00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:12 I'll play with it 00:01:11 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-775-g4d9e04e (34) 00:02:36 mm 00:02:38 I'm looking at this 00:02:40 and 00:02:50 reading about the "listener" hook 00:03:00 which seems like what I would use here 00:03:13 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:03:14 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:20 <|amethyst> FR: there is no 0.19 00:07:44 <|amethyst> instead, on September 19, 2016, we release Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup 1.0.0 00:08:03 <|amethyst> the first digit is a decade counter, you see 00:11:17 |amethyst: only if we have 27 gods and 27 species then 00:11:38 -!- kazimuth has quit [Client Quit] 00:11:41 <|amethyst> !lg * playable x=cdist(job) 00:11:46 4567804 games for * (playable): cdist(cls)=24 00:12:01 <|amethyst> I think job is the one that will need the most work 00:12:13 <|amethyst> !lg * recent playable x=cdist(crace) 00:12:16 1070774 games for * (recent playable): cdist(crace)=26 00:12:17 <|amethyst> !lg * recent playable x=cdist(god) 00:12:19 1070774 games for * (recent playable): cdist(god)=24 00:12:36 <|amethyst> oh, I guess god is slightly behind, since the 24 includes no god 00:13:08 yes 00:13:52 <|amethyst> and I guess it's less *work*, even if is might be harder to come up with distinct jobs than distinct gods 00:14:02 <|amethyst> s/is might/might/ 00:14:24 <|amethyst> could always add slime knight 00:14:41 man 00:14:50 it used to be about half the gods were possible start choices 00:14:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:15:10 I think starting gods are disliked these days 00:15:24 <|amethyst> and early jiyva :) 00:15:32 (TSO, Ely, Zin, Beogh, Makhleb, Lugonu, Xom, Trog, Kiku, and Yred; also the april fools joke with Nem) 00:15:42 <|amethyst> maybe the dislike will overflow back to like 00:15:59 now only Lugonu, Xom, and Trog are left 00:16:00 !lg * dgjr nem 00:16:02 27. buttmutaskillrobin the Fortune-Teller (L5 DgJr of Nemelex Xobeh), hit from afar by Uhonalaq the merfolk (tomahawk) (created by the player character) on D:2 on 2015-03-26 23:13:50, with 202 points after 2373 turns and 0:08:39. 00:16:12 |amethyst: you can't skip 0.27!!!! 00:16:30 <|amethyst> we make 0.18 0.17 then 00:16:31 <|amethyst> err 00:16:35 <|amethyst> make 0.18 0.27 00:17:24 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:49 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 00:18:10 I was thinking more like Stone Soup 0.27 (in the future) Highlights Remove Crawl 00:18:47 %git 6e173f8 00:18:47 07|amethyst02 * 0.17.0-28-g6e173f8: Mention animated undead expiry in the changelog (Nekoatl) 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e173f8b169d 00:19:13 so the commit counter starts over after release? surprised that's only 28 00:19:29 <|amethyst> that's git-describe 00:19:38 also thats on the 0.17 branch 00:19:40 <|amethyst> the number is how many commits since the most recent tag 00:19:51 oh. that's a git thing? not a dcss thing? 00:20:04 ty. never knew that 00:20:12 gammafunk: success 00:20:12 <|amethyst> "most recent" as in commit ancestry, not date 00:20:12 but 00:20:25 I found a bug in our dlua in the process :) 00:21:08 <|amethyst> johnstein: yeah, you can even do git show 0.17.0-28-g6e173f8 00:21:43 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-776-g7a8d288: dlua: Make sure triggerables pass themselves to listeners properly. 10(55 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7a8d288286e5 00:21:46 that's pretty neato. ty. (that could be useful at work) 00:22:15 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:22:32 gammafunk: http://sprunge.us/MIXL 00:22:52 yessss 00:23:03 there are some more nuances to it 00:23:20 in particular you could probably check against the current cloud type 00:23:21 and 00:23:35 you probably don't want to call the listener every turn 00:23:46 yeah 00:24:10 hrm, do I save a turn in my listener table thing 00:24:19 there's a better way to do that 00:24:22 and check against a cutoff for turns passed? 00:24:49 gammafunk: what's the behaviour you want from this 00:25:03 basically it exposes the golem to one set of clouds 00:25:08 "one test in the experiment" 00:25:14 and then cycles to another type? 00:25:16 then after a bit, to another type of clouds 00:25:16 is it a fixed cycle? 00:25:25 of cloud types? could be random 00:25:25 or just whatever 00:25:27 k 00:25:30 well sorry 00:25:33 the code as written can probably do that then :) 00:25:36 the cloud types are a fixed set 00:25:42 like no damaging ones 00:25:46 I'm just trying to figure out the best way to implement what you need 00:25:59 yeah, I can store them in an array 00:26:06 and use rand number as an index 00:26:10 probably just need to add a check for the right trigger type 00:26:17 so that it doesn't fire every turn 00:26:24 and then pick based on the array and it'll be good 00:26:55 oh I see, triggerer 00:27:21 %git 0.15.2 00:27:21 07gammafunk02 * 0.15.2: 0.15.2 changelog 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 1 file, 14+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9b7472d89d3a 00:27:45 amazing...best changelog commit every...10/10 00:27:51 *ever 00:28:13 and since that's a tagged commit, there's no number or git SHA in the version 00:28:18 right? 