00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:03 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-55-g7e720b0 (34) 00:00:06 !lg amalloy word won s=char 00:00:07 2 games for amalloy (word won): GhEE, TrAM 00:00:14 !nemelex choice 00:00:18 do you want to know SOmething i just won! 00:00:20 !nchoice 00:00:25 DDSu: 0 wins || WalkerBoh: CAO, L10 Cleaver of Makhleb || tabstorm: CBRO, L8 Chopper of Makhleb || nikheizen: CAO, L7 Cudgeler of Pakellas || hercules: CJR, L6 Caller of Makhleb || zkyp: CXC, L6 Chopper of No God 00:00:30 prob gonna win again a couple times 00:00:41 does your clan have a cool acronym 00:00:43 ddsu... what a buncha suckers 00:00:49 i never won a dd and never will 00:00:59 !heretic tw12we 00:01:00 twelwe is a heretic 00:01:14 Stable (0.18) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18.1-2-ga659475 00:01:21 !abyss tw12we 00:01:43 !learn add amalloy_todo The giant eyeball view fixates on you. 00:01:43 amalloy todo[8/8]: The giant eyeball view fixates on you. 00:03:38 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest29591 00:04:26 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:04:35 well, I have to go, but if someone can test geekosaur's 0.18.1 os x builds when those have finished uploaded and let me know if they're good, I can put them on the download page tomorrow 00:04:44 *uploading 00:06:20 still uploading, looks like 00:06:35 given the packet loss I'm seeing, may well not be up until tomorrow anyway 00:07:02 * geekosaur tempted to screenshot mtr just to demonstrate what it's like around here... 00:07:29 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:07:33 -!- Mekire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:07:48 -!- Guest29591 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:07:49 except then I'd have to upload that to dropnbox and itt'll arrive sometime tomorrow >.> 00:08:06 suffice it to say, it's full of question marks 00:08:39 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-55-g7e720b0 (34) 00:08:49 !tell johnstein The user atrika is spamming large text bombs in chat on cbro 00:08:50 gammafunk: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 00:09:06 we might need to make a message limit, but that would have to be done on the webtiles side to be effective 00:09:19 what's that mean? 00:09:19 johnstein: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:09:44 johnstein: pasting ". . . . ." but *very* long 00:09:56 and it kind of freezes the browser/client a bit while it processes 00:09:59 to what end? 00:10:04 to annoy, I think 00:10:14 every time it's done the client freezes up a bit 00:10:21 on other people's games? 00:10:28 and it's a big wall of text in chat; I'm not super sure 00:10:29 yeah 00:10:36 this was in tabstorm's games 00:10:38 *game 00:10:45 if you are in there let him know if I see it he's banned 00:11:05 will do; tabstorm refreshed to get rid of this person and they haven't come back yet 00:11:51 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:11:53 But we should probably look on just setting a simple message limit on a single message, wouldn't prevent all "attacks" like this but would prevent that one 00:12:00 agreed 00:13:16 johnstein: atrika just rejoined tabstorm's chat 00:13:26 no messages as of yet though 00:14:59 also set a limit on fungi 00:15:14 johnstein: just did the text bomb again 00:15:20 I'm having a late dinner then going to play a game with my daughter. so feel free to warn him 00:15:31 will do, thanks for looking at it 00:15:45 I won't be near my computer to do anything about it for a bit 00:16:04 hrm, my client seems to have frozen completely 00:19:05 hrm, this seems fairly bad, since it's freezing my client 00:20:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-56-g73482a9: Avoid a few more accesses to dead c_strs. 10(15 minutes ago, 3 files, 11+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/73482a969664 00:20:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-57-g300684c: Avoid a few pointless calls to string::c_str. 10(14 minutes ago, 7 files, 7+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/300684c1254d 00:20:24 before it was just a 1-2 second freeze, now it's crashing my browser tab by having it churn 00:20:24 until I just kill it 00:20:44 i wonder how many of these c_str()s are mine 00:20:56 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:10 gammeI joined the game and it instantly froze my browser 00:21:19 johnstein: yes 00:21:20 Hi, someone is freezing my game by spamming the chat 00:21:21 oh 00:21:22 wow, the whole browser? 