00:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:19 passwall being bumped down to level 2 wasn't really that much compensation 00:01:11 like IE still has ozo's, AE gets repel missiles and swiftness for an escape option, FE gets conjure flame for an escape option 00:01:14 or maybe an earth spell that could go in the book of dreams 00:01:23 book of dreams is cool, it needs love 00:01:40 passwall is an escape spell but one that requires the terrain to really be in your favor to work and leaves you helpless until it finishes 00:03:16 i actually really appreciated passwall being L2 for my GhEE 00:03:22 i used it way more that game than i had before 00:03:26 !log . ghee 00:03:27 2. amalloy, XL24 GhEE, T:61917: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/amalloy/morgue-amalloy-20160507-101823.txt 00:03:43 Passwall | | 4 | 17 | 22 | 13 | 7 | 4 | 16 || 83 00:03:48 frostbite spawned :toot: 00:04:03 how many times did you use it as an escape option? 00:04:05 tile looking good 00:04:22 many of those times 00:04:48 i don't know how many exactly, but you could watch the video and count it up 00:05:38 it's kind of weird that Earth magic doesn't have a way to bolster defenses outside of statue form anymore 00:06:05 -!- meatpath has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:57 not saying stoneskin should come back, but maybe some thematic replacement to improve early game survivability would be nice 00:09:13 add leda's liquefaction? :v 00:09:47 leda's slows down your movement as well though 00:10:00 and doesn't work on flying things 00:10:30 -!- dplusplus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:47 yes, but it slows you down less than slowing enemies iirc 00:10:50 Hi there 00:10:55 ??leda's 00:10:55 leda's liquefaction[1/2]: Level 4 earth/hexes spell, found in the book of the Earth. Generates a halo of "liquefied" ground around the caster. Moving on liquefied ground has a -3 player movement malus. Applies slow movement effect to monsters. Doesn't affect flying, clinging, insubstantials; cannot be cast by these. 00:10:57 so it's a bootleg swiftness 00:11:03 ??slow movement 00:11:03 I don't have a page labeled slow_movement in my learndb. 00:11:31 I think players get 3 auts and monsters get randomly 3 and 10 auts 00:11:35 *3 to 10 00:11:37 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:11:49 also gives you some defenses in melee 00:11:53 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:12:02 dplusplus: hello! 00:12:42 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:12:57 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 00:16:09 if that is true, Leda's being in the starting book would probably help a lot 00:19:22 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:47 insubstantial wisps got removed right 00:20:52 lol 00:20:57 no? 00:20:59 serious answer: you're thinking of vapours? 00:21:09 no 00:21:10 wisps 00:21:30 no, they're still i 00:21:31 n 00:21:38 hm 00:21:51 ??wisp 00:21:51 insubstantial wisp[1/1]: Insubstantial wisps are like a screaming monkey on your windshield, It's unlikely to kill you directly But all you can see is the monkey 00:22:18 oh no, I pinged The Snark 00:22:40 violated the sacred tag of willnotdo 00:23:25 why do insubstantial wisps exit 00:23:27 *exist 00:23:29 do they even do anything 00:24:00 butterflyize them. 00:24:04 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:24:04 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:24:20 Lightli: bother people 00:24:30 ??red devil 00:24:31 red devil[1/1]: Red, polearm-toting demons that tend to reside in gehenna and pan. A source of demon tridents (20% of the time). Have a neat trick where they will hop backwards, hitting you with their reaching weapon. 00:24:35 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:24:52 those also scream at your windshield 00:25:35 -!- Orphics has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:27:23 wisps have static discharge these days, iirc? 00:27:27 @??insubstantial wisp 00:27:27 insubstantial wisp (15v) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 16-23 | AC/EV: 4/18 | Dam: 1206(blink self) | 11non-living, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 162 | Sp: blink [06!sil], static discharge [06!sil] | Sz: tiny | Int: brainless. 