00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:36 weird, must be email formatting bug 00:10:27 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:15:57 -!- roadmap has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:59 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:18:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:21:04 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:30 http://puu.sh/mB9RL/52bff86c8f.png 00:21:34 some abomination drafts 00:23:49 My beautiful X! 00:24:16 these are pretty cool 00:24:40 I'm going to be trawling through a bunch of rpg stuff for more ideas :v 00:24:55 nice, so more variants? 00:24:56 it's certainlyrad 00:25:00 yeah 00:25:05 wow I just meant to type 'rad' 00:25:13 I don't know what that earlier bit came from 00:25:16 I need to sleep. 00:25:18 it's certainly deg 00:25:29 a real 180, you might say 00:25:39 we can have our pi and eat it too 00:25:51 that's sort of a tangent 00:25:52 they're so acute! 00:26:06 it's cos they're so nice 00:40:14 this kind of punning is sinful 00:41:48 But it may contain the answers you sec 00:45:11 -!- StarButterfly has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:46:21 -!- halberd has left ##crawl-dev 00:51:20 amalloy: surely you meant "this kind of punning is asin" 00:51:33 namelastname112 (L27 DrHu) ASSERT(you.see_cell(p)) in 'directn.cc' at line 1203 failed. (Pan) 00:52:51 chequers: i don't think we need a second tangent into arc trig 00:52:56 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:52:57 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:53:15 -!- Harudoku__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:53:35 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.4/20160105164030]] 00:56:40 ...and next they will break out into versine 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:44 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1123-gbd92598 (34) 01:06:23 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:48 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:13:24 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 01:14:16 im guessing it is by design that leaving vehumet and rejoining him will not allow you to be granted new spells to memorize? ive got ****.. piety and haven't been offered a single spell since rejoining him 01:14:39 was that higher than the highest piety you previously achieved? 01:15:39 chequers, no i had been all the way maxxed, he offered 3 level 9 spells. I memorized one then had to abandon him 01:16:33 whats strange though is i tested this in wizmode locally and upon rejoining him (after having 200 piety) he offered me a spell at 60 piety 01:16:43 i just did that exact test 01:17:03 perhaps you're really unlucky, or perhaps you need to hit max piety and the wizmode test is invalid 01:19:25 ok so i tried it again, i memorized 2 spells (piety 60 and 75 i think it was), left him and came back, slowly increased piety and wasnt offered a spell until 90 01:20:00 sooo... i cant learn new spells from him, and im wondering if when I hit max piety if they will be the same spells 01:20:10 cheers 01:24:18 -!- sorlin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:25:44 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:27:23 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:28:07 -!- bencryption has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:33:49 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:41:34 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:42:10 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 01:46:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:54:11 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:55:07 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:57:49 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:59:08 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02:40 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:06:58 -!- jbalthetto has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:09:00 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:09:14 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:22:41 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:25:24 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:27:26 -!- ebering has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:27:34 -!- ebering has joined ##crawl-dev 02:28:29 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:29:48 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:02 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 02:32:03 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:35:45 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:37:57 -!- SpongeJr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:37:59 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:39:38 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:09 hm. I always understood that after hitting the final 3 that was that 03:05:38 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest57853 03:07:14 well, players rarely abandon and then rejoin vehumet 03:07:38 much less after getting to ******. so i wouldn't be too surprised if it were a bit quirky 03:09:35 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:09:40 -!- Guest57853 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:10:42 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:11:19 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1123-gbd92598 (34) 03:15:27 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 03:18:35 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:20:07 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 03:20:09 !source religion.cc:2007 03:20:09 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc#l2007 03:20:48 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:20:50 looks alright to me, vehu won't give gifts again, but if you abandon early and then you can still get later gifts by joining back 03:21:07 also Sequell doesn't see religion.h definitions? 03:21:13 !source NUM_VEHUMET_GIFTS 03:21:14 Can't find NUM_VEHUMET_GIFTS. 03:22:41 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:23:08 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:23:45 -!