00:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:00:06 yes, with fedhas 00:00:27 my allies have me trapped 00:00:47 and when i try to swap with the dude trapping me "_Your wandering mushroom cannot make way for you." 00:01:23 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-459-gb8ed64d (34) 00:02:25 clearly, you should read tp 00:02:36 i only have 1 00:02:41 would really rather not use it 00:02:42 WalkerBoh: depends on your mhp i think 00:02:49 and in any case, i shouldnt have to :P 00:02:55 they shouldnt trap you in the first place 00:02:58 if i set my mhp to 55, i am regaining 1 hp per like 5 1/5 turns 00:03:12 amalloy: oh, it's not independent of max hp? 00:03:20 definitely not 00:03:25 <|amethyst> Ultraviolent4: does tw work? 00:03:27 oh, I got a better qaz message 00:03:30 if it were, XL1 chars would heal very fast, relatively 00:03:34 no 00:03:37 amalloy: well that's new to me, thanks 00:03:52 there are like 5 other mushroom piled up behind the corner 00:03:54 You kill the crocodile! Qazlal accepts your kill. You can now call upon nature's wrath in a wide area around you. You can no longer call upon nature's wrath in a wide area around you. 00:04:02 so i guess they are all trapping each other and dont move when i use tw 00:04:05 Ultraviolent4: they can't move because there are monsters nearby 00:04:08 probably 00:04:14 i bet if you press . a few times they will die 00:04:19 <|amethyst> and you can't swap because you're standing on a plant 00:04:26 oh, or that 00:04:35 .gfgk name=ultraviolent4 00:04:36 1. Ultraviolent4 the Shatterer (L19 OgSu of Okawaru), slain by a green very ugly thing in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2016-05-17 02:37:13, with 247706 points after 27306 turns and 2:48:40. 00:04:41 Ultraviolent4: that was a good tv btw 00:04:45 you are right, im on a plant 00:04:52 lol 00:04:59 that game was so sad 00:05:05 i fat fingured moving to the stair 00:05:07 and moved past it 00:05:12 Ultraviolent4: what about tr to make them run away? 00:05:14 ah, was wondering why you didn't leave 00:05:21 <|amethyst> amalloy: nothing targettable 00:05:31 <|amethyst> amalloy: you can only tr spots you have LOS to 00:05:36 i cant see any other tiles to use tr 00:05:42 nice 00:05:51 and im sure there are no monsters nearby 00:05:51 because i have detect monsters with boots of the ass 00:06:00 i guess the simple fix would be to allow friendly plants to walk on plants 00:06:14 <|amethyst> that's not a simple fix at all 00:06:15 just waited 500 turns 00:06:25 they are not wandering or dying with tw 00:06:49 -!- scwizard has quit [Client Quit] 00:06:59 can there be a general retreat? 00:07:09 so if you dont specifiy somewhere they just run in any direction? 00:07:24 <|amethyst> that's tw 00:07:34 i see 00:08:02 guess its time to make another forest fire, then 00:08:14 <|amethyst> hm 00:08:15 i wonder if you could ta them to attack each other without incurring fedhas wrath 00:08:29 <|amethyst> amalloy: no, ta won't make allies attack one another 00:09:00 <|amethyst> killing the plant you are on might be less penance than starting a file? 00:09:02 <|amethyst> fire 00:09:10 <|amethyst> since it looks like you can move SE 00:09:33 i used the lightning on a tree, not a plant 00:09:37 so i didnt get any penance 00:09:46 im out :) 00:09:48 <|amethyst> oh, I thought burning trees gave fedhas penance 00:09:57 it doesnt appear that way 00:10:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:10:39 FR 00:11:09 otoh controlled burns are good for a forest 00:11:10 <|amethyst> ah 00:11:12 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:11:15 <|amethyst> it's just piety loss, not penance 00:12:36 btw, i got to that trapped spot on a plant with auto explore 00:13:04 <|amethyst> simple solution would be to remove the plant-walking ability 00:13:26 -!