00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:03:31 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-0-gfba2bb3 (34) 00:05:44 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 00:05:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:06:37 -!- ManMan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:08:14 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:12:37 well im gonna sleep on this... I think maybe the way to initially implement this will be via toggleable menu to display inventory items/floor items 00:13:22 !source acquire.cc:1461 00:13:23 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/acquire.cc#l1461 00:13:49 is acquirement supposed to make blowguns? because I'm pretty sure it cannot 00:18:53 -!- debo__ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:49 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:25:37 just above that i see a line claiming that loudness and inaccuracy are the only two truly bad pieces of jewelry 00:25:56 which i'd say is no longer accurate given the changes to =tele 00:26:27 even if there are still a few degenerate possible uses for it 00:30:30 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: also, the cases above that (// Make sure plus is >= 1.) should probably include AMU_REFLECTION 00:33:31 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:34:00 -!- debo__ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:34:40 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:36:18 <|amethyst> minmay: ah, I see 00:36:37 <|amethyst> minmay: you don't get blowguns because of this loop in _acquirement_weapon_subtype: 00:36:43 <|amethyst> for (int i = SK_FIRST_WEAPON; i <= SK_LAST_WEAPON; i++) 00:36:53 <|amethyst> SK_THROWING isn't in that range 00:37:19 <|amethyst> (SK_UNARMED_COMBAT is already special cased) 00:40:10 iirc the reason is that blowguns tend to be really boring, even the artifact ones 00:40:10 elliptic: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:40:27 <|amethyst> well 00:40:37 <|amethyst> the line minmay quoted would only make that worse 00:40:56 <|amethyst> if it weren't for the fact that we pick by skill so never pick WPN_BLOWGUN in the first place 00:41:11 <|amethyst> so IMO that line should be removed anyway 00:41:27 <|amethyst> either it does nothing because we don't make blowguns, or it makes the blowguns worse by not trying to randartify them 00:41:35 yeah, that line looks pretty bad 00:42:08 <|amethyst> elliptic: what do you think about what ProzacElf mentioned 00:42:21 -!- unmovable has quit [] 00:42:26 <|amethyst> elliptic: giving =tele the same extra-high randart chance as =loudness and "inacc 00:42:50 =tele was changed to be unevokable? 00:43:11 <|amethyst> yeah 00:43:15 <|amethyst> %git 118c1289 00:43:15 07MarvinPA02 * 0.18-a0-1106-g118c128: Remove evokable teleportation 10(3 months ago, 13 files, 12+ 41-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/118c1289e603 00:43:27 that seems reasonable, yes 00:45:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:50:29 -!- MadCoyote is now known as FunkyBomb 00:55:09 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:55:30 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:55:54 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:57:37 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:59:51 <|amethyst> hm 01:00:02 -!- debo__ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:06 <|amethyst> I guess there's no reason to push the blowgun one to 0.18 01:00:47 -!- Alatreon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:01:13 -!- Alatreon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:02:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-1-ga72035d: Remove a pointless line (minmay) 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a72035def23c 01:02:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-2-g57af7d0: Improve acquired =tele (ProzacElf) 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/57af7d07965f 01:02:22 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18-b1-1-gcfa3e8e: Improve acquired =tele (ProzacElf) 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cfa3e8e64123 01:03:53 -!- ChongLi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:04:55 -!- debo__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:17:05 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 01:17:09 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:18:47 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-2-g57af7d0 (34) 01:21:08 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:21:10 -!- Kalir has quit [Client Quit] 01:21:11 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:27:06 |amethyst: don't thank me, thank the guy who was complaining in ##crawl that okawaru wouldn't give him a blowgun 01:29:26 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest78484 01:29:36 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:29:45 <|amethyst> minmay: well, I didn't fix their problem :) 01:30:29 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:31:07 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:31:36 -!- IceBlind has quit [] 01:31:59 right, but I never would have checked whether acquirement can give blowguns otherwise 01:32:17 -!- Idolo has quit [] 01:33:43 -!- mibe_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:34:20 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:35:01 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:46:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:46:43 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:46:44 The build has errored. (stone_soup-0.18 - cfa3e8e #5331 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/126016785 01:46:45 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:52:03 why can acquirement give you plain loudness/inacc/tele at all 01:52:27 shouldn't they be considered useless items 01:52:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:55:38 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-2-g57af7d0 01:56:15 <|amethyst> minmay: that check happens later 01:56:59 <|amethyst> so in the 10% of the cases where you don't get a randart, it should pick a new item 01:58:09 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:59:13 -!- ursan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:59:33 I...suppose that works 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01:07 <|amethyst> also, Xom acquirement 02:03:07 -!- Guest78484 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:03 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 02:08:30 PleasingFungus: did you have a blog post ready to post? i'm just generating blank scoring pages now 02:12:07 PleasingFungus: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/ 02:12:17 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:13:23 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:15:29 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:15:56 imo the blog posts should be written in character as crawl uniques 02:19:25 chequers: ready to go, then? 02:21:26 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/0-18-release-tournament 02:21:34 ready2go 02:21:41 minmay: example pls 02:21:52 PleasingFungus: did you want to announce the 0.18 beta too? 02:22:13 I could, I guess 02:22:16 also, I think the tourney link should be to this page: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/ 02:23:00 is it it is...? 02:23:06 er 02:23:08 *it is 02:23:22 is the 0.18 beta playable anywhere? 02:23:36 CPO 02:23:36 ! 02:24:12 you could just say "become available on all online servers over the next few days" 02:24:27 ??cpo 02:24:27 cpo[1/1]: DCSS server in Sydney. Run by chequers. https://crawl.project357.org 02:24:36 url 02:24:58 is this DrunkFungus 02:25:27 er 02:25:40 tired, maybe 02:26:02 Edited the post. 02:26:42 nice. if you still have nitpick energy, s/ones’/years/ 02:27:18 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:27:21 Reasonable! 02:27:41 minmay: example pls 02:27:55 THE 0.18 TOURNAMENT WILL BEGIN IN JUST OVER A WEEK! 02:28:18 :) needs more PUNY HUMANS 02:28:48 Hold still, I'll release the tournament slowly... 02:29:26 auto-playing wavs of dragons roaring 02:29:40 better, MIDI 02:30:14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3FWPlo53pc 02:30:46 wow 02:30:47 this video 02:31:05 lmao the comments 02:31:08 this CHANNEL 02:31:16 this is incredible 02:31:36 the "no offense" comment is gold 02:31:51 ya 02:32:53 I don't know why but that reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smycGG2Dsa8 02:33:24 the terrible animations help 02:33:27 the good news is that for some reason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXp8Th41rBs showed up in 'related videos' 02:33:33 so now i'm just watching that again 02:33:35 a classic... 02:33:58 minmay: your video is distressing to me 02:36:04 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:36:50 -!- Zibudo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:43:39 -!- Shadou has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:46:43 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:46:44 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:51:11 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-2-g57af7d0 02:52:44 apparently GH doesn't eat when hungry any more 02:53:01 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:56:46 -!- bgiannan has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 02:57:37 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 02:59:17 -!- infrashortfoo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:29 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:00:55 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 03:01:55 hm nvm 03:02:32 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:07:19 -!- WhiteShark has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:08:11 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:12:51 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-2-g57af7d0 (34) 03:17:45 !tell gammafunk I'll try to get 0.18 up on CXC tomorrow 03:17:45 Medar: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 03:17:53 thanks! 03:18:54 PleasingFungus: ahem! 03:18:54 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 03:19:00 Medar: *thanks* 03:19:10 gammafunk: yes? frog in your throat? 03:19:28 wow, i just remembered my old frog race concept 03:19:33 I just think I should be the one to thank Medar 03:19:33 i'd totally forgotten about that 03:20:18 We all think things. 