00:28:22 "A changelog that will change your life." -Wall Street Journal 00:28:22 <|amethyst> right 00:28:22 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-775-g4d9e04e (34) 00:28:23 well non displayed 00:28:32 but a git sha does exist for it, of course 00:28:38 %git 9b7472d89d3a 00:28:38 07gammafunk02 * 0.15.2: 0.15.2 changelog 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 1 file, 14+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9b7472d89d3a 00:28:40 yea 00:28:43 in fact one exsts for the tag itself even? 00:28:53 which is different from the commit it tags 00:28:55 are they annotated tags? 00:28:57 since it's an annotated tag 00:29:02 yeah use git show 0.15.2 00:29:05 to read it 00:29:40 <|amethyst> to see the full version on the commit, use git describe --long 00:29:47 <|amethyst> $ git describe --long 0.15.2 00:29:47 <|amethyst> 0.15.2-0-g9b7472d 00:29:56 <|amethyst> %git 9b7472d 00:29:56 07gammafunk02 * 0.15.2: 0.15.2 changelog 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 1 file, 14+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9b7472d89d3a 00:30:07 here we go 00:30:14 http://sprunge.us/VDTF 00:30:29 neato 00:31:21 nice, is delay related to the countdown trigger type at all? 00:31:31 <|amethyst> Grunt: hm, isn't there one too many -1 there ? 00:31:42 I think there's documentation about that trigger 00:31:52 |amethyst: hm, you're probably right 00:32:12 <|amethyst> Grunt: #cloud_types - 1 is 2, so crawl.random2 gives 0 or 1 which gets +1ed to 1 or 2 00:32:52 hrm, I wonder if I can just do like _G["cycle_cloud_type"] 00:32:54 http://sprunge.us/LWQD 00:33:05 guess that's what that little global_function() thing is doing 00:33:23 gammafunk: "delay" is aut between fires of the fog machine 00:33:31 gammafunk: you can use delay_min and delay_max instead to have it be variable 00:33:36 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:33:37 (the code *should* be robust enough to handle that) 00:33:44 oh 00:33:48 yeah so 00:33:58 I just change the type and I don't need to worry about firing the fog machine here 00:34:03 so it should all just work I guess 00:34:05 ya 00:34:26 the code in the if block should only fire once per fog machine trigger 00:34:38 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:38 so if you want Pakellas to offer commentary, you could put it inside that if block <.< 00:34:54 yeah I guess I'm only worried that I'll change cloud type 00:35:01 before a cloud type gets fired by the machine 00:35:10 if this is every turn as you say 00:35:36 the "if" block there should only trigger its contents once every time the fog machine fires 00:35:50 ahhh 00:36:19 heh 00:36:26 -!- nef has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:36:59 the fog machine dog is kind of unclear as to how listener works 00:37:06 maybe I should improve this 00:37:07 er doc, not dog 00:37:07 dog... 00:37:08 <|amethyst> ARF! 00:37:09 fog dog 00:37:17 new name for smoke demons? 00:37:27 <|amethyst> FR: dogcow 00:37:33 how now dog cow 00:38:07 <|amethyst> Clarus bites! You feel a moof. 00:38:14 johnstein: don't become a dev, people just make fun of your typos and are mean all the time 00:38:30 At least pakellas appreciates me... 00:38:46 ??pakellas reasons 00:38:47 pakellas reasons[1/7]: You look like this: http://i.imgur.com/iL7ef.jpg 00:39:57 I tried to think of other things like having a lightning spire keep zapping something 00:40:11 oh, a lightning spire zapping an electric golem? 00:40:18 ha 00:40:19 would be amusing 00:40:21 <|amethyst> @??flesh golem 00:40:22 flesh golem (058) | Spd: 7 | HD: 15 | HP: 123-149 | AC/EV: 15/3 | Dam: 35 | 11non-living, 10doors, unbreathing, 07vault | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 805 | Sz: Large | Int: brainless. 00:40:55 confused flesh golem with a neutral lightning spire zapping it 00:40:56 gammafunk: don't worry. I barely know C++ (well, at least the fancy stuff that crawl uses) 00:40:57 <.< 00:41:10 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:41:10 -!- Jessika has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:41:14 that's more of an Ash thing? 00:41:21 ? 00:41:35 thought you meant like some kind of BSDM 00:41:50 . . . 00:42:01 learn add Ashenzari 00:43:09 no, that would be something zapping Chuck the Daemon >.> 00:43:26 just put a corpse between two lightning spires 00:44:11 ...named Abby? 00:44:33 -!- tedric has joined ##crawl-dev 00:47:18 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 00:50:31 -!- yottam has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:51:32 -!- Placid has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:55:32 i just did new-orc for the first time. certainly a lot more interesting than the old orc 00:55:36 :) 00:56:04 what are the details of how you changed it? is orc:1 like the old orc:2, and orc:2 is like the old orc:4, or something more complicated? 00:56:16 orc:2 is basically old orc:4 00:56:16 but 00:56:28 well 00:56:40 monster generation is basically flat throughout the branch, so talking about depth is meaningless 00:56:49 i see 00:56:50 that having been said, the change I did make is to remove plain orc bands 00:57:17 so uncommon enemies are probably slightly less uncommon! 00:57:23 (did you face anything unusual?) 00:57:29 i came upstairs from orc:2 to the disconneced half of orc:1, to see 33 orcs of various flavours, including an orc warlord 00:57:40 this sounds like one of gammafunk's playthroughs 00:58:02 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 00:58:18 trying to stairdance a bunch of mighted orc warriors was a pretty bad idea 00:58:25 anyway hopefully Elf will be interesting soon too 00:58:25 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:58:35 yeah i ran into my first new elf mage too 00:58:38 on like D:9 00:58:44 I like where elementalists are going and if fighters are going away perhaps the "popcorn" feel of the lesser elves will go away too 00:58:57 an elf mage on D:9 00:59:00 did you kill it? 00:59:03 yeah orc felt a bit more sparse, but the bands were cruncier 00:59:03 i did 00:59:04 <|amethyst> still need a dwarf branch 00:59:07 *crunchier 00:59:10 !send Dwarf |amethyst 00:59:11 Sending |amethyst to Dwarf. 