- Idolo has quit [] 03:29:34 -!- West1C_ has quit [] 03:29:58 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:36:10 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:37:34 -!- siepu has quit [Client Quit] 03:39:43 -!- siepu has quit [Client Quit] 03:49:27 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:52:16 -!- Vall has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:55:32 -!- glosham has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:59:26 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest67785 03:59:52 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:05:27 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:06:40 -!- fiyawerx_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:10:17 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:12:26 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:13:00 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:15:22 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 04:36:21 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:40:21 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:43:04 -!- chewymouse has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:49:27 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:54:42 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:57:56 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:02:42 -!- schistosoma has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:10:17 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:11:53 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:13:34 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:14:48 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:16:20 -!- kuniqs has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:19:50 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:38:58 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:44:07 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:52:05 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:52:05 -!- Starbutterfly has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:00:07 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:07 -!- maldini has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:05:14 -!- Guest67785 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:08:32 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:10:21 -!- maldini has quit [Read error: No route to host] 06:15:46 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest43030 06:23:08 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:25:26 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:25:59 -!- maldini has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:30:48 Is it possible to trigger right click in android version, may be long press? 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10240 by Raistlin 06:31:06 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:37:08 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:39:21 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:47:03 -!- sitnaltax has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:40 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 07:03:00 -!- Jessika has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:08:55 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:09:46 -!- cang is now known as Amnesiac 07:09:56 -!- Amnesiac is now known as cang 07:11:20 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Client Quit] 07:14:25 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:38 -!- cang is now known as Amnesiac 07:15:56 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:20:36 -!- Guest43030 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:27:24 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:28:51 -!- Guest57036 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:33:56 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest55698 07:36:07 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 07:38:26 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:40:25 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 07:41:33 -!- Guest55698 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:44:20 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:44:52 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:56:05 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:48 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:03:16 Ctrl-F "shop" is broken again? It worked yesterday. (As in: Ctrl-F "shop" shows a list of all items in shops -- this is bad -- instead of the list of shops, as it used to.) 08:03:16 dpeg: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 08:03:53 %git b454403 08:03:53 07Ahmad Hamidullah02 {wheals} * 0.18-a0-1121-gb454403: make stash search show matching shop items, even when the shop name matches (#10162) 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b454403a3a34 08:04:04 probably that change 08:04:06 !bug 10162 08:04:07 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10162 08:04:55 guess "shop" search could be special cased? 08:05:13 or it could show only shops if no item outside shops matches, but that might be confusing too 08:06:42 Medar: yes, I think it needs a special case. 08:07:25 The current interface is a degradation. For example, we say "Use Ctrl-F "shop" to find shops." right on Ctrl-O. 08:08:05 (Currently, the interface is even more broken because there's no way to go back to the shop list -- it's worse than a few weeks ago when I complained :) 08:14:00 Are we sure that inscriptions work? I just inscribed a scroll with "surprise shop", dropped it, and the inscription was gone. 08:14:55 -!- Amnesiac is now known as Guest44279 08:14:59 -!- Guest44279 is now known as cang 08:15:11 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 08:15:12 -!- cang has quit [Client Quit] 08:15:16 huh 08:15:38 dpeg: i just do what people tell me to 08:15:54 there were people saying that shop consolidation was poor interface 08:16:07 dpeg: worked for me 08:16:59 It's nice to have full shop list somewhere, special case "shop" search is the easiest solution probably. 