00:21:23 my pc is still reeling even after closing it 00:21:24 oh 00:21:31 he's basically turned it into a DOS attack 00:21:38 yeah my firefox is screwed up rn 00:21:51 my chrome is fine if I close the tab 00:21:53 tabstorm, gammafunk filled me in. my pc is all frozen too 00:22:12 but if I leave it the cpu is churning on that page 00:22:13 hmm 00:22:22 next stop bug arch dev about the substandard stone-soup package 00:22:35 tabstorm: you could disable the chat element maybe 00:22:44 How?? 00:22:45 bladders 00:22:54 dev tools in your browser 00:23:03 Can't you just ban the guy spamming it 00:23:07 Or is he already proxying 00:23:12 yeah eventually we can I'm sure but 00:23:28 |amethyst: out of curiousity how did you find those c_tr calls? jsut search for c_str and audit all of them for correctness, or something more clever? 00:23:33 looking at the logs now 00:23:37 welp. can't get a checkout here, dies randomly in the submodules. I'll see if the notwork is slightly less trashed tomorrow 00:24:01 might just be a new dreemurr name or smth 00:24:32 tabstorm: if you do want to play, it's probably either disable that html or use console 00:24:46 -!- yesno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:24:47 Well, I can't really get into my browser at the moment, so I guess I have to restart 00:24:56 let me see if I can even disable the chat 00:25:02 <|amethyst> amalloy: for /\.c-str();/ 00:25:32 <|amethyst> amalloy: but, yeah, manual inspection 00:26:26 random question: what determines VS bite damage 00:26:31 !lg popbob 00:26:32 1499. popbob the Thaumaturge (L10 GrEE of Vehumet), slain by an eight-headed hydra on Lair:1 (serial_bayou_ford_a) on 2016-05-08 03:53:53, with 6027 points after 11628 turns and 0:40:12. 00:26:36 or rather what is it based off of, XL? 00:26:40 he always immediately goes to watch popbob 00:26:52 lightli: I think it does up to some fixed amount 00:26:58 and the proc rate is str+dex>50 00:26:58 ??bite 00:26:59 bite[1/1]: An {auxiliary unarmed} attack you can get if you have sharp teeth or fangs. Damage is (fang mutation level * 2) + ((strength-10) / 5, randomly rounded). If you have less than 10 str, it's just (fang mutation level * 2). For VS, it instead is fangs level * 2 + XL * 1/3 00:27:05 yeah popbob was also in the chat iirc 00:27:11 wait, who runs cbro 00:27:11 I'm able to just delete the chat element 00:27:15 johnstein does 00:27:23 Oh 00:27:27 How long does it take to ip banthe guy 00:27:28 but I'm not sure if that would prevent the attack 00:27:47 Isn't it just the chat spam doing it 00:28:02 yes but his chat messages will still go to server and still come to you 00:28:13 so it depends on what exactly causes the freeze 00:28:16 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:28:20 is it only when rendering? or is it sending also 00:28:30 I think webtiles is fine with the transmissions so hopefully 00:28:34 it's only the rendering of the text 00:28:35 Oh 00:28:36 where do I ipban? 00:28:40 I don't know 00:28:44 in which case deleting the element might work 00:28:56 johnstein: I think you'd have to do a firewall rule in your AWS instance? 00:29:02 Why do we have so many more idiots recently who do this kind of thing 00:29:02 johnstein, I don't think dgl does ipban, and ... that, yes 00:29:03 AWS? 00:29:11 firewall is where you do these things, not the app 00:29:14 er your VPS I guess 00:29:15 <|amethyst> probably something like /sbin/iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --src 99.99.99.99 -j DROP 00:29:17 -!- kebabs has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:27 <|amethyst> or at the firewall, yeah 00:29:28 whatever machine or simulacrum thereof is running dgl 00:29:49 -!- simmarine__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:30:00 -!- simmarine__ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:01 I don't have time to do this right now. I know it's urgent. I'll be back in 30 00:30:10 well I'm just going to restart and try again anyway 00:30:20 -!- tabstorm has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:30:40 * geekosaur is having yet another ~people~ moment. sigh 00:31:11 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:31:24 why can monster black dracs not fly? 00:32:48 <|amethyst> can't they? 00:32:51 <|amethyst> they have M_FLIES 00:33:13 <|amethyst> oh, I guess this is probably a classed black drac? 00:34:33 do rakasha still split? 00:34:43 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:34:45 maybe i'm just unlucky 00:35:07 rakshasa (08R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 54-77 | AC/EV: 8/14 | Dam: 20 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140), 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 993 | Sp: mystic blast (3d16) [06!sil], phantom mirror [06!sil], blink [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:35:07 %??rakshasa 00:35:26 that looks like no? 00:35:34 ??rakshasa 00:35:34 rakshasa[1/5]: These demonic spellcasters cast IMB, phantom mirror (see [2]), and clone themselves at low health. 