00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:24 huh, github can render psds, interesting 00:02:46 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-23-g19353e1 (34) 00:04:56 -!- McMoop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:05:11 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 00:05:16 How does github render post-traumatic-stress disorders? 00:05:37 oh sorry, you said psds 00:07:55 |amethyst: i love your runrest post 00:08:10 "here are the options, but they're going to kill you, the solution is an exercise for the reader" 00:08:59 and this is why all funguses will be removed. 00:09:02 fungi? 00:09:05 fungi. 00:10:25 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 00:11:11 fungae 00:11:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:11:57 |amethyst: actually dont you want runrest_ignore_message += hunger 00:12:47 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:15:02 fungons 00:15:09 where's this runrest post? 00:19:32 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:24:28 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:44 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27:23 ?/runrest 00:27:23 Matching entries (1): grinding_noise[2]: add the line "runrest_ignore_message = grinding noise" to your rc file if this is interrupting your resting or your running. 00:28:23 if only it was that simple irl 00:28:43 oh hi johnstein 00:29:11 hi neckro! wrong window? 00:29:53 <|amethyst> chequers: I don't think runrest_ignore_message += hunger will actually do anything, since the interrupt is not because of a message 00:32:52 ??grinding_noise 00:32:53 grinding noise[1/2]: This noise means a monster is digging out of your LOS. If it's happening rapidly, it's in a vault designed solely to annoy you. Can come from boring beetles, formicids, cacodemons, deep troll earth mages, an eye of devastation's energy bolt, or any monster with a wand of digging. Can also come from you with a disintegration wand of course. 00:33:21 !learn e grinding_noise[1 s/boring beetles, // 00:33:28 grinding noise[1/2]: This noise means a monster is digging out of your LOS. If it's happening rapidly, it's in a vault designed solely to annoy you. Can come from formicids, cacodemons, deep troll earth mages, an eye of devastation's energy bolt, or any monster with a wand of digging. Can also come from you with a disintegration wand of course. 00:34:27 hm, I guess that's very technically out of the spirit of keeping learndb in sync with stable 00:35:46 stable is going to be 0.17 right away anyway.... 00:36:59 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:37:10 yeah 00:37:16 hence, 'very technically' 00:37:38 hm, can you actually cause a grinding noise now? I wonder 00:37:58 monsters digging offscreen? 00:37:59 you, the player? 00:38:01 yes 00:38:08 with /disint 00:38:10 as the entry notes 00:38:14 yes, I was about to say 00:38:19 well 00:38:21 I changed it a while back 00:38:51 -!- cr0ne has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:38:56 yes you can, but only using fog or similar LOS-tweaking effects. 00:39:14 otherwise you get "the explodes into countless fragments" 00:39:15 IOOD, step away 00:39:20 hm 00:39:32 iood is very unreliable against out-of-LOS targets 00:39:50 since it's specifically intended to dissipate once out of LOS, iirc; I don't remember the actual code involved 00:39:57 it's a range i i r c 00:40:03 <|amethyst> disintegrate through clouds would probably do it? 00:40:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:40:16 |amethyst: yeah that's what I did 00:40:27 c.f. "fog or similar... effects..." 00:40:30 <|amethyst> doh 00:40:42 doh?? 00:40:42 <|amethyst> doh 00:41:05 ??doh 00:41:06 |amethyst[1/22]: <|amethyst> doh 00:41:17 I don't understand 00:41:46 <|amethyst> I say "doh" a lot 00:42:00 <|amethyst> think Homer Simpson 00:42:22 * Grunt is annoyed. 00:42:26 <.< 00:44:53 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:45:55 !learn e grinding_noise[1 s/bolt/bolt, an IOOD/ 00:45:56 grinding noise[1/2]: This noise means a monster is digging out of your LOS. If it's happening rapidly, it's in a vault designed solely to annoy you. Can come from formicids, cacodemons, deep troll earth mages, an eye of devastation's energy bolt, an IOOD, or any monster with a wand of digging. 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ZZZzzz…] 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:27 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:30 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-23-g19353e1 (34) 01:04:36 !tell chequers when you get a chance, can you set up https://crawl.project357.org/rc-files/0.17/ ? thanks 01:04:36 elliptic: OK, I'll let chequers know. 01:07:00 |amethyst (or rax): when you get a chance, can you set up http://crawl.akrasiac.org/cgi-bin/teams-0.17 on CAO? thanks 01:08:34 what's wrong with the old logo 01:09:01 elliptic: they should exist now 01:09:01 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 01:09:23 (you can always just ping me btw 01:09:25 !messages 01:09:25 (1/1) elliptic said (4m 49s ago): when you get a chance, can you set up https://crawl.project357.org/rc-files/0.17/ ? thanks 01:09:52 <|amethyst> elliptic: done 01:13:29 thanks 01:14:26 -!