08:17:39 another option would be to fit it into $ or ^o somehow I guess 08:17:52 * Medar has to go 08:25:29 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest6880 08:26:36 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:37:10 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1124-g7f29f61: Fix searching for "shop" again. 10(12 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7f29f61b5d1f 08:40:23 wheals: but I am also a people 08:40:30 wheals: hey, thanks :) 08:43:18 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:58:25 As with all merchants, those 08:59:09 The text I added to the Gozag merchang description ("As with all merchants, those deeper in the dungeon tend to carry better wares.") is obsolete, right? If so, can someone revert my commit? 08:59:54 shop contents scale by depth? huh 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01:40 kvaak: yes, for randomly generated shops, and it makes sense. The question was only how to treat Gozag extra shops. 09:02:09 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-1125-g2bdabe5: Remove a now-obsolete description line (dpeg) 10(52 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2bdabe5a7554 09:02:55 |amethyst: thank you! 09:11:45 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:12:10 -!- Adder has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:20:04 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:33:44 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 09:40:02 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:52:45 hmm, how do they work now re: gozag? 09:53:42 <|amethyst> %git 2bdabe5a 09:53:42 07|amethyst02 * 0.18-a0-1125-g2bdabe5: Remove a now-obsolete description line (dpeg) 10(52 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2bdabe5a7554 09:53:43 <|amethyst> err 09:53:48 <|amethyst> %git 72c9994 09:53:48 07MarvinPA02 * 0.18-a0-1035-g72c9994: Scale the effective depth of Gozag shops with XL 10(11 days ago, 3 files, 11+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/72c999403e6a 09:53:49 %git :/[Gg]ozag.*shop 09:53:49 07MarvinPA02 * 0.18-a0-1035-g72c9994: Scale the effective depth of Gozag shops with XL 10(11 days ago, 3 files, 11+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/72c999403e6a 09:53:52 damnit 09:53:58 oooh 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:36 !lm . god.abandon=gozag x=start 10:00:37 1. [2016-01-10 23:04:19] [start=2016-01-08 03:40:37 [20160008034037S]] Jefus the Slayer (L27 MiFi) abandoned Gozag on turn 75796. (D:4) 10:01:26 !hs . gozag 10:01:27 6. Jefus the Cruncher (L11 DsWn of Gozag), slain by Maud (a +4 great sword) on D:11 (nicolae_shop_overgrown_old_shop) on 2015-08-16 03:20:00, with 15227 points after 12351 turns and 0:43:01. 10:01:51 slain in a shop vault 10:01:53 think i missed that change mid first real gozag 10:01:57 8-) 10:01:59 how relevant 10:02:06 haha 10:02:09 -!- West1C has quit [] 10:03:24 when I see nicolae, I always assume it involves Nikola 10:03:36 then I realize that it's just the vault author 10:05:40 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:43 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:19:16 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:21 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 10:19:23 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:19:39 -!- Lasty has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:31:35 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:35:01 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:46 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:37:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:40:09 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:32 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04:58 Starve (L27 MfGl) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 556: mid cache bogosity: mid 9353 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=28 mid=0 (Abyss:2) 11:05:27 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:05:29 Starve (L27 MfGl) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 556: mid cache bogosity: mid 9425 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=51 mid=0 (Abyss:3) 11:07:02 DEAD MONSTER prays to NO GOD. Nothing smites you! 11:07:08 Starve (L27 MfGl) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 556: mid cache bogosity: mid 9580 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=53 mid=0 (Abyss:4) 11:12:16 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:16:21 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:20:51 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:25:19 -!- FireSight has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:25:26 -!- Vall has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:25:51 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 11:27:03 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:30:03 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:30:45 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:42:13 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:43:28 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:43:41 -!- Zekka has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:48:00 -!- SurpriseTRex__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:50:31 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:39 -!- Naruni has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:31 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:00:31 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:47 -!- Reawakening has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:03:47 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:03:50 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:30 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:24 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1125-g2bdabe5 (34) 12:05:42 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:09:53 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:16:01 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:16:25 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:21 -!