00:59:12 <|amethyst> but I guess that means we need dwares that heal 00:59:15 i was really scared of him because he was red, but he like...chose to cast no spells 00:59:33 so OTR + potion petition + tab took care of him 00:59:39 &dump 00:59:41 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/hyperamalloy/hyperamalloy.txt 00:59:50 yeah, D:9 01:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:14 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:29 %git f1909d2 01:00:29 07gammafunk02 * 0.15-a0-1714-gf1909d2: objstat: Item and monster generation statistics 10(1 year, 6 months ago, 14 files, 1208+ 57-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f1909d296759 01:00:41 Grunt: if you are interested in more visceral feedback i will have videos of both of those encounters up sometime soonish; i can !tell you a link if you want 01:00:56 <|amethyst> hm 01:01:00 bummer. no objstats for 0.14 01:01:18 <|amethyst> their HD was increased, but the overall spell frequency was only increased slightly 01:01:50 <|amethyst> they went from 55-56 to 60 total spell weight 01:02:45 <|amethyst> excluding blink they probably cast less than they used to 01:03:36 talking about deep elf mages? 01:04:39 <|amethyst> yeah 01:05:05 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:05:25 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:05:47 he blinked a lot but actually cast zero other spells. i assume it was just lucky rolls for me 01:06:15 i never even found out what his spellset was 01:06:44 <|amethyst> hm 01:07:12 <|amethyst> I guess even lightning bolt mage would cast against you 01:07:33 <|amethyst> since rElec isn't immunity 01:07:54 <|amethyst> and draining mage would have summoned 01:08:48 <|amethyst> (well, also monster seem to ignore immunities? or at least kobolds keep trying to curare/poison my gargoyles 01:08:51 <|amethyst> ) 01:08:59 <|amethyst> s/ster/&s/ 01:09:04 i didn't have relec when i fought him anyway 01:09:34 <|amethyst> probably luck then? 01:10:03 yeah 01:10:30 that was what i figured, but since i was giving feedback i thought i'd mention the weird thing that happened 01:11:15 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-776-g7a8d288 (34) 01:13:15 WalkerBoh (L27 DEAK) ERROR in 'cloud.cc' at line 503: cloud translocational energy in malign_gateway at (42,24) (D:1) 01:13:39 <|amethyst> !crashlog 01:13:40 13449. WalkerBoh, XL27 DEAK, T:122653 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/WalkerBoh/crash-WalkerBoh-20151213-061313.txt 01:13:56 should i stop playing? 01:14:10 i'm kind of close to winning 01:14:44 <|amethyst> was the tentacle still there? 01:14:56 no clue 01:15:06 when i started again it started me at the beginning of d1 01:16:33 huh, what's wrong with a cloud being on a malign gateway? that seems like it should be allowed 01:16:37 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 01:16:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:17:04 <|amethyst> malign gateway is solid 01:17:48 is it the only solid feature with the portal glyph? 01:18:18 <|amethyst> yes 01:18:25 <|amethyst> it's a very odd feature 01:19:28 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-776-g7a8d288 (34) 01:21:34 <|amethyst> WalkerBoh: you're probably fine, if you want to be extra careful maybe don't Corrupt when a malign gateway is around? 01:21:54 haha 01:22:00 honestly it worked out very well for me 01:22:03 <|amethyst> though it was tloc energy so maybe it was banishment or something 01:22:03 you see the situation i was in 01:22:04 <|amethyst> :) 01:22:08 !send |amethyst untold damage 01:22:09 Sending untold damage to |amethyst. 01:22:11 on the second try nothing appeared 01:22:21 i used corrupt, yeah 01:23:57 <|amethyst> hm, no dismissal though 01:24:52 <|amethyst> oh 01:25:03 <|amethyst> timeout_malign_gateways uses big_cloud, maybe that's it? 01:25:54 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:27:53 -!- Arkh_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:29:36 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:34:10 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:52:45 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:53:08 this ko has a lightning rod on d:9 01:53:13 Grunt you monster... 01:55:39 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-776-g7a8d288 01:55:58 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:58:43 -!- tedric has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02:11 -!- morfei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:03:21 hi guys 02:03:28 should "http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/morfei.html" list my online wins from ALL servers? I got my first 15rune win last night on the Korean server, but it's not recorded :s 02:03:41 does it take a while to update or something? 02:05:08 !lg morfei cwz 02:05:09 538. morfei the Hellbinder (L27 DsWz of Jiyva), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-12-12 23:29:14, with 14007667 points after 113578 turns and 14:38:20. 02:05:51 morfei_: it should show up there, yes, it's possible that the cao scoring pages are having a problem again 02:06:25 |amethyst: morfei's DsWz win on cwz isn't showing up on cao pages 02:06:26 hmm ok thanks gamma :) 02:06:46 yeah, hopefully we can get the pages restarted, but don't worry, the win is recorded in Sequell 02:19:16 -!