00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:00 what's left for allygod 00:01:21 right now i'm rewriting the way reviving works 00:01:24 making it automatic 00:01:28 need to do more testing too 00:01:57 !source can_smell 00:01:58 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#l7404 00:02:03 it could probably be publicly tested right now 00:02:08 chequers: one of my favorite functions 00:02:08 important function 00:02:11 ya 00:02:15 check out how often it's used, too 00:02:31 gotta get that realism 00:02:34 ~45 times, by my count 00:02:58 like 10, if you exclude dat/ 00:03:05 17 00:03:32 why would you exclude that 00:03:39 translation duplication 00:04:10 <|amethyst> 6 dat/ instances for English 00:04:15 ah 00:04:17 point 00:04:20 <|amethyst> err, 7 00:04:36 still. 23 is a lot of flavour text 00:04:45 maybe mummies can just smell. if ghouls can 00:04:56 absolutely not. 00:05:00 and it doesn't test if you're underwater while the enemy is above water 00:05:00 this is CORE to crawl's character. 00:05:50 if a merfolk player drops an item in water, the item won't create a splashing noise, since the assumption is that you dropped it from below water level. 00:05:52 not sure about octopodes. 00:06:02 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06:39 yeah, but what if you're undetected underwater and a pan lord comes into LoS? You couldn't smell it, could you! I rest my case, this function is incomplete 00:08:42 man, turn a comma into a semicolon and you get some messed up errors 00:09:37 could use a submarine race 00:10:03 your submarine class is randomly assigned at the start of the game, and once your crew gets enough XP they can identify it 00:10:08 level seven: torpedo ability 00:10:21 level 14: submarine-launched ballistic missiles 00:10:58 if the arrival vault has no water you are beached and have to press 5 until the apocalypse 00:11:23 level 21: perfect stealth and silence 00:14:33 the hunt for red octopode 00:16:03 PleasingFungus: the ancestor should comment the first time you enter each branch 00:16:17 Snakes. I remember this. 00:16:18 also, should talk entirely in limericks 00:16:39 Hell. I hung out here for a while. 00:16:46 Tomb. Why are we here, again? 00:18:07 agreed that ancestors should have some kind of dialogue, but I am very bad at writing dialogue. 00:20:03 There once was a naga from Snake / Who went upstairs to look for a mate. / Instead she did find / A Na Wiz who declined / And instead she was found to be ate 00:23:17 <|amethyst> ??buff 00:23:17 |amethyst[23/23]: <|amethyst> If it's a buff <|amethyst> That you desire <|amethyst> That's too tough <|amethyst> Die in a fire <|amethyst> Burma-Shave 00:23:55 <|amethyst> ??nerf 00:23:56 I don't have a page labeled nerf in my learndb. 00:25:32 berf 00:25:34 imo 00:25:42 wow 00:25:52 I rolled a 1/10 chance 3 times in a row 00:25:59 and had to go insert a dprf to see if my code was being buggy 00:26:16 burma shave: http://burma-shave.org/jingles/random.pl 00:26:17 PleasingFungus: what are the odds?! 00:26:24 0.1%! 00:26:29 oh. yes. 00:26:36 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:28:22 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1343-g48c8f86 (34) 00:28:32 <|amethyst> !learn add nerf The crystal ball / Says trunk will bring / A nerf to all / Your favourite things / Burma-Shave 00:28:33 nerf[1/1]: The crystal ball / Says trunk will bring / A nerf to all / Your favourite things / Burma-Shave 00:29:15 wonderful 00:29:36 what if my favorite thing is reading about nerfs 00:29:39 PleasingFungus: alternately, ancestors don't talk, they just emote 00:29:45 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:30:03 Your ancestor points at your weapon and shrugs expressively. 00:30:11 you just know they'd complain about how lame their descendants turned out to be >.> 00:30:22 You drink the chartreuse potion. It was a potion of degeneration! Your ancestor laughs. 00:30:31 <|amethyst> Lightli: then we'll leave them out of the changelog because they're "inconsequential" 00:30:40 Welcome to level 4! Your ancestor stifles a yawn. 00:30:46 lmao 00:31:23 wow. it's difficult to find rhymes for 'nerf' 00:32:10 <|amethyst> serf 00:32:18 <|amethyst> also relevant to player-dev interactions 00:32:42 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:38 You player serfs / Are very brave / But still the nerfs / Will fill the grave / Burma Shave 00:33:50 <|amethyst> or "itwurf" 00:33:56 hm, good one 00:34:03 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1376-gff25ad5: Make H ancestor revival free & automatic 10(5 minutes ago, 12 files, 37+ 57-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ff25ad5b4d9c 00:35:08 looks like I refer to ancestors "dying" in four places, all with the same phrasing 00:36:59 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1377-g426b66f: Don't describe the undead dying (|amethyst) 10(48 seconds ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/426b66f21b71 00:37:02 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1300-g99c80f9: Make panlord AC & EV (mostly) inversely correlated. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 15+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/99c80f998685 00:37:02 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1301-g0ebd95c: Give a few panlords rF+++/rC+++. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0ebd95cae5d5 00:37:02 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1302-g0506cc9: Give panlords more variable rElec levels. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 9+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0506cc9e86ce 00:37:02 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1303-g303ae48: Remove weak (and unfunny) spells from Panlords. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/303ae48b100d 00:37:02 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1304-gee408e8: Tweak and upgrade panlord spells. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 58+ 101-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ee408e8f3444 00:37:02 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1305-g4b1cd9f: Make non-spellcaster panlords scarier. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 13+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4b1cd9f27260 00:37:02 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1306-g1eb7676: Add hash_random_choose_weighted. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 31+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1eb76763ab0b 00:37:02 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1307-ge67e052: Improve pan lord descriptions. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 110+ 74-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e67e052dca64 00:37:06 nooo 00:37:33 now you have to see it all again since I reworded a commit 00:37:41 but I'm proud of e67e052dca64 00:37:57 %git e67e052dca64 00:37:57 07chequers02 * 0.18-a0-1307-ge67e052: Improve pan lord descriptions. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 110+ 74-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e67e052dca64 00:38:01 ! 00:38:20 hm 00:38:30 how does 'dragon' look in a sentence? 00:38:38 one mo 00:38:45 One of the many lords of Pandemonium, Uwist is a spiked dragon with large, flaming wings and the head 00:38:48 of a rhino. It smells of rotting flesh. 00:38:56 !blame2 chequers 00:38:56 ccchhheeeqqquuueeerrrsss 00:39:10 the tiles 00:39:13 not a big fan of spiked actually 00:39:31 It menaces with spikes. 00:39:34 ontoclasm: I don't think the code matched up in the first place, right? 00:39:42 seems odd to describe things as animals rather than animal-like - compare "human" vs "humanoid", "dragon" vs...? 00:39:49 it did 00:39:51 idk 00:39:55 pls no 00:40:05 just a sleepy thought 00:40:11 (it's okay, don't worry about it) 00:40:21 is that what all the random numbers in this code did 00:40:39 chequers: i don't remember 00:40:40 i changed them all, I thought they were just random :D 00:40:44 i did it ages ago 00:40:50 there was, in fact, a significant amount of work put in to make the panlord tiles match up with the descriptions 00:40:51 yeah 00:40:54 well, roughly 00:41:07 -!- AMagicalLamp has quit [] 00:41:10 I like the look of the changes generally 00:41:13 ontoclasm: just make another 100 doll pieces nbd 00:41:26 rip 00:42:08 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1306-g79c2a7f: Add hash_random_choose_weighted (PleasingFungus, |amethyst). 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 31+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/79c2a7f05c52 00:42:08 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1307-g44280fb: Improve pan lord descriptions. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 110+ 74-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/44280fb0a0c8 00:42:37 !push chequers 00:42:38 -!- FireSight has quit [] 00:43:32 ontoclasm: so the number in eg HRANDOM_ELEMENT(misc_descs, 5) referred somehow to the panlord doll piece? Where is the mapping done? 00:44:57 aha dc-demon.txt 00:45:11 wow, intense 00:46:19 yeah, sorry it's insane, i am not good with computers 00:46:33 i'll do a pass to re-match everything up 00:46:52 and use the best-fit tile for all my new words 00:47:26 i think the fact descriptions match is super cool, I sort of noticed in the past but thought "nah that's suuuurely rng, no way..." 00:48:04 -most- demondoll bits are easy to make 00:48:27 bodies are the difficult ones 00:50:49 yet again, tiles holds back crawl development... 00:50:51 smdh... 00:51:23 ??romanticise 00:51:23 romanticise ~ Romanticize[1/1]: Hepliaklqana 3* ability. Heal your ancestor, remove debilitating status effects, and provide a short-duration elemental resistance buff. Healing & buff duration scale with Invocations. 