- Zekka_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:19:23 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:29 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:27:54 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:16 ??nicolae 12:30:17 nicolae[1/1]: i'm glad they're just simple decor vaults because if somebody actually had to edit them, that would be terrible 12:32:40 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:34:25 -!- Lasty has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39:08 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:39:20 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:42:38 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:29 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:22 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:47:26 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:59:26 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:02 -!- mekhami has joined ##crawl-dev 13:01:06 hi 13:01:08 idk who the idiot is 13:01:21 who thinks its a great idea to put all of the stairs up next to three oklob plants 13:01:25 but thanks for being an idiot dpeg 13:01:35 you are really something else 13:02:13 -!- mekhami was kicked from ##crawl-dev by MarvinPA [mekhami] 13:09:02 -!- id0ra has quit [Client Quit] 13:09:52 -!- ventricule has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:12:40 -!- murphy_slaw has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:14:33 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:42 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:33 (also i watched the death on -tv and it was a good one, and very much their own fault unsurprisingly!) 13:22:06 !lg mekhami -tv 13:22:07 507. mekhami, XL12 SpEn, T:19084 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 13:22:45 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:23:48 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:30:14 I learned to not fear oklobs as much when I realized they couldn't sInv. 13:30:18 -!- Franz__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:33:54 -!- Lohengramm has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:33:54 -!- infrashortfoo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:34:21 -!- rmd has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:34:48 -!- Eronarn_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:34:51 -!- Eronarn__ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:43 -!- Lohengramm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:26 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:32 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:46 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:52 When you splat, it's always good to make yourself feel better by blaming a vault...but I don't recommend calling the vault author an idiot in the dev channel 13:38:28 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38:39 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:06 -!- kaiza has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:39:45 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:40:11 ??hubger 13:40:12 I don't have a page labeled hubger in my learndb. Did you mean: hunger, hunger-. 13:40:16 ??hunger 13:40:16 hunger[1/3]: Obviously, you can't go on without food for too long. In most cases, eating fixes this. Dead: 100. Starving: 101-1000. Near starving: 1001-1533. Very hungry: 1534-2066. Hungry: 2067-2600. Satiated (blank): 2601-7000. Full: 7001-9000. Very full: 9001-11000. Engorged: 11001-12000. 13:40:50 didn't that get rescaled so that 0 is death, multiple years ago or something 13:41:11 not that I ever recall 13:41:20 0 is probabaly a sentinel for mummies or something 13:42:08 starving ends at 900, so it looks like it did 13:43:09 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:43:41 -!- Zekka has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:44:17 <|amethyst> %git 679d65d 13:44:17 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-402-g679d65d: Rebase hunger values at 0 (from 100). 10(2 years, 3 months ago, 7 files, 27+ 26-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/679d65df8033 13:46:14 !learn edit hunger[1] s/Dead.*/Dead: 0. Fainting: 1-400. Starving: 401-900. Near Starving: 901-1433. Very Hungry: 1434-1966. Hungry: 1967-2500. Satiated: 2501-6900. Full: 6901-8900. Very Full: 8901-10900. Engorged: 10901-11900./ 13:46:14 hunger[1/3]: Obviously, you can't go on without food for too long. In most cases, eating fixes this. Dead: 0. Fainting: 1-400. Starving: 401-900. Near Starving: 901-1433. Very Hungry: 1434-1966. Hungry: 1967-2500. Satiated: 2501-6900. Full: 6901-8900. Very Full: 8901-10900. Engorged: 10901-11900. 13:51:08 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 13:52:52 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:59:27 -!- sysice has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:59:42 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:02 ??af_hunger 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:02 I don't have a page labeled af_hunger in my learndb. 14:19:23 ??hungry_ghost 14:19:23 hungry ghost[1/1]: A ghost whose primary attack is to decrease your satiation level, by a quarter of your current satiation - it will rapidly reduce you to very hungry or near starving if its attacks connect. If you don't have ranged attacks and can't hit hard and fast, beware. Also eats corpses on the ground. 14:19:24 ??death_cob 14:19:24 death cob[1/7]: A dreadful undead cob of maize. No longer a joke in 0.17+! Now they are super hungry ghosts who can take you from full to starving in a single round. Beware if you have low EV! 14:19:32 ??death_cob[2 14:19:33 death cob[2/7]: You may have already fielded a guess, but it's insane hostile food. It might be corny, but if you put an ear to the ground deep down in Crawl's maize, you may find that you are being stalked; being buttered up for the kill, smooth as silk. 14:19:34 ??death_cob[3 14:19:35 death cob[3/7]: For laughs, watch !tv * killer="death cob" 1 14:19:38 ??death_cob[4 14:19:38 death cob[4/7]: Unfortunately don't turn into death popcorn when sticky flamed 14:25:16 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:25 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:27:03 -!