00:00:00 <|amethyst> I guess webtiles players aren't literate enough to notice that 00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:05 obviously you need anotjher spectators :p 00:01:21 -!- yesno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:01:27 -!- Arivia has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 00:02:15 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:03:08 !lm * t ghee max=xl 00:03:09 125. [2016-05-07 03:26:39] WhiteShark the Champion of Chaos (L20 GhEE of Makhleb) left the Shoals on turn 33934. (Shoals:1) 00:03:15 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:03:16 &watch whiteshark 00:03:17 http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-WhiteShark 00:03:32 !lm * t ghee max=xl -2 00:03:33 126/127. [2016-05-07 03:26:56] WhiteShark the Champion of Chaos (L20 GhEE of Makhleb) entered the Pits of Slime on turn 34251. (Lair:6) 00:13:46 I'm worshiping ashenzari. I have large horns and can't wear hats. I have cursed boots and chain mail. ^ says that I'm not bound in armour (even partially). Working as intended? 00:14:13 probably. you've still got gloves, cloak, shield, right? 00:14:26 derp 00:14:26 thanks! 00:14:58 -!- repehenryclay has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:18:55 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:19 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest19240 00:21:39 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:22:45 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:24:42 !nick www 00:24:42 No nick mapping for www. 00:25:16 !nick www amalloy gammafunk ontoclasm PleasingFungus wheals 00:25:17 Mapping www => amalloy gammafunk ontoclasm pleasingfungus wheals 00:25:31 !kw t0.18 00:25:32 Built-in: t0.18 => start>='2016-05-06 20:00:00' time<'2016-05-22 20:00:00' cv=0.18 explbr= 00:25:39 !nick www (t0.18) amalloy gammafunk ontoclasm PleasingFungus wheals 00:25:41 Mapping www => (t0.18) amalloy gammafunk ontoclasm pleasingfungus wheals 00:25:44 !lg www 00:25:45 8. pleasingfungus the Grave Robber (L3 DsNe), slain by a worker ant on D:4 on 2016-05-07 01:35:14, with 65 points after 2115 turns and 0:07:30. 00:25:49 !lg www s=name 00:25:50 8 games for www: 7x pleasingfungus, ontoclasm 00:25:53 lol 00:25:57 keepin busy 00:25:58 _A giant orange brain opens the huge gate. 00:26:02 okay 00:26:04 someone explain 00:26:05 telekinses 00:26:09 @??giant_orange_Brain 00:26:09 giant orange brain (04G) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 45-65 | AC/EV: 2/4 | 10doors, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(100), 12drown | XP: 717 | Sp: brain feed [06!sil], cause fear [06!sil], shadow creatures [06!sil], mass confusion [06!sil], blink [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:26:10 *telekinesis 00:26:15 eye teeth? 00:26:17 brain teeth? 00:26:23 i remember this came up before 00:26:25 i think 00:26:32 Brain Hands 00:26:42 also a new tmut spell to replace Blade Hands 00:26:47 !lm www s=name 00:26:48 79 milestones for www: 54x pleasingfungus, 13x ontoclasm, 12x amalloy 00:26:57 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:26:58 some clan leader... 00:27:01 !lm amalloy t 00:27:02 12. [2016-05-07 04:13:47] amalloy the Nimble (L14 GhEE of Ashenzari) reached level 8 of the Lair of Beasts on turn 20665. (Lair:8) 00:27:06 nice 00:27:10 !lg . ghee won 00:27:11 1. gammafunk the Petrodigitator (L27 GhEE of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2013-07-03 04:08:37, with 2319064 points after 132910 turns and 19:15:35. 00:27:12 !nchoice 00:27:17 GhEE: 0 wins || WhiteShark: CAO, L20 Champion of Chaos of Makhleb || MorganLeah: CBRO, L15 Brawler of Yredelemnul || amalloy: CAO, L14 Nimble of Ashenzari || Leszczynek: CUE, L11 Grappler of Yredelemnul || Malchor: CAO, L7 Digger of No God || LaularuKyrumo: CAO, L1 Digger of No God || kraphead: CAO, L1 Digger of No God 00:27:18 it's because I've already won a ghee 00:27:21 ahh 00:27:30 !hs * t ogae 00:27:31 174. Leszczynek the Conqueror (L27 OgAE of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2016-05-07 01:58:00, with 3359856 points after 64633 turns and 3:55:37. 00:27:32 !lg gammafunk ogae won 00:27:33 No games for gammafunk (ogae won). 00:27:38 !lg * t ogae won 00:27:39 3. jumbajumba the Skullcrusher (L27 OgAE of Ru), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-05-07 02:39:47, with 1520415 points after 87801 turns and 5:11:05. 00:27:42 rip 00:27:43 and because I recently won an ogre, and an ae 00:27:52 my ogae was startlingly good... 00:27:54 what a waste..... 00:28:05 like, good for ogae, you know 00:28:12 !nchoice 00:28:16 ogae is strong, dangit! 