03:20:52 I've been cutting back on that 03:21:03 chequers: I'm not sure I agree with 100% of games getting ecu altars 03:21:20 I could see increasing it I guess, but I don't think the choices are 100% and 10% necessarilly 03:21:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:21:55 We don't have 100% of games featuring challenge of each portal type etc 03:25:25 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 03:25:46 having, similarly, not thought about it at all, i'm in a similar place as gammafunk 03:25:51 it's not 10% or 100% 03:28:44 -!- bgiannan has quit [Client Quit] 03:28:54 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 03:29:08 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:31:35 gammafunk: i get that, to me it was always a challenge conduct addition to the game 03:31:57 anyway, I do think requiring 3 wins at 10% chance is a bit mean 03:32:39 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:32:50 hey, look at harvest III! 03:33:02 :p 03:33:08 no, i agree that ecu altars can be more common. 03:33:13 where's the 10% chance set now? 03:34:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:35:52 uh, it's complicated 03:36:34 !vault ecumenical_altar_1 03:36:34 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/altar.des#l403 03:36:45 the 10% after all (2) of the vaults specifies the overall chance 03:37:17 clearly, we'd need more vaults before we made ecus more common. 03:37:19 :p 03:38:14 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:38:25 chequers: one thing about that 10% chance is that it's a TIII banner, so the chance is fairly low, but you'll really need to take that altar when you see it if you want that TIII 03:39:01 it's also not so low that it'd be truly hard to get 3 wins; I wouldn't consider this T3 to be very difficult as it requires no special skill, more just living with whatever happens 03:39:19 do we really want a banner that either requires considerably startscumming for the first nine floors or whatever, or an average of thirty wins? 03:39:20 well it's not that *hard* to clear d:3 as mifi 03:39:26 it's just, ugh 03:39:28 er, *considderable 03:39:31 fuck 03:39:32 i need to go to bed 03:39:36 what pf said 03:40:10 it would be cool if people played normally and then piced ecu altar when they saw it, but if you can say one thing about the players who'd go for this banner tier, you can say they won't do that :P 03:40:25 i feel like that's what the lower tiers of the banner are for, ya 03:40:26 no chequers 03:40:31 casuals 03:40:33 and normies 03:40:35 that's not how people do banners 03:40:40 ps reeee 03:40:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]] 03:40:48 they don't go "I want Pak III and only Pak III" 03:40:53 if that's what they were thinking, they would 03:41:22 they care about getting their cheevos, so they're just going to go on and play the game getting something else 03:41:28 like a win, for instance, for points 03:41:34 well, I'm not super opposed to the tier 3 idea, and I like the first two tiers 03:41:44 i just have to figure out how the heck you code cheevos 03:41:47 banners aren't really isolated from each other unless the conduct specifically does it 03:42:15 uh, yeah I can look over the code tomorrow 03:42:23 elliptic would remember faster than I 03:42:56 it's not super hard though, there are rule functions and you'll just code one up for pak 03:43:02 let me see if I can remember really quick 03:44:29 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:44:55 swapping between scoreboard and tourney code is doing my head in 03:45:46 I believe outline.py is responsible for assigning the achievement 03:46:30 we'd hook from act_on_milestone to pick up ecu worship events and ???????? 03:47:42 well 03:48:32 actually, I think you need to hook on god.maxpiety and check a) this is the first god b) there was an ecu.altar event earlier in the game (tier 1) 03:52:09 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 03:54:30 chequers: yeah, I can see various examples of banners but you might want to ask elliptic about which functions to use 03:56:46 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:57:08 -!- Athaboros has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:09:13 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:09:53 -!- Porost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:15:59 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:16:30 -!- Xjs|moonshine has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:28:53 -!- errant_nrx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:31:35 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 04:36:12 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:37:59 -!- socks_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:59:43 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:07 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest87833 05:00:40 -!- namelastname112 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:02:48 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:03:52 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:09:52 -!- debo__ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:11:02 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:14:34 -!- debo__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:22:45 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:37:54 -!- Surgo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:39:39 -!- Doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 05:44:13 !tell ontoclasm zxc and i are wondering if you can modify the newlogo to mention the page is the dc:ss scoreboard, so we don't need text in the navbar saying this 05:44:14 chequers: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 05:50:02 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:52:35 -!- Surgo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:59:24 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:13:02 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 06:14:38 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:27:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:27:39 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 06:53:02 -!- Xiberia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:55:08 -!- Guest87833 is now known as debo 06:55:49 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:59:44 -!- svendre has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:04 anyone compiled crawl in Visual Studio 2015? 37 build errors, I'm down to the last 11... 07:02:21 apparently gcc is less picky about things like variable length arrays 07:07:21 -!- Kaishin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:09:39 wow, the .sln works? 07:09:51 i think you're attempting something not done in years 07:10:13 that would simplify windows builds 07:11:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:12:21 sort of 07:12:35 it works better with a bunch of work into it, I'm still going.. 07:12:44 trying to be careful not to introduce any memory leaks 07:13:47 like this: //png_bytep row_pointers[h]; 07:14:00 png_bytep * row_pointers = new png_bytep[h]; 07:15:23 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:19:17 the MSYS1.0 just does not work, MSYS2.0 does, and I got that to compile yesterday... but it takes too long to run the make command in-between changes, I want to be able to modify one file and have it be more smart about what it recompiles and then links (plus the debugging is nice in the ide) 07:20:30 I think MSYS1.0 maybe could still work but it was choking on the sdl2 contrib, probably some pathing error, since 2.0 worked I just didn't bother much with it past a point 07:22:23 -!- anonus has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 07:23:32 the other change it needs several places isn't too bad, where min() max() are called it needs #include added, I don't know if that would do anything to the non windows build - but those files (mostly in tiles) work fine in MSVC now 07:24:46 -!- aurelian_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:25:41 -!- debo__ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:06 -!- debo__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:30:27 -!- Lasty1 is now known as Lasty 07:32:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:33:59 -!- Kat_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:35:26 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:41:14 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:46:38 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:50:47 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:08:33 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:09:33 -!- chequers has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:14:00 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:15:01 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:15:08 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:16:23 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 08:18:00 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 08:19:18 ??plan 08:19:19 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:release_plans 08:22:11 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 08:22:23 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:28:05 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:29:54 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:32:49 -!- Dracunos has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:33:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:35:03 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:38:33 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:41:14 -!- chequers has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:51:12 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 08:59:58 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04:48 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 09:12:22 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:13:32 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:22:43 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:26:37 -!- Dracunos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:31:06 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:32:56 !lg . 0.18 09:32:56 No games for chequers (0.18). 09:33:01 !lg * 0.18 09:33:01 No games for * (0.18). 09:33:31 ~kw 0.18 09:33:33 !kw 0.18 09:33:34 Built-in: 0.18 => cv=0.18 09:33:41 !lg . s=cv 09:33:41 1640 games for chequers: 524x 0.16-a, 518x 0.18-a, 470x 0.17-a, 58x 0.17, 45x 0.16, 22x 0.15, 0.13, 0.15-a, 0.19-a 09:35:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:35:48 !lm x=cv,vlong 09:35:49 12037. [2016-04-27 13:34:07] [cv=0.18-a;vlong=0.18-b1] chequers the Ducker (L1 DsGl) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 09:36:11 is that correct? 