00:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:02:44 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-49-gb8736b8 (34) 00:03:14 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:03:48 Stable (0.18) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18.1-1-g2f07953 00:03:59 |amethyst: do you know what implements that rc command for the irc bots? 00:04:07 it seems to not be part of sizzel 00:04:14 ??sizzel 00:04:14 sizzel ~ sizzell[1/2]: Like Gretell, except that |amethyst is typing everything himself. Announces games and upgrades on crawl.s-z.org ({CSZO}). Uses "%" for its commands ("%dump" etc), but does not do nick mapping. 00:04:21 er 00:04:24 ??bot 00:04:24 bot ~ bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Lantell (CUE, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^), Eksell (CXC, |), Jorgrell (CJR, =); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 00:04:41 ^rc 00:04:42 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-git/gammafunk.rc 00:04:51 oh, are those just sequell commands after all 00:04:51 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:04:54 !cmd ^rc 00:04:55 Command: ^rc => .echo http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-$(replace trunk git ${2:-git})/$(!lm ${1:-.} cbro x=name fmt:"${x[0]}" stub:"$(name_fixup $1)").rc 00:04:57 hah! 00:05:03 ZiBuDo: false alarm, we implement them in sequell 00:05:14 =jorgron 00:05:14 no one likes you. 00:05:32 =gammafunk 00:05:37 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 00:05:44 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:05:54 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:06:00 i don't think that is a command either 00:06:24 I have a beem instance running for cjr 00:06:24 http://puu.sh/oHUTQ/cec1d5e4d1.png 00:06:28 this is all i have on sizzell 00:06:30 maybe if I make progress with johnstein and hosting it we can run one on djr 00:06:34 *cjr 00:06:47 what is beem? 00:06:50 ??beem 00:06:50 beem[1/3]: A WebTiles/Twitch chat bot that relays commands to Sequell, Gretell, and Cheibriados. See https://github.com/gammafunk/beem/blob/master/docs/commands.md and https://github.com/gammafunk/beem/ for source 00:07:05 ah 00:07:11 I'll implement =rc in sequell right quick 00:07:35 .echo http://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rcfiles/crawl-$(replace trunk git ${2:-git})/$(!lm ${1:-.} cjr x=name fmt:"${x[0]}" stub:"$(name_fixup $1)").rc 00:07:35 http://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rcfiles/crawl-git/gammafunk.rc 00:07:38 er 00:07:43 !cmd =rc .echo http://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rcfiles/crawl-$(replace trunk git ${2:-git})/$(!lm ${1:-.} cjr x=name fmt:"${x[0]}" stub:"$(name_fixup $1)").rc 00:07:44 Defined command: =rc => .echo http://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rcfiles/crawl-$(replace trunk git ${2:-git})/$(!lm ${1:-.} cjr x=name fmt:"${x[0]}" stub:"$(name_fixup $1)").rc 00:07:47 =rc . 00:07:48 http://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rcfiles/crawl-git/gammafunk.rc 00:07:56 &rc . 0.18 cjr 00:07:58 http://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rcfiles/crawl-0.18/gammafunk.rc 00:08:00 nice 00:08:06 nice 00:08:10 &rc . cpo 00:08:12 https://crawl.project357.org/rc-files/cpo/chequers.rc 00:08:18 need version 00:08:22 &rc . 0.18 cpo 00:08:23 then server 00:08:24 https://crawl.project357.org/rc-files/0.18/chequers.rc 00:08:30 &rc 00:08:31 https://crawl.project357.org/rc-files/trunk/chequers.rc 00:08:34 nice 00:08:35 nice 00:08:39 !flip nice 00:08:39 (╯°□°)╯︵ǝɔᴉu 00:08:59 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:09:00 !recur !motto 3 n i c e 00:09:01 NNNICENICENICENNICENICENICENNICENICENICE! N-NNICENICENICE!! N-N-NICE!!! N-N-N-N!!! I-I-I-I!!! C-C-C-C!!! E-E-E-E!!! N-N-N!! I-I-I!! C-C-C!! E-E-E!!! N-N-N!! I-I-I!! C-C-C!! E-E-E!!! N-NICE!! N-N-N!! I-I-I!! C-C-C!! E-E-E!! N-N! I-I! C-C! E-E!! N-N! I-I! C-C! E-E!!! N-NICE!! N-N-N!! I-I-I!! C-C-C!! E-E-E!! N-N! I-I! C-C! E-E!! N-N! I-I! C-C! E-E!!! NNICENICENICE! N-NICE!! N-N-N!! I-I-I!! C-C-C!! E-... 00:09:02 <|amethyst> ZiBuDo: btw, I like that you posted a screenshot of a diff 00:09:15 !time 00:09:15 Time: May 06, 2016, 04:09:15 AM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 15 hours, 50 minutes and 44 seconds. 00:09:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akwm2UZJ34o nice 00:09:40 elliptic: will you be around at start to check the t scripts, by any chance? 00:09:52 we're otherwise all set up (except for cwz) 00:09:59 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:10:01 gammafunk, chequers: I should be able to check on the t scripts, yes 00:10:06 awesome 00:10:12 cheers m8 00:12:27 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:13:07 omg 00:13:14 "This might be better!" Your wandering mushroom evaporates and reforms as a death cob! 00:13:17 _The death cob is revulsed by your support of nature! 00:13:35 <|amethyst> ??xom reasons[$] 00:13:35 xom reasons[11/11]: holy fuck xom stop he polymorphed a dire elephant into an azure jelly I am at rc- 00:13:45 <|amethyst> IMO add it 00:13:58 <|amethyst> ??xom reasons[/death cob 00:13:59 I don't have a page labeled xom reasons[/death cob in my learndb. 00:14:09 <|amethyst> or however that works 00:14:21 <|amethyst> ??xom reasons[/azure jelly 00:14:21 ??xom reasons [death cob 00:14:22 I don't have a page labeled xom reasons[/azure jelly in my learndb. 00:14:22 I don't have a page labeled xom reasons [death cob in my learndb. 00:14:25 <|amethyst> ??xom reasons[azure jelly 00:14:26 xom_reasons[11/11]: holy fuck xom stop he polymorphed a dire elephant into an azure jelly I am at rc- 00:14:27 <|amethyst> aha 00:15:26 oh 00:15:34 it became peaceful next turn 00:15:41 well that's ok I guess 00:17:29 xom reasons? 00:17:42 oh 00:17:50 now he turned a mushroom into a shambling mangrove 00:17:54 should be pretty good for lair 00:18:16 i've heard legends of the allied shambling mangrove before 00:18:28 and even better, my mangrove released a friendy wasp 00:18:45 amalloy: see, this is what happens when you worship a god that's actually powerful 00:19:03 .owned * killer~~gastronok 00:19:04 6. [tdam=110;mhp=107] mooon the Grappler (L10 TrCK of Xom), demolished by Gastronok the shard shrike on D:10 on 2016-05-05 13:35:58, with 5350 points after 5878 turns and 0:15:29. 00:19:24 yeah, we should add friendly mangroves as a fedhas feature 00:20:00 fyi gammafunk your stream is down Kappa 00:20:10 !lg mooon trck 00:20:11 18. mooon the Grappler (L10 TrCK of Xom), demolished by Gastronok the shard shrike on D:10 on 2016-05-05 13:35:58, with 5350 points after 5878 turns and 0:15:29. 00:20:19 ^ xom reasons 00:20:19 omg xom, dropped a poison cloud and now my beloved wasp is dead :( 00:20:42 _Your shambling mangrove evaporates and reforms as a thorn hunter! 00:20:46 this is really nuts 00:20:46 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 00:20:56 !lm . uniq~~shaped s=uniq 00:20:57 One milestone for amalloy (uniq~~shaped): the shard shrike shaped Royal Jelly 00:21:33 but the xp penalty, gammafunk! you'll only get half xp now that you have one ally capable of killing every monster in lair! 00:21:33 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:47 Gastronok evaporates and reforms as a shard shrike! You are now a favourite toy of Xom. "이게 더 나은 것 같군!" You swap places with Gastronok. The shard of ice hits you! Gastronok claws you. Gastronok freezes you!!! Ouch! That really hurt! You die... [59dmg] 00:22:15 sorry, 110dam 00:26:14 -!- Implojin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:28:44 i bet that was really angry in korean 00:31:21 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:04 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:35:49 ProzacElf: that was xom talking 00:36:39 fr: xom talks in korean on all servers 00:46:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:49:22 prozacelf: surely you mean, xom talks in a nonnative language on each server 00:54:34 to be fair, korean is non-native for all but one server 00:55:43 -!- knu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:57:18 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:57:32 heh 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:40 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:04:12 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:08:20 Pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18.1-1-g2f07953 (34) 01:13:18 comment re: the new cjr server post "oh god that server 01:13:19 " 01:14:14 ? 01:15:07 how can I see how long it takes people to find the abyss rune on average in 0.17 01:15:18 from entering abyss 01:15:39 !cmd !runetime 01:15:39 No command !runetime 01:15:42 !cmd !rune 01:15:42 No command !rune 01:15:45 !cmd !runespeed 01:15:45 No command !runespeed 01:16:17 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:16:29 any command like that is going to be for a single user 01:17:14 because it's going to involve two queries where you match up the milestones, printing them with fmt, I think 01:18:13 !kw br.enter=abyss 01:18:13 Expression: br.enter=abyss => verb=br.enter noun=abyss 01:18:20 !lg . urune=15 won x=gid 01:18:21 7. [game_key=chequers:cpo:20151120103255S] chequers the Heavyweight Champion (L27 TrMo of The Shining One), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-12-21 09:18:12, with 15586979 points after 101075 turns and 5:33:42. 01:18:26 !lm . gid=chequers:cpo:20151120103255S verb=br.enter noun=abyss 01:18:27 No milestones for chequers (gid=chequers:cpo:20151120103255S verb=br.enter noun=abyss). 01:18:46 !lm . gid=chequers:cpo:20151120103255S br.enter=abyss 01:18:46 !speedabyss . 01:18:47 No milestones for chequers (gid=chequers:cpo:20151120103255S br.enter=abyss). 01:18:50 gammafunk's fastest abyss rune retrieval: 71 turns 01:18:52 wat 01:18:55 there's that command 01:18:56 !cmd !speedabyss 01:18:56 Command: !speedabyss => .echo $(name_fixup ${1:-.})'s fastest abyss rune retrieval$(if $* " ("$*")"): $(foldr min 1000000 (listsubtract (split | (!lm ${1:-.} $* abyss rune s=gid o=gid x=max(turns) join:"|" fmt:"${x[0]}")) (split | (!lm ${1:-.} $* $(id "(("$(join || $(!lm ${1:-.} $* abyss rune s=gid o=gid x=max(turns) join:"|" fmt:"gid=${.} turns<=${x[0]}"))"))") abyss.enter s=gid o=gid x=max(turns... 01:18:58 but again for a single user 01:19:07 and yeah it works by matching up fmt-ed milestone queries 01:19:28 do you get one abyss entrance per rune retrieval, or would eg an early banishment before you get the rune throw this off? 01:19:41 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-49-gb8736b8 (34) 01:19:47 Also I like that now with deep banishment the fastest way to find the rune is probably to get yourself banished by an alich 01:20:07 well before deep banish 01:20:14 you could use a weapon to banish yourself deeper 01:20:49 it's not exactly fastest since how do you find this lich and how do you know it has banish 01:21:29 a disto wielder you spot, however 01:21:31 if it has good hd 01:22:02 has merging amulet of regeneration and amulet of magic regeneration been considered? 01:22:28 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:23:00 ah yeah i forgot aliches have randbooks 01:23:56 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:25:13 gammafunk: blog typo "CJR it has an IRC bot" 01:25:22 oh right, amalloy pointed that out 01:25:26 "your games play" apostrophe 01:25:46 is it leaderboard or leader board? I think the former but you used the latter 01:26:30 웹죽 작성일 16-05-05 18:56 01:26:31 Hello! 0.18 was already compiled. when server restart, 0.18 will be available. just wait a day. thank you. 01:26:40 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:27:04 nice! 01:27:12 was that on that board you found? 01:27:16 http://www.webzook.net/bbs/board.php?bo_table=webzook_server&wr_id=32&&#c_34 01:27:18 ya 01:27:21 cool 01:27:26 maybe we'll remember that next time 01:27:40 his name translates via google as Wepjuk 01:27:43 guess I shall take hongbot offline 01:27:51 Wepjuk is "WebTiles" I think 01:28:19 google board name Wepjuk shoveling server 01:28:28 being an admin is shit! 01:28:39 heh 01:28:43 true words 01:28:45 i hope to god the 0.18 has fixed scrolls/potions 01:29:12 well if it doesn't, to be honest it's not the end of the world 01:29:19 we can probably hack a server exclude? 01:29:31 condition on the server not being cwz 01:29:32 that would be easy enough, i just feel gross 01:30:04 yeah, there's just not a lot we can do, the scripts are not terribly general already, just good enough to get the job done and look decent 01:30:19 maybe your updated code can help do things like that 01:30:24 -!- unmovable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:30:30 the fabled new scoreboard 01:30:47 wait til you discover we've been making those html pages by hand when you aren't looking 01:31:48 I guess someone is working on the pak banner image? 01:31:56 that's still broken when I browse rules 01:32:59 hm, i was going to but inkscape won't start for me, and I forgot 01:33:04 *ahem* 01:33:06 HEEEEEELLLLLPPPP 01:33:44 johnstein: had a guide, didn't he? 01:33:47 !time 01:33:48 Time: May 06, 2016, 05:33:47 AM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 14 hours, 26 minutes and 12 seconds. 01:33:58 yes, it just involved opening inkscape 01:34:05 I can mess around with it in inkscape 01:34:13 nice, thanks chequers 01:34:14 er 01:34:15 CanOfWorms: 01:34:17 I remember hearing there's a source somewhere? 01:34:21 there's an svg in the repo, yeah 01:34:23 https://github.com/crawl/dcss_tourney/blob/master/image-templates/bannerfactory.svg 01:34:28 alright 01:34:51 basically, we need a new colour, and the text to say TEST SUBJECT like the ones here: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/ 01:34:52 oh, in the tourney repo, right 01:35:01 Pak's colour being green, but 01:35:04 *Test Subject 01:35:06 not sure if that's already well used 01:35:19 green would fit well on that spot in the banner list 01:35:48 yeah I see the other banners tend to be similar to their god's colors 01:36:20 I like that Veh is pink 01:36:22 there are three variants of each banner: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/images/banner_nemelex1.png http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/images/banner_nemelex2.png http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/images/banner_nemelex3.png 01:36:41 oh, right, for the banner tiers 01:36:42 if that's Too Hard, just one image of whatever sigiling is fine 01:36:55 because i'm not sure if anyone notices the tiers have different images :3 01:37:01 no I definitely do 01:37:08 it's helpful when looking through yoru banners 01:37:35 -!- TonyMeatballs has quit [Client Quit] 01:38:05 does anyone remember what the font is? 01:38:27 god, I want to say Grunt mentioned it one time 01:39:46 ah 01:39:48 CanOfWorms: are any of these files helpful: https://github.com/crawl/dcss_tourney/tree/master/image-templates 01:39:49 I see it 01:39:51 fairydustb 01:40:01 oh cool 01:40:46 alright I should be able to render this now 01:42:10 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:42:22 -!- flappity_ is now known as flappity 01:44:15 fr, remove zigfigs. Make the zig (the only zig) go up to level 1000 01:45:20 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:47:21 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:02 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:53:39 http://puu.sh/oI1FL/ae74202b91.png 01:53:59 soothing 01:55:11 minmay: i don't think i've seen any discussion of merging the regens 01:55:14 CanOfWorms: perfect 01:55:20 i don't have any strong opinion on it 01:55:21 except too small, I think? 01:55:23 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-49-gb8736b8 01:55:35 should be 170x58 01:55:50 ah 01:56:01 that well known 2.93 : 1 aspect ratio 01:56:10 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:57:25 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:57:38 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 01:57:55 lol 01:58:19 also it's not even mod4 :mad: 01:59:02 !tell elliptic http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/clans/murtidash.html has a very good name, but is it Too Lewd for tourney? 01:59:03 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 01:59:16 i have no idea what our rules are 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:40 there's also "Spellcasting is for Felids" 02:00:52 which is clearly referencing a rather rude word 02:01:07 imo pussies isn't that rude. 02:01:33 http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/clans/tollymain.html , maybe 02:01:39 oh, i read it as f.....ts 02:01:43 oh 02:01:44 http://imgur.com/a/f8IaO 02:02:01 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:02:08 i love you man 02:02:13 i feel like felids -> pussy-cats is a much more reasonable leap 02:02:32 also i appreciate ur clan name 02:04:11 do we also need the dcss 0.18 wrapping banners or are those doe 02:04:13 *done 02:07:31 to love ru is a pretty good team name 02:08:13 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:08:35 -!- modargo has joined ##crawl-dev 02:09:00 I'd like to imagine http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/clans/blomdor.html is a reference to the new mutant beasts. 02:09:54 i have no idea where else it'd be coming from, tbh 02:10:11 ...kind of ironic that they're not *in* 0.18 02:10:24 rip 02:10:34 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:13:06 Stable (0.18) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18.1-1-g2f07953 02:21:55 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:25:34 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:25:45 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:26:40 PleasingFungus: that's not really naughty enough I think, judging by what was banned in the past 02:26:54 plausible 02:26:56 are there examples? 02:27:29 there were some nazi references 02:27:34 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:27:47 not sure I have a link though, I think if you look at 0.17 02:27:52 you can see the censored name used? 02:28:15 there are a lot of 0.17 clans... 02:28:43 Kappacom Crawl Fighter 6 Enhanced Gammafunk Edition <- powerful name 02:28:58 The Fuck Wizards seem to have been allowed 02:29:00 so w/e 02:29:25 hm. if damnation lost rf++rc-, would we want to add anything else to it? 02:29:40 it already has mr+, for, uh, some reason 02:30:02 its built-in gimmick is good. i guess maybe we could add rn+? if we wanted? 02:30:23 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:31:05 PleasingFungus: so how would brimstone fiends end up looking? 02:31:13 the crossbow 02:31:24 oh 02:31:25 why did we do this to ourselves. 02:34:35 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:37:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:39:10 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:39:20 hm, damnation tile is still fiery 02:39:21 v0v 02:39:25 (crossbow, again) 02:39:37 crossbow? 02:40:19 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:41:04 PleasingFungus: might be a more generic placeholder tile that can be used 02:41:11 maybe pallete swap of an arte tile 02:41:20 until someone can make a damnation-flavored one 02:41:29 or tarnation-flavored, as koboldina likes to say 02:41:36 maybe i'll make my own 02:41:44 ...you don't have the POWER 02:42:05 !hellfire $channel 02:42:05 * Sequell ends ##crawl-dev in hellfire! You hear a strangely unpleasant explosion. 02:42:39 rip 02:43:05 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:46:33 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:00 are there any snippets of crawl that would demonstrate what "when you dodge, do THING" would look like code-wise? 02:47:02 idk what to do about mennas 02:47:04 -!- TonyMeatballs has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:47:21 friendfixit: i'm not sure we have a consistent concept of 'dodging' 02:47:34 oh true, it's really just a "miss" isn't it 02:47:51 back to the drawing board 02:48:12 hm 02:48:20 i guess we have count_action(CACT_DODGE, DODGE_EVASION) 02:48:36 which is only called in three places 02:48:39 so look at those, i guess 02:48:43 ok! 02:48:59 that's technically incomplete, but only for some truly exceptional special cases 02:52:55 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:53:35 -!- Piginabag has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:53:36 idk what to do about mennas 02:53:52 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-49-gb8736b8 02:54:09 what happened to mennas 02:54:27 -!- Melum has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:55:07 -!- InsideTheVoid has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:55:30 someone pointed out that his spells are disabled by silence 02:55:45 despite a huge part of his description being, "he has no tongue" 02:56:11 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:56:26 so... incoherent howling is the language he uses to cast spells! 02:56:45 kinda like hodor, but with more judgement 02:56:56 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 02:57:14 it's a bigger flavor glitch that he attacks a player bearing a Zin invo title imo ;) 02:58:21 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:59:50 let's not have that talk again... 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:14 PleasingFungus: ...do they not realize that it's possible to talk without a tongue? 03:01:22 fine by me! but the flavor glitches are fun 03:03:09 more specifically, the description specifically clarifies that he isn't talking 03:03:24 hm 03:03:27 Whether or not this angel is that same Mennas is something of a mystery, as he seems to have difficulty speaking. 03:03:35 that's more ambiguous than i remembered 03:03:45 enh. 03:05:20 it's bizarre that's even mentioned. if he didn't have difficulty speaking would he go around yelling "I AM MENNAS I AM MENNAS I AM MENNAS" 03:06:32 is there a way to identify *only the ego* of a randart weapon in an ITEM: spec, without giving the item to a monster? 03:07:17 oh, apparently ident:type does it 03:07:38 semantically weird, but problem solved 03:08:07 it does also identify the name of the randart (but not properties, pluses, curse status) 03:08:24 it's a good description btw 03:08:29 i'm quoting just the end 03:08:30 also 03:08:32 minmay 03:08:39 would you believe that fixing the issue you mentioned the other night 03:08:43 wrt slamming orb spiders into their own orbs 03:08:57 requires fucking around with a huge block of code that involves goto statements 03:09:04 I wouldn't believe that 03:09:19 mostly because I don't think I've ever mentioned such an issue 03:09:31 ah, sorry, you were just replying to it 03:09:41 20:22:32 vaguely related: shold orbs of destruction have rWind? 03:09:56 i was confusing this with the reporter of the 'vaguely related' thing 03:10:00 apologies 03:10:26 no need to apologize, it's not like you hired me to kill the wrong guy or something 03:11:06 -!- flappity has joined ##crawl-dev 03:16:55 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:19:22 not yet 03:20:05 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18.1-1-g2f07953 03:23:17 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:24:07 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:27:48 it seems that "falchion ego:holy_wrath randart" applies the holy brand after the artefact is generated...which means it can generate cursed or with an inappropriate name 03:30:07 neat 03:31:08 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-49-gb8736b8 (34) 03:37:51 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:43:36 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:56:34 -!- Rkd has quit [Client Quit] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01:56 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:07:41 has player-castable blinkbolt ever been tested in a trunk or cbro or the like? 04:07:55 not afaik 04:08:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:08:39 a similar spell exists in tome4 and is ludicrously fun 04:08:52 not as much lava and deep water in te4 though ;) 04:09:44 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 04:10:09 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]] 04:18:50 is there a way to circumvent this wizmode message? "_Spell 'Blinkbolt' is not a player castable spell." 04:19:06 could memorize, but not cast 04:23:20 -!- jerkstore has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:26:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 04:28:38 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:29:37 -!- jerkstoresup has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:30:20 -!- alien3456 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:31:26 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:32:02 -!- jerkstore has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:32:16 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:34:56 -!