00:00:02 CanOfWorms: regret-index is subtly hinting at a desire for new tzizi tiles. 00:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:15 I like the shadow fiend tiles though :v 00:00:26 actually I've had a bad cough for two weeks but also that yes 00:00:38 yes, that is the one part I regret 00:01:05 hmm maybe I can leverage the shadow fiend tile into a new exec tile 00:01:16 i like the exec tiles though :v 00:01:25 !!! 00:01:27 hahaha 00:01:35 they're so cool!!! 00:01:49 a skull windmill 00:01:50 also one of your abominations seemed kind of hard to pick out from the floor 00:01:53 let me find it 00:02:20 if it was a windmill it'd surely have the blades at equal points of elevation 00:02:37 ...abominations are in rltiles/mon/demons/.... 00:02:44 I read the tile as a tower with blades jutting out of each segment (???) 00:02:50 I didn't say it was a certified windmill 00:03:02 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/mon/demons/abomination_large.png i think it was this one 00:03:04 demons are notoriously poor carpenters, this is now crawl canon 00:03:04 let me see 00:03:18 ah, miracle of undeath 00:03:33 hm, it looks fine now 00:03:38 possibly a branch issue 00:03:50 "hard to pick out from the floor" is a difficult criteria when the main use is in... abyss... 00:03:50 yeah it depends on the branch 00:04:01 especially the abyss, it has a lot of colourful ground 00:04:08 haha 00:04:17 can't remember where it was and can't trivially repro so w/e 00:04:42 I think the hydrabomination is sometimes also invisible 00:12:07 god, late d has a nearly 50% veto rate 00:12:10 that seems high 00:12:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:12:24 -!- flappity_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:12:28 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 00:12:34 hm 00:12:40 the david_vaults_* series doesn't seem to actually place 00:12:53 !vault david_vaults_1 00:12:53 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/vaults.des#l54 00:13:14 do they need to be tagged transparent or something? 00:13:24 i was considering suggesting to chequers that he make some more vaults entries, but we seem to have plenty, in theory.... 00:13:34 klehe. 00:14:12 oh, i misread this. i guess they do place sometimes 00:14:59 relative to post-lair-ness they should be fine to tag as transparent, but they seem unusual to single out as difficult to place relative to most vaults? 00:15:57 why does it matter that they're post-lair? 00:15:58 it's lair branches that need more branch entry vaults, anyway 00:16:01 also, http://sprunge.us/XPfZ is what I was looking at 00:16:03 for reference 00:16:31 hangedman_vaults_entry_quadrant_bands seems to cause a decent number of breakages too 00:16:43 or contribute to? 00:16:51 ...kind of odd, @s shouldn't be so rough to work with 00:17:19 see how well tagging them all with transparent works 00:17:19 -!- Dingbat_ is now known as dingbutt 00:17:23 OK. 00:21:20 no apparent difference 00:21:37 hrmm 00:21:57 deferring to the people who intimately know this stuff, then, I guess >_> 00:22:05 shining on |amethyst 00:24:28 PleasingFungus: possibly it's the stuff it is diagramming that is art 00:24:34 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:40 it can be both! 00:24:45 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:27:39 ...possibly art that could someday use refactoring :) 00:28:41 Hmm. I can't just call system functions from an rc file using require "os", can I. 00:29:26 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1702-gd20c6a5 (34) 00:30:42 -!- punpun has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:31:13 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1703-g35804c3: Changelog through 0.18-a0-1702-gd20c6a5 10(19 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/35804c312b37 00:31:19 i certainly hope not! 00:31:54 bleh, it would appear you can't import other bits of lua t all 00:32:27 _ Lanterns of shadows. 00:32:47 yesss? 00:33:06 Hmm. Looks like I'm going to be using expect quite a lot. On the other hand I get to use python now, so that's good 00:33:17 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:37 And I can scribble out internal state from the lua still 00:33:50 this is for a bot? 00:34:20 as opposed to - Lantern of Shadows 00:36:28 the rest are pluralized! 00:36:35 ... 00:36:51 what I mean to highlight is that you used a _ and the rest are - 00:37:05 er 00:37:34 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:37:37 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1704-g762f1eb: oops (regret-index) 10(7 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/762f1eb6ea7c 00:38:03 oops-index 00:38:09 :) 00:38:23 make changelogs great again 00:38:36 ty donald 00:38:55 PleasingFungus: yup. going to teach crawl to play itself 00:39:03 have fun! 00:39:20 qw.rc is a better player than me already, so I figure I just need to up the ante 00:40:05 the year is 20XX 00:40:51 <|amethyst> PF uses an underscore instead of a hyphen. Look at the inconsistency. BAD TYPIST! 