09:36:21 i thought beta games counted as part of cv=0.18 09:37:34 They do not 09:37:55 Any version qualifier is grouped under the "-a" bucket 09:38:54 ah 09:39:20 apparently op can get Deformed Body mutation, which seems silly 09:40:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:40:08 oh, from jiyva 09:41:02 which apparently has an aux attack built in, if this player is to be trusted 09:42:09 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:46:33 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:48:09 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:48:57 -!- Athaboros has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:52:25 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:54:37 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 09:55:38 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:49 -!- rockit_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:59:18 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:07 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:00:56 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:03:47 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:16:09 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:18:10 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:19:21 -!- svendre has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:22:58 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:23:08 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:43 -!- AndChat-590889 is now known as Dracunos 10:43:20 -!- ChanServ has quit [*.net *.split] 10:44:33 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:29 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:55:30 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:59:04 -!- NotKat is now known as Kat_ 10:59:29 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:23 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:02 -!- Xenobreeder_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:42 -!- Xenobreeder_ has quit [Client Quit] 11:09:46 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:09:48 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:10:28 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:15:01 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:35 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:19:05 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:19:48 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:25:33 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:28:26 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:34:43 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:08 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:40:34 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:41:28 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:28 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:50:03 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:54:44 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:57:13 -!- Frisk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:02 -!- Frisk_ is now known as Reverie_ 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:06:06 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:43 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:10:07 -!- neon|ugh has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:15:22 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:16:48 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:47 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]] 12:18:30 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:20:07 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:03 -!- tupper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:24:47 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:25:37 pseudopods 12:26:01 jiyva's version of deformed 12:26:21 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:09 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:33:42 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:15 -!- Annabella has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:46:02 !tell gammafunk will fix later today 12:46:03 TZer0: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 12:48:07 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:49:46 Tile 'talos' for part 'BODY' not found in 'dc-player.txt'. 12:49:56 someone didnt finish up their cleanup.... 12:50:17 lol 12:50:21 console players, smdh 12:52:04 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:32 hrm, except I don't get that error 12:53:37 how are you triggering that? 12:55:22 yeah, i removed the tile and the relevant line in dc-player.txt so that seems like it shouldn't happen? 12:55:31 well 12:55:36 you didn't remove the relevant line in art-data.txt 12:55:37 oh, unless the TILE: entry in art-data.txt needs to be removed too 12:55:38 thoguh 12:55:41 yeah 12:55:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:55:54 but I can't reproduce the error 12:55:55 so i'm baffled 12:56:11 -!- Reverie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:56:38 i guess previous unrand removals haven't touched tiles, also i realise now i definitely forgot to check for vaults 12:56:59 (but i'm pretty sure no vault places talos) 12:58:13 you also missed one of the tiles 12:58:36 there are two, a player-doll tile and an item tile 12:59:01 i think i'm just gonna revert the tile removal for now, but i'm kind of baffled by the whole thing 12:59:04 i don't understand why it works 12:59:14 learn add tiles 12:59:35 I just pulled and rebuilt my checkout 12:59:59 with what build options? 13:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:29 make FORCE_CC=clang FORCE_CXX=clang++ LTO=y 13:00:38 (ubuntu linux, clang 3.6 just because) 13:00:48 well, mint but that's ubuntu lts 13:01:14 hrm. so not actually a tiles build 13:01:16 interesting 13:01:26 right 13:03:07 and "vaultgrep talos" returns nothing fwiw. script isn't 100% quite yet but generally pretty good about such things 13:03:33 hm, i still can't reproduce with any build settings 13:03:41 which is baffling, since it really shouldn't work at all 13:04:12 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:04:16 ohh 13:04:20 that error doesn't actually stop the build 13:04:23 it's just a warning 13:04:28 exactly 13:04:39 that's why i missed it 13:04:40 just an extra line spit out at the start of the build; it continues 13:04:53 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-3-g95c6029: Re-add the Talos playerdoll tile 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/95c60293cb88 13:05:34 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18-b1-2-gd0c887e: Re-add the Talos playerdoll tile 10(5 minutes ago, 3 files, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d0c887e60116 13:07:01 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-2-g57af7d0 (34) 13:07:46 -!- Kat_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:07:53 seems like every time some item or unique is removed, someone misses something and we get messages like that at the start of the build until it's noticed and fixed 13:09:23 obviously, just stop removing things 13:09:31 though i can't think of other examples of this off the top of my head 13:10:25 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:10:58 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 13:18:09 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:10 -!- ManMan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:19:53 -!- Dracunos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:21:45 -!- Rast has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:27:00 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:20 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:54 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38:58 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:39:50 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 13:41:00 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:42:38 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:45:22 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:48:33 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:42 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:33 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:49:40 -!- Dracunos7 is now known as Dracunos 13:51:07 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:53:19 -!- NopeKat is now known as NotKat 13:54:24 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:54:43 -!- svendre has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:31 ohhh finally, I got linker issues and library issues cleared up with libpng and zlib in studio 2015.. that was ugly 13:55:38 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:55:50 what a relief 13:56:29 I had to rebuild everything from scratch pretty much 13:57:52 now tilegen is 100% compiled, just have to fix code erros in crawl now... but more fun at least 13:59:06 -!- NotKat is now known as Kat_ 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02:57 gj, svendre 14:03:13 hey guys, is it already possible to play a german translated version of crawl? 14:03:21 thanks :) been working at this for hours, just had to vent 14:03:42 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:04:03 reminds me of the fun i had doing mingw32 compiles of crawl in linux ;) venting helps :D 14:05:20 isn't that backwards, why would you do that? 14:05:42 to have it properly automated 14:05:56 I see 14:06:16 yeah oh by the way, I noticed while doing libpng, that some of the older versions have some serious vulnerabilities 14:06:18 like the current daily trunk builds for windows 14:06:42 ahh yeah, I was wondering who did that 14:07:06 I'm setting this up mainly for the development environment (I like the ide and dropdowns for objects, etc.) 14:07:12 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:08:02 most of the errors are because it's asking for something more strict, or doesn't like certain datatype conversions, I would guess the stuff to get it to compile here would work backwards in gcc 14:08:16 maybe they could be merged back 14:08:32 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:09:07 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:09:15 -!- Napkin_ is now known as Napkin 14:15:13 -!- kajarainbow has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:16:14 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:16 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:17:12 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:41 -!- Kat_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:21:43 -!- glaas has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 14:26:50 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:28:40 Stable (0.18) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-b1-2-gd0c887e 14:29:36 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:30:54 -!