- Gilihad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:15:40 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:18:04 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-23-g19353e1 (34) 01:21:50 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:31:53 Lightli: i just think it looks outdated 01:33:57 the new one feels a bit too sleek and modern :v 01:38:43 hm 01:39:04 -!- Chocolate is now known as Guest45880 01:39:31 -!- Guest45880 has quit [Client Quit] 01:39:58 at the very least it should be an option or something 01:40:17 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:40:30 i... don't really know how it could be an option 01:40:39 like, it's part of the images 01:44:16 -!- setecastronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:45:00 just let it be the default option, and the only option you can choose from 01:47:41 great crawl dev reflexes 01:47:46 "add another option" 01:50:10 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:54:50 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-23-g19353e1 01:56:26 gammafunk: the illusion of choice! 01:56:40 a powerful placebo effect... 01:56:58 heh 01:57:12 I'm not sure I like that option, could there be an option to remove that option? 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03:23:25 -!- MetallicDragon has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 03:24:01 TZer0: the "forums" link on CUE webtiles page is broken btw. 03:25:33 oh. 03:27:05 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:27:20 how.. on earth did that happen 03:27:32 -!- Kramin42 has quit [Client Quit] 03:29:14 Medar: do I have to restart webtiles for change to take effect? 03:29:49 yes 03:29:52 at least for most things 03:30:53 guess I'll restart the server while I add 0.17 03:31:06 it has been fixed, but I wouldn't want to interrupt people playing :P 03:31:17 makes sense 03:31:41 the tournament is starting on friday, if you didn't see 03:32:07 should be fine 03:32:10 -!- kaiza has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:35:07 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:51:16 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:54:23 -!- koolatron has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:54:42 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:54:59 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:03:14 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:04:17 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:19:55 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:19:57 -!- torax__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:33:16 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:41:31 -!- Kramin has quit [Client Quit] 04:42:54 -!- WhodaMan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:51:06 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 04:58:11 -!- vev_ is now known as vev 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:31:55 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:36:12 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:48:38 -!- Kittykai_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:49:16 -!- Gilihad has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:55:14 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:58:37 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:06:46 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:11:19 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:18:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 06:19:54 -!- Weeksy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:21:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:22:09 -!- StarButterfly has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:30:10 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:31:05 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:41:14 -!- ventricule has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:43:54 -!- kawatan has quit [Quit: Bye] 06:51:02 Winning game with 0 score 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10045 by FishServ 06:52:30 woah 06:52:33 cpo strikes again 06:54:47 it's almost like... ram corruption 06:54:56 but extremely specific in effect 06:56:55 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:58:35 -!- FishSer_v has joined ##crawl-dev 06:59:11 chequers: spooky huh 06:59:53 did any other arenabug games have 0 score? 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Is this wizmode? 08:14:46 -!- serq has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:15:32 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 08:21:14 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:27:44 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:29:10 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:29:21 !bug 10045 08:29:21 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10045 08:29:37 Xenobreeder: it's a bug 08:30:11 Cute. Thank you. 08:31:53 -!- pblur_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:32:40 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 08:33:30 -!