00:00:19 Cloning into 'crawl-ref/source/contrib/sdl'... fatal: unable to connect to gitorious.org: gitorious.org[0: 64.13.172.37]: errno=No error gitorious.org[1: 2a02:c0:1014::1]: errno=No error Clone of 'git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl-sdl.git' into submodule path 'crawl-ref/source/contrib/sdl' failed 00:00:24 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:29 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:00:42 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1467-g3113c52a: Fix a warning for statue interrupts 10(30 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3113c52aa293 00:01:06 Tried "git submodule update --init", got this. What can I do to fix it? 00:01:15 gitorious is dead 00:01:18 you need to use github 00:01:26 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/ 00:01:46 https://help.github.com/articles/changing-a-remote-s-url/ 00:02:15 Thanks, will try. 00:02:33 -!- Guest9417 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:03:41 r i p gitorious 00:03:45 a tragic loss 00:03:55 it was kind of bad 00:04:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1467-g3113c52a: Fix a warning for statue interrupts 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3113c52aa293 00:04:31 Hmm, git remote -v shows only github urls. 00:06:10 what happens if you cd into contribs? 00:06:13 and then run git remote -v 00:07:03 User@Computer MINGW64 /c/assfork/crawl/crawl-ref/source/contrib (assfork) $ git remote -v crawl https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git (fetch) crawl https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git (push) origin https://github.com/Wingboner/crawl.git (fetch) origin https://github.com/Wingboner/crawl.git (push) 00:09:10 curious 00:09:45 The version I'm trying to build is 0.14.2, could this be important? 00:09:52 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:40 grep -r gitorious from the root directory of your repo 00:12:06 where is the code that manages eating chunks off the floor? 00:12:16 eat_from_inventory has a note saying it doesn't deal with chunks 00:12:31 i mean, *eat_from_floor 00:13:46 So do I just change all the links to github manually? Like this one: crawl-ref/source/contrib/sdl2/src/video/wayland/SDL_waylandtouch.h: http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtwayland/ 00:15:03 well, that's in a comment 00:15:31 i suspect the references are in your root .git directory 00:15:44 .gitmodules: url = git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl-sqlite.git .gitmodules: url = git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl-lua.git .gitmodules: url = git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl-luajit.git .gitmodules: url = git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl-pcre.git .gitmodules: url = git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl-freetype.git .gitmodules: url = git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl-sdl.git .gitmodules: url = git://gitorious.org/c 00:15:48 This one? 00:16:00 probably. i don't really know submodules 00:18:21 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 00:18:42 hm 00:19:03 I wonder if I should reopen 6511 with the mission of supporting *grey and *gray interchangeably for tile names 00:20:04 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:21:22 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:23:28 Nice, it worked. Trying to build tiles now... 00:24:46 ( I wish none of my friends played tiles, so I didn't have to mess with it, heh) 00:25:04 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:27:14 have you considered that, actually, tiles is good? 00:28:19 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1466-g2490093 (34) 00:28:26 ??tiles reasons 00:28:26 tiles reasons[1/1]: 00:28:28 <.< 00:29:22 Yes. Then I tried tiles, tried again, got disappointed and decided that no, the tiles version is not good for me. 00:29:24 Grunt: clearly a tile that's not rendering. 00:31:00 ??tiles unreasons 00:31:00 tiles unreasons[1/5]: the bone rune tile looks uncomfortably close to a dildo, imo 00:31:24 ??tiles unreasons[$ 00:31:24 tiles unreasons[5/5]: http://i.imgur.com/L4N3PDI.gif 00:31:25 >boner_une 00:31:32 ahhh 00:31:35 there's a bug for that 00:31:39 I can't remember what the situation was 00:32:01 There's a player ghost on that picture. 00:32:12 On the left of the player. 00:36:31 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:40:39 yes, I know 00:40:50 I meant the situation with the bug report 00:42:59 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1468-gaf180a1: Fix ettin tile trailing pixels in webtiles 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/af180a178a11 00:43:08 AnotherFungus, what do you think about giving the pets demonic guardian AI? 00:43:19 remind me what that entails 00:44:18 Better target locking. I have a demonspawn with guardian and Hepl running; guardians are strictly better at deciding to fight things. 00:44:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1468-gaf180a1: Fix ettin tile trailing pixels in webtiles 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/af180a178a11 00:44:53 as far as I can tell, there's no AI difference 00:45:19 they're immune to your beams & clouds; that's it 00:45:34 btw 00:45:36 !bug 8488 00:45:37 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8488 00:45:47 The guardians go to fight anything they see; the ancestor waits till something hits me or it. 00:46:32 they'll also attack anything that you attack, in melee or at range 00:46:36 throw a stone at something to mark it 00:46:40 or blast it, w/e 00:48:01 anyway, the targetting is because they're generated with MG_AUTOFOE (automatically target an enemy after spawning in); after that, they have the exact same behaviour as everything else 00:48:08 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 00:48:09 fsim with weapon inscribed with {!a} enters infinite loop 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10307 by crate 00:48:57 Too bad. So no agressive mode for the ancestors... 00:49:49 my honest advice is to learn to use your allies better 00:49:58 fsim with weapon inscribed with {!a} enters infinite loop 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10307 by crate 00:49:58 Also, battlemages are too squishy for their behaviour. "Yeah, I need to run into melee and hit with my staff!" — oops, pet's dead. 00:50:16 lmao @ bug 00:51:25 -!- AnotherFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 00:51:36 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:59:40 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest75877 00:59:45 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:00:24 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:41 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:04:19 -!- Guest75877 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:23:21 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:27:42 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:27:56 -!- falkor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:28:15 -!- giann has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:32:05 -!- dtsund has left ##crawl-dev 01:32:58 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:35:18 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:36:38 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:36:54 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:37:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:40:53 -!- Zeor1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:46:23 -!- Nimuir has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:55:49 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:57:22 -!- gressup has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:57:30 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 02:00:24 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:11:09 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:12:28 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:15:02 -!- Blade__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:16:22 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 02:19:04 -!- Blade___ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:24:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:25:40 -!- Blade__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:26:51 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 02:26:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:26:52 -!- bobbytwohands has quit [Client Quit] 02:28:48 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:34:28 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:35:44 -!- inire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:38:06 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:39:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:39:10 -!- Nimuir has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:40:42 -!