- jerkstoresup has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:36:23 -!- alien3456 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:38:01 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:40:41 -!- cmcbot has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:44:14 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:52:20 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:53:04 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04:29 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 05:09:06 -!- modargo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:21:21 -!- svendre_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:30:17 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:34:31 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:37:05 player-castable blinkbolt? 05:39:05 oh yes. 05:39:11 the 4-11 range would need to be narrower. maybe 5-5. so that it doesn't invalidate cblink 05:39:31 what is blinkbolt even 05:39:35 cast it on something and it blinks? 05:39:37 raiju spell 05:40:12 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/670a064fcf4e622d0fbbc2e18ea3d645548d15c6/crawl-ref/source/spl-data.h#L146 05:40:27 ooh 05:40:28 okay 05:40:29 that's neat 05:43:12 -!- modargo has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:24 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:59:12 -!- Nima_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:11 Hello. 06:00:56 I'm running DCSS with tiles on mac. I would like to bind the key [^.] in my .crawlrc but this doesn't seem to work. 06:01:36 Is this something I can file a bug report for? 06:02:08 Or is it only intended to bind CTRL-? where ? is a letter? 06:03:26 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:11:38 -!- Kramin42 is now known as Kramin 06:11:52 -!- bsdbeard has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:15:08 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:16:11 -!- fazisi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:19:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:27:35 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:30:17 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:32:02 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:40:29 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:45:37 -!- zxc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:50:12 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 06:51:27 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:48 -!- Annabella has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:46 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:20 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: Wahahahahaha~~!!] 07:06:18 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:09:18 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:10:37 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:18:56 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:19:05 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:19:18 -!- Badiou has quit [Client Quit] 07:23:47 -!- bsdbeard is now known as bsdbear 07:23:49 -!- bsdbear is now known as bsdbeard 07:23:50 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:25:58 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:28:31 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:57 MuffinSoup (L27 HOFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 556: mid cache bogosity: mid 9524 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=139 mid=0 (Abyss:2) 07:32:12 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:35:39 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:42:53 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:44:50 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:54:36 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:57:20 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01:39 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:15:38 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:20:09 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:21:41 -!- tollymain has joined ##crawl-dev 08:24:24 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:25:37 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:29:38 -!- dpeg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:29:41 !time 08:29:41 Time: May 06, 2016, 12:29:41 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 7 hours, 30 minutes and 18 seconds. 08:31:25 <|amethyst> friendfixit: you need to either add an entry for it in zap_data.h (which might or might not be feasible), or add it to the switch (spell) in _do_cast (and not return SPRET_NONE) 08:31:55 <|amethyst> friendfixit: err, zap-data.h with a hyphen not underscore 08:32:48 oh good morning. thank you! 08:33:35 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:37:16 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:39:29 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:44:07 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:55:05 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01:32 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:06:58 -!- Mandevil has left ##crawl-dev 09:15:14 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 09:30:52 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:35:00 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:37:31 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:38:19 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:40:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 09:47:22 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:49:13 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52:39 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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(I'm running the tiles version on mac.) 10:17:24 the ^x syntax is only defined for letters. there's a different syntax for extended key events 10:17:57 you can use macro definition to see what the expansion for a given key is (it will look like \{nnn}) and then hit ESC to abort the macro 10:19:58 the problem is that any control- where is not a letter is nonstandard and will be different on every OS (and potentially every different keyboard layout on each OS) 10:26:42 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:26 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:30:04 (strictly speaking: letter, or one of [ \ ] ^ _. take a look at the definition of ASCII or ISO 8859-1 to see why) 10:30:35 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:31:49 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:02 -!- Denapoli has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:43:56 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:45:02 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:45:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:45:27 -!- Shard1697_ is now known as Shard1697 10:48:33 -!- TonyMeatballs_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:56:35 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:57:09 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:59:25 -!- Dracunos7 is now known as Dracunos 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:02:49 geekosaur: Ok, thank you! 11:11:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:12:46 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:12:52 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:15:33 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:16:09 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:17:45 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:19:32 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:19:34 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:19:54 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:20:51 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 11:21:20 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:06 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:27:10 -!- brosephalon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:32:41 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:48 !time 11:32:49 Time: May 06, 2016, 03:32:49 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 4 hours, 27 minutes and 10 seconds. 11:36:09 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:41:12 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:10 -!- Arivia has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:47:26 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:47:51 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Client Quit] 11:51:59 still "no usable signature". tempted to nuke all my dev certs and re-download. thanks apple. 11:52:36 thapple 11:52:43 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:55:22 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:10 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:00:18 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:06:37 -!- lak has quit [Client Quit] 12:07:37 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:09:49 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:11:56 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 3 hours, 29 minutes and 13 seconds. 12:31:52 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:32:13 -!- serq_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:32:43 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:33:39 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:37:06 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:37:06 -!- siepu has quit [Client Quit] 12:42:26 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:43:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:21 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:35 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:51:21 -!- Eronarn__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:51:50 -!- Eronarn__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:51 -!- cd4 has quit [Client Quit] 12:57:21 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:58:13 -!- Floodkiller_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:04:04 seems like a certain ip registered a lot of names last night on cjr 13:04:08 -!- TonyMeatballs has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:04:28 I have been deleting accounts for the actual users who have emailed me though 13:04:44 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-49-gb8736b8 (34) 13:05:28 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:06:46 why not just delete everything that certain ip registered? 13:07:51 we're gonna have a slew of griefs aren't we? 13:08:33 -!- Arivia has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:08:56 no. the tournament will be perfect and flawless. 13:10:56 ZiBuDo: did you ever delete an account for zzxc? 13:11:22 oh, ill do that now, I am deleting all of that certain ips accounts 13:11:22 because I made one about a week ago 13:11:25 but I can't seem to be able to log in 13:12:13 oh give me a sec 13:12:14 <|amethyst> ZiBuDo: what IP was that btw? 13:12:21 121.142.158.208 13:12:21 <|amethyst> ZiBuDo: (you can /msg it to me) 13:12:24 <|amethyst> or that 13:12:40 : o, zxc, i have an zzxc account 13:12:50 check your pm 13:13:23 !time 13:13:24 Time: May 06, 2016, 05:13:23 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 2 hours, 46 minutes and 36 seconds. 13:13:31 -!- n1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:46 It's About Time. 13:13:47 !messages 13:13:48 No messages for ZiBuDo. 13:14:28 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:14:51 I PMed you just now 13:15:40 <|amethyst> that IP has connected to CAO but never actually logged in 13:16:13 ominous......... 13:16:15 yea that ip made a shit ton of accounts, even some like gammafunk who were already signed up 13:16:41 wait, how did it make accounts that were already signed up? 13:16:59 he didnt, but he tried 13:17:02 ahh 13:17:11 |amethyst: unrelated: do you remember talking a few weeks ago about replacing the unrand: syntax? 13:19:13 <|amethyst> was it that long ago? 13:19:17 <|amethyst> but yeah 13:20:27 however long ago it was. 13:20:52 it turns out to be very easy to implement in the code, but the trouble is changing the existing vaults that use the fallback behavior 13:21:30 not sure what the best approach is 13:24:24 -!- rarewave has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 13:26:05 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:26:27 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:27:06 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:29 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:30:16 !tell gammafunk would you want to make an announcement to mention that people should register on cjr incase of the namestealers, also some people registered before it was official and i nuked the registration db, so we should mention that too. I made an announcement on cjr, but it would probably get more traction elsewhere 13:30:17 ZiBuDo: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 13:31:10 problem is an announcement warning to register names might give some people the idea of registering other people's names... 13:31:17 New branch created: unrand_mapdef (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/unrand_mapdef 13:31:17 03PleasingFungus02 07[unrand_mapdef] * 0.19-a0-48-g57dced1: Initial work on improving unrand syntax 10(8 minutes ago, 3 files, 26+ 31-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/57dced1e8451 13:31:40 -!- FatShack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:31:54 but the people that registered before the db nuke probably all use irc 13:33:39 -!- FatShack has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:09 -!- bsdbeard has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:34:25 oh my god 13:34:40 this is the most gimmick server of all time 13:34:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:35:22 ??cjr 13:35:23 cjr[1/2]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks). SSH login info: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html. Currently games are visible on Sequell, but CAO scoring is a work in progress. 13:36:35 PleasingFungus: you're just saying that because it has a jorgrun pointer 13:37:27 no 13:37:35 register an account and look at your rcfile 13:37:54 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:38:13 lol 13:38:17 nice 13:38:55 also 13:38:57 have you seen the homepage 13:39:06 yeah 13:39:13 I didn't look at it carefully, but I saw all the stuff 13:39:31 what do you have against george costanza 13:41:14 i love him. i want to be his child. 13:41:22 !times 13:41:23 !time 13:41:24 Time: May 06, 2016, 05:41:23 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 2 hours, 18 minutes and 36 seconds. 13:41:33 anyway. so here's a question. 13:41:40 right now, with gell's gravitas, you can slam a monster into an iood. this does not set off the iood. 13:41:50 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:41:54 what's the correct behaviour here? 13:42:32 force lance has the same issue iirc 13:43:34 they both call actor::collide(), i think 13:44:03 there's two options i'm thinking of: make the iood hit (not checking the defender's shield), or make it hit (checking the shield) 13:44:10 there are problems with both 13:44:18 -!- Kramell has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:44:55 i'd tend towards the latter i guess 13:45:21 what are the problems with it? 13:45:25 the problem there is: reflection 13:45:35 ah 13:45:43 PleasingFungus: sounds like a good reason to remove Gell's. <.< >.> 13:45:48 !remove Lasty_ 13:45:49 03PleasingFungus * 0.18-a0-2580-g4795a7b: Remove Lasty_ 10(in the future, 28 files, 339+ 712-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4795a7b 13:46:09 That barely gets you any millimarvins! 13:46:20 !remove permanent teleportation traps 13:46:21 03Lightli * 0.18-a0-2581-g2c5a3e2: Remove permanent teleportation traps 10(in the future, 4 files, 734+ 332-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c5a3e2 13:46:41 another option would be to just not allow colliding with it, in the same way that stuff doesn't get pushed into water/lava 13:46:50 ahh, i like that 13:47:01 and in the same way that you can't move into them 13:47:03 at present 13:47:05 yeah 13:49:49 completely unrelated: did you know that trog's burn books has a hunger cost? 13:50:34 it's about a seventh of a sultana. 13:50:39 hey, the energy to set a book on fire has to come from somewhere 13:50:46 Realism In Crawl 13:50:47 ??sultana 13:50:48 food[1/3]: Goes in mouth/beak. Without carnivore or herbivore: Meat is 5000 nutrition. Bread is 4400 nutrition. Royal jelly is 2000 nutrition. A chunk is 1000 nutrition. Fruit is 850. Beef jerky/pizza is 1500. 13:50:52 haha 13:50:58 sultana was 70 13:50:58 how much nutrition wasa sultana 13:51:01 oh 13:53:04 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:50 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:55:59 -!- yesno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:56:12 -!- yesno_ is now known as yesno 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:39 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:01:05 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:50 sub-sultana divine ability food costs: divine shield, corpse drop, animate dead, recall, heroism, minor destruction/servant, trog's hand, bend space, request jelly, sunlight, bend time, scry 14:03:02 smiting is approx a sultana. 14:04:18 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:05:06 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:05:21 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 14:07:21 Animate dead takes < 70 food? 14:07:25 It always felt like more to me 14:07:32 50 14:07:35 yred abil 14:07:37 huh. 14:07:42 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:07:49 I suppose it's just that I'm not chopping as much when I use it 14:07:59 oh, apparently it's 50-100 actually 14:08:19 so about a sultana 14:08:23 hunger costs are randomized? 14:08:35 base + random2avg(base, 2) 14:08:44 same as piety costs 14:08:47 yeah 14:08:49 well, sort of 14:08:52 didn't know that 14:08:59 neither did I! 14:09:31 talking with dcss-ca guy reminded me to review mp/hunger costs for divine abilities 14:09:39 since i think most of them aren't well thought-out 14:10:47 did you know that lugonu's abilities are super hunger-inducing? 14:14:07 i did know that banishment is 14:14:25 is bend space? i thought that one was fairly cheap hunger-wise 14:14:40 bend space is cheap, yeah 14:15:16 the rest are pricey 14:15:26 esp. corrupt & enter the abyss (not that you're spamming those in any case...) 14:15:45 yeah, the hunger cost for those is basically irrelevant anyway 14:15:59 it could be 0, or it could be enough to drop me a full satiation level, and i wouldn't much care 14:16:05 yes 14:16:12 heh 14:16:35 they're about a fruit each, or half a pizza 14:16:44 very high as ability costs go 14:17:12 quiz: what's the highest food-costing ability? 14:17:28 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:34 berserk 14:18:35 berserk is kinda weird, because it only costs when you come down 14:18:47 no 14:18:53 there's also a startup cost, for trogzerk, anyway 14:18:55 PleasingFungus: divine vigour? 14:19:07 amalloy: yep! 14:19:29 tied with zerk, technically, but front-loaded 14:19:31 ely is like the god of digestion 14:19:54 less than in the old days, maybe 14:20:23 i wasn't really around for the old days. i only played one or two games in which ely valued weapon sacs and pacification 14:20:44 (the reason i only played one or two such games is it was awful) 14:21:06 rip 14:21:08 !time 14:21:08 Time: May 06, 2016, 06:21:08 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 1 hour, 38 minutes and 51 seconds. 14:21:42 -!- MaBunny has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:21:58 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:56 PleasingFungus: Aside from Ely, is there any god whose abilities are meaningfully limited by food cost? 14:23:01 !tell Lasty Try this one weird trick to double your computer's RAM: add "# TEAMCAPTAIN gammafunk" to your rcfile 14:23:02 amalloy: OK, I'll let lasty know. 14:23:08 well, and maybe trog 14:23:08 dang, just think of him and he appears 14:23:27 amalloy: that IS a weird trick. Imagine gammafunk being the captain of anything! 14:23:40 amalloy: more seriously, are you putting together a devs team? 14:23:47 Lasty_: it's just me and gf 14:23:49 but we invite you 14:24:00 oh and wheals said he wanted to join 14:24:04 but hasn't put it in his rc yet 14:24:17 maybe lugonu, maybe oka (probably not oka) 14:24:19 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l52WnNWM0226_Wy9IafvC1gTdFyNYTtMRmSOqoZEHj4/edit#gid=0 14:24:27 amalloy: I appreciate the invite, but 1) I'm going to be super low participation this time around I think -- gonna be in Germany on a business trip for most of the tourney -- and 2) I already got drafted by the AWBW guys 14:24:30 (their funeral) 14:24:39 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:40 The build has errored. (unrand_mapdef - 57dced1 #5415 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/128357106 14:24:40 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:25:00 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:25:03 -!- zxc has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:25:05 -!- hong has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:18 sif's abilities are meaningfully limited by food 14:25:22 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:25:26 in that sif's only useful ability is aa 14:25:27 hi 14:25:41 ah, true 14:25:43 amalloy: ah, true 14:25:44 hong: hi! 14:25:47 Lasty_: ah, true 14:25:48 0.18 version update was ok in CWZ 14:25:50 hi! 14:25:51 hi hong 14:25:58 excellent! 14:25:59 PleasingFungus: ah, true to you too! 14:26:01 that's everything, right? 14:26:05 *all the servers 14:27:25 We could probably remove the food costs for non-Sif/Ely god powers without anyone even noticing. Arguably there might be other god powers we should limit by food, but nothing comes to mind immediately. Fedhas's Evolve would be the first one that comes to mind. 14:27:43 Read: once something came to mind, it was Fedhas :p 14:27:49 trog 14:28:25 PleasingFungus: to prevent spamming Bros? 14:29:00 berserk's food cost is significant 14:29:32 to some extent, other food costs become more serious once you have serious pressure 14:30:07 PleasingFungus: but if you're w/ Trog there's no other food pressure -- you can't use spells or other god abilities. I suppose it could impact rod use... 14:30:15 you're misunderstanding me 14:30:24 -!- glaas has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 14:30:28 w/o corpse sacrifice, you generally have all the food you want w/ Trog, even w/ berserk's huge food cost... 14:30:31 maybe the food cost for like zin's imprison is significant too? i dunno 14:30:38 amalloy: skeptical 14:30:51 esp given vitalize 14:31:14 PleasingFungus: I'm not sure I get what you mean -- are you saying that if you're under non-food pressure, food pressure gets more serious? 14:31:21 no 14:31:31 Lasty_: i haven't done much trog (any?) since corpse sacrifice was removed, but it certainly used to be the case that food could be a serious issue with trog, esp early on 14:31:37 PleasingFungus: vitalize doesn't give you a net-positive hunger anymore 14:31:40 PleasingFungus: vital- 14:31:46 yes, it doesn't give you any food 14:31:50 sad 14:31:54 PleasingFungus: yeah, once corpse sac got removed, that pressure eased up considerably 14:31:57 ah 14:32:01 imo increase trog's food costs 14:32:21 PleasingFungus: I'm not sure that will meaningfully work -- you don't really spam Trog abilities. 14:32:25 uh 14:32:29 did food really used to be an issue with trog early? i think it was just a perceived issue 14:32:32 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:32:38 trog's hand gets spammed like crazy 14:32:40 if you're hungry, you eat stuff; if you're not, you sac it and get some piety 14:33:00 PleasingFungus: not really. You use it frequently, but rarely do you activate it multiple times per fight 14:33:15 the places where food costs tend to matter are when they prevent you from continuing to spam the ability 14:33:21 matter of defining 'spam', i suppose 14:33:36 Which is why Ely's matter to some degree 14:33:37 Hey, Sequell doesn't have games for 0.18 cao. Are they being tracked by tourny scripts? 14:33:44 the main cost of trog's hand is the regen rate, isn't it? rather than the initial cost 14:33:44 imo 14:34:00 hunger-wise, that is 14:34:18 ??tournament 14:34:18 tournament[1/5]: The 0.18 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC May 6 to 20:00 UTC May 22. Rules: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/ Leaderboard: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/overview.html (not done yet!) 14:34:19 I suppose increasing trog hunger could have an impact on trolls in low-corpse branches 14:34:23 the point of mp costs is to limit spamming within a fight; the point of food costs is to limit spamming over the course of a game 14:34:28 where is the tournament held anyways 14:34:34 the point of piety costs is somewhere in the middle 14:34:46 Lightli: ? all public servers 14:34:50 mostly food costs don't work and/or aren't necessary for that 14:34:53 k 14:34:58 Lightli: stockholm, sweden. 