- bitcoinbastard_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:13:39 <|amethyst> that is one of two things that lets the player share a square with a monster 00:15:21 there are two? the only other one i can think of is wizmode, which doesn't seem like it should count 00:15:29 <|amethyst> amalloy: submerged monsters 00:15:55 <|amethyst> which might not be possible now? are swamp worms guaranteed to reveal themselves before you step onto them? 00:16:09 you could blink onto them still, maybe? or tele? 00:16:28 if you remove plant walking, you can very easily trap yourself with the growth ability 00:17:27 <|amethyst> if you trap yourself with an active ability that shows you which squares it will block, that's your own problem I think 00:18:27 i guess 00:18:31 even just p can trap you 00:18:46 is there a reason for needing LoS for a retreat command? 00:20:28 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:21:44 -!- Zeor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:21:57 <|amethyst> consistency with everything else 00:22:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:30 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:22:53 -!- FireSight has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:23:30 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:09 -!- mango_lives has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:26:43 the new ally indicators are really cool btw :) 00:27:38 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 00:29:19 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:30:09 ??ontoclasm[beauty 00:30:09 ontoclasm[20/21]: ontoclasm is full of magic and beauty 00:31:19 the trapping doesn't make sense 00:31:35 with fedhas you can swap places with your mushrooms when you walk into them, including when enemies are visible 00:31:42 so getting trapped should never occur 00:32:47 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:33:53 @zxc i was standing on a plant 00:34:04 so the mushroom couldnt take my tile 00:34:12 you never mentioned that 00:34:18 i didnt know that 00:34:57 i autoexplored there so didnt realise until ameth said that was the reason 00:35:41 so maybe if 1. autoexplore didn't step on plants or 2. if a mushroom has nowhere to go it implodes 00:36:08 or 3. mushrooms could walk on plants 00:36:19 but I like 2. 00:36:30 thats an option 00:36:33 <|amethyst> or 2.5. if you try swapping an ally onto a plant, the plant explodes 00:36:34 if it cant swap with you 00:36:40 New branch created: pull/288 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/288 00:36:40 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/288 * 0.19-a0-460-gaab38fc: Scale powered by death duration with mutation level. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aab38fce5488 00:36:43 you could be prompted to explode it 00:36:55 <|amethyst> you can attack it currently 00:37:07 <|amethyst> or did you mean kill it without piety loss? 00:37:13 without piety loss 00:37:15 <|amethyst> 3. isn't really technically feasible 00:37:38 'decay summons' fedhas ability 00:37:39 <|amethyst> 1. doesn't actually solve the problem, just makes it less likely to happen 00:37:56 smite targeted summon destroyer 00:38:16 <|amethyst> wouldn't help here 00:38:28 you only need to have it in the case that you try to swap and it cant take your position 00:38:35 doesnt need to be smite targeted 00:38:40 <|amethyst> since fedhas mushrooms aren't summons 00:39:05 'decay plant' then 00:40:37 youre only ever going to need to decay one 00:40:47 because i think its only a corner that can get you like this 00:41:09 once you get that first one, you wont be on plants any longer 00:41:16 so you can swap normally 00:42:07 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:42:09 <|amethyst> ability "pick" that removes a monster on your square 00:42:18 <|amethyst> probably not actually an ability 00:42:29 <|amethyst> but I think it makes more sense to remove the plant than to remove the wandering mushroom 00:43:13 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:43:27 gammafunk: i chose lightgreen for hep altars because hep's colours are lightgreen & lightblue, and lightblue already had an altar 00:43:28 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:43:29 iirc 00:43:48 chequers: i welcome suggestions for better mut messages :) 00:43:49 PleasingFungus: well, probably you'd want to make the latar use a lightgreen/lightblue etc color 00:43:57 if that's not something that exists 00:44:01 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: ? 