yeah 00:27:03 also they're slightly more fragile 00:27:05 d:14 howlers, very scary. 00:27:06 iirc? 00:27:17 <|amethyst> looks like less 00:27:24 <|amethyst> @??howler monkey 00:27:24 howler monkey (09h) | Spd: 12 | HD: 3 | HP: 16-21 | AC/EV: 1/11 | Dam: 3, 2 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 54 | Sp: warning cry [11!AM, 08breath] | Sz: small | Int: animal. 00:27:26 <|amethyst> @??hound 00:27:26 hound (08h) | Spd: 15 | HD: 3 | HP: 14-19 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 6 | see invisible | Res: 06magic(10), 08blind | XP: 42 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 00:27:28 they come as packs later on but yeah it's not super impressive when it happens 00:27:32 worse ac/ev 00:27:40 gammafunk: did you see i shrank the packs a little? 00:27:48 I don't know how scary post-lair D is supposed to be but it has such fluff monsters 00:27:53 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: could remove hounds from random generation 00:27:54 !lg * t killer=howler_monkey 00:27:54 11. smeego the Ogre Mage (L8 OgAM of Ashenzari), slain by a howler monkey on D:7 on 2016-05-20 22:28:45, with 1468 points after 7621 turns and 0:20:45. 00:27:59 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: replacing with monkeys 00:28:05 lol 00:28:05 !lg * t killer=howler_monkey s=xl 00:28:06 11 games for * (t killer=howler_monkey): 4x 6, 3x 4, 2x 5, 8, 2 00:28:13 impressed it got so many kills 00:28:22 |amethyst: monkeys can't see in the dark though 00:28:22 !lg * t d lvl<10 00:28:24 61710. Dracunos the Skirmisher (L1 MuAK of Lugonu), slain by a dart slug on D:1 (dpeg_arrival_stonehenge_8_columns) on 2016-05-22 19:59:52, with 0 points after 36 turns and 0:01:29. 00:28:24 (I mean, technically, there are also d:11 giant geckos.) 00:28:31 11 in about 60k 00:28:47 !lg * t killer=rime_drake 00:28:48 26. Sicily the Carver (L12 MiFi of Qazlal), blasted by a rime drake (flash freeze) on Lair:3 on 2016-05-21 14:54:45, with 15498 points after 11268 turns and 0:36:10. 00:29:00 !lg * t0.17 killer=fire_drake 00:29:00 46. axle the Cleaver (L9 DDFi), blasted by a fire drake (blast of flame) (kmap: minmay_lair_entry_lava) on D:8 on 2015-11-22 09:46:51, with 3070 points after 6282 turns and 0:21:28. 00:29:03 hm 00:29:15 !lg * t0.17 killer=fire_drake kmap= 00:29:18 !lg * t place~~D:12|D:13|D:14|D:15 00:29:22 17. reriiru the Cleaver (L12 FoCK of Xom), blasted by a fire drake (blast of flame) on Lair:7 (dpeg_slime_entry_corner) on 2015-11-20 12:13:00, with 12975 points after 13976 turns and 0:57:27. 00:29:22 !lg * t 00:29:23 1083. Mordru the Jinx (L9 SpEn), blasted by a tengu conjurer (bolt of magma) (led by a tengu conjurer) on D:15 on 2016-05-22 19:39:44, with 2023 points after 3560 turns and 0:15:20. 00:29:24 75764. Dracunos the Skirmisher (L1 MuAK of Lugonu), slain by a dart slug on D:1 (dpeg_arrival_stonehenge_8_columns) on 2016-05-22 19:59:52, with 0 points after 36 turns and 0:01:29. 00:29:28 !lg * t killer=rime_drake kmap= 00:29:29 20. Sicily the Carver (L12 MiFi of Qazlal), blasted by a rime drake (flash freeze) on Lair:3 on 2016-05-21 14:54:45, with 15498 points after 11268 turns and 0:36:10. 00:29:38 so vaults, 00:29:40 good. 00:29:52 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:22 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-503-g45a6586 (34) 00:30:50 .ocs 00:30:51 45. porory the Executioner (L12 MiFi of Okawaru), slain by a seven-headed hydra (summoned by an orange crystal statue) on D:14 (minivault_15) on 2016-06-04 11:59:21, with 19385 points after 9385 turns and 0:29:00. 00:30:57 @??worker ant 00:30:57 worker ant (05a) | Spd: 12 | HD: 3 | HP: 14-19 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 808(poison:6-12) | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 09poison | XP: 33 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 00:30:58 .ocs * t 00:30:59 5. glanitos the Protected (L10 MiAK of Lugonu), mangled by an ogre (a +0 giant club) (summoned by an orange crystal statue) on D:8 (minmay_statue_hallways) on 2016-05-20 14:15:14, with 4053 points after 8901 turns and 0:28:47. 00:31:03 @??howler monkey 00:31:03 howler monkey (09h) | Spd: 12 | HD: 3 | HP: 16-21 | AC/EV: 1/11 | Dam: 3, 2 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 54 | Sp: warning cry [11!AM, 08breath] | Sz: small | Int: animal. 00:31:14 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:31:18 this might be a better comparison 00:31:36 PleasingFungus: it's still in progress 00:31:36 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:31:40 doing through a dumb rewrite 00:31:41 !messages 00:31:42 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (14m 45s ago): whatever happened to your new exciting scoring pages, with cheevos etc??? 00:31:43 haha 00:31:52 PleasingFungus: not sure what worker ants have to do with howler monkeys 00:31:59 doing dumb rewrite along with stupid remove 00:31:59 elliptic: they place in roughly the same level band 00:32:01 same speed 00:32:04 similar defenses 00:32:12 need monkeyhives 00:32:17 well, they place in exactly the same level band, actually 00:32:23 and one has very dangerous poison melee 00:32:25 just FLAT vs SEMI 00:32:27 yes 00:32:47 i was thinking about what kind of fast melee stuff places on d:4 00:32:50 right, I never noted anything down about trying formicids in anthills 00:34:10 -!