- Lantell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:31:06 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:33 soonmide (L9 MfGl) (D:5) 14:32:33 Nekros (L2 DEWz) (D:1) 14:32:33 Webtiles server stopped. 14:32:34 Geomchi (L8 NaTm) (D:5) 14:32:34 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 14:32:35 colpogo (L4 MiBe) (D:2) 14:32:44 Yendor (L6 DEIE) (D:4) 14:32:44 volde25 (L8 DsBe) (D:5) 14:32:44 kay3 (L7 DrAr) (D:5) 14:32:44 Kiel97 (L12 DsGl) (Lair:2) 14:32:47 Steforg (L14 DsNe) (Orc:1) 14:32:49 shitmuffin (L16 MiBe) (D:15) 14:32:53 Leszczynek (L13 NaFi) (Lair:3) 14:32:56 MirrMurr (L18 SpEn) (Elf:3) 14:32:58 xvga (L27 DsGl) (Hell) 14:33:00 riffraff (L27 MiFi) (Depths:4) 14:33:03 MrRokkomies (L24 OgHu) (Crypt:1) 14:33:05 princess (L12 GrCj) (Lair:1) 14:33:08 Etesian (L27 GrFi) (Pan) 14:33:10 P0WERM0DE (L27 DsCj) (Zig:22) 14:33:23 Webtiles server started. 14:33:28 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:37:08 looks like we have 0.18 on cue and lld 14:37:08 gammafunk: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:37:20 gammafunk: :) 14:37:25 TZer0: thanks! 14:37:28 np np 14:40:31 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:32 The build passed. (stone_soup-0.18 - d0c887e #5334 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/126162699 14:40:32 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:44:17 actual 0.18, or a release candidate? 14:44:27 i didn't think we were done with it yet 14:45:17 -!- rarewave has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 14:45:35 amalloy: the branch, which is currently only tagged as a release candidate or beta 14:45:47 the final release will be tagged 0.18.0 14:46:02 !lg * cv=0.18 x=cv 14:46:02 No games for * (cv=0.18). 14:46:10 !lg * x=cv 14:46:12 5524154. [cv=0.18-a] tapzookman the Severer (L10 MiFi of Okawaru), slain by a komodo dragon on D:10 on 2016-04-27 18:45:41, with 6442 points after 9047 turns and 0:20:17. 14:47:05 anyone know how I can resolve a bunch of errors in cinttypes? lines 22-24 specifically are generating stuff like: _abs64 is not a member of global namespace, or _strtoi64 ... it's also saying symbol cannot be used in a using-declaration, are those supposed to be using directives instead? 14:47:49 !lg beem lld 14:47:50 No games for beem (lld). 14:47:58 oh not in sequell yet 14:48:07 so never mind 14:49:25 svendre: i can't help you with this particular issue, but i can say with confidence that it will be easier for someone else to help you if you gist the actual error message rather than paraphrasing it 14:52:54 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:18 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 14:59:40 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04:03 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:23 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:07:48 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:10:57 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:12:04 thanks amalloy, but.. just figured it out I think, it's not a code issue but a compiler issue, it's trying to compile .cc files as c instead of c++ so it's starting to error on core stuff not even part of the crawl code... so, nevermind that :D 15:12:32 -!- jerkstoresup has quit [] 15:12:42 I thought I was losing my mind 15:17:04 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:17:50 apparently the only way to change that not on a file by file basis in windows is to hack the registry - hilarious. 15:18:45 it wants ".cpp" 15:20:20 -!- Denapoli has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:29:10 -!- Kiel97 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:30:46 -!- soonmide has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:35:35 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:35:48 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:42:06 Pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-b1-2-gd0c887e (34) 15:49:39 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:49:48 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:50:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:50:59 -!- Shinino has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:54:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 15:55:10 woah.. "Weapon types no longer have distinct strength weights." 15:55:25 how does that work with dex chars with short blades? 15:55:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 15:57:52 they finally have more of a reason to raise Str :) 15:58:00 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 15:58:24 that works, yeah? 15:58:36 either with daggers, the most dex-wegithed, this changes it from 50% dex/50% str to 100% str 15:58:49 so it's not so huge a change even with poor str 15:58:51 it's not a very big difference either way 15:58:54 yeah 15:59:03 and rapiers? 15:59:26 i mean.. sabre! 15:59:39 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:59:55 -!- humeral has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:59:58 don't you mean cutlasses 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:18 i'm not keeping up .. ;) 16:00:31 0.19 todo: rename cutlasses again just to keep everyone on their toes 16:00:39 also redo nemelex again 16:00:42 crawl dev tasks 16:00:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 16:01:07 make nemelex gift randomly-named short blades 16:01:44 !!! 16:06:10 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07:58 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:05 You see here the +5 dirk "Gladius" {estoc}. 16:09:47 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Client Quit] 16:11:21 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:13:05 i think cdo is ready for the 0.18 16:13:14 +release 16:13:48 -!- Dracunos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:15:09 sweet! 16:20:47 You see here the +12 dirk "Diggler" 16:26:30 this laptop has great specs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ1Z41623 16:26:55 -!- DDFi has quit [Client Quit] 16:27:22 whose idea was it to put death scarabs in spider 16:27:47 -!- spriseris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:28:52 also draining gaze STILL doesn't interrupt autotravel 16:29:28 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]] 16:29:31 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:29:47 I posted that in the wrong channel, oops 16:29:51 still good 16:30:23 minmay: floodkiller 16:31:04 %git d98ddf 16:31:04 07Floodkiller02 {gammafunk} * 0.18-a0-1119-gd98ddfb: Add a new undead-themed Spider rune vault. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 64+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d98ddfb2d592 16:31:07 seriously can ghost moths just be made visible if draining gaze is never going to be fixed 16:31:16 it's been years 16:31:51 would that actually be a difficult fix for some reason 16:32:08 i wouldn't think so but the bug has been present ever since ghost moths were introduced 16:32:10 nothing is as bad as "damnation" though 16:33:00 and it's quite silly that you have to add explore and travel interrupts to your rc in order to use o/G in spider 16:33:16 unless you want to randomly have 0 mp and an adjacent ghost moth 16:33:17 I haven't noticed that problem for whatever reason 16:33:25 probably because I first notice ghost moths when I'm already fighting things? 16:33:31 that does sound pretty bad though 16:33:50 I mean, they're not dangerous monsters, so it's not going to actually kill you, but it's still annoying 16:34:29 it's dangerous to have no MP and a ghost moth nearby if you run into other nasties 16:35:24 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:39:56 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:39 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:51:27 ghost moths do dish out an uncomfortable amount of poison if you're busy trying to deal with a couple of escorpions too 16:51:39 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:52:20 being in melee with two emperor scorpions and a ghost moth is the problem there 16:52:39 haha 16:52:41 amalloy: don't worry I have rPois 16:53:00 "deal with" did not mean "melee all at once" 16:53:09 .splatratio ProzacElf 16:53:09 % of xl17 chars killed : 61/76x ProzacElf [80.26%] 16:53:11 ahem 16:53:32 yeah, i'm terrible 16:53:34 what of it? =p 16:53:40 fite m3 16:53:40 !lg . spider 16:53:41 4. yollama the Brawler (L18 CeTm of Ashenzari), slain by a spark wasp on Spider:3 (nicolae_spider_webs_and_nodes) on 2016-03-27 14:56:07, with 191881 points after 39225 turns and 5:24:14. 16:53:49 !lg . spider gozag 16:53:50 1. yollama the Basher (L17 TeSu of Gozag), slain by an emperor scorpion on Spider:4 (spider_rune_water) on 2015-12-12 09:31:09, with 127010 points after 34841 turns and 4:10:33. 16:54:03 !lg . spider 16:54:03 -!- Gretell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:54:04 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:54:04 9. gammafunk the Severer (L14 MiBe of Trog), mangled by a ghost moth on Spider:4 (spider_rune_water) on 2016-04-10 10:32:39, with 53778 points after 7067 turns and 0:54:47. 16:54:18 gammafunk: actually L14 is too low-level to be doing N:4 16:54:19 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:21 !lg . spider 16:54:22 7. ProzacElf the Carver (L17 VpSk of Ashenzari), blown up by an orb spider on Spider:1 on 2016-02-17 19:55:32, with 157651 points after 42565 turns and 2:16:00. 16:54:23 that's what you're doing wrong 16:54:25 hahaha 16:54:41 amalloy: funny thing is I might have actually been meleeing a ghost moth and 2 emperor scorps there 16:54:57 like now that I think about it, I've definitely done that (with at least one zerked) 16:55:00 my gozag spider death was caused by moths and emperor scorptions 16:55:04 but not ghost moths 16:55:06 i'm really bad at dodging oods 16:55:11 ProzacElf: chei reasons 16:55:13 ProzacElf: hex wands 16:55:24 poly, confuse, para 16:55:28 they don't have good mr 16:55:32 and there's always invis 16:55:33 i know that 16:55:37 who is managing the 0.18 release this time? 16:55:53 Napkin: PleasingFungus, although I'm doing the win/deb builds 16:55:58 and coordinating servers admins 16:56:02 and chequers is doing the tourney 16:56:05 -!