14:34:59 PleasingFungus: sure, but as many have noted, hunger does not actually work to limit use over the whole game 14:35:06 -!- Sprort has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:35:07 PleasingFungus: except sometimes on spriggans and trolls 14:35:16 because chunks 14:35:39 not even trolls really 14:35:44 i would say that some food costs are severe enough that they do have a measurable impact 14:35:46 !lg * ktyp=starvation !nem recent s=crace 14:35:47 2708 games for * (ktyp=starvation !nem recent): 805x Troll, 331x Minotaur, 272x Gargoyle, 205x Demonspawn, 191x Deep Dwarf, 170x Hill Orc, 94x Draconian, 92x Formicid, 87x Human, 63x Ogre, 62x Octopode, 55x Vine Stalker, 43x Naga, 42x High Elf, 39x Demigod, 38x Deep Elf, 33x Centaur, 26x Merfolk, 19x Tengu, 18x Halfling, 10x Kobold, 9x Spriggan, 2x Lacertilian, 2x Felid 14:35:48 e.g. channel, if used heavily 14:36:01 i guess that's not a good query 14:36:11 doesn't have to end in starvation if food starts constraining your options 14:36:25 PleasingFungus: I don't think I've ever been short on food due to god ability spam. I've been short on food due to over-use of super-high hunger spells and sometimes due to rod use. 14:36:26 reminds me of a discussion about consumables from a while back 14:36:34 i have! 14:36:47 how?! 14:36:58 trying to remember if it was god or staff channeling... 14:37:04 !hs . kocj 14:37:05 4. PleasingFungus the Sorcerer (L27 KoCj of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 13 runes on 2014-10-19 19:11:10, with 15225289 points after 76630 turns and 11:13:47. 14:37:10 ahh, must have been staff 14:37:15 !lg * cao v=0.18 14:37:15 No games for * (cao v=0.18). 14:37:19 similar effect, though 14:37:23 yeah, not even berserk really hungers enough 14:37:30 that guy ended up completely running out of food and having to bail from extended 14:37:32 very memorable game 14:37:39 gozag reasons 14:37:41 haha 14:37:43 just buy more 14:37:43 I had a HOBe do the same thing 14:37:59 except I was lazy that game and ate nothing but permafood past earlygame 14:37:59 lol 14:37:59 the problem is that food costs only matter if they make you consume permafood, and even then only if you consume a lot of it 14:38:06 or if they interfere with you tactically 14:38:08 sure 14:38:10 yeah 14:38:13 most food costs don't work 14:38:39 and most of the very high level spells that hunger like crazy aren't really used all that much 14:38:43 PleasingFungus: i don't really think that "i got 13 runes and i was low on food after that" is a good argument in support of "food costs limit your strategic options". stuff that happens after 13 runes is not really limiting your options 14:38:59 ? 14:39:00 you usually don't need to fire storm literally everything 14:39:20 it limited my options, insofar as: i could not get 14 runes without starving to death 14:39:42 Lasty_: where are you in Germany? 14:39:59 dpeg_: I'll be in Berlin in the week of the 15th. Are you in that area? 14:40:06 extended is like a whole different game. and it's not hard to net food-positive in pan if you're powerful enough to get 13 runes 14:40:20 amalloy: also the abyss 14:40:36 !lg . starvation 14:40:37 1. darkli the Crack Shot (L11 CeHu of Okawaru), starved to death on D:11 on 2014-02-23 05:06:12, with 10599 points after 13190 turns and 0:34:52. 14:40:48 putting aside the argument over whether that char could actually have gone food-positive in pan 14:40:51 pan seems better for that than abyss to me, because you can eat a lot of demonspawn, but maybe i'm wrong. either of them works, yeah 14:40:56 Note that game I only starved to death because I held an arrow against a hungry ghost in the hope that it would kill me 14:40:56 if you are saying "you could have just scummed pan for food" 14:41:00 you have lost the argument 14:41:01 morally 14:41:28 PleasingFungus: arguably, if the argument is "you can run out of food in 13 runes under a rare circumstance", you've lost that argument too 14:41:29 fr make pan longer 14:41:52 (more seriously, are there still plans to shorten pan?) 14:41:52 -!- Sprort has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:41:54 !banish Lightli 14:41:54 PleasingFungus casts a spell. Lightli is cast into the Abyss! 14:41:55 -!- MaBunny has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:42:06 Lasty_: I live in Berlin, sitting in that city right now :) If you feel like it, I'd love to meet! 14:42:10 * Lightli escapes from the Abyss! 14:42:12 -!- zero_one has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:42:21 dpeg_: We should absolutely meet! 14:42:24 <3 14:42:37 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:42:44 gammafunk: planning to start your realtime run when the tourney starts? 14:42:48 Lasty_: drop me a mail a few days before you arrive, and we'll set up something. 14:43:07 Can discuss in private how to decimate Crawl species most efficiently etc. 14:43:07 I'm not sure what my schedule will look like -- my understanding is that the local team has a ton of stuff planned -- but I'm sure we will find a way to meet up. I'll send you my deets. 14:43:11 Lasty_: you said, "I've never been short of food due to overuse of god abilities." anecdote. I was bringing up a game in which i remembered being short of food due to overuse of god abilities (though that turned out to be slightly off) - anecdote! 14:43:19 !times 14:43:20 !time 14:43:21 Time: May 06, 2016, 06:43:21 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 1 hour, 16 minutes and 38 seconds. 14:43:53 PleasingFungus: true, now we have an anecdote re: channeling hunger in an extended game 14:43:58 and that's not nothing 14:44:16 but I do think that we should calibrate food around the 3 rune game 14:44:22 i died to starvation once. nemelex unreasons 14:44:28 lol 14:44:30 how? 14:44:31 I used to have food trouble with spellcasting spriggans, but I am sure that's my problem. Never with Trog, though. 14:44:32 famine 14:44:42 man, I played Nem recently, and I just cannot get behind that god 14:44:50 and i was carrying zero food, because i thought my "gourmand" meant i could never run into hunger issues 14:44:51 Lasty_: we should also discuss that, btw. 14:44:59 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l52WnNWM0226_Wy9IafvC1gTdFyNYTtMRmSOqoZEHj4/edit#gid=0 my current thoughts on costs 14:45:00 dpeg_: sounds like a good idea :) 14:45:11 amalloy: oh, the pain! 14:45:16 yellow = maybe remove, red = maybe remove, green = maybe increase 14:45:21 PleasingFungus: i think you need to change a thing to make that public 14:45:24 oops 14:45:27 PleasingFungus: requested acces 14:45:28 s 14:45:48 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l52WnNWM0226_Wy9IafvC1gTdFyNYTtMRmSOqoZEHj4/edit?usp=sharing try again 14:46:30 PleasingFungus: yellow and red are both maybe remove? 14:46:37 oops 14:46:38 re: Nem, having too many decks was a problem, but also that you mostly want the summon effects from deck of war, and you want way more destruction decks than you get, and also that Nem sometimes decides to kill you 14:46:39 red = probably 14:46:42 i'm really good rn 14:46:52 yeah 14:47:26 As someone who actually likes the Summoner playstyle, Nemelex is still too tedious and finicky for my tastes 14:47:45 Is he still considered the strongest god in the game these days actually? 14:47:46 First we take halflings, then we take the cards. 14:47:48 Making +1 to making receive corpses take more hunger 14:48:02 are you quoting someone, Lightli? 14:48:15 Lightli: Nem has probably the strongest burst power of any god 14:48:16 Lasty_: very surprised to see you supporting an increased hunger cost 14:48:17 Lightli: but otherwise probably not 14:48:19 :P 14:48:28 i'd say some of chei's could be increased rather than removed, but that mostly looks reasonable to me at a glance 14:48:32 PleasingFungus: I support it in that case because I think it would impact how I use the ability 14:48:33 PleasingFungus: No, I was wondering that 14:48:44 PleasingFungus: I often activate it a bunch of times in a row 14:48:59 and it often feels like a pretty sick thing to be able to do 14:49:03 MarvinPA: chei's weird insofar as he has a bunch of hunger reduction effects 14:49:04 yeah, receive corpses is a skill people tend to spam 14:49:04 I thought the plan with Nemelex was to implement that hand of cards idea 14:49:15 hello 14:49:15 that was |amethyst's plan 14:49:24 however, neil was slain by a gang of roving dwarves 14:49:28 rip 14:49:30 PleasingFungus: those just counteract the increased aut cost of walking, i thought 14:49:33 !seen amethyst 14:49:33 Sorry dpeg_, I haven't seen amethyst. 14:49:36 PleasingFungus: that's meant to be just to bring it back to hunger-neutral, yeah 14:49:36 Re: Yred, I'd be in favor of either removing all the costs or making them much more significant 14:49:47 increased int reduces spell hunger costs :P 14:50:23 true! 14:50:23 i'm surprised the cost for chei's ab is as high as it is. it's one of the abilities i do sorta spam when i play chei, and increasing the hunger cost would have a significant impact 14:50:47 the hunger for Step could be removed, because nobody spams that 14:50:55 that and slouch i'd say could stay as-is, yeah 14:51:01 or maybe increase slouch a bit 14:51:18 you can't really spam slouch anyway because it costs so much piety/mp, doesn't it? 14:51:20 I think I'd like to see Fedhas's hunger costs go way up. Hunger competes w/ piety directly on Fedhas, and I think it could be fun to make them fight more. 14:51:28 like i've hit it four times in a fight, rarely, but not more 14:51:38 dpeg_: What's your nemelex plan 14:51:40 and I think there's some thematic juice to "plant god wants more food" 14:52:37 IMO, slouch is very situational - it doesnt do a lot generally, but against a pack of killer bees or other fast moving things it rocks 14:52:37 i've set the sheet to be publicly editable, so feel free to put down thoughts on what increased food costs should be 14:52:44 PleasingFungus: thanks! 14:52:48 I don't think Dith or Pak need hunger costs, tho Pak hunger costs do interact w/ rods 14:52:48 so spamming isn't really necessary because of it's effectiveness 14:53:22 yeah, the rod thing is what made me uncertain 14:53:57 Lightli: I think the decks and cards should go. A number of card effects are good, these can survive in other places (spells, consumables, god effects). 14:54:19 Lightli: Ideally, there'd be a replacement god (with same name), but I'd also support deicide with no immediate replacement. 14:54:28 you and gammafunk... 14:54:48 I'd prefer trying out the hand of cards idea first 14:55:07 And then if that doesn't work give up and start from scratch with the "god of luck" deal 14:55:39 ??c-r-d 14:55:39 c-r-d[1/2]: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/crawl-ref-discuss 14:55:48 Lightli: yes, fine with me. Nemelex contains some of my ideas (actual active abilities, deck rarities, some card effects), but in hindsight this was all a really bad idea, from the start :( I should've seen that but was to engrossed in redoing gods. 14:56:19 haha 14:56:32 hey, he's much better than he used to be 14:56:36 remember portable altars? 14:56:37 yes, but still... 14:56:40 (I don't, that was before my time) 14:56:50 of course, I was there when we started from old Nemelex :) 14:57:10 ...the idea of a god defined by a really long list of special effects is very bad. 14:57:16 wow, that's a huge food cost for growth 14:57:25 though ofc it's smaller than like. the actual food cost 14:57:30 PleasingFungus: yeah 14:57:32 given it's going to be, what, 750 * n 14:57:37 seems sort of redundant actually 14:57:51 and of course, you do know that removing Nemelex would cause a firestorm of hatred that would dwarf MD removal and singularity removal combined 14:57:57 PleasingFungus: it would limit your ability to panic-grow a defense garden 14:58:01 Lightli: seems unlikely 14:58:07 Lasty_: would it? 14:58:09 and put somewhat more pressure on your corpse-praying 14:58:17 PleasingFungus: well, evolve is also 300 there 14:58:20 Lightli: well, that's a pleasant side effect but not really what my main goal 14:58:30 evolve is already 750 14:58:44 hm, i keep using 750 but that's the wrong # 14:58:51 PleasingFungus: but that's in fruit; no sane fedhas worshipper will eat their fruit 14:58:55 it costs one "bonus piety" 14:58:59 haha 14:59:24 if we're trying to put food pressure on fedhasites, then surely in some circumstances it *would* be the right move to eat fruit 14:59:30 dpeg_: What would you change regarding the special effects; cut out all the ones that replicate regular spells? 14:59:30 oh noes! 15:00:00 PleasingFungus: perhaps! 15:00:02 Lightli: no idea, but currently Nemelex is the god with highest cognitive load, but a looooong shot, and that's annoying 15:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:05 lmao @ 'chei could use the buff' 15:00:08 Dev Memes 15:00:45 I just can't bring myself to make a chei worshipper die to a pack of monsters because they were too hungry to spam Slouch one more time. It already take a ton of piety. 15:00:53 at some point, we'll have to talk about nerfing Trog, I'm afraid 15:00:58 woo 15:01:14 dpeg_: will we? 15:01:58 how would you nerf Trog? 15:02:07 nerfing berserk again? 15:02:15 oh, just in the numbers... higher piety costs, for example 15:02:39 I recall BiA already being high in piety cost 15:02:41 Lasty_: food costs for qaz? 15:02:46 yes, that one is alright imo 15:02:55 PleasingFungus: They're abilities you might want to spam. I'm fine w/ 0 also. 15:03:02 i was surprised to see that qaz doesn't already cost hunger 15:03:07 I don't know that Qaz gets any more interesting by adding hunger. 15:03:09 i think the point of qaz is to let you spam those, tbh 15:03:12 yeah 15:03:18 or: increase food cost for Trog rage (I cannot read PF's spreadsheet right now, perhaps it is already in there?) 15:03:28 !time 15:03:28 Time: May 06, 2016, 07:03:28 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 56 minutes and 31 seconds. 15:03:38 Qaz does already make you pay plenty for thos cool 'splosions 15:03:38 we're both undecided about pak, haha 15:03:50 Arguably Pak is also to let you spam cool rods 15:03:55 in which case 0 hunger seems right 15:04:04 v0v 15:04:14 wrt yred, i feel like the only significant food cost you're changing there is animate foo; enslave soul is not spammed 15:04:34 PleasingFungus: Vamp draining also sometimes gets spammed. 15:04:40 drain life? 15:04:42 er ueaj 15:04:43 yeah 15:04:44 yeah, but you're not changing it... 15:05:01 200's already pretty high 15:05:09 Enslave soull 15:05:12 one idea 15:05:13 as ability costs go, yeah 15:05:16 's hunger cost doesn't really matter 15:05:19 yeah 15:05:22 I'd be fine w/ it being 0 15:05:31 make berserk take more hunger to use and not work if you're hungry at all 15:05:33 could be 0, could be something like 500 for 'food drama' 15:05:42 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 15:05:45 like, wow, that ability's so powerful it sucks up a huge amount of nutrition 15:05:47 Lightli: Buff to *Rage items 15:05:54 PleasingFungus: heh, yeah 15:05:56 true 15:06:00 reason i was leaving the high-tier lugonu's untouched 15:06:02 corrupt/enter 15:06:09 even though their food costs aren't really relevant 15:06:12 I do think there's something to be said for food drama 15:06:23 (or if you really want to nerf Trog, make it so you have to be at least full to go berserk) 15:06:47 interesting 15:06:48 Lightli: aka the vampire treatment 15:07:24 Lightli: i can see the reddit headlines now: "Trog new worst god in 0.19" 15:07:26 "i'm a vampire! i'm a vampire!" -- nicholas trog, probably 15:07:27 Side note on vampires: going from Thirsty to satiated on a vampire by biting a swamp dragon while standing in a poisonous cloud feels really dumb 15:07:34 lol 15:07:45 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 15:07:47 did you see minmay's thing about vampire rc from the other night? 15:07:49 -!- hong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:07:52 PleasingFungus: no 15:08:01 Cliff's notes? 15:08:09 -!- DIonized has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:08:11 they get rc++ at nearly bloodless/bloodless 15:08:18 true 15:08:20 which is higher than other undead races *or* monster vampires get 15:08:24 heh 15:08:26 true 15:08:45 I don't know why I thought you meant an rcfile for vampires 15:08:54 but yeah, that seems like something we should change 15:08:56 scarletrj...? 15:09:16 lmao, there's a scarletrjrobin 15:09:24 ??scarletrj 15:09:25 I don't have a page labeled scarletrj in my learndb. 15:09:29 I don't get the reference 15:09:40 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:09:50 ??crawl players[6 15:09:51 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/ScarletJ.rc 15:10:14 lol 15:10:17 amazing 15:10:30 wow 15:11:11 wow, i hadn't seen [7 before 15:11:18 i feel like misty mountains there is not the led zeppelin song 15:11:25 ??crawl players[7 15:11:25 crawl players[7/10]: &watch mnoleg69reagan42 No milestones for mnoleg69reagan42. dude i'm mnoleg69reagan420 irc cuts off the last character 15:11:31 either that or i have been massively misinformed about the lyrical content of the zeppelin song 15:11:39 hahahahaa 15:12:03 lol 15:12:46 I may need to try playing a game w/ this scarletrj rcfile 15:13:01 ProzacElf: google says it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQNU2bopSqA 15:13:07 don't ask me what that has to do with mountains 15:13:33 . . . wow, scarletrj has its own self-applied version of Sacrifice Courage 15:13:44 ? 15:13:53 check CrowdAlert 15:14:12 gammafunk: # TEAMCAPTAIN gammafunk right? 15:14:14 You are fighting " .. n .. " enemies. Flee! 15:14:19 heh 15:14:50 Speaking of totally sweet crawl hacks for best performance, here's my best crawl advice ever: 15:15:10 Lasty_: walker and morgan were trying to talk me into using a pro-blowgun slogan for team 2 =p 15:15:28 &rc . 0.18 cao 15:15:30 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-0.18/yollama.rc 15:15:31 {[1]="You shout \"Bō-rě-bō-luó-mì!\"", 15:15:38 Pick a password that's at least 40 characters long including at least 10 special characters, caps, numbers, etc. If you can't type it correctly on your first try, go do something instead of playing crawl. 15:15:41 the best warcry 15:15:55 also, pick the password while you're drunk =p 15:16:33 ProzacElf: seems fair :D 15:16:48 wheals: copy/paste of my rcfile, which works: # TEAMCAPTAIN gammafunk 15:17:01 i like "Blowguns don't kill Monsters; Monsters kill Monsters" 15:17:08 there's nothing in that 15:17:09 but i can't get my teammates to discuss it =p 15:17:17 amalloy: are beetles allowed on the team 15:17:19 yours seems to be the default 15:17:32 ProzacElf: why not? 15:17:32 wheals: it was the wrong one; i went and found the right one 15:18:01 heh, rast never seems to be around when i am. and vible is just like "sure, sounds good" 15:18:11 Discussion achieved! 15:18:17 true! 15:18:26 &rc :amalloy 0.18 cbro 15:18:27 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.18/amalloy.rc 15:18:29 although i do still like "Winners Don't Do Slugs" 15:18:39 PleasingFungus: can you prove you're a dev? 15:18:41 haha 15:18:42 solid 15:18:48 amalloy: i'm a dev...!? 15:20:07 PleasingFungus: but srsly, of course you are invited to the team 15:20:17 max team size is 6 or something, isn't it? we'd be up to 4 with you 15:20:41 oh well, we've got a week to finalize, right/ 15:20:43 ? 15:20:44 ya 15:20:48 !lg pleasingfungus ikiller~~(doom_hound||spark_wasp) 15:20:49 Broken query near ')' 15:20:52 sry 15:21:02 maybe i'll pick one up during the tourney 15:21:03 !lg pleasingfungus (ikiller~~doom_hound||ikiller~~spark_wasp) 15:21:03 Broken query near '~~doom_hound||ikiller~~spark_wasp)' 15:21:05 weirdly http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/#clans doesn't say how many players are allowed? 15:21:14 want to do an extended game to see how much all the whining about malmut actually amounts to 15:21:23 7 15:21:26 it's mentioned at the top of the file, but not in the clans section 15:21:29 7 chokos 15:21:37 is what the malmut whining amounts to 15:21:47 how much is that in snozzcumbers? 15:21:51 i'm still so glad rMut is gone 15:21:54 i think it's 13 15:21:55 I should make a query to see which devs have died to their own monster creations 15:21:59 haha 15:21:59 amalloy: you're welcome! 15:22:05 watch, i'll die to a dart slug 15:22:07 it's no problem at all to dodge muts, and it's more fun that way 15:22:08 i haven't had to do a choko/snozz conversion in a while 15:22:08 new ignominy 15:22:12 PleasingFungus: haha 15:22:17 and i don't have to put on a crummy amulet instead of the cool one 15:22:28 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:29 amalloy: yeah, these days I'm pretty excited to find amulets 15:22:31 i've apparently died to dart slugs 8 times D= 15:22:33 I used to be super bored by them 15:22:42 lasty: i think for the first commit i'm gonna scratch fedhas's food costs, and leave a fedhas rework for a second commit (possibly yours?), since i'm very undecided about it 15:22:51 i like to find amulets so i can bitch long and loud about how much i hate dismissal =p 15:22:51 !rangedignominy ProzacElf 15:22:54 PleasingFungus: scratch as in remove? 15:22:59 yeah 15:23:02 or leave untouched 15:23:03 dang. i thought someone had added that for dart slugs 15:23:04 w/e 15:23:14 amalloy: lol 15:23:17 PleasingFungus: gotcha. I'm happy to take that on 15:23:24 !cmdfind ignominy 15:23:24 !ignominyratio 15:23:25 you will have to change SEVERAL numbers 15:23:33 !kw rangedignominy 15:23:34 ProzacElf: you don't have to wear dismissal :) 15:23:34 Keyword: rangedignominy => ckiller=dart_slug 15:23:36 ah 15:23:41 PleasingFungus: good point. You do it. 15:23:53 it is sort of useful 15:23:58 !lastgames devteamnp rangedignominy 15:23:59 I was thinking more in terms of taking on the player anger. 15:23:59 Last 10 games for devteamnp: L1 SpWr^ (a dart slug), L1 HOMo^ (a dart slug), L1 HuCj^ (a dart slug) 15:24:00 :P 15:24:08 but i always wind up teleporting a centaur away or something 15:24:12 hm. lastgames doesn't show player names. oh well 15:24:15 good old hill orc monk 15:24:20 !lg devteamnp rangedignominy s=name 15:24:21 3 games for devteamnp (rangedignominy): gammafunk, neil, wheals 15:24:29 !lg * rangedignominy 15:24:30 1737. Shenda the Ruffian (L2 DrTm), slain by a dart slug on D:1 on 2016-05-06 17:25:54, with 11 points after 1007 turns and 0:01:14. 15:24:32 !kw rangedignominy 15:24:33 Keyword: rangedignominy => ckiller=dart_slug 15:24:34 pew 15:24:37 spriggan warper killed by dart slug 15:24:39 rip indeed 15:24:39 rip 15:24:42 heh 15:24:43 @??dart slug 15:24:43 dart slug (10w) | Spd: 7 | HD: 1 | HP: 8-12 | AC/EV: 1/1 | Dam: 3 | Vul: 09poison | XP: 4 | Sp: slug dart (2d4) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: animal. 15:24:46 ??dart slug 15:24:46 dart slug[1/1]: slow 'w' with a 2d4 damage ranged spell that spawns on D:1 15:24:54 slow 'w' 15:24:57 heh 15:25:01 Do spriggan warpers have 8 hp on D:1? 15:25:03 aren't all 'w' slow these days? 15:25:13 ProzacElf: swamp worms aren't 15:25:14 !hp sp 1 0 15:25:15 HP apt: -3, XL: 1, Fighting: 0 => MHP = 9 15:25:18 oh right 15:25:30 do spwr even have 8 hp on d:5? =p 15:25:44 Not if they wear the amulet of nega-vitality 15:25:48 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 15:26:23 best amulet 15:27:12 It also does Harm and Dismissal 15:27:15 ??howler monkey 15:27:15 howler monkey[1/1]: As fast as an adder, but pretty weak in melee. Most notable feature is a "spell" that acts like a scroll of noise on a breath timer... 15:27:28 I really wish I had a query for how many wins were wearing amulets of harm 15:27:29 ha, 'fast as an adder' 15:27:34 howler monkeys are fast? 15:27:35 they're almost exactly hounds 15:27:40 @??hound 15:27:40 hound (08h) | Spd: 15 | HD: 3 | HP: 13-19 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 6 | see invisible | Res: 06magic(10), 08blind | XP: 42 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 15:27:40 hounds are fast 15:27:45 @??howler monkey 15:27:45 howler monkey (09h) | Spd: 12 | HD: 3 | HP: 15-23 | AC/EV: 1/11 | Dam: 3, 2 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 54 | Sp: warning cry [11!AM, 08breath] | Sz: small | Int: animal. 15:27:50 oh, i forgot i slowed them down 15:27:51 huh 15:27:54 why? 15:28:25 monkeys are widely known for not being nimble 15:28:26 -!- removeelyvilon_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:28:41 i honestly do not recall. 