00:44:05 but yeah my concern was when I saw the fedhas altar 00:44:11 however that's just green, so it's not a problem 00:44:12 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: lightblue isn't an altar colour 00:44:15 oh 00:44:17 idk 00:44:22 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: there are probably ETCs that use it 00:44:23 I can make a commit for that later 00:44:24 anyway i don't care about this like 00:44:26 at all 00:44:30 PleasingFungus: "Your blood thickens into armour" "Your blood armour thickens" Even though it's not neccessarily true when you get mut level 1, it will describe the mutation clearly 00:44:31 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:44:45 PleasingFungus: fine, in my commit there's going to be one hell of a dunk about tiles players is all 00:44:49 if that's what you want... 00:44:53 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:44:54 i'm ready. 00:45:07 just have to finish my lua extravaganza vault here 00:45:41 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:45:43 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:45:53 I only make the most vital commits, like gimmick lua vaults and coloring console altars made by devs who hate console 00:46:38 also, crucially, adding the monsters made by said devs to player tile randomization lua code 00:47:10 Trog roars, "Now battlemage!" 00:47:44 PleasingFungus: is the big reason you don't want non-speed-10 ancestors for ce/fe/etc because of the ressit reflavouring issues, or balance, or something else I forget 00:48:17 one reason was that you actually can't have monsters that are the same speed as the player 00:48:28 i i r c 00:48:32 orly 00:48:39 why does it matter for ce/fe in particular? Isn't there an option to make you autoexplore at ally speed 00:48:43 since monster speed and player speed work differently 00:49:07 gammafunk: +1 for randomtiles ancestors :) 00:49:21 it's already there 00:49:22 i did try to implement it at some point, a few months ago, and realized i couldn't actually get it to line up 00:49:28 ignite blood, aka the original MUT_NO_LOVE 00:49:30 ancestor/player speed 00:49:32 including fixing that bug you found about it initializing 00:49:32 lol 00:49:37 oh, nice! 00:49:38 what was that? 00:49:44 Bad Code 00:50:02 -!- Amphouse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:51:49 what controls whether monsters bleed 00:52:09 <|amethyst> chequers: M_COLD_BLOOD or M_WARM_BLOOD flag 00:52:32 hm, so why wouldn't eg emperor scorpion bleed? 00:52:50 <|amethyst> because it doesn't have blood 00:53:09 <|amethyst> haemolymph doesn't count 00:53:36 :) 00:53:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:53:43 <|amethyst> (these flags are also used for vampire feeding) 00:54:49 concentrated acid for blood... 00:54:55 <|amethyst> what bothers me more is that cold attacks slow only cold-*blooded* things, meaning that obvious poikilotherms like worms and insects are unaffected 00:55:18 obvious poikilotherms 00:55:25 -!- zizzlebop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:55:30 yes, that's a googlewhack 00:55:35 !learn add reserved_clan_names Obvious Poikilotherms 00:55:35 reserved clan names[20/20]: Obvious Poikilotherms 00:55:48 well, it's a no result, so not technically I guess 00:56:03 it'll be a googlewhack once google indexes this log! 00:57:41 er 00:57:46 except i guess it'll also be in learndb 00:57:48 ruined... 00:57:53 thanks mate 00:57:58 :p 00:58:08 <|amethyst> put it in quotes 00:58:12 <|amethyst> so you only get the singular 00:58:18 cheque-mate! 00:58:31 <|amethyst> oh wait 00:58:35 <|amethyst> I used the plural too 00:58:53 <|amethyst> well, then, might as well just retire from computing 00:59:44 rip 00:59:50 <|amethyst> that's the problem with googlewhacks... once you mention them, they are no longer such 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:00 delicate flowers... 01:02:36 i'm not worried, this channel is an eternal source 01:03:04 just casually dropping 'bvious whatevermajig' --- that was pure ##crawl-dev 01:04:03 i distinctly remember one of my first visits to this channel, two years ago, being in the middle of a discussion about... computational biology? 01:04:05 something like that 01:05:45 <|amethyst> I put the "off" in "off-topic" 01:08:29 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:11:00 -!