- dealpete has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:22:35 <|amethyst> !lg morfei cwz x=file 02:22:36 538. [file=cwz/soup/0.17/logfile] morfei the Hellbinder (L27 DsWz of Jiyva), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-12-12 23:29:14, with 14007667 points after 113578 turns and 14:38:20. 02:23:18 <|amethyst> I can't access the logfile 02:23:34 <|amethyst> oh 02:23:35 <|amethyst> I see 02:23:41 <|amethyst> webzook.net/soup/0.17/logfile 02:23:44 <|amethyst> didn't know they moved 02:24:01 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:28:46 <|amethyst> CAO scoring hasn't been seeing CWZ games for a couple of weeks now 02:30:35 !tell Grunt deep elf mage encounter: https://youtu.be/8txDtLMChnE?list=PLKDpSfFMS1VQvPJw30BAwWlalxUjhYnMg&t=159 02:30:36 amalloy: OK, I'll let grunt know. 02:31:46 !tell Grunt i enter orc at https://youtu.be/8txDtLMChnE?list=PLKDpSfFMS1VQvPJw30BAwWlalxUjhYnMg&t=921 then back off after doing orc:1, and go back to finish it off in https://youtu.be/wRFxE373U4M?list=PLKDpSfFMS1VQvPJw30BAwWlalxUjhYnMg 02:31:46 amalloy: OK, I'll let grunt know. 02:33:36 book 6... 02:37:12 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:38:10 book 6? 02:38:44 deep elf mage 02:38:47 lotta books 02:38:51 must be a sif worshiper 02:38:52 <3 02:38:58 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Read error: No route to host] 02:40:57 -!- Wahaha has quit [Client Quit] 02:42:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:32 any chance we can have rot damage come back like stat damage does, as you gain xp? 02:42:45 because then we could make rot even more severe :) 02:44:05 !tell Grunt reviewing the footage, i'd say the most unusual thing that happened in orc is that there were a huge number of orc warriors all in one place. presumably this is related to removing plain orc bands 02:44:06 amalloy: OK, I'll let grunt know. 02:47:30 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:47:35 +|amethyst: does that mean my win will actually be lost?? :( 02:48:11 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:49:15 morfei_: no 02:49:35 yay <3 02:49:39 it's in Sequell, which is what matters; eventually he'll update cao to catch up on the stuff that went missing 02:59:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:47 -!- FireSight has quit [] 03:04:09 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:06:41 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:10:27 -!- tooon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:20:01 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:23:05 -!- WTFace has quit [] 03:23:40 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-776-g7a8d288 (34) 03:28:38 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 03:34:45 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:34:52 !tell gammafunk I definitely like your new objstats formatting. I was looking at the 0.15 version and it's kind of a nightmare to get into the new format 03:34:53 johnstein: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 03:40:26 hyperamalloy (L15 MuVM) (D:13) 03:40:39 !crashlog 03:40:40 13450. hyperamalloy, XL15 MuVM, T:39838 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/hyperamalloy/crash-hyperamalloy-20151213-084024.txt 03:45:33 !tell |amethyst http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/hyperamalloy/crash-hyperamalloy-20151213-084024.txt looks related to amulet of reflection 03:45:34 amalloy: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 03:48:14 -!- adamzap has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:49:50 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:59:52 wizamalloy (L27 HuWz) (D:1) 04:00:00 !crashlog 04:00:01 13451. wizamalloy, XL27 HuWz, T:142 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/wizamalloy/crash-wizamalloy-20151213-085950.txt 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01:54 yeah, definitely "reflection. for some reason cao isn't able to run gdb and i get a not-that-great crashlog? i'm gonna try to repro offline, and see why is_shield is being called with something that's not an item_def& 04:06:39 ??slime wall 04:06:39 slime wall[1/2]: (2+empty slots)d(walls*3) damage per turn whenever standing next to them. If you're outside of the slme pits, depth is just 1. rCorr reduces damage. This doesn't cause corrosion status, just hurts. 04:06:44 ^ "empty slots" wat 04:06:53 like, in your inventory? 04:09:52 Wensley_: like if you're not wearing a cloak 04:10:13 I don't follow 04:10:15 or i guess cloak is a special case, but if you're not wearing a hat or whatever, that's an empty slot 04:10:18 empty item slots? 04:10:22 equip slots 04:10:27 ??acid damage 04:10:28 I don't have a page labeled acid_damage in my learndb. 04:10:30 ???//acid 04:10:30 I don't have a page labeled ?//acid in my learndb. 04:10:33 ??acid 04:10:33 acid[1/3]: May cause you to receive a level of the debuff "Corr". When something attempts to corrode you, it has a Corr_level/(Corr_level+9) chance to fail. Each level of Corr reduces your AC by 4 and gives -4 slaying. Goes away after enough time has passed. Corr(-4) means -4 slaying/-4 AC. 04:10:39 ??acid[2 04:10:39 acid[2/3]: The damage from "The acid burns!" (for players only) gets one die for every uncovered non-shield armour slot (50% chance if wearing a cloak), reduced by 20/40/60% for each level of the fur mutation, plus an extra 2 dice (regardless of fur/cloak). Dice are d5 for ranged acid, d3 for melee. 