00:35:48 phantom mirror, so I guess they still do 00:36:01 I thought that was for cloning something else (you) 00:36:06 ??rakshasa[2 00:36:06 rakshasa[2/5]: Their phantom mirror spell (not to be confused with the {phantom mirror} item) clones a selected allied creature, randomly swapping the clone and original to disguise which is real and which is fake. 00:36:16 oh, guess not 00:36:18 changed also 00:36:22 ??rakshasa[3 00:36:22 rakshasa[3/5]: You could see 5 the Enchantress, a rakshasa and a friendly fire elemental. !log gorice hucj depths 1 00:37:01 <|amethyst> amalloy: looks like monster::airborne and monster_info::monster_info use mons_base_type() which doesn't actually return the base_monster of a classed drac 00:38:04 <|amethyst> amalloy: actually, the problem in monster_info::monster_info is slightly different 00:38:27 <|amethyst> amalloy: it looks like that one uses MONS_DRACONIAN as the base type, rather than the species 00:42:17 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:42:48 bug: As a DD^Pak, when putting on "Guardian Spirit:" Now linked to your health, your magic stops regenerating." 00:43:33 less of a bug and more of a the dev team doesn't think of everything I guess 00:43:45 * geekosaur will guess that goes in the same bin as rPois rings reporting on Gr 00:44:11 (which has been stated to be NOTABUG although I think not all the devs agree about that?) 00:44:44 the real bug is that guardian spirit stops DD from regenerating magic in the first place 00:45:06 Agreed! Surprisingly. 00:45:51 latest checkout attempt which I was going to leave overnight seems to actually be proceeding, albeit slowly 00:50:12 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Client Quit] 00:52:15 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:55:49 Why does spirit stop DD magic regen 00:57:01 I think so a DD can't use it to hack around lack of regen by redirecting part of attacks to something that does regen? 00:57:40 no 00:57:48 GS would be very good on DD if it didn't stop MP regen, yes 00:57:54 spirit stops DD magic regen because a dev thought it would be too good in combination with damage shaving 00:57:58 whether it would be too good is another question 00:58:07 that is why spirit does not stop magic regen for characters that mutate slow healing 3 00:58:35 I'm serious, you can find a commit message about this 00:58:36 minmay: it doesn't? that sounds like a bug to me 00:58:55 it doesn't, it's been reported as a bug, fixed, and then promptly reverted, for the exact reason I mentioned 00:59:05 I would certainly have expected it to work the same way for any char with slow healing 3 mut, including DD 01:00:01 <|amethyst> %git a85cdc730 01:00:02 07dolorous02 * 0.11-a0-1597-ga85cdc7: Revert "Generalize spirit shield check for slow healing 3, not just deep dwarves." 10(4 years ago, 2 files, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a85cdc730ae0 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:07 <|amethyst> %git 00b32db7d 01:00:07 07dolorous02 * 0.11-a0-1573-g00b32db: Generalize spirit shield check for slow healing 3, not just deep dwarves. 10(4 years ago, 2 files, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/00b32db7dd49 01:00:12 thanks 01:00:17 <|amethyst> %git ab3ea043 01:00:17 07due02 * 0.6.0-a1-1010-gab3ea04: Stop Deep Dwarf MP from regenerating with spirit shield. 10(6 years ago, 4 files, 19+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab3ea04380fd 01:00:38 I think my favourite part of that debacle is how ambiguous the original comment is 01:03:31 oy 01:06:01 -!- gr has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:10 -!- Grammus has quit [Disconnected by services] 01:06:16 -!- gr is now known as grammus 01:06:46 ha makes me never want to play crawl again 01:07:15 ha ha? 01:07:27 they're not even like, bad, they're just 01:07:30 so unpleasant 01:07:37 slings. hooray 01:08:11 are we finally going to see the ha/ko merge...? 01:08:13 halflings are good IMO 01:08:39 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-57-g300684c (34) 01:08:45 CanOfWorms: people were talking about jut removing ha 01:08:47 *just 01:08:54 heh 01:08:58 damn qw died on d:4 of an orb run 01:09:04 since, like: what is interesting about ha that needs to be preserved? 01:09:23 PleasingFungus: it is a small species that is good at melee 01:09:25 !lm qw 01:09:26 21423. [2016-05-08 05:09:10] qw the Executioner (L17 GrBe of Trog) found a gossamer rune of Zot on turn 28836. (Spider:4) 01:09:39 !lg qw 01:09:40 1947. qw the Severer (L10 MiBe of Trog), succumbed to a killer bee's poison on D:8 on 2016-05-08 04:37:54, with 4825 points after 7373 turns and 0:05:49. 