- Ultraviolent4 has left ##crawl-dev 01:11:04 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:19:22 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:20:35 computers don't have any biology, so that's, like, impossible 01:23:04 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:25:46 would someone clean up and post the tourney writeup? 01:26:03 did you write one? 01:26:59 yes 01:27:07 http://dpaste.com/0K0V8ZD#wrap 01:27:12 and http://imgur.com/a/awlwK 01:27:18 (from john) 01:29:51 do you want the pics in the post? 01:34:38 <|amethyst> BTW, since different people are awake now 01:34:54 <|amethyst> %git nfm-0.18.2-candidate 01:34:54 07|amethyst02 * 0.18.1-41-g04e063e: Fix NOWIZARD builds (sagitter) 10(9 hours ago, 4 files, 14+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/04e063e6b673 01:35:15 hrm 01:35:23 <|amethyst> it builds fine but needs actual testing 01:35:30 someone remind me where offline trunk downloads live 01:35:34 also, what exactly is that? 01:35:45 ??trunk 01:35:45 trunk[1/4]: The latest development code of Stone Soup is often referred to as trunk. Trunk tile+command-line windows binaries are available from http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/ 01:35:50 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it's a bunch of cherry picks onto stone_soup-0.18 01:35:54 PleasingFungus: yes, i think so 01:35:54 ahh 01:36:01 re pics 01:37:27 what's with the square braces? are those supposed to be links? 01:37:49 yeah, will become links 01:38:02 ...they don't, though.. 01:38:03 er, well I guess you'd have to make them links 01:38:06 yeah 01:38:10 Finally, a massive thank you to elliptic. For the past five years he quietly coded and ran DCSS's tournaments. His efforts 01:38:11 has been running the tournament, which is an invisible and thankless task. 01:38:19 what is that last sentence actually supposed to be 01:38:52 lmao, the guy commenting on the 0.17 tournament post that "oh shit, you guys actually fixed the smitey Freeze bug! 01:38:55 also lol at 'quietly coded' and 'thankless task' 01:39:02 nice, someone knew about that 01:39:14 "I noticed just today playing 0.17 on my Linux Mint computer that an old bug that has survived many a version, to the delight of my Ice Elementalists, has been, unfortunately, fixed. I had no plans to ever report that bug, but somebody else must have. " 01:39:25 that's great 01:39:30 way to go, linux guy 01:39:41 <|amethyst> %git :/told Lasty 01:39:41 07|amethyst02 * 0.18-a0-1523-gbe15c29: Don't allow supercharging non-chargeables (pubby) 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/be15c299740c 01:39:49 reminds me of the pan orc bug that thrall et al were keeping as secret tech, until some of the other korean players ratted on them 01:41:31 what was the pan orc bug? all I remember is the orc allies vs tormenting monsters thing 01:42:31 something about saving and loading in pan full healed all your companions, maybe? 01:42:35 god companions 01:42:40 gammafunk: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=5&p=271837#p271837 01:44:12 %git 1334740c376c7b24cbb854db8518fec368414b70 01:44:12 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-219-g1334740: Don't sometimes make a pandemonium lord appear next to the player on D:1. 10(2 years, 1 month ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1334740c376c 01:44:16 this wasn't it but it's good 01:44:35 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:45:38 -!- vonhedlund has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:46:44 that's a good post, hopefully he just learns necromutation 01:46:52 haha 01:48:45 -!- IceBlind has quit [] 01:49:41 dangit, what's the feature name for grates again 01:49:54 <|amethyst> iron_grate 01:50:02 thank you 01:50:11 we should add that to des syntax guide 01:50:14 or I should, rather 01:50:38 chequers: so did you want to fix all those links, or remove them, or what 01:51:13 chequers, feel free to also link the entire album in case people want to see the other charts. 01:51:15 <|amethyst> our "vaultname"s for features are pretty bad in many cases 01:51:35 <|amethyst> I can never remember clear_rock_wall on the first try 01:51:37 for the data junkies out there 01:51:43 <|amethyst> I always try "translucent_..." 