04:10:53 so armour slot, not jewel slots 04:11:03 yeah, sounds right 04:11:05 ??rebuild 04:11:05 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 04:11:09 oh cool, so fur mutation does something else :P 04:12:12 !tell |amethyst turns out it was just the tthing you fixed in d800d9ee, but cao hadn't gotten the fix yet, so i'm just rebuilding 04:12:12 amalloy: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 04:13:30 the iron giant (10C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 220 | AC/EV: 18/2 | Dam: 60 | 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(120), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison, 12drown | XP: 5362 | Sp: iron shot (3d37) [06!sil], sum.iron elementals [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 04:13:30 %??iron giant 04:16:49 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 04:26:53 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:27:49 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:28:03 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 04:35:32 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:35:47 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 04:36:21 -!- morfei has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:36:22 -!- morfei_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:37:07 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:37:25 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:02:25 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:02:39 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 05:08:34 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:12:09 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:25:14 -!- yaknyasn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:25:27 -!- tollymain has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:26:06 -!- infrashortfoo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:26:08 -!- rmd has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:37:48 -!- Eronarn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:38:51 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:39:50 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 05:45:30 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 05:47:05 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:47:06 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-776-g7a8d288 (34) 05:47:34 -!- mineral is now known as read 05:48:19 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Client Quit] 05:49:48 -!- tollymain has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:05:18 -!- Lucasterio has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:06:23 -!- R18 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:11:30 -!- uJellie has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:20:22 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 06:20:41 -!- onmyo is now known as dark_star 06:27:10 -!- iafm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:32:50 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:34:41 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:34:56 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:36:20 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:46:15 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:52:08 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:52:09 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:17:41 !tell Grunt Working prototype, although not exactly what I wanted: http://sprunge.us/WegZ?diff (thanks for your help) 07:17:42 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 07:18:40 !tell Grunt It'd be nice if I could either get the clouds outside the grates or not have to fix the monster in place so I could remove the grates, but I don't know if I can make callback see the pos where the monster died to do the los check 07:18:41 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 07:18:48 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: Farewell.] 07:19:43 !tell Grunt If I can't get any of that, I'll probably just make it smaller but with another decorative gimmick I have in mind (placing another cloud of a current type in an adjacent "connected" chamber) 07:19:44 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 07:20:13 Also suggestions welcome on improving the text 07:26:31 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:34:16 -!- bleak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:43:48 -!- Xjs|moonshine has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:46:56 is it intended that hounds on a level with stone walls require Tornado to win? 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10:00:45 Lasty: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 10:03:46 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:06:12 -!- Cab_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:09:31 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:16:23 you're not legendary?! 10:23:26 !tell Grunt Improved version, this works really well so I probably don't need to worry about the larger chamber thing: http://sprunge.us/VhiQ?diff 10:23:27 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 10:24:29 syncronized fog machines, a gammafunk innovation (tm) 10:30:31 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:30:48 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:30 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:36:20 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:41:47 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:46:58 <|amethyst> restarting scoring now 10:46:59 |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 10:47:18 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:51:08 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:33 !lg phantasmist won 10:52:34 3. phantasmist the Slayer (L27 DsSk of Ashenzari), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-12-09 10:26:51, with 23435197 points after 64301 turns and 8:57:02. 