- Blade___ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:47:54 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:49:53 i did not realize that holy word hurt your ancestor 02:50:24 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 02:52:34 yeah i still think it would be nice for ancestor to not be undead 02:52:43 heh 02:52:44 (unless you're an undead race i guess) 02:52:52 it's not the ghost of your ancestor, it's a memory of him 02:52:55 i mean 02:52:58 i guess it makes sense 02:53:04 at least it doesn't make hep mad 03:00:24 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:28 -!- Hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:01:25 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:01:25 the rune vault in swamp can be disconnected from part of the level? 03:02:35 -!- johnny0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:04:09 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:06:30 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:07:18 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:12:54 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 03:16:52 -!- infrashortfoo has joined ##crawl-dev 03:24:46 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1468-gaf180a1 (34) 03:24:47 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:28:37 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:32:34 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:34:07 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 03:34:08 The build was broken. (master - 2490093 #4943 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/112773739 03:34:08 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 03:34:09 -!- DaneiTHREE has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:39:00 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:39:26 -!- sgun__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:44:46 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:53:24 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:00:24 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:06:19 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:07:00 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 04:18:47 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 04:22:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 04:25:55 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:27:55 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:40:06 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:40:20 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:48:37 -!- vev has quit [Client Quit] 04:48:46 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:50:29 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:57:16 -!- DashNine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:00:25 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:35 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:08:22 -!- sooheon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:19:53 -!- kreedzfreak has quit [] 05:20:20 -!- lnt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:40:34 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:41:51 -!- Meriados has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:43:48 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:56:28 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:57:22 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:00:24 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:07:30 -!- Galewind has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:08:34 -!- Nimuir has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:10:48 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:17:09 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1468-gaf180a1 (34) 06:20:15 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:20:48 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:50 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:40:50 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:45:07 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Quit: Bye] 06:45:44 @??kobold 06:45:44 kobold (07K) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 2-4 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: human. 06:45:47 @??goblin 06:45:47 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 3-5 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: human. 06:45:54 why are there both kobolds and goblins? 06:47:41 ps, i made a patch a while ago for abandoning god confirmation 06:49:38 http://dpaste.com/2DJRTCA.txt <-- free to a good committer 06:51:33 -!- sooheon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:55:50 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:00:24 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:05:27 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:09:39 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:27:41 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 07:34:03 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:39:02 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:40:35 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:43:52 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:45:23 -!- Lasty_1 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:47:17 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:58:45 !tell pleasingfungus i regret the 'pick up purple items by default' change -- i wish now that just ambrosia was non-purple 07:58:45 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 07:59:41 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:00:04 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:25 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02:55 !tell pleasingfungus maud idea: gozag worshipper, drops a lot of gold and an artifact!!!! 08:02:56 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 08:03:14 !tell pleasingfungus (c) chequers 2016 08:03:14 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 08:03:47 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:06:57 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:07:28 -!- paulr has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 08:08:21 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:21:17 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:22:27 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:22:31 fr remove unbreathing as a thing 08:22:37 it affects very little 08:22:49 and just complicates races that are already complex 08:24:45 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:42:25 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:46:44 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 08:50:00 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 08:52:13 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 08:57:30 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:59:47 chequers: but dat grey drac meph synergy!!!! 09:00:24 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:10:08 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:41:37 -!- Guest38420 has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:42:05 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:44:42 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 09:46:10 -!- ArbitraryName has joined ##crawl-dev 09:46:16 -!- ArbitraryName has quit [Client Quit] 09:47:37 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:48:41 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52:17 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:55:45 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:59:12 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:25 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06:19 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:09:47 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:11:43 -!- grimmulfr has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:17:23 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:17:23 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:19:29 -!- Meriados has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:20:00 !comborobin 10:20:02 comborobin progress: 612/615 (99%) 10:24:53 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:30:31 !lg * comborobin s=char / won N=0 10:30:31 No keyword 'comborobin' 10:30:36 !lg comborobin s=char / won N=0 10:30:37 Unknown field: n 10:30:47 !lg comborobin s=char / won ?:N=0 10:30:48 96 games for comborobin: 0/1x TrDK [0.00%], 0/1x SESt [0.00%], 0/1x SEPr [0.00%], 0/1x BeGl [0.00%], 0/1x DDHe [0.00%], 0/1x SaBe [0.00%], 0/2x BeBe [0.00%], 0/2x VSHe [0.00%], 0/3x LaMo [0.00%], 0/4x HOHe [0.00%], 0/4x FeEE [0.00%], 0/6x DsDK [0.00%], 0/9x DrNe [0.00%], 0/10x SEBe [0.00%], 0/17x MiDK [0.00%], 0/33x CeCj [0.00%] 10:30:53 !lg comborobin playable s=char / won ?:N=0 10:30:56 46 games for comborobin (playable): 0/4x FeEE [0.00%], 0/9x DrNe [0.00%], 0/33x CeCj [0.00%] 10:31:04 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:35:54 -!- infrashortfoo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:37 -!- AnotherFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:52 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:43:18 bugs incoming 10:43:54 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1469-ge26f609: Remove two dungeon_terrain_changed params 10(21 minutes ago, 29 files, 57+ 63-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e26f609298c1 10:43:59 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:45:45 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1469-ge26f609: Remove two dungeon_terrain_changed params 10(23 minutes ago, 29 files, 57+ 63-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e26f609298c1 10:49:04 were you looking at the crypt stairs thing? 