00:51:27 ty sequell 00:51:29 anyway 00:51:33 * ontoclasm prays to its dark god... 00:51:36 the resistance buff has been sort of shit in testing so far 00:51:43 going to push this into trunk soon? 00:51:48 trunk? heavens no 00:51:55 lasty's god branch, maybe 00:51:58 unless he merges that into trunk first 00:52:04 in which case it'll be its own experimental 00:52:13 re resistance: I'm considering swapping it out for a simple +ac buff 00:52:32 but the existing ones only give very piddly ac bonuses... 00:52:34 idk 00:52:45 ?/much AC 00:52:46 Matching entries (1): stoneskin[1]: 8+2d(power) turns of +(2 + pow/20) AC. Incompatible with Ozo's, Cigotuvi's, being undead, and all transforms except Statue Form and Blade Hands. Sorry, Crawl doesn't want you to have much AC. However, unlike Ozocubu's Armour, Stoneskin will work with heavy armour. Removed in 0.18. 00:52:56 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:54:15 thinking ozo's right now, which gives 4 + hd/3 AC 00:54:34 probably one pip of ac at low levels and two pips at max 00:54:37 I guess that's okay? 00:55:40 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-1344-g78c4976: When monsters call on a god to smite you, use the god's name 10(88 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/78c49766f6f9 00:56:22 aw 00:56:26 no "NO GOD smites you!" 00:56:29 haha 00:56:37 sorry bro 00:56:57 nameless god is distinct from no god,r ight? 00:56:59 I forget 00:57:10 yes 00:57:15 yes 00:57:18 oooh 00:57:20 <|amethyst> "nameless smites you!" 00:57:25 hm 00:57:28 what is this nameless god nonsense? 00:57:35 I think it would render as "Its god smites you!"? 00:57:37 A nameless force smites you? 00:57:37 actualy, no 00:57:39 GOD_NAMELESS, // for monsters with non-player gods 00:57:44 s/ly/lly/ 00:57:54 oh maybe norris has that? 00:58:05 <|amethyst> priests 00:58:06 lots of enemies do, actually 00:58:15 Nameless smites you! 00:58:16 any priestly enemy who doesn't have a thematic player god 00:58:22 this includes like 00:58:23 all of tomb 00:58:25 and elf 00:58:28 and dracs 00:58:34 well, there's only one priest enemy in Elf these days 00:58:41 oh, did we lose one? 00:58:45 i tested with MuPr and sphinx, it just said "something" 00:58:53 sphinxes aren't priestly 00:58:55 I think 00:59:06 !source is_priest 00:59:07 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-info.h#l344 00:59:11 ugh 00:59:13 !source is_priest 2 00:59:14 2/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc#l5022 00:59:14 yeah, I think sphinx smiting is a wizard spell 00:59:24 !source MST_SPHINX 00:59:24 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-mst.h#l67 00:59:27 !source MST_SPHINX 2 00:59:28 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-mst.h#l67 00:59:32 rip 00:59:32 er 00:59:39 generated file 00:59:39 !source mon-spell.h 00:59:40 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-spell.h 00:59:53 { SPELL_SMITING, 11, MON_SPELL_WIZARD }, 00:59:56 yep 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:03 amalloy, you have this compiled 01:00:12 try a de high priest or drac zealot 01:00:19 oh 01:00:19 try 01:00:20 daevas 01:00:22 and seraphim 01:00:32 <|amethyst> I don't know why mummy priest didn't work 01:00:35 I know what the result there will be; I just want to see the text :) 01:00:40 <|amethyst> The mummy priest calls down the wrath of its god upon you. 01:00:41 <|amethyst> _Nameless smites you! 01:01:01 really? 01:01:04 i must have misread then 01:01:15 i tested MuPr and thought it said something 01:01:18 haha 01:01:25 amalloy: did you 01:01:27 reset its spells 01:01:39 &mmummy priest spells:smiting.200.wizard 01:01:41 for example 01:01:42 <|amethyst> oh right 01:01:51 no, certainly not 01:01:53 ahh 01:01:56 I might've :) 01:01:58 in your place 01:02:04 <|amethyst> amalloy: maybe it summoned something that smote you? 01:02:08 I do appreciate your use of the correct shorthand 01:02:10 i just hold down . and hope for the best, instead of remembering the &m syntax 01:02:12 <|amethyst> not sure if they summon any smiters? 01:02:24 @??mummy priest 01:02:30 ...? 01:02:34 smoke demons i guess 01:02:39 that'd do it 01:02:49 i think i'm gonna buff helm card 01:03:08 please 01:03:22 so what is the plan for nameless? use Something, or try to conjugate "its god"? 01:03:25 people keep telling me 2dmg shaving for 20turns is amazing but i dont believe them! 01:03:42 Done, amalloy is now a DGL admin. 01:03:47 Done, wizamalloy is now a DGL admin. 01:03:48 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:53 thanks 01:03:57 I would just use "something" for now 01:04:01 <|amethyst> amalloy: I'd say "Something" 01:04:23 <|amethyst> and add a bool _god_is_something(god_type g) 01:04:24 sorry it took a few days. haven't been in the crawl-loop much. too much rocket league 01:04:39 -!- West1C has quit [] 01:05:14 no worried johnstein, i just did it locally 01:06:24 hm. god_is_something seems like a hard name to guess the meaning of. i'd like is_player_god, except it sounds like it means your player's actual god. what about "god_is_playable" or something? 