00:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07:01 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 00:09:12 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:09:17 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:11 i feel like the ant vault should have a reward in the same way the bee vault does 00:13:16 but what would ants have? 00:14:02 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:14:07 hi PF 00:14:22 hi 00:14:25 did I miss anything good 00:14:27 how goes the finetuning of allygod 00:14:59 when OgBe is gifted a mace i should be given an opportunity for no-fault abandonment 00:15:33 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:15:37 your honour, trog is manifestly inadequate at looking after my adventurer needs, and I'd like to apply for an Apprehended Wrath Order 00:15:51 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1347-gb9e2fb4 (34) 00:16:20 I was hanging out with an old friend who I hadn't seen in some time 00:16:27 I'm currently thinking about abyss and pan 00:16:54 the behavior there right now is that, if you get caught in an abyss shift, your ancestor will be lost forever [and won't respawn, because the game won't remove it from the companion list] 00:17:02 I'm trying to decide what the simplest, rightest behavior is 00:17:19 must have been a boring friend 00:17:26 -!- hypermatt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:17:35 oh yeah 00:17:38 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:17:44 I just realized a problem with permanently hasting the ancestor 00:17:47 & also what's going on with 00:17:58 !source mon-death.cc:2566 00:17:59 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-death.cc#l2566 00:18:00 what happens if it gets dispelled 00:18:06 hm 00:18:17 !source mon-death.cc:2603 00:18:18 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-death.cc#l2603 00:18:19 rather 00:18:37 the MF_BANISHED check doesn't seem to actually work, and I don't know why KILL_RESET is excluded... 00:18:49 Stable (0.17) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17.1-3-g152610e 00:19:03 PleasingFungus: Wouldn't that also apply if the ancestor was banished itself? 00:19:03 for pan/abyss it seems most logical to me for the ancestor to count as 'despawned' 00:19:36 is the ally god on a server right now? 00:19:47 no 00:20:04 I await the moment it hits trunk (or at least an experimental) 00:20:33 johnstei is the cbro guy, right? 00:20:38 or johnstein or someone 00:20:45 idk 00:20:45 johnstein 00:20:49 !seen Lasty 00:20:49 I last saw Lasty at Wed Feb 17 03:30:14 2016 UTC (1h 50m 33s ago) joining the channel. 00:21:37 he's almost certainly going to end up merging U before I merge H, so keeping them both in one branch would be a pain... not insurmountable tho 00:21:46 if I really wanted to, I could add H to his branch right now 00:23:20 imo make a distinct branch for the combination of the two 00:23:37 !source abyss_teleport 00:23:37 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/abyss.cc#l1619 00:24:00 -!- FIQ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:02 Grunt: my thought was that I'd branch off the current U branch to save its current state, and then merge H in 00:24:09 to avoid having to bother anyone about getting it on the server 00:24:21 also plausible 00:24:58 ack, goto 00:25:06 -!- hypermatt has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:19 hm 00:26:50 -!- nomicflux has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:28:42 Grunt: here's a fun puzzle for you to ponder 00:29:33 for horrible reasons, most monster enchantments have their power multiplied by ENCH_POW_FACTOR, and then divided out at time of use 00:30:10 e.g. SPELL_SENTINEL_MARK, SPELL_MASS_CONFUSION, SPELL_CONFUSION_GAZE, etc - see _mons_power_hd_factor(), called by mons_power_for_hd() 00:30:11 but 00:30:18 some, e.g. SPELL_CONFUSE< do not 00:30:54 what's with that? 00:30:55 -!- neongrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:31:26 I don't even remember this existing 00:31:28 let me investigate 00:31:56 I say to you: 00:31:58 !seen johnstein 00:31:58 Sorry johnstein, that person is dead. 00:32:00 %git 20e6238 00:32:00 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-3256-g20e6238: Factor out more spellpowers 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 2 files, 10+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/20e6238a5580 00:32:01 you tell me 00:32:22 helpally god experimental needed soon? 00:32:22 gasp 00:32:33 ??helpal 00:32:33 hepliaklqana[1/2]: God of ancestral memory. Grants a powerful, customizable permanent ally, which will be automatically revived if slain (after a delay dependent on piety). Likes exploration, hates felids. 0*: ally & recall, 2*: {Remember Life}, 3*: {Romanticize}, 5*: {Transference}, 6*: {Remember Death} 00:32:50 kikubaaquada 00:32:52 ??kiku 00:32:52 kikubaaqudgha[1/5]: God of necromantic awesomeness. Grants necromancy {kiku randbook}s at 1 and 3 stars, and at 6 stars, will either pain-brand a weapon or grant you the Necronomicon (only one of the two) at an altar. Provides corpses, invocable torment, torment protection, and blocks necromancy miscast effects. 00:33:00 close 00:33:00 hep for short 00:33:02 ??hep 00:33:02 I don't have a page labeled hep in my learndb. Did you mean: he, help, hp, hexes. 00:33:09 !learn add hep see {hepliaklqana} 00:33:09 hep[1/1]: see {hepliaklqana} 00:33:15 johnstein: I'm thinking about pulling H into the U branch 00:33:32 hm 00:33:37 hm?? 00:33:37 now I'm trying to decide on my own reasoning 00:33:37 <|amethyst> hm 00:33:55 PleasingFungus: the last time we had two gods ready at roughly the same time we tested them on the same branch 00:33:58 yeah 00:34:08 I guess it makes it easier to find one of the two 00:34:13 yes 00:34:15 right. 00:34:28 johnstein: anyway, I guess you might want to rename the branch on your server when I do that? 00:35:00 yeah, you definitely would 00:35:10 I assumed it was just called 'combogod' for some reason 00:35:15 which would be closer to right :) 00:35:29 ??kikubaaqudgha[$ 00:35:29 kiku randbook[1/2]: First book: One of (Pain, Animate Skeleton); Corpse Rot; Sublimation of Blood (replaced by the other level 1 if you cannot use it); one of (Regeneration, Vampiric Draining); Control Undead. (But you will never get a spell you can't cast due to your species.) 00:35:32 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:32 nice 00:38:42 what it is 00:40:24 how close is hepliakqana or however you spell it to done 00:41:00 it's feature complete 00:41:04 needs testing tho 00:41:07 more testing 00:41:34 I'm pretty sure it's terribly balanced and will probably have some dramatic changes before it's done 00:42:41 isn't that what experimentals are for? 00:43:20 How do conjurer ancestors compare to a spellforged servitor, and knight ancestors to a beoghite orc warlord? 00:43:52 Xenobreeder: caster ancestors have haste and other stuff as well as conjurations 00:43:56 Lightli: yes 00:44:21 worth noting that spellforged servitors can via amnesia usage and proper spell memorization be made to only cast LCS 00:44:26 @??spellforged servitor 00:44:26 spellforged servitor (138) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 64-97 | AC/EV: 10/10 | 11non-living, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 0 | Sz: Medium | Int: brainless. 00:44:29 PleasingFungus: i can easily put it on CPO but I think latency is too high for you 00:44:33 and that warlords can be given a gift 00:44:41 (also you can have multiple warlords) 00:44:42 haha 00:44:43 probably 00:44:55 I'm worried that swap doesn't make sense as an ability 00:44:59 ask john*tein 00:45:14 PleasingFungus: how do you mean? 00:45:18 I wanted something to really let you play with positioning 00:45:42 but the ancestor is gonna be charging into melee, since it has monster AI - so if you're also melee, you're gonna be right next to it most of the time 00:46:03 how about an ability that lets you cblink your ancestor wherever you want it 00:46:13 Lightli, yes. That's why I want to know if this god will be worth it, or just plain worse than the other options. 00:46:15 and does the death thing there 00:46:52 Xenobreeder: beogh warlords die 00:47:02 the ancestor comes back automatically 00:47:10 you could use it with the caster ancestor to keep it out of melee range? 00:47:11 this alone makes it miles better imo 00:47:35 knight ancestors are hilariously hard to kill though 00:47:39 @??orc warlord 00:47:39 orc warlord (11o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 93-130 | AC/EV: 12/7 | Dam: 32 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 1660 | Sp: battlecry [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:47:51 sure, that too 00:47:59 (i haven't tried it yet) 00:48:08 well from what I've read in the commits 00:48:19 at the cap of 18 HD (i.e. XL27): 00:48:50 120 HP, 32 AC, 10 EV, a large shield, rF+ and rC+, and wielding a broad axe of speed 00:48:52 with the ability to haste itself 00:49:11 ??porcupine 00:49:11 porcupine[1/1]: Polearms 27 title. Also a monster. 