01:51:53 the tiles names are super fun too 01:52:21 i try transparent, then translucent, then sometimes i remember clear 01:52:32 another thing I want to do, that's not really related to this, but made me think of it 01:52:47 <|amethyst> oh, transparent 01:52:50 <|amethyst> also "glass" 01:52:52 is there an easy way I could expose the list of player-visible monster data to clua? 01:53:00 as in I could iterate over the set of monsters in the game 01:53:13 just stuff you could see in ?/ 01:53:33 as opposed to only getting that when an actual monster of that type is in my los 01:53:55 !source lookup_help.cc:269 01:53:55 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/lookup_help.cc#l269 01:54:01 <|amethyst> iterate over the set of monsters, or the set of monster types? 01:54:03 the relevant ?/m logic 01:54:05 fwiw 01:54:13 oh, right good place to start 01:54:18 (283-284 are the only lines you don't care about, probably) 01:54:29 |amethyst: how do you mean? The set of monster types that exist in the game, I guess 01:54:36 <|amethyst> ah 01:54:43 *can exist, since not all will generate in a given game 01:55:06 e.g. tiamat 01:55:16 right 01:55:23 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I thought maybe you meant getting a list of all individuals (that the player has seen) 01:55:34 or, for that matter, cerebov etc, who won't generate in the vast majority of games :) 01:55:45 oh, yeah this is just to avoid having a Big Old Monster List 01:55:55 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: yak won't generate in the vast majority of games :) 01:56:02 true 01:56:10 grim 01:56:16 cerebov has generated in every game I've ever played 01:56:21 including Super Mario Brothers 01:56:32 i guess he throws those bowser fireballs at you? 01:56:33 <|amethyst> FR: that sprite hack 01:56:37 maybe he has some of the spinning fire things 01:56:51 <|amethyst> different unique for each suit in Super Mario World 01:56:51 PleasingFungus: fix 01:56:52 we should just enable chaos crawl without telling anyone 01:57:13 ok 01:57:20 i think i'm going to bed, so feel free to send me tells etc 01:57:28 or just send them to gammafunk 01:57:30 he loves tells 01:57:33 and tournament posts 01:58:00 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 01:58:18 ??chaos crawl 01:58:18 I don't have a page labeled chaos_crawl in my learndb. 01:58:21 go on mate 01:59:56 %git chaos_crawl 01:59:56 Could not find commit chaos_crawl (git returned 128) 02:00:00 oh, different branch name 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:05 %git chaos 02:00:05 Could not find commit chaos (git returned 128) 02:00:07 nope 02:00:23 %git chaoscrawl 02:00:23 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1685-gfa9eca8: Merge branch 'master' into chaoscrawl 10(9 weeks ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fa9eca8d6cbf 02:02:32 dammit, so close 02:02:59 johnstein: iirc it mapped the appearance of every monster to some other random monster each game 02:03:09 so you'd see cerebov on d:1 but it was just a goblin etc 02:03:28 <|amethyst> ??mislead[3] 02:03:28 mislead[3/8]: #1590: "The mottled dragon twitches its whiskers." 02:04:03 also that great Gloorx Vlooq <-> goblin appearance bug 02:05:51 lol 02:05:54 that one was awesome 02:10:36 -!- WalrusKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:21:25 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 02:22:36 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:26:55 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:31:37 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:34:15 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:39:05 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:42:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:54:35 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:55:16 -!- nikheizen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:59:11 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:04:30 @??mutant beast 03:04:30 mature weirdshock beast (06H) | Spd: 10-20 | HD: 15 | HP: 66-94 | AC/EV: 9/5 | Dam: 26, 1503(constrict) | Res: 06magic(60), 10elec | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 1293 | Sp: blinkbolt (2d20) [11!AM, 06!sil] / blinkbolt (2d20) [11!AM, 06!sil], fire breath (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / fire breath (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / fire breath (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], blink.. 