10:49:20 yes 10:49:24 I wanted to add another parameter 10:49:28 but there were already six 10:52:30 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:52:58 hm, I have a fix for 9855 (crypt) but not 10101 (doors sealed while exiting Vaults breaks travel) 10:54:21 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:16 -!- archaeo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:24 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:35 hm 11:01:37 now it works 11:05:25 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1470-ge1ff36e: Don't forget about sealed branches (9855) 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e1ff36ed4774 11:06:10 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1470-ge1ff36e: Don't forget about sealed branches (9855) 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e1ff36ed4774 11:09:24 <|amethyst> AnotherFungus: one problem 11:09:32 <|amethyst> AnotherFungus: now wizmode &(rock wall teleports you 11:09:44 heh 11:10:07 could disable it in wizmode 11:10:38 <|amethyst> not sure that sounds like a good idea 11:10:58 <|amethyst> since it makes it kind of difficult to test real terrain changes 11:11:04 true 11:11:54 bad ideas: just have wiz-dgn move you back to your last position after it sets the terrain 11:11:59 teleport and unteleport 11:16:39 <|amethyst> I also worry slightly about this from volcano.des: 11:16:43 <|amethyst> - dgn.terrain_changed(pos.x, pos.y, "lava", false, false, false) 11:16:43 <|amethyst> + dgn.terrain_changed(pos.x, pos.y, "lava", false, false) 11:17:09 <|amethyst> ah, never mind 11:17:35 <|amethyst> that is specifically inside a "not your position" check 11:18:13 imo, anything that put lava beneath you would already be a bug 11:18:57 <|amethyst> right, but putting lava beneath you and having you float over it is slightly less significant of a bug than instakilling the player :) 11:19:03 details! 11:20:56 <|amethyst> it doesn't help with the wizmode thing, but what do you think about changing the you.can_pass_through in _dgn_check_terrain_player to you.is_habitable_feat ? 11:21:11 plausible 11:21:12 <|amethyst> that way if lava/deep water does spawn beneath you, and you're not flying, you get a teleport rather than dying 11:21:22 yeah 11:26:21 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1471-gbbaf034: Fix wizmode terrain change (|amethyst) 10(20 seconds ago, 3 files, 22+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bbaf034c5230 11:27:01 what would be really good 11:27:13 hm 11:27:17 I have a few minutes to test 11:30:47 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 11:30:52 <|amethyst> I just realized 11:31:05 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1471-gbbaf034: Fix wizmode terrain change (|amethyst) 10(5 minutes ago, 3 files, 22+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bbaf034c5230 11:31:15 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:20 <|amethyst> I never started sizzell after CSZO rebooted 11:33:13 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:33:18 New branch created: betterwater (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/betterwater 11:33:18 03PleasingFungus02 07[betterwater] * 0.18-a0-1472-g63f80f0: Let flooding affect all walkable terrain 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63f80f0df2e4 11:33:23 oops 11:34:18 -!- AnotherFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 11:34:23 this was the original behaviour 11:34:51 -!- feksclaus has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 11:35:52 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:36:02 -!- Torax_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:36:36 New branch created: betterwater (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/betterwater 11:36:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[betterwater] * 0.18-a0-1472-g63f80f0: Let flooding affect all walkable terrain 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63f80f0df2e4 11:36:51 -!- molotove has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:38:02 <|amethyst> The change does not appear to have been because of ctrl-o 11:38:05 <|amethyst> !bug 8078 11:38:06 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8078 11:38:18 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:52 <|amethyst> clearly "amount of water/lava on the square" needs to be separate from feature type 11:40:08 <|amethyst> so you have have watery shops, stairs in lava, etc 11:42:50 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:43:02 -!- molotove1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:43:52 You climb downwards. The lava burns you to a cinder! You die... 11:49:14 -!- Meriados has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:55:09 -!- MBlaureNs_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:56:12 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:56:54 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:58:07 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Quit: zzzZZZzzzz....] 11:58:39 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:59:23 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:24 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:35 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:02:45 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:02:49 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:22 -!- ldf_ has quit [Quit: ldf_] 12:12:22 -!- WebFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:06 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:15:24 -!- giann has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:57 trying to find actual reasoning for the change that limited tiles nymphs can affect 12:19:10 drowning stairs seems to have been considered a feature as recently as jan. 31st of 2014; |amethyst pushed a fix for a crash caused by it 12:19:58 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:20:47 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:21:37 -!- halv has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:24:37 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1471-gbbaf034 (34) 12:30:10 -!- giann has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:30:28 %git f861ac59fee8bce4aed35b380a82c14873210190 12:30:28 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2827-gf861ac5: Make nymph flooding consistent with phial flooding (#8078). 10(2 years ago, 3 files, 11+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f861ac59fee8 12:30:45 i think it was discussed in the channel at the time 12:30:53 I've been looking 12:31:01 it's been a while 12:31:23 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:59 cool to see how excited everyone was about the big DO summoning overhaul 12:33:24 I wonder if some effect that made summons automatically explode on death/expiration/abjuration would be interesting? possibly not a spell effect 12:35:33 alternately, some effect which specifically enslaved hostile summons 12:38:32 yeah, I give up, I can't find any discussion that led to the nymph stair-drowning change 12:39:27 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:19 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:46:33 there might not have been, besides players complaining about its lethality 12:46:41 perhaps on ##crawl 12:47:09 perhaps 12:47:14 or... webtiles chat...!? 12:47:41 i am not and never have been a member of the cszo webtiles chat! 12:47:49 I don't remember if the webtiles chat scene existed back then 12:48:23 wheals: sure, that's what they all say. 12:49:02 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:49:13 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:51:02 %git gauntlet 12:51:02 07regret-index02 * 0.18-a0-1455-g67c73e9: New portal vault: the Gauntlet (set-up, concept map) 10(34 hours ago, 14 files, 401+ 5-) 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16:50:28 this isn't d&d, pretty sure healing magic works as normal on the undead :p 16:51:19 well not on zombies or skeletons presumably 16:52:10 true 16:54:30 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:54:59 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:55:19 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 16:56:26 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:48 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 16:56:51 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:59:30 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 16:59:53 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:00:13 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest39049 17:00:30 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:36 haha 17:01:49 yeah, still not worth the inventory slot 17:01:59 since i have an ability that also heals my ancestor 17:02:38 i think it's a little weird that acquirement will give you /hw for a VS though 17:02:56 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:03:16 you could always become a summoner! 