01:09:50 elliptic: i reiterate, 01:09:51 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/qw/morgue-qw-20160508-035318.txt 01:10:06 Pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18.1-2-ga659475 (34) 01:10:13 PleasingFungus: ?? 01:10:13 oops 01:10:18 lol 01:10:20 good sequell 01:10:21 ha is the new md? 01:10:30 i'm too salty about that last death to have a serious conversation right now 01:11:13 !lg pleasingfungus 01:11:13 ha removal is relatively serious tho, or seemed like it 01:11:13 441. pleasingfungus the Corrupter of Planes (L17 HaAK of Lugonu), shot by a naga sharpshooter (bolt) (led by Vashnia) on Snake:3 on 2016-05-08 05:06:20, with 111140 points after 32315 turns and 2:08:40. 01:11:22 shouldn't have been in snake in the first place, tbh 01:11:26 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 01:11:28 that was a fucked-up level 01:11:32 vashnia, asterion, mara 01:11:36 Mega Hell Floor 01:11:57 btw looks like it did finally check out and I have 0.17.2 console building 01:12:08 it's also after 0100 here so I should really go to bed... 01:12:13 my mistake was trying to fight literally anything at all there, and also, playing ha 01:12:39 I like playing ha :v 01:13:40 IMO the correct response to splatting a halfling slinger is to talk about removing slings, not about removing halflings :P 01:14:12 Why Not Both 01:14:53 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:14:55 !nchoice 01:15:00 DDSu: 0 wins || tabstorm: CBRO, L18 Executioner of Makhleb || WalkerBoh: CAO, L17 Peltast of Makhleb || nikheizen: CAO, L14 Grand Gadgeteer of Pakellas || WhiteShark: CAO, L8 Cleaver of Makhleb || hercules: CJR, L4 Caller of Makhleb 01:15:53 <|amethyst> elliptic: what makes halflings better at melee than kobolds? 01:16:33 |amethyst: better apts and higher dex 01:17:08 er 01:17:10 1 armour vs -3 armour? 01:17:11 they start with lower dex 01:17:14 or was it -2 01:17:22 !apt armour 01:17:22 Armour: Mi: 2!, Fo: 1, Gr: 1, DD: 1, HO: 1, Te: 1, Ha: 1, Fe: N/A, Op: N/A, Dr: N/A, Hu: 0, Gh: -1, Dg: -1, Ds: -1, HE: -1, VS: -2, Vp: -2, Na: -2, Mu: -2, Ko: -2, DE: -2, Og: -2, Tr: -2, Sp: -3*, Ce: -3*, Mf: -3* 01:17:23 and end up with the same dex at level 27 01:17:31 <|amethyst> elliptic: are long blades that much better than maces? 01:17:44 <|amethyst> I guess if you're stuck with one hand 01:17:46 PleasingFungus: hm? half of kobold levelups go to strength 01:17:46 ha also has -1 HP vs -2 for kobold 01:17:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:17:53 !sid 01:17:55 elliptic: you are out of date 01:17:57 er 01:17:59 ??sid 01:17:59 stat gain[2/2]: Ce sd/4 | DD si/4 | DE i/4 | Dg choose2/3 | Dr sid/4 | Ds sid/4 | Fe id/5 | Fo si/4 | Gh s/5 | Gr si/4 | Ha d/5 | HE id/3 | HO s/5 | Hu sid/4 | Ko sd/5 | Mf sid/5 | Mi sd/4 | Mu sid/5 | Na sid/4 | Og s/3 | Op sid/5 | Sp id/5 | Te sid/4 | Tr s/3 | Vp id/5 | VS sd/4 01:17:59 ??sid 01:17:59 stat gain[2/2]: Ce sd/4 | DD si/4 | DE i/4 | Dg choose2/3 | Dr sid/4 | Ds sid/4 | Fe id/5 | Fo si/4 | Gh s/5 | Gr si/4 | Ha d/5 | HE id/3 | HO s/5 | Hu sid/4 | Ko sd/5 | Mf sid/5 | Mi sd/4 | Mu sid/5 | Na sid/4 | Og s/3 | Op sid/5 | Sp id/5 | Te sid/4 | Tr s/3 | Vp id/5 | VS sd/4 01:18:09 !stats hafi 01:18:09 is learndb out of date then? 01:18:12 Starting stats for HaFi: Str 16 Int 7 Dex 13. Stat gain: d/5 01:18:17 !stats kofi 01:18:18 Starting stats for KoFi: Str 14 Int 6 Dex 15. Stat gain: sd/5 01:18:26 compare, contrast, etc 01:18:48 oh, they have 2 more dex to start? okay then 01:18:56 I guess I vaguely remember that changing 01:19:16 |amethyst: it is more the armour and shield apts 01:19:34 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-57-g300684c (34) 01:19:52 halfings usually end up with pretty great defenses 01:20:04 yeah, mine certainly had good defenses 01:20:06 pity about the offense 01:20:49 anyway I certainly agree that halflings and kobolds are similar in some ways, but kobolds are a lot squishier 01:22:38 I would not mind removing halflings if kobold defenses were buffed a bit (raise all of HP/armour/shield apts by 1 or something like that) 01:23:55 -!- Chris7 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:24:29 i feel like the more interesting question about ha/ko is, like 01:24:41 about size-based weapon restrictions 01:24:54 i had a good line about this earlier... 