- Guest6880 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:29:29 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:30:39 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:30:53 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:14 Medar, wheals, dpeg: i was one of the people asking for "shop" to show me the items rather than the shops, fwiw 14:34:45 i don't know what i'd ever need the list of shops for, because what i care about is the lovely goodies in the store, not palling around with the owner 14:37:35 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37:50 !revert 7f29f61 14:37:51 03amalloy * 0.18-a0-1534-g2eee55f: Revert "7f29f61" 10(in the future, 5 files, 279+ 762-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2eee55f 14:38:06 aw, it isn't smart enough to look up the commit message 14:38:26 well it should work pretty well both ways now 14:39:56 amalloy: poor owners :( 14:40:11 not being cared for despite being brave enough to set up shops in the dangerous dungeons 14:40:54 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:42:41 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:43:07 reason to see shops for me is mostly "what did that jewellery shop have again" or something like that 14:44:04 i just search for "jew" 14:44:33 but then, i also usually put promising items on $ 14:44:42 <|amethyst> but that will return all jews, whether or not they are in shops 14:44:57 I search for shop and step through each one looking at items. 14:45:03 yeah, I do most that too actually 14:45:07 guess books are better example 14:45:20 it's nice now that you can put stash search shop items on shopping list 14:45:22 for some reason i feel like I need that structure in my searching life 14:46:06 I'm pretty good about using shopping list so looking for good things to buy is as easy as possible, but you'll always need to add something you hadn't at some point 14:48:56 johnstein: if you step through each shop looking for items anyway, why not just inline all those items onto the "shop" search results? 14:49:24 everyone knows those orc shopkeepers rip you off 14:49:46 I guess it does keep that information though 14:50:17 "in_shop" search should do that now or just "_shop" I guess 14:50:41 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:24 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest8596 14:56:06 -!- ldierk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:57:51 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:21 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:48 ??coolplayer 15:13:48 coolplayer ~ coolplayers[1/2]: Players who have won at least one combo that makes a word online in 80x24 console using vikeys or arrows+numrow or an external numpad. 15:13:56 ??word combo 15:13:57 I don't have a page labeled word_combo in my learndb. 15:13:59 ??word 15:13:59 word ~ words[1/5]: dear deck demo desk dram fear feck foam ghee gram hack hear heck hehe hewn hoar hock homo hone huck husk mien mine muck musk open spam spar spas teak team tear teas teen tram tree trie 15:14:06 !kw word 15:14:07 Keyword: word => char=dear|deck|demo|desk|dram|fear|feck|foam|ghee|gram|hack|hear|heck|hehe|hewn|hoar|hock|homo|hone|huck|husk|mien|mine|muck|musk|open|spam|spar|spas|teak|team|tear|teas|teen|tram|tree|trie 15:14:47 I just realized that none of the word combos are very good 15:14:57 save for spas 15:15:05 and the tr 15:15:09 *Trolls 15:16:02 -!- ldierk_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16:24 hoar is probably decent, likewise spar 15:18:27 also hehe is counted as a word even though healer no longer exists 15:18:39 (rip oldEly) 15:18:48 amalloy_: what do you mean "inline" ? 15:19:01 johnstein: i mean, just display a list of all the items in shops 15:19:23 since evidently your goal is to look at all the items that are in shops 15:20:26 amalloy_: frankly, I don't know. seemed like a reasonable approach at the time. maybe I like the bite-sized nature of it? but that sounds a bit irrational. 15:20:35 !lg * / !playable 15:20:45 561207/5161617 games for *: N=561207/5161617 (10.87%) 15:20:55 maybe I like the categorization. but perhaps the items from the same shop all appear adjacent to each other anyway 15:21:00 dang, 10% of crawl's history obliterated 15:21:08 we could definitely do better 15:21:12 rendered unplayable 15:21:15 I will try alternate search methods 15:21:23 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 15:23:20 i just realized, the crawl character is savant-level at counting. like, you're in the middle of lethal combat, right, reacting by instinct, and you step back. something comes into view. what is it? 43 gold pieces. definitely 43 15:24:18 just at the far edge of your vision, far enough that you can't even make out the golden dragon standing just beyond, but the precise number of gold pieces is easy 15:27:30 oh, you didn't know? Dungeon gold pieces are magical and project a holographic sign like "FREE 43 GOLD" along with various shop advertisements below 15:28:01 namelastname112 (L27 DrHu) ASSERT(you.see_cell(p)) in 'directn.cc' at line 1203 failed. (Tomb:3) 15:28:04 it might even had said "'WARE DRAGON" but said dragon probably ripped that part off >.> 15:29:28 fr for the level builder: _maybe_graffiti_square() 15:30:50 a rock wall, with KIEKUP QOIRIS scrawled across it 15:33:03 and if this were nethack, reading that would summon some terrible thing that wants you soul for lunch 15:35:26 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:35:31 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:39:16 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:40:14 are there any actions in nethack that don't have that consequence? 15:41:03 how do you mean? is does resting a turn count as having a consequence? 15:41:13 I mean if it takes up a turn, that's a consequence 15:41:20 since monsters can move, the world reacts, etc 15:41:25 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:42:44 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:42:51 -!- MgDark has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:43:06 -!