00:27:30 they kinda scare me 00:27:33 mostly in d 00:32:26 no see red devils actually can be kind of dangerous 00:32:29 demon tridents hurt 00:32:40 by the time you see insubstantial wisps they're basically harmless 00:34:34 dplusplus: hi 00:42:25 random question 00:42:31 what is lightning bolt's to-hit chance 00:42:34 ??stone arrow 00:42:34 stone arrow[1/1]: A level 3 earth/conjuration spell. Found in the book of Geomancy, starting book for EEs. Does 3d11 dmg at max power. Does massive damage from ghosts for some reason. To-hit: 8+power/10. 00:42:39 ??lightning bolt 00:42:39 lightning bolt[1/2]: Level 5 conjurations/air spell. Extremely loud -- only a little quieter than Shatter -- but follows the same {bolt bouncing} rules as Shock. To-hit:7+power/40. 00:42:41 oh 00:42:43 hi, thanks for your email 00:42:58 > chequers 00:43:50 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:49:17 -!- Iceland has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:49:32 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:52:19 thanks for your investigation 00:52:35 In the past, other streaks have been griefed 00:52:40 This time might be a new griefer 00:52:50 Annoying 00:54:02 -!- vermi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:54:33 I'm think so, too 00:54:56 huh 00:54:58 !apt DE 00:54:58 DE: Fighting: -2*, Short: 0, Long: -1, Axes: -2, Maces: -3*, Polearms: -3*, Staves: 0, Slings: -2, Bows: 1, Xbows: -1, Throw: 0, Armour: -2, Dodge: 2, Stealth: 3, Shields: -2, UC: -2*, Splcast: 3!, Conj: 1, Hexes: 3, Charms: 4!, Summ: 1, Nec: 2!, Tloc: 1, Tmut: 1, Fire: 1, Ice: 1, Air: 0, Earth: 1, Poison: 1, Inv: 1, Evo: 1, Exp: -1, HP: -2, MP: 2! 00:55:07 why is DE only a 0 with Air 00:56:44 I have ip-banned the griefer, but I don't know when new griefer will appear 00:56:50 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 00:57:00 great 00:57:31 For popular players, we ask them to register their account on all servers, to stop griefers 00:58:55 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:42 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:12:48 !source minmay 01:12:49 Can't find minmay. 01:12:53 !source minqmay 01:12:55 Can't find minqmay. 01:13:17 -!- JStrane_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:13:28 is there a semi convenient way to browse that player's vaults? 01:14:39 developer, humanoid, crawler, codemonkey, whatever, if "player" is inaccurate :P 01:18:01 -!- NotKat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:18:23 git grep '^Name.*min.may' 01:18:56 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-78-g674c7a4 (34) 01:19:21 git grep -i '^name:.* minmay' 01:19:49 cool! 01:20:01 I now possess a giant list of file names 01:20:37 is there a transformative thing to make those all open in a text editor? 01:20:55 not really 01:21:59 well it still helps a lot, cheers! 01:27:17 ??big 01:27:17 sacrifice hand[1/1]: Worth 70 piety (slightly more if you had shields skill). 1) Your shield skill is 0 and you cannot wear a shield/use the offhand punch in uc (even formicids). 2) You cannot wield weapons that require two hands for your race (formicids can still use all weapons). 3) You lose one ring slot. 01:28:36 !source size_big 01:28:37 Can't find size_big. 01:29:00 !source size 01:29:01 1/27. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/bitary.h#l33 01:29:21 !source size 2 01:29:21 2/27. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/domino.h#l407 01:30:58 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:33:01 chequers, how do streaks work in this tourney? 01:33:10 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:33:14 because i'm really confused how yermak's streak is still "alive" 01:33:47 corrective action was applied to griefer interference 01:35:43 no 01:36:03 WalkerBoh: as per the rules page, the first game you start after winning a game is the streak-continuing game 01:36:23 so even if you lose games in between, it won't break your streak once you win the first game you started after? 