- TwoSpot has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:37:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:39:42 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:40:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:44:46 -!- serq has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:50:40 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 08:52:49 -!- Krymise has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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[2015-11-02 14:26:10] ZactheCaz the Cudgeler (L4 DsBe of Trog) killed the ghost of admarant the Insei, an amateur DsMo on turn 2864. (D:3) 09:27:42 probably forgetting everything 09:28:39 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:01 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:34:20 <|amethyst> Medar: https://github.com/neilmoore/dgamelaunch-config/commit/030fb6c7 https://github.com/neilmoore/dgamelaunch-config/commit/ced39754 09:34:55 yeah, thanks, merged those to my branch 09:35:32 Stable (0.17) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-b1-15-g0f5fb43 09:37:26 <|amethyst> Medar: then 1. create and chown new inprogress and rcfile directories 2. create links under meta 3. restart dgl crawl-inotify-dglwhere 4. update the bot (milestones, logfile, and version command) 5. play and quite one normal game and one sprint 6. symlink milestones/logfiles into the meta directory 09:37:39 <|amethyst> and restart webtiles at some point I guess 09:37:59 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:38:33 <|amethyst> in step 1 you can also copy rcfiles from trunk (but be sure to either cp -p, or chown them afterwards) 09:39:16 ok, thanks, let me save this for 0.18... 09:39:51 <|amethyst> the bot update is here: https://github.com/crawl/sizzell/commit/8d10698 09:41:38 <|amethyst> err, oops, 2 and 6 were the same thing; probably easier to do that after playing the games, so you're linking existent files 09:42:38 <|amethyst> I guess I skipped "dgl publish --confirm", which I usually do after step 1 09:43:23 <|amethyst> Medar: if you're writing that down, maybe write it down on the wiki because I'll forget next year :) 09:44:04 well, I'm just copy pasting this 09:45:09 clearly should have just looked up irc logs from when 0.16 was branched 09:47:15 -!- gastrox has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:48:39 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:49:17 -!- RBrandon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:49:45 -!- henryci has quit [Quit: henryci] 09:54:29 -!- serq has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:55:38 -!- Eksell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:55:56 -!- Eksell has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:33 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:57:36 time for some crashes... 09:57:39 Ishouldbestudying (L2 DgWz) (D:1) 09:57:39 Yermak (L11 DEFE) (D (Sprint)) 09:57:40 Raultor (L2 VpEn) (D:1) 09:57:41 chonchonts (L1 DsAK) (D:1) 09:57:42 Webtiles server restarted. 09:57:44 glosham (L7 DsCK) (D:4) 09:57:46 mrath (L4 MiFi) (D:3) 09:57:49 Scarn (L4 FoAK) (D:3) 09:57:51 Rayvis (L9 FeEn) (D:7) 09:57:53 xeno23 (L17 DDNe) (Bazaar) 09:57:55 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:56 Nico3ck (L27 NaGl) (Zig:17) 09:57:58 Alipheese (L11 NaFi) (D:10) 09:58:01 Uberwunderbarhen (L12 OpFi) (Lab) 09:58:03 confidenceinterval (L24 GrFi) (Tomb:1) 09:58:06 WhatIsLove (L27 FoFi) (Tomb:2) 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:01:55 think that does it 10:02:27 should I contact someone to add urls for scoring/sequell? 10:03:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:07:23 <|amethyst> I can add them to scoring, though I won't restart until I get a few more servers, because it takes so long 10:07:30 <|amethyst> tell snark for Sequell 10:07:41 <|amethyst> I assume same URLs as before, but s/16/17/ ? 10:07:45 yes 10:08:29 <|amethyst> Medar: you linked in logfile-sprint but not logfile 10:09:03 oh, right, actually I didn't quit a normal game 10:09:12 <|amethyst> oh, yeah 10:09:21 <|amethyst> apache doesn't show broken symlinks in directory listings 10:10:01 <|amethyst> okay, I did 10:10:04 <|amethyst> and it's there 10:10:26 ty :) 10:11:35 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 10:11:49 !tell greensnark CXC now has 0.17 (same URL structure as 0.16): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/meta/0.17/milestones etc. 10:11:49 Medar: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 10:15:15 apparently devwiki has some spam: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?do=index 10:15:35 anyone know if it's possible to delete pages completely? 10:15:51 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:15:58 also ban/remove users I guess 10:16:15 -!- rtab is now known as rastdroid 10:17:40 <|amethyst> Medar: &do=admin&page=revert helps with deleting things 10:18:34 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 10:19:27 -!- serq has quit [Client Quit] 10:21:07 <|amethyst> hmm, the "reno techs" one wheals reverted manually I think 10:21:12 <|amethyst> and still shows up in the index 10:21:13 <|amethyst> let's see 10:21:44 -!- Xelif has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:22:08 But what will you do without the precious Portuguese real estate advice? 