17:03:19 i mean, yes, technically not useless, but "gee, thanks" 17:03:32 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:03:35 (also note that for VS it's at least not upweighted like it is for other races) 17:03:36 yes, i want to give up my +10 plate mail with the slaying and take that up 17:03:46 i assumed it wasn't 17:04:17 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:04:37 why are you complaining when you have a +10 plate with slaying :P 17:04:48 i think the RNG was just trying to get back at you with the wand :P 17:15:24 -!- themonke1bob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:15:31 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:16:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:17:23 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:19:58 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:21:53 lol 17:21:55 probably 17:22:11 i just have literally nothing i want to acquire except a haste wand 17:22:34 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:23:13 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 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has quit [Quit: slepẽ] 18:05:32 someone already suggested test spawner >.> 18:06:11 hah 18:06:20 emperor liches 18:06:23 time dragons 18:07:31 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:08:31 what does a time dragon do 18:08:49 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:08:57 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:09:22 ProzacElf: the code has a comment suggesting the weight should be 1 18:09:27 ProzacElf: i would prefer 1 too 18:09:39 although really, using /hw on allies is such a non-thing I would prefer 0 18:09:59 yeah, i just dropped the thing somewhere in crypt 18:10:02 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1471-gbbaf034 (34) 18:10:08 like, has anyone ever healed an ally in a winning game in the past year(, who wasn't a korean playing beogh) 18:10:18 i honestly can hardly even see the utility of healing a summon 18:10:47 and playing beogh automatically means the wand is useful for the player again 18:11:08 unless you are stuck with crappy muts or are wearing robe of vines 18:11:19 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:11:21 ah true 18:11:23 both of which are situations you can remove yourself from 18:11:37 and the other ally gods don't need /hw, undead can't use it and H has romanticise 18:11:51 i guess it should work on yred allies 18:12:00 i don't see why it wouldn't 18:12:07 but again, odds are you're not a VS then 18:12:10 well vampires yes, but undead things lose maxhp 18:12:11 so it's still useful for you 18:12:18 <|amethyst> ? 18:12:23 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest50225 18:12:23 i guess a fair few of yred allies are non-undead though 18:12:28 most yred allies aren't zombies/skels 18:12:29 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:12:30 <|amethyst> huh 18:12:34 well, maybe not "most" 18:12:35 <|amethyst> most yred allies are undead 18:12:38 depending on how you play 18:12:40 <|amethyst> all I think 18:12:44 yeah, all 18:12:49 <|amethyst> but most undead don't have the maxhp thing 18:12:51 chequers: only skeletons and zombies can't use /hw 18:12:52 right 18:12:53 undead as shorthand for "can't be healed" 18:12:58 good to know 18:13:00 that is the worst shorthand 18:13:03 <|amethyst> ... 18:13:05 lol 18:13:07 for this game, yes 18:13:12 that is terrible shorthand 18:13:19 most other games it's true 18:13:27 "most" 18:13:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:13:48 i can't think of another one off the top of my head that undead can be healed via standard methods 18:13:53 i'm sure they exist 18:14:39 <|amethyst> oh, huh... apparently even some derived undead can be healed 18:14:44 <|amethyst> namely, spectral things 18:14:47 really? 18:14:57 i never tried, but i guess they do have the normal hp meter 18:15:33 -!- serQ has quit [Quit: suddenly gone...] 18:15:49 ProzacElf: warcraft 3 18:15:51 <|amethyst> hmm 18:16:05 <|amethyst> actually, do zombies still have the maxhp thing? 18:16:09 <|amethyst> I know they have no-regen 18:16:13 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:16:19 didn't the necro army have some off-brand sort of healing in warcraft 3? 18:16:36 like, it was at least implied to be from the dark gods or whatever 18:16:40 i thought 18:16:46 i dont remember tbh 18:16:58 but i do remmeber some units healing skeleton summons when i really wanted them to heal other stuff 18:17:04 New branch created: pull/241 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/241 18:17:04 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/241 * 0.18-a0-1472-gf8e38dc: Confirm before abandoning your god when (p)raying. 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f8e38dcd02cc 18:17:06 |amethyst: they never show up as damaged 18:17:13 which i thought was done by adjusting maxhp 18:17:21 <|amethyst> it used to be 18:17:23 <|amethyst> aha 18:17:26 <|amethyst> %git 2ce9f7f 18:17:26 07MarvinPA02 * 0.16-a0-3917-g2ce9f7f: Don't allow zombies/skeletons to be healed 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2ce9f7f06c77 18:17:30 heh 18:20:17 -!- Guest50225 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:20:25 |amethyst: that's a weird if. shouldn't it be negated? 18:20:31 New branch created: pull/241 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/241 18:20:31 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/241 * 0.18-a0-1472-gf8e38dc: Confirm before abandoning your god when (p)raying. 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f8e38dcd02cc 18:20:38 monsters who *can't* display wounds shouldn't be healable, i would think 18:21:48 -!- WebFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:21:49 amalloy: look at the current code 18:22:12 (you're right, that commit was wrong & was fixed afterward) 18:22:22 * amalloy is a time-travelling code reviewer 18:22:59 %git 63a68a3404a5c02c3243853e456c3334452c05ee 18:22:59 07MarvinPA02 * 0.16-a0-3924-g63a68a3: Really don't allow zombies/skeletons to be healed 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63a68a3404a5 18:23:33 WebFungus: about #6511, i don't see any issue with forcing vaultmakers to use one of grey/gray 18:23:42 it's not like normal users are going to run into this 18:23:46 wheals: sure, but it'd be nice 18:24:00 iirc we support grey/gray for our c code? 18:24:05 unfortunately 18:24:07 haha 18:24:14 idk, close it if you prefer 18:24:16 not a big deal 18:24:19 it makes grepping harder, for one 18:24:28 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:24:33 gr[ea]y 18:24:36 looks like a ligature 18:24:46 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:24:48 that's 3 whole characters more!!! 18:24:50 græy 18:25:09 actually, just make neither grey nor gray valid. 18:25:23 græy is clearly superior to both. 18:25:44 gr*y 18:26:22 gr.y 18:26:59 when we add the new 'griy' player species, you'll be sorry!!! 18:27:19 hm, or maybe 'gruy'. kinda like the sound of that 18:27:59 gargoyle udder yak 18:28:48 sounds udderly revolting 18:28:48 ? 18:30:32 grue 18:33:37 just rename the colour 18:33:39 off-white 18:33:40 -!- shinino_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:33:55 off-white and off-black 18:34:46 -!- read is now known as owl 18:34:50 :< 18:36:42 less off-white and more off-white 18:39:02 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:43:22 -!- WebFungus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:44:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:45:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:45:39 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:45:47 -!- Blade- has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:46:10 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:46:24 approve my PR! 18:47:44 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:48:09 approve my PR! 18:48:10 oops 18:48:57 !never approve chequers's PR 18:49:08 isn't that a thing? 18:49:53 i think "an eudemon blade" sounds dumb, btw 18:50:13 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:29 on the grounds that if you spelled it "yudemon" you wouldn't put "an" in front 18:53:37 !always never approach chequers' PR 18:53:38 ANACP! A-Always! N-Never! A-Approach! C-Chequers'! P-PR! Always Never Approach Chequers' PR! ALWAYS NEVER APPROACH CHEQUERS' PR! 18:53:39 clearly it should just be angel blade 18:53:41 -!- eb has quit [] 18:53:42 amalloy: ^ 18:53:52 i like "eudemon" 18:53:57 wow, got some serious lysdexia today 18:54:01 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:54:07 "undemon" 18:54:20 an gel blade 18:55:28 it would be pretty simple to fix 18:55:35 though once we go down this rabbit hole... 19:00:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:00:26 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:14 i mean, if you're just claiming we should pronounce it "ay-oo-demon" 19:01:20 then all your problems are solved 19:01:36 also "fuck you, this is a pain in the ass" 19:01:43 03chequers02 07* 0.18-a0-1472-gf8e38dc: Confirm before abandoning your god when (p)raying. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f8e38dcd02cc 19:01:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1473-g3609211: Merge pull request #241 from alexjurkiewicz/abandon-confirmation 10(10 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/360921133081 19:01:51 it's "an eudemon blade" 19:02:37 eudemon, you de mon 19:02:43 aeioudemon blade 19:02:55 yeah 19:03:00 03chequers02 07* 0.18-a0-1472-gf8e38dc: Confirm before abandoning your god when (p)raying. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f8e38dcd02cc 19:03:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1473-g3609211: Merge pull request #241 from alexjurkiewicz/abandon-confirmation 10(87 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/360921133081 19:03:04 "a eudemon blade" seems right 19:03:22 -!- Shinino__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:03:58 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:05:16 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:11:27 thanks PF 19:12:17 -!- MarvinPA has left ##crawl-dev 19:17:13 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:18:07 -!- alvarops has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:19:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 19:19:49 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 19:20:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 19:24:16 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:24:46 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:33:56 -!- lobf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:35:22 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:36:12 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:37:36 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:38:24 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:40:00 -!- siepu_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:47:16 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:50:05 -!- jefus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:48 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:51:58 -!- jefus_ is now known as jefus 19:52:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:56:59 -!- AnotherFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:19 q: does praying at an altar currently do anything other than worship a god? are there any altar blessing type effects left? 19:58:11 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:58:40 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:00:27 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:39 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 20:04:09 i don't think so. if there are any they should be removed 20:04:24 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:06:18 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:19 The build passed. (betterwater - 63f80f0 #4949 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/112901428 20:06:19 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:07:16 amalloy: I was considering putting ally customization there, purely so it's not clogging up the ability menu all game 20:07:19 but if there's nothing else that does it 20:07:22 it wouldn't really be justifiable 20:07:29 ("does it" = "uses altar prayer") 20:08:57 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:11:03 -!- ArbitraryName has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:29 Hi, I'm looking to get involved in development. What do I do? 20:12:13 Lots of things! Are you interested in coding, designing 'vaults' (custom bits of a level), drawing art? 20:12:35 Shooting for coding and maybe a bit of map design 20:15:27 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:15:48 Well, there's always plenty of things to code. You could have a look at one of the 'implementables' on the bug tracker, mantis - those are mostly pretty technical, but could be useful for getting a hang on the codebase. Or you could try writing up your own monster, race, whatever - it probably won't get into the game, but it's a fun way to cut your teeth. 20:15:51 ??mantsi 20:15:52 mantsi ~ mantis[1/2]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 20:17:07 after clicking 'view issues', there's a dropdown near the top-right which has 'reset filter' in it - click that, choose 'implementables', then 'use filter'. 20:18:23 Ok, I'll give that a shot, thanks! 20:18:38 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/master/crawl-ref/docs/develop has a bunch of general development information, including some guides to making vaults (in the 'levels' folder). 20:18:48 feel free to ask questions if you run into anything! 20:19:12 Ok, deal! 20:21:28 PF: ancestor tiles 20:21:31 http://i.imgur.com/k8sLRbb.png 20:21:33 http://i.imgur.com/rTWbjGN.png 20:21:34 http://i.imgur.com/VuVd1PE.png 20:21:36 http://i.imgur.com/3ujH97b.png 20:21:56 dang... 20:22:06 knight & hexer are mega cool 20:22:21 esp hexer 20:22:42 :) 20:23:04 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:23:48 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:24:14 reminds me of http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r616/littlegizka/DotA%202%20Models/Death_Prophet.png 20:25:08 nice 20:25:22 spoopy 20:25:34 CanOfWorms: tell me what to do with pubby's gooe tile 20:25:40 gooe? 20:25:41 it's cool but I'm not sure it's better than the current tile 20:25:45 great orb of eyes 20:25:52 ArbitraryName: fwiw the way i encourage folks to get into the codebase is to just play the game, and if you see something you think could be improved, then you try to figure out how to make it happen 20:26:01 !bug 9606 20:26:01 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9606 20:26:03 ??amalloy todo[$ 20:26:04 amalloy todo[7/7]: upheaval targeter should be 3x3 (or 5x5), not 1x1 20:26:15 amalloy: doesn't it vary with invo? 20:26:19 I could swear it currently did 20:26:21 it used to 20:26:23 oh 20:26:24 interesting 20:26:29 but i played qaz today 20:26:31 and it's 1x1 20:26:41 while still hitting a larger area 20:26:52 hmm 20:26:53 wheals: you did something to targeters for stuff like apport, didn't you? 20:27:07 yeah 20:27:10 the upheaval targeter looks like a smite targeter now 20:27:14 wonder if those are related 20:27:17 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1522-g2637506: New ancestor tiles (CanOfWorms) 10(23 seconds ago, 4 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2637506d93ac 20:28:32 i mean it is correctly smite-targetable, but no longer shows the radius you'll be affecting: evena t 27 invo it's a single tile 20:28:35 PF: I think it'll be fine if the mouth is bigger and more obvious 20:28:57 possibly trim some eyes off to get a more circular silhouette 20:29:41 amalloy: in tiles? 20:29:47 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1522-g2637506: New ancestor tiles (CanOfWorms) 10(3 minutes ago, 4 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2637506d93ac 20:29:52 console at least 20:29:53 haven't tried tiles 20:30:05 amalloy: in tiles, i'm pretty sure the source tile is highlighted, and the 3x3 tiles are half brightness 20:30:25 &watchlink wizamalloy 20:30:26 http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-wizamalloy 20:30:41 !tell |amethyst something odd is going on with chei - each commit shows up twice in the irc logs, but only once (late) in-channel 20:30:41 AnotherFungus: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 20:30:54 chequers: not anymore 20:31:07 like this is not a FR, this is a thing that used to work but no longer does 20:31:07 CanOfWorms: imo leave a comment to that effect 20:31:09 <_< 20:31:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:31:59 i just feel bad about letting contributions languish 20:32:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 20:34:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 20:35:52 -!- lnt_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:36:00 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1604-g3fcbbfe: Merge branch 'master' into combo_god 10(14 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3fcbbfe36acc 20:40:00 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1604-g3fcbbfe: Merge branch 'master' into combo_god 10(4 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3fcbbfe36acc 20:44:30 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:45:58 amalloy: dang 20:46:32 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:47:32 oh 20:47:35 amalloy: I know what it is 20:48:44 amalloy: nevermind. 20:49:56 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:50:47 oh 20:50:49 man 20:50:51 this is dumb 20:50:55 ? 20:51:10 seems i just deleted the line that set the targetter as the hitfunc 20:51:11 -!- Turgor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:51:24 -!- Turgor_ is now known as Turgor 20:52:05 %git 620ab6a06c44675ebb8db2a9ff5216c0a5863d4e 20:52:05 07wheals02 * 0.18-a0-855-g620ab6a: Change spell_direction to take a direction_chooser_args. 10(2 months ago, 9 files, 107+ 109-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/620ab6a06c44 20:52:35 and... apparently unused local warnings don't exist? 