01:06:30 god_has_name 01:06:56 god_is_player_god 01:06:59 no 01:07:04 I see what you're getting at with that now 01:07:27 i like has_name or is_named 01:07:30 <|amethyst> is_real_god 01:07:42 <|amethyst> or god_is_real 01:07:47 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1378-g21bfae9: Make monster Magic Armour work as Ozo's 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21bfae99979c 01:07:47 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1379-ga293598: Swap Romanticize's resistance for magic armour 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a2935981f37d 01:07:47 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1380-gc715fbd: Adjust H piety costs 10(88 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c715fbd242cc 01:07:52 what about 01:07:52 is_unknown_god 01:07:52 I dispute that god is real 01:07:53 <.< 01:07:56 or maybe just an optional extra argument to god_name? 01:08:05 god_name(god, "Something") 01:08:09 imo a wrapper function around god_name 01:08:18 <|amethyst> it already has one optional extra argument 01:08:19 rather than adding parameters (ew) for something that's used in exactly one place (double ew) 01:10:09 PleasingFungus: bad luck for you: is_unknown_god exists already 01:10:15 that was 01:10:16 and returns false for GOD_NO_GOD 01:10:17 the joke 01:10:23 I wonder where it's used now 01:10:42 hm 01:10:45 yeah, you wouldn't want to change that 01:10:58 anyway: wrapper function around god_name. 01:11:24 could be a static wrapper function in mon-cast. 01:11:26 not a big deal. 01:11:40 <|amethyst> though really 01:11:50 <|amethyst> simple_god_message maybe should use the same thing? 01:12:01 hm 01:12:04 <|amethyst> not that anyone currently makes GOD_NAMELESS speak that way 01:12:11 doing so seems dubious 01:12:13 idk 01:12:16 (letting nameless god chat) 01:12:19 (or GOD_NO_GOD) 01:12:20 <|amethyst> but if so, "Something says" sounds better than "Nameless says" 01:12:43 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1344-g78c4976 (34) 01:12:43 <|amethyst> yeah, maybe it should just assert instead 01:12:52 seems like solving a problem that may never exist by making an extant, soon-to-be-on-servers problem more complex 01:12:58 (: 01:13:02 unrelated: |amethyst: remember our discussion about making metabolic englac work like mass enchants 01:13:04 wrt not hitting allies 01:13:08 <|amethyst> yes 01:13:12 mass enchants hit allies 01:13:28 this is 01:13:39 also a problem for hexer's mass confusion 01:13:59 <|amethyst> err 01:14:00 <|amethyst> oh 01:14:09 and also I think I may have messed up when I gave mennas mass confusion 01:14:12 <|amethyst> _mons_mass_confuse looks like it excludes allies 01:14:13 since: oops 01:14:16 oh, does it? 01:14:24 I was just looking at the main mass enchantment code 01:14:26 !source _mons_mass_confuse 01:14:26 <|amethyst> I had just assumed the player one worked similarly 01:14:26 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc#l4454 01:14:32 very odd 01:14:47 wait, that's - that's a completely different codepath from player mass confuse? 01:14:49 wtf 01:15:10 <|amethyst> mass_enchantment is player-only 01:15:18 im crying 01:15:21 <|amethyst> no parameter for an actor 01:15:27 ? 01:15:31 <|amethyst> and more importantly, hard to decide what it would do vs the player 01:15:36 oh, yes, you're right 01:15:39 <|amethyst> since you can't apply an enchant_type to the player 01:15:48 mm 01:15:53 clearly a mapping would be needed 01:17:20 wow, an ally god that doesn't suck. the only problem with H is that i might not play any other god 01:17:53 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: IMO a mapping isn't needed, reconciliation and merging is needed :P 01:18:04 mm 01:19:13 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:20:54 my ancestor just got a ring of fire on two consecutive level ups 01:20:58 and is only rf+ 01:21:04 oh 01:21:07 messaging bug 01:21:32 by which I mean type 01:21:34 *typo 01:21:34 and got a third ring of sinv but isn't sinv 01:22:00 hm 01:22:00 aw. never upgrade the qstaff to lajatang 01:22:15 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1381-g9e052a2: Don't double down on rf+ (chequers) 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9e052a2eda3e 01:22:47 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-1345-g7a7ab39: Don't let Nameless smite the player 10(12 seconds ago, 3 files, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7a7ab39013bf 01:23:24 oops. i think i committed a partial diff 01:24:02 <|amethyst> looks like it 01:24:23 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-1346-g721e183: Fix last commit: forgot to include some hunks 10(13 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/721e183e58f4 01:24:43 <|amethyst> also IMO god_has_name should be something like god != GOD_NO_GOD && god < NUM_GODS 01:24:56 the downside of thinking you're clever enough to use git-add -p regularly 01:25:00 <|amethyst> to exclude GOD_NAMELESS and GOD_ECUMENICAL too 01:25:09 <|amethyst> err, GOD_RANDOM and GOD_ECUMENICAL 01:25:46 <|amethyst> not that any monsters should have those as their gods, but since god_has_name is extern and generically named... 