- Kaishin_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:56:09 ok, cool 16:56:20 but if your evo skill is 5 or less, it can still take an uncomfortable number of wand uses 16:56:23 cdo has 0.18 now, milestone files should be in place, too 16:56:33 ProzacElf: I wouldn't really say it's uncomfortable at all vs orb spiders 16:56:36 a few shots 16:56:54 if it fails and they orb, do it near a wall 16:56:57 so you can duck back 16:57:17 Napkin: thanks, we have a few servers with it now, so I'll tell snark 16:57:25 well, i haven't died to one in over 2 month 16:57:26 s 16:57:37 and only 7 out of however painfully many games i've played 16:57:46 Napkin: I don't know if you care to think about this, but one thing we'd like is to maybe do the debs and windows compiles for release on cdo 16:58:01 thanks, gammafunk 16:58:04 In case you're looking for more work :) 16:58:23 i have no idea about the debs, unfortunately 16:58:38 windows compiles i can do 16:58:38 ProzacElf: Yeah, I don't mean to use it as an emergency strat, just a general one for chars that don't have good ranged options 16:58:52 Napkin: we need both zips and the package, the 32-bit buidls 16:58:54 *builds 16:59:10 -!- rarewave has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:59:12 but it has to be the final 0.18.0 version, not the current beta; that 0.18.0 isn't tagged yet 16:59:19 yeah, i remember the build scripts for that 16:59:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 16:59:24 no problem with that 16:59:41 Napkin: so I could maybe run a command on cdo when the release is tagged? or how would that work? 16:59:43 but someone else usually updates the debian repository on cdo - so i don't know how to do that 17:00:00 Yeah I current do it and it's not hard, just only partially automated 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:07 the deb building, I mean 17:00:19 Would be nice to automate, but we can't have everything 17:00:39 And if/when I leave I'm not sure anyone will know how to do it who's active, but we can always ask the community 17:00:42 well, needs a new git branch in a separate directory and some cherry-picking and replacing version, gammafunk 17:01:16 maybe you could take notes about the steps you do currently? 17:01:29 Napkin: yeah, I have a full guide for it in the repo, for deb making 17:01:37 i'll do the same and then we'd have that covered 17:01:38 in docs/develop iirc 17:01:40 nice 17:02:12 Previously i've build the win packages also on my machine, that part is fine, but anything about doing it on cdo I wouldn't know how to do, so would be great if you could document 17:02:27 will do 17:02:43 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:02:58 generally i just take the patches for building the daily trunk builds and adjust them for a release, like filenames 17:03:34 I'm curious as to why you'd have to cherry-pick anything. does that refer to the crawl repo or another repo that manages the build? 17:03:51 Since once we tag 0.18, that should have everything needed to build crawl as a stable version 17:04:02 no, it doesn't 17:04:24 Maybe I'll just wait to read your guide then :) 17:04:28 well, it has most, but not everything 17:04:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:04:32 Probably will be clear 17:05:10 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 17:05:49 the repos on cdo in ~/source/ are clones of github (or rather the local mirror) with wrapper scripts on top as commits 17:05:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 17:06:13 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:06:14 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 17:06:35 and those scripts i cherry-pick over the final 0.18 checkout and adjust them 17:07:20 oh ok 17:07:57 because in the past i had to make more adjustments to the crawl makefile 17:08:07 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:08:45 and i bundles those changes and the wrapper scripts as commits.. instead of separately 17:10:00 -!- jerkstore has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:11:43 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:12:04 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:12:04 also, why would you leave, gammafunk?! :D 17:12:07 anyone curious as to my findings (things not working in MSVC)? I'm stuck on a few things - I have a notion of what is wrong but no specific error message to point to that makes sense 17:12:20 I could maybe use a point in the right direction 17:12:52 definitely worth to document, svendre! 17:13:25 okay earlier I was advised to use gist, but this is kind of more like chat - it's not well formed enough to be a document 17:14:29 There's something really unholy going on surrounding macros and snprintf, somehow pertaining to something called C99 (a standard) 17:14:40 -!- mamgar has quit [Client Quit] 17:14:49 well, considering you don't have a specific error message, gist does seem to make sense to show the whole output of the compiling process 17:15:55 sounds like you rather need someone more familiar with MSVC behavior, huh? 17:16:03 there's also something bad happening surrounding DEF_BITFIELD 17:16:10 yeah 17:16:36 I think it's these macros, there's something broken going between g++ and MSVC surrounding them 17:17:19 <|amethyst> what's going on with the DEF_BITFIELD macros? 17:17:20 haven't been there for a while.. but is there maybe a tavern subforum for programming questions? tavern seems to be visited nicely 17:17:39 have you searched the developer wiki? 17:17:44 hey |amethyst 17:18:04 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:05 it's complaining about no suitable constructor exists to convert from "int" to "enum_bitfield what line gives that error? 17:19:26 I'll try to get the list of errors from the compile copied somewhere, though I'm not sure what gist is 17:19:37 gist.github.com, or any paste site 17:19:37 764 externs.h 17:19:38 <|amethyst> are you familiar with pastebin? 17:19:54 yeah that's easy 17:20:06 <|amethyst> hmm 17:20:08 I like dpaste these days, now that sprunge is gone 17:20:47 <|amethyst> it's as though it's not defining the operator| 17:20:56 I'll throw it in there in a minute, it's frustrating I got all of tilesgen working after fighting with the libraries a long time, but stuck on crawl was about 40 errors got it down to 30 lol 17:21:03 but many are the same thing repeated 17:21:27 gammafunk: sprunge is alive i think, it does go down every now and then though yeah 17:21:49 dpaste actually has syntax support, so I've been using that 17:21:58 <|amethyst> what version of MSVC is this? 17:22:26 so does sprunge apparently! i've never used it but "add ? to resulting url for line numbers and syntax highlighting" 17:23:08 http://pastebin.com/ysTMQdji 17:23:27 that's from the output window, looks a bit different from the "error list" window 17:25:05 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:19 this is from a copy paste of the error list window: http://pastebin.com/2pTqWWZB 17:25:26 minmay: i keep trying and failing to fix that draining gaze bug 17:25:31 i can hvae another look at it 17:25:35 it's very odd 17:26:27 this is from code I forked, I don't know a day or so ago 17:27:40 <|amethyst> hm 17:27:49 <|amethyst> Error (active) expected a type specifier crawl c:\Users\Yzzyx\Documents\GitHub\crawl\crawl-ref\source\enum.h 2484 17:28:29 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:28:50 <|amethyst> that is a DEF_BITFIELD() line 17:29:13 <|amethyst> but it's not clear to me exactly which line of the DEF_BITFIELD expansion it's talking about 17:29:20 <|amethyst> might be useful to see the preprocessor output 17:29:23 <|amethyst> but I have to go now 17:31:04 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 17:31:49 I believe they may be 764,768,771,774 17:33:25 ok, if/when you want to have a closer look just let me know and I'll round up the data better or send you the files even - I'm probably going to sleep pretty soon though 17:34:45 it's a block of 4 statements like these: constexpr mon_spell_slot_flags MON_SPELL_TYPE_MASK = MON_SPELL_NATURAL | MON_SPELL_MAGICAL | MON_SPELL_WIZARD | MON_SPELL_PRIEST; 17:38:07 -!- Zargon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:38:16 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:38:24 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:39:46 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:40:24 -!- Blade- has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:43:09 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:45:24 i wonder if changing `mon_spell_slot_flags` to `auto` would help 17:45:36 probably not 17:47:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:51:17 Visual Studio 2015 Community 17:54:17 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 17:54:19 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:48 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest24904 17:57:52 -!- Guest24904 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:58:18 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:00 |amethyst: As %git 17:59:02 doh 17:59:04 %git 17:59:04 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-3-g95c6029: Re-add the Talos playerdoll tile 10(5 hours ago, 3 files, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/95c60293cb88 17:59:10 %git stone_soup-0.18 17:59:10 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-b1-2-gd0c887e: Re-add the Talos playerdoll tile 10(5 hours ago, 3 files, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d0c887e60116 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:46 Can I criticize options_guide.txt here or better to do it on ##crawl? 18:01:48 Yermak: no, this is good channel for that 18:02:09 Yermak: and you can submit a pull request/patch to give updates 18:02:31 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-3-g95c6029 (34) 18:03:12 Paragraph 3-a: we see this line first: autopickup_exceptions ^= don't-pickup-regex, 18:03:13 And then an exmaple is given: autopickup_exceptions += Does it imply that ^= and += are the same? 18:03:54 Then this 18:03:57 You can use multiple autopickup_exceptions lines. Some examples: autopickup_exceptions += inaccuracy, scrolls? of paper autopickup_exceptions += immolation, curse (armour|weapon) autopickup_exceptions += uselessness, noise, torment 18:04:06 ??rcfile 18:04:06 rcfile[1/4]: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/options_guide.txt 18:04:09 It doesn't use neither '>' nor '<' 18:04:37 Yermak: the meaning of ^ and + are covered in 0-d 18:05:00 since ^ adds to beginning and + adds to end, sometimes you'd want to use one or the other 18:05:38 Ugh, my bad, sorry. 18:05:52 What about my second note? 18:06:16 i think it mentions that > is assumed if you don't specify either way? 18:06:22 yeah, that's what the guide says 18:06:33 I honestly had not known of > and < 18:07:18 Hrm, I wonder if that mention of ban_pickup is necessary 18:07:21 < used to be used in the defaults, i think > is mostly an ancient legacy thing 18:07:38 Yeah, maybe to support replacing ban_pickup? 