- Delreyn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:43:21 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:44:33 hm, actually I think it was one (or more) of the *band games that had random graffiti, wasn't it? 15:45:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:46:05 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:46:20 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:40 gammafunk: "that consequence", not "a consequence". i was claiming that anything you do in nethack causes horrible things to chase you 15:46:58 nethack has random graffiti 15:47:44 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:47:46 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:48:01 amalloy: yeah, I eventually realized you were just making a joke, but I'm proud of how I seized on what I perceived as an opportunity to be pedantic and I have no regrets. 15:48:44 gammafunk and i have a special connection, where neither of us ever gets the other's jokes 15:49:09 you're the one who suggested we do a video/stream together, imagine! 15:49:36 hours of "...well what do you mean by *that*, exactly?" 15:53:03 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:41 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:39 -!- mistersteele has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:03:09 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:11:36 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:15:21 well I know nethack has grafitti, no idea about angband+friends 16:15:25 since I've never played it 16:18:12 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 16:20:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:20:17 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:26:43 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:33:55 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:41:06 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:43:09 -!- t4nk905 has quit [Client Quit] 16:49:49 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:52:24 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:53:37 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:56:35 -!- Reawakening has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:25 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:06:42 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 17:07:46 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:08:14 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:11:42 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:12:37 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:15:46 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:18:22 Crypt is missing in Dungeon overview and autotravel menu 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10241 by ldf 17:19:18 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20:04 !remove Crypt 17:20:05 03amalloy * 0.18-a0-1535-g77a473b: Remove Crypt 10(in the future, 38 files, 960+ 627-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=77a473b 17:20:39 i bet that's something to do with vault wardens sealing the stairs to crypt 17:23:29 there were no wardens when i left crypt iirc 17:23:34 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:53 -!- Floodkiller has joined ##crawl-dev 17:27:49 -!- miek_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:31:11 -!- Guest8596 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:32:51 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:33:05 weird 17:33:27 ldf_: I autoexplored all of V:2 and V:3, no change to crypt foundness 17:33:49 then I traveled to the crypt entrance, no change also when the stairs came into LOS 17:33:53 it changed after i entered it again 17:33:56 but when I went..yes 17:35:01 also you missed some items on V:2 and V:3 that I found through autoexplore, but nothing huge 17:35:16 I won't spoil what riches are in store for you... 17:35:40 maybe on V:1 as well, forget if I explored that 17:35:45 see also #7670, #9855 17:36:12 !issue 9855 17:36:13 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/9855 17:36:15 yeah, Crypt showed up as found when I entered it, and did show it as Crypt 3/3 17:36:23 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:26 !bug 9855 17:36:27 er 17:36:27 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9855 17:36:46 !bug 7670 17:36:47 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7670 17:37:03 !cmd !pr 17:37:04 Command: !pr => .echo https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/$1 17:37:20 Does issue refer to what gitorious used to call it? 17:37:21 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:37:35 I don't recall seeing this terminology on github 17:37:37 !cmd !issue 17:37:37 Command: !issue => .echo https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/$* 17:37:43 github does have issues 17:37:49 it's just not the same as a pr 17:38:07 amalloy: it happened again, I thought your first statement was a joke 17:38:20 i knew i was taking that risk 17:39:03 oh I see it 17:39:09 at the top, not on the repo itself 17:39:37 I wonder if gists are better than sprunge, and if there's a command-line thingy 17:39:50 there's certainly a cli for gist, and imo it's better than sprunge 17:40:13 gammafunk: each repo has Issues; you can just opt out of them, and crawl/crawl has, in favor of mantis 17:40:55 -!- siepu_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:40:58 46289 | Vaults:1 | You are sucked into a shaft! 46663 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt - i think this is the reason, like in 7670 17:41:08 ah, interesting 17:41:23 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:41:46 yeah, I see that issues are repo-specific, they just don't have a tab for it on the main page like they do for PRs 17:42:32 they do on other repos 17:42:33 sure they do. it's right next to the PRs link on, for example, https://github.com/4clojure/4clojure 17:42:53 crawl has just disabled Issues entirely 17:42:56 oh I see what you mean, we've some..right 17:43:08 wiki is there too 17:43:24 clojure people are weird like that, I bet 17:44:01 would be kind of cool to move our dev wiki to github, but it does put more of our hosted infrastructure away into github 17:44:06 not to mention the work of moving the content 17:44:32 I wonder if github wiki has a good export 17:44:33 the good news on that front is that a github wiki is a git repo 17:44:45 so you can just clone it, edit locally, whatever 17:44:58 sure, but I wonder about the format 17:45:11 markdown files, i think 17:45:26 hrm, that's pretty good 17:45:44 oh, they support a bunch of format 17:45:45 s 17:46:00 this actually might work for an import of the wiki 17:49:39 pandoc can concert doku formatting to anything anyway 17:53:19 -!