00:41:20 -!- owl has joined ##crawl-dev 00:41:42 nooo 00:41:43 no escape!!! 00:43:08 -!- FireSight has quit [] 00:50:41 ??lantern of shadows 00:50:41 lantern of shadows[1/4]: While wielded, summons friendly shadows at a rate depending on Evo (counts as necromancy to the good gods), reduces LOS by 25%, sets stealth to 0 and acts as two negative spell enhancers. Drains 1MP per turn, and all summoned shadows poof when no MP remains or when unwielded. 00:50:44 ??lantern of shadows[4 00:50:44 lantern of shadows[4/4]: http://i.imgur.com/IhhdCD2.png 00:50:51 its gone though, right? 00:51:42 What's the win rate for top players? 00:51:56 qw claims to win 4-5% of the time 00:52:10 !gamesby lasty 00:52:10 lasty has played 611 games, between 2014-02-18 23:08:35 and 2016-04-03 19:16:57, won 142 (23.2%), high score 15388117, total score 323302550, total turns 21137707, play-time/day 1:45:41, total time 56d+22:56:27. 00:52:35 Oh how refreshing, DCSS is one of those things where the best humans are still better than computers 00:52:51 !gamesby elliptic 00:52:52 elliptic has played 1963 games, between 2009-08-01 00:03:32 and 2015-12-02 05:01:25, won 617 (31.4%), high score 52436210, total score 1877042664, total turns 56644579, play-time/day 2:00:19, total time 193d+10:43:03. 00:53:16 huh cao scoring says 51% for elliptic 00:53:33 multiple accounts 00:53:39 !gamesby elliptic name=elliptic 00:53:40 elliptic (name=elliptic) has played 582 games, between 2009-08-01 00:03:32 and 2015-12-02 05:01:25, won 294 (50.5%), high score 52436210, total score 803556888, total turns 24607479, play-time/day 0:48:27, total time 77d+21:22:52. 00:53:42 oh duh right 00:53:46 !gamesby elliptic name=hyperelliptic 00:53:47 elliptic (name=hyperelliptic) has played 151 games, between 2011-01-28 04:45:26 and 2014-04-08 01:44:30, won 105 (69.5%), high score 9881739, total score 181240645, total turns 9025576, play-time/day 0:33:39, total time 27d+6:35:57. 00:54:06 That's insane 00:54:06 -!- thetao has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:54:48 I think normal human beings who are ok can expect to have like 10% 00:55:17 aygeeplus: glad you asked 00:55:18 ... 00:55:21 !won . won 00:55:22 gammafunk (won) has won 46 times in 46 games (100.00%): 2xOpTm 2xSpEn 1xCeAM 1xDDGl 1xDDHe 1xDEAs 1xDgWn 1xDrMo 1xDrNe 1xDsDK 1xDsNe 1xFeCK 1xFeCj 1xFoAK 1xGhEE 1xGhMo 1xGrDK 1xGrWn 1xHEFi 1xHEIE 1xHEWr 1xHOAs 1xHOFE 1xHaAM 1xHaAr 1xHaCj 1xHuSk 1xHuSu 1xKoEn 1xKoHu 1xMfSk 1xMuGl 1xNaVM 1xOgAK 1xOgAr 1xOpDK 1xTeAE 1xTrCK 1xTrHu 1xTrWr 1xVSFi 1xVSWz 1xVpIE 1xVpSu 00:55:32 heh gammafunk 00:55:33 with practice you can get there 00:55:36 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:56:00 the impressive 100% optm winrate 00:56:15 !gamesby * optm 00:56:17 * (optm) has played 52023 games, between 2011-04-07 07:45:01 and 2016-04-06 04:43:51, won 135 (0.3%), high score 30626830, total score 1650936097, total turns 196741238, play-time/day 7:24:33, total time 1y+199d+0:38:57. 00:56:20 !won . !won 00:56:21 CanOfWorms (!won) has not won in 91 games. 00:56:23 seems about right 00:56:32 :( 00:56:33 wow get good CanOfWorms 00:58:11 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:58:30 aygeeplus: also, qw does not play a tremendously wide variety of combos 00:59:03 It plays troll berserkers, DD berserkers, and i think tht's it 00:59:15 you can instruct it to pick a different background but I don't think it ever casts spells 00:59:18 I thought it played gargoyles 00:59:26 and if it can it switches to Trog 00:59:29 Does it use evokables? 00:59:41 or scrolls of blink/tele? 00:59:55 it has depleted wands of healing in morgue files so I think so 00:59:58 !lg qw won s=crace 00:59:59 18 games for qw (won): 9x Gargoyle, 5x Deep Dwarf, 2x Naga, Minotaur, Hill Orc 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:17 huh, I woulda thought troll would do better 01:00:38 !lg qw tr 01:00:39 18. qw the Ruffian (L5 TrFE), mangled by Eustachio (a +6 falchion of slicing) on D:4 on 2015-03-27 03:21:56, with 242 points after 2248 turns and 0:02:04. 01:00:55 Might be a problem getting armour 01:01:17 also good Fire Elementalist 01:02:27 trolls make good fire elementalists? 01:03:26 conjure flame! sticky flame! 01:08:36 trolls are really good at every background because claws are always an option 01:08:51 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:09:08 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:11:13 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:11:43 who put little water backgrounds on items in shallow water on the pick-up-stuff menu? 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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:06:58 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:14:58 -!- Guest10657 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:18:16 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 02:25:36 -!