01:26:22 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:27:48 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1382-g454c8c0: Let players see ancestor see invisible (chequers) 10(29 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/454c8c0e27f7 01:28:11 battlemage seems to case haste continually, which causes a lot of spam 01:28:26 hm 01:28:31 @??executioner 01:28:31 Executioner (151) | Spd: 20 | HD: 12 | HP: 57-77 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 30, 10, 10 | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2327 | Sp: pain (d14) [06!sil], haste [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: human. 01:28:40 -!- WhodaMan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:28:50 my testing guy hadn't gotten high-level enough to get innate haste 01:28:55 what do you mean by continuously 01:29:20 out of combat? 01:29:25 like, within 20 turns of haste wearing off while i'm in a room holding 5, my ancestor will cast haste 01:29:31 ok, fixable 01:29:34 she's like the ultimate optimal player 01:30:23 btw, I'm testing by &x then ` repeated 26 times 01:30:24 i know there's spells like that already 01:30:27 yeah sure 01:30:43 I did some of that but just to make sure that things like 01:30:48 spells actually showed up on the monster 01:30:50 and equipment 01:30:51 and so on 01:32:24 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1383-g3ecf77c: Make monster englaciation not hit pals (|amethyst) 10(41 seconds ago, 1 file, 13+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3ecf77ca86d4 01:32:29 the world's ugliest code v 01:32:34 i'm very sorry 01:33:12 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: IMO the quick fix for the different codepaths: 01:33:56 fr: improve ally death at high invo/piety/whatever it scales with. it seems useless later on 01:34:01 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: make the monster version of mass confusion the only one 01:34:09 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: rather than using mass_enchantment 01:34:29 <|amethyst> if we wanted to make the player version not hit friendlies 01:34:36 do we 01:34:40 <|amethyst> I don't know 01:34:52 chequers: which one(s)? 01:35:17 the one when your ally actually dies, is what i tested 01:35:21 no 01:35:33 there are five different effects you can choose from when your ally dies 01:35:37 which of them do you find useless? 01:35:37 ah, explode 01:35:39 ok 01:35:49 I have no memory of what that scales off of 01:36:13 like, it did about 20 damage to geryon at max everything 01:36:20 const int base_dam = 10 + you.get_experience_level(); 01:36:22 beam.damage = calc_dice(4, death ? base_dam * 2 : base_dam); 01:36:34 I have no idea why I made it scale off player xl 01:37:04 hmm, unless the idea is to incentivise the player killing their ally I'm not sure it should be a mechanic 01:37:38 describe this line of play 01:37:51 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:37:57 hide behind your ally, let them die to damage a lot of monsters a lot 01:38:33 -!- molotove has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:39:27 that sounds like "let your ally fight enemies" to me 01:39:42 which, if you can get away with it without engaging enemies yourself, is generally a decent idea anyway 01:40:11 It would definitely make the god annoying if you were actively punshed for letting your ally die 01:40:26 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1384-gdf3897a: Reduce ancestor haste spam (chequers) 10(26 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/df3897a2c3e2 01:40:50 but on the other hand, you're now incentivised (aiui) to make a killhole, put your ally in front and not step in if they're about to die 01:40:59 s/step in/swap places 01:41:04 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:41:14 aiui....... 01:41:20 as i understand it 01:41:33 read: barring some cost to ally death I'm unaware of 01:41:39 there was one but I removed it 01:42:01 %git ff25ad5 01:42:01 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1376-gff25ad5: Make H ancestor revival free & automatic 10(73 minutes ago, 12 files, 37+ 57-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ff25ad5b4d9c 01:43:07 but the cost of "you don't have your ancestor for the next [duration]" seems potentially meaningful - moreso if I remove the piety scaling on ancestor respawn times, probably 01:43:56 if the time is xp-gated rather than aut-gated that makes sense. So you can't just 5 somewhere safe until they respawn 01:44:21 xp gates........... 01:44:26 everything has to be an xp gate 01:45:42 i'm goin to bed but I will consider your Hypothetically Optimal Concerns in the morning. 