- miek_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:11 dokuwiki to markdown conversion could work, would be some significant effort though 17:55:31 pandoc <3 17:58:05 "Just this guy, you know? Developer, vault designer, responsible for various attempts to herd the dev team into something resembling a coherent development process." 17:58:09 from user:sgrunt 17:58:24 false, because we know that Grunt is, at the very least, a tier one demon 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:16 haha 18:01:06 also, regarding that crypt thing, last game i tried to go there i had to do it manually too 18:01:13 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1125-g2bdabe5 (34) 18:01:19 it showed up in autotravel after i'd actually entered but not until then 18:01:46 had you also shafted into view of the crypt stairs? 18:05:42 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 18:06:18 ahhh, i don't believe so 18:07:23 -!- id0ra has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:10:01 -!- id0ra has quit [Client Quit] 18:13:52 -!- WorkSight has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:15:09 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:11 -!- vale__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:15:18 amalloy: we disabled issues because crawl is perfect, naturally 18:22:38 and no wiki because why do you need to design for a game that's already perfect? 18:22:39 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:30:59 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:31:40 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:32:30 ??coolplayers 18:32:30 coolplayers[1/2]: Players who have won at least one combo that makes a word online in 80x24 console using vikeys or arrows+numrow or an external numpad. 18:32:35 ??coolplayers [2] 18:32:35 coolplayers[2/2]: I am a coolplayer so, how do we edit those? 18:32:44 I am officially cool 18:33:26 !nick coolplayers 18:33:27 Mapping coolplayers => birdoprey theglow hyperbolic hyperelliptic elliptic minmay elynae mikee xomscumming tartakower nyaakitty casmith789 demonblade poncheis valrus n1000 sgrunt chris gammafunk amalloy 18:34:14 not sure it's official before you update the nick mapping 18:34:25 how do I do that then 18:34:44 I just won a TrEE in 80x24 console using a numpad 18:35:14 external numpad? i'm not entirely sure what that means tbh 18:35:14 one on your keyboard? 18:35:21 like a separate usb device, right 18:35:32 i was asking Lightli 18:35:42 yeah separate usb device 18:35:49 i know. i was asking what the question means 18:35:58 CMV: *Tele leads to all the bad things +Tele did, just as much as +Tele did. (teleporting into sealed vault rooms, etc) 18:36:01 !won lightli words 18:36:03 lightli (words) has won once in 41 games (2.44%): 1xTrEE 18:36:07 !won lightli words console 18:36:08 lightli (words console) has won once in 41 games (2.44%): 1xTrEE 18:36:11 !nick coolplayers Lightli 18:36:11 Mapping coolplayers => birdoprey theglow hyperbolic hyperelliptic elliptic minmay elynae mikee xomscumming tartakower nyaakitty casmith789 demonblade poncheis valrus n1000 sgrunt chris gammafunk amalloy lightli 18:36:21 the world is your oyster now 18:36:23 cool status attained 18:37:10 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:38:20 !kw eligiblecoolplayer won words console 18:38:21 Defined keyword: eligiblecoolplayer => won words console 18:38:31 !lg * current eligiblecoolplayer s=name 18:38:32 19 games for * (current eligiblecoolplayer): 3x iafm, 3x comborobin, 2x Kellhus, johnnyzero, rast, advil, erikthered, simm, gammafunk, ldf, stickyfingers, Lasty, darkli, chris 18:40:35 -!- kaiza has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:41:15 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:42:17 ??current 18:42:17 I don't have a page labeled current in my learndb. 18:42:33 !kw current 18:42:33 Keyword: current => cv>=0.17 18:43:05 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:44:26 -!- sorlin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:44:27 good coolplayer kw, excludes the person who invented it 18:45:04 do necrophages cause stat damage now? 18:45:19 should just rot you 18:45:19 @??necrophae 18:45:19 unknown monster: "necrophae" 18:45:21 @??necrophage 18:45:21 necrophage (15n) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 23-32 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 804(rot) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 122 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 18:45:27 huh 18:45:44 something statrotted me 18:46:13 You probably didn't deserve all that DEX anyhow 18:46:13 !gameinfo ProzacElf 18:46:14 ProzacElf the L8 HESk^ in D:6 (cbro tiles), T:7974, defenses: 15/10/0, stats: 13/17/14 18:46:22 i didn't notice till i was sick and rotted though 18:46:30 comically enough it only affected my str and int 18:46:30 Sick will rot your stats 18:46:43 hrm, do they give sick still? 18:46:53 ancient zymes 18:46:54 !kw words 18:46:55 Keyword: words => dear|deck|demo|desk|dram|fear|foam|ghee|gram|hack|hear|heck|hehe|hewn|hoar|hock|homo|hone|huck|husk|mien|mine|muck|musk|open|spam|spar|spas|teak|team|tear|teas|teen|tram|tree|trie 18:46:57 !kw word 18:46:58 Keyword: word => char=dear|deck|demo|desk|dram|fear|feck|foam|ghee|gram|hack|hear|heck|hehe|hewn|hoar|hock|homo|hone|huck|husk|mien|mine|muck|musk|open|spam|spar|spas|teak|team|tear|teas|teen|tram|tree|trie 18:47:02 why 18:47:09 oh we're talking about necrophages specifically 18:47:22 oh 18:47:27 well, they must still give sickness 18:47:33 maybe he fought the dreaded necrozyme! 18:47:35 doesn't seem like it 18:47:40 aiiieeee 18:47:51 also ancient zymes have a melee attack, something I never realized 18:47:53 &dump prozacelf 18:47:55 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/ProzacElf/ProzacElf.txt 18:47:56 wow, really? 