01:36:32 correct 01:36:36 hm 01:36:55 i guess that's reasonable 01:37:04 i was under the impression that it would still break the streak after you won that last game 01:37:17 that it just counted them in the order that you started, instead of the order they ended 01:37:44 so you can have multiple parallel streaks in progress at once, basically 01:37:58 i'm not sure if the code fully supports that scenario, fwiw 01:38:12 well it explains yermak's situation anyways 01:38:15 thanks :) 01:38:19 I'm not sure anyone has fully tested the implications of this ruleset beyond 'yermak's streak wasn't broken' 01:38:35 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:38:42 to be fair, there's no obvious benefit to having multiple parallel streaks 01:38:52 instead of just focusing on lengthening the longest one 01:39:08 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:39:08 i haven't thought a lot, but I think the tourney streak logic is better overall 01:39:31 it's definitely better than the streak logic that akrasiac scoring pages use 01:39:37 the CAO scoring streak logic allows streakers to indefinitely pause a losing game and play elsewhere 01:39:54 and there's enough versions and servers that that's meaningful, yeah 01:40:05 -!- TonyMeatballs has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:40:27 we might copy the tourney logic in the new scoreboard 01:41:06 there's a new one in the works for CAO? 01:41:26 https://crawl.project357.org/scoreboard/players/WalkerBoh.html 01:41:53 that's not 'live' 01:42:01 oh that's pretty cool 01:42:53 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 01:43:03 good work man, i like that a lot 01:43:26 there's the man himself 01:43:33 the myth, the legend 01:44:01 anyway, we're hoping to stand something real up at the end of the tourney, but streak logic isn't like what we discussed and there are various other issues 01:44:03 so does it not go back all the way? 01:44:17 i notice my win count is missing about 40 games or so 01:44:23 that's using 0.15+ dataset, but the production version will use all publicly available logs 01:44:33 cool 01:44:42 i notice your streak logic doesn't include quits 01:44:44 ? 01:45:08 you mean, griefer quits? 01:45:20 ah, i wasn't sure if you differentiated 01:45:30 i just noticed makemeasandwich's streak was the real length 01:45:55 zxc wrote code to pick up most past griefs automatically, we can add to a manual blacklist the few that it misses 01:45:58 makemeasandwich's streak was 35 long but the 2nd game started before the 1st one ended 01:46:05 right 01:46:13 so that 2nd game isn't counted 01:46:18 i really like that sheet 01:46:21 the interface is 10x better 01:46:42 zxc did a lot of the visual work 01:46:42 more stats on the player page overview would be neat too, though i don't have any real suggestions for you 01:47:02 parsing milestones is 'far future todo' 01:47:34 what do you mean by that? things like "fastest rune"? 01:47:39 -!- schistosoma has joined ##crawl-dev 01:47:48 right 01:48:03 makes sense, i can see why that'd be much more difficult 01:48:17 logfiles = log data created when you finish a game, milestones = log data created at various milestones (eg rune, br.enter, etc) 01:48:33 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:35 yeah 01:49:06 and a lot more data 01:49:13 but yeah, it would be cool 01:50:10 it would also be pretty awesome to be able to sort/filter the wins table 01:50:33 chequers: WEB_SAVEDUMP_URL <-- do I change this or is this an official server that all servers dumps saves to? 01:52:23 Mattias: is that in dgl config? like the dgl management scripts from |amethyst? 01:52:32 chequers: dgl-manage.conf yes 01:52:46 WalkerBoh: added to the plan 01:52:57 awesome! 01:53:10 Mattias: i'm not 100% since I don't use that myself, but I believe it's per server, the base URL where morgues appear 01:53:16 that takes care of most of the stuff that the win tables currently provide on CAO 01:53:18 Mattias: https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/ 01:53:44 chequers: Just wondering since the documents doesn't tell you to change it 01:54:13 chequers: the address is: https://dobrazupa.org/saves 01:54:52 While the example for DGL_SERVER is: export DGL_SERVER=crawl.s-z.org 01:55:19 |amethyst: Do you know? 01:55:19 something for you to update in the docs then :) 01:55:28 chequers: Are you sure it is the morgues? 01:55:36 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-78-g674c7a4 01:55:45 I'll change to that then 01:56:01 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:41 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:15:40 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:18:00 Interesting, I'll add "Let's Encrypt" as an alternative to the automation 02:18:06 as an option that is 02:20:40 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:22:31 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:31 -!- Confucious has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:26:29 -!