15:28:55 compensate by doubling their speed now 15:29:00 something about wanting them to not be strictly superior to hounds, for some reason 15:29:07 O.o 15:29:16 also why i dented their defenses slightly 15:29:31 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:29:38 Strictly Superior Hounds would be a decent clan name 15:29:57 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:30:43 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34:05 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:49 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:24 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:37:49 Did anyone remember to add a dramatic bug to 0.18 in time for the tourney? 15:38:00 me! me! 15:38:05 I was thinking maybe spellpower * 5, spell success / 5. 15:38:12 haha 15:38:20 %git 15:38:20 07gammafunk02 * 0.19-a0-49-gb8736b8: Update the release and debian guides 10(18 hours ago, 2 files, 57+ 54-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b8736b8b954e 15:38:22 hm 15:38:38 %git 1fa3c7daf26afa99362479f929759535db35958f 15:38:38 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-47-g1fa3c7d: Don't prompt when enemies would burn trees (10398) 10(28 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1fa3c7daf26a 15:39:01 ^ would let you cancel e.g. storm dragon breath if you followed fedhas/dith and they would hit a tree 15:39:11 !time 15:39:12 Time: May 06, 2016, 07:39:11 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 20 minutes and 48 seconds. 15:39:12 are you sure you want to take 3dwhatever damage? 15:39:29 New branch created: pull/260 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/260 15:39:29 03Ada48202 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/260 * 0.19-a0-50-g6c060d3: Tightened the 0 bonus/penalty range for STR. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6c060d3771dd 15:39:44 lol 15:39:48 that's pretty fab 15:40:13 God of Simon Says 15:40:38 The stone giant wants to throw a large rock. Does Simon say stone giant should throw a large rock? 15:41:28 New branch created: god_costs (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/god_costs 15:41:28 03PleasingFungus02 07[god_costs] * 0.19-a0-48-g4c119b8: Rework divine ability hunger costs 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 29+ 29-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4c119b863040 15:41:52 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:42:41 oh, i like that pr 15:43:13 yeah, seems good 15:43:20 merge after t, imo 15:43:40 Why not beforE? 15:44:39 generally we try to keep things fairly static during the tournament to simplify any emergency bugfixes (so that they'll be equally applicable on 0.18 and 'trunk'). this one would probably be fine 15:44:40 idk 15:45:02 -!- Lohengramm_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:45:03 if you're merging prs, imo also merge 259 15:45:03 it looks pretty straightforward. 15:45:05 <_< 15:45:23 haha 15:45:25 is that the mutant beast branch 15:45:37 the mutant beast branch isn't a pr 15:45:44 ah 15:45:46 also i need to test to make sure i'm not doubling our memory usage 15:45:46 But the bugs it'll introduce! The dungeon will be shaken to its foundation with the incredible bleating 15:45:57 imo pushing small stuff during t is fine to help reduce massive commitstorms at the end 15:46:00 Lasty_: baa, baa - you [afraid] 15:46:08 MarvinPA: yeah that's the obvious flip side 15:46:29 but what if our players all abandon t for these powerful new trunk features? 15:46:41 the way it's been put previously is just "don't push exciting things that-" yeah that 15:46:45 sheep are exciting. 15:46:49 03Ada48202 07* 0.19-a0-50-g6c060d3: Tightened the 0 bonus/penalty range for STR. 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6c060d3771dd 15:46:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-51-g2a84f9d: Merge pull request #260 from ada482/patch-1 10(13 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2a84f9de92b6 15:46:59 a difference between 11 and 9 str would definitely get me to play 0.18 15:47:02 er 0.19 15:47:41 powerful spgl buffs 15:47:53 It's finally SpGl's time 15:48:13 -!- Lohengramm has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:48:20 -!- Lohengramm_ is now known as Lohengramm 15:49:23 this is a good example of the power spgl 15:50:35 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]] 15:50:37 !time 15:50:38 Time: May 06, 2016, 07:50:37 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 9 minutes and 22 seconds. 15:51:29 lets hope everything works 15:51:46 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:52:24 -!- yaknyasn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:54:28 oh 15:54:34 is there a trunk commit to warn about the tourney? 15:58:33 -!- yaknyasn has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:58:34 -!- yaknyasn_ is now known as yaknyasn 15:58:56 !time 15:58:57 Time: May 06, 2016, 07:58:56 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 1 minute and 3 seconds. 15:59:23 (I'm around on this account if anything goes wrong with tourney start) 16:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:04 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:00:08 finally... it's time... 16:00:11 !time 16:00:12 Time: May 06, 2016, 08:00:11 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament ends in 15 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 48 seconds. 16:00:26 * geekosaur waits for earth-shattering kaboom 16:00:59 oh yeah you should push that chequers 16:02:04 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:02:24 me, push a trunk commit? 16:04:04 well, looks like tourney scripts started fine 16:04:31 oh, I should fix !nchoice for those who use it 16:04:55 how do you force a nemelex choice to be chosen? 16:05:04 i assumed taildb will pick one next time it updates 16:05:07 !nchoice 16:05:10 OgAE: 0 wins || Piginabag: CBRO, L1 Ogre Mage of No God || Wodfir: CBRO, L1 Ogre Mage of No God 16:05:10 chequers: it already picked it 16:05:17 http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/overview.html 16:05:21 aha 16:05:21 at the top 16:05:28 i just refreshed :) 16:05:39 the process should be fully automatic 16:06:29 thanks for being around, i didnt think i would be 16:06:50 !lm * cv=0.18 s=src 16:06:50 11293 milestones for * (cv=0.18): 4365x cxc, 4314x cbro, 1778x cue, 623x cpo, 168x lld, 45x cdo 16:07:06 wheals: here's the commit to copy, I think d105b5a 16:07:12 !kw t 16:07:12 Built-in: t => start>='2016-05-06 20:00:00' time<'2016-05-22 20:00:00' cv=0.18 explbr= 16:07:16 I heard that the other servers aren't in sequell yet? 16:07:30 "other servers"? 16:07:35 I assume someone has sent the snark a message about it 16:07:43 chequers: other than the six listed a few lines up 16:07:44 i think everything is in sequell 16:07:51 !lm * cv=0.18 s=src 16:07:51 11293 milestones for * (cv=0.18): 4365x cxc, 4314x cbro, 1778x cue, 623x cpo, 168x lld, 45x cdo 16:08:02 cwz has no 0.18 last i checked 16:08:24 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:08:33 hah i just noticed cao logs are not in the loaddb config yet 16:08:35 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-51-g2a84f9d (34) 16:08:44 i can just restart taildb right? 16:09:08 yeah, killing taildb and restarting it should be fine 16:09:37 later on in the tourney there might be issues with games being processed out of order but 8 minutes in that shouldn't matter 16:09:42 %git d105b5a 16:09:42 07Medar02 * 0.18-a0-49-gd105b5a: Remind online trunk players about the tournament. 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d105b5ab648e 16:10:49 oh yeah? like it will process one server's games before another, potentially leading to incorrect point assignment for wins based on popularity? 16:11:19 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:48 chequers: yeah, a couple things like that would require wiping the database and remaking everything 16:11:51 Does CDO count for tournament? 16:11:59 The starting screen says 0.17 :) 16:12:00 yup 16:12:13 CDO's ssh screen? 16:12:16 yes 16:12:39 well, the logfiles are read by the tourney scripts, so you should be fine 16:12:43 cool 16:12:48 looks like CWZ has 0.18 now 16:12:51 !lm * t s=src 16:12:52 313 milestones for * (t): 163x cbro, 90x cxc, 36x cpo, 22x cue, 2x cdo 16:13:52 cwz wouldn't be in sequell for 0.18 yet, but the rest should be 16:13:57 surprised nobody is playing on cjr 16:14:43 ??cjr 16:14:44 cjr[1/2]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks). SSH login info: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html. Currently games are visible on Sequell, but CAO scoring is a work in progress. 16:14:56 greensnark: http://webzook.net/soup/0.18/milestones and http://webzook.net/soup/0.18/logfile are up 16:15:31 -!- Dalwyn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:15:36 i'm lazy 16:15:40 03Medar02 {wheals} 07* 0.19-a0-52-gac4885e: Remind online trunk players about the tournament. 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ac4885e2a96e 16:15:55 oh crap 16:15:56 fuck 16:16:26 lool 16:16:28 too lazy 16:17:14 03wheals02 07* 0.19-a0-53-ge6e6435: Correct version number. 10(11 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e6e643543260 16:17:19 greensnark: looks like sequell is also missing 0.18 CAO, and maybe CJR too (there is one game in sequell but it is old) 16:17:19 -!- spriseris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:17:22 !lm * file~~0.18 s=src 16:17:23 48710 milestones for * (file~~0.18): 21028x cbro, 15965x cxc, 8345x cue, 1932x cpo, 1259x lld, 180x cdo, cjr 16:17:25 ok I just added CWZ to tourney 16:17:30 is a useful query for this 16:17:39 !lm . x=file 16:17:40 12256. [2016-05-05 22:36:53] [file=cpo/dcss-milestones-trunk] chequers the Charlatan (L1 SpAr) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 16:17:45 nice 16:18:14 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:23 &watch ccs 16:18:26 $watch CcS 16:18:26 Watch CcS at: http://underhound.eu:8080/#watch-CcS 16:18:34 &watch tabstorm 16:18:36 ^watch tabstorm 16:18:36 Watch tabstorm at: http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-tabstorm 16:18:44 &watch grimm 16:18:46 !watch Grimm 16:18:47 Watch Grimm at: http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-Grimm 16:18:58 &watch demisesr 16:18:59 https://crawl.project357.org/watch/DemiseSR 16:19:04 the speedrun race 16:20:03 nobody streaming it? 16:20:04 amalloy_: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 16:20:08 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:20:43 man, can i not get messages for amalloy_ without switching nicks back? 16:20:44 -!- hyperbowl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:21:03 i guess anyone who sent messages to amalloy_ is probably long gone 16:21:15 chequers: the pak banner image is still broken on the rules page 16:21:15 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:21:42 amalloy: well, someone else could switch nick to amalloy_ and read them for you... 16:21:49 oh right. i went out and got drunk instead of updating the image 16:22:11 what are we paying you for?!?! 16:22:27 heh ccs is speedrunning with lua errors spamming their console 16:22:56 !time 16:22:56 Time: May 06, 2016, 08:22:56 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament ends in 15 days, 23 hours, 37 minutes and 3 seconds. 16:23:11 -!- serq has quit [Quit: suddenly gone...] 16:24:07 hah, he has frostbite 16:25:02 -!- mibert has quit [Client Quit] 16:25:35 a new nchoice is released as soon as the current one has been won once, right? but the current one is still eligible until it's been won 7(?) times? 16:26:02 yeah 16:26:02 amalloy: right, except s/7/8/ 16:26:07 -!- edsrzf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:26:23 dpeg_: Are you going to join our clan? 16:26:29 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:26:33 i can't start playing for several hours, so i'm in bad shape on OgAE. but i bet piginabag gives me a new one before i'm ready anyway 16:26:43 gammafunk: fixed 16:26:47 thx 16:27:11 gammafunk: while you were gone i recruited PF and was brusquely dismissed by Lasty 16:27:17 ! 16:27:23 How dare he 16:27:48 gammafunk: I've asked Heithinn about the Ogre clan. 16:27:58 oh ok, np then 16:28:38 are scorpions still susceptible to poison? 16:28:42 yep 16:28:45 @??scorpion 16:28:45 scorpion (08s) | Spd: 10 | HD: 4 | HP: 16-21 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 1008(poison:8-16) | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 69 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 16:28:50 vul: poison 16:29:23 If you'd like further secret game-winnning knowledge like this, you'd have to pay the entrance fee and join our exclusive clan 16:29:54 but this damn scorpion refused to acknowledge its vulnerability! 16:29:58 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:30:21 !lg dpeg t 16:30:21 No games for dpeg (t). 16:30:28 !lg devteamnp t s=name 16:30:29 No games for devteamnp (t). 16:30:31 !kw t 16:30:32 Built-in: t => start>='2016-05-06 20:00:00' time<'2016-05-22 20:00:00' cv=0.18 explbr= 16:30:50 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:53 !lm * t rune s=name 16:30:54 No milestones for * (t rune). 16:30:55 gammafunk: why does my game not count? 16:31:00 !whereis dpeg 16:31:01 dpeg the Gusty (L1 DsAE) quit on D:1 on 2011-10-05 after 0 turns. 16:31:05 !lg dpeg 16:31:06 2504. dpeg the Nimble (L12 OpAs of Gozag), slain by a komodo dragon on Lair:2 on 2016-03-30 08:37:10, with 15641 points after 18222 turns and 0:55:27. 16:31:09 !lg dpeg x=src 16:31:10 2504. [src=cbro] dpeg the Nimble (L12 OpAs of Gozag), slain by a komodo dragon on Lair:2 on 2016-03-30 08:37:10, with 15641 points after 18222 turns and 0:55:27. 16:31:11 @whereis dpeg 16:31:12 dpeg the Cudgeler (L7 OgVM), a worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, is currently on D:3 after 6162 turns. 16:31:14 hrm 16:31:18 !lg * t cbro 16:31:19 46. murtidash the Ogre Mage (L2 OgAE), slain by a goblin (a +0 club) on D:1 on 2016-05-06 20:30:06, with 15 points after 543 turns and 0:01:55. 16:31:40 !lg dpeg day s=src 16:31:41 No games for dpeg (day). 16:31:49 oh 16:31:54 you're not dead yet! 16:31:57 !lm dpeg t 16:31:58 3. [2016-05-06 20:30:34] dpeg the Cudgeler (L7 OgVM of Kikubaaqudgha) killed Jessica on turn 6162. (D:3) 16:32:02 it counts 16:32:03 yay 16:32:13 !lg grimm t 16:32:14 No games for grimm (t). 16:32:24 !lg grimm day x=src 16:32:24 dude logged out. rude 16:32:25 No games for grimm (day). 16:32:29 ah 16:32:42 !lm grimm t 16:32:42 No milestones for grimm (t). 16:32:42 !lm grimm day 16:32:42 No milestones for grimm (day). 16:32:42 hm 16:32:52 looks like he's not played to a milestone 16:32:56 !lm grimm 16:32:57 16019. [2016-05-04 16:17:47] Grimm the Chiller (L8 OpIE of Cheibriados) became a worshipper of Cheibriados on turn 6037. (D:7) 16:33:05 or started a game, rather 16:33:07 i was watching him play a trogbro just minutes ago 16:33:10 in lair 16:33:16 wrong account name? 16:33:40 i don't think so. chequers's &watch showed Grimm on cao 16:33:43 !lm * trog t s=name 16:33:43 315 milestones for * (trog t): 38x DemiseSR, 24x ythm, 21x CcS, 20x Ultraviolent4, 16x Eucla, 14x tabstorm, 14x apoch, 14x wormsofcant, 13x Alatreon, 11x MDvedh, 10x packetloss, 10x Charmandara, 9x Floodkiller, 9x doroboNeko, 9x Canard, 8x arn, 8x UndeadYoungAthlete, 7x Chris7, 7x tbh1313, 7x herpmino, 6x McCoppin, 6x ayayaya, 5x Shock, 5x magipi, 5x imoen, 5x slitherrr, 3x hyperbowl, 2x Kilrog, D... 16:33:49 and then i ssh'd to cao and watched 16:33:50 oh, cao doesn't have 0.18 in sequell 16:33:56 but it is in the tourney 16:34:13 i don't understand the distinction there. what does it mean to not have 0.18 in sequell? 16:34:14 so games will count, and sequell will probably get fixed for cao today 16:34:31 it just means you can't query those 0.18 cao games in sequell 16:34:40 sequell has not been taught hpow to read milestones from cao 0.18 yet 16:34:40 amalloy: it means that !lg and !lm don't know about the games yet (but they will once the snark adds them) 16:34:42 but the t scripts don't go through sequell, they pull the logfile/milesontes 16:34:46 they exist, sequell just can't see them yet 16:35:08 so his points for that game should show up on his t page 16:35:23 http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/current-games.html is the most reliable way of tracking the race to the first win 16:35:44 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:35:53 i see 16:36:34 oh, there goes demise 16:36:44 wheals: you need to update your rc to include me as a team captain 16:36:46 !lg demise 16:36:47 412. Demise the Slasher (L8 DsGl of Trog), slain by an ogre (a +0 giant club) on D:6 on 2016-04-19 04:58:53, with 1318 points after 5943 turns and 0:27:02. 16:36:51 I'll go add pf to mine 16:37:06 my cbro rc has it i think 16:37:08 &rc 16:37:10 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-git/wheals.rc 16:37:15 &rc . 0.18 16:37:16 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.18/wheals.rc 16:37:20 what a loser 16:37:24 ??t 16:37:24 tournament[1/5]: The 0.18 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC May 6 to 20:00 UTC May 22. Rules: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/ Leaderboard: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/overview.html (not done yet!) 16:37:33 &rc . 0.18 cao 16:37:35 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-0.18/wheals.rc 16:37:39 hr 16:37:40 m 16:37:50 why didn't the t see it then 16:37:50 gammafunk: it just takes a while to update 16:37:54 amalloy: I added it yesterday 16:38:00 but wheals added it an hour or two ago 16:38:01 it's every 4 hours 16:38:03 oh 16:38:10 well that would do it, then 16:38:43 well demise tried to fight lerny 16:38:53 !lg demisesr 16:38:53 17. DemiseSR the Severer (L16 MiBe of Trog), slain by the 27-headed Lernaean hydra (kmap: grunt_swamp_rune_castle) on Swamp:4 on 2016-05-06 20:32:48, with 129671 points after 29204 turns and 0:32:37. 16:38:59 hah 16:39:13 dying to lerny on a mibe, well it's not all that hard to do really 16:39:15 ccs has frostbite, if you want to see that in action 16:39:23 !gameinfo ccs 16:39:24 you have to time the zerk/bia pretty well 16:39:25 CcS the L16 MiBe^Trog in Swamp:4 (cue tiles), T:26851, runes: 1 (decaying), defenses: 32/18/0, stats: 22/4/23, >15 skills: Fighting,Axes,Armour 16:39:43 !lg . ikiller~~lernaean s=char 16:39:44 4 games for gammafunk (ikiller~~lernaean): 2x HEIE, HESu, MuSu 16:39:53 oh I've actually not lost one to lerny, interesting 16:40:13 tune in to ccs, master speedrunner. first impressions: he is slowly paging through the d menu 16:40:33 he's precomputing strategies, obviously 16:40:39 after he closes that menu, it'll be like watching qw 16:40:57 FR: crabs have steam vulnerability 16:41:14 that's good 16:41:35 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:41:37 i think spider is a bit too tough for him 16:41:41 *them 16:42:00 you kinda have to do stuff that's a bit too tough 16:42:24 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:42:25 The build passed. (god_costs - 4c119b8 #5417 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/128387082 16:42:25 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 16:42:31 yeah i mean in fairness at xl17 with frostbite its about as good as you'll get 16:42:33 gammafunk: when are you doing your realtime rune? 16:42:41 amalloy: well I couldn't be ready in time 16:42:42 !lg . won s=god 16:42:43 20 games for G-Flex (won): 3x Vehumet, 3x Jiyva, 2x Sif Muna, 2x Ashenzari, 2x Zin, 2x The Shining One, Kikubaaqudgha, Qazlal, Trog, Makhleb, Yredelemnul, Cheibriados 16:42:58 ??frostbite 16:42:58 frostbite[1/2]: +8 executioner's axe {freezing cloud, *Noise +Fly rC+} 16:42:58 huh 16:42:59 ??frostbite[2] 16:42:59 frostbite[2/2]: leaves freezing clouds on attacks 16:42:59 not sure what my first run will be though 16:43:04 you could still do a speedrun even if you're not in contention for first win 16:43:05 that's kind of neat 16:43:08 but okay, you don't plan to 16:43:20 does a freezing cloud really do as much as a simple freezing brand though? 16:43:24 maybe I will do a realtime, yeah, but it might not be my first of t 16:43:30 I'd like to make sure my rc is set up for it 16:43:30 G-Flex: fclouds do a lot of damage 16:43:44 oh I suppose it also leaves them on cleaving attacks 16:43:45 which might be nice 16:43:53 chequers: those mibe are easilly strong enough to do spider 16:44:05 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:05 gammafunk: in your ready(), make sure to include a lua error 16:44:06 do have to be careful with the end vaults, but v. doable 16:44:12 that is what top players seem to do 16:44:16 amalloy: it probably already has some! 16:44:17 what is "realtime"? 16:44:27 1sec/turn or something? 16:44:28 what you're watching right now 16:44:36 chequers: racing clock time, not game turns 16:44:40 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 16:44:44 ah, record realtime 16:44:56 i thought you meant, like as opposed to PVR crawl 16:44:59 well, this first win won't really be for that record 16:45:09 it's just "be the first to win" but you have to do it fast 16:45:19 minitomb spider:4 16:45:19 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 16:45:26 lessens set the realtime record last tournament with his first-win though, didn't he? 16:45:28 was a bit empty 16:45:30 or maybe tow tournaments ago 16:45:37 good, ez end 16:45:41 !lg * won min=dur !@bot 16:45:44 41290. simm the Executioner (L24 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-03-29 19:05:06, with 1975880 points after 47808 turns and 0:48:10. 16:45:46 the record has since been beaten, but... 16:45:46 amalloy: no not even close 16:45:54 really? 16:45:57 maybe a record for during tournaments 16:46:06 !lg lessens won mibe t x=dur 16:46:07 No games for lessens (won mibe t). 16:46:13 !lg lessens won t x=dur 16:46:13 No games for lessens (won t). 16:46:16 &watch alatreon 16:46:17 tall 16:46:17 ^watch Alatreon 16:46:18 Watch Alatreon at: http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-Alatreon 16:46:18 er, right 16:46:25 !lg lessens won tall min=dur 16:46:26 29. lessens the Executioner (L24 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-03-13 21:15:53, with 1954733 points after 48953 turns and 1:13:49. 16:46:33 yeah 1:13 16:46:42 !lg * won tall min=dur 16:46:50 8266. qw the Axe Maniac (L27 GrBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-04-22 08:57:52, with 1752684 points after 65809 turns and 0:45:16. 16:46:52 that wasn't the record, but it was reasonably close maybe since it was before simmarine's record game 16:46:53 that race was crazy, like 4 people died near the end 16:47:15 oh, good point, simm's was after that wasn't it 16:47:30 !lg * won min=dur !@bot -2 16:47:31 was it actually that close though? 16:47:33 41289/41290. BLOAX the Slayer (L24 MiFi of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-04-01 21:57:28, with 2596532 points after 31136 turns and 0:52:52. 16:47:33 _Health restored: 108 16:47:36 !lg * won min=dur !@bot -3 16:47:36 vamp reasons 16:47:39 41288/41290. DemiseSR the Conqueror (L24 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-02-22 10:41:40, with 2014442 points after 46100 turns and 0:53:31. 16:47:42 !lg * won min=dur !@bot -4 16:47:45 41287/41290. simm the Axe Maniac (L25 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-03-13 22:16:44, with 2056825 points after 45946 turns and 0:54:50. 16:47:49 !lg * won min=dur !@bot -5 16:47:52 41286/41290. Demise the Executioner (L25 HOBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-11-19 05:04:56, with 1664584 points after 63057 turns and 0:57:37. 16:47:56 !lg * won min=dur !@bot -6 16:48:06 41285/41290. DemiseSR the Axe Maniac (L25 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-01-23 06:21:48, with 1912683 points after 51850 turns and 0:57:39. 16:48:06 lol 16:48:10 this list used to be less cluttered with recent games :P 16:48:13 !lg * won min=dur !@bot -7 16:48:16 41284/41290. Demise the Axe Maniac (L25 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-12-23 23:28:23, with 1734767 points after 62056 turns and 1:00:50. 16:48:20 lmao 16:48:37 Erolcha + Ribbit on D:9 :) 16:48:57 !lg * won min=dur rend<20150213211553 !@bot 16:49:00 26420. ophanim the Conqueror (L24 GrBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-12-10 17:17:43, with 2024795 points after 43516 turns and 1:08:12. 16:49:06 ah, wow 16:49:11 simm really improved it a ton 16:49:11 okay, that was the record before lessens' game 16:49:25 so he was just 5 minutes off 16:49:35 that's pretty cool 16:49:54 interesting how good simm's game is and how no one else has come very close to it 16:50:03 have you seen simmarine play 16:50:05 4 minutes seems fairly far, but I suppose it's not all that far 16:50:08 I have not, no 16:50:39 I should just watch the tv some time 16:51:28 man i wish the current games list updated more 16:52:27 hrm 16:52:47 there's probably a decent sequell command for listing games by score, although cao isn't in the db yet 16:53:03 listing live games by score, I should say 16:53:14 -!