18:48:00 !lg * killer=ancient_zyme 18:48:01 1682. braveplatypus the Skirmisher (L1 MuAK of Lugonu), slain by an ancient zyme on Abyss:1 on 2016-01-19 12:02:48, with 0 points after 84 turns and 0:00:16. 18:48:08 ancient zyme (03x) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 39-64 | AC/EV: 6/6 | Dam: 16, 16 | 11non-living, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(60), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 326 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 18:48:08 %??ancient zyme 18:48:10 !lg * killer=ancient_zyme max=dam x=dam 18:48:11 1682. [dam=16] robotcentaur the Skirmisher (L1 MfAK of Lugonu), mangled by an ancient zyme on Abyss:1 on 2013-11-03 01:23:46, with 20 points after 153 turns and 0:03:01. 18:48:18 !lg * killer=ancient_zyme !ak max=dam x=dam 18:48:19 312. [dam=16] dpth0ht the Jinx (L9 VpEn of Dithmenos), slain by an ancient zyme on Abyss:1 on 2014-08-07 23:27:03, with 2566 points after 9694 turns and 0:32:52. 18:48:23 rekt 18:48:32 heh 18:48:36 !lg * killer=ancient_zyme !ak splat max=dam x=dam 18:48:37 24. [dam=11] heteroy the Shatterer (L17 OgCK of Xom), slain by an ancient zyme on Abyss:5 on 2013-01-19 03:05:32, with 149869 points after 90503 turns and 3:08:28. 18:48:41 I actually did not realize ancient zymes could even do damage 18:48:50 gotta love people who hang out on abyss too long on their ak start 18:49:09 !lg * killer=ancient_zyme !ak splat max=xl x=dam,sdam 18:49:10 24. [dam=10;sdam=10] HANFGEIST the Acrobat (L27 DsNe of Yredelemnul), slain by an ancient zyme on Abyss:5 on 2015-08-27 14:27:32, with 634253 points after 75277 turns and 13:04:56. 18:50:17 I guess that necrophage must have done it somehow 18:55:23 <|amethyst> yes, the -1 to str and int came from a bout of Sick that appeared while fighting the necrophage 18:56:32 <|amethyst> you have a 1/4 chance of being sickened every time you rot 18:56:49 ah 18:56:54 mystery solved forever 18:58:02 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:01:00 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:19 has anyone ever suggested poison dot becomes non-lethal? 19:03:35 massive adder nerf! 19:03:35 Lasty: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 19:04:47 pretty sure it's been suggested (and shot down) in the past, yes 19:05:08 a lot of poisonous creatures would probably need a buff to compensate -- swamp dragons, adders, ants, bees, etc. Buffing their poison directly would mean increasing the tedium of waiting out the now-not-lethal poison, so it would probably be better to buff their non-poison damage, making them less distinctively poisonous monsters... 19:05:23 In general it seems like opening a whole bunch of problems 19:05:31 iirc the discussion happened around when deterministic poison was implemented 19:05:34 <|amethyst> doesn't non-lethal damage just mean "it matters what gets the last hit"? 19:05:46 yes, that too 19:06:30 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:08:26 hmm 19:08:34 "Something I've experienced in trunk: apparently manuals never run out. My HoSomething has had a fighting manual take him from maybe 14 to 25, which is way more than it would have previously done." 19:08:36 is this normal 19:08:55 that sounds abnormal 19:08:56 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:08:58 !apt ho 19:08:58 HO: Fighting: 2, Short: 0, Long: 1, Axes: 3!, Maces: 1, Polearms: 1, Staves: -1, Slings: -1, Bows: -1, Xbows: -1, Throw: -1, Armour: 1, Dodge: -2, Stealth: -1, Shields: 1, UC: 1!, Splcast: -3, Conj: 0, Hexes: 0, Charms: -1, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: -2, Tmut: -3, Fire: 1, Ice: -1, Air: -2, Earth: 0, Poison: -1, Inv: 3!, Evo: 0, Exp: 0, HP: 1, MP: 0 19:09:04 fighting 2 though 19:09:15 manuals run out after how much xp again? 19:09:17 ah, hmm 19:09:21 ??manual 19:09:21 manual[1/3]: Manuals let you train a skill more efficiently. While you carry it you train that skill at double speed - half the 'skill points' coming from the manual. It was generated with 2000-3000 'skill points' and you cannot 'waste' it, you always get the full amount. 19:10:03 let's see 19:10:08 14-25 is about 18k for 0 apt 19:10:53 yeah seems reasonable I guess 19:10:58 depending on whether it's 14.9 or 14.0 19:11:04 ~3200 xp 19:11:21 !lg * killer~~hydra splat max=xl alldam 19:11:22 1621. [dam=18;sdam=21;tdam=21] caleba the Acrobat (L27 MiAK of The Shining One), slain by an eight-headed hydra simulacrum (summoned by a mummy priest) on Tomb:1 (tomb_1) on 2014-01-18 21:17:30, with 686381 points after 72868 turns and 6:03:45. 19:12:50 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:16:57 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 19:21:26 -!- axujen has quit [Quit: Gotta Go Fast!] 19:21:39 You destroy the lich! You have finished your manual of Fighting and toss it away. Your base Fighting skill gained 6 levels and is now at level 20! 19:22:04 I think I did it previously and it was empty at level 19 19:22:24 as a HO at 14 fighting 19:23:52 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:25:48 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Client Quit] 19:28:12 i am a little dubious about "maybe 14 to 25". it sounds like a total guess 19:28:36 yeah, but I'm also not sure what exactly is happening with these manuals 19:28:54 liches are worth 3k exp every time, right? 19:28:59 ordinary liches, I mean 19:29:10 or do they have variable xp 19:31:07 <|amethyst> there is an XP bonus from certain spells 19:32:01 if I create an orb guardian (fixed xp) and have skill at 14, training only fighting, the manual had ~2900 skill points (looking at plus2) and was used up by killing one 19:32:06 getting me to skill 20 19:32:07 but 19:32:10 @??orb_guardian 19:32:10 Orb Guardian (06X) | Spd: 14 | HD: 15 | HP: 71-96 | AC/EV: 13/13 | Dam: 45 | 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120), 12drown | XP: 2770 | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 19:32:26 is it looking at skill after my +2 HO apt? 19:32:52 !calc 2**0.5 * 2770 19:32:53 3917.37 19:33:04 and deducting that from the manual skill pool? 19:33:27 <|amethyst> AIUI, it is worth a certain number of skill points 19:33:35 <|amethyst> hm 19:33:51 <|amethyst> let me see 19:34:37