00:28:18 GhEE: 0 wins || WhiteShark: CAO, L20 Champion of Chaos of Makhleb || MorganLeah: CBRO, L15 Brawler of Yredelemnul || amalloy: CAO, L14 Nimble of Ashenzari || Leszczynek: CUE, L11 Grappler of Yredelemnul || Malchor: CAO, L7 Digger of No God || LaularuKyrumo: CAO, L1 Digger of No God || kraphead: CAO, L1 Digger of No God 00:29:16 gh of ash, interesting 00:29:27 I guess that makes sense in some ways, god that gh int 00:29:27 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:30:22 or... 00:30:26 gh^chei.... 00:30:46 gh of chei is quite good actually 00:30:49 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:58 ??ogae 00:30:59 solves the int problem for sure 00:30:59 I don't have a page labeled ogae in my learndb. Did you mean: ogaz, ogre. 00:31:14 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 00:31:29 -!- braveplatypus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:31:31 !learn add ogae The original last unwon combo. 00:31:32 ogae[1/1]: The original last unwon combo. 00:31:50 good sentence 00:32:03 does that mean it was the last combo to be won online? 00:32:07 how was there a subsequent last unwon? 00:32:13 gammafunk: new combos were added 00:32:15 righ 00:32:16 t 00:32:52 nikheizen: yeah, discounting combos that didn't exist until later 00:33:04 right right. 00:33:16 cool how that was the first nem choice pick, then 00:33:21 -!- heteroy-away has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:33:41 <|amethyst> !lg * ogae won 00:33:42 20. jumbajumba the Skullcrusher (L27 OgAE of Ru), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-05-07 02:39:47, with 1520415 points after 87801 turns and 5:11:05. 00:34:33 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:36 did you go with <= 17 wins for nchoice eligibility? 00:35:13 the rules page still says <= 15, not that it really matters what it says 00:36:17 I believe it was more than 15, but I'm not sure if it's actually recorded, the query 00:36:18 nah 18 00:36:21 iirc 00:36:21 ah ok 00:36:33 yeah i used !nwon 19 and removed ones used last tourney 00:37:00 <|amethyst> DDAE is the least-won playable combo 00:37:11 <|amethyst> !lg * won playable s=char o=% 00:37:12 38092 games for * (won playable): 6x DDAE, 7x FoNe, 8x TeEn, 8x FoIE, 9x DEHu, 9x FoCj, 9x CeIE, 10x DDEn, 10x GhSu, 11x CeCj, 11x HaFE, 12x MfCj, 12x SpSu, 12x FoWr, 12x KoAE, 12x DDIE, 13x TeWr, 13x HaSu, 13x HuEn, 13x HOCj, 13x GrNe, 13x DETm, 13x VSAM, 14x GhEn, 14x HaEn, 14x OpAM, 14x FeAK, 14x OpWr, 14x FeNe, 14x FoTm, 14x CeEE, 14x CeNe, 14x MiVM, 14x DDSk, 14x DEGl, 14x CeAr, 15x VSSu, 15x... 00:37:14 could either change or remove "The species/background combinations are chosen by Nemelex from those with at most fifteen online wins." on the rules page then 00:37:32 also, someone noted that we don't seem to actually list how many people are allowed in a clan 00:37:42 we just sort of hint at it 00:37:59 we probably should state that prominently, I keep forgetting 00:38:27 PleasingFungus: "Participants in the tournament may form clans of six or fewer players." 00:38:49 it just isn't below the big Clans heading 00:38:51 ah, i was - yeah 00:39:18 we could tweak that wording a bit 00:39:45 "The team captain must have the name of her team and up to five other team members in one of her version 0.18 rcfiles, like this:" 00:39:46 -!- eb_ has quit [] 00:40:05 that's a bit awkward maybe 00:40:18 adding something like that in the clan section would make sense, yeah 00:40:48 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:42:39 I'll go change the mako thingie 00:42:58 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:45:14 oh is this a static page 00:45:20 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:47:00 -!- modargo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:51:38 that's in templates/index.mako 00:51:46 should plants be poison immune? 00:51:52 it's weird to see poisoned mushrooms 00:54:53 chequers: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/players/chequers.html the bottom-most banner is "0.17", not "0.18". Intended? (I think you missed this last time around) 00:55:09 -!- moxian has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:56:01 -!- tw12we has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:56:01 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:59:26 FreekillB: question: who is the person to tell that the tourney page morgue links for cjr start with http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/morgue-0.18 instead? 00:59:36 maybe I can check that in a sec 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:44 After I edit the mako, will any update happen automatically? 01:05:04 -!- chukamok has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:05:05 -!- chukamok_ is now known as chukamok 01:06:28 -!