- tripout has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:53:20 the second fastest player atm just got banished 16:53:41 was actually catching up since they did second S instead of V for rune 2 16:53:49 tabstorm is graciously applauding Grunt's design decisions wrt the strength of spark wasps 16:54:13 -!- bitcoinbastard_ is now known as bitcoinbastard 16:54:18 &watch tabstorm 16:54:19 ^watch tabstorm 16:54:19 Watch tabstorm at: http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-tabstorm 16:54:44 there should be a universal command 16:54:45 dang, ccs is clearing depths before second rune 16:54:58 dpeg_: for what? 16:55:29 amalloy: looks for the active game and prints the link, avoiding the need to dig up the correct starting symbol (here: ^) 16:55:39 &watchlink tabstorm 16:55:40 http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-tabstorm 16:55:47 chequers just keeps forgetting it exists 16:56:01 -!- TonyMeatballs_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:56:16 why not just dlete &watch then :P 16:56:25 i would support that 16:57:08 -!- Almacia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:58:09 -!- SenorMeltyface has quit [Client Quit] 16:59:54 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:59:56 nice, alatreon is diving slime for rune 3 16:59:56 !cmd &watch 16:59:56 Command: &watch => =eval $(no_pm $(=watch.helper $*)) 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:07 yeah, not much reason for &watch 17:00:32 I think it only got created because someone saw &whereis and thought that it made sense to copy it 17:00:56 -!- Shinino has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:01:00 but &whereis is different because it is asking the server bot for information that sequell doesn't exactly have 17:01:23 -!- uglyjohn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:01:25 &whereis tabstorm 17:01:27 ^whereis tabstorm 17:01:29 tabstorm the Executioner (L17 MiBe), a worshipper of Trog, is currently on D:14 after 22194 turns. 17:01:37 -!- gammafunk has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:58 johnstein: how is cbro holding up with the load 17:02:21 -!- SenorMeltyface has joined ##crawl-dev 17:03:10 i think &watch predates &watchlink by quite a while. watchlink was added separately instead of just replacing &watch because it took some time to get it working right, i think 17:03:29 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:03:29 now that it works in all cases (apparently) i'd love replacing &watch 17:05:02 &watchlink kelthus 17:05:03 No milestones for kelthus. 17:05:13 &watchlink Kellhus 17:05:15 http://crawl.develz.org/#watch-Kellhus 17:05:34 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:05:53 ccs nearly died to self immolation strat on v:5 17:06:16 now I am an ogre with Str 16, Int 16, Dex 19 :-O 17:06:40 !gameinfo dpeg 17:06:42 dpeg the L11 OgVM^Kiku in D:11 (cdo console), T:14158, defenses: 6/7/0, stats: 16/16/10 17:07:15 why would you do V for 3rd rune in a realtime race? M seems way faster 17:07:30 !hs ccs 17:07:31 1521. CcS the Conqueror (L27 GrBe of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-11-15 14:52:02, with 16721510 points after 93878 turns and 5:24:26. 17:07:42 !lg ccs min=dur won 17:07:42 15. CcS the Axe Maniac (L26 MiMo of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-11-06 21:26:45, with 1908282 points after 53811 turns and 1:25:53. 17:07:58 not exactly a grizzled veteran of the realtime scene 17:08:08 !lg ccs won s=rune 17:08:09 Unknown field: rune 17:08:17 !lm ccs won lg:nrune=3 s=rune 17:08:18 33 milestones for ccs (won lg:nrune=3): 6x silver, 6x decaying, 6x serpentine, 5x barnacled, 5x gossamer, 4x abyssal, slimy 17:08:40 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-53-ge6e6435 (34) 17:10:24 MOON BASE http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-Alatreon 17:11:26 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:12:17 gammafunk: you missed moon base 17:12:26 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:12:51 it's alright, I only care about the deaths 17:13:05 gammafunk: elynae came close! he died to a panlord on the run, but otherwise i think he wouldve taken my record 17:13:13 ah, interesting 17:13:27 simmarine: is there anything weird I need to know about for realtime attempts? I've copied some things from your rc 17:13:34 dang, ccs is out 17:13:45 !lg ccs 17:13:45 1522. CcS the Axe Maniac (L23 MiBe of Trog), blasted by a golden dragon (bolt of cold) on Zot:3 on 2016-05-06 21:13:15, with 514393 points after 41777 turns and 1:11:39. 17:13:45 -!- TonyMeatballs has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:13:45 man, another one in zot 17:13:53 they seem to have trouble there, these first t runs 17:14:02 !lg * t zot 17:14:02 1. CcS the Axe Maniac (L23 MiBe of Trog), blasted by a golden dragon (bolt of cold) on Zot:3 on 2016-05-06 21:13:15, with 514393 points after 41777 turns and 1:11:39. 17:14:04 last time it was like 3 that died in zot 17:14:22 most of it is in some dedicated section but i never took it a step further 17:14:33 i think you can do some more interesting things 17:14:40 &watchlink irum 17:14:43 &rc simmarine 17:14:43 unknownirum 17:14:45 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/simm.rc 17:14:58 !lg irum x=src 17:14:59 2287. [src=cwz] irum the Destroyer (L9 HEIE of Okawaru), blasted by an orc priest (divine providence) on D:8 on 2016-04-29 11:31:42, with 2826 points after 7963 turns and 0:15:36. 17:15:01 i think if i were to remove any glyphs i dont care about like daggers or whatnot 17:16:21 heh, that'd be pretty amusing 17:16:36 just make them darkgrey? 17:17:06 gammafunk: re-glyph them to . 17:17:07 tbh to Bloax, his run was in tiles and only 4 minutes away, and I'm not sure how much lag difference there is 17:17:12 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:17:20 amalloy: I bet that would end up looking really weird! 17:17:30 like stacks getting hilighted 17:17:52 amalloy: have you seen the thing that crate and some other players do where out of los is magenta instead of darkgrey? 17:18:15 reminds of csgo pros using low settings 17:18:20 or maybe it's not darkgrey, but the point of that change is "in-los" vs "out-of-los" is easier to see 17:18:36 looks pretty ugly but it does work 17:18:42 gammafunk: we should move good interface stuff to our default rc! 17:18:53 dpeg_: well some of it is contraversial! 17:19:06 .gfgk 17:19:07 93. Tenebrium the Gelid (L15 MuIE of Vehumet), blown up by an eye of devastation in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2016-05-06 14:47:17, with 106600 points after 34432 turns and 1:42:11. 17:19:11 oh wow 17:19:13 .gfgk -2 17:19:14 92/93. tedric the Warrior (L24 OgAM of The Shining One), blasted by a spriggan air mage (the air) (led by the Enchantress) on Depths:4 (gammafunk_depths_water_palace) on 2016-05-06 05:48:57, with 439036 points after 64754 turns and 4:56:59. 17:19:21 watching this tv, I saw tedric does the magenta thing 17:19:27 doesn't help him because he plays like a maniac 17:19:45 -!- Ge0ff has quit [] 17:20:05 .wizrank t 17:20:06 0/2 milestones for * (br.enter=wizlab milestone!~~hellbinder|cloud|erinya|upun|cekugob|borgnjor|a_wizard t): 0/1x entered Lehudib's Moon Base. [0.00%], 0/1x entered Zonguldrok's Shrine. [0.00%] 17:20:16 aw, too bad wasn't in t 17:20:24 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:20:27 strange, it's the nem combo 17:20:27 .mapkills . tall 17:20:30 uh oh 17:20:30 !mapkills . tall 17:20:31 No games for tall (!boring !won ((map=~amalloy || kmap=~amalloy))). 17:20:33 rip 17:20:35 .gfgk -2 x=src 17:20:36 !lg tenebrium x=src 17:20:36 92/93. [src=cbro] tedric the Warrior (L24 OgAM of The Shining One), blasted by a spriggan air mage (the air) (led by the Enchantress) on Depths:4 (gammafunk_depths_water_palace) on 2016-05-06 05:48:57, with 439036 points after 64754 turns and 4:56:59. 17:20:37 907. [src=cwz] Tenebrium the Tainter (L9 OpVM of Vehumet), slain by a sixfirhy (summoned by a kobold demonologist) on D:7 (minmay_opposing_rooms) on 2016-05-06 19:18:29, with 2083 points after 7323 turns and 0:15:47. 17:20:41 !lg tenebrium x=src,cv 17:20:42 907. [src=cwz;cv=0.18-a] Tenebrium the Tainter (L9 OpVM of Vehumet), slain by a sixfirhy (summoned by a kobold demonologist) on D:7 (minmay_opposing_rooms) on 2016-05-06 19:18:29, with 2083 points after 7323 turns and 0:15:47. 17:20:50 er 17:20:54 .gfgk -2 x=src,vlong 17:20:55 92/93. [src=cbro;vlong=0.19-a0-46-g8690a2b] tedric the Warrior (L24 OgAM of The Shining One), blasted by a spriggan air mage (the air) (led by the Enchantress) on Depths:4 (gammafunk_depths_water_palace) on 2016-05-06 05:48:57, with 439036 points after 64754 turns and 4:56:59. 17:20:57 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:21:02 .gfgk x=src,vlong 17:21:03 93. [src=cwz;vlong=0.18-a0-1781-g663d63a] Tenebrium the Gelid (L15 MuIE of Vehumet), blown up by an eye of devastation in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2016-05-06 14:47:17, with 106600 points after 34432 turns and 1:42:11. 17:21:11 right 17:21:20 wait, that's not the nem choice 17:21:26 !nchoice 17:21:30 !nemchoice 17:21:33 gah 17:21:35 OgAE: 0 wins || Eucla: CPO, L11 Bludgeoner of Okawaru || LordSloth: CBRO, L10 Ogre Mage of No God || murtidash: CBRO, L9 Basher of Okawaru || Piginabag: CBRO, L9 Basher of Gozag || Enish: CUE, L9 Fighter of Ashenzari || willcat: CBRO, L8 Poker of Ashenzari || Chiseanne: CXC, L7 Ogre Mage of Gozag || edsrzf: CPO, L6 Ogre Mage of Jiyva || StoryTimeSA: CBRO, L5 Cudgeler of Makhleb || Phlounder: CBRO,... 17:21:38 oh 17:21:40 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:21:41 OgAE 17:21:54 chequers: you said it was a nem choice, which confused me 17:21:58 ogam is close enough 17:21:59 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:22:06 it was MuIE! 17:22:08 if I was taildb I'd consider it the same 17:22:15 heck, and I play OgVM :) 17:22:21 a char I've in fact won 17:22:34 honestly muie is probably the strongest mu 17:22:53 muvm 17:22:56 !won . muvm 17:22:57 amalloy (muvm) has won twice in 2 games (100.00%): 2xMuVM 17:23:00 no way 17:23:06 fun cumbo though I grant that 17:23:08 OTR is so good 17:23:16 !lg . muvm s=god 17:23:17 2 games for amalloy (muvm): 2x Gozag 17:23:19 yeah I used it a lot more my last vm 17:23:21 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:24:01 tabstorm is going for v:5 rune 3 too 17:25:35 -!- namad7 has quit [] 17:25:44 ^vps 17:25:45 CBRO disk usage=78% | RAM usage=92% | uptime/CPU= 17:25:44 up 540 days, 2:44, 15 users, load average: 3.18, 3.32, 3.09 17:25:45 * johnstein waits 17:25:47 not a huge surprise 17:25:58 woah, 78% full johnstein 17:26:01 living life on the edge 17:26:05 alatreon closing in on the orb 17:26:19 uh I'm more worried about the 300% countries 17:26:21 good god 17:26:29 300% countries? 17:26:33 I'll have to double capacity for a couple weeks 17:26:37 CPU 17:26:41 stupid autocorrect 17:26:42 hrm, are people using cjr? 17:26:51 at least some are 17:26:53 yeah there are some 17:27:00 but not many 17:27:01 including this really weird "pleasingfungus" account 17:27:08 that name is probably offensive and should be banned imo 17:27:09 who? 17:27:13 maybe i should play on CJR. depends how laggy CAO is i guess 17:27:15 secretly canadian!! 17:27:23 how laggy does cbro feel? 17:27:41 oh. I need to check the boys 17:27:44 bots 17:27:49 good god autocorrect 17:27:57 haha 17:28:16 !lg bots 17:28:16 johnstein: cbro is very snappy, as someone who is not playing. like, i can press qi qi qi qi to quit watching and re-watch, and there's no delay 17:28:17 No games for bots. 17:28:18 johnstein loves his bots like they were one of his children 17:28:24 maybe it's worse if you are trying to play 17:28:28 like they were collectively one of his children 17:28:34 yeah I don't perceive any lag watching TS 17:28:34 so he doesn't love them quite as much as one child each 17:28:44 G-Flex: that's all configurable though 17:28:44 I'm getting other feedback that playing isn't too bad 17:28:48 tabstorm is reloading his game every 5mins 17:28:56 I'm more worried about getting a nastygram from ramnode 17:29:01 -!- jerkstore has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:29:14 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:29:41 johnstein: well, if it does become a problem, maybe we can try to send games over to cjr? 17:29:43 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:29:45 oh Erolcha, a +5 GSC, I'd marry you! 17:29:48 not sure how we'd accomplish that though 17:29:53 not worth it 17:29:57 dpeg_: make sure to appropriately inscribe it 17:30:20 !lg * t0.17 s=day(start) -graph 17:30:25 gammafunk: done 17:30:26 87997 games for * (t0.17): https://shalott.org/graphs/7e1b9ac076492a14b2d9d11030bddc18d837dc31.html 17:31:00 days 2 and 3 are usually the worst 17:31:04 as far as load 17:31:27 hopefully updating the CPU won't take the server down. I think that's how it works 17:32:39 !lg * cbro tall 1 17:32:43 !lg * cpo tall 1 17:32:47 1/35852. wheals the Cudgeler (L2 KoBe of Trog), slain by a kobold (a +0,+0 short sword) on D:1 on 2014-04-11 20:08:58, with 54 points after 881 turns and 0:03:25. 17:32:55 1/3767. Ultraviolent4 the Stinger (L4 VSVM), slain by an adder on D:3 on 2015-03-13 20:12:31, with 90 points after 2394 turns and 0:09:38. 17:33:02 i'm famous 17:33:10 !kw tall 17:33:11 Keyword: tall => t* 17:33:14 oh 17:33:16 wheals: for ruining worlds? 17:33:16 nice 17:33:25 !lg * t 1 17:33:25 1/241. jacquesderrida the Grave Robber (L1 TeNe), blasted by a dart slug (slug dart) on D:1 on 2016-05-06 20:03:28, with 4 points after 64 turns and 0:00:40. 17:33:31 for dying ;) 17:33:33 hah, good one jd 17:33:38 first death of the t 17:33:45 !lg * tall s=day(start),src -graph 17:33:49 wheals: try harder :) 17:34:01 678296 games for * (tall): https://shalott.org/graphs/8c8379cde61280783781a68fc1ec176ce0905555.html 17:35:49 gg alatreon. first win 17:35:54 -!- Kalaber has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:36:11 -!- aditya has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:39 !lg * t won x=dur 17:36:40 1. [dur=1:31:50] Alatreon the Slayer (L24 GrBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-05-06 21:35:41, with 2143346 points after 40210 turns and 1:31:50. 17:36:53 bit slower this round 17:36:53 demise is going to beat that dur pretty soon 17:37:02 !lm tabstorm x=dur 17:37:03 17253. [2016-05-06 21:36:29] [dur=1:23:14] tabstorm the Executioner (L24 MiBe of Trog) found the Orb of Zot! (Zot:5) 17:37:10 ts won't by much 17:37:14 but will beat it 17:37:15 !lm demise x=dur 17:37:15 6373. [2016-05-06 21:35:12] [dur=0:52:56] Demise the Axe Maniac (L23 MiBe of Trog) reached level 5 of the Realm of Zot on turn 57785. (Zot:5) 17:37:21 well it is a lot really 17:37:30 but yeah demise looks like he'll beat it by even more 17:37:59 !lm tabstorm zot:5 x=dur 17:38:00 247. [2016-05-06 21:36:29] [dur=1:23:14] tabstorm the Executioner (L24 MiBe of Trog) found the Orb of Zot! (Zot:5) 17:38:03 !lm tabstorm zot:5 x=dur -2 17:38:04 246/247. [2016-05-06 21:31:09] [dur=1:17:54] tabstorm the Executioner (L22 MiBe of Trog) reached level 5 of the Realm of Zot on turn 33159. (Zot:5) 17:38:06 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:38:20 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:41 think I found a bug. I drank mutation potion. Gained you're weak mutation. Then drank degeneration. Now I have regained the stats but also don't see the weak mutation. The other mutations are present. 17:39:49 quaffing degeneration and then regaining stats shouldn't have any way to affect mutations 17:39:56 -!- Dracunos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:40:02 are you sure you didn't lose the mutation at some point? 17:40:06 !gameinfo aditya 17:40:07 adibis the L13 MiGl^Oka in Lair:6 (cbro tiles), T:18840, defenses: 26/13/0, stats: 25/5/13, >15 skills: Maces & Flails 17:40:07 possibly from that same mutation potion? 17:40:09 &dump aditya 17:40:10 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/adibis/adibis.txt 17:40:16 poor demise seeing all these pan lords 17:40:58 !lm demise x=tiles 17:40:59 6375. [2016-05-06 21:40:02] [tiles=true] Demise the Axe Maniac (L24 MiBe of Trog) left the Realm of Zot on turn 60614. (Zot:1) 17:41:21 amalloy: you don't do twitch streams do you 17:41:33 or I guess you can stream on youtube gaming as well 17:41:42 there's no ssh on cpo remember 17:41:47 i could, but i don't really think my style is conducive 17:42:00 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:00 i have a twitch account, and some old broadcasts of playing dominion 17:42:01 oh, that's not really true at all amalloy, but it is a question of whether you'd enjoy it 17:42:13 I think people would appreciate your take on the game 17:42:20 the thing about twitch is you have to interact with the chat 17:42:35 sure, but it's usally not too bad, and you'd likely not have too too many people in chat 17:42:41 which i can't really do well. if i'm not playing full-screen i can't really see anything 17:42:48 was thiking we could try to stream a game at the same time but it's not really necessary or anything 17:42:58 huh, you have your console window full screen? 17:43:01 yes 17:43:02 how long does it take for the tournament webpage to update 17:43:03 wow 17:43:11 it's like every 7 mins? 17:43:17 chequers: do you recall how often the update happens? 17:43:34 it seems a bit random, but 10mins 17:44:19 amalloy: fwiw I use an irc-based twitch chat client that works well 17:44:21 you can just use irssi 17:44:32 yeah, i know you can irc twitch 17:44:41 but then you don't get those all important Kappas rendered 17:44:45 actually, reading the code it seems like it sleeps 60 secs between every loop iteration 17:44:49 KappaPride 17:45:38 gammafunk: i had a fun time actually, ircing to chatrooms and trying to figure out what each emote was, back before mousing over an emote would tell you 17:45:51 why do some webtiles servers seem to save up game state and replay it at high speed when i alt-tab away from the browser as my active window 17:45:54 like people were saying BibleThump and i was trying to learn from context what it must "mean" 17:46:03 how do you see the lowest real time win 17:46:23 !lg * t won s=dur,name 17:46:24 3 games for * (t won): 1:26:19 (tabstorm), 1:31:50 (Alatreon), 0:59:23 (Demise) 17:46:33 amalloy: I did a couple streams initially with irrsi and it became pretty annoying not what certain weird words meant 17:46:35 !lg . t 17:46:36 No games for Lightli (t). 17:46:38 wait 17:46:39 !lg * tall won min=dur 17:46:42 I use chatty, which is java-based and works pretty well 17:46:47 8269. qw the Axe Maniac (L27 GrBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-04-22 08:57:52, with 1752684 points after 65809 turns and 0:45:16. 17:46:50 welp 17:46:50 !lg 17:46:51 3702. Lightli the Acrobat (L26 HOBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-05-06 21:37:30, with 2065711 points after 45400 turns and 1:18:52. 17:46:52 !lg * tall won min=dur !bot 17:46:53 No keyword 'bot' 17:46:57 !lg log 17:46:57 ^vps 17:46:57 CBRO disk usage=65% | RAM usage=59% | uptime/CPU= 17:46:57 up 540 days, 3:05, 12 users, load average: 2.85, 2.92, 2.87 17:46:58 2. LOG the Magician (L7 DsWz of Gozag), slain by a centaur on D:5 on 2016-01-10 21:30:19, with 571 points after 6478 turns and 0:35:27. 17:46:59 !lg !bot tall won min=dur 17:46:59 I'll be afk for an hour or so, but it looks like the tourney is doing fine (and hopefully at some point sequell will be updated with all the servers) 17:47:02 !lg . log 17:47:04 neat 17:47:08 8252. simm the Executioner (L24 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-03-29 19:05:06, with 1975880 points after 47808 turns and 0:48:10. 17:47:08 3702. Lightli, XL26 HOBe, T:45400: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Lightli/morgue-Lightli-20160506-213730.txt 17:47:10 ty hyperbolic 17:47:20 I bumped the ram up a gig (2 -> 3) 17:47:21 yeah, I'm sure snark will get cao 0.18 in sequell soon 17:47:23 oh, i didn't realise that was a t win 17:47:23 hyperbolic: Just added the servers 17:47:26 chequers: thanks for taking it over! 17:47:33 -!- KiT___ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:47:35 I was on cbro 17:47:35 thanks for running it since forever! 17:47:40 so hopefully no running out of ram 17:47:41 speak of the devil admin! 17:47:44 greensnark: thanks 17:47:44 you have a little credit on the page if you didnt see 17:47:47 greensnark: cool, thanks 17:47:53 I started the game the second !time said "begins now" 17:47:59 !lg * t cao 17:47:59 130. Wolpertinger the Grappler (L11 OpFi of Gozag), slain by a hill giant (a cursed +0 giant club) on D:11 on 2016-05-06 21:46:56, with 7184 points after 12323 turns and 0:17:05. 17:48:02 probably will...nope 17:48:02 I don't know if the CPU will be an issue but we will see 17:48:04 already there 17:48:07 and then I died so that didn't even matter 17:48:10 !lg * t cwz 17:48:11 5. brainstorm the Cleaver (L12 MiBe of Trog), demolished by an ettin (a +0 dire flail) on Orc:1 on 2016-05-06 20:31:21, with 22685 points after 11152 turns and 0:18:56. 17:48:23 wow, hong even got all the web stuff set up right, great 17:48:24 if anyone sees the ram usage getting high again let me know and I'll bump it to 4GB 17:48:27 !lm * t begin s=src 17:48:28 698 milestones for * (t begin): 216x cbro, 209x cao, 124x cxc, 72x cue, 39x cjr, 26x cpo, 8x cwz, 4x cdo 17:48:35 !lg Lightli x=start 17:48:37 3702. [start=2016-05-06 20:18:24 [20160406201824S]] Lightli the Acrobat (L26 HOBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-05-06 21:37:30, with 2065711 points after 45400 turns and 1:18:52. 17:48:40 ...oh 17:48:45 yeah, you can watch irum on cwz who is going for the first 15-runer it seems 17:48:45 I DID TRUNK INSTEAD OF 0.18 17:48:47 WELP 17:48:49 haha 17:48:53 !lm * t lld begin file~~0.18 17:48:54 No milestones for * (t lld begin file~~0.18). 17:48:56 1learn add lightli imo 17:49:02 !lm * lld begin file~~0.18 17:49:03 232. [2016-05-06 13:10:14] choi the Skirmisher (L1 HOFi) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 17:49:10 there wasn't even a reminder 17:49:10 oh, no lld? 17:49:12 Lightli: does the server not warn you? 17:49:14 Lightli: ouch 17:49:17 nope 17:49:21 amalloy: that commit was only made recently 17:49:22 the commit was done just now 17:49:23 gammafunk: I think it is working probably, just no games started there since tourney start 17:49:25 need to rebuild 17:49:29 hyperbolic: gotcha 17:49:40 greensnark: Cheers! You can play this Crawl game, I hear it's fun. 17:49:40 -!- Grammus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:49:45 oh, maybe we do need to do some rebuilds 17:49:46 dpeg_: who has the time :D 17:49:48 wrt that commit? 17:49:52 gammafunk: if you wanted to make sure, you could start a game on lld 17:49:55 yes, gotta take a day off work :) 17:49:57 !cmd &watch 17:49:58 Command: &watch => =eval $(no_pm $(=watch.helper $*)) 17:49:58 anyway, afk now 17:49:59 yeah let me go try that 17:50:00 !cmd &watchlink 17:50:00 Command: &watchlink => !lm ${1:-.} fmt:"\$(=watch_link ${2:-${src}} \$(if \$(match -a ${3:-${cv}}) trunk ${3:-${cv}}))${name}" stub:"No milestones for $(name_fixup ${1:-${user}})." 17:50:11 !cmd &watch !lm ${1:-.} fmt:"\$(=watch_link ${2:-${src}} \$(if \$(match -a ${3:-${cv}}) trunk ${3:-${cv}}))${name}" stub:"No milestones for $(name_fixup ${1:-${user}})." 17:50:11 Redefined command: &watch => !lm ${1:-.} fmt:"\$(=watch_link ${2:-${src}} \$(if \$(match -a ${3:-${cv}}) trunk ${3:-${cv}}))${name}" stub:"No milestones for $(name_fixup ${1:-${user}})." 17:50:27 &watch amalloy 17:50:28 http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-yollama 17:50:38 biblethump amalloy 17:51:17 this is more of a PogChamp than a BibleThump, chequers 17:51:18 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:51:26 !lg beem lld t 17:51:27 1. beem the Caller (L1 DESu), slain by a gnoll on D:1 on 2016-05-06 21:50:49, with 0 points after 45 turns and 0:00:17. 17:51:42 rip beem, called a bad method 17:52:14 point taken kappa 17:52:50 has anything changed from 0.18 in trunk yet anyways 17:53:08 usually no changes during tourney 17:53:35 any changes should be pretty trivial yeah, so we don't have people wanting to play trunk 17:53:52 !lg * t won s=start,dur 17:53:52 3 games for * (t won): 2016-05-06 20:00:15 (1:31:50), 2016-05-06 20:06:52 (1:26:19), 2016-05-06 20:41:49 (0:59:23) 17:53:57 !lg * t won s=name,start,dur 17:53:58 3 games for * (t won): tabstorm (2016-05-06 20:06:52 (1:26:19)), Alatreon (2016-05-06 20:00:15 (1:31:50)), Demise (2016-05-06 20:41:49 (0:59:23)) 17:54:01 if we remove Ha right now (from trunk), we can help that cause! 