10:22:43 <|amethyst> hm 10:24:15 <|amethyst> aha 10:24:23 <|amethyst> there were two blank lines 10:24:47 <|amethyst> which meant it wasn't "empty" as far as dokuwiki's remove-the-pagename logic was concerned 10:25:02 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:25:37 -!- njorth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:25:40 -!- G-Flex| has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:13 -!- Napkin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:26 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:29:29 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:29:58 -!- hypermatt has quit [Disconnected by services] 10:30:08 -!- hypermatt has joined ##crawl-dev 10:30:19 -!- Rast has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:32:43 -!- Mindiell_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:33:11 |amethyst: Added a section here, feel free to edit: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=maintaining_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles 10:33:12 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:34:47 <|amethyst> Medar: thanks 10:35:03 <|amethyst> I don't think I can admin users 10:35:19 -!- Smello has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:20 -!- Vizer has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:20 -!- swartzcr has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:21 -!- fiyawerx has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:21 -!- G-Flex has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:22 -!- kunwon1 has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:22 -!- rhayde` has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:22 -!- Mindiell has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:22 -!- tw_ has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:23 -!- Elsi has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:23 -!- DashNine has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:23 -!- amalloy_ has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:24 -!- smiler has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:24 -!- dustinm` has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:24 -!- Annabella has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:24 -!- Lohengramm has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:24 -!- Napkin has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:25 -!- constantinexvi has quit [*.net *.split] 10:35:51 -!- dustinm` has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:01 -!- amalloy_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:25 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 10:36:29 that page and the server setup page should linked from the main page I guess 10:37:14 wonder if I should move them to dcss namespace or something like :dcss:server: 10:38:26 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:39:04 -!- Elsi has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:10 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:39:11 <|amethyst> probably makes sense 10:39:17 -!- archaeo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:28 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:58 !seen Lasty 10:42:58 I last saw Lasty at Mon Nov 2 12:43:15 2015 UTC (2h 59m 43s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Leaving.'. 10:43:10 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:44:36 -!- Lohengramm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:49 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:45:43 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:46:02 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:47:17 -!- njorth has quit [Client Quit] 10:48:21 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:49:19 -!- rastdroid has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:50:04 oh the move plugin didn't make redirect pages... 10:51:54 !time 10:51:55 Time: Nov 02, 2015, 03:51:55 PM, UTC. The 2015 0.17 tournament starts in 4 days, 4 hours, 8 minutes and 4 seconds. 10:53:33 <|amethyst> ??server 10:53:33 servers[1/3]: USA: {cao}, {cszo}, {cbro}; EU: {cdo}, {cue}, {cxc}; KR: {cwz}; JP: {lld}; AU: {cpo} 10:53:35 <|amethyst> ??server[2] 10:53:35 servers[2/3]: Website list / instructions http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto 10:53:37 <|amethyst> ??server[3 10:53:37 servers[3/3]: Experimental servers: {cbzz} 10:53:51 <|amethyst> ?/setting_up 10:53:52 Matching entries (1): dgl[3]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles 10:53:55 <|amethyst> ??dgl[3] 10:53:55 dgl[3/3]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles 10:54:08 <|amethyst> !learn edit dgl[3] s/setting/dcss:server:setting/ 10:54:08 dgl[3/3]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:server:setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles 10:54:19 nice 10:54:32 I did add redirect, but it takes 10 seconds... 10:56:40 ??tournament 10:56:40 tournament[1/5]: The 0.17 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC Nov 6 to 20:00 UTC Nov 22. Tournament pages will be forthcoming! 10:58:34 -!- MetallicDragon has quit [Client Quit] 10:59:46 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:45 woooooo! 