00:49:16 porcupine (02r) | Spd: 12 | HD: 4 | HP: 10-24 | AC/EV: 2/12 08(spiny 5d4) | Dam: 16 | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 142 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 00:49:16 %??porcupine 00:49:18 Sounds decent enough. What about the casters? 00:49:20 and spines 00:49:26 ??battlemage 00:49:27 battlemage[1/8]: BATTLEMAGE 00:49:31 hm 00:49:33 ??ancestor 00:49:34 I don't have a page labeled ancestor in my learndb. 00:49:39 ??hepliaklqana 00:49:40 hepliaklqana[1/2]: God of ancestral memory. Grants a powerful, customizable permanent ally, which will be automatically revived if slain (after a delay dependent on piety). Likes exploration, hates felids. 0*: ally & recall, 2*: {Remember Life}, 3*: {Romanticize}, 5*: {Transference}, 6*: {Remember Death} 00:49:50 ??remember life 00:49:50 Remember Life[1/1]: Hepliaklqana 2* ability. Choose one of three classes for your ancestor: Knight (tough melee, eventually gets cleaving), Battlemage (conjurations), Hexer (various hexes, eventually gets an antimagic qblade). Choice is permanent, even after abandoning and rejoining. 00:49:56 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1388-g12e747a: Remove piety scaling from ancestor respawn 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/12e747a04565 00:49:56 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1389-g9002356: Cleanup ancestors properly 10(30 seconds ago, 2 files, 7+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/90023569f74c 00:50:01 oh fine don't tell me then 00:50:03 ontoclasm: ? 00:50:09 oh, dear 00:50:17 18 HD battlemages are 120 HP, 18 AC, 10 EV, still rF+ and rC+, and will be tossing around either LCS or corrosive bolt 00:50:26 I didn't even think that I'd end up conflicting with the fabled BATTLEMAGE entry... 00:50:46 @??goblin hd:18 spells:lehudib's_crystal_spear.40.wizard,corrosive_bolt.40.wizard 00:50:46 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 59-83 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | XP: 1504 | Sp: crystal spear (3d37) | Sz: small | Int: human. 00:50:47 learn add battlemage_ancestor 00:50:48 imo redesign whole god from scratch 00:50:54 @??goblin hd:18 spells:lcorrosive_bolt.40.wizard,ehudib's_crystal_spear.40.wizard 00:50:55 Unknown spell name: 'lcorrosive bolt' in 'lcorrosive_bolt.40.wizard,ehudib's_crystal_spear.40.wizard' 00:50:57 fuck 00:50:59 w/e 00:51:26 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:51:41 rF gloves and rC cloak please me to no end, PleasingFungus 00:51:51 should also mention that knights wear banded mail 00:51:53 !learn add ancestor A permanent companion granted by {Hepliaklqana}. Scales with the player's XL. Can be specialized into one of three types: Knight ([2]), Battlemage ([3]), or Hexer ([4]). 00:51:53 ancestor[1/1]: A permanent companion granted by {Hepliaklqana}. Scales with the player's XL. Can be specialized into one of three types: Knight ([2]), Battlemage ([3]), or Hexer ([4]). 00:51:58 ontoclasm: oh, I like that 00:52:53 hm 00:53:42 shame the knight uses an axe 00:53:52 otherwise he could swing around a katana! 00:54:38 !learn add Ancestor HD = (player XL - 1)*2/3 + 1. HP = hd * 5 + max(0, (hd - 12) * 5). MR = hd*hd/2. Base AC = HD. Base damage = HD*3/2 + 3. 00:54:39 ancestor[2/2]: HD = (player XL - 1)*2/3 + 1. HP = hd * 5 + max(0, (hd - 12) * 5). MR = hd*hd/2. Base AC = HD. Base damage = HD*3/2 + 3. 00:55:24 I did notice that this god works best with fast leveling races 00:55:36 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:55:41 !learn e ancestor[2 s/$/ Gains rF at HD 11, rC at HD 12, Haste at HD 14, and sInv at HD 16. 00:55:42 ancestor[2/2]: HD = (player XL - 1)*2/3 + 1. HP = hd * 5 + max(0, (hd - 12) * 5). MR = hd*hd/2. Base AC = HD. Base damage = HD*3/2 + 3. Gains rF at HD 11, rC at HD 12, Haste at HD 14, and sInv at HD 16. 00:55:43 finally 00:55:46 a bonafide Hu reason 00:55:48 haha 00:55:53 respect your ancestors! 00:56:20 !apt exp 00:56:21 Exp: Ha: 1!, Fo: 1!, Hu: 1!, Ko: 1!, HO: 0, Og: 0, VS: 0, Na: 0, Te: 0, Gh: 0, Mf: 0, Op: 0, Gr: 0, Ds: -1, Ce: -1, Dr: -1, Fe: -1, Sp: -1, DE: -1, Vp: -1, HE: -1, Mi: -1, Mu: -1, DD: -1, Tr: -1, Dg: -2* 00:56:31 :( 00:56:34 hahahaha 00:56:55 wow, dg^h would be terrible!!! 00:57:03 well, most gods work best with slow leveling races, because they get more piety 00:57:19 since monsters are considered tougher? makes sense 00:57:25 well, sort of sense 00:58:00 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:58:27 oh, actually it looks like that got fixed at some point 00:58:36 i like to think that's because of me complaining about it every week 00:58:40 possible! 00:59:07 !learn add ancestor Knight: melee companion. Starts with a longsword and bonus AC; 5 + HD/2. HD 5: buckler. HD 8: longsword->broadaxe. HD 9: buckler->shield. HD 10: flame ego. HD 13: reflect ego. HD 16: spiny. HD 17: shield->lg. sh. HD 18: flame->speed ego. 00:59:08 ancestor[3/3]: Knight: melee companion. Starts with a longsword and bonus AC; 5 + HD/2. HD 5: buckler. HD 8: longsword->broadaxe. HD 9: buckler->shield. HD 10: flame ego. HD 13: reflect ego. HD 16: spiny. HD 17: shield->lg. sh. HD 18: flame->speed ego. 00:59:17 this god is way too complicated... 00:59:17 ...uh, scratch that, no it didn't get fixed at all 00:59:24 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:59:47 !learn e ancestor[2 s/$/ Weapons get +1 enchant per 2 HD./ 00:59:47 ancestor[2/3]: HD = (player XL - 1)*2/3 + 1. HP = hd * 5 + max(0, (hd - 12) * 5). MR = hd*hd/2. Base AC = HD. Base damage = HD*3/2 + 3. Gains rF at HD 11, rC at HD 12, Haste at HD 14, and sInv at HD 16. Weapons get +1 enchant per 2 HD. 00:59:55 -!- hypermatt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:15 PleasingFungus: Really? Could put a chart or something in the ^ menu to show what's to come for your ancestor 01:00:20 true 01:00:32 not as bad as Vp hunger at least 01:00:33 not an awful thought. still feels like there could be some streamlining 01:00:45 need to figure out what of this is the cruftiest 01:01:49 cut the HD5 buckler and give the shield with the reflection brand at HD9 (or 11?) 01:02:04 !learn add ancestor Battlemage: conjurer companion. Starts with a quarterstaff and magic dart; knows up to 2 conjurations (drops lowest). HD 3: Throw Frost. HD 6: Stone Arrow. HD 8: Throw Icicle. HD 10: Bolt of Magma. HD 13: Iron Shot. HD 16: Corrosive Bolt. HD 18: Crystal Spear. 01:02:04 ancestor[4/4]: Battlemage: conjurer companion. Starts with a quarterstaff and magic dart; knows up to 2 conjurations (drops lowest). HD 3: Throw Frost. HD 6: Stone Arrow. HD 8: Throw Icicle. HD 10: Bolt of Magma. HD 13: Iron Shot. HD 16: Corrosive Bolt. HD 18: Crystal Spear. 01:03:05 when do you get the ability to put gems in its eyes? 01:03:12 ? 01:03:23 Lightli: plausible 01:04:05 I sort of stuffed these guys full of random shit to give a sense of progression for them, but I can believe I went overboard; easy to cut this stuff down to way fewer tiers if I wanted 01:04:13 need to play it more 01:04:44 PleasingFungus: I'm making fun of your design by invoking tome4's alchemist class 01:04:50 rip...... 01:05:20 hey, better than tome2's alchemist class 01:05:30 !learn add ancestor Hexer: support companion. Starts with a dagger and Corona; knows up to 2 hexes (drops lowest). HD 4: Slow. HD 7: Confuse. HD 9: drain ego. HD 10: Petrify. HD 13: Metabolic Englaciation. HD 16: dagger->quickblade. HD 17: Mass Confusion. HD 18: drain->antimagic ego. 01:05:30 -!- FIQ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:05:31 ancestor[5/5]: Hexer: support companion. Starts with a dagger and Corona; knows up to 2 hexes (drops lowest). HD 4: Slow. HD 7: Confuse. HD 9: drain ego. HD 10: Petrify. HD 13: Metabolic Englaciation. HD 16: dagger->quickblade. HD 17: Mass Confusion. HD 18: drain->antimagic ego. 01:05:42 you get a companion golem that you equip, and there are skills that give it more equipment slots 01:05:49 !learn s ancestor[1 A permanent companion granted by {Hepliaklqana}. Scales with the player's XL. Can be specialized into one of three types: Knight ([3]), Battlemage ([4]), or Hexer ([5]). 01:05:50 ancestor[1/5]: A permanent companion granted by {Hepliaklqana}. Scales with the player's XL. Can be specialized into one of three types: Knight ([3]), Battlemage ([4]), or Hexer ([5]). 01:06:02 minmay: sounds cool. what's the catch 01:06:25 there isn't one, in fact it's somehow even dumber than it sounds because of the way equipment works in that game 01:06:29 lmao 01:06:31 ? 01:06:33 ??Hepliaklqana 01:06:33 TOME4 alchemist is hilarious 01:06:33 hepliaklqana[1/2]: God of ancestral memory. Grants a powerful, customizable permanent ally, which will be automatically revived if slain (after a delay dependent on piety). Likes exploration, hates felids. 0*: ally & recall, 2*: {Remember Life}, 3*: {Romanticize}, 5*: {Transference}, 6*: {Remember Death} 01:06:36 -!