- Wheatmill has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:30:20 !Curemut failed to work 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10345 by Undo 02:30:28 good username/bug report combo 02:30:29 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:30:45 -!- Yorkfield has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:32:03 have you done one of those trunk update posts on the main website recently? 02:32:05 I like reading those 02:32:37 last one was a little shy of two weeks ago 02:32:44 i was thinking of making another, but idk that there's that much to report 02:34:26 ...oh, this message double-up problem is because of a line I can't remove without changing the other eyes on the giant eyeball genus >_> 02:39:56 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:40:18 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.1/20160315153207]] 02:53:35 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1704-g762f1eb 02:56:03 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:56:04 The build has errored. (master - 762f1eb #5220 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/121062275 02:56:04 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:01 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 03:02:57 -!- jamal has quit [Client Quit] 03:04:43 -!- CcS has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:10:03 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:13:50 -!- regret-index has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:19:59 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:22:48 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:25:59 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1704-g762f1eb (34) 03:30:19 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:40:43 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:55:24 So, dwarf fortress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLUfW-CVwPE <-- in the works for VR :D this video is just static 3d though (no vr) I was thinking of doing something similar, maybe show the actual webtiles in front however, and below you could look down on the tabletop? 03:55:47 Or would it be nicer only having a tabletop-like experience? 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01:38 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 04:02:31 <|amethyst> have you seen noteye? http://www.roguetemple.com/z/noteye/shots.php 04:03:24 <|amethyst> (sorry, can't stick around to chat, past bedtime for me) 04:04:25 nope, checking it out now 04:05:04 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:06:57 |amethyst: doesn't look like I can use webtiles then. I want to add VR on top of webtiles. 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09:25:09 games rather 09:25:51 -!- Serq has quit [Changing host] 09:30:16 <|amethyst> bgiannan: CSZO has gotten as high as 70 or so concurrent players during tournaments 09:30:28 <|amethyst> with 8 GiB of memory 09:30:49 that's not much 09:31:42 -!- Kurdy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:31:44 <|amethyst> if everybody is running a bot, you'd run into CPU limits well before that 09:32:06 <|amethyst> but probably it could go higher 09:33:32 <|amethyst> I guess you'd run into problems earlier from the single-threaded non-concurrent nature of webtiles 09:33:58 <|amethyst> that wouldn't be a problem for a console-only server 09:34:03 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:34:28 does someone ran some stats on the servers activity ? 09:34:42 <|amethyst> earlier than memory problems I mean---each crawl process is "only" about 20-40 MiB resident 09:34:49 <|amethyst> no 09:35:01 <|amethyst> I mean, other than the stats in sequell and/or scoring 09:35:34 <|amethyst> which don't really give you the information you're asking about 09:38:27 ok 09:39:12 did you see a rise in activity after the homepage of crawl changed to display the big 'Play Now' button ? 09:40:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:42:16 <|amethyst> I didn't notice a huge change, but I also haven't measured it so I can't say there wasn't one 09:42:41 !hs edsrzf dscj 09:42:42 29. edsrzf the Devastator (L23 DsCj of Okawaru), blasted by an ancient lich (crystal spear) on Depths:3 (lemuel_river_lethe) on 2016-03-20 21:39:50, with 1859332704 points after 61543 turns and 5:46:14. 09:43:00 !hs edsrzf dscj -log 09:43:02 29. edsrzf, XL23 DsCj, T:61543: https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/edsrzf/morgue-edsrzf-20160320-213950.txt 09:43:04 I must be missing something 09:43:42 <|amethyst> advil: CPO has some kind of problem with the .des cache, which can lead to running code that shouldn't be run 09:44:00 <|amethyst> advil: in this case it ran the arenasprint code that sets a custom scoring function 09:44:06 ohh heh 09:44:15 whoops 09:49:50 -!- owl has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:50 -!- kimball has quit [Client Quit] 09:58:03 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:06:17 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:12:22 -!- MadCoyote is now known as FunkyBomb 10:13:17 -!