11:03:38 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:04:35 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:05:10 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:09:09 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:03 -!- habitualliar has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:45 I'm looking at the source on gitHub; I'm guessing Master is longterm development and Stone Soup [Number] is each of the stable releases? 11:15:40 yeah 11:16:00 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:07 those are release branches, so they only get bugfixes mostly cherry picked from the master branch 11:16:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:18:23 the point of actual releases are marked with tags within those branches 11:18:36 Ahh well. I'll write a little feature tweak to start. I consider it a bugfix, but it isn't really. If you try to use Controlled Blink (or ?Blink) onto a square with a monster, you randomly blink instead. If this was an accident (invisible monster, no see invisible intrinsic) that's fine, but if it's a visible creature and bad keypress; it should just go to the OK, Then! error and not use the iterm. 11:20:10 sound reasonable 11:21:54 targeter code might not be the friendlies place to start of with, but that doesn't sound too complicated I guess :) 11:22:39 I'm sure smite targeted stuff is simpler than beas. 11:22:43 *beams. 11:23:06 in any case, you'll want to work against master basically always 11:24:27 <|amethyst> FR: _find_cblink_target uses a loop instead of recursion 11:26:36 -!- Lasty_1 is now known as Lasty_ 11:26:43 <|amethyst> habitualliar: IMO it should treat it like it would treat selecting a wall 11:26:58 !send |amethyst TCO 11:26:58 Sending TCO to |amethyst. 11:26:59 <|amethyst> habitualliar: and just ask for a new target 11:27:37 wall resets targeter to self, out of sight doesn't... 11:28:03 -!- setecastronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:29:48 -!- archaeo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:30:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:31:37 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:38:49 -!- vale__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:46:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:48:30 -!- serq has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:51:57 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:54:19 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:54:31 -!- apparentbliss has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:57 -!- seriallos has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03:22 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:15 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-23-g19353e1 (34) 12:09:48 -!- Ruby__ has quit [Client Quit] 12:10:36 -!- Ruby__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:52 -!- djinni has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:11:04 Hello 12:11:56 Hi 12:12:03 Oh werewolfy one 12:12:54 Yep 12:13:09 I would love to make it locally but I have no clue how to. 12:13:10 You read this thread yet? : https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9007 12:13:25 My dabblings in crawls source have been limited 12:13:37 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:45 Do you have it compiling from source on your computer yet? 12:14:42 Nope, like I said, I'm completely new to this kinda stuff. I'd like to learn though 12:15:37 kk 12:15:47 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:16:21 I'd like to just make a werewolf as simply as I can in the beginning. Just set aptitudes, leveling and abilities at the start 12:16:33 Just to get an idea of what I'm even doing 12:16:35 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/develop/patch_guide.txt 12:16:37 Sure 12:16:49 That link has instructions for basic patch writing 12:17:27 Basically use the git commands to get your checkout, and make sure you can compile stock 12:17:45 Alright. 12:18:47 -!- Final has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:18:56 Is there any compiler I should get specifically? 12:20:00 I don't know; I don't have it offline at the moment 12:20:00 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/INSTALL.txt 12:20:07 has building instructions 12:21:53 Alright. I have no idea what I'm doing, but I'll try. 12:22:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:31:49 Ok, I have no clue what I'm supposed to download, I think once I get that down I can learn how to do everything else. But I have no clue what I am supposed to download to get crawl to compile. 12:33:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:34:33 Ok, so I downloaded this https://github.com/git-for-windows/build-extra/releases/tag/git-sdk-1.0.1 12:34:54 -!- Rewans has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:37:57 What OS are you running? 12:38:16 Windows 7 12:38:25 I believe 32 bit 12:38:33 OK. 12:38:39 Do you have visual studio? 12:38:49 Nope 12:38:54 That's the only environment I've developed for windows from. 12:39:05 I'm sure it's possible with others... 