17:54:19 Are Ha really that bad 17:54:28 I enjoy them more than Ko tbh 17:54:53 Kobold int the worst! 17:54:58 i theoretically enjoy them more but it never seems to occur in practice 17:55:15 More than Ko, or more in general 17:55:18 gammafunk: it should be a merge anyway (just like MD removal was in reality a merger) 17:55:21 Gamma, my dude. I’m hearing reports of illegitimate registration of accounts (streakbreaker type stuff) on this new server. Might be worth checking out before the tournament starts. 17:55:23 They're not a top choice for me 17:55:46 chequers: is that a quote from somewhere? 17:55:55 yeah dude https://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/new-server-cjr-is-online-and-cao-updated-for-0-18-tournament 17:55:55 cdo I bet 17:55:58 ok yeah 17:56:17 mps 17:56:57 ZiBuDo: could you pastebin the list of registered usernames and associated emails if you get a chance? select username,email from dglusers; 17:57:10 one second 17:57:16 death penalty for account scummers!!! 17:57:21 ha ha ha 17:57:34 !lm * t ogae alive s=name 17:57:35 124 milestones for * (t ogae alive): 23x Eucla, 18x jumbajumba, 14x murtidash, 13x Enish, 7x Piginabag, 7x amaril, 6x pleasingfungus, 6x Chiseanne, 4x glosham, 4x WhiteShark, 4x MorganLeah, 3x Gorgo, 3x notmps, 3x StoryTimeSA, 2x edsrzf, 2x KiT, Guenter, Izverg, edgefigaro, Leszczynek, Phlounder 17:57:39 ” less annoyng hard to fight enemies.” 17:57:40 Actually, this is wrong. There are now more hard-to-fight enemies, some of which are even more annoying. (spirit wolves are back) 17:57:47 !lm * t ogae alive max=xl 17:57:48 124. [2016-05-06 21:57:04] Eucla the Bludgeoner (L18 OgAE of Okawaru) found a serpentine rune of Zot on turn 37428. (Snake:4) 17:57:53 wheres that from 17:57:58 I approved that comment since it's not spam 17:58:02 gammafunk: good! 17:58:07 chequers: http://pastebin.com/1psuKwee 17:58:10 gammafunk: no, not spam at all 17:58:30 -!- Chris7 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:58:35 you know what the best thing is? 17:58:36 oh shit 17:58:44 when the tournament ends and a massive pile of commits land on trunk 17:58:49 PleasingFungus: btw, can you add users (i.e. amalloy) to wordpress? 17:58:53 I looked but didn't see how 17:59:01 urgh, please don't make that paste public. we promise not to share that account with anyone when you create an account 17:59:22 ZiBuDo: ^ 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:10 good point 18:00:13 it's fine to email it to chequers or something if he wants to audit it, but a publicly-available link to a public pastebin site :( 18:00:19 amalloy: ty I was about to mention something too. 18:00:37 gammafunk: there should be a 'users' page, supposedly, but i'm not sure i have permissions to see it 18:00:48 yeah, ok I'll just ask napkin 18:00:50 looks like charly's account might be a grief since the email is invalid 18:01:04 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:01:20 !tell Napkin Can you add amalloy to the list of wordpress admins so he can make/edit posts? Thanks! 18:01:20 gammafunk: OK, I'll let napkin know. 18:01:49 ZiBuDo: there should be a delete button on that paste for you http://pastebin.com/1psuKwee 18:01:50 ZiBuDo: yeah, what amalloy said is right, and this channel is logged so people can look up urls like that 18:02:09 it's my fault, I didn't think about privacy 18:02:10 nbd or anything, next time you can /msg chequers with it 18:02:17 sure 18:02:29 hmm where is the delete button? 18:02:52 gammafunk: i wouldn't /msg a link to pastebin, since afaik pastebin is crawlable. either a "secret" gist or an email should be okay i think 18:02:57 do you have to be logged in? 18:03:07 aw, might not exist 18:03:08 -!- SenorMeltyface has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:03:09 to pastebin. to delete something you posted? 18:03:31 You are currently not logged in, this means you can not edit or delete anything you paste. Sign Up or Login 18:03:39 amalloy: yeah I guess that's true, although good luck finding that pastebin. I'd hope there's a good private paste service, at least 18:03:47 secret gist sounds good 18:04:08 i'll drop them an email 18:04:29 reminder to register your account on cjr if you haven't done so 18:06:21 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 18:07:27 hm, whoops, lowercased. one more complication for the eventual unified account system... 18:07:45 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:45 (assuming it isn't already lowercased internally and cjr's just leaking that detail) 18:08:50 account names are case insensitive now so they'll probably have to be in future 18:09:15 all lower case names are the only cools ones anyhow, it turns out 18:09:18 but my dreams of the amaLLoy superaccount 18:09:42 !nick amalloy 18:09:43 Mapping amalloy => (((!cbro || name!=mountebank))) akm amalloy yollama hyperamalloy mountebank 18:09:45 not that I'm going to be playing online any time soon (took ~2m to get webtiles loaded. not cjr's fault...) 18:09:56 wow I just now realized there yollama came from 18:09:56 I did add a .toLowerCase to the client but there are some uppercase nicknames on cjr because they registered before it went public 18:10:12 craptacular local notwork is why I don't play online any more 18:10:19 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:10:34 gammafunk: alucard's disguise better than expected 18:10:50 amalloy: what are you saying?! He's.... 18:11:05 ZiBuDo: well, technically I could subvert that since you only did it in the client 18:11:15 if you really want to enforce it, it needs to hapeen in the server 18:11:45 I haven't added account registration to my webtiles lib 18:12:05 would be easy to do so, but that is maybe a bit of a...canofworms 18:12:15 not like people can't make registration bots already though 18:12:46 ugh, making it easy for twitch people to register. no thanks! 18:13:07 oh that'd be a fun r4nr feature 18:13:12 register from twitch chat 18:13:46 I need to split out the twitch support into its own server, but I won't get to that for some time 18:13:52 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-53-ge6e6435 (34) 18:15:33 hm, autoexplore trap in lair 18:15:42 if i die from this i shall be annoyed. 18:15:58 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:17:50 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:33 what if he then sees a heal wounds potion that would save his life but it turns out to be a mimic... 18:18:46 lol 18:18:52 marvinpa removed those :( 18:18:57 oh yeah 18:26:18 i just misread something out of the corner of my eye, and it led me to a FR: wand of disfigurement 18:26:30 you point it at an enemy, and they're ugly 18:26:49 this demoralizes them or something. details TBD 18:27:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:58 do elves need their own subsection of the species section in the manual? 18:28:14 "There are a number of distinct species of Elf." 18:28:16 then you find out that number is 2 18:29:01 probably not! 18:29:50 maybe add some more elves 18:29:53 ^vps 18:29:53 CBRO disk usage=65% | RAM usage=66% | uptime/CPU= 18:29:53 up 540 days, 3:48, 11 users, load average: 1.63, 1.63, 1.80 18:29:59 poop elf 18:30:15 !wtf PEFE 18:30:15 Unperson Fire Elementalist 18:30:24 "Fire" 18:31:08 we need more race/class combos that spell out dirty words 18:31:33 _Your +0 giant club thirsts for the lives of mortals! 18:31:45 &watch PleasingFungus 18:31:46 unknownpleasingfungus 18:31:48 Dark Imp Chaos Knight 18:32:43 oh my god, even in game the cursor is jorgrun 18:32:48 hahaha 18:32:50 yeah it's awful 18:33:00 at least there's a little cursor within the jorgrun now! 18:33:02 -!- Tickenest has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:33:22 chequers: console reasons: ssh doesn't support midi 18:35:51 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:34 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:41:21 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:41:48 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:43:44 i wish nets worked on player ghosts 18:43:44 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:11 in fact i wish player ghosts were more like non-ghosts in general 18:45:01 best feature of player ghosts: you can kill them while under divine protection 18:46:24 secret tech for dith/tso: more granular piety display 18:47:09 !hs * t 18:47:10 695. tabstorm the Executioner (L24 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-05-06 21:39:34, with 2389690 points after 35117 turns and 1:26:19. 18:52:36 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:52:37 The build has errored. (master - e6e6435 #5420 : Shmuale Mark): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/128394763 18:52:37 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:57:31 -!- moxian has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:40 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:57:44 !nchoice 18:57:57 OgAE: 0 wins || amaril: CBRO, L15 Bludgeoner of Dithmenos || MorganLeah: CBRO, L15 Shatterer of Okawaru || Enish: CUE, L15 Bludgeoner of Ashenzari || jumbajumba: CAO, L14 Bludgeoner of Ru || WhiteShark: CAO, L14 Shatterer of Trog || Chiseanne: CXC, L14 Ogre Mage of Gozag || pleasingfungus: CJR, L13 Bludgeoner of Kikubaaqudgha || Leszczynek: CUE, L12 Bludgeoner of Sif Muna || Alatreon: CBRO, L11 Bl... 18:59:07 -!- shinino is now known as Shinino 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:00:44 chequers: The tournament player page has 0.17 banner - http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/images/banner_footer1.png (sample page: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/players/tabstorm.html ). Apologies if that's already been mentioned. 19:00:44 -!- Dracunos is now known as Drac 19:01:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 19:01:50 !nemchoice 19:02:56 someone win an OgAE in the next couple hours so i can start a fresh nchoice when i get home from work 19:03:14 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos 19:04:09 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:07:46 -!- hyperbowl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:09:29 -!- CcS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:10:32 -!- ldf_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:13:30 ogae is such an easy first nem choice 19:13:51 that was dumb 19:13:52 honestly we should switch to forcing hard combos for nem choice 19:13:53 feh 19:14:00 !lg PleasingFungus 19:14:01 435. pleasingfungus the Cudgeler (L5 OgAE of Cheibriados), mangled by a mummy in Ossuary (ossuary_tomb_3) on 2016-05-06 21:36:37, with 139 points after 1209 turns and 0:08:00. 19:14:05 nope 19:14:31 gammafunk: it is wasy with Sif? 19:14:40 oh no, def. not sif for agae 19:14:44 *ogae 19:14:52 take that trog altar if you can 19:15:13 * dpeg_ took Ru. 19:15:18 reasonable 19:15:34 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:17:28 haha, I am now an ogre caster with 0 MP, thanks to +2 flail {crush, +Blink rC+ MP-9 Str+3} :) 19:17:55 дщд 19:17:57 lol 19:18:07 man i'm salty about that death. that was a really good char... 19:18:10 PleasingFungus: you speak Russian? 19:18:11 n 19:18:32 i'm doing duolingo so i keep accidentally switching my keyboard into the wrong layout 19:18:49 or leaving it switched into cyrillic, i guess i should say 19:19:23 -!- Drac has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:19:42 gammafunk: What would you consider a hard nemelex choice 19:20:02 !lg PleasingFungus 19:20:03 436. pleasingfungus the Bludgeoner (L14 OgAE of Kikubaaqudgha), slain by a hellwing (summoned by an orc high priest) on Orc:2 (pubby_orc_utopia) on 2016-05-06 23:13:48, with 60040 points after 20119 turns and 1:34:50. 19:20:11 wow...pubbied 19:20:14 ya 19:20:17 there was no reason for me to die there 19:20:23 i just thought i could kill the high priest 19:20:25 and i couldn't! 19:20:28 gammafunk: is there usually any coordination on the dev team towards like, "hey could you win an OpIE for us?" or does everyone just play whatever they want? 19:20:31 Lightli: a nem choice that chooses are hard character, but only hard relatively speaking of course 19:20:55 orc high priests, man. not even once 19:21:04 amalloy: yeah we are pretty casual, there's no coordination aside from a rule established by bh: "try to win if you haven't won once yet" 19:21:45 it's more of a "hey try to get at least one win" type of clan 19:22:28 PleasingFungus: post a mea culpa on SA right now, admitting how bad you are 19:22:44 i already told them all the good devs play on awbw... 19:22:45 :) 19:23:12 amalloy: If you want to be on a clan that's more about trying to win/have a good showing, I think that's what Lasty goes for 19:23:23 no, not at all 19:23:28 i barely participate in t 19:23:43 but if i am on a team i want to make sure i'm playing in the same spirit as the others on it 19:23:50 gammafunk: it's not for the points 19:23:50 Lasty: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:23:52 right, thanks for asking 19:24:02 Lasty: don't you try to get a good number of wins? 19:24:02 I was crawling w/ them long before devteam 19:24:10 gammafunk: when I have the time 19:24:19 I guess I thought maybe your clan tries to be more competetive 19:24:26 they do 19:24:27 it's true 19:24:33 !lastgames . t0.17 19:24:35 Last 10 games for amalloy: L4 DsSu^ (a white imp), L25 VpAE^Kiku (winning), L26 DrIE^Zin (winning), L27 FoAr^Qaz (a pandemonium lord), L1 FoEn^ (quitting) 19:24:37 I'm usually like 3rd-5th on the team 19:25:20 wow, died as a Fo^Qaz to a pan lord 19:25:26 my only orbrun death 19:25:28 it was glorious 19:25:33 good summary of Fo^Qaz imo 19:25:38 I died w/ a vamp lajatang to a 15-headed hydra :p 19:25:44 it was all my fault ofc 19:25:49 bad plans + lig 19:26:00 i pressed < while at 1/4 health 19:26:02 wow, i didn't know the game spawned 15-headed hydras!!! 19:26:07 instead of just killing the tormentor and then resting 19:26:21 PleasingFungus: yep 19:28:06 amalloy: I came somewhat close on d:1 on my Fo, and after finally employing various hijinks to escape the panlord + tzizt 19:28:16 I reallize it would have probably been way easier to just shaft when all that came into los 19:28:25 yeah, i realized that too 19:28:42 gammafunk: i've told the story in -dev before. the best part is the sick combo the pan lord used to kill me 19:29:01 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:29:04 !lg amalloy foar !won max=xl x=ckaux 19:29:05 he dropped a fulminant prism next to me, and then when i pressed < to escape him, he zapped me with chain lightning 19:29:05 1. [ckaux=chain lightning] amalloy the Formicid Cataclysm (L27 FoAr of Qazlal), blasted by Qurch the pandemonium lord (chain lightning) on Depths:5 on 2015-11-08 00:55:02, with 637206 points after 76381 turns and 6:26:43. 19:29:08 nice 19:29:17 bounced several times 19:29:21 !lg amalloy foar !won max=xl x=ckaux,dam,sdam,tdam 19:29:21 since the prism was adjacent 19:29:21 1. [ckaux=chain lightning;dam=21;sdam=98;tdam=98] amalloy the Formicid Cataclysm (L27 FoAr of Qazlal), blasted by Qurch the pandemonium lord (chain lightning) on Depths:5 on 2015-11-08 00:55:02, with 637206 points after 76381 turns and 6:26:43. 19:29:25 wow 98 19:29:40 did the fulminant count as part of that? 19:29:43 as in all on the same turn? 19:29:44 i'm not sure 19:29:52 i don't remember it even exploding 19:29:56 i think the CL killed me 19:30:05 so the prism never went off 19:30:09 it was just an anchor for the CL 19:30:20 !lg amalloy foar !won max=xl x=ckaux,dam,sdam,tdam,hp,mhp 19:30:21 1. [ckaux=chain lightning;dam=21;sdam=98;tdam=98;hp=-17;mhp=255] amalloy the Formicid Cataclysm (L27 FoAr of Qazlal), blasted by Qurch the pandemonium lord (chain lightning) on Depths:5 on 2015-11-08 00:55:02, with 637206 points after 76381 turns and 6:26:43. 19:31:43 !lg amalloy foar !won max=xl -tv:<0.2:x0.5 19:31:44 1. amalloy, XL27 FoAr, T:76381 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 19:32:07 yeah, the prism never exploded 19:32:16 interesting 19:32:33 !lg * recent ckaux=chain_lightning max=tdam x=dam,tdam 19:32:34 655. [dam=32;tdam=153] hortensia the Severer (L21 FoFi of Cheibriados), blasted by Nikola (chain lightning) on Swamp:2 on 2015-04-27 04:19:33, with 256386 points after 46010 turns and 2:36:36. 19:32:41 another Fo 19:32:46 !lg * recent ckaux=chain_lightning max=tdam x=dam,tdam,hp 19:32:46 655. [dam=32;tdam=153;hp=-5] hortensia the Severer (L21 FoFi of Cheibriados), blasted by Nikola (chain lightning) on Swamp:2 on 2015-04-27 04:19:33, with 256386 points after 46010 turns and 2:36:36. 19:32:50 !lg * recent ckaux=chain_lightning max=tdam x=dam,tdam,hp -2 19:32:51 654/655. [dam=31;tdam=149;hp=-12] StaffofEnergy the Brawler (L21 OpMo of Cheibriados), blasted by Nikola (chain lightning) on Vaults:3 on 2016-02-10 06:56:42, with 303467 points after 36424 turns and 1:10:16. 19:33:00 all these chei games... 19:33:01 although chei/swamp is cheating 19:33:04 *no comment* 19:33:07 !lg * recent ckaux=chain_lightning max=tdam x=dam,tdam,hp -3 19:33:10 653/655. [dam=39;tdam=137;hp=-1] deszczowiec the Warrior (L16 FoFi of Qazlal), blasted by Nikola (chain lightning) on Snake:3 on 2015-03-30 17:11:39, with 97945 points after 27378 turns and 4:25:48. 19:33:12 lol 19:35:44 Qaz and Chei, the Champions of Chain Lightning 19:35:44 !whichgod ha 19:35:44 316 recent wins: 62x Okawaru, 45x Trog, 31x Dithmenos, 25x Gozag, 24x The Shining One, 20x Ashenzari, 15x Zin, 14x Ru, 13x Yredelemnul, 11x Cheibriados, 8x Pakellas, 8x Makhleb, 7x Lugonu, 7x Nemelex Xobeh, 5x Fedhas, 5x Xom, 4x Jiyva, 3x Kikubaaqudgha, 3x Qazlal, 2x Vehumet, 2x Elyvilon, Ukayaw, 19:35:44 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:35:44 !lm PleasingFungus 19:35:44 6513. [2016-05-06 23:21:02] pleasingfungus the Grave Robber (L1 HaNe) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 19:35:44 Ne more important than Ha! 19:35:44 !apt ha 19:35:44 Ha: Fighting: -1, Short: 3!, Long: 0, Axes: -1, Maces: -2, Polearms: -3*, Staves: -2, Slings: 4!, Bows: 2, Xbows: -1, Throw: 1!, Armour: 1, Dodge: 1, Stealth: 2, Shields: 1, UC: -2*, Splcast: -3, Conj: -2, Hexes: -1, Charms: 1, Summ: -1, Nec: -2, Tloc: 1, Tmut: -4*, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: 1, Earth: 0, Poison: -1, Inv: 1, Evo: 0, Exp: 1!, HP: -1, MP: 0 19:35:44 wow, -2 necro 19:35:44 i don't think i've put a point of xp into ne 19:35:44 +3 on sbl vs -2 on ne makes for easy choices in early d 19:35:44 imo 19:35:44 hm 19:35:44 !lm . oka 19:35:44 584. [2015-12-20 20:11:57] PleasingFungus the Skirmisher (L3 DsWn of Okawaru) prayed at an ecumenical altar on turn 514. (D:2) 19:35:44 heh 19:35:44 i mean, oka's not bad. 19:37:33 Yeah it does depend on how intent you are on ne-ing 19:37:39 I guess I assuming you were into ne-ing 19:37:43 *assumed 19:38:01 !nchoice 19:38:12 OgAE: 0 wins || MorganLeah: CBRO, L19 Shatterer of Okawaru || Enish: CUE, L18 Slayer of Ashenzari || jumbajumba: CAO, L16 Shatterer of Ru || amaril: CBRO, L16 Bludgeoner of Dithmenos || WhiteShark: CAO, L16 Shatterer of Trog || Leszczynek: CUE, L16 Bludgeoner of Sif Muna || Floodkiller: CBRO, L12 Basher of Okawaru || Izverg: CAO, L10 Basher of No God || glosham: CJR, L10 Warrior of Cheibriados || ... 19:38:23 best ne strat is to not ne. Just Say Neh 19:38:58 !lm ogae t rune s=name,rune 19:38:59 No milestones for ogae (t rune). 19:40:02 er 19:40:05 !lm * ogae t rune s=name,rune 19:40:05 3 milestones for * (ogae t rune): 2x MorganLeah (decaying, gossamer), Eucla (serpentine) 19:40:23 keep it up, morganleah. win that ogae for me 19:46:59 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:48:59 @@worker ant 19:49:02 @??worker ant 19:49:02 worker ant (05a) | Spd: 12 | HD: 3 | HP: 13-19 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 808(poison:6-12) | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 09poison | XP: 33 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 19:53:10 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:57:13 then we see the next nem choice 19:57:20 FoAr 19:57:39 and, strangely...what is that?! Does it say you have to worship Qaz? Huh. 19:58:43 -!- tw12we has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:29 you know that early-ish vault with the 5x3 metal box filled with insects 19:59:35 can it not have butterflies in it please 19:59:43 oh, i just did that one 19:59:44 i`m ready 20:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:19 i`m formally requesting clan placement from the dev team 20:01:46 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:01:59 Hm... 20:02:01 denied. 20:02:04 that vault is pretty old, I want to say 20:02:32 !lm devteamnp s=name 20:02:35 er 20:02:49 334363 milestones for devteamnp: 66978x 78291, 27756x MarvinPA, 23284x Neil, 20915x elliptic, 20077x gammafunk, 19371x KiloByte, 15934x Lasty, 15895x wheals, 12179x dpeg, 11421x Medar, 10731x SGrunt, 8916x sorear, 8898x rob, 7756x itsmu, 6521x pleasingfungus, 6516x evilmike, 6216x pointless, 5716x erisdiscordia, 5466x doy, 5407x bh, 4441x amalloy, 4288x HangedMan, 3299x ontoclasm, 2941x reaver, 29... 20:03:02 !lm devteamnp t x=cdist(gid) s=name 20:03:03 114 milestones for devteamnp (t): 33x pleasingfungus [4], 33x Medar [2], 28x Lasty [4], 20x dpeg [4] 20:03:32 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:03:45 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:04:51 ontoclasm: you already have a clan, right? 20:04:57 nope 20:05:06 want to join Wizards Without Wizlabs? 20:05:11 haha, sure 20:05:23 #TEAMCAPTAIN gammafunk as first line of your 0.18 rc 20:05:24 i dunno how much i'll get to play, but probably a little 20:05:36 sure, nice if you can get a win 20:05:38 but no worries 20:05:59 usually each tourney i manage to get ~3 wins 20:09:55 heh 20:10:02 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:10:04 cigo's armour notes that it has no effect on players "with stoneskin active" 20:10:08 !t 20:10:20 hm, dgl spectating seems to be broken on CJR 20:10:28 oh, does it crash? 20:10:35 no, it just doesn't show any games 20:10:38 in the list 20:10:48 I recall Zibudo mentioning crashes during spectating at some point 20:10:52 (but there are several in progress) 20:10:53 -!- Dracunos has quit [] 20:11:08 elliptic: I see games listed 20:11:15 two by glaas 20:11:20 er 20:11:31 I spectated and got "See you soon, glass!" 20:11:32 and it froze 20:11:44 Sorry, no games available for viewing. 20:11:58 yeah now after reconnecting, it shows that 20:12:13 I had to break the ssh connection, when I came back glaas' games were gone 20:12:42 !tell Zibudo It seems like watching games on console might be broken on cjr; It's not showing games, or it's perhaps showing some stale games sometimes 20:12:43 gammafunk: OK, I'll let zibudo know. 20:15:46 any tournament deaths to dart slugs yet? 20:16:04 !lg * t killer="dart slug" 20:16:05 7. jerkstore the Gusty (L1 TeAE), blasted by a dart slug (slug dart) on D:1 on 2016-05-06 23:39:17, with 4 points after 185 turns and 0:01:57. 20:16:08 pew 20:16:15 !hs * t 20:16:15 1000. KomeijiKoishi the Slayer (L27 MiBe), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2016-05-06 23:13:03, with 2626208 points after 59485 turns and 2:44:56. 20:16:18 nice 20:17:01 !lg devteamnp killer=dart_slug s=name 20:17:02 3 games for devteamnp (killer=dart_slug): gammafunk, neil, wheals 20:17:22 mine was intentional 20:17:44 just couldn't live an a world where dart slugs exist, had to end it all 20:18:28 !tv gammafunk rangedignominy 20:18:29 1. gammafunk, XL1 SpWr, T:249 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:19:07 haha this tv needs a sound track 20:19:13 @??orc warrior 20:19:13 orc warrior (08o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 4 | HP: 25-33 | AC/EV: 9/10 | Dam: 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 132 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 20:19:22 <|amethyst> !learn edit neil_clans[1] s/$/; Actual Cannibal Shia LaBeogh/ 20:19:22 neil clans[1/1]: Ynoxinulstellensatz; In the Court of the Crimson Imp; Miranda That Player Ghost Just Isnt Holy Anymore; One Flew Over the Khufus Nest; Godspeed You Emperor Scorpion; Young TrCKs; HuAr You HuHu HuHu; Who Killed Mr Moon Troll; Actual Cannibal Shia LaBeogh 20:19:32 <|amethyst> !lern del reserved_clan_names[4] 20:19:35 <|amethyst> !learn del reserved_clan_names[4] 20:19:35 Deleted reserved clan names[4/15]: Actual Cannibal Shia LaBeogh [|amethyst] 20:20:57 oh, also I guess it isn't possible to play 0.18 in CJR console 20:21:06 HuAr You HuHu HuHu that's funny 20:21:10 0.18 is listed as an option but it just takes you to 0.17 20:21:26 yikes 20:21:27 I wonder if that is related to the lack of games in the spectator menu somehow 20:21:30 <|amethyst> elliptic: hm, doesn't for me 20:21:37 <|amethyst> elliptic: oh, admin vs regular menu 20:22:13 wow, that gammafunk tv was extremely good 20:22:18 right!? 