- owl has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:23:15 -!- Yorkfield has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:23:36 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:31:54 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:35:53 is ##crawl(-dev) on https://botbot.me/ or something like it ? 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Use F to throw any item. 11:02:19 am i missing something? 11:03:58 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:04:06 automagic_enable doesn't work in 0.17 but works in trunk. Seems to have been implemented a long time ago. works in 0.16 though 11:05:19 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:31 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:07:04 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:03 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:08:10 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:10:21 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:16:17 -!- Serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:19:09 -!- zot_trap has quit [Quit: zot_trap] 11:25:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:27:25 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:48 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:30:59 -!- vfoley has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:03 bgiannan: see topic: Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ 11:41:26 -!- alvarops has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:41:58 MarvinPA: thx 11:42:18 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:44:15 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:45:27 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:45 -!- yesno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:52:47 -!- yesno_ is now known as yesno 11:52:54 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:08 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:54:13 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:58:10 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:00:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:01:41 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 12:01:52 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:03:59 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:48 ...how is crawl compiling 12:13:24 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1705-g6d2e7c1: Move a xom IFDEF 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6d2e7c1f8d4e 12:13:28 Forced disconnect from webtiles leaves game open despite no one playing 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10346 by rageoholic 12:14:53 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:16:12 -!- arbor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:18:44 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:24:23 -!- zeeratt has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:40:32 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:11 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:01 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:58:56 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:13 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:01:10 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 13:01:13 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:09:15 <|amethyst> !source dungeon_terrain_changed 13:09:16 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/terrain.cc#l1135 13:09:53 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:12:45 -!- MadCoyote is now known as FunkyBomb 13:13:00 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:17:41 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:19:23 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:27 <|amethyst> !source _corrupt_square 13:24:28 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/abyss.cc#l1824 13:25:35 <|amethyst> !cmd !source 13:25:35 Built-in: !source => https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/commands/source.pl 13:26:28 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1705-g6d2e7c1 (34) 13:29:09 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:31:41 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:32:25 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:20 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:38:23 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:39:04 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:05 The build passed. (master - 6d2e7c1 #5221 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/121194668 13:39:06 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 13:39:06 <|amethyst> !tell johnstein Hurricos has some stuff e wanted to playtest, I suggested contacting you about putting it on dbro or something https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=19620 13:39:06 |amethyst: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 13:39:50 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:41:03 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:42:50 -!