10:53:25 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:54:02 !lg phantasmist won x=cv 10:54:03 3. [cv=0.17] phantasmist the Slayer (L27 DsSk of Ashenzari), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-12-09 10:26:51, with 23435197 points after 64301 turns and 8:57:02. 10:55:33 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:55:49 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:52 -!- dealpete has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:52 |amethyst: not sure if you're at the point where you're fed up with CAO scoring enough to disable them, but if not I was wondering if we might have a link on the player page where they can report a problem. 10:57:02 I guess said link might just be to freenode webchat for ##crawl-dev 10:57:14 maybe that wouldn't be that helpful 10:57:18 <|amethyst> gammafunk: or tavern perhaps 10:57:22 oh, yeah, good idea 10:57:36 I just got an email from hong (cwz admin) about the CAO pages now showing the win of one of his users 10:57:42 <|amethyst> don't feel like restarting in the middle of the restart 10:57:45 s/now/not/ 10:57:52 oh no I mean, wrt reporting 10:58:02 since he didn't know who to ask either 10:58:08 <|amethyst> yeah 10:58:12 his email was actually a day or so ago 10:58:20 <|amethyst> I mean, I think it's a good idea, but I'm not adding the link right now 10:58:33 yeah, cool. 10:58:41 <|amethyst> because I just restarted it 20 or 30 minutes ago, and changing the pages requires another restart 10:58:59 <|amethyst> this is why all software should be written in Lisp 10:59:20 at least then I'd not have the only useful lisp I've written be in emacs lisp 10:59:27 <|amethyst> well... I guess it's probably possible to hotpatch it in Python 10:59:54 and I plan to try to move to vim+stuff anyhow when I get around to it, so rip that lisp even 11:00:01 <|amethyst> emacs lisp is probably my least favourite lisp 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:26 <|amethyst> well, my least favourite lisp that's still around 11:00:27 have you written any lisp that you've used outside of some academic thing? 11:00:55 <|amethyst> other than elisp and once upon a time some autocad scripting, not really 11:01:05 <|amethyst> I guess autocad's lisp is as bad as elisp 11:01:10 I've heard of various companies using it for specialized things internally, like travelocity or those sites that have to figure out the cheapest airfare 11:01:34 <|amethyst> reddit was written in Lisp before it was rewritten in (Python I think?) 11:01:38 wow 11:02:11 <|amethyst> I bet every single real-world use of Lisp you hear about these days involves Paul Graham 11:02:22 there aren't many CS departments teaching e.g. scheme in their intro CS course any more, as I understand things 11:02:24 <|amethyst> at least as a VC 11:02:33 -!- kuniqs has quit [Client Quit] 11:03:47 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I know I had some students this year who used DrRacket in high school CS 11:04:37 hotpatching... ob erlang 11:05:16 (and autolisp was terrible from the start. it also makes elisp look good.) 11:05:41 <|amethyst> but yeah, MIT's last 6.001 was several years ago 11:06:10 all these hipster clojure people are arguably real-worlding lisp imo 11:06:24 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:32 <|amethyst> yeah, and they probably aren't Paul Graham funded 11:06:37 <|amethyst> I should have said "Common Lisp" :) 11:11:03 There's a thread about crawl's difficulty design in the tavern, and of course that means talking about how effective kiting and luring is. 11:11:56 It makes me want to try an experimental branch where monsters that can see you continue to shout periodically, and when intelligent monsters shout, other intelligent monsters learn your exact position, enabling them to potentially cut off your path of travel 11:12:41 Stairs might still be too effective in that scenario 11:13:23 <|amethyst> I don't know if early game needs to be deadlier 11:13:43 <|amethyst> but having AI tactics ramp up with depth (or with monster type) would be interesting 11:13:52 Lasty: I think someone tried that 11:13:54 <|amethyst> centaur warriors with M_MAINTAIN_RANGE 11:13:58 it didnot go well 11:14:02 <|amethyst> would that person be bwr? 11:14:19 geekosaur: oh yeah? Tell me more! 11:14:41 |amethyst: heh, I'm not saying we need to make the monsters use good tactics in general . . . :) 11:14:43 <|amethyst> hm 11:14:44 basically with random monsters periodically shouting, it ended up with monsters everywhere shouting 11:14:48 <|amethyst> ah 11:14:50 almost continuously 11:14:52 <|amethyst> %git 4728e1c8 11:14:52 07MarvinPA02 * 0.16-a0-3926-g4728e1c: Don't make monsters constantly shout when out of LOS 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4728e1c8166e 11:15:00 yep 11:15:01 haha 11:15:10 <|amethyst> %git 5b960bf6 11:15:10 07MarvinPA02 * 0.16-a0-3915-g5b960bf: Allow monsters to shout when alerted if already awake 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5b960bf62b9c 11:15:10 that weas the commit that turned that experiemnt off 11:15:24 <|amethyst> lasted a day it looks like 11:15:34 !tell amalloy orc warriors have the highest weight in Orc now, so that makes sense 11:15:34 Grunt: OK, I'll let amalloy know. 11:15:39 "Don't make monsters constantly shout when out of LOS" -- my thought was that they'd only shout in LOS 11:15:41 yep. people were getting pages of shouts 11:15:52 <|amethyst> Grunt: do you still get plain orcs from bands? 