12:39:05 Is it free? 12:39:21 Not unless you're a university student typically 12:39:32 Like I said though, I'm not actually a crawl-dev 12:39:43 I just dabble a bit 12:40:05 The most I wanna do is just make a VERY basic race. 12:41:24 The problem with that old werewolf draft is fairly obvious. I'm not going to say it's impossible; but it would indeed by really hard to balance between the two forms powers. 12:42:03 Oh, mine isn't really like that, it's more like a demonspawn but without random mutations 12:42:28 Hmm... 12:42:31 ??bearkin 12:42:31 bearkin[1/5]: Experimental BEAR race that makes solid bearserkers and bear wizards. You get lots of bear hp and bear claws and bear fangs and even more bear claws. Playable on beartato (CBRO)! Mostly dead. 12:42:34 But for now, I just want to make a race that starts with claws, fangs, fur, etc and the right aptitudes 12:42:36 Like that? 12:42:55 It's kinda like that 12:43:05 Ill send you a link to the post I made 12:43:20 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18116 12:43:48 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:21 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:47:22 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:49:23 Agreed, this isn't the same as that proposal; just thought it might have some ideas you could use. 12:51:48 Oh...that's actually really easy; sinceit has no new mutations unique to it you'd just need to add it to the race listing... 12:52:51 Save the howling (a)bility; that would probably be a new mutation to code in with related spell-like effect. 12:53:09 I'd have no problem leaving that out XD 12:54:13 15 is a little early for the ultimate version; maybe 8, 16, 24; instead? 12:54:39 Sure, that sounds a bit more fair 12:54:45 I could write a patch for you, if you like. It'd probably need some Tough Skin too though (no armour will mean really bad AC). 12:55:16 Tough Skin, and maybe deformed, instead of just no armor 12:55:26 I think no armour is needed 12:55:36 To dkeep ot unique 12:55:39 Yeah 12:55:40 I can't spell 12:55:44 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:55:48 Maybe make it more robust 12:55:59 +10% HP per werewolf level 12:55:59 Like, I'd consider no weapons as well; felid restrictions 12:56:33 Yeah 12:56:37 Yea version I is like starts as a human...becomes a troll with time. Version II is like...starts with something similar to Dragon Form as an (a)bility. It's interesting, but IDK if it's that unique really. 12:56:56 Like it would be a really beefy felid 12:57:53 Felid is the most hated race. Unsure we want another (and that's just a wolf; not a werewolf at that point). 12:57:57 Without extra lives 12:58:12 True 12:58:33 +3! HP, no weapons or armour, etc. that's like halfway between a troll and a felid. 12:58:47 That's why I was thinking deformed now, not full no armor 12:59:05 because werewolves are humanoid 12:59:07 There might be a niche for Troll-like race that doesn't completely suck with magic, maybe? 12:59:11 -!- tw__ is now known as tw_ 12:59:13 !apt fe 12:59:13 Fe: Fighting: 0, Short: N/A, Long: N/A, Axes: N/A, Maces: N/A, Polearms: N/A, Staves: N/A, Slings: N/A, Bows: N/A, Xbows: N/A, Throw: N/A, Armour: N/A, Dodge: 3, Stealth: 4, Shields: N/A, UC: 0, Splcast: -1, Conj: -1, Hexes: 4!, Charms: 2, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: 4!, Tmut: 1, Fire: -1, Ice: -1, Air: -1, Earth: -1, Poison: -1, Inv: 0, Evo: 1, Exp: -1, HP: -4*, MP: 1 12:59:14 !apt tr 12:59:15 Tr: Fighting: -2*, Short: -2, Long: -2, Axes: -2, Maces: -1, Polearms: -2, Staves: -2, Slings: -4*, Bows: -4*, Xbows: -4*, Throw: -1, Armour: -2, Dodge: -2, Stealth: -4*, Shields: -2, UC: 0, Splcast: -5*, Conj: -3*, Hexes: -4*, Charms: -4*, Summ: -3*, Nec: -2, Tloc: -3*, Tmut: -3, Fire: -3*, Ice: -3*, Air: -4*, Earth: -1, Poison: -3*, Inv: -1*, Evo: -3*, Exp: -1, HP: 3!, MP: -1* 13:00:02 Yeah, that is actually like a middle ground between those two 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:08 -!- heliob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:00:22 Not horrible with magic, but doesn't die to everything in one hit. 13:00:39 And can still use weapons 13:00:47 but probably won't 13:01:05 Like WW: Fighting: 1, Short: N/A, Long: N/A, Axes: N/A, Maces: N/A, Polearms: N/A, Staves: N/A, Slings: N/A, Bows: N/A, Xbows: N/A, Throw: N/A, Armour: N/A, Dodge: 2, Stealth: 3, Shields: N/A, UC: 0, Splcast: -1, Conj: 1, Hexes: 0, Charms: 1, Summ: 0, Nec: 1, Tloc: 0, Tmut: 3!, Fire: -1, Ice: 1, Air: 1, Earth: 1, Poison: 0, Inv: 0, Evo: 1, Exp: -1, HP: 3!, MP: 2 13:01:33 Felid equipment restrictions, Troll HP; decent with magic. Maybe... 13:01:38 That looks pretty good 13:02:31 Because if you add shaggy fur and tough skin, that will make for a solid boost of AC 13:03:06 and you can have good EV and not complete trash AC 13:03:07 Shaggy Fur and Tough Skin together is like 6 AC (not good; but better than a Felid's 3 or an Op's 1.) 13:03:44 It isn't amazing, which is why I was thinking deformed would work better. 13:04:07 Because a werewolf is still humanoid 13:04:10 You could give it auxilliaries without body armour (like draconians). 