20:53:32 what's the unused? 20:54:24 oh, tgt? 20:55:16 yeah 20:56:22 -!- } has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:58:30 PF: comment added 20:58:31 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:58:41 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:59:09 -!- spooncolony has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:59:10 CanOfWorms: ty! 20:59:42 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:59:44 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:59:50 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 21:00:31 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:13 btw i guess i'm going to merge the beogh thing 21:01:29 !resurrect wheals 21:05:42 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:06:20 -!- spooncolony has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:07:35 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1474-gc16bf92: Add a 6* Beogh ability, Resurrection. 10(6 weeks ago, 11 files, 119+ 31-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c16bf92a8cfb 21:07:35 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1475-g6e20f5a: Remove Beogh corpse sacrifice; increase piety gain from priests. 10(2 weeks ago, 4 files, 3+ 71-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e20f5a89768 21:07:35 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1476-g7d618d4: Refactor for item sacrifice removal. 10(2 weeks ago, 20 files, 107+ 678-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7d618d4b46c2 21:07:35 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1477-g4275512: Hopefully fix some crashes. 10(2 weeks ago, 2 files, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/42755125d101 21:07:35 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1478-gbc8a2b6: Allow choosing between corpses on the same square (chequers). 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 6+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bc8a2b66c16a 21:07:35 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1479-g3ad95a0: Add ontoclasm's tile for Resurrection. 10(7 days ago, 3 files, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3ad95a03b494 21:07:35 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1480-gf51ec09: Improve messaging. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f51ec0939b8c 21:07:35 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1481-g708b138: Fix the Upheaval targgeter (amalloy). 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/708b13820718 21:08:04 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:08:04 aw, no rebase? 21:08:11 7d618d4 will cause merge conflicts for the god branches 21:08:12 woo! 21:08:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:08:20 !rebase wheals 21:08:21 Grunt rebases wheals. Wheals is banished to the reflog! 21:08:31 this is a rebase, but it could have been squashed better 21:08:44 !squash wheals 21:08:58 ...like an orc! 21:09:02 !learn del amalloy_todo[$ 21:09:03 Deleted amalloy todo[7/7]: upheaval targeter should be 3x3 (or 5x5), not 1x1 21:09:26 deleted branch resurrection 21:09:26 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1474-gc16bf92: Add a 6* Beogh ability, Resurrection. 10(6 weeks ago, 11 files, 119+ 31-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c16bf92a8cfb 21:09:26 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1475-g6e20f5a: Remove Beogh corpse sacrifice; increase piety gain from priests. 10(2 weeks ago, 4 files, 3+ 71-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e20f5a89768 21:09:26 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1476-g7d618d4: Refactor for item sacrifice removal. 10(2 weeks ago, 20 files, 107+ 678-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7d618d4b46c2 21:09:26 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1477-g4275512: Hopefully fix some crashes. 10(2 weeks ago, 2 files, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/42755125d101 21:09:26 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1478-gbc8a2b6: Allow choosing between corpses on the same square (chequers). 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 6+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bc8a2b66c16a 21:09:26 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1479-g3ad95a0: Add ontoclasm's tile for Resurrection. 10(7 days ago, 3 files, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3ad95a03b494 21:09:26 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1480-gf51ec09: Improve messaging. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f51ec0939b8c 21:09:26 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1481-g708b138: Fix the Upheaval targgeter (amalloy). 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/708b13820718 21:09:42 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 21:09:43 also rimedrake and rimewurm 21:10:03 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:10:04 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:11:40 delete wheals 21:11:41 imo 21:12:05 same 21:12:38 !hs . beogh 21:12:39 30. wheals the Severer (L19 HOPr of Beogh), blasted by a dragon (blast of flame) on Vaults:5 on 2012-08-08 15:00:29, with 183837 points after 47520 turns and 5:39:58. 21:12:42 guess i should beat this 21:12:42 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:12:56 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:13:03 * AnotherFungus beats wheals like a drum!!! 21:13:07 hm 21:13:12 time to do the needful 21:13:14 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:13:16 -!- AnotherFungus is now known as PleasingFungus 21:13:26 aaaaaaaaa 21:13:26 PleasingFungus: You have 21 messages. Use !messages to read them. 21:13:41 !tell PleasingFungus No messages for PleasingFungus. 21:13:41 wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 21:13:49 :( 21:13:49 PleasingFungus: You have 21 messages. Use !messages to read them. 21:14:12 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:43 !messages 21:15:44 (1/1) wheals said (2m 2s ago): No messages for PleasingFungus. 21:15:47 free 21:16:52 but for how long... 21:17:08 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:17:33 Trapped In Hell, For-Ever. 21:19:22 no attomycetes in our future? 21:19:57 Who can say what the future may bring? 21:20:09 does PleasingFungus: You have 21 messages. Use !messages to read them. 21:20:15 annoy you? 21:20:31 i'd been feeling kind of buried by h feedback. but i'm better now 21:20:35 i have something close to a plan 21:20:37 momentum is all I need! 21:20:45 /timer repeat 43200 86400 ... 21:20:51 ? 21:21:03 just going to give you periodic feedback 21:21:06 ha 21:21:59 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:25:08 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:27:09 !messages 21:27:09 No messages for ontoclasm. 21:27:19 * ontoclasm sobs quietly 21:28:03 !massage ontoclasm 21:28:31 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:30:51 -!- molotove has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:31:27 what are your H plans fungus 21:31:28 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:33:40 Lightli: dramatically simplify deathswap effects; either make them on-death only, or remove them entirely. rethink the set of effects in the former case. probably weaken ancestor offense generally & make romanticize give a temporary attack buff. 21:34:19 i.e. make the ancestor less capable of winning the game by itself 21:34:24 something like that. 21:34:33 what about ally exp 21:34:45 who cares about ally xp. 21:38:41 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:41:35 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 21:41:46 ! 21:41:50 maybe romanticise could give much bigger bonus for much more piety 21:41:51 |amethyst: If a game is giving over ssh "Another game is in progress using this save" 21:42:16 |amethyst: Is there no way for the player to cause the process to die; just has to wait for N minutes? 21:42:23 like, I feel the bonus is not super noticeable, and romanticise seems really cheap so it's vaguely badcharm-like? 21:42:25 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:42:31 hung game for comborobin15 (hurricos) 21:43:11 I have the account password but it's the same message for me 21:43:17 chequers: sure. here's something that vaguely worries me: if it's more expensive, it should probably be the 5* unlock, not the 3* one. but then - if we're also nerfing ancestor offense without romance on - your ancestor wouldn't really do that much until you hit 5*. 21:44:18 how much are you planning to nerf it by 21:44:24 v0v 21:44:35 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:44:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:55 haven't even decided how, exactly. like, how do you nerf spell offense? obvious approach is to reduce hd, but that would require rebalancing everything else about their progression 21:45:06 could just give them weaker spells 21:45:09 remember monster::spell_hd 21:45:18 you can specifically tweak their spellpower without changing other aspects 21:45:27 or compensate by reducing their defenses 21:45:31 in grunt voice: "i love special cases" 21:45:41 Lightli: they're *already* glass cannons!!! 