03:04:32 @??mutant beast 03:04:32 mature weirdshock beast (06H) | Spd: 10-20 | HD: 15 | HP: 66-94 | AC/EV: 9/5 | Dam: 26, 1503(constrict) | Res: 06magic(60), 10elec | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 1293 | Sp: blinkbolt (2d20) [11!AM, 06!sil] / blinkbolt (2d20) [11!AM, 06!sil], fire breath (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / fire breath (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / fire breath (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], blink.. 03:04:35 @??mutant beast 03:04:35 mature weirdshock beast (06H) | Spd: 10-20 | HD: 15 | HP: 66-94 | AC/EV: 9/5 | Dam: 26, 1503(constrict) | Res: 06magic(60), 10elec | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 1293 | Sp: blinkbolt (2d20) [11!AM, 06!sil] / blinkbolt (2d20) [11!AM, 06!sil], fire breath (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / fire breath (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / fire breath (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], blink.. 03:09:23 -!- scwizard has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:12:20 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-459-gb8ed64d (34) 03:12:39 ??scales[2 03:12:39 scales[2/2]: (+AC unless otherwise specified) Molten [1, 3 EV-1, 4 EV-1 rF+]; Icy [1, 3 EV-1, 4 EV-1 rC+]; Yellow [2, 3, 4 rCorr]; Green [2, 3, 4 rPois]; Metallic [2, 3, 4 rElec]; Iridescent [4, 6, 8]; Bone Plates [2 SH+2, 3 SH+3, 4 SH+4]; Black [4 Dex-1, 7 Dex-2, 10 Dex-3]; Brown [1 +3% HP, 2 +5% HP, 3 +7% HP]; Repulsion [EV+2, EV+3, EV+4 RMsl]; Sturdy [ER-2, ER-4, ER-6] 03:14:47 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:20:16 -!- Idolo has quit [] 03:27:20 !tell pleasingfungus this is what I hope sanguine becomes http://dpaste.com/3YVBSAW 03:27:21 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 03:28:39 -!- Nasst has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:38:07 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:44:38 -!- Sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:55:02 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:55:18 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:58:14 who gets that? 03:58:18 or just a random mut? 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:04:09 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:06:57 Memeon Spawn 04:07:09 you see what I did there? 04:08:05 -!- beogh has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:08:13 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:09:42 -!- JStrange has joined ##crawl-dev 04:09:58 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:12:35 ProzacElf: Ds 04:12:51 ah 04:12:51 -!- debo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:13:03 it seems....decidedly worse than the other scale mutations? 04:13:10 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:13:46 well, i guess i can't really say that without knowing how much it actually improves the AC 04:14:39 i guess triggering at 2/3 hp isn't too bad either 04:14:46 I think it's (100 - %hp) * (4 + 4 * mut) 04:15:00 I might be wrong though, not sure about those ac values 04:15:35 that could add up to quite a bit 04:15:58 the secret trick was to credit you for the mut so that you'd become invested in developing it 04:16:04 hrm? I could add up to 16 * (100 - %hp) 04:16:24 so I guess if it triggers only at 2/3, it could add up to 16 * 2 / 3 04:16:41 at t-3 04:16:52 er 04:16:59 it could add up to 16 actually 04:17:18 at 2/3 hp it would be only be 16 / 3 ac 04:17:34 you'd get to 16 when you were close to death 04:19:21 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 04:19:24 dang, I look over at my backup 04:19:32 it's frozen on a backup of xom.cc... 04:22:39 oh, that 100-%hp is a decimal, not an integer? 04:22:43 that's far less extreme 04:23:09 which actually makes a lot more sense 04:23:15 -!