- tollymain has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:03 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:07:29 not for the rules page 01:07:32 for all other pages, yes 01:07:42 python update_index.py 01:07:47 gammafunk: ^ 01:07:57 gotcha 01:08:21 hm, updating the 0.17 image 01:08:45 CanOfWorms: do you think you could do another banner? the 0.17 image needs to be updated to 0.18 01:09:29 CanOfWorms: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/images/banner_footer1.png 01:12:03 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:13:04 sure 01:15:35 -!- Guest19240 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:18:26 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-53-ge6e6435 (34) 01:20:08 chequers:http://imgur.com/vzWMouA 01:20:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:21:12 u r wonderful 01:21:46 !tell moxian thanks for the report, fixed the 0.18 banner image 01:21:47 chequers: OK, I'll let moxian know. 01:22:05 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:22:14 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25:09 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:25:29 Lot of great stuff in that can of worms... 01:25:42 You just have to look past all the worms 01:26:16 wow 01:26:16 !lg tabstorm 01:26:16 2111. tabstorm the Brawler (L22 VSMo of Cheibriados), annihilated by a titan on Vaults:5 (vaults_vault; vaults_end_minmay_loops) on 2016-05-07 05:23:07, with 365648 points after 33853 turns and 1:35:36. 01:27:14 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:27:37 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest52845 01:32:35 -!- Shock is now known as Guest88070 01:33:12 man, mutant beasts are pretty stronk 01:33:20 just had a pair assist me to take down arachne with 0 evo 01:33:52 yeah 01:33:53 -!- Guest52845 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:37:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:38:35 -!- WeeknightWizard has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:39:19 gammafunk - do you know off the toppa your head whether speedrun_rest would happen if a player used ===hdatravel instead of autoexplore? 01:39:37 the what now 01:39:52 whether speedrun_rest would happen? 01:40:20 speedrun_rest doesn't use the autoexplore command 01:40:31 iirc it sends movement keys 01:40:43 so I suspect the two wouldn't interact 01:40:45 ah, it just happens whenever resting is attempted? 01:40:52 oh, no 01:40:59 you should read the instructions, but 01:41:05 it happens when you call one of two specific macros 01:41:20 one for basically "do a speedrun rest until done or a notable change" 01:41:29 and one for basically "do a single turn speedrun rest" 01:41:43 neither use autotravel nor the actual rest command 01:41:46 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:41:53 ahh, ok 01:42:06 they aren't actually doing that form of rest, the former is basically implementing its own rest command, though 01:42:50 I always think of resting and exploring as one action, I forgot you can explicitly rest. I guess autoexploring and speedrunning are somewhat mutually exclusive, heh 01:43:31 oh, meaning you use a rest-till-full-then-autoexplore command? 01:43:45 because for most people they're two rather distinct things 01:43:52 still, maybe if ===start_resting were treated as a replacement for normal resting, you could still shave some turns. because score is a thing, and tournaments are a thing, and I have no idea what I'm doing 01:44:19 well if you're using start_resting, you're not using 5 yeah 01:44:26 the whole point is that you call start_resting and not 5 01:44:39 you could bind your 5 key to start_resting though 01:44:43 in a speedrun, at least 01:45:11 speedruners basically try not to use 5, they either manually "bread swing" or "chei walk" 01:45:38 so in my speedruns I'm using my macro for start_resting and I never use 5 at all 01:45:47 yeah. I don't think I'm going to try a real speedrun, but speedrun_rest may still increase my score in normal games, which may increase tournament numbers? 01:45:55 -!- destrovel has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:46:14 thanks for the help, I'll give it a shot! 01:46:27 yeah it would probably have a decent impact on score in normal games with autoexplore, even 01:46:33 but I've not done the math to see 01:46:52 although I think a much bigger impact comes fro not autoexploring 01:46:56 *from 01:47:55 I don't think I can live without autoexplore 01:48:11 zxc sounds pretty miserable in his #32 streak run on youtube 01:48:15 pining for autoexplore 01:48:23 lol 01:48:23 zxc: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 01:49:10 at least after the very early game you can start autoexploring while streaking, whereas with speedrunning you can't do it all game 01:49:19 it's definitely more fun to not use autoexplore on speedruns 01:49:33 I'm not even on a team, there's really no reason to care about my score, but... it's fun to try to figure out little ways to optimize