21:45:52 then why nerf their offensive damage output 21:45:56 ??ancestor 21:45:56 ancestor[1/6]: A permanent companion granted by {Hepliaklqana}. Scales with the player's XL. Can be specialized into one of three types: Knight ([3]), Battlemage ([4]), or Hexer ([5]). 21:45:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:46:00 ??ancestor [4] 21:46:00 ancestor[4/6]: Battlemage: conjurer companion. Starts with a quarterstaff and magic dart; knows up to 2 conjurations (drops lowest). HD 3: Throw Frost. HD 6: Stone Arrow. HD 8: Throw Icicle. HD 10: Bolt of Magma. HD 13: Iron Shot. HD 16: Corrosive Bolt. HD 18: Crystal Spear. 21:46:21 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:46:27 |amethyst: seems like it timed out on its own, and the timeout isn't too high, so I think that question answered itself 21:46:30 -!- gammafunk has left ##crawl-dev 21:47:10 spell_hd is probably the simplest approach, but i'll grumble about it. 21:47:47 my 2c: you're creating an actor unlike any other in the game (single permally), so it's not too surprising it needs special cases 21:48:40 ya 21:48:42 but there are so many already! 21:49:00 tens of thousands! millions! 21:49:15 can't argue with the facts 21:49:46 :P 21:50:02 i'm going to implement some proceduralism now 21:50:08 ahh 21:50:16 do you want to talk more about it first? 21:50:24 or just go gung-ho and talk after you hash something out on your own? 21:50:26 only if you feel up to it 21:50:48 i don't want to code something you won't accept, for sure 21:50:55 so probably talk first, then :) 21:51:03 what's your current plan? 21:51:06 @??ancestor hd:12 21:51:06 unknown monster: "ancestor" 21:51:13 Lightli: not in trunk! 21:51:19 oops 21:51:25 I wanted each character to be unique, so I was thinking one choice per ally: knights get to pick from two randart weapons, battlemages get to pick their top spell, hexers get either a weapon or spell 21:51:31 *I want 21:52:09 what are you thinking wrt top spell options for battlemages? 21:52:27 nfi. bmage i played the least 21:52:46 haha 21:52:54 probably lcs vs, like, a similar level aoe 21:52:59 is there a l7 glaciate? 21:53:06 corrosive bolt is the current top aoe effect for battlemage 21:53:19 man, you should know that level 7 spells don't exist. 21:53:30 I'd probably go corrosive bolt between it and LCS 21:53:32 really?? 21:53:36 ??level 7 spells 21:53:36 I don't have a page labeled level_7_spells in my learndb. Did you mean: level_8_spells, level_9_spells. 21:53:45 wtf, I thought that was a joke 21:53:48 ??level 8 spells 21:53:49 level 8 spells[1/1]: disjunction, death's door, lehudib's crystal spear, summon horrible things, borgnjor's revivification, necromutation, chain lightning, discord, controlled blink 21:53:54 chequers: it's not 100% true 21:54:00 but there are very few 21:54:21 ??level 6 spells 21:54:21 I don't have a page labeled level_6_spells in my learndb. Did you mean: level_8_spells, level_9_spells. 21:54:29 :rolleyes: 21:54:46 discord, perhaps 21:54:46 IOOD, delayed fireball, ring of flames, several summon spells... 21:54:50 yeah 21:54:55 bit close to hexer though 21:55:09 discord would be hexer yeah 21:55:16 also it's a very bad spell for an ally 21:55:40 part of me wants to do another Hep win before the ancestors get nerfed, but CAO won't track it 21:56:02 joke option: spellforged servitor 21:56:11 serious opinion: it would be fine to have an lcs / corrosive bolt choice 21:56:37 I was hoping for something more AOE-ey, but that might be as AOE-ey as i can get 21:56:41 I mean 21:56:48 level 7 aoe spell: orb of electricity 21:56:52 but that would be totally useless on an ally 21:56:59 because they would never ever be able to cast it without hitting you 21:57:01 totally hilarious 21:57:20 moving on 21:57:25 ok, well i'll implement those two for bmage, can tweak 21:57:48 for hexer, i was thinking pain brand / current top spell 21:57:51 hm 21:57:55 pain brand seems really bad as a final brand 21:58:06 since it's almost useless in extended 21:58:11 hexer gets antimagic at HD18 21:58:16 Lightli: yes 21:58:18 for a reason 21:58:26 but we're discussing a possible replacement for that 21:58:26 oh sorry, yes antimagic 21:59:03 the reason they have that is because I was very concerned about their hexes scaling into extended 21:59:10 even the aoe ones 21:59:21 spell_hd! :D 21:59:22 especially since iirc they don't get the power boost that player hexes do? (not sure, need to check) 21:59:33 chequers............... 21:59:36 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:59:56 anyway, if you like the idea, exactly what is given can be changed later 22:00:15 well, the options are actually pretty limited for hexer 22:00:25 not that many hexes out there 22:00:27 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:32 but we can give this a shot 22:00:46 knight: talk to me about your randart plan 22:01:06 generate two (or more??) randarts, give the player a choice of which to give their knight 22:01:20 are you worried about a high potential for no-brainer choices? 22:01:28 especially given how many randart props are gonna be irrelevant for these guys 22:01:58 you can fix the base types to reduce no brainerism, but I am worried that someone will think slay+12 will help their knight 22:02:09 or str+12, if slay works on monsters 22:02:20 what happened to your idea of choosing between weapon types? 22:02:37 that's what I meant by "fixing the base types". One randart broad axe, one randart glaive 22:02:46 why do randarts have to be involved? 22:02:51 and how does a glaive work with a shield? 22:03:08 shield would vanish 22:03:32 seems like demon trident would be better. 22:03:43 I wanted randarts so each ally would be ~unique~, although I didn't think of a good way to make the other ally types similarly unique 22:04:04 i think it would probably be better to stick with completely generic items. 22:04:10 abstractions. 22:04:44 fair enough. idm dtrident, but I think the people choosing polearm would be doing so with the assumption their ally would never be hit 22:05:08 -!- banksy[Away] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:06:06 definitely would be a more dramatic choice 22:06:16 sort of funny to have all the shield progression (type, ego) and then ditch it at the end 22:07:01 yeah.. that would have to change 22:07:20 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:07:24 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:09 well, whadaaya think? 22:08:49 sure, let's give it a shot. 22:10:49 :) 22:12:21 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:12:35 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:40 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:13:46 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:14:55 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:15:04 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 22:16:42 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 22:20:01 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:21:02 -!- HarryHood has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:24:39 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 22:25:31 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 22:31:40 -!- hurricos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:35:08 hm, I guess this feels a lot like just another ancestor type choice 22:35:42 remember ancestor: Knight (polearms), Knight (axes), Battlemage (aoe), Battlemage (lcs), Hexer (quickblade), Hexer (mass confusion) 22:36:04 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:36:14 maybe the unlock should be randomly chosen for you 22:43:04 hep, the god of content that is randomly unavailable to you 22:44:35 at least the deathswap 3/5 choice isn't until the player is already somewhat invested in the character. if you make an arbitrary decision like that early, players are going to startscum it if they don't get "the one true ancestor type", whatever that is 22:45:34 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:46:26 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:47:01 well, the ability was originally envisioned as a capstone 22:47:03 so after death type 22:47:37 anyway, I don't think players mind or even heavily scum things that the TOP would startscum 22:47:46 see the enormous popularity of demonspawn 22:48:13 -!- spooncolony has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:48:19 maybe because just about all ds muts are good 22:48:46 nah, people will still scum for the muts they specifically want 22:49:25 well people will scum for any reason 22:49:39 !won meow 22:49:40 meow has won 3 times in 22546 games (0.01%): 1xFeAr 1xHECr 1xMfWz 22:49:43 !won sebi 22:49:44 sebi has not won in 106100 games. 