- ManMan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:23:20 because then it would be strongest at higher hp if it were an integer 04:25:21 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:25:42 still, 6-16 ac, give or take, is decent 04:27:37 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:40 5.333 - 15.999 ac B-} 04:33:30 !calc 10.666 * 2 / 3 04:33:31 7.11 04:36:35 how do I check for kills by uniques? this doesn't work !lg * map~~unique s=ckiller 04:38:16 oh, it's not unique, just uniq... don't mind me 04:38:21 -!- knu has quit [Quit: Reboot...] 04:38:21 !lg * recent kmap~~uniq s=cikiller 04:38:23 106776 games for * (recent kmap~~uniq): 17713x Sigmund, 10927x Grinder, 9634x Robin, 7303x Natasha, 6612x Crazy Yiuf, 6160x Pikel, 5039x Terence, 4303x Menkaure, 3881x Ijyb, 3203x Duvessa, 2647x Jessica, 2229x Joseph, 2073x Prince Ribbit, 1941x Snorg, 1938x Blork, 1806x Edmund, 1779x Gastronok, 1608x Dowan, 1499x Maud, 1448x Erolcha, 1400x Erica, 1386x Rupert, 1234x Grum, 709x Urug, 549x Harold, 5... 04:38:35 ProzacElf: yes, that's it 04:38:43 but a unique can follow you outside of their vault 04:39:25 geekosaur: taht's why i used kmap instead of map 04:39:32 !lg * killer=uniq 04:39:36 631610. Ronzu the Skirmisher (L3 DsBe of Trog), slain by Sigmund (a +1 scythe of freezing) on D:2 on 2016-06-02 08:38:14, with 29 points after 1163 turns and 0:07:23. 04:39:53 !lg * killer=uniq s=cikiller 04:39:55 thanks! 04:39:57 631610 games for * (killer=uniq): 140943x Sigmund, 63790x Grinder, 47139x Crazy Yiuf, 46668x Terence, 41365x Ijyb, 24577x Jessica, 24440x Prince Ribbit, 23742x Pikel, 22630x Menkaure, 21207x Natasha, 20574x Duvessa, 15716x Blork, 13225x Edmund, 11912x Dowan, 10647x Joseph, 7996x Robin, 7836x Erolcha, 7790x Gastronok, 6085x Rupert, 5319x Snorg, 5240x Purgy, 4452x Nessos, 4214x Erica, 3486x Harold, ... 04:40:39 also uniques can spawn in other vaults than their own 04:40:40 yeah, there's a killer of 'uniq' for that purpose 04:40:50 and yeah that's an even better point 04:41:24 my most famous death to a uniqe is getting into a LOS of Crazy Yiuf as Naga of Chei, he managed to drink potion of haste, paralyse me and then kill me dead before I got another turn 04:41:35 some fun interactions happen sometimes 04:41:44 interesting that sigmund has so many, guess it's cuz he's the earliest or most common? 04:41:56 early and has confuse 04:41:57 think of him as one of the less scary ones 04:42:13 invisible, throw flame and confuse together I imagine 04:42:26 yeah, along with a reach weapon that does high damage 04:42:52 neat 04:42:54 grinder can kill you in 1 turn if you're unlucky/squishy 04:43:17 Pikel's whip is also pretty annoying, especially if it's elec 04:43:21 yeah, grinder gets extreme respect 04:43:50 joseph can dish out very respectable damage with his sling 04:44:04 the less are more situational I imagine 04:44:06 ignacio's speed and haste are something to watch out for 04:44:08 the rest* 04:44:18 if you ever see him, though! :D 04:44:37 yeah but we were picking uniques at random, I thought that was the game 04:44:57 no I just went down the list and picked some early threats 04:45:14 down the list?! you mentioned joseph! 04:45:41 donald's my favorite, because if you train shields, you only find mundane shields - but donald might bless you with an ego ;) 04:46:02 there's always mennas 04:46:18 !lg * killer=Joseph s=map 04:46:19 10609 games for * (killer=Joseph): 10102x, 20x old_standard_altar, 16x uniq_joseph, 10x basic_altar, 9x lemuel_doored_altar, 7x okawaru_ov_weapons_minmay, 6x corexii_shack_village, 6x dpeg_oklobed_lair, 5x nicolae_tso_besieged_by_evil, 5x erik_lair_dragon, 5x glass_columns_c, 5x minmay_temple_entry_statues_fountains, 4x minmay_temple_entry_glass, 4x shop, 4x wad_pebble_path, 4x evilmike_ruin_ashen... 