- Jessika has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:44:26 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:46:51 |amethyst: i'm guessing the last experiment you tried with cao scoring didn't work out? 13:48:03 -!- vfoley has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:51:35 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 13:52:22 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:53:33 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:53:57 -!- owl has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:49 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:59:18 hrm, testing seems very broken 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:53 or i'm fucking up 14:02:06 it seems like ./crawl -test mon-data should do something? 14:02:09 -!- zxc has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 14:02:43 also i keep getting 14:02:44 Regenerating des: ./dat/des/arrival/twisted.des 14:02:46 ./dat/des/arrival/twisted.des:929: unknown monster: "program bug" 14:04:17 this is very annoying 14:04:53 ugh, and bailey map validation is failing too 14:04:55 fuck this 14:05:40 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:53 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:10:29 is this with local changes? 14:11:13 no 14:11:13 make clean fixed it 14:11:17 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:11:18 this has happened before and it's a pita!!! 14:11:26 ah 14:11:31 to be clear, make clean fixed the vault issues, not testing 14:11:36 testing is fucked regardless 14:12:24 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:17:50 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:19:33 -!- hurricos has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:59 How can I get in contact with johnstein? 14:21:54 hurricos: for example on tavern 14:22:22 dpeg: :P I was looking for something more immediate - hoping he'd be in an IRC 14:22:25 but that's fine, thanks 14:22:31 -!- graymark has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:22:53 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:23:33 oh, ugh, i was fooled by shittiness 14:23:48 hurricos: Crawl is a pastime, not a day job! 14:24:04 Speak for yourself :( 14:24:08 then again, I'm a student 14:24:22 So I have my own excuses for spending so much time on it 14:25:15 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1706-g5fcf3e2: Properly report non-lua tests 10(17 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5fcf3e27cc5b 14:25:19 you could try sending him a !tell 14:30:54 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1707-gf44ca60: Validate xom events 10(13 seconds ago, 3 files, 62+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f44ca607240f 14:35:41 -!- fixit_friend has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:36:26 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:38:43 PleasingFungus: I sent him a Tavern message for now 14:38:52 I will also send a !tell, thanks for the advic 14:38:52 e 14:39:27 !tell johnstein Hey, I sent you a private message on Tavern asking for a favor about hosting my experimental branch hurricrawl on DBRO. Thanks for your time! 14:39:27 hurricos: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 14:39:38 !sequell is awesome 14:43:09 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:46:33 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:46:52 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1708-g9eca714: Deduplicate common test code 10(14 seconds ago, 8 files, 32+ 62-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9eca714f41ad 14:51:27 -!- fixit_friend has quit [Client Quit] 14:51:49 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:52:39 Would it be cruel to make a Giant caster race not able to wear any robes 14:52:43 I think it would be cruel ... 14:52:48 sounds funny to me 14:52:54 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:52:55 They CAN wear animal skins 14:53:04 Maybe I can just write jokeco oh you know 14:53:29 hm, I never thought of implementing this, but I could make some new code to deal with applying enchant / brand scrolls to items 14:53:38 ehh silly waste of time for them 14:54:13 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:54:23 I was just wondering why no scrolls of brand armour exist :( 14:54:34 but I guess you find enough equipment in a given game 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:18 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 15:11:26 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.1/20160315153207]] 15:15:56 -!- fallenxxsky has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:16:04 -!- NotKat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:20:19 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:20 The build has errored. 