20:22:18 <|amethyst> !tell ZiBuDo looks like the main_user menu in dgamelaunch.conf has '8' take you to the 0.17 submenu rather than 0.18 20:22:19 |amethyst: OK, I'll let zibudo know. 20:25:29 !kw rangedignominy 20:25:30 Keyword: rangedignominy => ckiller=dart_slug 20:25:33 !tv gammafunk rangedignominy 20:25:34 1. gammafunk, XL1 SpWr, T:249 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:26:21 chequers: surely that should only count if ktyp=beam 20:26:39 i'm loathe to change another's kw 20:26:43 chequers: do it 20:26:49 !kw rangedignominy ckiller=dart_slug ktyp=beam 20:26:50 Defined keyword: rangedignominy => ckiller=dart_slug ktyp=beam 20:28:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 20:28:50 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:28:55 chequers: is the next nchoice chosen instantly after the first win, or does it take a while? i seem to recall it wasn't instantaneous 20:30:51 amalloy: the next time the scripts update (usually 10 minutes or so) 20:30:52 -!- neizenel has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:57 so as instantly as possible 20:31:04 i see 20:31:24 !lg . spwr / won 20:31:25 1/3 games for gammafunk (spwr): N=1/3 (33.33%) 20:31:32 it appears that deep troll earth magi do not like to LRD walls that are next to plants 20:31:35 because plants count as friends 20:31:43 unless you're with fedhas of course 20:32:12 -!- Orphics has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:32:30 footv never works for me 20:32:51 -!- nikheizen has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:33:13 minmay: maybe at some point plants should get their own "faction" or whatever it's called 20:33:30 like whatever neutral_good is 20:33:49 <|amethyst> attitude 20:33:49 how much extra damage is dith shadow worth 20:33:55 |amethyst: yeah 20:34:17 firewood attitude 20:34:20 <|amethyst> ??shadow mimic 20:34:20 shadow mimic[1/1]: Dithmenos' **** power (passive). Your shadow mimicks your attacks with a frequency depending on piety, 10% chance at **** and 50% at 200 piety. Melee and ranged weapons use an unbranded +0 weapon of your wielded type, and conjurations use "shadow shard" or "shadow bolt", dealing nonelemental damage regardless of your conjuration. Hexes make a second hex attempt. 20:34:39 ah, complex 20:35:15 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:35:58 <|amethyst> shadow shard/bolt are 3d(8+power/11), but that's the shadow mimic's spell power, not yours 20:35:59 !lg * rangedignominy recent 20:36:00 1466. jerkstore the Gusty (L1 TeAE), blasted by a dart slug (slug dart) on D:1 on 2016-05-06 23:39:17, with 4 points after 185 turns and 0:01:57. 20:36:05 !lg * killer="dart slug" recent 20:36:06 1758. jerkstore the Gusty (L1 TeAE), blasted by a dart slug (slug dart) on D:1 on 2016-05-06 23:39:17, with 4 points after 185 turns and 0:01:57. 20:36:11 some difference, i suppose 20:36:38 <|amethyst> chequers: shadow throw coppies your ammo, but I'm not sure how that interacts with launchers 20:36:39 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:36:39 -!- Shred has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:36:43 <|amethyst> s/coppies/copies/ 20:37:06 <|amethyst> chequers: oh, right, launchers would be the same as weapons, +0 unbranded 20:38:00 <|amethyst> !lg * killer="dart slug" s=ktyp 20:38:01 1758 games for * (killer='dart slug'): 1466x beam, 292x mon 20:38:03 <|amethyst> !kw recent 20:38:04 Keyword: recent => cv>=0.16 20:38:16 <|amethyst> !kw current 20:38:16 Keyword: current => cv>=0.17 20:38:23 oh yeah, is it time to upgrade those keywords? 20:38:25 <|amethyst> !kw current cv>=0.18 20:38:26 Defined keyword: current => cv>=0.18 20:38:30 <|amethyst> !kw recent cv>=0.17 20:38:32 Defined keyword: recent => cv>=0.17 20:38:43 <|amethyst> !kw recentish cv>=0.16 20:38:44 Defined keyword: recentish => cv>=0.16 20:39:07 I've been wanting to make that kw but didn't know what to call it 20:39:16 <|amethyst> kw somewhatrecent cv>=0.15 20:39:21 <|amethyst> kw chokorecent 20:39:22 fr: currentish trunkish 20:40:12 oh, I'd thought we update those kw after the t, btw 20:40:15 maybe I'm misremembering 20:40:22 <|amethyst> hm 20:40:30 <|amethyst> maybe? 20:40:31 still no 15 rune win 20:40:42 !hs * cwz t 20:40:43 12. KomeijiKoishi the Slayer (L27 MiBe), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2016-05-06 23:13:03, with 2626208 points after 59485 turns and 2:44:56. 20:40:57 wow, and cwz so that's not even a win 20:40:57 !lm * cwz t max=urune 20:40:58 274. [2016-05-06 23:16:41] irum the Slayer (L27 VSFi of The Shining One) found an obsidian rune of Zot on turn 70694. (Geh:7) 20:41:12 -!- neizenel is now known as nikheizen 20:41:20 what's the piety decay on pakellas 20:41:42 chequers: looks like tabstorm is going for 15 20:41:50 !gameinfo tabstorm 20:41:52 tabstorm the L27 GrGl^TSO in Dis:7 (cbro tiles), T:67398, runes: 6 (icy, bone, slimy...), defenses: 70/16/0, stats: 23/8/19, >15 skills: Fighting,Staves,Armour,Dodging,Invocations 20:42:21 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:42:56 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:43:21 sadly he killed SoH 20:43:43 !lm * t nrune=15 alive s=name 20:43:44 17 milestones for * (t nrune=15 alive): 17x HungrySpirit 20:44:09 sadly? 20:44:13 &watch tabstorm 20:44:14 http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-tabstorm 20:44:34 !lg * ikiller=serpent_of_hell 20:44:36 17. Arafel the Evocator (L27 DsNe of Nemelex Xobeh), blasted by a Serpent of Hell (blast of hellfire) on Geh:7 (geh_mu) on 2011-02-11 17:58:14, with 704844 points after 136851 turns and 18:07:05. 20:44:40 !lg * ikiller=serpent_of_hell s=name 20:44:41 17 games for * (ikiller=serpent_of_hell): 2x 78291, mikee, EatEverythingOfYou, heteroy0, snoopy, valrus, Gub, clouded, DrPraetor, Blyxx, NyaaKitty, meneril, Blackmore, Arafel, ToastyP, xyblor 20:44:41 <|amethyst> minmay: 1/17 like yred/kiku/veh/zin 20:44:47 oh that's old 20:44:48 !kw t 20:44:49 Built-in: t => start>='2016-05-06 20:00:00' time<'2016-05-22 20:00:00' cv=0.18 explbr= 20:44:51 !lg * ikiller=the_serpent_of_hell s=name 20:44:52 158 games for * (ikiller=the_serpent_of_hell): 3x Tabstorm, 2x 4thArraOfDagon, 2x qtip, 2x mino, 2x axecop, 2x zarick13, 2x damdam, 2x Sharkman1231, 2x xorb813, whales2, tlatlagkaus, seareal, svendre, CaptBlasto, chequers, Dredmor, mooon, rangest, ajon, PleasingFungus, Instar, Gerad, LiLin, melllvar, pmiller623, Frenchkiss, DerFusl, Megaslime, bmfx, ythm, Nightdew, b561248, letownia, MackTheKnife,... 20:44:55 only 17 deaths to SoH ever? 20:44:55 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:44:58 <|amethyst> ??piety decay 20:44:58 piety[4/6]: Piety for most gods decays over time: 1/14 every 20 turns for Trog, Oka; 1/16 for Makhleb, Lugonu, Beogh, Dithmenos; 1/17 for Yred, Kiku, Vehumet, Zin; 1/20 for Jiyva; 1/25 for Ash; 1/35 for Nemelex, The Shining One; 1/50 for Elyvilon; 1/100 for Sif. {Xom} has his own system. Chei, Ru and Fedhas piety does not decay. 20:44:59 that's the old name 20:45:03 ah 20:45:06 now it's "the serpent of hell" 20:45:13 <|amethyst> !learn edit piety[4] s/Zin/Zin, Pakellas/ 20:45:14 piety[4/6]: Piety for most gods decays over time: 1/14 every 20 turns for Trog, Oka; 1/16 for Makhleb, Lugonu, Beogh, Dithmenos; 1/17 for Yred, Kiku, Vehumet, Zin, Pakellas; 1/20 for Jiyva; 1/25 for Ash; 1/35 for Nemelex, The Shining One; 1/50 for Elyvilon; 1/100 for Sif. {Xom} has his own system. Chei, Ru and Fedhas piety does not decay. 20:45:16 !lg * cjr !t 20:45:17 57. qwqw the Shield-Bearer (L1 HuFi), quit the game on D:1 (onia_arrival_zoo_common) on 2016-05-07 00:20:41, with 0 points after 2 turns and 0:01:01. 20:45:23 <|amethyst> oh 20:45:32 <|amethyst> several old numbers there 20:45:34 !lg gw t 20:45:34 No games for gw (t). 20:46:06 a~. 20:46:22 woo, new nemchoice time 20:46:25 !nchoice 20:46:26 Time for a new nchoice! It will appear shortly on the tournament website (if it hasn't yet). Type "=nemelex XXXX" to update !nchoice with the new combo, where XXXX should be replaced by the new combo. 20:46:32 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 20:46:50 i'll probly get cracking on that in around an hour. go team WwW 20:47:11 nemchoice is manually updated? 20:47:20 thought the tourney scripts did all that 20:47:23 oh NN 20:47:25 mm 20:47:29 nm 20:47:38 updating sequell probably 20:47:39 <|amethyst> !learn set piety[4] Piety for most gods decays over time: 1/16 every 20 turns for Trog, Oka, Makhleb, Beogh, Lugonu, Dithmenus, Qazlal; 1/7 for Yred, Kiku, Vehumet, Zin, Pakellas; 1/20 for Jiyva; 1/25 for Ash; 1/35 for Nemelex and TSO; 1/50 for Elyvilon; 1/100 for Sif. Chei, Ru, and Fedhas piety does not decay. {Xom} has eir own system. 20:47:40 piety[4/6]: Piety for most gods decays over time: 1/16 every 20 turns for Trog, Oka, Makhleb, Beogh, Lugonu, Dithmenus, Qazlal; 1/7 for Yred, Kiku, Vehumet, Zin, Pakellas; 1/20 for Jiyva; 1/25 for Ash; 1/35 for Nemelex and TSO; 1/50 for Elyvilon; 1/100 for Sif. Chei, Ru, and Fedhas piety does not decay. {Xom} has eir own system. 20:48:09 oh wow 20:48:13 I've already won ghee 20:48:58 ^vps 20:48:58 CBRO disk usage=66% | RAM usage=68% | uptime/CPU= 20:48:57 up 540 days, 6:07, 10 users, load average: 1.66, 1.57, 1.68 20:49:01 oh we have another team slot, I keep forgetting it's 5 + captain 20:49:45 it's cool that we always eventually get cwz set up 20:49:56 seems there's always at least one prominent cwz player competeing in the t 20:52:48 honest admission 20:53:09 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 20:53:23 the ascetic banner seems really luck-based because you can't remove cursed items 20:53:42 have you tried not putting cursed items on 20:53:57 the issue is you can't see what's cursed until you do so unless you worship ash 20:54:36 many items will come with their curse status identified. 20:54:39 <|amethyst> you could not put on items that would fuch you if you curse them 20:54:47 also that, ofc 20:54:48 <|amethyst> s/ch/ck/ 20:55:11 -!- Canard has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:55:11 so all weapons ever 20:55:16 <|amethyst> and not put on glowing/runed items since those are likely to be cursed, and more likely on the first few floors (where items aren't as good) 20:55:18 (since regular white weapons can still be cursed) 20:55:36 a luck based banner? in crawl?! 20:55:36 Well we remove unarmed combat 20:55:41 so Lightli does have a point 20:55:52 *removed 20:56:01 <|amethyst> also 20:56:07 <|amethyst> if you do put on a cursed item 20:56:20 <|amethyst> you can try for ascetic next game 20:56:24 true 20:56:32 yeah, I didn't wield that cursed battleaxe until Lair:$ 20:56:35 (so I got ascetic 2 20:56:51 tbh i feel like cursed items are one of the least hard parts about ascetic 20:57:02 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:57:10 it's not even hard, it's just a random fuck you if you're shooting for the banner 20:57:22 Yeah, the hardest part is knowing that going for the banner encouragest Lasty to dream up more stuff like that, I agree 20:57:34 "oops that weapon was cursed and -3, better luck next game" 20:57:50 someone better get ascetic 3 20:57:58 Go for a Lasty banner, next thing you know he's adding a new randart property! 20:58:01 lightli, with all due respect, you need to stop whining. 20:58:04 ok 20:58:17 ty. 20:58:29 honestly I probably would still have been able to do it, it's just I sucked and tried tabbing Orc:$ with said -1 battleaxe 20:58:31 i spent a lot of time preparing to disable it 20:58:32 which did not end well 20:59:02 I'm glad hong got all the morgues/milestons up in addition to getting 0.18 installed 20:59:19 I figured he's get 0.18 setup up but there would be problems with that 20:59:28 *he'd 20:59:41 <|amethyst> I guess that means scoring needs another restart 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:18 ah, I need to check that cjr games are being scored on cao as well 21:00:27 <|amethyst> they should be 21:00:34 <|amethyst> !lg * won cjr 21:00:36 2. braveplatypus the Invulnerable (L27 DDBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-05-06 23:09:08, with 1906248 points after 55710 turns and 2:22:17. 21:00:44 hrm 21:01:01 |amethyst: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/beem.html shows games without morgue links, is this normal? 21:01:07 <|amethyst> http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/braveplatypus.html 21:01:26 nice 21:01:34 <|amethyst> !lg beem -log 21:01:35 8. beem, XL1 DESu, T:45: http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/morgue-0.18/beem/morgue-beem-20160506-215049.txt 21:01:38 oh 21:01:40 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:01:46 beem plays games? 21:01:56 yeah, and much better than ProzacElf does 21:02:00 for something that isn't whining, I do like how ascetic makes confusion actually a threat past the early game 21:02:07 hmm, my cdo games don't seem to have shown up on tourney site 21:02:16 LIES 21:02:31 |amethyst: do you get any ssl warnings wen you click on the morgue links on cjr for braveplatypus? 21:02:39 MarvinPA: my ones do 21:02:44 <|amethyst> !lg MarvinPA oh 21:02:45 No keyword 'oh' 21:02:48 <|amethyst> er 21:02:50 <|amethyst> gammafunk: oh 21:02:51 <|amethyst> yes 21:02:57 Chrome seems to not like its cert 21:03:12 <|amethyst> I had www.jorgrun.rocks for some reason 21:03:30 <|amethyst> !lg MarvinPA cdo 21:03:31 2675. MarvinPA the Ogre Mage (L8 OgAE of Yredelemnul), engulfed by a cloud of freezing vapour on D:5 (lemuel_ice_spiral_2) on 2016-05-07 00:31:44, with 962 points after 7262 turns and 0:13:33. 21:03:37 -!- yesno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:03:42 !lg marvinpa cdo t 21:03:43 2. MarvinPA the Ogre Mage (L8 OgAE of Yredelemnul), engulfed by a cloud of freezing vapour on D:5 (lemuel_ice_spiral_2) on 2016-05-07 00:31:44, with 962 points after 7262 turns and 0:13:33. 21:04:05 also cdo claims "Only Stone Soup 0.17 counts for the tournament! 21:04:06 " but i'm assuming that's an unrelated thing 21:05:02 I also see that mpa's clan registration is not seen by t scripts 21:05:15 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:05:21 &rc elliptic 0.18 cbro 21:05:22 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I bet it's skipping things with score == 0 21:05:22 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.18/elliptic.rc 21:05:43 |amethyst: ah, I saw that turns>0 those games, but maybe they were pointless games 21:05:48 <|amethyst> gammafunk: or rather, they show up as score="" 21:05:56 that makes sense, thanks 21:06:04 <|amethyst> aha 21:06:07 <|amethyst> the links are even there 21:06:18 <|amethyst> just the anchor is an empty string 21:06:24 <|amethyst> so you can't see or click on them 21:06:31 heh, nice 21:06:33 <|amethyst> s/anchor/link text/ 21:06:53 guess it needs to print 0 instead of empty string 21:07:16 welp, aside from the https url, the games are in there, which is what's important 21:08:04 <|amethyst> !lg marvinpa 21:08:06 3087. MarvinPA the Ogre Mage (L8 OgAE of Yredelemnul), engulfed by a cloud of freezing vapour on D:5 (lemuel_ice_spiral_2) on 2016-05-07 00:31:44, with 962 points after 7262 turns and 0:13:33. 21:08:23 -!- Erik_the_Red has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:08:34 <|amethyst> scoring has that file 21:08:55 http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/players/marvinpa.html 21:08:59 has the games, no? 21:09:06 <|amethyst> scoring does not 21:09:14 <|amethyst> it has dpeg's CDO OgAE 21:09:23 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 21:09:26 <|amethyst> why not marvinpa's 21:10:02 um...is there an actual use for the potions of magic that pakellas gives me as a mummy 21:10:09 nope 21:10:20 well, you could throw them at things 21:10:34 <|amethyst> travel back in time and sacrifice them to nemelex to get decks of wonder 21:10:51 It doesn't see marvinpa's clan but I'm not sure when it was added 21:11:07 nor actually where elliptic's rc is defined, I need to just check the cszo login actually 21:11:14 I guess I wasn't expecting a non-xom god in a stable release to give unusable items 21:11:36 <|amethyst> hmm 21:11:43 yes it's a bug we should fix, it should have been fixed pre-release obviously 21:12:15 gammafunk: I put my team listing in my CAO rcfile 21:13:12 ok, I see it in the teams-0.18.sh script 21:13:43 not in the cdo one 21:13:49 maybe it just hasn't fetched 21:14:30 PleasingFungus: i just ran into a howler monkey that failed to wake up an ant like 12 squares away -- maybethey could be louder 21:14:41 maybe it's just slow yeah, seems like the games took a while but are there now 21:14:41 was there a wall? 21:14:43 well remember how walls attenuate noise 21:14:52 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: so, you and dpeg have games in the same logfile immediately adjacent, but the tags are slightly different 21:14:54 yeah, around several corners 21:14:55 no amount of noise can travel thorugh thick enough wall 21:15:06 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: dpegs' have vsavrv=Git::0.18.1-1-g2f07953 and yours do not 21:15:30 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: I wouldn't think that would matter here 21:15:48 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: but maybe some other tag is missing... but why? 21:16:05 cdo is rc update every 15 mins 21:17:27 gammafunk: the problem is that http://crawl.develz.org/cgi-bin/teams-0.18.sh isn't set up 21:17:36 oh 21:17:46 gammafunk: it should look like http://crawl.develz.org/cgi-bin/teams-0.17.sh 21:18:09 -!- cang has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:18:09 riggght, some some servers have that script instead of having their rc files fetched 21:18:19 let's see if I can even change that 21:18:32 I think I can't make files in that cgi-bin 21:18:54 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:33 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:50 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: let's see if it shows up once it rebuilds your page on reload? 21:22:20 ah, ok I see the cgi-bin for cdo 21:22:25 but yeah requires root to update the script 21:25:21 Napkin: Can you set up the teams-0.18.sh script in the cgi-bin for CDO? 21:25:37 elliptic: we could maybe just have the t fetch those rcs for now, I guess on a 4-hour schedule? 21:25:54 lmao 21:26:15 lmao related? 21:26:20 n 21:26:25 !lg . te t 21:26:26 1. pleasingfungus the Slasher (L5 TeAK of Lugonu), slain by a giant gecko on D:2 on 2016-05-07 01:25:53, with 135 points after 2494 turns and 0:04:52. 21:26:58 We're going to have to find a good wiki guide to have PleasingFungus read at this rate 21:27:27 gammafunk: yeah, it was only using the cgi-bin because nap kin preferred that (less demanding of the server than wgetting an entire directory) 21:27:50 yeah, and we can switch to that if he sees this, but I haven't seen him around a lot these last few days 21:28:12 !lg . won 21:28:12 38. PleasingFungus the Impregnable (L24 MiWr of Qazlal), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-12-05 07:29:22, with 2295621 points after 37492 turns and 4:11:06. 21:28:16 time flies 21:28:34 I blame qaz for driving you away 21:28:58 *if napkin sees my request and installs the new script 21:30:05 Although if we did, I suppose we'd have to mention on the t page that it's on a four hour schedule for cdo 21:31:14 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:34:54 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:38:31 gammafunk: probably adding a cronjob to fetch CDO rcfile at some frequency is a good idea for now anyway 21:38:54 ok, maybe I'll just go ahead and do that now 21:40:39 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:45:27 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 21:47:45 I've put in a crontab for a cdo rc fetch every 4 hours 21:48:02 seems to be working, although unfortunately it's also fetching .macro files 21:48:19 hopefully the t script isn't confused by that 21:48:27 &rc . trunk cao 21:48:29 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/amalloy.rc 21:48:48 and I see mpa's in his clan now, so that's good 21:48:50 gammafunk: you can exclude macro files 21:49:01 yeah I was lazy and didn't look up the wget arg 21:49:07 the cronjob is on tourney@crawl.s-z.org yes? 21:49:26 ah, i also need to find the cwz clans 21:50:23 R '*.macro' 21:50:29 is there a way to figure out how many webtiles players I have playing right now? 21:50:46 johnstein: look at the lobby? 21:50:46 I could do ^players but that only lists the current players 21:50:46 that shows console players too 21:50:50 oh 21:50:51 oh, right 21:50:53 well 21:50:58 yeah there probably is 21:51:04 in config.py there's a max_connections 21:51:06 = 200 21:51:11 -!- Shasbat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:51:13 wonder if that counts watchers? 21:51:24 yep, it does 21:51:28 ouch 21:51:32 I have about 100 players 21:51:40 chequers: the rc files are fetched into their own dirs for each server 21:51:47 so you can look in cwz's 21:51:54 I guess you could also directly query the mysql 21:51:56 so means counting ^players or the number of players in the lobby will give an accurate count 21:52:02 fwiw, I think webtiles-changes has a bug where if you hit the limit, the server will stop accepting any new connections ever 21:52:06 grep for TEAMNAME or whatever it is 21:52:26 i.e. webtiles players + (console + webtiles) watchers 21:52:28 !lg * cwz t 21:52:29 28. mooon the Magician (L4 DgWz), quit the game on D:7 on 2016-05-07 01:52:10, with 93 points after 1826 turns and 0:06:56. 21:52:34 &rc mooon 21:52:37 I had reports of websocket errors 21:52:40 ?rc mooon 0.18 21:52:57 i wonder if they're accessible 21:53:04 there's probably no way to get how many total connections are used up? 21:53:19 i.e. how many webtiles players + (console + webtiles) watchers 21:53:25 not that I know of 21:53:35 oh, console watchers don't count as a connection to the webtiles server 21:54:10 chequers: what do you mean accessible, if they weren't cwz clans wouldn't work 21:54:21 there's a crontab entry right now to fetch them 21:54:29 chequers, but wouldn't it if you are watching a console player via webtiles? 21:54:37 oh dang 21:54:44 actually the cwz fetch is getting user dirs 21:54:45 i didn't realise there was a crontab entry already 21:54:58 empty ones 21:55:09 chequers: yeah, if there wasn't, then clans wouldn't work 21:55:22 since we'd get no rcs except for maybe the one time someone ran it manually 21:55:25 hm 21:55:31 an orc warrior hit me so hard that i fell through a shaft 21:55:44 looks like we shoould modify the cwz fetch to only include rc 21:55:54 maybe we shoudl make them all that way 21:56:42 oh the cwz fetch is pretty weird 21:56:56 there are only like 2 actual rcs 21:57:05 but it's got a ton of stuff from the recursive retrieve 21:57:23 ^vps 21:57:23 CBRO disk usage=65% | RAM usage=84% | uptime/CPU= 21:57:22 up 540 days, 7:16, 9 users, load average: 2.36, 2.41, 2.66 21:57:27 gammafunk: I see more than 2 .rcs in rcfiles-cwz 21:57:29 might need to just nuke these and get a proper wget command 21:57:31 yes 21:57:36 it's going up a parent dir I think 21:57:38 anyone know what happens if RAM goes to 100%? 21:57:44 http://webzook.net/soup/rcfiles/0.18/ 21:57:53 johnstein: processes start dying 21:58:14 well, you might have swap 21:58:28 then everything will get real slow 21:58:30 yeah I see it getting error.txt from the parent dir 21:58:36 so this needs to be fixed to not do that 21:58:57 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:59:47 ??chilly death 21:59:47 dagger of chilly death[1/1]: +9 dagger of Chilly Death {freeze, rPois rF- rC++ MR+}. Can apply {flash freeze} on hit. 21:59:51 oh I think whoever tweaked this command got confused 21:59:54 I don't understand what the theme of the rPois on this is 22:00:01 they excluded ttyrecs but that's happening because it's going up a parent dir 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:18 that'd be me 22:00:20 --np might be it 22:00:24 what we need, that is 22:00:40 I added -R '*.ttyrec' because I re-enabled the command and it filled the cszo disk :3 22:01:02 i guess something changed from 0.17 on the server side 22:01:07 hrm it has -np 22:01:15 it looks like it is pointing to the wrong URL 22:01:57 bbl 22:01:59 :82/rcfiles instead of /soup/rcfiles 22:03:24 (there is a redirect but that is probably what is confusing wget?) 22:03:51 -!- Naruni has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:04:29 and yeah, CWZ setup seems to change every other version... 22:05:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:05:37 <|amethyst> elliptic: scoring has like three different sets of logfiles I have downloaded from ckr and cwz at different times, and I think there are still some missing games that are no longer in a logfile available over the web 22:05:58 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 22:06:12 <|amethyst> plenty of the games scoring has are no longer available from CWZ itself 22:06:37 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:07:08 elliptic: yeah, ok I can get the wget command to work with the right url 22:07:11 and only fetch the rcs 22:07:33 actually, it's got a few more rcs I don't even see 22:08:05 gammafunk, got any way to know how many connections beem is making? 