04:46:38 hm not what I wanted 04:46:45 guess his you want kmap 04:46:48 (maybe) 04:46:52 !lg * killer=Joseph s=kmap 04:46:53 10609 games for * (killer=Joseph): 7520x uniq_joseph, 3068x, 12x sword_in_stone, 9x minmay_sticks_and_stones 04:47:01 I wanted to see how "early" is he 04:47:08 then s=place 04:47:14 I think he's around start of the lair? 04:47:17 maybe filtering only for D 04:47:21 no, he's in D a lot 04:47:27 also in lair though 04:47:50 yeah, I guess in my eyes it's still an early threat also not Sigmund-early 04:47:59 although not* 04:48:52 !lg gammafunk recent kmap~~uniq s=cikiller 04:48:52 24 games for gammafunk (recent kmap~~uniq): 4x Natasha, 4x Grinder, 2x Jessica, 2x Terence, 2x Pikel, Blork, Nessos, Prince Ribbit, Nikola, Josephine, Erica, Rupert, Snorg, Grum, Erolcha 04:48:52 Joseph morelike Jokeseph not even top 10 get good with slings 04:49:01 there's a lot of just speedruns in that 04:49:10 grinder is everyone's favorites 04:49:12 favorite* 04:49:13 !lg . recent killer=uniq s=cikiller !gfspeed 04:49:14 9 games for gammafunk (recent killer=uniq !gfspeed): 3x Grinder, 2x Natasha, Josephine, Jessica, Erica, the player character 04:49:21 nice uniq 04:49:48 people play crawl differently anyhow 04:49:51 .splatratio JStrange 04:49:52 No games for JStrange (!gfspeed !boring xl>=17 recentish). 04:49:56 er 04:50:05 !lg JStrange recent 04:50:06 3. lordfrikk the Crack Shot (L18 CeHu of Okawaru), slain by a frost giant (a +1 battleaxe of freezing) (kmap: shoals_iceberg_rune) on Shoals:3 on 2016-05-16 00:26:01, with 212277 points after 45598 turns and 6:36:07. 04:50:13 I guess you play offline 04:50:26 !lg JStrange recentish 04:50:27 3. lordfrikk the Crack Shot (L18 CeHu of Okawaru), slain by a frost giant (a +1 battleaxe of freezing) (kmap: shoals_iceberg_rune) on Shoals:3 on 2016-05-16 00:26:01, with 212277 points after 45598 turns and 6:36:07. 04:50:44 I started playing 3 years ago then stopped now started again but internet in CHina is crap so until August or so it's offline for me 04:50:53 I'm not patient enough for tiles with the lag 04:51:04 -!- koboldina has joined ##crawl-dev 04:51:05 oh, was going to suggest cwz or lld 04:51:08 but yeah no console on those two 04:51:15 nor on cpo any longer 04:51:42 I thought the korean or japanese server will be alright but for some reason (I blame Chinese internet again) it's almost equally slow 04:51:48 otherwise I play on CDO 04:52:01 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 04:52:03 hrm, yeah I was just assuming they'd be faster 04:52:11 but indeed they might not depending on routing 04:52:33 but that shoals end vault is pretty frightening 04:52:38 didn't expect frost giants 04:52:46 it's perhaps a bit extreme 04:52:55 that vault got updated recently 04:53:00 for being too brutal 04:53:28 good riddance 04:54:01 but I can only blame myself, the lag online got the best of me so I just tabbed myself to death instead of kiting him 04:54:45 playing online is risky. I died to spectators recently ;) 04:54:46 lag makes playing a lot less fun, hence I've been using cjr 04:54:58 heh 04:55:07 (more accurately, died to not being able to manage own stress levels / tune spectators out) 04:55:12 yeah it does make it less fun 04:55:16 ??cjr 04:55:16 cjr[1/2]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks). SSH login info: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html. 04:55:45 honestly I thought using VPN might make it faster but not really 04:56:09 Perhaps some day someone will set up a chinese server 04:56:23 you still have to use your local pipes to reach better pipes out on the wider internet 04:56:26 not sure if any crawl content would offend government censorship there 04:56:36 skeletons 04:56:43 well I'm leaving in July and I can tell you wholeheartedly that one thing I will not miss is the crappy internet 04:56:46 food is good, though 04:57:22 human(oid?) skeletons get censored in china-WoW 04:57:54 -!- knu has quit [Quit: Reboot...] 04:58:00 they have a lot of weird restrictions, like I guess most people know about Google not being available 04:58:11 skeletons get censored? 04:58:15 but what about dropbox? pastebin? just random website don't work 04:58:22 i remember that 04:58:44 if those get censored I doubt crawl would survive chinese censorship at all 04:58:45 putting skeletons in a video game is considered disrespecting the ancestors or something 04:58:55 lol, yeah we'd be screwed then 04:59:10 can always play console 04:59:10 nobody censors Z 04:59:16 i worked on the german version of saints row 2 and they've got a ton of weird rules about that stuff too 04:59:17 hrm, that's true but they still exist in the game 04:59:19 chinese bureaucracy is a sight to behold, let me tell you 04:59:28