22:50:00 getting back to my point, scumming isn't really a concern 22:51:29 like, the ecu altar is a d:2/3 spawn, and has a quit-after-use rate of 10% 22:51:36 which is about 5x higher than baseline 22:51:45 Ds is about 3x higher 22:53:52 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:57:41 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:00:04 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:00:27 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:35 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 23:02:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 23:04:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:05:08 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:09:58 !lm 23:09:58 11475. [2016-03-02 04:04:53] chequers the Cleaver (L8 HOFi of Beogh) entered the Ecumenical Temple on turn 4343. (D:6) 23:10:16 erolcha cast me into abyss:2 on d:8 23:10:29 surely this is too cruel for an early banishment 23:12:10 @??erolcha 23:12:10 Erolcha (12O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 44-61 | AC/EV: 5/7 | Dam: 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 997 | Sp: b.venom (3d11), mystic blast (3d12), invisibility, confuse, slow / crystal spear (3d23), blink, b.fire (3d14), b.cold (3d14) / magic dart (3d4), paralyse, haste, b.lightning (3d14), confuse / paralyse, throw flame (3d6), invisibility, fireball (3d14).. 23:12:48 deep banishment is a slippery slope. devs are gradually edging it towards banishing everyone to abyss:5 every time 23:13:15 for comparison i got banished to abyss:2 by a deep elf demonologist, i think 23:13:18 -!- Turgor has quit [] 23:13:35 the formula is pretty grainy 23:13:41 erolcha will banish you to a:1 or a:2 23:13:48 but the chance is uniform among floors 23:14:22 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:14:24 @??ancient lich 23:14:24 ancient lich (00L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 90-126 | AC/EV: 20/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 8650 | Sp: (random) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:14:53 @??deep elf demonologist 23:14:53 deep elf demonologist (08e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 45-64 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 12 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, unholy, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 1316 | Sp: sum.demon, sum.greater demon, banishment | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:15:33 looks like i need to process logfiles to get the banisher/banish level right now 23:16:36 -!- Naruni has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:17:19 %git 6107383 23:17:19 07ebering02 {wheals} * 0.18-a0-287-g6107383: Track power of successful banishment. 10(5 months ago, 11 files, 36+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/610738336285 23:21:45 !lm . banishment 23:21:46 51. [2016-02-29 06:46:09] amalloy the Warrior (L18 DsNe of Ashenzari) was cast into the Abyss! (a deep elf demonologist) (WizLab) 23:22:17 oh yeah, that was a fun little nesting set of branches. dungeon orc elf wizlab abyss 23:22:19 -!- jspengler has quit [] 23:22:29 and it was even an elf in the wizlab 23:23:53 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:26:53 -!- lnt_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:26:58 i think part of the problem with this change is that it assumes every level of abyss is uniformly more dangerous 23:27:10 and that banishment at low XL is currently too survivable 23:27:17 ebering: defend yourself! 23:27:54 vault warden banishes to depth 3 or 4 heh 23:28:39 VW to 3/4 seems reasonable to me, really 23:29:07 !lm * current br.enter=vaults x=avg(xl) 23:29:09 11543 milestones for * (current br.enter=vaults): avg(xl)=19.01 23:29:36 yeah, that's not so bad i guess. just higher than most elves 23:29:46 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:29:50 deep elves seem to be 2-3 23:29:54 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 23:30:09 pan lords 3-5 23:31:11 guess you could say this is just uniques working as intended 23:31:34 i dunno, i think A:2 from erolcha is just rubbing salt in the wound 23:31:47 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:31:54 what is abyss, btw? J? i never remember 23:32:02 ditto 23:32:42 what I'd really like to do is halve spawn rate on a:1, reduce it by a bit on a:2, and make the rune only space on a:4/5 23:33:02 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:33:43 could combogod be rebased 23:33:53 needs a merge, wheals said 23:34:02 into trunk? 23:34:09 ya 23:34:29 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 23:35:05 -!- Krenium has quit [] 23:35:26 -!- Lasty_1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:35:46 I was asking because bolt of cold is currently bugged to be useless 23:37:50 -!- Franz__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:37:53 -!- tealeaves has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:40:11 like it does 0 damage, or what? 23:40:29 does the damage monster version does 23:40:40 Lightli: you could just cherry-pick 600d0f4 into combo_god 23:40:48 I would if I had any idea how to do that 23:40:58 git checkout combo_god ; git cherry-pick 600d0f4 ; git push 23:41:16 doesn't matter I splatted on purpose 23:41:22 kk 23:41:34 %git 600d0f4 23:41:34 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1465-g600d0f4: Fix Bolt of Cold damage/acc (dude679) 10(24 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/600d0f4a5ca6 23:41:36 just want it in trunk so I can win it for real 23:42:08 that's already in master 23:45:38 I know, I mean the god 23:45:54 yeah! if beogh resurrection can get in, so can H! 23:45:58 PleasingFungus: I believe in you!! 23:46:07 haha 23:46:09 i don't think H is getting mainlined in a big hurry 23:46:17 I know 23:46:34 <|amethyst> I once saw a movie about mainlining H in a big hurry 23:46:34 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 23:46:35 the main reason not to is concern over backwards compatibility if it's eventually not merged, right? 23:46:48 <|amethyst> _Requiem for a Dream_ I think it was 23:47:11 are you saying remembering my forebears will result in my arm being cut off 23:47:11 <|amethyst> chequers: also that we don't want an incomplete god going into 0.18 23:47:23 chequers: I don't think there's anything wrong with it being another type choice (subtype choice, perhaps), but it's sort of odd if it's based on piety rather than xl - you'd choose your top-level spell when you were xl 14 or w/e? 23:47:26 wasn't it the case for 0.15 that gozag was in the source but disabled? 23:47:58 <|amethyst> yeah, that's a possibility, and happened with Ash too 23:48:00 PleasingFungus: yeah, agree it would be an XL-triggered ability 23:48:15 <|amethyst> but it's still more of a pain to do that than simply not to have the god in at all 23:48:23 <|amethyst> With Gozag we thought we might have it ready in time 23:48:33 the main advantage of merged-but-disabled is to avoid git drift, right? 23:48:36 <|amethyst> with H we're pretty sure it won't be 23:48:36 ??0.18 tournament 23:48:37 I don't have a page labeled 0.18_tournament in my learndb. 23:48:51 when is 0.18 planned for release 23:48:55 ??plan 23:48:55 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:release_plans 23:49:00 <|amethyst> amalloy: and to let people play it on more servers 23:49:22 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: not sure about the chei thing, no time to look until Friday at least 23:49:26 it's easier to run a server with a boolean flag toggled than to just run a different branch? 23:49:54 <|amethyst> amalloy: oh, disabled in trunk too 23:50:10 <|amethyst> amalloy: I was thinking disabled for release but present in trunk 23:50:14 i see 23:50:44 i wasn't sure what was done with gozag/ash so didn't realize what you meant 23:51:01 yeah, personally I don't spend a lot of time playing experimental branches online since they aren't scored 23:51:04 and dcss score is life 23:51:06 <|amethyst> Ash was pre-git, right? 23:51:28 ash was pre-me 23:51:35 <|amethyst> in the case of Ash it might just have been that no one wanted the hassle of making a branch 23:51:36 which is the only metric that matters 23:51:40 git-drift sounds like one of those procedurally generated fake git commands 23:51:55 * amalloy remembers the bad old days of cvs 23:51:57 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 23:52:04 <|amethyst> git-apply-coalescent-model 23:52:09 <|amethyst> git-phylogeny 23:52:19 three people at the company who were capable of merging a branch, and it would take any of them a full day or two 23:52:42 <|amethyst> amalloy: this was SVN so better than that, but still not as simple as git 23:52:46 yeah 23:52:51 i only used svn for a year 23:55:49 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:55:50 <|amethyst> (crawl in svn was before my time too, but I still maintain an svn repository at work, and since there are never more than two or three devs at the same time, it hasn't been worth the effort to convert) 23:56:41 <|amethyst> ("at the same time" = "during the same year", almost never are people working on it simultaneously) 23:57:30 <|amethyst> anyway, time for me to get some sleep so I can finish LaTeXing this presentation in the morning 23:57:39 <|amethyst> it's job interview week 23:58:44 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]