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(master - f44ca60 #5223 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/121232441 16:10:26 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 16:12:13 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-1711-g178178d: Don't let fleeing monsters zap rods or wands 10(23 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/178178d0af2a 16:13:03 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 16:13:30 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:14:51 oh wow, DDoor prevents you from passing out from hunger if you're starving 16:15:09 is that a powerful new tech with the addition of HUNGER_FAINTING or has it always been like that 16:15:10 Uh 16:15:17 -!- hurricos is now known as Hurricos 16:15:21 I thought you could still die from hunger ... 16:15:52 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:15:59 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:16:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 16:16:36 DDoor has preventing you from starving for some time 16:17:25 possibly forever? i know i committed something to do with ddoor and starvation in the distant past 16:17:42 that's weird. i thought it was just supposed to prevent you from losing HP 16:17:59 oh wow excellent, it was me who introduced it 16:18:05 %git b3939d1ff62b5cb6083e0ca4fad491fcba77401f 16:18:05 07MarvinPA02 * 0.9-a1-1378-gb3939d1: Don't display starvation messages when immune to starvation due to Death's Door 10(4 years, 9 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b3939d1ff62b 16:18:07 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:18:32 I have come to find that CK is rather ... 16:18:33 interesting 16:18:37 especially when it's on a fragile race 16:18:48 Very interesting 16:18:50 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:52 anyway the point here was to ask if you should be able to eat while paralysed 16:18:57 since that seems a bit weird 16:19:20 !lg . ck killer~~ball 16:19:21 1. amalloy the Slicer (L8 KoCK of Xom), killed by an exploding ball lightning (created by the player character) on D:6 on 2015-07-17 18:20:49, with 1181 points after 5864 turns and 0:19:33. 16:19:26 (if you're doing the automatic eating-instead-of-starving thing) 16:19:27 I asked wheals about that 16:19:29 at the time 16:19:39 he agreed it was silly but felt that mechanically it was simpler+better to allow it 16:19:44 (while para'd, sleeping, w/e) 16:19:46 iirc 16:19:48 petrified was the other one, right 16:20:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:20:09 Maybe death to starvation should take a few turns like old statdeath 16:20:11 ? 16:20:15 while generally unable to act, yeah 16:20:42 I mean in normal cases where you're actually starving because you're going too slow in the game 16:20:44 or spamming spells 16:21:03 (maybe not directly after hitting a high level spell but you get what I mean) 16:21:09 you're usually dying slowly anyways 16:21:21 so why is it not a delayed death 16:21:32 if dying to starvation is already so stupid? 16:22:09 i suppose blocking it while paralysed interacts badly with the fact that starvation itself causes paralysis 16:22:11 How did old statdeath work? 16:22:59 I thikn it was just like plain 80 turns until death 16:23:01 depends on the definition of old! originally it was instant upon hitting 0 16:23:09 well old notcruelstatdeath 16:23:22 oldnewstatdeath 16:23:29 then it was irresistible damage taken every time you get further drained while <= 0 16:23:30 Also are there any known issues with bonesifying ghosts of new races 16:23:37 it wasn't delayed at any point afaik 16:23:49 or am I being slaughtered by my own monkey ghosts just because I pump UC so high 16:23:57 you probably are, yes. 16:24:13 -!- spriseris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:24:20 generally early-game melee ghosts are pretty nasty 16:24:49 d:3 gsc OgBe berserk ghost 16:25:00 that would be amazing, imagine the kill rate 16:25:10 ghosts can't berserk, and also have no god 16:25:18 or anyway, have no divine abilities 16:25:26 as far as I'm aware they still carry HP from being zerked 16:25:50 because the way berserk damage reduction is applied is ... strange 16:25:51 oh sure 16:26:00 And so is the might status ... 16:26:20 Might as well just make a D:2 CeBe ghost with the dark maul and call it a day 16:27:11 MarvinPA: iirc it was briefly delayed death before the damage was added 16:27:12 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:39 Okawaru + exploding sling bullet = penance 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10347 by RoGGa 16:27:58 Cheers! 16:28:10 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:28:20 oh maybe, yeah 16:28:44 !cheers PleasingFungus 16:28:45 * Sequell slides a glass of brandy across the bar to PleasingFungus, courtesy of wheals. 16:29:00 (: 16:29:10 looks like it was like that for a while actually 16:29:21 %git fc0b40fd5b43850b9998e3497ae4f9c823cf8109 16:29:21 07by02 * 0.7.0-a0-977-gfc0b40f: Remove stat insta-death. 