- Amphouse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:34:53 -!- FatShack has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:35:15 PleasingFungus: IMO just replace 3,2 by 8 or something 00:35:28 yeah, i was gonna do either 8 or 5,4 00:35:39 5,4 is really weak still 00:35:42 yeah 00:35:44 i sort of like the hit,bite thing.... 00:35:45 idk 00:35:56 6,5? 00:35:57 not sure why extra messages is a good thing 00:36:01 fair enough 00:36:20 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:36:29 bite + grab? 00:36:39 you really like the constrict thing 00:36:43 (: 00:36:53 i feel like it has decent synergy with the shouting 00:37:19 ??insubstantial wisp[ 00:37:20 I don't have a page labeled insubstantial wisp[ in my learndb. 00:37:22 ??insubstantial wisp 00:37:22 insubstantial wisp[1/1]: Insubstantial wisps are like a screaming monkey on your windshield, It's unlikely to kill you directly But all you can see is the monkey 00:38:01 -!- debo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:39:06 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:40:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-504-g0da41c7: Buff howler monkey damage 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0da41c7ad3fe 00:40:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:45:34 oh no... 00:45:36 I found... 00:45:41 the corpse of elyquokka... 00:45:43 :( 00:45:48 :( :( :( 00:48:33 elyvilon's progeny: apis, pearl dragon, quokka 00:49:34 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:51:36 also a butterfly i think 00:52:28 that's what ophan need, summon butterfly 00:54:33 synergy! 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:09:32 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-504-g0da41c7 (34) 01:11:10 -!- johnstein has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 01:11:45 -!- punpun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:12:10 -!- johnstein has joined ##crawl-dev 01:13:25 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:15:45 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 01:19:41 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-504-g0da41c7 (34) 01:22:14 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-505-g8266cc7: Correct messages for losing Uskayaw 3* and 4*. 10(73 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8266cc7cb9b7 01:22:19 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:22:46 <|amethyst> hmm 01:25:40 the game doesn't seem to warn the player for unwielding artefact weapons that have rPois when they're standing in meph clouds 01:27:48 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:30:04 -!- chequers has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:34:22 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:37:46 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:42:04 -!- eki has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:47:06 didn't there used to be an in-game menu displaying the noise your spells made? 01:47:45 ProzacElf: i think it's in the spell description 01:48:43 -!- the_glow1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:49:41 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:51:10 i thought there used to be a ##### style bar in the I menu 01:51:34 or maybe it said like 'sultana' 'choko' 'honeycomb' 01:51:40 because noise is exactly like food cost 01:51:57 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: I! 01:52:08 from 'rat' to 'howler monkey' 01:53:01 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: (or z*!) 01:54:14 nope, not in either 01:54:25 just power range hunger 01:54:34 examine the spell? 01:54:40 through say I 01:54:48 ah, there it 01:54:50 it is 01:55:00 hrm, right, using a teleporter onto an occupied space teleports the monster 01:55:01 although it's kind of a pain to have to examine each spell for that info 01:55:18 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-505-g8266cc7 01:55:21 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: I! doesn't list it? 01:55:33 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: or II 01:55:36 I'd prefer to to try to blink them if there's any spare space, since that kind of disrupts my second layout here >_> 01:55:56 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: I get 01:56:00 <|amethyst> Your Spells Power Range Hunger Level 01:56:03 <|amethyst> a + Magic Dart ##.. @------> #...... 