- hypermatt has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:43 the best part is that it's a starting class while archmage isn't 01:06:46 !learn e Hepliaklqana[1 s/ally/{ancestor} 01:06:46 hepliaklqana[1/2]: God of ancestral memory. Grants a powerful, customizable permanent {ancestor}, which will be automatically revived if slain (after a delay dependent on piety). Likes exploration, hates felids. 0*: ally & recall, 2*: {Remember Life}, 3*: {Romanticize}, 5*: {Transference}, 6*: {Remember Death} 01:06:50 also you can switch control from your character to the golem 01:06:54 (archmage is the best class in the entire game because wizards) 01:06:59 uh 01:07:01 hm 01:07:12 so a common strategy is to switch to the golem, teleport randomly, attack whatever monsters are around, die, then respawn the golem 01:07:18 and repeat that until the level is dead 01:07:20 I had a feeling 01:07:23 there's an achievement for killing a boss with the golem after you die if I recall correctly 01:07:32 Bring Back Old Summoning 01:07:34 hm 01:07:37 oh fuck 01:07:43 oh fuck!!! 01:07:44 that's just an achievement for killing a boss while already dead, doesn't have to be with a golem 01:07:49 oh 01:07:56 also I think I just came to the same realization PF did 01:08:02 well, that's fixable 01:08:14 make it only attack in your LOS like with a regular summon? 01:08:16 just need to make it pretend to be a summon. I guess 01:08:17 yeah 01:08:18 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:08:19 agh 01:08:22 fuck!!! 01:08:31 hey, better we caught it now 01:08:42 I see a maze of special cases, sprawling to the horizon 01:08:57 every one of them starts with mons_is_hepliaklqana_ally() 01:09:55 alternatively, if it's not in your LOS for whatever reason, have it get teleported to as close to you as possible? 01:09:57 lol tome4 is adding 3 new dlc races and classes and a fucking crafting system 01:10:09 why 01:10:18 i guess this is offtopic but why 01:10:26 minmay: People want stuff like that 01:11:07 one thing I remember about TOME4 was one boss had this unbelievably dangerous skill he would use before anything else that would drag you and him to literally hell 01:11:07 do they... 01:11:17 yeah I suppose "lol money" is a good enough reason 01:11:28 this is interesting 01:11:30 it looks like 01:11:31 the catch was the skill had a range of 5 and until he used it he wouldn't do anything else 01:11:35 that's fearscape, it was probably the grand corruptor, and its not dangerous once you know how it works 01:11:40 yup 01:11:46 kite? 01:11:47 so you just stayed out of that range of 5 and kited him to death 01:11:49 haha 01:11:50 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17.1-3-g152610e 01:12:06 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:12:10 the chaos ego effect that clones monsters specifically checks to see if a monster is a friendly summon, and if so, marks the clone as summoned 01:12:14 this is interesting to me 01:12:20 can you guess why? 01:12:31 yeah he literally has his AI's talent usage overridden so that he either uses fearscape or moves, no other talents 01:12:56 PleasingFungus: Another special case for hep? 01:13:01 PleasingFungus: summoning boris and cloning him would otherwise give the wrong message when the clone dies 01:13:23 lmao 01:13:53 what I was thinking of was that, as far as I can tell, there is nothing that marks a clone of a *hostile* summon as summoned 01:14:18 clone a summoned executioner 01:14:22 die shortly afterwards 01:14:31 wait 01:14:33 PF 01:14:39 what if the ancestor was marked as durably summoned? 01:14:56 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17.1-3-g152610e (34) 01:14:57 PleasingFungus: wait, you actually don't know why? 01:15:36 I know why the case for friendly summons exists 01:15:38 there's a comment 01:16:12 Lightli: I think that'd prevent them from taking stairs? 01:16:18 oh 01:17:02 oh yeah how does the ancestor work in regards to changing dungeon levels 01:17:25 PleasingFungus: you can phantom mirror your ally 01:17:51 they follow you like other perma-companions, or you can recall them 01:17:56 chequers: ? 01:18:06 not sure if it should be allowed or not 01:18:26 what if the recall was passive and happened if the ancestor was out of LOS for more than a few turns 01:19:14 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1347-gb9e2fb4 (34) 01:19:32 just flinging ideas out at this point and hoping at least one of them sticks 01:19:35 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1347-gb9e2fb4 (34) 01:19:57 chequers: doesn't seem more abuseable than other uses of phantom mirror? 01:19:58 idk 01:20:04 I'd thought of that but it seemed OK to me 01:20:12 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:20:17 Lightli: I'm implementing the summon-like attack restriction for now 01:20:21 ok 01:20:29 and griping 01:20:38 griping? 01:20:49 PleasingFungus: fair enough 01:21:03 PleasingFungus: i guess it's not, just surprising. But it seems you can mirror more or less any ally 01:21:20 Lightli: grousing? moaning? complaining? 01:21:32 oh 01:21:57 I was confused because griping sounded like something the knight was going to do 01:22:04 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1390-g864ba88: Don't let H allies attack out of LOS (!!!) 10(44 seconds ago, 1 file, 8+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/864ba88282a5 01:22:09 but I'm thinking of gripping :v 01:23:55 :) 01:24:43 I don't want to know what would be the right time to bring back Old Summoning 01:24:47 because that was just unfair 01:25:12 at the end of days 01:25:21 when only mummies remain 01:25:26 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25:42 grimly slouching toward the two hundred million turn mark 01:25:57 hmm 01:26:21 what would happen if you went upstairs on D:1 with the orb on turn two hundred million 01:26:26 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:26:39 I think you'd win 01:26:42 not sure tho 01:27:49 -!- vermifax has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:28:29 PleasingFungus, well, it's much easier if the branch stays the same name. I can just re-label it in the menus and lobby 01:28:32 MUCH easier 01:28:36 yeah 01:28:38 that was the plan 01:28:41 cool 01:28:44 aw 01:28:50 gonna take some time to sort out the merge so that won't happen tonite 01:28:51 nerfs my killhole idea 01:28:53 easy peasy. just let me know when 01:28:56 np 01:29:00 chequers: ? 01:29:06 oh, the attacking out LOS? 01:29:10 *out of 01:36:08 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:36:18 yeah 01:37:28 -!- neongrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:38:35 oh, interesting 01:38:52 monsters getting names makes their normal description no longer show up 01:40:25 where's the code that makes autoexplore eat chunks/food? 01:41:29 <|amethyst> !source _auto_eat 01:41:30 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/delay.cc#l1082 01:41:44 <|amethyst> (that doesn't actually do the eating, but look for the calls) 01:41:52 ah yep, that's what I'm after 01:42:04 want to make ghouls auto eat chunks if they're <100% hp 01:43:59 <|amethyst> probably you want to look at prompt_eat_chunks for that 01:44:13 <|amethyst> // Allow undead to use easy_eat, but not auto_eat, since the player 01:44:16 <|amethyst> // might not want to drink blood as a vampire and might want to save 01:44:19 <|amethyst> // chunks as a ghoul. Ghouls can auto_eat if they have rotted hp. 01:44:22 <|amethyst> const bool no_auto = you.undead_state() 01:44:24 <|amethyst> && !(you.species == SP_GHOUL && player_rotted()); 01:45:07 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1348-g32b6e23: Fix named allies' descriptions 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/32b6e23ce410 01:48:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1391-ga03ade0: Add a basic ancestor description 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a03ade0294fd 01:48:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1392-gf770efa: Fix ancestor descriptions 10(19 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f770efac3918 01:48:56 -!- Hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:53:48 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:55:24 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1347-gb9e2fb4 01:55:54 so monsters do in fact cast mass confusion at about 1.5x power compared to confuse 01:55:56 very odd 01:56:28 I'd have thought 2x, from the code... 01:56:49 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 01:56:57 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:58:04 -!- Lightli_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:58:13 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:59:18 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:50 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:04:09 -!- ololoev_ has quit [Client Quit] 02:04:48 -!- Shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:05:26 -!- ololoev_ has quit [Client Quit] 02:05:37 -!- KurzedMetal1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:06:53 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:11:08 who casts mass confusion? 02:17:58 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:22:54 -!- aditya has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 02:29:00 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:29:10 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:29:33 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:29:48 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:29:54 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:30:14 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:31:27 -!- kaiza has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:53:32 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1348-g32b6e23 02:53:38 -!- Woratiklis has quit [Quit: Smaller, Faster, Easier.] 02:57:41 -!- caricature has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:57:41 -!- teukkam has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 02:59:02 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:00:08 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:10 -!- teukkam has quit [Client Quit] 03:06:07 -!- neongrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:08:21 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:12:18 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1348-g32b6e23 (34) 03:16:46 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:17:10 -!- nabalzbhf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:18:13 -!- WhodaMan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:18:39 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:20:07 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:21:38 [06:21:40] PleasingFungus [allygod] * 0.18-a0-1390-g864ba88: Don't let H allies attack out of LOS (!!!) (44 seconds ago, 1 file, 8+ 2-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/864ba88282a5 ← pff 03:32:46 i guess i've gotta come up with icons for the other H abilities 03:33:29 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:35:33 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:36:35 ontoclasm: have you done U's altar yet? 03:36:48 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:38:01 nope >.> 03:38:19 i should do that first i guess, ahem 03:38:27 -!- infrashortfoo has joined ##crawl-dev 03:38:30 haha 03:38:37 well, since he's at least got an active branch 03:38:40 =P 03:39:14 is lasty still married to that name? 03:39:43 because i'm still pretty sure something better and less prone to uka/oka confusion can be come up with 03:39:56 maybe they're sisters 03:40:20 okawarukayaw 03:41:26 heh 03:41:47 but that would take away from the old man hoarder oka lore 03:41:49 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:41:52 that is clearly crawl canon 03:42:05 hah 03:49:10 -!- _159 has quit [Client Quit] 03:49:19 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:49:27 we're running out of god letters 03:49:35 just IPW i think 03:49:47 er, I and W actually 03:54:37 -!- teukkam has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 03:55:29 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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pleasingfungus know. 13:37:56 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus (I guess classed draconians would probably be a problem either way?) 13:37:57 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:46:49 -!- Goon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:50:03 -!- } has quit [] 13:52:06 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:52:41 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:53:59 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:54:22 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:02 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:55:42 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:04:03 -!- Goon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:08:49 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:17:19 -!- serq has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:22:03 -!- neongrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:37:23 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:38:09 -!- Goon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 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has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:13:10 -!- oxeimon has quit [Client Quit] 19:17:07 -!- zero_one has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18:15 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:31:45 !tell gammafunk https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=19169 do you ever wonder if we're living in a simulation and none of this is real 19:31:45 minmay: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 19:43:58 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:45:39 -!- Warrigal is now known as tswett 19:52:56 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:53:04 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:21 -!- Ragnor has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:53:34 !seen lasty 19:53:34 PleasingFungus: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 19:53:34 I last saw Lasty at Thu Feb 18 00:47:16 2016 UTC (6m 14s ago) saying 'AF_DRAIN_SPEED seems to do some work on the current cobs, tho definitely way less.' on ##crawl. 19:53:37 whoa 19:54:09 !seen PleasingFungus 19:54:09 I last saw PleasingFungus at Thu Feb 18 00:53:33 2016 UTC (32s ago) saying 'whoa' on ##crawl-dev. 19:54:25 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:54:41 !seen amalloy 19:54:41 Sorry amalloy, that person is dead. 19:54:41 -!- johnf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:54:42 rip 19:55:33 !tell |amethyst the dbname tweak you suggested seems reasonable? doesn't seem like there's much difference right now. note that the code I added is copied from how named zombies work, so we'd probably want to use this there as well...? 19:55:34 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 19:56:53 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:57:31 Lasty: i'm planning to rebase combogod & allygod onto master (handling the passives), and then rebase allygod onto combogod so it'll be playable on cbro as a combined branch; do you have any work you're doing on combogod that means I should hold off on rebasing it? 19:58:13 minmay: how do moon trolls' apts compare to ogre mages'? 19:59:39 PleasingFungus: my instinct is merge rather than rebase here 19:59:56 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:59:58 I really don't want to have nontrivial merges 20:00:04 hm 20:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:10 either you're going to get a nontrivial merge or a nontrivial rebase 20:00:13 I guess merging allygod onto combogod would be ok 20:00:18 nontrivial rebases are a lot harder to resolve 20:00:25 yes 20:00:35 cleaner history! 20:00:54 i like rebasing as much as the next guy, but "straight line" /= "cleaner" 20:01:54 mm 20:02:28 I'd wanted to rebase allygod regardless, since it seems like it'd be nice to deliver it onto trunk in a somewhat cleaner state 20:03:36 -!- Ender has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:03:42 right now it's approx 1,000,000 commits, many date back to when the god was about demons and so on 20:03:46 i think that could be perfectly reasonable. you certainly do want to rebase allygod to squash up a bunch of your dumb commits 20:04:03 rude... 20:04:54 personally i'd try something like `git rebase -i $(git merge-base allygod master)` to clean up your history, and then `git merge master` to actually bring it up to date 20:07:32 why not just -i master? 20:09:21 because you'll have to deal with cleaning up your local changes at the same time as you deal with adjusting to upstream changes 20:09:32 my suggestion lets you keep those two problems separate, and it should be less overwhelming 20:18:19 ah 20:18:21 OK 20:18:58 and if you want, you can replace the merge at the end with a rebase. my opinion is that merge would be nicer, but it's just an opinion and not a terribly important one 20:19:06 but i think making it two steps will help 20:25:13 81 commits 20:25:15 nice 20:25:27 amalloy really knows how to 20:25:28 step it up 20:26:15 i suggest you step off 20:31:51 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1349-g07bb513: Make monster englaciation not hit pals (|amethyst) 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 10+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/07bb513e6498 20:34:10 could probably be simplified with mons_aligned (which despite the name takes two actors) 20:34:24 wheals: you have the power 20:34:47 too much typing...... 