10(6 years ago, 8 files, 69+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fc0b40fd5b43 16:29:27 %git 095ef86229c4951f78cf5305eaa26feb5db59465 16:29:27 07MarvinPA02 * 0.13-a0-1645-g095ef86: Remove stat death, have stat loss below 0 cause damage instead 10(2 years, 10 months ago, 6 files, 24+ 65-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/095ef86229c4 16:29:52 oh, that long? I would have guessed more like one year than three years 16:30:10 huh 16:32:04 yeah, i definitely remember the weird 90 action thing now that i see the commit 16:32:15 but i thought it was way shorter than that too 16:35:08 -!- Hisar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:37:29 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-1712-g5661db0: Allow passing out due to hunger under DDoor 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5661db0bc70a 16:37:45 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:38:04 lol @ comment 16:38:11 commit comment 16:38:14 Uh 16:38:23 @MarvinPA I think that is a very bad idea 16:38:41 ok. i don't 16:38:43 Considering you cannot also berserk during Death's Door - the flavor's just so terrible 16:38:49 Or do anything that requires you to you know 16:38:50 be alive 16:38:52 you can be paralysed under death's door from other sources 16:38:59 Sure, but you can't do living things 16:39:01 and fainting is a living thing 16:39:09 it doesn't actually make you undead. 16:39:16 that's not the theme of the spell. 16:39:31 it makes you unkillable. that's the theme of the spell. 16:39:32 Egh, you should be able to lich while doored then. I don't know, it's weird 16:39:52 it's incredibly niche and a very silly thing to complain about. 16:39:54 chill. 16:39:57 it's literally an interaction that has never and will never affect anyone 16:40:03 <|amethyst> is there a reason not to allow berserk under ddoor? without giving the bonus HP of course 16:40:05 Yeah, you're not exactly going to get killed by a hungry ghost while ... yeah 16:40:13 |amethyst: Exh saturation 16:40:23 (was my guess, besides being 'not living') 16:40:25 <|amethyst> oh, ddoor uses Exh, that's right 16:40:47 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:41:16 Yeah, uh 16:41:23 the theme of the spell is that you're effectively dead: 16:41:23 player-act.cc: msg = "Your body is effectively dead and in no shape for a blood rage."; 16:41:28 in context of raising a blood rage 16:41:30 I mean, I don't know. 16:41:42 It's not really relevant since the death cob AF_HUNGER removal 16:42:13 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:45:25 <|amethyst> huh 16:45:28 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:45:44 <|amethyst> so if your necromancy goes up during ddor, it looks like that increases your current HP? 16:45:47 <|amethyst> s/ddor/ddoor/ 16:46:37 it looks like it only triggers to reduce your hp, not to increase it 16:46:44 <|amethyst> ah 16:46:49 if you're looking at player-reacts.cc 16:47:00 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 16:47:29 <|amethyst> yeah, I see that now 16:48:05 <|amethyst> so if you get drained it goes down, but that's not as weird 16:48:19 <|amethyst> or if you swap off your enhancer 16:50:28 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:50:54 -!- dingbutt has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:51:02 i remember running into this when i was removing the other spell effects that keyed directly off skill, rather than power 16:52:30 I can confirm it only triggers for decreases 16:52:41 e.g. if you DDoor / cast Statue / exit Statue, you lose hp 16:54:09 -!- Serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:56:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1713-g50a528e: Improve a rare message (Hurricos) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/50a528e9876d 16:58:04 Awesome 16:58:20 I found it inconsistent with the other things anyways - can transform into non-undead forms from DDoor 16:58:24 etc etc 16:58:40 note that the spell description still describes the body as "thinking it is dead", something like that 16:59:00 but that's different from "effectively dead", maybe. 16:59:00 Yeah, I was aware of that notion - but if the body thinks it's dead, why does it starve? 16:59:03 -!- rkd has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:10 So 16:59:20 the body works in mysterious ways. 16:59:24 especially when magic is involved. 16:59:25 truly 16:59:42 FR: Vp can Lich 16:59:44 <|amethyst> there are other similar messages 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:11 hello, was wondering if anyone could help me, I'm using putty to connect to CAO, and once I start a game or load a save. I get a bunch of lua errors and warnings about files missing 17:00:19 Lua error: Can't find "lua/trapwalk.lua" Lua error: Can't find "lua/pickup.lua" Lua error: Can't find "lua/autofight.lua" Warning: Cannot find file "autopickup_exceptions.txt". (~/.crawlrc:106) Warning: Cannot find file "runrest_messages.txt". (~/.crawlrc:196) Warning: Cannot find file "standard_colours.txt". (~/.crawlrc:267) Warning: Cannot find file "food_colouring.txt". (~/.crawlrc:280) Warning: Cannot find file "menu_c 17:00:23 to be exact 17:00:24 =) 17:00:37 <|amethyst> looks like just one more "You cannot pay life while functionally dead." 17:00:43 <|amethyst> rkd: you have an ancient rc file 17:00:46 ^ 17:00:50 <|amethyst> rkd: do you have any customisation? 