without sacrificing sanity 01:49:35 compared to not using autoexplore on normal games 01:49:46 or on streak games, I guess 01:49:54 since you're exploring a lot less of any given level anyhow 01:50:04 ah, true 01:50:12 I forgot that you're not supposed to full clear 01:50:38 yeah, but even then when I go to play casual runs autoexplore feels nice 01:50:53 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 01:51:02 "speedrunner's autoexplore" would be great, but really hard to implement 01:51:15 not even sure what all the cases you'd have to think of would be 01:51:34 isn't it just 01:51:35 "is this maybe a vault" "is this area better chance for finding branch entrance" etc 01:51:43 the biggest effect of traps in tomb seems to be that revenants randomly die when they blink 01:51:54 "move away as far as possible until you find one stair" 01:52:03 move away? 01:52:10 what are we moving away from 01:52:12 from your start pos 01:52:12 from where you've explored 01:52:21 that would be soe pretty weird movement 01:52:25 *some 01:52:51 but no there are a bunch of considerations you tend to make 01:53:08 and there are some things that are easier to program, probably, like "try to move in a diagonal dir to expore more los" 01:53:20 but all sorts of heuristics people use to find things faster 01:53:36 "beeline stairs, else reveal as many map tiles as possible" is probably codifiable in a button. other cases like "I haven't explored quite enough yet" or "this looks like a good room to peek in" would have to be manual 01:53:37 which depends on what's been explored, known vaults that might place in certain areas 01:54:06 -!- argent0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:54:12 basically you'd have a hard time pleasing 4tharra or anyone else doing these at a high level with something simple, I think 01:54:50 if we learn anything from WoW, we know that highest-level players cannot be satisfied under any circumstances 01:55:11 ^ 01:55:27 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-53-ge6e6435 01:55:28 there is not a thing in the world that speedrunners will not complain about 01:55:39 cool, our speedrunner autoexplore 01:55:45 will appeal to casual speedrunners 01:55:53 mm 01:55:56 which is a pretty desirable demographic 01:56:13 it would be good for doing a mix of real-time and turncount speedruns 01:56:15 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:56:23 yeah that's true, it might be nice there 01:56:25 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:56:33 zxc: and I wonder if you could improve autoexplore for realtime? 01:56:40 heh, much bigger demo at least 01:56:40 like it'd also help realtime turns 01:56:49 er realtime. 01:56:51 not realtime turns 01:57:02 not sure what you mean 01:57:12 realtime runners use autoexplore 01:57:28 so if you had a better algo for exploring the level, it would help them win faster 01:57:43 some amount of explore_wall_bias already reduces the number of times you have to press o, thus saving realtime, no? 01:57:58 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:57:59 something that ignores corners of the map 01:58:09 or minor pockets 01:58:28 and also, explore for longer if all 3 stairs haven't been found 01:58:37 I guess this is sort of weird because what you're doing becomes a TAS at some point 01:59:10 which is fine if you're making a TAS but for human speedrunners they wouldn't like people to have different autoexplore tools 01:59:14 one of the main instances where I want to use autoexplore but it's not ideal is when a bad unique has been spotted elsewhere in the floor 01:59:28 yeah, then you have to be cute with exclusions 02:00:01 and you need to either set a dozen exclusions, just autoexplore anyway and risk running into them, or manually explore 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:20 autoexplore uses a djikstra map that treats single-tile exclusions as "avoid" and prefers moving farther down the gradient? 02:00:25 and even if they're sleeping you don't want to just exclude them as there might be other enemies nearby you might run into and shout, waking them up 02:00:29 might do it 02:00:52 can demon weapons generate in shops? not sure if I've ever seen one 02:01:01 yes they can 02:01:09 clustering etc 02:01:24 I think only god-gifted weapon types won't 02:01:36 what types are those? 02:01:43 TSO blessings basically 02:01:48 eudemon blade etc 02:02:00 that's what I should have said, not "god-gifted" 02:02:10 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:02:10 more like "god-blessed" 02:02:51 someone could make a shop that had even those, of course, but that person would be nicolae 02:05:37 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 02:07:26 !learn add amalloy_todo passwall can move through rock that enemies are currently digging out 02:07:27 amalloy todo[6/6]: passwall can move through rock that enemies are currently digging out 02:08:09 lol 02:08:16 what's the right behaviour? 