- Orphics has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:26:43 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:28:44 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:30:50 how come there are no records in Sequell that pertain to people dying in the dwarven halls? 02:35:26 did that ever exist? 02:35:33 nope 02:35:35 -!- irctc761 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:35:44 it existed in the "it was in the code" sense at one point, but never was implemented 02:42:02 -!- Arivia has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:42:41 -!- irctc516 has quit [Client Quit] 02:48:06 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:51:59 -!- schistosoma has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:52:09 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-78-g674c7a4 02:56:39 where would it be placed? 02:56:48 +have been 02:57:23 as far as I can tell, github markdown does not allow you to create a table of just cells - aka a table without headers 02:57:32 anyone know a workaround? 02:58:51 grandjackal (L15 MiFi) ASSERT(!cell_is_solid(ctarget)) in 'cloud.cc' at line 662 failed. (Volcano) 02:59:08 https://help.github.com/articles/organizing-information-with-tables/ 02:59:19 !source mon-pick-data.h 02:59:19 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-pick-data.h 02:59:52 what would cause an ugly thing to appear on D:6? just a really low chance for OOD? 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:18 probably just from a vault I bet. weird 03:01:53 ??ugly thing 03:01:53 ugly thing[1/1]: Their colour indicates what kind of damage they do, and resist; red is fire, white is cold, brown is acid, green is poison, cyan is electricity, and purple simply deals more physical damage. They can change their colour by being in proximity of their siblings/contaminated player, or by being polymorphed. 03:02:04 @??ugly thing 03:02:04 red ugly thing (05u) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 12 | HP: 53-75 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 1704(fire:12-23) | 10doors | Res: 06magic(40), 05fire, 04napalm | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 550 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 03:02:06 chequers: https://github.com/mattias/ansible_playbook_webtiles is the README understandable? :P I am not good at writing these things. 03:02:37 @??purple ugly thing 03:02:37 purple ugly thing (06u) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 12 | HP: 54-79 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 22 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(40) | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 553 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 03:03:02 -!- sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:03:08 chequers: Basically it goes up to the step right after finishing editing dgl-manage.conf now. halfway through :) 03:03:32 you seriously can set up a crawl server with 4 lines of code? 03:03:37 fixit_friend: of course ;) 03:03:43 I got a centaur on D:1 while testing 03:03:45 on turn 1400 or so 03:03:46 what sorcery 03:03:55 fixit_friend: it's not done yet though 03:04:10 But it'll hopefully help a lot of people who wants their own webtiles server 03:04:12 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:04:13 I'm gonna make 50 forks 03:04:14 with SSL and everything :D 03:04:34 and host them each on an old laptop 03:04:49 and make my ISP really, really angry 03:05:09 Mattias, how much of the dgl stuff is working? 03:05:10 4 lines to make a server, jesus, kids these days 03:05:44 johnstein: I've basically just followed the documentation exactly as written (and added the stuff missing.) haven't actually tried it yet since the configuration part isn't done yet. 03:06:01 how far down the wiki did you get? 03:06:10 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:06:16 i.e. does this even take care of setting up the apache redirects for the rebuild page? 03:06:19 I've finished configuring dgl-manage.conf, going to configure the rest next (step 9 I think) 03:06:27 johnstein: I plan to use nginx 03:06:33 (probably not since I don't think I ever updated that part) 03:06:47 I don't like apache ;) 03:06:57 I don't know enough about sysadmin to have an opinion 03:07:18 how do you edit the config.py and dgamelaunch.conf files? 