18:07:47 I guess not really 18:08:38 oh or maybe having neither mean > is for that reason 18:08:38 Darn, I feel very bad. Sorry for this. 18:08:38 don't worry, crawl options are complicated and weird :P 18:08:40 Yermak: no problem at all, rc options are often unclear even with the guide 18:11:06 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:12:32 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:12:32 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:15:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:15:38 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:03 -!- Dracunos_ has quit [Client Quit] 18:16:26 -!- Dracunos has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:17:02 -!- Shasbat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:17:17 -!- Shadou has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:18:12 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:19:00 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25:13 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:06 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:47 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:10 !lg * cv=0.18-a s=src 18:29:10 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:29:11 386414 games for * (cv=0.18-a): 123662x cwz, 74213x cszo, 58208x cao, 46331x cbro, 37604x cxc, 25171x cue, 12762x cpo, 4609x cdo, 3838x lld, 16x cjr 18:29:28 !lg . day s=vlong 18:29:29 4 games for chequers (day): 2x 0.18-b1-1-gfba2bb3, 0.19-a0-2-g57af7d0, 0.18-b1 18:29:47 !lg * day vlong~~0.18-b1 s=src 18:29:48 63 games for * (day vlong~~0.18-b1): 63x cpo 18:30:00 :( 18:30:17 it's not in sequell yet chequers 18:30:21 but we do have several servers with it up 18:30:27 however lld has one small wrinkle 18:30:32 maybe dplusplus got back to me 18:30:45 miek_: try registering now 18:30:47 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest30253 18:30:47 well he'll respond soon 18:30:57 but presently his 0.18 milestones are a symlink to trunk 18:31:00 milestones 18:31:33 oops 18:31:49 no word from hong yet 18:31:51 chequers: seems to have worked 18:31:54 what was the problem? 18:31:55 medar will have cxc soon 18:32:07 I think nap has done cdo, let me see 18:32:58 yeah cdo has 0.18, so that's cdo, cpo, cue, soon on cxc, lld, cbro (maybe that's already up) 18:33:07 just waiting to hear about cjr and cwz 18:33:27 oh and cao 18:33:55 maybe johnstein would be willing to do cao and cbro 18:34:17 er willing to do cao, of course he'd do cbro 18:35:36 -!- soonmide has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:36:55 -!- Guest30253 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:36:59 soon(tm) 18:40:02 no worries, we're still more than a week before the tournament 18:40:14 Medar: http://i.imgur.com/eKJ3cnw.jpg 18:40:32 how did you find a photo of me? 18:40:37 ikr 18:45:46 -!- Zibudo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:46:16 I am here to link stuff for the tourney 18:46:16 Zibudo: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 18:46:20 !messages 18:46:20 (1/2) gammafunk said (4d 16h 44m 13s ago): I think you're just saying we should figure that out when we can, then yeah definitely we'll make cjr work with new scoring or we'll have to figure out CAO scoring at some point soon 18:46:25 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:46:34 !messages 18:46:35 (1/1) gammafunk said (22h 33m 24s ago): 0.18 stable branch is ready, can you add this version to cjr? We need the meta dir and the rcfiles dir to be able to hook cjr up to the tournament 18:47:21 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:49:03 -!- wheals__ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:04 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:49:21 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:50:03 miek_: permissions issues due to disk resize 18:50:24 @??-version 18:50:24 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.19-a0-2-g57af7d0 18:50:26 oh 18:50:59 |amethyst: doprazupa is out of disk space 18:51:27 gammafunk: i am setting up .18 right now 18:51:27 |amethyst: ah, the cwz rcfiles dir is 31g 18:51:34 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:51:47 just delete everyone's rc files. what could go wrong 18:51:47 woah, 31GB? 18:51:58 gammafunk: i bet you it's lua persistent storage 18:52:02 by like, two bot accounts 18:52:03 hrm 18:52:11 you might be right, yeah 18:52:18 apparently cwz has ttyrecs in the rcfiles dir 18:52:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:52:29 i retract my bet 18:52:40 Zibudo: cool, thanks. Also reminder about updating the dgl menus to not refer to cszo and 0.17 as beta when you can 18:52:57 see, cwz doesn't support ttyrecs! 18:53:03 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:53:10 the hardest part about working on this server is that the default editor is nano 18:53:12 gammafunk: yup, do you know where the log file for console is located by chance? 18:53:25 Zibudo: well, you mean sshd log file? 18:53:26 nano: the editor everyone can agree not to use 18:53:36 Zibudo: or dgl log? 18:53:45 gammafunk: the sshd one 18:53:46 dgl log I'm not sure if it's enabled and where it is 18:53:51 Zibudo: usuall /var/log 18:54:06 gammafunk: oh okay 18:55:06 Zibudo: you might see entries in /var/log/auth.log 18:55:46 gammafunk: the particular error is when they try to spectate game using console, then it just crashes, so i'll check that log 18:56:05 ah, yeah my guess is you'd not see any error message there 18:56:18 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:56:27 Zibudo: I think you can maybe recreate by running dgl locally though 18:56:54 gammafunk: I'll try that once .18 is up 18:57:00 is cjr going live for tourney? 18:57:03 yes 18:57:11 ok 18:57:25 Zibudo: on cdo I can ssh in and get shell by default, and I run crawl to get the dgl interface to play 18:57:43 and /usr/local/bin/crawl looks like the dgl wrapper thingie 18:59:20 -!- Beargit has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:59:20 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:01:04 -!- Shadou has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:01:39 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:04 -!- wheals__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:06:17 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 19:07:03 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:23 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 19:10:12 gammafunk: which file paths do you need for .18 19:10:55 Zibudo: well, it should like like your 0.17, with its own directory for 0.18 and the same files 19:11:00 let me check your current paths 19:11:35 gammafunk: rc is https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rcfiles/ 19:11:48 Zibudo: another thing you might consider is adding a link to the meta url to your webtiles welcome template 19:11:53 what people see on the webtiles home page 19:12:01 I guess it's a set of urls 19:12:31 Zibudo: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/meta/ should have a 0.18 dir 19:12:36 and the same set of corresponding files 19:12:41 as seen for 0.17 19:12:45 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 19:12:52 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:12:57 most notably logfile an milestones, but there are others specific to e.g. sprint 19:12:57 -!- Shadou has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:13:08 -!- Shadou_ is now known as Shadou 19:13:17 there's even zotdef ones but those you don't need since zotdef is no longer in crawl 19:13:35 applies to 0.17 as well, since it was removed that version? 19:13:36 ??zotdef 19:13:37 zot defense[1/4]: http://sites.google.com/site/crawlvariations/ Turned Crawl into a tower defense game; coded by Chapayev. Play at akrasiac and have fun! Now play at develz instead for an updated version! Mercifully removed in 0.16. 19:13:43 ah removed in 0.16 19:14:24 I'm not sure what uses those scores symlinks, those are just symlinks to the logfile iirc 19:14:28 gammafunk: just sym links to /home/crawl/DGL/crawl-master/crawl-0.18/saves/logfile 19:15:35 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:16:10 Zibudo: I think so, I see that's only mentioned in passing in the dgl guide 19:16:34 gammafunk: check it now? 19:16:49 looks good 19:16:50 I did a test game 19:17:01 the sprint ones should show when someone does a game of that 19:17:05 let me try right quikc 19:17:51 oh not in dgl yet let me do webtiles 19:18:14 https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks:8081/#lobby 19:18:25 when is the tourney? 19:18:59 yeah, there they go 19:19:02 ??tournament 19:19:02 tournament[1/5]: The 0.18 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC May 6 to 20:00 UTC May 22. Rules: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/ Leaderboard: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/overview.html (not done yet!) 19:19:18 ah alright, ill definitely have everything ready for that then 19:19:34 gammafunk: still need CAO scoring? 19:19:35 yep, just let me know when you're happy and I'll add cjr to the website 19:19:48 Yeah, we have instructions for that, but need to get someone with root to do it 19:19:49 or will you just scrape from those links 19:19:55 sorry? 19:20:00 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:20:01 do i need to edit anything? 19:20:11 you mean for tournament? those are seperate scripts from cao 19:20:15 cao is only official scoring 19:20:28 and no once we add you to cao scoring, it will fetch your logfile/milestone 19:20:45 so if those are set up, you're good 19:20:45 alright, but for tourney will I have to add scripts just so i know? 19:21:00 no, tourney also needs rcfiles dir available, but you've set that up already 19:21:10 rcfiles is so people can use clans on your server 19:21:17 and for games/milestones again we use logfile/milestone file 19:21:27 chequers is running that and will add cjr to the tourney scripts 19:21:41 okay cool, I'll work my end then, just let me know if I need to do anything. You can also email me at admin@jorgrun.rocks 19:21:44 Basically you are good to go wrt stuff we need, save those dgl tweaks 19:21:47 ok great 19:21:53 is that an official email you want people to use? 19:21:55 ??cjr 19:21:56 cjr[1/1]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo. SSH username jorgrun, password rocks. Currently games are visible on Sequell, but CAO scoring is a work in progress. 