1 01:56:11 he wants noise 01:56:22 <|amethyst> err 01:56:39 <|amethyst> It clearly says noise right there, H-U-N-G-E-R 01:56:52 <|amethyst> (oops) 01:57:16 qazlal surrounds you with a storm of chokos 01:57:17 <|amethyst> hm 01:57:31 <|amethyst> could show noise in place of level 01:57:35 <|amethyst> though it's not a lot of room 01:58:03 there should besome room to compress range and power, and possibly range and hunger? 01:58:06 canofworms: by the way, can I offload a tile request on you 01:58:08 <|amethyst> yeah 01:58:21 regret-index: what tile 01:58:21 miasma 01:58:27 hahahaha 01:58:29 you mean the cloud? 01:58:31 yes 01:58:35 good idea 01:58:52 it being identical to black smoke blocks a dith vault of mine >_> 01:58:53 should be dark teal imo 01:59:08 |amethyst: particularly since level is already shown on the other I screen 01:59:09 dark teal is draining cloud's tile! 01:59:21 yeah that should b e pretty doable if you give a colour to recolour 01:59:22 well 01:59:25 draining is a teal border 01:59:30 rather than say pure teal 01:59:46 there are only so many distinct colors 01:59:51 yeah =\ 01:59:52 and too many distinct clouds 01:59:59 man, some more of that fabled awesome spin cycle loot here: x - tha cursed rin' o' Doloica {Str+4 Int-5 Slay-5} 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:04 etc_miasma...??? 02:00:12 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:01:03 i think it's darkgrey/darkmagenta but don't quote me on that 02:01:22 anyway I'll do a recolour in a bit 02:01:26 miasma being dark purple makes sense to me too 02:02:27 when you get three randart rings in one vault at least one of them being bad seems inevitable 02:04:05 probably true 02:04:53 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:07:13 -!- eb has quit [] 02:08:38 -!- Zeor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:09:37 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-505-g8266cc7 (34) 02:20:27 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:25:05 -!- WalrusKing__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:27:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:32:26 ontoclasm: rip clouds of translocational energy 02:32:31 and that one vault that makes an assload of purple smoke 02:35:30 those are light purple tbh 02:36:01 light purple is mutagenic fog, no? 02:36:08 and the orb 02:38:04 I'm talking about tiles 02:38:10 mutagenic fog is rainbow in tiles 02:40:05 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:40:16 there's like 40 kinds of clouds 02:40:31 some of them are going to have to be sort of similar-looking 02:41:52 -!- FireSight has quit [] 02:46:24 clearly should cut blue smoke some time 02:48:12 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 02:48:24 (in cloud.cc order: fire, mephitic, cold, poison, black / grey / blue / purple smoke, tloc energy, forest fire, steam, ink, petrify, holy flames, miasma, mist, chaos, rain, mutagenic, magic trail, tornado, dust, spectral mist, acid, storm, negative energy. 26.) 02:48:34 -!- sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:51:26 -!- regret-index has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:53:43 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-505-g8266cc7 02:55:48 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:57:56 -!- chamandro has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:59:37 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:06 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:49 regret-index: http://imgur.com/a/vIhOZ 03:01:52 pick your favorite set 03:02:28 green draining is there because miasma causes poisoning so it's a good reminder??? 03:02:34 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:03:26 oh wait 03:03:37 !tell regret-index http://imgur.com/a/vIhOZ pick your favorite set 03:03:37 CanOfWorms: OK, I'll let regret-index know. 03:03:45 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:07:22 hold on. how can i walk through my own pclouds with impunity but this tengu reaver actually poisoned me with one of his? 03:08:10 ??* 03:08:10 *[1/5]: * (glyph) is an orb: {Orb of Destruction} {Orb of Fire} {Lost Soul} {Battlesphere}. 03:08:14 ??piety 03:08:14 piety[1/6]: With your current god, you have a piety number nominally from 1-200. If your piety reaches 0, you are excommunicated. piety[2] describes piety and penance. piety[3] describes piety growth in general. piety[4] describes piety growth for each god. piety[5] describes uses of piety. 03:08:23 ??piety[3 03:08:23 piety[3/6]: Piety growth slows at high levels; 0% at 200, 44% at >=160, 66% at >=100. Sif Muna's taper is slower - 0% at 200, 80% at >=160. Ru has no tapering (and stops at 160). Gift timeout is still decremented 100% of the time, so gifts effectively cost less piety once you are at >=100 piety (other than Sif) and even less once you are at >=160 piety. 03:08:36 ??*[2 03:08:36