11:15:59 !tell gammafunk mark the chambers as no_tele_into 11:16:00 Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 11:16:03 |amethyst: yes 11:16:20 but...what if I want players to be a part of the experiment... 11:16:20 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:16:30 haha 11:16:32 I should teleport them *into* the testing chamber 11:16:48 <|amethyst> Grunt: would you say that Orc:1 is significantly deadlier now? I haven't gotten there yet 11:17:03 yeah it is 11:17:05 gammafunk: I assume the egolem can't blink out of the chamber? :) 11:17:07 having played it myself 11:17:08 <|amethyst> Grunt: because I was thinking maybe Lair and Orc need more vertical segregation 11:17:33 <|amethyst> rather than having overlap in their D ranges 11:17:38 |amethyst: players seem to see a warlord there now with some regularity 11:17:40 so 11:17:59 <|amethyst> oh, that reminds me, there's a line in the dev docs that needs to change 11:18:04 Grunt: not it doesn't seem to ever 11:18:19 hrm, wonder why it doesn't though 11:18:31 gammafunk: think it's because: glass 11:18:36 <|amethyst> Grunt: 11:18:37 <|amethyst> Crawl is hard but try to balance your monsters. While it is true that Orc:1 11:18:37 <|amethyst> can show an orc knight, this is very rare. Hence it's probably a bad idea 11:18:38 <|amethyst> to use orc knights for an entry to the Orcish Mines. 11:18:51 heh 11:18:59 <|amethyst> It might still be a bad idea to use them for the entry, but I guess the "very rare" is no longer true 11:19:06 gammafunk: if you used grates, it'd be able to escape 11:19:13 Grunt: ah, interesting, thanks 11:19:17 gammafunk: you could: spells:none 11:19:22 yeah 11:19:24 to be on the safe side 11:19:33 but would Pakellas want to be safe... 11:19:48 Pakellas is intrigued! 11:19:49 <|amethyst> !send gammafunk D:4 juggernauts 11:19:49 Sending D:4 juggernauts to gammafunk. 11:20:02 we don't remove the fire from the oof at that entry 11:20:04 !send |amethyst D:1 centaur warriors 11:20:05 Sending D:1 centaur warriors to |amethyst. 11:20:07 but not to say we shouldn't 11:20:15 * geekosaur has been thinking about the Young Frankenstein scenario mentioned last night... 11:20:19 <|amethyst> Maybe I should rename amethyst_foddershock to amethyst_microwave 11:20:22 s/entry/D:1 arrival/ 11:20:26 !lg * ckiller=orb_of_fire D:1 11:20:27 3. password the Magician (L1 FoWn), blasted by an orb of fire (bolt of fire) on D:1 (shiori_arrival_whats_in_store_for_you) on 2014-01-14 13:21:01, with 0 points after 18 turns and 0:00:07. 11:20:49 <|amethyst> err, amethyst_zot_foddershock that is 11:21:11 that's what you get for digging, you silly bug!!! 11:23:39 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:23:51 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 11:27:46 -!- Gorgo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:34:35 -!- } has joined ##crawl-dev 11:35:22 <}> Hey, thunderdome sprint seems to be severely bugged, trying to spawn nonexistant monsters (which causes it to loop indefinitely) and spawning infinite amounts of spores which covers every tile on the map 11:35:26 <}> are these known bugs? 11:37:37 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-777-g3704a81: Monster spell: Awaken Earth. 10(21 hours ago, 6 files, 169+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3704a81a433f 11:37:37 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-778-g1d7b1b8: Convert the deep elf elementalist into a normal foe with Awaken Earth. 10(20 hours ago, 13 files, 44+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1d7b1b87039d 11:37:37 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-779-gf9919a2: Remove deep elf fighters; add deep elf archers. 10(7 weeks ago, 37 files, 161+ 146-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f9919a29d5b7 11:37:49 I need more pakellas messages 11:39:03 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-780-gd1db97e: Convert Chaotic Mirror into Call of Chaos and give to Mnoleg. 10(12 hours ago, 11 files, 113+ 82-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d1db97e94c81 11:40:05 <|amethyst> }: I don't think so, unless it's on mantis 11:40:12 <}> !source arena_sprint.des:221 11:40:14 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/sprint/arena_sprint.des#l221 11:40:20 <}> for example it tries to spawn "spider" which doesnt exist 11:40:30 <|amethyst> hm 11:40:37 <|amethyst> what would be a good replacement there 11:40:54 <|amethyst> round 1-2 so redback etc is probably too much 11:41:02 <}> spiderling? 11:41:05 <}> or what are they called 11:41:22 <|amethyst> "giant cockroach w:20 / spider / worm", 11:41:26 <|amethyst> is kind of weird anyway 11:41:39 <|amethyst> I'd think scorpion would be a better fit for the alternates 11:41:49 <}> I haven't figured out the giant spore problem, but essentially the entire map, every tile except the one you stand one is covered by the spores 11:41:50 <|amethyst> not sure what to replace giant spore with either 11:41:59 <}> s/one/on 11:42:18 <|amethyst> giant spores should not exist except as fedhas spawns 11:42:47 <}> So that's what was causing the bug? 11:43:01 <|amethyst> not sure what exactly is causing it, but it's probably related 11:43:41 spider (10s) | Spd: 15 | HD: 5 | HP: 17-29 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 1008(poison:10-20) | web sense | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 132 | Sz: tiny | Int: brainless. 