13:04:40 Yeah! Actually the draconian system would work really well "Your fur grows thicker" or something like that 13:04:44 Hat, cloak, boots? I guess...hmm... 13:05:18 There's another CYC Bcadren proposal that's a little related one sec. 13:06:00 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=17131&p=234718&hilit=mongrelman#p234718 13:06:12 the hilit= is because I had to use the search feature. 13:06:23 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:06:49 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:07:22 That is pretty similar, but that post just seemed like a guy wanted a race with all the mutations he thought was cool, instead of giving it a theme. 13:07:37 were cool* 13:07:40 Idea in that one was maximizing auxilliary attacks; which I think is the similar to what would work with Werewolves. 13:08:28 Spiny is a little underused; though it doesn't fit werewolves thematically. 13:08:46 Yeah 13:09:04 I'll look through the list of mutations, I'll see if there is anything else that fits 13:09:55 Well it's important to have an actual gameplay niche (the race PLAYS differently than other races) not just a thematic one. 13:12:08 Yeah, I was thinking this would be a beefy unarmed fighter who can wear armor (not really effectively though) and can still be decent with magic 13:12:14 Wolf (Felid equipment restrictions and Troll HP/UC) kinda is unique; but IDK if it's wanted. Humanoid werewolf; idk how to make it unique really. 13:12:47 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:13:26 Transformation theme IS kinda unique; but it could easily be figity and hated like Vp. 13:13:30 !apt tm 13:13:30 Could not understand "tm" 13:13:34 !apt transmutations 13:13:35 Tmut: Mf: 3!, Sp: 3!, Fe: 1, Fo: 1, HE: 1, Vp: 1, DE: 1, Hu: 0, Na: 0, Op: 0, Dr: 0, VS: 0, Dg: -1, DD: -1, Ce: -1, Ds: -1, Ko: -1, Gh: -1, Mi: -2, Mu: -2, Gr: -2, Te: -2, Og: -3, Tr: -3, HO: -3, Ha: -4* 13:13:59 Ruby__: you don't need Visual Studio; any text editor will do, but I recommend one like Sublime, Notepad++, or UltraEdit for working on code. 13:14:13 or VI/Emacs if you're into that 13:14:31 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:41 those are all free, FWIW 13:15:25 Felid equipment restrictions, with a gargoyle/draconian +AC level thing, good HP, sub-par MP, decent with magic, unholy status, gradually developing mutations, great UC 13:16:08 the milestones that show up in the lobby - is that not in 0.17? 13:16:14 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:16:21 looks like it's trunk only 13:16:54 maybe... maybe... 13:17:09 was hoping that would be active for the 0.17 tournament 13:17:14 I don't think there is any race that is like that. It's kinda niche but it would be an interesting race 13:17:48 Draconian +AC would be ok; Gargoyle is very high. 13:18:22 Good HP AND Good MP would be interesting; nothing has both. Felid equipment restrictions is already giving up something... 13:18:49 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:18:58 That would be nice, because yeah, not being able to wear anything is a big restriction 13:19:53 habitualliar: demigods have good HP and good MP 13:19:54 Not able to wear anything; no ranged attacks except conjurations...unable to use good gods, despite being 'living'. Holy and Silver Vuln (rarely comes up but BADDDD when it does). 13:20:06 Lasty_: OH...derp, yea they do. 13:20:22 But they can 13:20:27 can't worship gods* 13:20:44 (demigods) 13:20:49 Actually draconians have more innate AC than gargoyles till XL 15 13:21:08 4+0.333XL instead of 0.6*XL 13:21:20 yes except that means nothing because they can't wear real armor 13:21:42 you gotta at least gargoyles 2 AC for being able to wear a robe 13:21:44 also for some incomprehensible reason gargoyles get increased gdr 13:21:54 Cuz gargoyle 13:21:55 because what we need is more thinking about GDR :( 13:22:24 0.18 gonna have to be the GDR overhaul 13:22:27 Yea Innate AC, but no armour (maybe auxilliaries)...felid equipment restrictions...Troll HP, decent with magic. It -could- work. 13:22:37 giving the highest AC race an invisible boost in it isn't probably a good place to start 13:23:11 Habit, want me to type up all this stuff in one place so we can have it down. 13:23:15 that sounds like... bears? 13:23:40 All the abilities, aptitudes, level bonuses etc. 13:23:42 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:48 "felid equipment restrictions" -- we really don't need another race like that IMO. It's bad enough to have one race with that feature, but at least one means it's original... 13:24:45 But unlike felids, werewolves could actually have good AC 13:24:55 Not like, 3 13:24:58 IDK. Ruby__ is trying to make a werewolf race; apparently I was just saying going that way would be more reasonable than some finicky built-in transformation thing. And 'humanoid wolf' is just bearkin, which already failed. 13:29:43 seriallos: you mean webtiles lobby milestone field? it should work for all versions 13:29:59 Ok, I'm typing up all this, so we can have it all down in one place 13:30:17 it's only trunk on akrasiac 13:31:06 0.16 and 0.17 are blank 13:31:19 (people in games on those versions) 13:31:19 hmm, i'll look into it a bit later 13:31:37 i figured it would be in 0.17 since it's been in trunk for months 13:31:44 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:31:50 i use it to track a group of friends in a slack channel 13:31:57 thanks! 