02:08:25 PleasingFungus: instant death 02:08:31 i dunno. interrupt you? like when you get constricted 02:08:31 telefragged! 02:09:12 both creatures are hit with LRD at 100 spellpower 02:09:36 resonance or something 02:09:55 it doesn't seem like much of a problem, as bugs go 02:10:05 well it just looks dumb when it's done 02:10:54 oh, like if the actual endpoint is dug out? 02:11:05 -!- Guest88070 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:15:01 Lasty_, why are you so awful at VS? 02:17:59 ok, I think this stone giant is purple because it came out of an abyss gate 02:18:34 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:20:25 oh, the monster glyph color bug again? 02:20:33 I thought we fixed the green fire giants and such 02:24:24 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 02:24:58 is it dangerous to include an RC file that includes an RC file, or even further nests them? 02:25:03 this is the second one minmay's reported today 02:25:09 friendfixit: define 'dangerous' 02:25:17 i would describe it as 'common' 02:25:24 doesn't work, causes crashes, or anything like that 02:25:36 ah ok 02:29:02 friendfixit: I'd say it's probably not the best thing to do if you can maintain your own rc 02:29:36 There are a few accounts maintained specifically so people can include from them, but most are not 02:29:50 So if they change you'll not find out until some random point in time 02:30:05 when your rc breaks, that is 02:30:53 I have multiple accounts, so I was thinking of the other accounts just including one main RC file from my first account. but that RC file might, say, include HDAcolors or gammafunk.rc or whatever, as I experiment with different lua macro combinations 02:31:50 morning 02:31:50 Napkin: You have 44 messages. Use !messages to read them. 02:31:53 might be safer to just copy those files into the main file, and not receive "patches", but that starts making the rc file look disgustingly long 02:31:59 Yeah, my rc could break since I tend to try out code a lot, for example; mine's best to take from and not directly include 02:32:09 but HDAcolors is probably always safe to include 02:32:28 I think making a central rc account for all your alts and including that in every alt is certainly fine 02:32:44 and if I had an alt, it would likely just include gammafunk.rc unless it needed a special rc 02:32:45 teams-0.18.sh in place, gammafunk 02:32:57 oh, great, thanks 02:32:58 is it possible to say, include an akrasiac rcfile from a project357 character? 02:33:02 no 02:33:07 it's only from the same server 02:33:09 amalloy, are you around? 02:33:12 alass, ok 02:33:23 thanks for the help funk 02:33:24 friendfixit: if you want help maintaining rcs though, see my webtiles repo 02:33:28 ??beem 02:33:28 beem[1/3]: A WebTiles/Twitch chat bot that relays commands to Sequell, Gretell, and Cheibriados. See https://github.com/gammafunk/beem/blob/master/docs/commands.md and https://github.com/gammafunk/beem/ for source 02:33:36 Napkin: yes 02:33:38 https://github.com/gammafunk/webtiles 02:33:54 if you pip3 install that locally, you'll bet a script called update-dcss-rc 02:34:05 can upload rcs to any webtiles server 02:34:07 that is not cpo 02:34:25 cpo support might be forthcoming though 02:34:45 I bet someone's done expect scripts for it over ssh as well 02:34:51 won't help with cpo though 02:37:47 neat 02:38:27 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:38:36 hm 02:38:45 there's a low chance of staff acq giving something with subtype 40 02:38:53 which is way out of range for staves or rods 02:39:16 done, gammafunk 02:39:24 ty 02:39:33 how is the release going? 02:39:41 amalloy: please no like "Chei Rulez" blog posts or whatever 02:39:58 Going great, we got all servers updated 02:40:10 the os x builds are the only current headache I think? 02:40:20 as always ;) 02:40:33 Napkin: I just did the windows builds myself, not sure if you had time to do much with windows release builds on cdo? 02:40:42 but those were easy to make and are uploaded 02:40:42 none at all 02:40:45 sorry 02:40:51 great :) 02:40:52 no prob, again they're not hard 02:41:01 it's the debs that take forever to make... 02:41:24 in part because it's 4 different builds and because the cowbuilder stuff I have could probably be made a bit better 02:41:36 ah ha. unrands 02:41:51 wucad mu & olgreb 02:41:59 oh, yeah 02:42:16 how does that work, just a separate chance not based on player skill? 02:42:31 ??staff_acquirement 02:42:31 staff acquirement[1/2]: Gives a rod or a staff, weighted towards something new and useful given your skills. The only guarantee is that you won't get a useless item. This means that Trog worshippers are guaranteed to get a rod. See the following entries for item probabilities. 