20:36:18 someone on reddit is very excited that xom turned gastronok into a juggernaut 20:36:38 xom unreasons 20:36:40 is it because people always spell his name gastronaut for some reason 20:37:01 brb gotta reserve a username on every webservice ever 20:37:04 I think there were a few of those 20:37:15 !lg * recent killer~~gastronok 20:37:16 2271. ruwin the Grave Robber (L10 HuNe of Vehumet), blasted by Gastronok (the air) on D:8 on 2016-02-18 00:05:45, with 3605 points after 10265 turns and 0:36:07. 20:37:20 !lg * recent killer~~gastronok s=killer 20:37:21 2271 games for * (recent killer~~gastronok): 2218x Gastronok, 16x Gastronok the shard shrike, 13x Gastronok the juggernaut, 7x Gastronok the titan, 3x Gastronok the acid blob, 3x Gastronok the caustic shrike, 2x Gastronok the iron dragon, 2x Gastronok the hellephant, Gastronok the storm dragon, Gastronok the juggernaut (glowing shapeshifter), Gastronok the caustic shrike (shapeshifter), Gastronok ... 20:37:32 13 or 14, depending how you count it 20:37:46 yes, there are a lot 20:37:54 https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/467t7j/i_am_xoms_new_beloved_play_toy_so_he_decided_to/d03jcx5 20:38:54 !lg * killer~~juggernaut killer!=juggernaut 20:38:54 107. heatzeker the Cleaver (L10 DDFi of Xom), annihilated by Gastronok the juggernaut on Lair:1 on 2016-02-15 23:52:16, with 4389 points after 7235 turns and 0:22:05. 20:39:00 !lg * killer~~juggernaut killer!=juggernaut s=killer 20:39:01 107 games for * (killer~~juggernaut killer!=juggernaut): 40x a juggernaut zombie, 33x a juggernaut skeleton, 13x Gastronok the juggernaut, 6x a spectral juggernaut, 5x a juggernaut simulacrum, 5x a juggernaut (illusionary), 2x a juggernaut (shapeshifter), a juggernaut (glowing shapeshifter), Gastronok the juggernaut (glowing shapeshifter), Sojobo the juggernaut 20:39:04 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1350-g404b4cb: Simplify (wheals) 10(27 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/404b4cb260ab 20:39:15 Sojobo! 20:39:22 i do enjoy answering questions about xom on reddit. "i've almost died 3 times due to xom transmutations and i haven't got any !cancellation. is there any real way to deal with berserk into transmutation since "stasis is gone?". the only answer is mine: "Just press aXYY. With Xom, the only winning move is not to play." 20:40:10 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 20:40:34 it makes me wonder, were people really going xom and then wearing stasis to cancel out the berserk attack, and quaffing !cancellation every time he polymorphs you? you're missing all the fun! 20:40:53 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 20:41:20 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:42:51 fun...? 20:43:42 PleasingFungus: that's fine, tho I plan to redo piety a bit over the weekend 20:44:22 people persuaded me not to rebase 20:44:28 so I'll just probably merge 20:44:33 so it shouldn't be an issue for you anyway :) 20:45:10 right now I'm just real mad about git stash including files that you have staged 20:45:13 it gets me every time!!! 20:45:28 PleasingFungus: merging is definitely the way to go 20:45:45 I'm doing some cleanup of the 81 commits on the allygod branch 20:45:49 so I'm rebasing that 20:45:50 yeah, that's weird re staging stash 20:45:59 but combogod is different ofc 20:46:05 yeha 20:47:32 ??hep 20:48:08 hi Sequell... 20:48:22 !haunt 20:48:22 Grunt gestures at something while chanting. Insubstantial figures form in the air. The wraith hits something! x4 The phantasmal warrior hits something! x3 20:48:25 ... 20:48:26 ?hep 20:48:28 ??hep 20:48:32 .... 20:48:46 (it works in pm even) 20:48:47 ??help 20:48:48 !shrug 20:48:48 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 20:48:52 ??why 20:48:54 ??advice 20:48:55 ... 20:48:56 riop 20:48:57 ??why not 20:48:57 rip 20:49:03 rip & riop. 20:49:08 .echo (??help) 20:49:09 (??help) 20:49:12 .echo $(??help) 20:49:12 Not a valid command: ?? help in ??help 20:49:20 .echo $(ldb-query hep) 20:49:20 $(ldb-query hep) 20:49:34 !learn q hep 20:49:34 hep[1/1]: see {hepliaklqana} 20:49:39 !learn q hepliaklqana 20:49:39 hepliaklqana[1/2]: God of ancestral memory. Grants a powerful, customizable permanent {ancestor}, which will be automatically revived if slain (after a delay dependent on piety). Likes exploration, hates felids. 0*: ally & recall, 2*: {Remember Life}, 3*: {Romanticize}, 5*: {Transference}, 6*: {Remember Death} 20:49:54 I was looking for a name to copy-paste 20:49:58 but I ended up just grabbing it from the code 20:50:03 you could have asked! 20:50:04 >.> 20:50:11 haha 20:50:41 PleasingFungus: git stash -k 20:51:07 ahh 20:51:09 useful! 20:51:34 you can also use git stash -p, if you only want to stash some of your stuff, but i find this is pretty rare for me 20:52:24 -k would've been fine 20:52:48 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:58:34 -!- eb_ has quit [] 20:59:33 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:00:06 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:07:55 anyone interested in analysing dact data in morgues? https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19165&p=259941&sid=1af134a30c5637d63179b7bd39cf797a#p259941 21:08:07 -!- DaneiSIX has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:08:13 I am vaguely interested in diving deeper (read: extracting per-level data into a database) 21:08:17 Blade- was 21:08:25 xhe's been popping in every few days 21:09:21 yes, see who the thread op is :) 21:09:50 o 21:09:53 I saw they thanked you 21:16:06 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:08 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:20:57 ??ancestor[2 21:21:01 !learn q ancestor[2 21:21:03 ancestor[2/5]: HD = (player XL - 1)*2/3 + 1. HP = hd * 5 + max(0, (hd - 12) * 5). MR = hd*hd/2. Base AC = HD. Base damage = HD*3/2 + 3. Gains rF at HD 11, rC at HD 12, Haste at HD 14, and sInv at HD 16. Weapons get +1 enchant per 2 HD. 21:29:16 is it important to tell the HP/AC/damage? 21:30:59 probably not 21:31:16 remember, learndb is the encyclopedia everyone can edit... 21:32:43 Saint Roka (12o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 200 | AC/EV: 13/7 | Dam: 35 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, priest, evil | Res: 06magic(80) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 5021 | Sp: battlecry [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 21:32:43 %??saint roka 21:33:21 so max-level ancestors are basically saint rokas 21:33:26 give or take 21:34:37 fair bit less 21:34:49 half hp, two thirds damage 21:35:25 PleasingFungus: did you want the progression to remain static, or were you interested in the order of unlocks being somewhat randomised? I would do the work for that if you were 21:35:56 I'd absolutely be interested in randomization 21:36:00 within limits, ofc 21:36:11 I think that'd do a lot to justify the complexity 21:36:30 I was thinking of just randomising rf/rc/sinv at the start 21:36:57 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:37:13 sounds basically reasonable 21:38:02 you'll need to do some work to unify the code that provides resists/sinv, the code that displays it in xv, and the code that messages when it's unlocked 21:38:04 just give the player a demonspawn 21:38:29 i wonder if this works 21:38:31 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:38:31 !source _regain_memory 21:38:33 Can't find _regain_memory. 21:39:34 rip 21:39:42 sequell forgot it 21:40:29 Felids banned from worshipping? because of their lives? 21:43:42 because ancestors use equipment 21:43:54 and I don't want to go down the slippery slope of race-specific ancestor behaviors 21:44:03 which are most obviously called for by felids, since they're the weirdest species 21:44:08 ah, yes, the ancestor is the same spcies as you 21:44:15 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:44:18 well, unless you believe darwin. 21:44:19 maybe it's just an ancestor in-law? 21:44:57 :) 21:48:43 so I guess the best approach is to decide on-worship what XL you get another upgrade, and then pick an item out of the upgrade pool at the time of reaching that XL. Do you agree? 21:50:24 hm 21:50:54 so you'd have both random XLs for unlocks and random unlocks for each random XL? 21:51:04 rather than just shuffling unlocks around the same set of XLs? 21:51:42 on reflection, latter seems better 21:52:05 ps, I think there will have to be some race-specific ancestor behaviour, unless you want gr/te ancestors to be useless in coc:7 21:52:25 actually, I guess you can say "ancestor is flying when the player is" 21:53:01 ? 21:53:28 can you clarify? 21:53:28 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:53:36 if the ancestor doesn't fly when you do, do they just get left behind when you cross a lava river? 