13:35:38 -!- Mindiell_ is now known as Mindiell 13:36:56 Ok habit, I typed up all the stuff we were talking about http://pastebin.com/BasT3tYr 13:38:21 I think what you listed there (since there are no UNIQUE mutations could probably be created just by adding the species to the right lists). 13:39:13 So how do I do that :o 13:39:18 Gradual AC boost that's "FUR" is slightly different than Gr, Dr and Na gradual boosts; but only from a flavour perspective; just cloning one of those with different flavour words would work. 13:42:50 Fur is also a mutation that exists, and there's already infrastructure for adding a racial mutation upon gaining a level. 13:43:54 I'm a newbie when it comes to coding so I have no idea how I would go about creating this race. 13:44:12 -!- vale__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:44:17 Fe already gets gradually-increasing fur AC anyway, what is the problem? 13:44:42 crawlcode 13:44:46 crawlcode is the problem 13:44:48 ha 13:44:53 too true 13:45:28 ugh I want to fix 9959 before the t 13:45:29 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:45:41 Ruby__: did you get the build going? 13:45:54 but short of rewriting beam.cc any solution will probably only make the code worse 13:45:56 I have no idea how... 13:46:06 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:46:09 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:46:51 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:49:54 I downloaded all the files for crawl, and Git SDK but now I have no idea what to do 13:51:09 amalloy: felid Fur AC is a standard mutation that they get all 3 levels of. racial AC on level is a mutation that's all "your body is tough" (only one level of the mutation; but the strength scales with XL). 13:51:12 -!- read has quit [Quit: bbl] 13:51:21 Ruby__: you need to start the shell (command line) that comes with Git SDK and go to crawl-ref/source 13:52:08 Ruby__: and then run make like INSTALL.txt instructs 13:53:15 Actually, I got visual studio to work 13:53:33 Idk what to do though 13:54:51 Ok 13:55:02 I went into the species data 13:55:09 If I take 13:55:10 say 13:55:12 troll 13:55:20 replace all instances of troll 13:55:23 with werewolf 13:55:29 I'm essentially making a werewolf 13:55:40 while being a troll 13:55:55 Yeah 13:55:56 well before you change anything, make sure you can build and run the game 13:57:28 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:38 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 13:57:39 Ruby__: Replacing trolls would work, but I'd recommend instead -duplicating- trolls -- everywhere you see a reference to trolls, add a similar reference to your new species 13:58:56 Ruby__: but if the reference is in a list of things (like in enum.h) make sure to add it after the last named species in the list. Otherwise your patch will create save incompatibilities for existing chars. 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02:16 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:02:22 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:03:59 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: "What happens if you die in reality?" "You die, stupid. That's why it's called reality."] 14:04:16 Why did La-- fail, superficially they seem like they have an interesting gimmick. 14:04:48 lava orc? (that's LO) 14:04:53 IIRC, it's because they're crazy broken 14:04:57 Medar: lacertillian 14:05:00 ??lacertillian 14:05:00 lacertillian ~ lacertilian[1/1]: Experimental race with perma-faith and no wrath for changing gods. Playable on CBRO! 14:05:05 oh 14:05:12 disgustingly op 14:05:16 -!- heliob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:05:30 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:06:09 what about god-specific gimmicks 14:06:43 looks like most servers only have trunk milestone file in config.py 14:07:06 How can I get a link to my 0.14 rc on cdo? 14:08:08 -!- speranza has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08:24 LO failed because tension is not a very good mechanic 14:08:31 Yea IIRC they are like the DE of Invo though, 3! Invo, perma-faith, no wrath, -2* Fighting -2 HP. [unsure.] 14:08:35 also they required special casing everywhere 14:08:50 less than Dj did 14:08:50 !rc Xenobreeder 0.14 14:08:51 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-0.14/casual.rc 14:08:55 those were just a mess 14:08:56 oh, wrong server 14:09:02 Lightli: that's not much of a recommendation :D 14:09:05 Ah, it works like this. Thank you. 14:09:12 @rc . 0.14 14:09:12 http://crawl.develz.org/configs/0.14/casual.rc 14:11:13 Habit. I 14:11:16 I 14:11:28 Why is my keyboard being stupid 14:11:30 Anyway 14:12:04 I am basically replacing Felids with the werewolf, just to see if I can even do that 14:14:15 Cast from HP, Spirit Shield seems interesting. 14:14:24 it's also horribly broken 14:14:29 Guess SP was an overly complicated to do that. 14:14:41 early you can't cast anything, late you can spam l9 conjurations nonstop 14:14:50 also hungerless berserk etc 14:14:51 also channeling 14:15:07 chunksub was still in back then 14:15:13