01:25:15 whaaaat is this fantastic vault http://i.imgur.com/2zkQREA.png 01:25:22 it's not the size that matters, it's how you use it? 01:25:51 fwiw, circus animals gave perma-evolve to those ugly kobolds, ant rmut to the harflins 01:26:01 halflings have rmut. 01:26:13 sorry, wild magic 01:26:52 my line was about how ideally, weapon size restrictions & change in handedness by size would make the game more interesting by giving a fresh angle on weapons - making them useful in different contexts 01:27:08 but i'm not sure it really does that 01:28:08 PleasingFungus: I don't find weapon size stuff that interesting either... the thing I like about small races is that they make significantly better use of dodging/shields than normal-size species 01:28:48 where by shields I mean bucklers really 01:28:51 <|amethyst> friendfixit: re that vault, it look slike this one 01:28:52 haha 01:28:58 <|amethyst> !vault wad_woods_settlement 01:28:58 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des#l1036 01:29:03 21 shield skill for 'shield' sized shields is kind of a pain 01:29:06 though halflings do tend to use regular shields 01:29:10 they have a good apt! 01:29:19 yeah, i figured i'd get to it eventually 01:29:20 also you don't need the full amount 01:29:22 but still, 21 skill... 01:29:27 yeah, it isn't a priority 01:29:49 -!- Chris7 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:29:54 but I like the fact that your first buckler is actually a really nice find on small species 01:30:45 !testsh 3 01:30:46 6.666666666666667 01:31:14 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:31:38 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:31:58 <|amethyst> I was going through ##crawl-dev logs 01:32:15 <|amethyst> and I can't find anything about the revert of the Slow Heal 3 + spirit thing 01:32:32 <|amethyst> not that dolorous was in-channel at that point anyway 01:32:59 <|amethyst> but I figured someone said something to convince him to revert the change after one day 01:35:19 -!- Chris7 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:36:56 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:38:40 -!- BanMido_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:44:25 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:45:03 -!- Svalin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:45:29 -!- kidkraken has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:45:55 -!- Mekire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:48:44 -!- BanMido_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:50:37 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:55:28 so did that guy get banned from cbro 01:55:31 he just sort of disappeared 01:55:46 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-57-g300684c 01:55:58 and didn't try to freeze my game again 01:56:01 can bindkey not be used to call a ===macro? I'm not having any luck 01:56:03 -!- raskol` has quit [Quit: quit] 01:57:08 !lg * x=max(length(name)) 01:57:13 5571439 games for *: max(length(name))=20 01:57:33 !lg * s=length(name) -graph 01:57:39 5571442 games for *: https://shalott.org/graphs/acf245930536d301e98c8bf0ad31363eae5e2765.html 01:58:00 uh 01:58:28 something up with Cigotuvi's Embrace 01:58:31 " Violently mutilates all nearby corpses, wrapping them around the caster to serve as both armour and shield. As it takes hits, the carrion will gradually fall away, faster and faster as more is piled on, though increased power will tighten its grasp on the caster's body. It has no effect on casters in Statue Form, or with Stoneskin or Ozocubu's Armour active." 01:58:49 Didn't Stoneskin get removed, or was that reverted when I wasn't looking? 01:59:17 out of date desc 01:59:33 yeah 01:59:37 i mentioned that, uh, yesterday? 01:59:41 oh 01:59:43 i have it fixed in a branch that also changes other stuff 01:59:50 I'm falling further behind into the past 01:59:59 actual question 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:07 what forms does Cigotuvi's Embrace work with 02:00:31 -!- simmarine__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:01:35 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:01:46 tabstorm, I just got back. I haven't seen him log back in (in the log file) 02:02:53 Lightli: everything but statue form, probably 02:03:02 i forget why it doesn't work with statue form 02:03:03 dang tabstorm, you won ddsu already? i just finished foie 02:04:00 !!!do not quaf un-ID'd potons next to gastronok they might be flight!!! 02:04:19 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest24826 02:04:47 i'm pleased to be in such company, though. just me, tabstorm, and yermak have won two different nchoices. i don't imagine i will *stay* in the list of top nchoice performers, since i am exhausted now, but i'm proud to be up there 02:08:47 -!