03:07:34 johnstein: ansible, lineinfile module. regexp and replace line if it isn't what it should be 03:07:54 johnstein: https://github.com/mattias/ansible_playbook_webtiles/blob/master/playbooks/configure.yml 03:08:29 I guess I don't understand ansible 03:08:39 ansible is pure magic 03:08:43 sure 03:09:05 trying to think through how to update to a new version. has a lot of steps and files to create/edit 03:09:07 It's idempotent so you can run this several times without issues 03:09:31 johnstein: with_items and loop a module. maybe just say which versions you want and it'll loop 03:09:41 0.18 <-- done 03:09:44 still not following 03:09:57 a list of versions [ 0.18, git, 0.17 ] etc 03:10:22 That's the only configuration the end-user should have to know about 03:10:48 !apt exp 03:10:48 Exp: Hu: 1!, Fo: 1!, Ha: 1!, Ko: 1!, HO: 0, Og: 0, Mf: 0, Op: 0, Te: 0, Gh: 0, Na: 0, VS: 0, Gr: 0, Mi: -1, Mu: -1, Vp: -1, Sp: -1, DE: -1, Fe: -1, Ds: -1, Tr: -1, HE: -1, DD: -1, Dr: -1, Ce: -1, Dg: -2* 03:11:12 johnstein: I plan to add automatic digital ocean vps creation as well, so it'll happen automatically too. Only need to add the api token first to the configuration 03:12:20 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-78-g674c7a4 (34) 03:12:42 -!- FireSight has quit [] 03:12:55 for example, here's roughly the checklist for updating to a new version: http://pastebin.com/wSkFJbmr 03:13:40 johnstein: yeah, no problem. I write those "steps" once in ansible, and loop over the array of versions. 03:15:30 how do you get the files edited properly? 03:15:50 i.e. adding a new menu item in the dgamelaunch.conf in the right spots 03:16:04 johnstein: you have a few options, either you use "templates", "files" or just "lineinfile" which can updated a line in an existing file, which of course is idempotent 03:16:21 ??idempotent 03:16:22 I don't have a page labeled idempotent in my learndb. 03:16:25 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:16:28 (I know it's not in there) 03:16:50 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idempotence 03:17:33 Basically, it won't change something which doesn't have to be changed if it was already changed :P 03:18:02 I think I need to see a concrete example 03:18:06 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:18:16 is there a part in the existing code that adds a version already? 03:18:30 I was poking through files but I don't fully understand the architecture yet 03:18:37 Not yet, only at step 9 :) I'll let you know when I'm done with the entire documentation 03:18:47 I can't remember what step 9 is. 03:18:52 ??dgamelaunch[3 03:18:52 dgl[3/3]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:server:setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles 03:19:07 oh wait, I'm at step 8 -.- 03:19:45 definitely keep us updated. I can try to get dbro running it 03:20:32 I automate a lot of things here at work, this shouldn't be any issues. Just the documentation is hard to read and missing some info :) 03:21:01 i still think purgy should always drop a hide 03:21:02 along with the other 2 hide dropping uniques 03:21:05 it was missing more before I updated it when I set up cbro 03:21:05 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:21:07 (fr) 03:21:19 I have a lot of little text files that I should turn into gists 03:21:37 I do a lot of automation at work, but it's mostly python and shell scripts linking together our analysis tools 03:21:59 Yeah, I used to use shell scripts etc too. Ansible makes automation a lot easier and pretty much bug free 03:22:06 been wanting to automate the routine webtiles stuff for a while, but never had time 03:22:18 lofty claims! 03:22:22 ;) 03:23:04 in mon-spell.h, do monsters roll for the first spell in the list, then next, etc, or do they do some kind of combined roll? 03:23:11 johnstein: example for insertafter: - lineinfile: dest=/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf regexp="^Listen " insertafter="^#Listen " line="Listen 8080" 03:23:20 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:23:24 johnstein: insertbefore works too :) 03:24:10 but how do you know what to search for? 03:24:24 do you need to sprinkle some nice keywords in the file first? 