02:42:37 ??staff_acquirement[2 02:42:37 staff acquirement[2/2]: If your Evocations is greater than (1d(sum of casting skills) - 4), you get a random rod with an 80% chance. Otherwise, you have a 50% chance to get the enhancer for your best skill if you haven't seen it (if you have, you have a flat 1/3 chance for any staff). Otherwise, you get wizardry, energy, or power, with the first two being twice as likely. 02:42:45 gammafunk: i have cheistats this game without the cheispeed. it's great 02:42:55 well, whether you get a staff at all is based on your skills (& trog) 02:42:56 !lm . br.enter=lair x=int 02:42:57 !lm amalloy 02:43:17 PleasingFungus: yes, but I guess assuming you get a staff 02:43:38 i believe that's a relatively generic chance in makeitem.cc 02:43:39 129. [2016-05-07 03:05:13] [int=25] amalloy the Geomancer (L11 GhEE of Ashenzari) entered the Lair of Beasts on turn 11417. (D:10) 02:43:40 6832. [2016-05-07 06:27:08] amalloy the Warrior (L19 GhEE of Ashenzari) left the Vaults on turn 41660. (Vaults:1) 02:43:50 !source items 02:43:52 1/10. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc#l1859 02:44:54 line 1570 is the relevant one 02:45:15 yeah so I see 02:45:20 1/27 chance from acq 02:45:22 go..yes 02:47:33 amalloy: I think the wordpress interface is pretty self-explanatory (assuming you've never used it), but you'll get used to it after messing around in the editor a bit 02:47:54 most edits can happen in the wysiwyg mode, but it's handy to switch the the html edit mode if things look weird 02:48:21 you'll see unapproved comments when you log in, which you can approve if they're not spam (which they won't be 98% of the time) 02:48:53 -!- MagicLamp has quit [Quit: -a- Connection Timed Out] 02:49:21 a bunch of how the structure works is kind of counterintuitive, like links/pages/posts have tags on the right side that dictate where they show up on the site 02:51:06 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-53-ge6e6435 02:51:28 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:53:59 Napkin: Since you're around, do you know if it's possible to get @? on gretell to query the latest stable release instead of trunk? 02:54:06 @??-version 02:54:06 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.19-a0-53-ge6e6435 02:54:08 @?-version 02:54:08 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.19-a0-53-ge6e6435 02:54:16 no, not anymore 02:54:25 alas 02:54:29 i think |amethyst changed that 02:54:32 alack 02:54:32 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:54:41 that's probably I should look into then, if i want to fix it 02:55:05 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:58:54 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-54-g5421d7e: Update the ? manual listing (10400) 10(57 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5421d7e8172d 02:58:58 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18.1-2-ga659475: Update the ? manual listing (10400) 10(61 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a659475b47f3 03:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:01:02 do any of you use a "theme" for github to make it easier to look at? something where like... all the code is in boldface, or the colors are more contrasting, maybe 03:01:10 i had no idea github had themes 03:01:17 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:01:35 it doesn't, afaik 03:01:46 it doesn't appear to by default, but it seems like the sort of thing someone before me will have tried to solve 03:01:48 what don't you like bout the default theme? 03:02:31 I guess the colors arent awful, but the text is too thin. comments are pretty hard to read espicially 03:02:58 and line numbers 03:03:09 have you tried increasing font size? 03:03:27 i do a lot of web browsing at slightly higher than normal zoom 03:03:30 that'll work for now, good call 03:04:56 -!- MagicLamp has quit [Quit: -a- Connection Timed Out] 03:06:29 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 03:07:42 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:08:37 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.18.1-2-ga659475 03:12:03 trying out this now file:///tmp/gm-temp/GitHub_Dark.user.js 03:12:23 seems pretty good, though the dark/light inversion is a bit disorienting at first 03:13:47 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 03:16:15 -!- Pekkekke has quit [Client Quit] 03:16:59 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-54-g5421d7e (34) 03:20:59 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18.1-2-ga659475 03:27:04 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:33:21 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-54-g5421d7e (34) 03:37:07 !source changelog 03:37:10 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/contrib/sdl2/debian/changelog 03:37:45 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:38:28 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:38:48 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:39:05 -!