19:21:59 yea 19:22:05 let me add that then 19:22:08 cool thanks 19:22:15 I will add it to the site soon too 19:22:18 cool 19:22:32 I want to make a monster that sometimes has a spellbook, sometimes doesn't, but all the creatures in mon-util.cc don't seem to have "blank" spots in their list of possible spellbooks. should I use nullptr, MST_NO_SPELLS, or is it not possible to do what I'm trying to do? 19:22:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:22:43 !learn edit cjr s/Zibudo/Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks)/ 19:22:43 cjr[1/1]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks). SSH username jorgrun, password rocks. Currently games are visible on Sequell, but CAO scoring is a work in progress. 19:23:36 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:24:03 maybe an alternative, hacky way to do it would be to make a spellbook that has nothing in it 19:26:37 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:26:44 friendfixit: look at the use of CUSTOM_SPELLS_KEY 19:27:06 e.g. for mutant beasts, which sometimes have spells (abilities) and sometimes not 19:27:27 !source mon-util.cc:5361 19:27:27 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-util.cc#l5361 19:29:24 very cool, thank you! 19:29:58 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:30:01 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:30:32 -!- Shadou has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:30:57 спасибо :) 19:32:47 til the wyrmbane enchant thing works on polymorphed things and dragon zombies/skels 19:32:47 pls nurf 19:32:47 lol 19:32:47 wait, god 19:32:47 is it tech to kill a dragon 19:32:47 then reanimate it 19:32:47 to kill it again 19:32:47 sure 19:32:47 nooo 19:32:47 no reason why not 19:32:47 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:32:50 what about simulacra/spectral dragons? 19:32:59 you could farm one dragon quite a few times that way 19:33:32 deng... 19:33:37 I think those might not work since no xp? 19:33:46 I'd imagine the code path only triggers that way 19:33:50 why do you think they're no xp? 19:33:50 other wise use a summon 19:33:57 no I mean if you made them 19:34:02 maybe amalloy wasn't thinking that 19:34:13 i didn't know player-made simulacs/spectrals were 0 xp 19:34:27 sure, they're made friendly 19:34:35 -!- Athaboros has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:34:42 wait, then wouldn't reanimating a dragon never work? 19:34:42 which means you don't get xp for killing them when they become hostile 19:34:50 possibly so, yeah 19:35:18 hrm, wonder about reaping brand though, but then you lose the initial enchant from the kill 19:35:26 ??reaping 19:35:26 reaping[1/1]: A weapon brand that turns everything you kill into friendly zombies if a corpse is generated. Appears only on the unrandarts Zonguldrok and Botono. Considered evil by the good gods. 19:35:32 oh those are always friendly 19:35:40 i think they used to be hostile in some context 19:35:44 or randomly or something 19:35:46 I want to say so, yeah 19:35:52 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:36:01 wait, whoa, botono ref 19:36:04 ??zonguldrok 19:36:05 zonguldrok[1/1]: You either want {sword of zonguldrok} or {zonguldrok's shrine}. 19:36:10 ??sword of zonguldrok 19:36:10 sword of zonguldrok[1/3]: +9 double sword {reap, *Curse} (kills with the sword reanimate as friendly undead). All corpses not killed by this sword will immediately reanimate as hostile undead that do not provide XP. Hope you have some permafood (or IOOD or disintegrate)! Even wielding this is bad if you worship one of the good gods. 19:36:18 hm 19:36:24 ah, not killed by sord 19:36:35 gammafunk: it works on simulacra you raise 19:36:35 oh, there you go I guess 19:36:38 god 19:36:40 that's... 19:36:49 i just tried it 19:36:52 amalloy: meaning you get the wymbane enchant increase? 19:36:53 ...reaping used to generate on missiles 19:36:56 yes 19:37:08 I would say that's a bug 19:37:08 went from 9 to 10 ganking my gold dragon sim 19:37:11 agree 19:37:14 ya 19:37:28 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:37:38 you could get a bow of reaping, arrows of reaping, both... 19:37:40 wow 19:37:45 darts of reaping?? 19:38:57 yes! 19:38:57 we could have them again if we replace tomahwaks with darts 19:38:57 because tomahawks of reaping? LOL 19:38:57 s/tomahwaks/tomahawks/ 19:39:00 maybe if, like, reaping just tagged guys with a 'will turn into a zombie' status, like a shitty version of enslave soul 19:39:34 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:39:50 Yeah that weird exception for things not killed by the sword is silly 19:40:11 everything about it is silly 19:40:39 +9 isn't silly, that's cool and hip 19:43:03 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:44:21 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:48:51 -!- Napkin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:55 -!- Napkin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:38 -!- Lantell has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:50:50 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:52:43 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:54:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:56:58 -!- Shinino_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:58:33 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:00:04 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:33 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:01:18 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest8650 20:02:03 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:03:57 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:05:54 -!- Guest8650 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:07:03 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:12:23 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:28:36 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:31:17 -!- KNBrisson has quit [Client Quit] 20:31:34 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:36:32 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:01 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:44:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:50:04 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:51:00 -!- Gobbo is now known as GoblinBomb 20:57:53 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:25 -!- ursan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:01:46 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:04:14 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:04:44 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:59 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:13:39 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:15:42 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:22:41 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 21:23:40 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: "In his house at R'lyeh, Dank Cthulhu lies Memeing"] 21:28:12 -!- wheals_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:42:56 gammafunk: earlier you mentioned if I was willing to do cao (and cbro!). in reference to updating to 0.18? 21:43:26 johnstein: yeah 21:43:32 also maybe cao scoring 21:43:35 gammafunk: I don't have access to cao. I suppose that's an easy hurdle 21:43:40 you can ask rax for access, yeah 21:43:50 |amethyst gave some instructions for updating scoring for cjr 21:44:07 maybe that also needs to be done for 0.18 in general? 21:44:08 but I don't know the crawl architecture setup. is it basically the cszo setup? if so it should be easy enough 21:44:17 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest29348 21:44:20 I believe it is 21:44:43 I can talk to rax. did amethyst previously handle that? 21:44:58 also. what is the hurdle for cao scoring? 21:45:10 I haven't been following that convo 21:45:33 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:46:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:48:16 -!- Guest29348 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:48:45 -!- KNBrisson has quit [Client Quit] 21:49:51 -!- eb has quit [] 21:51:26 cjr added to tourney 21:52:53 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:53:44 cheaters did you create a new set of scripts? or just use the old ones? 21:54:16 thanks chequers! 21:54:59 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:56:48 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:59:50 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:52 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:04:43 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:04:48 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:05:23 johnstein: let me find you what |amethyst said about it 22:06:04 johnstein: <|amethyst> /home/rax/scoring/sources.yml tail -f ../scoring.log and kill python scoresd.py when it says "Finished batch" then ./scoring.py to restart the daemon (it might not *need* to run as root, but file permissions mean it probably does at the moment) 22:06:44 the sources.yml needs editing I think, and the tail is to watch for when that message appears 22:07:09 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:21 you kill the python scoresd.py process and restart it with ./scoring.py (and I think run it in the background) 22:10:06 ??rax 22:10:06 rax[1/2]: Barracks, cmon, do I have to tell you guys everything? 22:10:10 ??rax[2 22:10:10 rax[2/2]: don't !tell; just email rachel at akrasiac dot org 22:10:20 johnstein: you might need to email her 22:10:36 sounds kinda similar to the tourney scripts (that I run for mefightclub players) 22:13:28 gammafunk: oh ok. cool. I did !tell 22:13:37 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:16:18 &dump ultraviolent 22:16:18 No milestones for ultraviolent. 22:16:21 &dump ultraviolent4 22:16:22 https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/Ultraviolent4/Ultraviolent4.txt 22:16:31 Out of bounds monster: JaminCrawler's ghost at (0, 0), midx = 13 22:16:31 Monster JaminCrawler's ghost in rock_wall at (0, 0) 22:16:34 do you want this save? 22:16:58 Well it needs a bug report 22:17:24 Otherwise there's no way to keep track of it 22:17:57 ??mantis 22:17:57 mantis[1/2]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 22:17:58 I think that bug has happened in the past, but I'm not sure 22:18:06 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:18:40 !bug 10291 22:18:40 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10291 22:18:51 bugs are announced in channel btw 22:19:07 not CPO since it has no bot! and isn't that crashes only? 22:19:15 cpo? 22:19:19 mantis isn't on cpo 22:19:30 oh, I thought you meant crash announcement 22:19:46 yeah, crash announces are only for servers with irc bots 22:19:56 but mantis bugs get announced through chei 22:21:17 that bug seems to happen a couple times a week, I think? 