- Guest24826 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:08:58 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:10:15 I'm just glad to have won 1, I hadn't before 02:10:25 amalloy: i play fast 02:10:43 no kidding. 5 wins already 02:10:46 also i had good rng... I found a +10 plate, acquired an exec, and found slaying rings and early elec borad axe etc. 02:10:55 I should have 6 but I died retardedly in V:5 on a vsmo 02:10:58 i usually play a game over the course of a week or two 02:11:10 his ip is banned for now. not sure when I'll unban 02:11:10 two in two days is hard 02:11:16 Not much thought is needed for heavy armor melee 02:11:16 !lm atrika 02:11:17 32. [2014-11-22 06:26:25] Atrika the Bludgeoner (L12 MiBe of Trog) killed the ghost of Speleothing the Destroyer, a powerful HEWz of Sif Muna on turn 10864. (Lair:2) 02:11:29 !lm atrika s=src 02:11:30 32 milestones for atrika: 21x cszo, 11x cao 02:11:54 You just hold down the buttons till you win 02:11:55 bindkey = [^m] ===set_target_skill isn't working, and I don't know whether that's becaues bindkey isn't allowed to do that, or whether it's because my function is missing a brace or looked at the compiler funny or whatnot 02:11:56 apparently he text bombed a couple other players 02:12:13 its probably just an alt name of dreemurr 02:12:15 one of which was my brother. 02:12:28 (the guy who was griefing on cszo) 02:12:36 yea 02:12:54 amalloy: Win DEAM so I can playy the next one that is hopefully not AM or En :) 02:13:02 noooooo 02:13:18 I refuse to play those two 02:13:18 no more crawl for me today 02:13:20 backgrounds, that is 02:13:20 could compare IPs if needed I guess 02:13:21 Stable (0.18) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18.1-2-ga659475 02:13:30 No hurry, I'm sure it's not going to be won any time soon 02:13:40 !hs * t deam 02:13:41 5. shinino the Vexing (L3 DEAM of Cheibriados), slain by a gnoll (a +0 spear) on D:2 on 2016-05-06 23:26:57, with 44 points after 912 turns and 0:05:52. 02:13:43 really? every DE is ez 02:13:50 !hs . de-- 02:13:50 8. johnstein the Pyromancer (L20 DEWz of Sif Muna), blasted by Jory (crystal spear) on Vaults:2 (minmay_crypt_entry_necro_gods) on 2013-12-31 06:39:08, with 332825 points after 77073 turns and 18:38:08. 02:13:58 !lg . won 1 02:14:16 that was a bullshit death too. my 4% firestorm kept failing. 02:14:17 1/54. amalloy the Sorcerer (L26 DEFE of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-08-24 07:58:17, with 1529992 points after 85337 turns and 1d+3:12:01. 02:14:37 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:16:19 dang 02:16:26 training magic.. there's your problem! 02:20:22 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:21:40 -!- tw12we has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:21:40 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:25:20 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 02:44:21 -!- BanMido__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:44:21 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:44:52 -!- BanMido_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:47:35 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:52:27 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Quit: Evablue_] 02:52:36 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest11880 02:53:54 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-57-g300684c 02:55:46 what is the &m syntax for creating a monster that spams word of recall? 02:56:21 spells:word_of_recall.200.magical 02:56:25 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:56:37 @??goblin spells:word_of_recall.200.magical 02:56:37 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 3-5 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 1 | Sp: w.recall [06!sil] | Sz: small | Int: human. 02:58:16 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:58:44 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:29 thanks 03:02:18 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:04:36 gammafunk: interestingly that doesn't work for word of recall. goblins refuse to cast it. dunno if it's Breath related or what 03:06:24 <|amethyst> amalloy: works for me 03:06:29 really? 03:06:33 weird 03:06:40 <|amethyst> amalloy: do you have high-HD monsters nearby? 