22:08:07 ah, some users just made rcs, that's why 22:08:16 johnstein: I can look 22:08:31 johnstein: you're not running beem yourself, are you? 22:08:38 because I'm running it on cbro 22:08:47 and, also, if it's causing problems let me know and I'll stop running it 22:08:59 gammafunk, not running it yet, correct 22:09:03 ok good 22:09:07 not sure if it's an issue or not 22:09:17 gammafunk: yeah, so I'd suggest deleting everything in rcfiles-cwz 22:09:31 elliptic: yes I'm going to delete, rerun and update the crontab 22:09:32 but with 100 players, seems like if each one had 1 watcher, I might run out of connections 22:09:37 gammafunk: sounds good 22:09:58 johnstein: well beem can limit its number of watched games thankfully 22:09:59 but I'll just keep an ear out 22:10:01 what value would you suggest 22:10:06 right now it's 50 22:10:07 I'd leave it alone for now 22:10:11 er 25 22:10:12 sorry 22:10:23 sounds reasonable. if you hit the max, let me know 22:10:30 so one autowatch game and 25 subscribers 22:10:37 once we get through the weekend, number of games will drop off pretty fast I think 22:10:46 it's hard for me to check actually, I need to add a !beem status command 22:10:59 then don't worry about it for now. 22:11:17 I think she'll hold together :P 22:11:17 yeah I think it's watching maybe 10 at present 22:11:24 going to max out the VPS to 4GB ram 22:11:26 there are only about 70 actual subscribers on cbro and obviously most aren't active 22:11:32 and cross my fingers 22:15:03 I see the cwz fetch is weirder than I thought, need to really tell wget not to leave that directory 22:15:52 looking at the banners 22:15:59 how do you do ruthless efficiency 3? 22:16:42 no one did it last tournament at all, which is saying a lot considering the ridiculous stuff other banners have you do 22:16:58 <|amethyst> !lg * won xl<19 22:16:59 72. tomatochips the Unseen (L18 FeEn of Dithmenos), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-01-05 11:15:48, with 1631584 points after 50948 turns and 4:48:11. 22:17:03 <|amethyst> !lg * won xl<19 x=cv 22:17:04 72. [cv=0.18-a] tomatochips the Unseen (L18 FeEn of Dithmenos), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-01-05 11:15:48, with 1631584 points after 50948 turns and 4:48:11. 22:17:07 <|amethyst> !lg * won xl<19 s=cv 22:17:08 72 games for * (won xl<19): 16x 0.7, 9x 0.16, 6x 0.12-a, 4x 0.8, 4x 0.6, 4x 0.5, 3x 0.12, 3x 0.6-a, 3x 0.10, 3x 0.7-a, 2x 0.8-a, 2x 0.4, 2x 0.11-a, 2x 0.14-a, 0.9, 0.15-a, 0.18-a, 0.13-a, 0.11, 0.9-a, 0.1, 0.13, 0.14 22:17:47 <|amethyst> !lg * won xl<19 s=cv o=cv 22:17:48 72 games for * (won xl<19): 0.18-a, 9x 0.16, 0.15-a, 0.14, 2x 0.14-a, 0.13, 0.13-a, 3x 0.12, 6x 0.12-a, 0.11, 2x 0.11-a, 3x 0.10, 0.9, 0.9-a, 4x 0.8, 2x 0.8-a, 16x 0.7, 3x 0.7-a, 4x 0.6, 3x 0.6-a, 4x 0.5, 2x 0.4, 0.1 22:18:27 <|amethyst> !lg * won xl<19 !meleebug s=cv o=cv 22:18:28 71 games for * (won xl<19 !meleebug): 0.18-a, 8x 0.16, 0.15-a, 0.14, 2x 0.14-a, 0.13, 0.13-a, 3x 0.12, 6x 0.12-a, 0.11, 2x 0.11-a, 3x 0.10, 0.9, 0.9-a, 4x 0.8, 2x 0.8-a, 16x 0.7, 3x 0.7-a, 4x 0.6, 3x 0.6-a, 4x 0.5, 2x 0.4, 0.1 22:18:42 <|amethyst> huh, wonder what happened in 0.16 22:18:49 <|amethyst> !lg * won xl<19 0.16 s=god 22:18:50 the banner was introduced there 22:18:50 9 games for * (won xl<19 0.16): 3x Dithmenos, 2x Ru, Jiyva, Trog, Vehumet, Nemelex Xobeh 22:18:57 <|amethyst> ah 22:19:02 if there are any wget gurus that can tell me why I need to do this to get the cwz fetch to not go crazy with parent dirs: 22:19:05 wget -r -np -nH --cut-dirs=3 -R '*' -A '*.rc' -X '*' -I soup/rcfiles/0.18 http://webzook.net/soup/rcfiles/ 22:19:11 8 people managed to win it then, although I don't get why no one pulled it off in .18 22:19:12 that works and only gets me the rcs in the dir I want 22:19:13 *.17 22:19:38 but -np in general doesn't seem to work too well and it tries to visit everything parent of soup/rcfiles/0.18 without those -X and -I options 22:20:06 gammafunk: iirc you might have to change the value of --cut-dirs? 22:20:17 I forget exactly how it works 22:20:18 elliptic: I believe that's only when saving 22:20:40 as in it won't make soup/rcfiles/0.18 22:20:42 but just the files 22:20:52 the problem is that it's trying to vist/fetch the parent 22:21:11 but anyhow the command above I gave does at least work 22:21:33 !lg * won xl<19 0.16 s=species 22:21:33 9 games for * (won xl<19 0.16): 4x Felid, 4x Spriggan, Troll 22:21:33 in terms of not visiting the parent dir and only visiting the 0.18 rc dir 22:21:55 !lg * won xl<19 0.16 s=species !meleebug 22:21:56 8 games for * (won xl<19 0.16 !meleebug): 4x Felid, 3x Spriggan, Troll 22:23:20 oh is some one messing around in that cwz dir? 22:23:21 <|amethyst> gammafunk: if you only want 0.18, why not give that as the URL instead of doing -X and -I ? 22:23:31 -!- MarvinPA has left ##crawl-dev 22:23:40 |amethyst: when I tried, it kept going up to the parent rcfiles etc 22:23:48 <|amethyst> err 22:23:52 <|amethyst> http://webzook.net/soup/rcfiles/ 22:23:57 <|amethyst> you told it to go to rcfiles 22:24:02 |amethyst: no I gave it 0.18 22:24:06 sorry if that was unclear 22:24:10 <|amethyst> ah 22:24:14 I gave the url to 0.18 and it still went up 22:24:27 <|amethyst> hm, doesn't for me 22:24:33 I guess someone is doing things in the cwz dir and it's got a ton of rcs right now 22:24:51 <|amethyst> it doesn't seem to have many 22:24:55 <|amethyst> http://webzook.net/soup/rcfiles/0.18/ 22:25:02 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:25:03 it's got 1000 22:25:07 no I mean on dobrazupa 22:25:25 <|amethyst> ah 22:25:38 oh it's the cron 22:25:53 the fetch takes a long time, and it triggere before I disabled it maybe 22:25:57 ha 22:25:58 <|amethyst> this command seems to work for me: 22:26:08 <|amethyst> wget --cut-dirs=3 -r -np -nH -A '*.rc' http://webzook.net/soup/rcfiles/0.18/ 22:26:12 anyway yeah it works for me locally to do the simple thing 22:26:20 well let me just try that in the test dir 22:26:23 maybe I'm going crazy 22:26:26 <|amethyst> gammafunk: aha 22:26:40 <|amethyst> gammafunk: you didn't give the trailing / I bet 22:26:40 gah 22:26:40 really 22:26:42 <|amethyst> gammafunk: so it thought "rcfiles" was the directory 22:26:47 <|amethyst> that it shouldn't go above 22:26:54 that is quite something 22:27:25 yep, that works perfectly, thanks 22:27:43 can I just kill this crontab wget? 22:27:57 it's still going... 22:27:59 hey, gammafunk 22:28:04 am in your stupid vault right now 22:28:09 the which 22:28:11 !lm PleasingFungus 22:28:12 *am I in 22:28:12 6538. [2016-05-07 02:25:57] pleasingfungus the Slicer (L12 HaAK of Lugonu) killed Harold on turn 16539. (Lair:4) 22:28:19 oh that vault is no prob 22:28:23 enchanted lake, right? 22:28:25 there is a dire elephant and a catoblep 22:28:36 Offensive 22:28:41 if you die there I will post a tribute on SA 22:28:45 already teled out 22:28:47 sry 22:28:47 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28:52 .elrank 22:28:54 3756 games for * (br=lair lvl>2 lvl<8 kmap!~entry kmap!~uniq kmap!~special_ kmap!~altar kmap!=): 225x gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake, 152x ice2_lemuel, 149x dpeg_oklob_gauntlet, 139x grunt_megastairs_3, 136x dragon1_lemuel, 134x bobbens_ice_dragon_lair, 124x grunt_megastairs_2, 111x worms_lemuel, 105x forest_paths, 102x grunt_megastairs_4, 94x minmay_lindwurm_lava, 88x beast_lair_carwin_large_4, 75... 22:28:59 it's the Top Lair Vault 22:29:02 *some things 22:29:47 haha 22:29:50 that's because it's bullshit!! 22:29:56 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:30:13 it is a bit spoilery, but I mean you're walking into a narrow path with water with switchback things 22:30:20 you should expect bad stuff ahead 22:30:52 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:31:59 this ghee has 25 int at XL9. no chei 22:32:47 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:33:01 imo, it's unreasonable to expect people to look for intentionality in a roguelike level 22:33:27 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:36:26 -!- noobcanoe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:36:40 I saw "ghee" and thought 22:36:46 man I could go for some indian food 22:36:57 PleasingFungus: welp we have a lot of rune vaults to remove I guess 22:36:58 you got some supersmart clarified butter 22:36:59 I don't suppose anyone would happen to know why my rod of shadows summoned a grey rakshasa 22:37:12 oh, i wonder if that's the ancient monster glyph color bug! 22:37:16 the thing of legends... 22:37:19 gammafunk: oh? 22:37:33 mmmm 22:37:38 ghee 22:37:43 as long as we have the concept of a "vault" that tries to be different from surrounding levels, I think we have to allow said intentionality 22:37:55 *the surrounding level 22:38:18 i finally saw the volcano with the forest in it incidentally 22:38:25 it didn't feel very volcano-y 22:38:35 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 22:38:40 I think it's only maybe because there are no eruptions in that one 22:38:51 there's flame in the lava bits... 22:38:59 gammafunk: I am of course not arguing against intentionality 22:39:04 i'm not even saying we need to change your vault 22:39:12 my bitching about it was purely for comedic effect 22:39:14 but 22:39:16 I would say that 22:39:27 "you're walking into a narrow path with water with switchback things, you should expect bad stuff ahead" 22:39:28 is unreasonable 22:39:39 oh, well I don't really 22:39:41 given the vast majority of narrow switchback paths in crawl contain... nothing 22:39:48 just quirks of level gen 22:40:02 no, I think what I'm saying is that the player enters this thing clearly seeing "this is a different place of some kind" 22:40:14 oh 22:40:16 i wouldn't say that 22:40:26 <|amethyst> maybe it needs to be narrow switchback paths with different colours/tiles 22:40:28 i dunno, a lot of watery switchback places in crawl do have something nasty at the end 22:40:48 yeah I would in fact say that, regarding that particular vault 22:40:51 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4-dev] 22:41:23 ok 22:41:27 good conversation 22:41:36 I didn't say it was over 22:41:49 but yeah thanks for having it 22:42:35 on an unrelated note, can't wait for us to remove ha 22:42:46 I thought we were removing ko 22:42:55 Ha are the stonger ones, yeah 22:43:02 as a preamble, I want to say, I love crawl and I don't currently play other roguelikes. but I think the main http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/ page should be linking to r/dcss/ on reddit, not the roguelike subreddit. it is much harder to keep up with news about other roguelikes, amidst the CIP/YAVP and other sundry DCSS posts that people make 22:43:19 oh 22:43:25 <|amethyst> friendfixit: it used to link to both 22:43:26 it probably should link to /r/dcss, yeah 22:43:39 friendfixit: the main page is actually crawl.develz.org, which does link to that 22:43:49 at least I hope 22:43:52 <|amethyst> the dcss link was removed when /r/dcss shut down and was never added back 22:43:56 -!- eurtek has joined ##crawl-dev 22:44:00 ah, that makes sense! 22:44:34 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:44:37 <|amethyst> in the fronde 22:44:42 gammafunk: i have never actually seen that page, haha. when you click Main Site on the forums, it takes you to /wordpress/ 22:45:04 oh, tavern 22:45:10 Hey, I'm trying to play on cao via putty and it seems that even after resetting my options a bunch of stuff (never usable items, 'this key does nothing' messages) is displaying in ANSI Black on ANSI black. 22:45:21 <|amethyst> the / page is mostly for newbies 22:45:22 indeed that does take you to tavern 22:45:26 er 22:45:28 to wordprss 22:45:32 god damn it my keys 22:45:34 change it, mo 22:45:36 *imo 22:45:38 <_< 22:45:45 I think only the kin can? 22:45:46 <|amethyst> if you're on tavern I suspect you're more interested in /wordpress/ anyway 22:45:47 let me see 22:45:55 |amethyst: hrm, why so? 22:45:55 <|amethyst> but maybe the link should say "blog" rather than "main page" 22:46:02 yeah, the /wordpress/ thing has a lot more useful links 22:46:24 I guess you might have a point there, but wordpress is in this somewhat strange position these days 22:47:01 in that /wordpress/ is trying to function a bit like the cdo home page 22:47:03 Actually wait. am I just not receiving bold stuff at all? 22:47:23 it does have some nice links/content that we could maybe better link to on the home page 22:47:41 That might explain it. All the bold black stuff is showing up as just black. And I guess that explains why my unided stuff is blue instead of bold blue. 22:48:04 <|amethyst> gammafunk: hmm, have tavern link to /wordpress/blog instead maybe? 22:48:13 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it has almost all the links, but actually useful content 22:49:05 Nevermind: fixed it. 22:49:09 <|amethyst> or I guess link to both / and /wordpress/blog 22:49:15 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:49:19 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 22:49:30 |amethyst: Maybe so, I think you tend to favor the wordpress stuff over the cdo home page, I just wish we didn't have a lot of extra content to worry about 22:50:04 <|amethyst> yeah, I wouldn't mind trimming it down so much, but it would be a shame to lose those links 22:50:21 those link sections 5, 6, 7, 8 on wordpress is stuff that should probably go on the CDO home page or in pages from there 22:50:23 <|amethyst> e.g. the list of all the servers if you have geolocation 22:50:50 How to Play Online is one really good page 22:51:14 <|amethyst> History isn't accessible anywhere else 22:51:27 <|amethyst> the thing is 22:51:32 <|amethyst> unless we get rid of wordpress 22:51:39 <|amethyst> or remove links from wordpress 22:51:41 yeah, we don't have a dedicated web page guy and wordpress pages are really easy for anyone on the dev team to make 22:51:44 <|amethyst> we'll have to remove this copy 22:51:49 <|amethyst> err 22:51:57 <|amethyst> we'll have to maintain this copy I mean 22:52:06 <|amethyst> it would be nicer if the front page could be done in wordpress 22:52:20 <|amethyst> I don't know how different themes work 22:52:28 <|amethyst> different themes for different pages 22:52:47 yeah I wonder if we could implement the current cdo homepage mostly through wordpress 22:52:51 would make life easier tbh 22:53:04 instead of me/someone making commits on a dcss_website repo 22:53:06 <|amethyst> but it would be nice if we could just have one copy of the content and link blocks, and just have the homepage include a different subset of those, and use a different theme 22:53:22 <|amethyst> probably need someone with actual wordpress experience 22:53:25 <|amethyst> which isn't me 22:53:32 yep, me neither 22:53:41 maybe I should link tavern to the blog for now if I can 22:53:49 -!- Gorgo is now known as Gorgo-nzo 22:53:51 it's either blog or just the cdo home imo 22:54:59 -!- MaBunny has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:55:00 I don't have access to edit this 22:59:08 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:04:57 !tell chequers The crontab rc wget commands are updated to only fetch rc files and only from the right dir on all servers (trailing slash problem on cwz) 23:04:58 gammafunk: OK, I'll let chequers know. 23:05:27 <|amethyst> gammafunk: hm, not seeing anything int he management interface, I guess that's set from a config file? 23:05:28 random question 23:05:37 how does qw win DDBe without a vampiric weapon 23:05:53 <|amethyst> gammafunk: oh, err 23:06:00 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I was looking at mantis, not tavern 23:06:03 Lightli: not easily, but it has done it 23:06:26 <|amethyst> gammafunk: and mantis already links to /blog 23:06:41 |amethyst: yeah, I don't think I can change that link in tavern 23:06:46 maybe njvack can though 23:07:43 Enchantment list docs gone missing 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10400 by moxian 23:07:51 hah 23:07:53 PleasingFungus: ^ 23:08:21 I guess a lot of people don't know about that lookup 23:09:26 Honestly, I'd rather we had an extensive status explanation on xv screen 23:09:35 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 23:09:38 <|amethyst> xv? 23:09:46 <|amethyst> xv on what, yourself? 23:09:54 oh, right... 23:10:07 clickable links in % screen 23:10:33 I was working on that a month or two ago, and then it turned out that i had no idea how inserting links into crawl ui stuff worked 23:10:38 and my attempts did not work very well 23:10:50 I think I was thinking item descriptions for draining specifically. 23:11:04 ? 23:11:45 when you have a item of draining and you inspect that - the long description says something like "it drains the life from your foes", but that's not really helpful. 23:11:54 And that's a somewhat different issue anyway 23:12:25 how would I go about making zigs show up as Ω via rc? 23:12:34 uh 23:12:39 qw appears to be caught in an infinite loop 23:12:51 are you from the past? 23:12:53 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:12:59 we are all from the past 23:13:20 Well the majority of each of us is! 23:13:20 webtiles spectators are especially from the past though 23:13:57 is anyone watching this 23:13:59 ??warlock's_mirror 23:13:59 Warlock's Mirror[1/1]: A +3 buckler of reflection that allows you to reflect piercing effects and enchantments, among other things. Extra fun with anything that boosts your SH beyond what the buckler gets you! 23:14:08 !learn add warlock's_mirror Kirke evaporates and reforms as a hog! 23:14:08 Warlock's Mirror[2/2]: Kirke evaporates and reforms as a hog! 23:16:55 -!- jerkstoresup has quit [Quit: bye] 23:17:26 (one of two items that can cause that, i think) 23:18:03 -!- dpeg_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:19:03 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:20:07 minqmay just brought up a good point 23:20:13 why does pakellas gift magic potions to mummies 23:20:33 spite 23:20:41 Lightli confirmed literally in the past right now 23:20:45 time cops go home 23:20:55 how far back in the past am I 23:20:59 -!- MagicLamp has quit [] 23:21:22 <|amethyst> about 2 hours 23:21:32 rip 23:21:42 !lm qw x=src 23:21:43 20463. [2016-05-07 03:20:33] [src=cao] qw the Cleaver (L11 GrBe of Trog) killed Harold on turn 11336. (Lair:1) 23:23:31 ??qw 23:23:32 qw[1/6]: A fully automated lua bot written by elliptic, with some code borrowed from parabolic and xw. See "!lg qw won 2" for the first ever completely uninterrupted and unassisted bot win. Git repository: https://github.com/elliptic/qw 23:23:41 !seen elliptic 23:23:41 I last saw elliptic at Sat May 7 03:13:20 2016 UTC (10m 20s ago) saying 'webtiles spectators are especially from the past though' on ##crawl-dev. 23:26:22 !messages 23:26:22 (1/1) gammafunk said (21m 24s ago): The crontab rc wget commands are updated to only fetch rc files and only from the right dir on all servers (trailing slash problem on cwz) 23:26:27 :) 23:28:39 |amethyst: gammafunk: on webpage / wordpress, I always envisioned both existing. Dealing with dynamic content like blog posts without wordpress would be hell 23:28:56 but for static content, it can be moved to a static html page (eg history, how to paly) 23:29:02 <|amethyst> well 23:29:15 <|amethyst> having navigation on those pages is kind of nice 23:29:43 <|amethyst> and static html page can be edited by fewer people, without some work 23:29:46 something I wanted to do, but didn't, was unify navigation between static & wordpress. They should appear to users as "the same site" 23:30:21 <|amethyst> Unless you plan on copy-pasting the navigation stuff from wordpress to the static pages every time it changes 23:30:37 what sort of navigation stuff are we talking about? 23:30:41 <|amethyst> I think the best way to do that is to put the currently static pages into wordpress 23:31:17 <|amethyst> I was thinking the links that are on the right side of the page on wordpress, the bottom on the front page 23:31:31 <|amethyst> but also other stuff like the "you are too berserk!" at the bottom 23:32:19 <|amethyst> or the logo at the top 23:32:25 you probably remember, but a big motivation for me in creating the site was to make the landing impression for new plyers much better 23:32:31 <|amethyst> right 23:32:43 part of that goal was removing information that non-new players find useful, even critical 23:33:10 the idea being you have a few pages that are a new player facade, with hidden navigation bar, etc 23:33:29 Well, if we could have the editing of the pages done through editing html files directly, but through editing wordpress, that'd be pretty ideal 23:33:59 <|amethyst> I'm pretty sure you can hide parts of the interface for certain categories of pages in wordpress 23:34:06 yeah, I bet it can be done 23:34:22 yeah, I think there's differentiation between "blog view" and "standalone page view" 23:35:59 anyway, I'm for the idea in general. I'm just really unenthused about working with wordpress, so I can't imagine doing it myself :P 23:36:05 <|amethyst> but also e.g. downloads doesn't necessarily need the stripped down UI 23:36:51 i think that's a really important page for new players, it's probably the first or second page they ever see 23:37:08 <|amethyst> is the goal to keep new players away from the rest of the site? 23:37:33 yes, until they download the binary :) 23:38:32 <|amethyst> also, if it's so important, shouldn't the link be bigger? 23:38:47 <|amethyst> from the front page to download 23:39:20 compared to "play online"? perhaps, I wanted to encourage people to play online though 23:39:20 <|amethyst> it seems currently like a "oh, if you want to do this nonstandard thing, here's a link" since it's small plain text in the middle of a bunch of colorful images 23:39:28 that was the intention 23:40:34 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:40:44 we could un-deemphasise it a little bit though :) 23:41:40 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:41:42 <|amethyst> I guess I don't see how having links to screenshots and the blog and mantis etc would hurt the download page 23:41:56 <|amethyst> I see the argument for keeping those off the front page 23:42:33 <|amethyst> my concern is that there's this huge amount of content 23:42:51 <|amethyst> that newbies will never see unless they happen to click on one of the links under "Latest News" 23:43:51 -!- MaBunny has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:44:08 <|amethyst> but you definitely can't link to all those things from the landing page, not and have it look nice 23:44:27 are links ugly? 23:44:40 sorta 23:44:50 * friendfixit blows minds with philosophies 23:44:54 <|amethyst> large amounts of content on a landing page is ugly 23:45:26 I hate landing pages. at least in the traditional sense of "2 clicks to get to the good stuff" 23:45:50 <|amethyst> friendfixit: well, if you're interested in playing crawl it's usually one click 23:46:03 that is true 23:46:28 <|amethyst> the current front page is intended to make it easy and attractive for people who find the site to play and/or download crawl 23:46:54 <|amethyst> which was definitely not the case with https://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/ 23:46:54 or just for people who really like clicking big green buttons 23:54:31 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 23:54:31 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 23:54:31 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 23:54:41 I am a Funk 23:54:44 -!- lnt has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:54:47 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it's our ship name 23:55:00 <|amethyst> gammafunk: do you want to read my fic? 23:55:20 Crawly McCrawlface 23:55:40 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:55:43 i would like to do some more user tests with the current homepage 23:55:54 I'm pretty curious about if the live tiles look clickable 23:56:15 I basically just tested with a bunch of potential users 23:56:20 <|amethyst> well, not just look clickable 23:56:35 <|amethyst> but also 'what do you expect will happen if you click' 23:56:51 <|amethyst> 'would you click one of these? what if you were bored?' 23:57:16 I'm hoping people see it like twitch 23:57:49 i feel their stream display is enough of a trope amongst gamers 23:58:05 -!- Pachimari has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:58:15 well we need emotes in tiles chat, clearly 23:59:33 <|amethyst> btw, webtiles says "1 spectators" 23:59:55 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-53-ge6e6435 (34)