22:28:12 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:35:43 i found a previous instance so just updated it to say 'still happening' 22:37:32 my ears are burning 22:38:02 !seen |amethyst 22:38:02 I last saw |amethyst at Wed Apr 27 21:29:23 2016 UTC (5h 8m 39s ago) saying 'but I have to go now' on ##crawl-dev. 22:38:28 !tell |amethyst do you object to me migrating saves to CAO on a one-off basis? 22:38:28 bh: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 22:38:45 bh: there's talk that cszo will come back with a new admin 22:38:49 who may be johnstein 22:40:14 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:47 gammafunk: +1 22:41:13 is there a process to migrate saves safely? ie not bork sequell? 22:41:28 bh: might mean that migrating any saves is a bad idea unless you can make sure those cszo games are properly "ended" 22:42:05 tbh I'm not sure how that would work with logfile/milestones but I suppose the entries could be moved? 22:42:21 your whole logging pipeline is chewing gum :) 22:42:40 it wouldn't surprise me if a butterfly farting in atlantis broke the whole thing 22:43:07 maybe they don't even need moved. just means half the game milestones would be src cszo and the other half cao 22:43:43 <|amethyst> well 22:43:43 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:43:46 if it's coming back, there's no reason to move 22:43:47 <|amethyst> those would be two different games 22:43:53 <|amethyst> !lg * x=gid 22:43:55 5525371. [game_key=tapzookman:cwz:20160328024112S] tapzookman the Ruffian (L3 GhMo), slain by Sigmund (a +0 scythe) on D:2 on 2016-04-28 02:42:36, with 52 points after 579 turns and 0:01:23. 22:43:59 ah 22:44:02 <|amethyst> since the game id contains the server 22:44:10 good point 22:45:58 <|amethyst> I'm wary of doing that, but assuming you migrate it to no older a version of crawl, probably the worst that happens is probably a game that looks weird in sequell and in scoring 22:46:11 <|amethyst> s/is probably/is/ 22:46:55 <|amethyst> assuming the account names match exactly 22:47:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:48:43 Wearing gloves as a ghoul suggests negating claws damage. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10380 by moxian 22:49:02 <|amethyst> wha? 22:49:14 <|amethyst> You get claws damage while wearing gloves? 22:49:21 <|amethyst> as a ghoul 22:50:27 <|amethyst> I don't like the suggestion either 22:50:36 <|amethyst> of greying out the mutation just because you're wearing gloves 22:51:25 <|amethyst> but I guess wearing gloves isn't all that different from changing form 22:51:32 <|amethyst> You get claws damage while wearing gloves? 22:51:34 you don't 22:51:52 <|amethyst> I am wondering what this person read on Wiki to make them think that 22:51:54 solution: claws 1 blocks gloves 22:53:23 -!- moxian_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:53:32 maybe print a message when you put gloves on notifying you of the loss of claw damage? 22:54:19 Re: I am wondering what this person read on Wiki to make them think that -- http://crawl.chaosforge.org/UC - says that glves negate claws mutation, but doesn't say anything about ghouls. 22:54:22 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 22:54:44 <|amethyst> ... 22:54:49 <|amethyst> ghouls have the claws mutation 22:54:59 <|amethyst> If you click on "Claws" it even says that 22:55:06 <|amethyst> Species notes: Ghouls and felids start with rank 1, and trolls start with rank 3. Octopodes cannot gain claws. 22:55:11 I was mostly surprised by someone wearing gloves and training UC in https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=19767 - and tried to look up if that was a wise thing to do 22:55:44 <|amethyst> ??claws 22:55:44 claws[1/1]: +2 unarmed damage per level and increases {punch} damage. Level 3 chops off hydra heads. The effects of claws are eliminated if you're wearing gloves, though at claws 3 you can't use the slot anyways. 22:56:03 <|amethyst> ??punch 22:56:03 offhand punch[1/2]: Does 5 + (unarmed skill / 2) damage. Got +6 bonus for blade hands prior to 0.16. Gets a +(claws level)d3 bonus for claws. Disabled in forms other than lich, shadow, statue and tree prior to 0.17. 22:56:52 <|amethyst> trading +2 damage on the base attack and 1d3 damage on aux punches for 3 AC 22:56:57 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 22:57:54 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 22:59:18 Okay, so if graying out the mutation seems like a bad idea, and explicitly pointing this out in gloves description seems superfluous (who would think that gloves do NOT interfere with claws?), then the issue can be closed, I guess 22:59:23 Apologies for the noise. 22:59:38 wow, TIL gloves affect UC 22:59:44 come on, wolverine wears gloves 22:59:50 talk about a secret tech 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:39 change the tile so they're fingerless gloves, obviously 23:00:54 and then make them not reduce claw damage 23:01:12 not like anything else in crawl is realistic, just change the logic 23:01:51 <|amethyst> I would suggest removing aux attacks, but that doesn't help here since they are claws and not hooves 23:02:18 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:03:15 -!- unpaidbill has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:04:47 -!- n1 has left ##crawl-dev 23:05:04 -!- Zibudo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:05:57 -!- Zibudo has joined ##crawl-dev 23:06:15 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:09:14 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 23:09:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:14:19 New branch created: pull/257 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/257 23:14:19 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/257 * 0.19-a0-4-gabcdce5: Let claws/hooves work through gloves/boots. 10(13 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/abcdce5d0b9d 23:16:16 <|amethyst> chequers: so now we'd need to communicate to the player that talons don't work but hooves do? 23:16:47 <|amethyst> we were in that situation a few years ago 23:17:05 <|amethyst> and very few people realised it 23:17:09 <|amethyst> %git 18de428 23:17:09 07|amethyst02 * 0.15-a0-2033-g18de428: Make boots block the effects of hooves. 10(1 year, 10 months ago, 3 files, 23+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/18de428f80c0 23:17:37 I believe adding a line to the basic description of gloves/hooves would help. 23:18:55 -!- Shadou has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:23:07 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-4-ga5c5ac4: Mention that gloves cover claws, boots hooves and talons (#10380) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a5c5ac4b25d8 23:23:27 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Disconnected by services] 23:23:28 -!- GauHelldragon2 is now known as GauHelldragon 23:23:47 <|amethyst> I make no apologies for the grammar in my commit title 23:28:09 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:28:30 the anti-Oxford comma? 23:29:02 <|amethyst> mostly the ellipsis of the verb in the second conjunct 23:29:33 <|amethyst> adding another comma would change the meaning 23:29:44 |amethyst: ah, i missed that talons had a similar problem 23:30:04 oh, right 23:30:10 reading too fast >.> 23:30:48 <|amethyst> I wrote it, looked at it and though "damn that's hard to parse" 23:30:55 <|amethyst> s/though/&t/ 23:31:00 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:03 <|amethyst> then committed it anyway :) 23:31:35 <|amethyst> maybe I should get a job as a headline writer for a newspaper 23:31:51 <|amethyst> "British Left Waffles on Falkland Islands" 23:32:25 * geekosaur would have tossed an "and" after the comma 23:32:53 <|amethyst> I would have, but syntax highlighting was already complaining about the length :) 23:33:25 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/257 * 0.19-a0-4-g1e56ee3: Let claws/hooves/talons work through gloves/boots. 10(14 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1e56ee3d8c65 23:33:46 <|amethyst> Claws glove-covered say pundits 23:34:55 <|amethyst> Ghoul: I'm no glove lover 23:35:29 <|amethyst> Scientists prove ghoul claws are evolved from SHARK FINS! 23:39:48 :O 23:40:49 chequers: That commit is said to be 14 hours old... Is that a great coincidence, or is your a bit off? 23:40:54 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:40:59 *your clock 23:42:00 time between local apply and push to github, usually 23:42:30 did it locally, pushed to their gh clone, asked here, made PR from clone 23:42:45 -!- Beargit has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:43:11 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:43:17 <|amethyst> geekosaur: except it was moxian who brought it up 23:43:34 -!- Zibudo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:43:35 -!- moxian_ is now known as moxian 23:43:46 <|amethyst> hence it would be a great coincidence if chequers happened to be thinking of exactly the same thing 14 hours ago 23:44:17 <|amethyst> since I presume from moxian's question that they did not communicate about it more than about an hour ago 23:44:32 correct. 23:45:00 <|amethyst> I suspect some kind of time zone shenanigans, though I'm not sure exactly what kind of shenanigans 23:45:04 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest97273 23:45:10 <|amethyst> Date: Wed Apr 27 23:45:00 2016 +1000 23:45:36 <|amethyst> it happens to be 23:45:00 in US eastern time right now 23:46:08 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:46:34 <|amethyst> hm, I guess that was 30 minutes ago though 23:46:48 non-work hour shenanigans :) 23:47:15 <|amethyst> Maybe you should instead just not make commits during work hours :) 23:47:39 <|amethyst> "#257 opened 37 minutes ago by alexjurkiewicz" 23:48:01 <|amethyst> "I'm not writing code on work time, just submitting pull requests" 23:48:23 thanks dad 23:48:42 * |amethyst quickly rewrites commit history so as not to look like a hypocrite 23:48:57 -!- Guest97273 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:49:06 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:49:15 <|amethyst> "Uh, guys, I needed to rebase 0.10, hope you don't mind" 23:50:08 <|amethyst> s/guys/folks/ 23:50:31 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:51:09 i'm in a slack community with a bot saying things like that 23:51:35 "'Guys'? I think you mean 'peeps|folks|everyone|all'" 23:51:45 pretty clever 23:51:51 <|amethyst> Every time someone mentions a "slack community" I think they're talking about Church of the Subgenius 23:58:37 |amethyst I have a similar reaction for Discord servers. makes me think of crawl 23:59:58 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-4-ga5c5ac4 (34)