21:53:42 all ancestors always fly 21:53:45 oh! 21:53:54 I guess I literally mentioned that nowhere ever 21:53:58 except in xv implicitly 21:54:08 reading is hard 21:54:10 back to coding 21:54:16 :) 21:54:44 they got them ghosty-tails for a reason 21:54:54 that's also why they don't share the player's movespeed 21:55:03 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:55:30 clearly spriggans evolved from slow-spriggans 21:55:50 very lamarckian 21:56:26 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:58 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:59:33 can i set props in wizmode? 22:00:07 I forget 22:00:10 not sure how if so 22:00:16 wheals: ghosty tails!!! 22:00:29 I'm actually really really interested in ancestor god :) it sounds like everything I like about beogh without everything I dislike 22:00:29 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:18 hoping to have it on cbro tonite 22:01:20 we'll see 22:01:43 chequers: i don't think so, no 22:01:50 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:02:21 can I put a bool in a prop? 22:02:28 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:02:33 mon-util.cc:362:49: error: use of overloaded operator '==' is ambiguous (with operand types 'CrawlStoreValue' and 'bool') 22:02:47 .get_bool() 22:02:53 aha 22:04:12 this is because c++ is dumb 22:05:29 is there a better way to write XL == 10 || XL == 11 || XL=15? In python I'd do XL in (10, 11, 15) 22:05:57 joke answer: switch (XL) 22:06:07 serious answer: not really, unless you've got considerably more values than that 22:06:10 case 10: case 11: case 15: { ... } ? 22:06:14 yeah, sad 22:07:02 time to port dcss to rust >.> 22:07:19 I want to create an array of these unlockables -- where should I put it in code? I was looking for god-data.h 22:07:38 I hear we have some kind of passives data structure now 22:07:55 oh yeah! I think you need to rebase then 22:08:35 ah, it's not perfect though 22:10:27 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:10:38 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:30 ??hep 22:11:33 man... 22:14:43 bad Sequell :( 22:14:52 it's only broken in -dev 22:14:56 because 22:14:57 !shrug 22:14:57 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 22:15:39 haha 22:16:09 please make hepliaklqana's name simpler so I can use my clipboard for other things while coding this 22:16:19 haha 22:17:13 man, add a single function to a single header file, recompile the entire project 22:17:25 unknown monster: "-name" 22:17:25 %?-name 22:17:30 Xeditilaame 22:17:30 %??-name 22:17:38 Heditilaame 22:17:48 more like Heditilame amiright 22:18:00 maybe I should rename Wulndraste to Wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 22:18:20 -!- WhodaMan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:18:28 :+1: 22:18:29 Helper 22:18:30 pls 22:18:47 or is this and izchak kind of deal where i have to die first 22:18:53 s/and/an 22:19:02 or possible s/and/a 22:19:16 oh 22:19:18 fyi 22:19:20 chequers: 22:19:24 I'm in the middle of a big rebase now 22:19:33 so expect to have to patch your changes on top 22:19:33 rrreeebbbaaassseee 22:19:43 I guess that's not really different from normal for you 22:19:49 rererererererebase 22:19:55 hey that lined up 22:20:00 haha 22:20:03 not on my screen 22:20:31 PleasingFungus: yeah sounds typical 22:21:15 -!- HarryHood has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:21:23 ...typical, that is, of a tiles player to be using those new-fangled "polyspace" fonts 22:24:38 New branch created: hepliaklqana (11 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/hepliaklqana 22:24:38 03PleasingFungus02 07[hepliaklqana] * 0.18-a0-1351-g4065076: Buff Magic Armour 10(73 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/406507638772 22:24:38 03PleasingFungus02 07[hepliaklqana] * 0.18-a0-1352-g26cc0ca: New god: Hepliaklqana the Forgottten 10(2 hours ago, 10 files, 87+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/26cc0ca5fd0c 22:24:38 03PleasingFungus02 07[hepliaklqana] * 0.18-a0-1353-g1ba5c4c: Implement Hepliaklqana ancestors 10(67 minutes ago, 29 files, 1118+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1ba5c4c75341 22:24:38 03PleasingFungus02 07[hepliaklqana] * 0.18-a0-1354-g4cd29e7: Add Hepliaklqana to sprints 10(54 minutes ago, 5 files, 15+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4cd29e754e0f 22:24:38 03PleasingFungus02 07[hepliaklqana] * 0.18-a0-1355-g030a7dc: Hepliaklqana wrath 10(50 minutes ago, 5 files, 33+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/030a7dc70ff5 22:24:38 03PleasingFungus02 07[hepliaklqana] * 0.18-a0-1356-ge2b217a: Automatically respawn the ancestor 10(43 minutes ago, 4 files, 40+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e2b217a46879 22:24:38 03PleasingFungus02 07[hepliaklqana] * 0.18-a0-1357-g46e7a64: Hepliaklqana 0*: Recall 10(35 minutes ago, 10 files, 47+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/46e7a64d802c 22:24:38 03PleasingFungus02 07[hepliaklqana] * 0.18-a0-1358-g3ceb31c: Hepliaklqana 3*: Romanticize 10(25 minutes ago, 10 files, 84+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3ceb31cd1db9 22:24:38 03PleasingFungus02 07[hepliaklqana] * 0.18-a0-1359-g3a12e13: Add Hepliaklqana death/swap effects 10(14 minutes ago, 14 files, 399+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3a12e13e0893 22:24:38 03PleasingFungus02 07[hepliaklqana] * 0.18-a0-1360-g88abb01: Allow choosing Hepliaklqana ally type (2*) 10(2 minutes ago, 8 files, 110+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/88abb0127cd3 22:24:38 03PleasingFungus02 07[hepliaklqana] * 0.18-a0-1361-ge85a352: Hepliaklqana 5* ability: Transference 10(2 minutes ago, 8 files, 55+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e85a3524207d 22:25:06 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:25:29 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:25:49 PleasingFungus: can I make the unlocks based on player xl rather than ally hd 22:25:57 since the latter is just a hard-to-calculate derivative 22:26:45 it's just 2/3rds xl 22:26:53 integer maths sucks!!!!! 22:26:56 lol 22:27:26 my vague concern is that I might want to have an ancestor ambush at the end of h wrath 22:27:33 ancestor squad drop on your head 22:27:50 but ofc resist randomization is gonna be a problem for that regardless of whether it's based on xl or on hd 22:27:52 nothing like tracking down a bug you thought you fixed while not noticing your fix is failing to compile 22:28:31 PleasingFungus: well, my method tracks what resists have been unlocked, so it should still work 22:28:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1413-gf98a860: Merge branch 'master' into combo_god 10(27 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f98a860659f4 22:29:03 ps, what happens if you're in H wrath when you level up? can you miss an unlock? 22:29:03 where does it track it 22:29:03 you.props 22:29:13 mm 22:29:37 lmao, over a dozen file conflicts 22:29:38 anyway 22:30:01 basically, one key per unlock, set True when unlocked 22:30:02 I could clarify my hypothetical wrath concerns further but don't worry about it 22:30:08 i'll burn that bridge when I come to it 22:30:09 fair 22:30:34 if you're in h wrath, you do not have an ancestor. there's no way to get h penance, and when you rejoin h, you automatically get a fresh-generated ancestor. 22:30:59 well, the same ancestor. but its unlocks are all recalculated. 22:31:13 if that makes any sense. 22:31:28 ah 22:33:10 clearly h wrath should be the ancestor 22:33:16 it respawns as normal, of course 22:34:30 http://dpaste.com/3RKYNG5 22:34:35 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:34:42 can someone tell me why random_choose(hepliaklqana_unlocks) always returns the first element? 22:35:05 man. my vim is fucked up, it keeps putting tabs in places 22:35:59 put `set expandtab` in your .vimrc 22:36:07 it is!!! that's what's fucked up 22:36:19 fucked up indeed 22:36:40 <|amethyst> chequers: you are telling random_choose to choose among one thing 22:36:41 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:37:23 <|amethyst> chequers: it returns one of its arguments, chosen at random, and you gave one argument 22:37:26 ..incarnadine.... 22:37:41 huh? but how come I can call .description on the returned item? 22:38:37 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:38:56 <|amethyst> chequers: you gave it a pointer to an array, which in C++ is the same as a pointer to the first element of the array 22:39:10 <|amethyst> chequers: it is as though you wrote unlock = *hepliaklqana_unlocks 22:39:20 fffffffffuuuuckkkkk c++ 22:39:22 <|amethyst> chequers: which is the same as unlock = helpliaklqana_unlocks[0] 22:39:28 fuck real memory 22:39:55 <|amethyst> chequers: if you want to choose randomly from an array, we have two ways 22:40:28 <|amethyst> chequers: 1. manually, with hepliaklqana_unlocks[random2(ARRAYSZ(hepliaklqana_unlocks))] 22:40:55 lol 22:41:07 <|amethyst> chequers: 2. using random_iterator (which on an array gives you a pointer): unlock = *random_iterator(hepliaklqana_unlocks); 22:41:40 <|amethyst> both of those are bad if the array has zero elements, but you're in luck because C++ doesn't allow zero-element arrays 22:41:53 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:41:54 The build has errored. (hepliaklqana - e85a352 #4771 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/110033697 22:41:54 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:42:20 whoa? does C? 22:42:36 <|amethyst> (you can get a pointer to a dynamically-allocated array of five elements, but you can't declare a variable int x[0]; 22:42:39 <|amethyst> wheals: yes 22:42:51 !seen johnstein 22:42:51 I last saw johnstein at Wed Feb 17 12:04:04 2016 UTC (15h 38m 43s ago) joining the channel. 