11:43:41 <}> %??spider 11:43:46 <}> were these removed? 11:44:25 yes iirc 11:45:18 %git c776e22 11:45:18 07Grunt02 * 0.18-a0-159-gc776e22: Remove plain spiders from generation properly. 10(3 weeks ago, 4 files, 2+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c776e2240a34 11:45:53 <}> then I guess a :%s+spider+scorpion+ would fix the first problem, not sure about the spores 11:47:22 <}> this is what happens -- http://i.imgur.com/5O3tSK8.jpg 11:47:24 -!- Rast-- has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:47:58 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:21 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:49:49 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:50:48 }: looks legit 11:50:48 ontoclasm: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 11:50:57 !messages 11:50:57 (1/3) |amethyst said (22h 43s ago): not sure if you saw, but Baconsquid/Baconkiddo was unhappy with the loss of borders on local tiles icons (and kept calling it broken, which led me to blow up on him :/) 11:51:13 !messages 11:51:13 (1/2) |amethyst said (21h 59m 17s ago): I like the new look, but what do you think about a subtle (dark purple maybe?) 1-pixel border between icons in panels? 11:51:16 <}> I think it occurs during a "LIGHTNING ROUND" 11:51:22 !messages 11:51:22 (1/1) |amethyst said (21h 57m 9s ago): maybe the complaint was just about darkness instead? johnstein says Baconkiddo later said it looked better on a different computer....??? 11:51:23 <}> !source arena_sprint.des:854 11:51:24 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/sprint/arena_sprint.des#l854 11:51:37 |amethyst: hm 11:52:01 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: I wonder if there's something weird in the colour profile... but that wouldn't make it all the way to the sheets would it? 11:52:02 <}> huh line 854 didnt match the line in my arena_sprint.des 11:52:14 |amethyst: in C++ order of operations, is x *= 5 /4 the same as x *= 5; x /= 4;? 11:52:21 how do you mean? 11:52:41 <}> Lasty, /msg geordi precedence x *= 5 /4 11:52:45 <|amethyst> Lasty: no 11:52:49 <}> it will show you the correct precedence of whatever you wrote 11:52:52 <|amethyst> Lasty: it is the same as x *= 1 11:52:58 }: thanks! 11:53:14 heh, I like that }: looks like a frown 11:53:19 <}> and yes you probably want 5.0/4.0 11:53:25 |amethyst: yeah, I thoguht they might be the case. Thanks! 11:53:26 <|amethyst> well 11:53:32 }: we don't _do_ floats 11:53:37 <}> that's a double 11:53:47 we do sometimes though! 11:53:48 <}> =P 11:53:50 <|amethyst> we do occasionally, but not when we can help it 11:53:51 touche sir 11:54:01 even floatier 11:54:08 * gammafunk floats one 11:54:08 it may not look cool, but x *= 5; x /=4; is fine. 11:54:27 that seems to be how we typically do this. 11:54:31 <|amethyst> or x = x * 5 / 4; 11:54:38 ah 11:54:46 <}> math.ceil((1000 + crawl.random2(500)) / data.round_enemies) 11:54:49 <}> something there is wrong 11:54:56 <}> and causes infinite spawning for the spores 11:55:06 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:55:12 <}> because it only happens during lightning rounds 11:57:04 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-781-gf0c3515: Changelog through 0.18-a0-780-gd1db97e. 10(36 seconds ago, 1 file, 11+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f0c3515aca4c 11:57:12 <}> is there some way to debug the dlua in game? check variable values etc 11:57:27 _Pakellas says, "Perhaps this approach will lead me to a solution." The electric golem is engulfed in acidic fog. The acid corrodes the electric golem! The electric golem is destroyed! Pakellas says, "Just as I predicted!" 11:58:07 <|amethyst> }: you can use the dlua console & ctrl-t but that won't really help with local variables 11:58:23 <|amethyst> so sticking in crawl.mpr is probably the best bet 11:58:35 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:58:47 ontoclasm, |amethyst: I have hard time seeing any background on the quick select tiles either, there is supposed to be one? 11:59:30 <|amethyst> there's not supposed to be a background except for worn/etc things I think? 11:59:50 ah, ok 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:10 https://imgur.com/CiGta6P 12:00:55 I preferred the old style to this, but I wouldn't trust my artistic taste :P 12:01:15 <}> very minimalist, I hear that's hip these days 12:02:14 Medar has a custom metallica skin and players dolls for his local Tiles 12:03:06 -!- siepu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:03:13 <}> hm 12:03:21 don't mind the lack of background in menus though 12:03:40 i guess i could bring it back for the local tiles grid 12:03:46 and not menus 12:03:48 but I do think the worn background color looks a bit off without the border 12:03:56 especially when items reach the border 12:04:30 let me give it a shot 12:04:40 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/trunk-updates-13-december-2015 12:05:27 "slightly>." 12:05:36 oops 12:05:41 12:07:01 deep elf mage (06e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 20-35 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 211 | Sp: b.magma (3d14), stone arrow (3d12) / flame tongue (3d9), sticky flame range (3d4), fireball (3d14), throw flame (3d6) / freeze, throw icicle (3d14), sum.ice beast / magic dart (3d4), force lance (3d10), battlesphere, mystic blast (3d12) / mystic blast (3d12), slow, b.venom (3d11), blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 12:07:01 %??deep elf mage 12:07:20