03:24:38 let Mattias finish, then encourage bragging after it's done :P 03:24:45 No, I look at the clean file first 03:24:49 :P 03:24:57 I'm thinking of things like adding a new experimental version where it's not really clear where to make the update 03:25:06 heh 03:25:39 !crashlog grandjackal 03:25:39 I'm probably asking about too detailed workflows too early 03:25:40 1. grandjackal, XL15 MiFi, T:21563 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/grandjackal/crash-grandjackal-20160513-065838.txt 03:26:34 If you as a human know where to put stuff, ansible will know as well ;) 03:26:46 @??efreet 03:26:46 efreet (05R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 31-45 | AC/EV: 10/5 | Dam: 17 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, unholy, fly | Res: 06magic(20), 04fire+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 12cold, 12drown, 08holy++ | XP: 357 | Sp: b.fire (3d15) [06!sil], fireball (3d15) [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: human. 03:27:14 Mattias, well, what I meant is, when I add experimentals, I often tend to modify the grouping or remove old ones 03:27:44 I'll make it follow the order of the list of versions 03:27:46 so it could be different for each experimental 03:28:09 Or I'll use "templates" which might be better in this case 03:28:20 I'll know when I get there :) 03:28:28 well, the wiki doesn't describe it 03:28:35 ...how did an efreet get inside a wall... 03:28:38 I'll query you when the time comes 03:28:38 I need to update it with my files 03:28:42 yea definitely 03:28:48 good luck. you are doing Trog's work 03:29:01 but, but 03:29:07 Well, the important part is that it is fun ;) 03:29:13 Automation rocks 03:29:26 0819<Mattias> ansible is pure magic 03:29:34 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 03:29:36 how is that trog's work 03:29:50 Ansible, a new god in crawl perhaps? 03:30:04 Asomething 03:30:55 Anyways, back to work. More ansible during lunch. 03:31:01 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:32:24 in mon-spell.h, do monsters roll for the first spell in the list, then next, etc, or do they do some kind of combined roll? 03:32:52 -!- reaverb has quit [Client Quit] 03:33:12 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:34:28 i *believe* that the order doesn't matter 03:34:33 beyond that i'm not sure 03:35:07 okay, thanks 03:37:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:37:34 -!- glaas has quit [Client Quit] 03:38:03 how bad of a design would it be to use LCS as an _EMERGENCY spell? 03:38:33 like a DD that melees you, then attempts to blow you up when it's in danger 03:41:47 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:42:10 lcs as an emergency spell doesn't sound that different from e.g. banish as an emergency spell, which iirc already exists. 03:42:12 however, 03:42:14 dd as monsters are bad 03:42:37 do any monsters have damage shaving? 03:43:48 idk 03:43:51 maybe jorgrun? 03:43:54 hm, fair enough. I still am not certain I understand damage shaving. it looks much less powerful on the wiki than it seems to be in practice 03:44:30 it's just an additional, small AC die basically? making AC much more consistent? 03:45:05 @??jorgrun 03:45:05 Jorgrun (13g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 100-140 | AC/EV: 4/15 | Dam: 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(120) | XP: 3204 | Sp: rapid deconstruction, petrify, shatter, dig | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 03:47:16 it applies to more things than ac 03:47:32 and it's equivalent to a substantial amount of ac, iirc 03:47:59 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:48:01 probably similar to gargoyle ac, but without their frail 03:48:16 Roof collapse traps efreet in wall 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10413 by PleasingFungus 03:48:24 damage shaving is one of my favorite things 03:48:30 dunno why 03:48:44 Mattias: nice! 03:48:57 Mattias: i'll sit down and have a proper play in a few weeks, bit busy until then 03:49:07 -!- broquaint has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:49:07 when I was playing around with making some potions, my potion of grog confused you, gave you a might effect, and damage shaving. it was silly and not a very good potion 03:49:33 I even got the screen to be tinted yellow/brownish and had an *INTOX* status effect. I was very proud of myself 03:49:35 potion of grog, potion of trog (berserk), potion of log (treeform) 03:49:44 potion of bog (slow, RIP) 03:49:50 potion of bog = instant leda 03:49:53 hah 03:50:04 and gives youswimming 03:50:05 potion of eggnog (grog, but only around christmastime!) 03:50:06 potion of dog? 03:50:09 ooh 03:50:13 what's that one do 03:50:18 koboldform? 