- bsdbeard has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:39:27 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:41:31 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:42:35 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:45:25 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:45:40 is it bad form to make a vault that has a hole in the middle (in the hopes that a minivault is selected by the game to fill the hole)? 03:45:54 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 03:52:07 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:52:15 !tell johnstein For the instance of beem I run on cbro, I made you an admin, and there's a `!beem status' command you can type in any chat where you see it listening to get details on exactly who it's watching. Feel free to do `!beem subscribe' under your cbro account to have it watch your games, of course 03:52:16 gammafunk: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 03:53:35 -!- Helmschank has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:57:49 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:59:00 -!- Kramell has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:07:07 !tell PleasingFungus I don't know why I want to send this to you in particular but, cancellation hell effect: !lg dynast t coc 04:07:08 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 04:09:39 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:11:25 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:11:49 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest41724 04:13:09 -!- Nilsyn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:14:09 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:16:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 04:16:29 -!- Guest41724 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:17:16 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:17:34 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:17:48 -!- modargo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:27:30 !lg dynast t coc -tv 04:27:31 1. Dynast, XL27 MiWn, T:66846 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 04:28:33 dang, look away for a second and i miss the glorious death 04:28:59 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 04:29:01 The build passed. (master - 5421d7e #5422 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/128469606 04:29:01 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 04:29:26 right before you fly over to antaeus 04:29:38 just quaff a flight pot to make it to the island 04:30:21 is the cancellation hell effect instantaneous? most hostile cancellation isn't 04:30:30 os i'd expect a very stern warning about losing bouyancy 04:30:54 if you read the log, you see a message about losing your magical effects 04:31:12 and I think one about buoyancy? 04:31:23 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:31:37 dynast does play pretty fast and loose, but doesn't die too much 04:31:42 .splatratio dynast 04:31:42 % of xl17 chars killed : 24/101x Dynast [23.76%] 04:31:54 .splatratio . 04:31:55 % of xl17 chars killed : 2/23x gammafunk [8.70%] 04:32:02 nice, lost a game I think 04:32:06 due to kw upgrade 04:32:16 it should probably use recentish now, though 04:32:16 -!- Pachimari has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 04:32:20 !cmd .splatratio 04:32:21 Command: .splatratio => !lg ${1:-.} $* title:"% of xl17 chars killed $*" (( name=gammafunk !gfspeed || name!=gammafunk )) !boring xl>=17 recent s=name / !won o=-% ?: den.N>5 04:32:23 -!- chukamok has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:32:31 !cmd .splatratio!lg ${1:-.} $* title:"% of xl17 chars killed $*" (( name=gammafunk !gfspeed || name!=gammafunk )) !boring xl>=17 recent s=name / !won o=-% ?: den.N>5 04:32:31 Unknown command: ${1:-.} $* title:"% of xl17 chars killed $*" (( name=gammafunk !gfspeed || name!=gammafunk )) !boring xl>=17 recent s=name / !won o=-% ?: den.N>5 04:32:35 oops 04:32:48 !cmd .splatratio !lg ${1:-.} $* title:"% of xl17 chars killed $*" (( name=gammafunk !gfspeed || name!=gammafunk )) !boring xl>=17 recentish s=name / !won o=-% ?: den.N>5 04:32:49 Redefined command: .splatratio => !lg ${1:-.} $* title:"% of xl17 chars killed $*" (( name=gammafunk !gfspeed || name!=gammafunk )) !boring xl>=17 recentish s=name / !won o=-% ?: den.N>5 04:32:55 .splatratio . 04:32:56 % of xl17 chars killed : 3/26x gammafunk [11.54%] 04:33:11 I did kill a couple recently for no particularly good reason 04:33:19 .splatratio . 04:33:20