01:45:44 ty for testing! 01:45:52 :) 01:45:54 having someone else criticising my work is incredibly super useful. 01:45:58 and also finding obvious bugs and problems. 01:46:02 all 5mins of effort 01:46:07 those are things that are nice to have done before it's a branch. 01:46:11 "lets see if Octavia can beat cerebov" 01:46:23 (not that you should have, just deprecating myself) 01:46:31 nn 01:46:38 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:47:29 and? 01:47:40 also, good ancestor name 01:47:48 ikr 01:47:55 the answer is on her second life 01:48:07 i might have cheated a bit tho 01:48:28 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:48:35 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:49:28 ? 01:49:42 might have a-b'ed 01:49:46 lol 01:49:47 very good 01:50:02 probably some balance work to be done there 01:50:03 but, later 01:51:45 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1385-g81869bc: Use a better function for monster xl for foe_ratio 10(32 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/81869bc4609a 01:51:45 03PleasingFungus02 07[allygod] * 0.18-a0-1386-gd8769e2: Teach ancestors the First Law 10(53 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d8769e26bc01 01:53:23 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:42 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:01:27 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:03:08 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:06:54 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:08:10 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:09:34 -!- Don_John has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10:24 -!- iFurril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:11:20 -!- Hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:13:36 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:17:51 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:18:42 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:19:05 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest936 02:21:37 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:23:05 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:35:22 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:36:45 -!- grit is now known as Guest48442 02:37:03 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:37:20 -!- Guest48442 has quit [Client Quit] 02:40:26 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:22 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:43:54 -!- Eksell has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:44:14 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 02:44:32 -!- Eksell has joined ##crawl-dev 02:45:11 -!- ldf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:45:21 -!- phyphor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:45:45 -!- Medice2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:48:03 -!- FIQ has quit [Excess Flood] 02:48:26 -!- FIQ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:48:33 -!- FIQ is now known as Guest14616 02:55:48 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:56:08 Lasty_: have you considered having U piety work like Heat/whatever they call it in fighting games 02:57:29 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:17:19 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:21:47 -!- Dakoteus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:22:24 -!- Guest14616 has quit [Changing host] 03:22:25 -!- Guest14616 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:22:56 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1346-g721e183 (34) 03:23:44 -!- ldf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:25:18 -!- Guest14616 has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 03:26:26 -!- FredrIQ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:26:48 -!- FredrIQ is now known as FIQ 03:29:59 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:30:39 -!- DaneiSIX has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:39:33 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:47:16 chequers: DOTA2 - yes, LoL - no. 03:47:48 Bloodline Champions is another 03:47:54 I'm really struggling to think of any more 03:48:02 so.. in essence, DOTA2 and BC... nothing else 03:48:07 not even Path of Exile qualifies. 03:51:23 -!- GauHelldragon3 is now known as GauHelldragon 03:52:03 -!- infrashortfoo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:51 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:19:21 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 04:21:07 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:21:24 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:22:42 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 04:25:18 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:51:11 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:55:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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