03:50:23 could work 03:50:25 make you into a pack of jackals 03:50:45 that'd be potion of dogs I guess 03:51:01 dang 03:51:05 potion of fog... guess what it does 03:51:09 potion of hog 03:51:25 oh. potion of jog = haste obviously 03:51:28 nice 03:51:50 potion of smog (temporarily grants you the effict of Ds fart gas mut) 03:52:07 potion of smaug, too 03:52:51 -!- TonyMeatballs_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:53:09 potion of flog - ouch! that really hurt!!! 03:54:25 pot of nog - tele to Quark's Bar 03:54:55 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 03:56:23 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:04:19 -!- sneakyness has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 04:04:59 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 04:11:25 very funny 04:11:29 i have 4 rN rings on d:4 04:11:39 and am not even an octopode 04:21:16 ^vps 04:21:16 CBRO disk usage=61% | RAM usage=18% | uptime/CPU= 04:21:14 up 546 days, 13:40, 2 users, load average: 0.55, 0.48, 0.57 04:22:07 !source pop_entry 04:22:08 Can't find pop_entry. 04:22:21 !source pop_d 04:22:21 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-pick-data.h#l1 04:22:34 ok, it seems weird that you can't use black drac breath while confused 04:22:38 it's not like you can aim it anyway 04:23:51 ??tournament 04:23:51 tournament[1/5]: The 0.18 tournament until 20:00 UTC May 22. Rules: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/ Leaderboard: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/overview.html (not done yet!) 04:24:57 what's the struct for mon_pick? 04:25:49 looks like min depth, max depth, some kind of weight, then the hard part: semi/peak/flat 04:30:31 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:31:17 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:31:34 sorry, for mon-pick-data 04:32:09 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:34:30 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:38:39 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:42:25 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:43:43 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:51:54 =nemelex VSCj 04:51:57 Defined keyword: nchoice => OgAE|GhEE|huen|FoIE|DDSu|DEAM|VpVM|KoMo|OpSk|MfFE|HEEn|MuEE|sphu|TeTm|HaWz|CeNe|FeWr|CeAr|VSCj 04:58:19 -!- Sonata is now known as Flappity 05:00:11 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:07:50 huh, i finally am diving into dcss's dungeon generation stuff. no idea what i'm doing, but it's fun nonetheless 05:08:46 whatcha makin? can I peek at it? 05:09:08 i started by learning how vaults are made 05:09:33 and now i'm looking into some of the stuf in des/builder 05:11:40 -!- owl has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:11:55 what is hyper^3? I'm guessing that's just some of the framework they wrote for versatile generation of various dungeon types? 05:14:11 not sure friend. I'm just making monsters :D 05:15:18 how's this necromancer spell set for an Elf-tier or slightly later than Elf monster? 05:15:36 { SPELL_CONTROL_UNDEAD, 15, MON_SPELL_WIZARD }, { SPELL_BOLT_OF_COLD, 20, MON_SPELL_WIZARD }, 05:15:36 { SPELL_VAMPIRIC_DRAINING, 30, MON_SPELL_WIZARD }, { SPELL_HAUNT, 15, MON_SPELL_WIZARD }, 05:19:59 -!- owl has joined ##crawl-dev 05:22:01 i don't know any of the languages any of this stuff is written in D: 05:22:13 but i'm SORT OF seeing how stuff is put together.. 05:22:25 hehe, yep 05:23:24 working on a personal project and ive been browsing through various open source things, incursion and dcss have given me the most insight so far i think 05:23:38 the hard part is syntax. sometimes you want player_species, sometimes you want you.species, and there's no way to guess when you're gonna need the "you." prefix 05:24:15 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:24:35 although i've been told dcss is NOT an example of good code 05:24:41 or clean code maybe 05:24:44 i forget what they said 05:25:16 i feel like i want to contribute but i wouldn't know where to even start :P 05:25:22 for good, readable, efficient code you have to look at single-developer projects 05:25:29 * Flappity nods 05:26:00 like Brogue! I learned a bit about C++ from messing with brogue, and that carried over here somewhat 05:26:06 i'm all python 05:26:13 that dude can comment. 05:26:26 i actually didnt look thru brogue too much 05:26:26 hmm 05:26:32 well, i vaguely remember it in the past 05:26:58 I've tried to be good with my commenting D: 05:27:39 I would like to make them sound less.. i dunno the word 05:28:41