03:06:49 <|amethyst> !source _should_recall 03:06:50 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc#l2236 03:06:55 aha, interesting 03:08:10 yes, killing all nearby monsters did it 03:12:46 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:13:05 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:13:58 do archmagi robe or wild magic allow you to go over the 200 spower cap? 03:14:06 <|amethyst> no 03:14:11 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-57-g300684c (34) 03:14:18 <|amethyst> they allow you to reach the 200 spell power cap 03:14:24 <|amethyst> ??200 power 03:14:24 200 power[1/1]: With all skills at 27, you need 3 enhancers and 33 INT, or 2 enhancers and 50 INT, or 1 enhancer and 75 INT, or no enhancers and 112 INT. Four enhancers don't give an effect better than three, but three enhancers plus Wild Magic or Augmentation do. 03:15:35 |amethyst: what is our policy on backporting bugfixes to previous releases? like that c_str issue was found in someone's 0.17.1 game; is it going to be ported to 0.18? to 0.17? or just trunk? 03:16:16 <|amethyst> amalloy: probably should go into 0.18 03:16:36 <|amethyst> amalloy: since we already did a 0.17.2 I think probably it doesn't make sense to add it there 03:17:33 <|amethyst> I guess there's no reason we *couldn't* do an 0.17.3 03:17:38 -!- eb_ has quit [] 03:19:48 does anyone actually play 0.17 purposefully enough that they'd update to 0.17.3 rather than to 0.18? 03:20:00 -!- FireSight has quit [] 03:20:22 <|amethyst> Zaba: with every release there are people who say "Crawl is ruined, I'm sticking with 0.(N-1)" 03:20:36 well yeah, but how many of them actually follow that through? 03:20:54 <|amethyst> !lg * month s=cv 03:20:55 128462 games for * (month): 78731x 0.18-a, 25428x 0.17, 13603x 0.19-a, 9908x 0.18, 355x 0.16, 150x 0.14, 144x 0.15, 53x 0.13, 39x 0.12, 23x 0.10, 11x 0.17-a, 9x 0.11, 4x 0.15-a, 2x 0.14-a, 0.13-a, 0.16-a 03:21:00 and would anyone actually want to expend effort on making their lives less crashy? 03:21:10 after all, they can just backport fixes themselves if they are so determined 03:21:12 <|amethyst> !lg * month s=cv x=cdist(name) 03:21:14 128462 games for * (month): 78731x 0.18-a [2864], 25428x 0.17 [1719], 13603x 0.19-a [1022], 9908x 0.18 [1252], 355x 0.16 [102], 150x 0.14 [28], 144x 0.15 [35], 53x 0.13 [26], 39x 0.12 [5], 23x 0.10 [18], 11x 0.17-a [11], 9x 0.11 [7], 4x 0.15-a [4], 2x 0.14-a [2], 0.13-a [1], 0.16-a [1] 03:22:29 that makes me wonder, how much does dcss-ca keep up to date with upstream? do they think we've gone off the deep end and all our commits are junk, or do they merge them all or what? 03:23:15 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:24:13 -!- kebabs has quit [] 03:26:53 what's dcss-ca? 03:27:05 <|amethyst> ??dcssca 03:27:05 dcssca[1/3]: Fork of Crawl maintained by jeremygurr. Features include 9-lived felids, the return of djinni, and 104 inventory slots. Try it out at http://crawl.homedns.org/crawl#lobby 03:28:08 non-conflicting changes get merged roughly weekly, amalloy 03:30:52 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:32:31 a lot of that 0.18 changelog is probably going to go into our version 1.5 03:32:44 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:33:18 well, a lot' 03:33:24 s already in there 03:38:35 -!- Svalin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:38:49 -!- Svalin_ is now known as Svalin 03:42:29 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:59:12 what are the odds of a stack of 3 acq in E:$ 04:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:11 100%, i bet 04:00:28 like i am quite certain that's what appeared in a game you recently played or saw 04:00:47 I got it in the game I'm playing right ow 04:00:49 *now 04:01:05 in the E:$ end vault 04:02:04 i mean, there's nothing special in elf about stacks of 3 ?acq. most of it is just | or *, and those will occasionally generate ?acq, which will occasionally generate in stacks. very rare, i would imagine, just like 3?acq is rare anywhere 04:02:35 yeah just wondering if it's the same odds finding it earlier 04:02:51 yes 04:03:05 except of course there tend to be a lot of items in E:$ 04:03:29 so like it is more common there than D:1, which has fewer items overall 04:09:07 E:$ was a good rapper 04:12:01 !nchoice 04:12:06 DEAM: 0 wins || Kellhus: CDO, L14 Eclecticist of Vehumet || staplegun: CBRO, L8 Vexing of No God || irum: CWZ, L8 Thaumaturge of Vehumet || StoryTimeSA: CBRO, L5 Vexing of No God || glosham: CJR, L1 Vexing of No God || chamandro: CAO, L1 Vexing of No God 04:14:30 -!- Svalin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:21:20 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:22:15 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 04:29:04 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:27 -!- Pachimari has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 04:42:08 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 04:43:31 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:43:42 -!- BanMido_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:44:08 -!- BanMido_2 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:44:58 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:47:41 -!