17:01:06 <|amethyst> rkd: if not, you can just delete the file or wipe its contents 17:01:17 |amethyst: no not that I know of, downloaded putty just a few days ago 17:01:19 <|amethyst> otherwise, delete everything you didn't specifically set, and in particular those includes 17:01:27 unless customisation is based on login? 17:01:37 <|amethyst> it's based on login 17:01:44 in which case I might have done something long ago 17:02:03 <|amethyst> from the menu for the version you want to play (trunk for example) 17:02:06 <|amethyst> do AO 17:02:14 <|amethyst> (A)dvanced -> reset (O)ptions 17:02:32 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:03:40 alright thanks 17:03:47 I wonder what I changed tho, and why 17:03:47 :D 17:03:54 <|amethyst> probably nothing 17:04:15 <|amethyst> just that you created your account long ago, when the default rc file had nothing in it 17:04:20 nah, I already remember one thing I changed, the "path" that is shown after using autoexplore 17:04:25 <|amethyst> like 0.10ish or earlier 17:04:33 <|amethyst> rkd: you want that on or off? 17:04:46 <|amethyst> should be on by default on the servers 17:04:46 atm doesnt matter 17:04:51 it is on now 17:04:53 it wasnt before 17:04:59 and I think I removed that before 17:05:00 cant remember 17:05:00 :D 17:05:05 thanks for the help btw 17:05:07 <|amethyst> if you want it off, show_travel_trail = false 17:05:37 <|amethyst> (but probably you want to set a nonnegative travel_delay too if you do that) 17:06:08 !lm regeoholic 17:06:09 No milestones for regeoholic. 17:06:11 !lm rageoholic 17:06:12 48. [2016-04-06 15:58:52] rageoholic the Shield-Bearer (L1 MiFi) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 17:06:24 !bug 10346 17:06:24 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10346 17:06:33 |amethyst: ^ iirc this resolves itself after 10 minutes or such? 17:06:41 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 17:06:43 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:06:56 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: yes, but I'd prefer to leave the issue open 17:07:25 <|amethyst> since really we should be able to detect a disconnect and HUP the client or something 17:07:39 Hm, OK. 17:07:39 <|amethyst> or maybe we do and the HUP isn't doing what we want? 17:07:47 <|amethyst> err 17:07:51 <|amethyst> s/the client/crawl/ 17:07:57 ohwell I just died 17:10:03 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:10:08 bad move 17:13:00 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:14:45 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:39 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:18:56 -!- owl has left ##crawl-dev 17:26:53 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:17 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34:27 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:34:34 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:36:24 -!- Query42 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:37:34 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:34 -!- fygeys has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:43:21 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 17:44:24 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:46:00 -!- mamgar has quit [Client Quit] 17:46:18 !nick -rm amalloy mountebank 17:46:18 Deleted mountebank from amalloy => akm amalloy mountebank yollama hyperamalloy 17:46:35 !nick amalloy mountebank (cao) 17:46:36 Mapping amalloy => (cao) akm amalloy yollama hyperamalloy mountebank 17:46:39 hm 17:47:16 someone recently registered mountebank on cbro. can i set up the amalloy nick to exclude that one, while still including games by amalloy on cbro? 17:47:55 !nick -rm amalloy (cao) 17:47:56 (cao) not mapped in amalloy => (cao) akm amalloy yollama hyperamalloy mountebank 17:49:06 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:49:07 The build has errored. (master - 8dbe2ad #5225 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/121252143 17:49:07 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:50:00 -!- rkd has left ##crawl-dev 17:50:48 -!- tripout has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:52:09 !nick amalloy 17:52:10 Mapping amalloy => (cao) akm amalloy yollama hyperamalloy mountebank 17:52:56 Vampire 2nd "Innate Abilities..." screen only accessible with mouse 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10348 by RoGGa 17:54:55 !nick amalloy (((!cbro || name!=mountebank))) 17:54:55 Mapping amalloy => (((!cbro || name!=mountebank))) akm amalloy yollama hyperamalloy mountebank 17:55:13 !lg amalloy name=mountebank s=src 17:55:14 125 games for amalloy (name=mountebank): 125x cao 17:55:24 goodness, that is a lot of parens. thanks 17:55:47 !lg amalloy s=src 17:55:47 382 games for amalloy: 379x cao, 3x cbro 17:55:52 okay, that hopefully works 17:55:57