22:42:53 huh 22:42:56 <|amethyst> wheals: which can lead to some interesting situations 22:42:59 i object philosophically to selecting a random element using a function called random_iterator, but I object even more to example 1, so that's what I'll use 22:43:03 (& thanks) 22:43:18 <|amethyst> chequers: random_iterator gives you an iterator that points to the element 22:43:26 <|amethyst> chequers: the * is what actually gets the element 22:43:34 !source random_iterator 22:43:35 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/random.h#l70 22:43:38 it's philosophically more like random_pointer 22:43:52 <|amethyst> yeah, and since this is a real array, it actually is a pointer 22:44:13 <|amethyst> but either way (pointer or fancy iterator) you'd use * to dereference it 22:44:27 |amethyst: when/why did they diverge there? 22:44:35 religion.cc:1852:23: error: no matching function for call to 'random_iterator' 22:44:38 ./random.h:70:6: note: candidate template ignored: substitution failure [with C = hepliaklqana_unlock 22:44:39 something to do with VLAs? 22:44:42 const[3]]: member reference base type 'hepliaklqana_unlock const[3]' is not a structure or union 22:44:45 auto random_iterator(C &container) -> decltype(container.begin()) 22:44:47 ^ ~ 22:44:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1351-g4065076: Buff Magic Armour 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/406507638772 22:44:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1352-g26cc0ca: New god: Hepliaklqana the Forgottten 10(2 hours ago, 10 files, 87+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/26cc0ca5fd0c 22:44:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1353-g1ba5c4c: Implement Hepliaklqana ancestors 10(88 minutes ago, 29 files, 1118+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1ba5c4c75341 22:44:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1354-g4cd29e7: Add Hepliaklqana to sprints 10(74 minutes ago, 5 files, 15+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4cd29e754e0f 22:44:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1355-g030a7dc: Hepliaklqana wrath 10(70 minutes ago, 5 files, 33+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/030a7dc70ff5 22:44:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1356-ge2b217a: Automatically respawn the ancestor 10(63 minutes ago, 4 files, 40+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e2b217a46879 22:44:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1357-g46e7a64: Hepliaklqana 0*: Recall 10(55 minutes ago, 10 files, 47+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/46e7a64d802c 22:44:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1358-g3ceb31c: Hepliaklqana 3*: Romanticize 10(46 minutes ago, 10 files, 84+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3ceb31cd1db9 22:44:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1359-g3a12e13: Add Hepliaklqana death/swap effects 10(34 minutes ago, 14 files, 399+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3a12e13e0893 22:44:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1360-g88abb01: Allow choosing Hepliaklqana ally type (2*) 10(23 minutes ago, 8 files, 110+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/88abb0127cd3 22:44:59 ... and 2 more commits 22:45:03 New branch created: ukayaw (62 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/ukayaw 22:45:05 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1037-g2bea649: Add Ukayaw as a god that compiles 10(6 weeks ago, 22 files, 82+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2bea6491f7ee 22:45:05 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1038-g5a793ef: Implement accelerated piety gain/decay for Ukayaw 10(5 weeks ago, 5 files, 38+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5a793ef110f0 22:45:05 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1039-gaed8961: Add Ukayaw * ability: Stomp 10(5 weeks ago, 6 files, 56+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aed89615bab7 22:45:05 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1040-gabbca82: Add Ukayaw ** ability: Partner Pass 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 9 files, 249+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/abbca827b35f 22:45:05 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1041-g5a2d015: Change Stomp to do damage based on monster current hp (MarvinPA) 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5a2d0153cb37 22:45:05 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1042-g79902cc: Fix up braces and a missing actor check in hurt conduct code (Medar, wheals) 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/79902ccf43db 22:45:05 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1043-gd033c50: Attempt to bring Partner Pass into the modern targetter regime 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d033c50371bf 22:45:05 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1044-gf2263e4: Add rand_round (|amethyst) 10(4 weeks ago, 2 files, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f2263e4c685f 22:45:05 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1045-g87e19d8: Ukayaw *** power: Ukayaw prepares the audience for your solo 10(4 weeks ago, 6 files, 63+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87e19d8a1b2e 22:45:05 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1046-g88e38fb: Add an assert to rand_round (|amethyst) 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/88e38fba3f4d 22:45:05 ... and 52 more commits 22:45:05 there we go 22:45:16 perhaps that should be begin(container) 22:45:23 example 1 it is 22:45:37 PleasingFungus: GOD X2 COMBO 22:45:42 wheals: lmao 22:45:47 i've put you in a Mood, haven't i 22:46:19 ...whoops :p 22:46:23 intended 22:46:37 so the combo_god branch is now 22:46:39 a combination of gods 22:46:39 ! 22:46:42 just so... 22:46:51 Grunt: totally beat you to it 22:46:56 rip... 22:46:59 honestly 22:47:01 woah. it works 22:47:03 thanks |amethyst 22:47:04 I'd been planning this for some days 22:47:10 Is it up on any server? 22:47:18 tbf i said my thing in the middle of Cheibriados spam 22:47:24 which made it a c-c-c-combo breaker 22:48:33 Xenobreeder: it'll be on cbro shortly 22:48:46 I forget when cbro rebuilds 22:48:53 cant you ??rebuild it 22:49:08 Nice. 22:49:47 apparently so 22:49:55 got it confused with one of those newfangled fast-building servers 22:50:13 !tell johnstein combo_god is now a two-god combo branch, as was foretold in times of old 22:50:14 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 22:50:25 experimentals don't rebuild 22:50:25 johnstein: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:50:26 automatically. gotta beam yak 22:50:27 uh 22:50:28 be manual 22:50:29 !beam yak 22:50:30 johnstein casts a spell. yak is cast into beam.cc! 22:50:34 !messages 22:50:35 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (20s ago): combo_god is now a two-god combo branch, as was foretold in times of old 22:51:07 whoa, good command 22:51:12 !beem yak 22:51:15 aw 22:51:18 beam yak? are you doing some kind of livestock mutilation? 22:52:15 @??death yak name:beam_yak n_rpl col:lightcyan spells:debugging_ray.200.wizard 22:52:16 hm 22:52:24 wasn't there some kind of bug involving branch end choice 22:52:25 rip Gretell 22:52:37 I remember someone was talking about that, but I can't remember if it was in the distant past or more recently fixed 22:56:33 ??hep 22:56:48 rip bots 22:56:55 :( 22:57:15 PleasingFungus: so rebase onto combogod? 22:57:23 !learn q hep 22:57:23 hep[1/1]: see {hepliaklqana} 22:57:30 !learn q hepliaklqana 22:57:30 hepliaklqana[1/2]: God of ancestral memory. Grants a powerful, customizable permanent {ancestor}, which will be automatically revived if slain (after a delay dependent on piety). Likes exploration, hates felids. 0*: ally & recall, 2*: {Remember Life}, 3*: {Romanticize}, 5*: {Transference}, 6*: {Remember Death} 22:57:34 -!- Jamo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:58:34 hm 22:58:35 hates felids //I wonder if you get extra piety for Natasha... 