- aditya has quit [Disconnected by services] 04:47:45 -!- adibis is now known as aditya 04:49:33 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:49:46 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:50:08 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 04:56:49 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 04:57:54 -!- Nilsyn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:02:39 Cigotuvi's Embrace still mentions Stoneskin in its description 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10403 by Vilis 05:02:57 03amalloy02 07* 0.19-a0-58-gbb97db9: chatoic -> chaotic (Doesnt) 10(25 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bb97db97eb58 05:09:02 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 05:11:23 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 05:11:58 -!- Guest11880 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:17:36 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest3778 05:20:26 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:26:47 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:34:01 03amalloy02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18.1-3-gecd1a14: Backport memory-management fixes from 0.19 trunk 10(52 seconds ago, 11 files, 22+ 23-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ecd1a14c3c66 05:37:57 -!- Doll has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:39:43 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 05:40:13 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:47:45 good death: !lg * t killer=rat ktyp=beam 05:50:27 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:52:37 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:07:03 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Client Quit] 06:08:33 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.18.1-3-gecd1a14 06:10:23 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:12:24 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:13:47 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:14:13 -!- Doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 06:16:53 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-58-gbb97db9 (34) 06:29:00 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 06:41:59 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:44:01 -!- Svalin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:44:09 -!- halv has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 06:46:07 -!- tv1990 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:53:53 -!- enz_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:55:12 -!- Guest3778 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:57:14 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:59:11 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:07:19 -!- Tiltorax_ is now known as Tiltorax 07:22:43 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:28:00 -!- } has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 07:31:42 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:36:56 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:43:30 -!- Porost has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:51:01 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:56:25 -!- NotKat_ is now known as Kat_ 07:59:45 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:09:43 -!- KiT_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:11:46 -!- Sonderblade has quit [Quit: L�mnar] 08:18:28 -!- grisha5 has quit [Client Quit] 08:22:26 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:22:49 -!- Datul has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:24:26 -!- Pekkekke has quit [] 08:26:11 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:38:06 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:49:32 -!- } has quit [] 08:52:32 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:57:03 -!- NotKat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:57:23 -!- Ge0ff has quit [] 08:58:08 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:59:19 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:59:39 -!- Kat_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:09 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:02:54 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:03:27 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:03:49 -!- Almacia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:08:45 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:12:16 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:18:49 -!- Franz__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:22:34 Only Stone Soup 0.17 counts for the tournament! 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