22:58:39 haha 22:58:55 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:56 The build has errored. (combo_god - f98a860 #4772 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/110034252 22:58:56 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:59:42 you don't get piety for kills 22:59:45 sadly 23:00:04 !learn e hepliaklqana[1 s/ (after a delay dependent on piety)// 23:00:05 No change: regex ` (after a delay dependent on piety)` does not match `God of ancestral memory. Grants a powerful, customizable permanent {ancestor}, which will be automatically revived if slain (after a delay dependent on piety). Likes exploration, hates felids. 0*: ally & recall, 2*: {Remember Life}, 3*: {Romanticize}, 5*: {Transference}, 6*: {Remember Death}` 23:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:08 hm 23:00:15 !learn e hepliaklqana[1 s/ \(after a delay dependent on piety\)// 23:00:16 hepliaklqana[1/2]: God of ancestral memory. Grants a powerful, customizable permanent {ancestor}, which will be automatically revived if slain. Likes exploration, hates felids. 0*: ally & recall, 2*: {Remember Life}, 3*: {Romanticize}, 5*: {Transference}, 6*: {Remember Death} 23:00:39 !learn e hepliaklqana[1 s/if slain/if slain (after a few dozen turns)/ 23:00:40 hepliaklqana[1/2]: God of ancestral memory. Grants a powerful, customizable permanent {ancestor}, which will be automatically revived if slain (after a few dozen turns). Likes exploration, hates felids. 0*: ally & recall, 2*: {Remember Life}, 3*: {Romanticize}, 5*: {Transference}, 6*: {Remember Death} 23:03:21 Experimental (combo_god) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1425-gfc200da 23:04:02 johnstein: branch rebuilt - do you want to rename it now? 23:04:05 idk how much work that is for you 23:04:26 gotta add that trailing s 23:04:48 PleasingFungus: I can do it later 23:04:50 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:05:01 what's the sequell keyword for experimental branches 23:05:07 johnstein: I was going to link to it on SA 23:05:18 but I can do that even while it's still called the u branch, I guess 23:05:25 exbrl or something 23:05:31 something 23:05:43 I have to reboot webtiles to get the new label 23:05:49 console is easier 23:06:52 PleasingFungus: Hepliaklqana brings forth the memory of your ancestor, Dunstan! 23:06:55 Dunstan???? 23:07:04 hm 23:07:09 dunstan the drongo 23:07:20 !lg PleasingFungus experimental 23:07:21 maybe that one shouldn't be in the list 23:07:21 4. PleasingFungus the Vexing (L6 SpEn), slain by Grinder on D:3 on 2016-01-31 03:09:47, with 289 points after 2271 turns and 0:08:40. 23:07:24 ??helpal 23:07:25 !lg PleasingFungus explbr=combo-god 23:07:25 No games for PleasingFungus (explbr=combo-god). 23:07:34 !lg PleasingFungus s=explbr 23:07:35 429 games for PleasingFungus: 425x, squarelos-0.17, combo god, chunkless, gods 23:07:37 mm 23:07:42 !lg PleasingFungus explbr=combo_god 23:07:43 1. PleasingFungus the Vexing (L6 SpEn), slain by Grinder on D:3 on 2016-01-31 03:09:47, with 289 points after 2271 turns and 0:08:40. 23:07:45 there we go 23:07:54 !lg * explbr=combo_god dg 23:07:55 2. ErrorIam the Firebug (L3 DgFE), succumbed to an adder's poison on D:2 on 2016-02-09 22:52:02, with 41 points after 1504 turns and 0:08:52. 23:07:57 lol 23:07:59 why 23:08:02 !hs * explbr=combo_god 23:08:03 The memory of your ancestor Dunstan checks in! 23:08:03 565. Jarlyk2 the Hoplite (L27 GrFi of Ukayaw), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-02-04 02:40:58, with 1805029 points after 60130 turns and 4:44:04. 23:08:07 !lg * explbr=combo_god s=god 23:08:08 565 games for * (explbr=combo_god): 353x, 195x Ukayaw, 3x Okawaru, 2x Gozag, 2x Elyvilon, 2x Xom, 2x Vehumet, Makhleb, Qazlal, Cheibriados, Trog, Dithmenos, Ashenzari 23:08:08 ! 23:08:26 PleasingFungus: http://dpaste.com/1FBJ19E 23:08:33 !lg * explbr=gods dg 23:08:34 No games for * (explbr=gods dg). 23:08:37 !lg * explbr=gods 23:08:39 597. WaveMotion the Transmogrifier (L9 MfTm of Qazlal), slain by a troll on D:9 on 2014-05-17 03:00:08, with 2907 points after 10091 turns and 0:43:21. 23:08:42 PleasingFungus: there are some code things I don't like very much in there, but it works 23:08:45 people were more sensible back then. 23:08:48 (and style guide violations) 23:08:52 is the current helpal name a joke? or really the final name? 23:09:19 asdf 23:09:32 johnstein: Jokes are illegal. 23:09:50 what's wrong with hepliaklqana? 23:09:53 specifically: 1) I don't know where the struct/array I dumped in religion.cc should go, 2) the loop to determine what to unlock is horrendous and SURELY there's a better way c) it would be cool to also randomise the other gains like weapon upgrades 23:10:21 the current name of both this god and Lasty's god is hard to remember and unpronouncable 23:10:25 not saying anything is wrong. just makes me think of kiku and yred since those are also unpronounceable 23:10:47 that was the inspiration 23:10:47 the game already has two gods I remember as "the gods with silly long names", which yes are yred and kiku 23:10:48 yes 23:10:50 I love those gods 23:10:52 and their silly names 23:11:07 well, pick a better first four letters :P 23:11:08 it was my vow that, should I ever make a god, it would have an unpronouncable, unspellable name 23:11:13 yea and uka. just seems like an interesting design decision to make the names hard to pronounce. 23:11:21 ukayaw is short 23:11:22 and pronouncable 23:11:39 I always stumble when I try to pronounce it. heh 23:11:42 no worse than qazlal 23:11:54 yoo-kaw-yaw is how i pronounce it 23:11:57 no real justification tho 23:12:07 yew kay aw 23:12:11 oo-kaw-yaw would be reasonable too 23:12:22 thought it was YOO-kuh-YAW 23:12:39 chequers: imo: shuffle an list and store the unlock HDs corresponding to each effect 23:12:42 *a list 23:12:55 one-time shuffle at ancestor select or s/t 23:12:58 PleasingFungus: so the prop stores the HD the resist is unlocked at? 23:13:02 yes 23:13:15 makes sense 23:13:30 at religion join, right? since you could theoretically never pick an ancestor type 23:13:42 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 23:13:44 yeah, sorry 23:13:50 that's what I meant 23:13:55 wasn't thinking clearly 23:13:59 you're forgiven 23:14:06 !source join_religion 23:14:07 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc#l3675 23:14:25 you'll want 23:14:28 _join_hep 23:14:35 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 23:14:50 ah yes 23:18:10 hm 23:18:57 the funny thing about the unpronounceable god names is I've never needed to say them in real life 23:19:20 it's just a bitch to type 23:19:38 clearly you've never attended your local DCSS chapter meets 23:19:55 yep, shame on me 23:22:31 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:24:57 funny bug somehow: every time i reload this save, I get +1 hep ally 23:25:15 Naruni: i cursed Lasty's name every moment i was recording my ukayaw videos 23:25:55 that's 23:25:56 another C++ question. I have an array of property keys and I want to assign a unique value from another array to each one. How should I do this? 23:25:57 worrying 23:26:08 PleasingFungus: nah it was transferred from the old branch 23:26:38 shuffle the array of values and iterate along it, tossing values into properties 23:26:55 ah yeah i just realised I should do it backwards/inverted 23:27:15 i mean, you can shuffle either array, and then iterate over either array 23:28:09 sure 23:28:19 assuming they're the same length 23:28:30 yes, I added a compile_check for that! I'm an expert! 23:28:45 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 23:28:46 The build has errored. (combo_god - fc200da #4773 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/110035967 23:28:46 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 23:29:22 it'll still work as long as the one you're shuffling is at least as long at the one you're assigning to 23:29:45 oh hey, there's literally a function shuffle_array 23:34:19 PleasingFungus: if the one you're shuffling is shorter than the one you're assigning to it doesn't really matter what you do because you can't assign properties uniquely 23:35:47 ah, so I just call shuffle_array after defining the array and it's randomly shuffled each time the game starts? 23:41:10 religion.cc:1817:1: error: unknown type name 'shuffle_array' 23:41:11 shuffle_array(hepliaklqana_unlock_hds); 23:41:11 ^ 23:41:27 random.h is #include'd 23:42:10 chequers: you can't just include statements at the top level of a file 23:42:16 you have to put it inside a function somewhere 23:42:22 and then arrange for that function to be called 23:42:25 orllly 23:43:14 do I need to remove static or const to shuffle an array? 23:43:25 const 23:44:18 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 23:44:33 i don't think so 23:44:38 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 23:44:59 you might need to get rid of const, but i think a const array is an array of pointers to const, not a const array of pointers 23:45:07 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 23:45:31 yeah, removing it fixed the weird error 23:49:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:59:29 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1350-g404b4cb (34)